Guest guest Report post Posted June 1, 2009 - dan330033 Nisargadatta Monday, June 01, 2009 12:00 AM Re: Physical Death Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Saturday, May 30, 2009 5:00 AM > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/29/2009 5:04:10 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > inandor@ writes: > > > > Funny...why is it that I dont understand what anyone is saying? > > -geo- > > > > > > ***Cause we're all playing silly word games?? > > hold onto that thought. > > it will serve you well. > > .d. > > Not understanding or word games? > -g- any evaluative thought will do. ..d. So I should hold on to an evaluative thought and it will serve me well? -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Monday, June 01, 2009 12:00 AM > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > dan330033 > > Nisargadatta > > Saturday, May 30, 2009 5:00 AM > > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/29/2009 5:04:10 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > > inandor@ writes: > > > > > > Funny...why is it that I dont understand what anyone is saying? > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > ***Cause we're all playing silly word games?? > > > > hold onto that thought. > > > > it will serve you well. > > > > .d. > > > > Not understanding or word games? > > -g- > > any evaluative thought will do. > > .d. > > So I should hold on to an evaluative thought and it will serve me well? > -geo- as long as there is a belief in an evaluative self, holding on to evaluative thoughts will serve to keep the sense of its existence going ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Sunday, May 31, 2009 11:54 PM > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > dan330033 > > Nisargadatta > > Saturday, May 30, 2009 4:57 AM > > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/29/2009 4:23:47 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > > dan330033@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > You'll have to let us know how that turns out for ya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ****I can tell you now, it has worked wonderfully for me. At some > > > point, > > > > you might begin to realize that you are that which is aware, and so > > > > all > > > that > > > > can be 'done' is to pay attention and realize what has yet to be > > > noticed. > > > > The distraction of the neti-neti monster game will have to end, > > > > though. > > > > > > > > > if you can be distracted from it, it's not it. > > > > > > > > > ****By " it " you mean Truth? I'm talking about noticing illusion. > > > > if an illusion can be noticed, you've stepped out of it. > > > > so, it's not it. > > > > and it is it, you see. > > > > how are you going to step out of it, to notice illusion? > > > > what is your plan? > > > > how will you manage to be distracted from it? > > > > geo> Is not this totality of patterning clearly seen? If only a apart is > > seen then illusion is. > > how can it ever be something else, other than totality? > > where is someplace outside of totality, for an illusion to take place? > > -- d. -- > > Within the bounded and limited space of the mind. > -geo- so, you've discovered a place existing outside of totality? i guess we can write to Webster's dictionary that we now have a new definition for totality: Everything except geo's personal mental space ... -- d. -- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > dan330033 > > Nisargadatta > > Monday, June 01, 2009 12:00 AM > > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > dan330033 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Saturday, May 30, 2009 5:00 AM > > > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/29/2009 5:04:10 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > > > inandor@ writes: > > > > > > > > Funny...why is it that I dont understand what anyone is saying? > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > ***Cause we're all playing silly word games?? > > > > > > hold onto that thought. > > > > > > it will serve you well. > > > > > > .d. > > > > > > Not understanding or word games? > > > -g- > > > > any evaluative thought will do. > > > > .d. > > > > So I should hold on to an evaluative thought and it will serve me well? > > -geo- > > as long as there is a belief in an evaluative self, holding on to evaluative thoughts will serve to keep the sense of its existence going ... who or what is supposed to hold the belief.. which is served to keep this " sense " of existence? nonsense? " keep it going " ? to where? ..b b.b. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 1, 2009 - dan330033 Nisargadatta Monday, June 01, 2009 12:34 PM Re: Physical Death Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Monday, June 01, 2009 12:00 AM > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > dan330033 > > Nisargadatta > > Saturday, May 30, 2009 5:00 AM > > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/29/2009 5:04:10 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > > inandor@ writes: > > > > > > Funny...why is it that I dont understand what anyone is saying? > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > ***Cause we're all playing silly word games?? > > > > hold onto that thought. > > > > it will serve you well. > > > > .d. > > > > Not understanding or word games? > > -g- > > any evaluative thought will do. > > .d. > > So I should hold on to an evaluative thought and it will serve me well? > -geo- as long as there is a belief in an evaluative self, holding on to evaluative thoughts will serve to keep the sense of its existence going ... The ME going...yes. -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 1, 2009 - dan330033 Nisargadatta Monday, June 01, 2009 12:36 PM Re: Physical Death Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Sunday, May 31, 2009 11:54 PM > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > dan330033 > > Nisargadatta > > Saturday, May 30, 2009 4:57 AM > > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/29/2009 4:23:47 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > > dan330033@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > You'll have to let us know how that turns out for ya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ****I can tell you now, it has worked wonderfully for me. At some > > > point, > > > > you might begin to realize that you are that which is aware, and so > > > > all > > > that > > > > can be 'done' is to pay attention and realize what has yet to be > > > noticed. > > > > The distraction of the neti-neti monster game will have to end, > > > > though. > > > > > > > > > if you can be distracted from it, it's not it. > > > > > > > > > ****By " it " you mean Truth? I'm talking about noticing illusion. > > > > if an illusion can be noticed, you've stepped out of it. > > > > so, it's not it. > > > > and it is it, you see. > > > > how are you going to step out of it, to notice illusion? > > > > what is your plan? > > > > how will you manage to be distracted from it? > > > > geo> Is not this totality of patterning clearly seen? If only a apart is > > seen then illusion is. > > how can it ever be something else, other than totality? > > where is someplace outside of totality, for an illusion to take place? > > -- d. -- > > Within the bounded and limited space of the mind. > -geo- so, you've discovered a place existing outside of totality? i guess we can write to Webster's dictionary that we now have a new definition for totality: Everything except geo's personal mental space ... -- d. -- The fact remains: within the bounded and limited space of the mind separation is born. Nowhere else. -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Monday, June 01, 2009 12:36 PM > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > dan330033 > > Nisargadatta > > Sunday, May 31, 2009 11:54 PM > > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > dan330033 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Saturday, May 30, 2009 4:57 AM > > > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/29/2009 4:23:47 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > > > dan330033@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You'll have to let us know how that turns out for ya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ****I can tell you now, it has worked wonderfully for me. At some > > > > point, > > > > > you might begin to realize that you are that which is aware, and so > > > > > all > > > > that > > > > > can be 'done' is to pay attention and realize what has yet to be > > > > noticed. > > > > > The distraction of the neti-neti monster game will have to end, > > > > > though. > > > > > > > > > > > > if you can be distracted from it, it's not it. > > > > > > > > > > > > ****By " it " you mean Truth? I'm talking about noticing illusion. > > > > > > if an illusion can be noticed, you've stepped out of it. > > > > > > so, it's not it. > > > > > > and it is it, you see. > > > > > > how are you going to step out of it, to notice illusion? > > > > > > what is your plan? > > > > > > how will you manage to be distracted from it? > > > > > > geo> Is not this totality of patterning clearly seen? If only a apart is > > > seen then illusion is. > > > > how can it ever be something else, other than totality? > > > > where is someplace outside of totality, for an illusion to take place? > > > > -- d. -- > > > > Within the bounded and limited space of the mind. > > -geo- > > so, you've discovered a place existing outside of totality? > > i guess we can write to Webster's dictionary that we now have a new > definition for totality: Everything except geo's personal mental space ... > > -- d. -- > > The fact remains: within the bounded and limited space of the mind > separation is born. Nowhere else. > -geo- > That sure appears to be the case. :-0 toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > The ME going...yes. > -geo- lots of ways to attempt the me-attempt. including claiming that it doesn't exist, and I know this better than anyone else ;-) - d - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Monday, June 01, 2009 12:36 PM > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > dan330033 > > Nisargadatta > > Sunday, May 31, 2009 11:54 PM > > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > dan330033 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Saturday, May 30, 2009 4:57 AM > > > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/29/2009 4:23:47 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > > > dan330033@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You'll have to let us know how that turns out for ya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ****I can tell you now, it has worked wonderfully for me. At some > > > > point, > > > > > you might begin to realize that you are that which is aware, and so > > > > > all > > > > that > > > > > can be 'done' is to pay attention and realize what has yet to be > > > > noticed. > > > > > The distraction of the neti-neti monster game will have to end, > > > > > though. > > > > > > > > > > > > if you can be distracted from it, it's not it. > > > > > > > > > > > > ****By " it " you mean Truth? I'm talking about noticing illusion. > > > > > > if an illusion can be noticed, you've stepped out of it. > > > > > > so, it's not it. > > > > > > and it is it, you see. > > > > > > how are you going to step out of it, to notice illusion? > > > > > > what is your plan? > > > > > > how will you manage to be distracted from it? > > > > > > geo> Is not this totality of patterning clearly seen? If only a apart is > > > seen then illusion is. > > > > how can it ever be something else, other than totality? > > > > where is someplace outside of totality, for an illusion to take place? > > > > -- d. -- > > > > Within the bounded and limited space of the mind. > > -geo- > > so, you've discovered a place existing outside of totality? > > i guess we can write to Webster's dictionary that we now have a new > definition for totality: Everything except geo's personal mental space ... > > -- d. -- > > The fact remains: within the bounded and limited space of the mind > separation is born. Nowhere else. > -geo- Actual separation never was born anywhere. So there is no space apart from totality. The fiction of separation is just that: fiction. Understand this, and there's no actual separation anywhere. Totality alone. The actuality. No idea about totality involved. Nothing to get rid of, no private mental space to end. - D - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 1, 2009 - dan330033 Nisargadatta Monday, June 01, 2009 4:43 PM Re: Physical Death Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > The ME going...yes. > -geo- lots of ways to attempt the me-attempt. including claiming that it doesn't exist, and I know this better than anyone else ;-) - d - Yes. It is an ongoing cleaning of the field. Cleaning the rubish I am. :>/ -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Monday, June 01, 2009 4:43 PM > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > The ME going...yes. > > -geo- > > lots of ways to attempt the me-attempt. > > including claiming that it doesn't exist, and I know this better than anyone > else ;-) > > - d - > > Yes. It is an ongoing cleaning of the field. Cleaning the rubish I am. > :>/ > -geo- > Kinda like trying to rub your shadow out with a stick? toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 1, 2009 > > > > > > > > > > You'll have to let us know how that turns out for ya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ****I can tell you now, it has worked wonderfully for me. At some > > > > point, > > > > > you might begin to realize that you are that which is aware, and > > > > > so > > > > > all > > > > that > > > > > can be 'done' is to pay attention and realize what has yet to be > > > > noticed. > > > > > The distraction of the neti-neti monster game will have to end, > > > > > though. > > > > > > > > > > > > if you can be distracted from it, it's not it. > > > > > > > > > > > > ****By " it " you mean Truth? I'm talking about noticing illusion. > > > > > > if an illusion can be noticed, you've stepped out of it. > > > > > > so, it's not it. > > > > > > and it is it, you see. > > > > > > how are you going to step out of it, to notice illusion? > > > > > > what is your plan? > > > > > > how will you manage to be distracted from it? > > > > > > geo> Is not this totality of patterning clearly seen? If only a apart > > > is > > > seen then illusion is. > > > > how can it ever be something else, other than totality? > > > > where is someplace outside of totality, for an illusion to take place? > > > > -- d. -- > > > > Within the bounded and limited space of the mind. > > -geo- > > so, you've discovered a place existing outside of totality? > > i guess we can write to Webster's dictionary that we now have a new > definition for totality: Everything except geo's personal mental space ... > > -- d. -- > > The fact remains: within the bounded and limited space of the mind > separation is born. Nowhere else. > -geo- Actual separation never was born anywhere. So there is no space apart from totality. The fiction of separation is just that: fiction. geo> So there is the fiction of separation. Where is the home of this fiction? == Understand this, and there's no actual separation anywhere. Totality alone. The actuality. No idea about totality involved. Nothing to get rid of, no private mental space to end. - D - The fiction of separation is similar to aquisitiveness. That is why those who have will be given more, those who dont will be taken away. Why? Because to have is to not have, and to not have is to have. -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 1, 2009 > > The ME going...yes. > > -geo- > > lots of ways to attempt the me-attempt. > > including claiming that it doesn't exist, and I know this better than > anyone > else ;-) > > - d - > > Yes. It is an ongoing cleaning of the field. Cleaning the rubish I am. > :>/ > -geo- > Kinda like trying to rub your shadow out with a stick? toombaru There is only one way: turn the black light on. The ME hates it.... -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You'll have to let us know how that turns out for ya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ****I can tell you now, it has worked wonderfully for me. At some > > > > > point, > > > > > > you might begin to realize that you are that which is aware, and > > > > > > so > > > > > > all > > > > > that > > > > > > can be 'done' is to pay attention and realize what has yet to be > > > > > noticed. > > > > > > The distraction of the neti-neti monster game will have to end, > > > > > > though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you can be distracted from it, it's not it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ****By " it " you mean Truth? I'm talking about noticing illusion. > > > > > > > > if an illusion can be noticed, you've stepped out of it. > > > > > > > > so, it's not it. > > > > > > > > and it is it, you see. > > > > > > > > how are you going to step out of it, to notice illusion? > > > > > > > > what is your plan? > > > > > > > > how will you manage to be distracted from it? > > > > > > > > geo> Is not this totality of patterning clearly seen? If only a apart > > > > is > > > > seen then illusion is. > > > > > > how can it ever be something else, other than totality? > > > > > > where is someplace outside of totality, for an illusion to take place? > > > > > > -- d. -- > > > > > > Within the bounded and limited space of the mind. > > > -geo- > > > > so, you've discovered a place existing outside of totality? > > > > i guess we can write to Webster's dictionary that we now have a new > > definition for totality: Everything except geo's personal mental space ... > > > > -- d. -- > > > > The fact remains: within the bounded and limited space of the mind > > separation is born. Nowhere else. > > -geo- > > Actual separation never was born anywhere. > > So there is no space apart from totality. > > The fiction of separation is just that: fiction. > > geo> So there is the fiction of separation. Where is the home of this > fiction? > == > > Understand this, and there's no actual separation anywhere. > > Totality alone. > > The actuality. > > No idea about totality involved. > > Nothing to get rid of, no private mental space to end. > > - D - > > The fiction of separation is similar to aquisitiveness. > That is why those who have will be given more, those who dont will be taken > away. > Why? > Because to have is to not have, and to not have is to have. > -geo- > You're just not going to capture this in words. toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 1, 2009 > > > > > > You'll have to let us know how that turns out for ya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ****I can tell you now, it has worked wonderfully for me. At > > > > > > some > > > > > point, > > > > > > you might begin to realize that you are that which is aware, and > > > > > > so > > > > > > all > > > > > that > > > > > > can be 'done' is to pay attention and realize what has yet to be > > > > > noticed. > > > > > > The distraction of the neti-neti monster game will have to end, > > > > > > though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you can be distracted from it, it's not it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ****By " it " you mean Truth? I'm talking about noticing illusion. > > > > > > > > if an illusion can be noticed, you've stepped out of it. > > > > > > > > so, it's not it. > > > > > > > > and it is it, you see. > > > > > > > > how are you going to step out of it, to notice illusion? > > > > > > > > what is your plan? > > > > > > > > how will you manage to be distracted from it? > > > > > > > > geo> Is not this totality of patterning clearly seen? If only a > > > > apart > > > > is > > > > seen then illusion is. > > > > > > how can it ever be something else, other than totality? > > > > > > where is someplace outside of totality, for an illusion to take place? > > > > > > -- d. -- > > > > > > Within the bounded and limited space of the mind. > > > -geo- > > > > so, you've discovered a place existing outside of totality? > > > > i guess we can write to Webster's dictionary that we now have a new > > definition for totality: Everything except geo's personal mental space > > ... > > > > -- d. -- > > > > The fact remains: within the bounded and limited space of the mind > > separation is born. Nowhere else. > > -geo- > > Actual separation never was born anywhere. > > So there is no space apart from totality. > > The fiction of separation is just that: fiction. > > geo> So there is the fiction of separation. Where is the home of this > fiction? > == > > Understand this, and there's no actual separation anywhere. > > Totality alone. > > The actuality. > > No idea about totality involved. > > Nothing to get rid of, no private mental space to end. > > - D - > > The fiction of separation is similar to aquisitiveness. > That is why those who have will be given more, those who dont will be > taken > away. > Why? > Because to have is to not have, and to not have is to have. > -geo- > You're just not going to capture this in words. toombaru No way. You can take a ride on pullman-words till the border....then you must get down and dive head first into the concrete road to cross. -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > dan330033 > > Nisargadatta > > Monday, June 01, 2009 4:43 PM > > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > The ME going...yes. > > > -geo- > > > > lots of ways to attempt the me-attempt. > > > > including claiming that it doesn't exist, and I know this better than anyone > > else ;-) > > > > - d - > > > > Yes. It is an ongoing cleaning of the field. Cleaning the rubish I am. > > :>/ > > -geo- > Kinda like trying to rub your shadow out with a stick? > > > > toombaru like hiring a zombie in your dream, to police the landscape and make sure no dead people are walking around, contaminating your dream. - d - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 1, 2009 - dan330033 Nisargadatta Monday, June 01, 2009 5:28 PM Re: Physical Death Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > dan330033 > > Nisargadatta > > Monday, June 01, 2009 4:43 PM > > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > The ME going...yes. > > > -geo- > > > > lots of ways to attempt the me-attempt. > > > > including claiming that it doesn't exist, and I know this better than > > anyone > > else ;-) > > > > - d - > > > > Yes. It is an ongoing cleaning of the field. Cleaning the rubish I am. > > :>/ > > -geo- > Kinda like trying to rub your shadow out with a stick? > > > > toombaru like hiring a zombie in your dream, to police the landscape and make sure no dead people are walking around, contaminating your dream. - d - A question to you all: when you are with people, a party, at a bar, familly, work....are always able to be alone? -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Monday, June 01, 2009 5:28 PM > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > dan330033 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Monday, June 01, 2009 4:43 PM > > > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > The ME going...yes. > > > > -geo- > > > > > > lots of ways to attempt the me-attempt. > > > > > > including claiming that it doesn't exist, and I know this better than > > > anyone > > > else ;-) > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > Yes. It is an ongoing cleaning of the field. Cleaning the rubish I am. > > > :>/ > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kinda like trying to rub your shadow out with a stick? > > > > > > > > toombaru > > like hiring a zombie in your dream, to police the landscape and make sure no > dead people are walking around, contaminating your dream. > > - d - > > A question to you all: when you are with people, a party, at a bar, familly, > work....are always able to be alone? > -geo- > When the center ruptures...the mechanical dance no longer is taken personally and one moves along enthralled. What had been the geocentric center is still there......but it is no longer where one resides. toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 1, 2009 > > > > > > > > > > > The ME going...yes. > > > > -geo- > > > > > > lots of ways to attempt the me-attempt. > > > > > > including claiming that it doesn't exist, and I know this better than > > > anyone > > > else ;-) > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > Yes. It is an ongoing cleaning of the field. Cleaning the rubish I am. > > > :>/ > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kinda like trying to rub your shadow out with a stick? > > > > > > > > toombaru > > like hiring a zombie in your dream, to police the landscape and make sure > no > dead people are walking around, contaminating your dream. > > - d - > > A question to you all: when you are with people, a party, at a bar, > familly, > work....are always able to be alone? > -geo- > When the center ruptures...the mechanical dance no longer is taken personally and one moves along enthralled. What had been the geocentric center is still there......but it is no longer where one resides. toombaru I also know the words of that song by heart. But is it actual when facing people, always? -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You'll have to let us know how that turns out for ya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ****I can tell you now, it has worked wonderfully for me. At some > > > > > > point, > > > > > > > you might begin to realize that you are that which is aware, and > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > all > > > > > > that > > > > > > > can be 'done' is to pay attention and realize what has yet to be > > > > > > noticed. > > > > > > > The distraction of the neti-neti monster game will have to end, > > > > > > > though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you can be distracted from it, it's not it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ****By " it " you mean Truth? I'm talking about noticing illusion. > > > > > > > > > > if an illusion can be noticed, you've stepped out of it. > > > > > > > > > > so, it's not it. > > > > > > > > > > and it is it, you see. > > > > > > > > > > how are you going to step out of it, to notice illusion? > > > > > > > > > > what is your plan? > > > > > > > > > > how will you manage to be distracted from it? > > > > > > > > > > geo> Is not this totality of patterning clearly seen? If only a apart > > > > > is > > > > > seen then illusion is. > > > > > > > > how can it ever be something else, other than totality? > > > > > > > > where is someplace outside of totality, for an illusion to take place? > > > > > > > > -- d. -- > > > > > > > > Within the bounded and limited space of the mind. > > > > -geo- > > > > > > so, you've discovered a place existing outside of totality? > > > > > > i guess we can write to Webster's dictionary that we now have a new > > > definition for totality: Everything except geo's personal mental space ... > > > > > > -- d. -- > > > > > > The fact remains: within the bounded and limited space of the mind > > > separation is born. Nowhere else. > > > -geo- > > > > Actual separation never was born anywhere. > > > > So there is no space apart from totality. > > > > The fiction of separation is just that: fiction. > > > > geo> So there is the fiction of separation. Where is the home of this > > fiction? > > == > > > > Understand this, and there's no actual separation anywhere. > > > > Totality alone. > > > > The actuality. > > > > No idea about totality involved. > > > > Nothing to get rid of, no private mental space to end. > > > > - D - > > > > The fiction of separation is similar to aquisitiveness. > > That is why those who have will be given more, those who dont will be taken > > away. > > Why? > > Because to have is to not have, and to not have is to have. > > -geo- > > > > > > You're just not going to capture this in words. > > > > > > toombaru badaboom! " that's a great deal to make one word mean " .. Alice said in a thoughtful tone. " when i make a word do a lot of work like that " .. said Humpty Dumpty.. " i always pay it extra. " ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The ME going...yes. > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > lots of ways to attempt the me-attempt. > > > > > > > > including claiming that it doesn't exist, and I know this better than > > > > anyone > > > > else ;-) > > > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > > > Yes. It is an ongoing cleaning of the field. Cleaning the rubish I am. > > > > :>/ > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kinda like trying to rub your shadow out with a stick? > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > like hiring a zombie in your dream, to police the landscape and make sure > > no > > dead people are walking around, contaminating your dream. > > > > - d - > > > > A question to you all: when you are with people, a party, at a bar, > > familly, > > work....are always able to be alone? > > -geo- > > > > When the center ruptures...the mechanical dance no longer is taken > personally and one moves along enthralled. > > What had been the geocentric center is still there......but it is no longer > where one resides. > > toombaru > > I also know the words of that song by heart. But is it actual when facing > people, always? > -geo- despite the heading of this thread.. we are hear not discussing " physical death " . we are discussing something far more deadly. and there is no return. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The ME going...yes. > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > lots of ways to attempt the me-attempt. > > > > > > > > including claiming that it doesn't exist, and I know this better than > > > > anyone > > > > else ;-) > > > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > > > Yes. It is an ongoing cleaning of the field. Cleaning the rubish I am. > > > > :>/ > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kinda like trying to rub your shadow out with a stick? > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > like hiring a zombie in your dream, to police the landscape and make sure > > no > > dead people are walking around, contaminating your dream. > > > > - d - > > > > A question to you all: when you are with people, a party, at a bar, > > familly, > > work....are always able to be alone? > > -geo- > > > > When the center ruptures...the mechanical dance no longer is taken > personally and one moves along enthralled. > > What had been the geocentric center is still there......but it is no longer > where one resides. > > toombaru > > I also know the words of that song by heart. But is it actual when facing > people, always? > -geo- > Yup. Sometimes one gets caught in the current......but it is just experienced as current. toombaru toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2009 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The ME going...yes. > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > lots of ways to attempt the me-attempt. > > > > > > > > including claiming that it doesn't exist, and I know this better > > > > than > > > > anyone > > > > else ;-) > > > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > > > Yes. It is an ongoing cleaning of the field. Cleaning the rubish I > > > > am. > > > > :>/ > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kinda like trying to rub your shadow out with a stick? > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > like hiring a zombie in your dream, to police the landscape and make > > sure > > no > > dead people are walking around, contaminating your dream. > > > > - d - > > > > A question to you all: when you are with people, a party, at a bar, > > familly, > > work....are always able to be alone? > > -geo- > > > > When the center ruptures...the mechanical dance no longer is taken > personally and one moves along enthralled. > > What had been the geocentric center is still there......but it is no > longer > where one resides. > > toombaru > > I also know the words of that song by heart. But is it actual when facing > people, always? > -geo- > Yup. Sometimes one gets caught in the current......but it is just experienced as current. toombaru I know that you will never admit that eventualy you fall asleep with people around. Nonetheless what you write is difficult to grasp. To me either the center emerges and there is fragmentation or there is no center at all and no fragmentation. So I dont understand " sometimes one gets caught in the current " . The corent is always there...it is life..it is the human world....so - again - either cought or not. Either centered or not. -geo- toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2009 - geo Nisargadatta Monday, June 01, 2009 7:50 PM Re: Re: Physical Death > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The ME going...yes. > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > lots of ways to attempt the me-attempt. > > > > > > > > including claiming that it doesn't exist, and I know this better > > > > than > > > > anyone > > > > else ;-) > > > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > > > Yes. It is an ongoing cleaning of the field. Cleaning the rubish I > > > > am. > > > > :>/ > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kinda like trying to rub your shadow out with a stick? > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > like hiring a zombie in your dream, to police the landscape and make > > sure > > no > > dead people are walking around, contaminating your dream. > > > > - d - > > > > A question to you all: when you are with people, a party, at a bar, > > familly, > > work....are always able to be alone? > > -geo- > > > > When the center ruptures...the mechanical dance no longer is taken > personally and one moves along enthralled. > > What had been the geocentric center is still there......but it is no > longer > where one resides. > > toombaru > > I also know the words of that song by heart. But is it actual when facing > people, always? > -geo- > Yup. Sometimes one gets caught in the current......but it is just experienced as current. toombaru I know that you will never admit that eventualy you fall asleep with people around. Nonetheless what you write is difficult to grasp. To me either the center emerges and there is fragmentation or there is no center at all and no fragmentation. So I dont understand " sometimes one gets caught in the current " . The corent is always there...it is life..it is the human world....so - again - either cought or not. Either centered or not. -geo- I want to add: I am listening and have no reasons to not believe in what you are saying. toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The ME going...yes. > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > lots of ways to attempt the me-attempt. > > > > > > > > > > including claiming that it doesn't exist, and I know this better > > > > > than > > > > > anyone > > > > > else ;-) > > > > > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > > > > > Yes. It is an ongoing cleaning of the field. Cleaning the rubish I > > > > > am. > > > > > :>/ > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kinda like trying to rub your shadow out with a stick? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > like hiring a zombie in your dream, to police the landscape and make > > > sure > > > no > > > dead people are walking around, contaminating your dream. > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > A question to you all: when you are with people, a party, at a bar, > > > familly, > > > work....are always able to be alone? > > > -geo- > > > > > > > When the center ruptures...the mechanical dance no longer is taken > > personally and one moves along enthralled. > > > > What had been the geocentric center is still there......but it is no > > longer > > where one resides. > > > > toombaru > > > > I also know the words of that song by heart. But is it actual when facing > > people, always? > > -geo- > > > > Yup. > > Sometimes one gets caught in the current......but it is just experienced as > current. > > toombaru > > I know that you will never admit that eventualy you fall asleep with people > around. Nonetheless what you write is difficult to grasp. To me either the > center emerges and there is fragmentation or there is no center at all and > no fragmentation. So I dont understand " sometimes one gets caught in the > current " . The corent is always there...it is life..it is the human > world....so - again - either cought or not. Either centered or not. > -geo- > > toombaru what it is. there is nothing mystical. " experience' and " centering " keep dancing. it's great! no one's home. the baby sitter left. the most obvious of obvious. there is no mystery.. except the mystery of why it should seem mysterious. the mundane remains mundane. routine and friends and petty pace yet shimmer. birth death life are not other one to the other. but.. when in Rome... a Roman be. lo the staging floor. no choice for the choice-less. no hope for the hopeless. no love for the poisonous. riding White Lightning off the bluff. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
