Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > dan330033 > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Monday, June 01, 2009 9:17 PM > > > > > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The ME going...yes. > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lots of ways to attempt the me-attempt. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > including claiming that it doesn't exist, and I know this better > > > > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > > anyone > > > > > > > > > else ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. It is an ongoing cleaning of the field. Cleaning the rubish I > > > > > > > > > am. > > > > > > > > > :>/ > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kinda like trying to rub your shadow out with a stick? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like hiring a zombie in your dream, to police the landscape and make > > > > > > > sure > > > > > > > no > > > > > > > dead people are walking around, contaminating your dream. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A question to you all: when you are with people, a party, at a bar, > > > > > > > familly, > > > > > > > work....are always able to be alone? > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When the center ruptures...the mechanical dance no longer is taken > > > > > > personally and one moves along enthralled. > > > > > > > > > > > > What had been the geocentric center is still there......but it is no > > > > > > longer > > > > > > where one resides. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > I also know the words of that song by heart. But is it actual when facing > > > > > > people, always? > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > look into what is going on when a person faces another person. > > > > > > > > > > how is the self separated from the other? > > > > > > > > > > check it out. > > > > > > > > > > if you do, what is actual will shock you. > > > > > > > > > > what is actual isn't a part-time situation. > > > > > > > > > > it's not an insight had a person that comes and goes. > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > Do you actualy do this? > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > It is not a doing. > > > > > > > > It is not a possession of a human being. > > > > > > > > Thought wants to define this truth as if it could be a human doing. > > > > > > > > Thought wants to make it a property of a particular human brain/body/mind. > > > > > > > > Thought wants to make it graspable for the thought system, perceivable to it in a recognizable form. > > > > > > > > This is why this truth is such a shock to the thought-memory-orientation-perceptual system. > > > > > > > > Because that system is not there to understand it. > > > > > > > > And yet, understanding is. > > > > > > > > And that system cannot possess it. > > > > > > > > And yet, here it is. > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > if by " here " you mean danny.. > > > > > > nope! > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > here is not-danny not-bobby ... > > > > - d - > > > i'm .b b.b.. > > you're dan. > > cut the crap. > > .b b.b. you go back and forth. when it suits you, there's no " you " when it suits you, you're talking to a you. you like having it both ways. truth is, you don't get to have it either way. - d - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > With the dissolution of human body, consciousness also dissolves. > > What about awareness? > > -geo- > > or, as richard dreyfus would say, " what about bob? " > > if the body consciousness dissolves, there is awareness of the dissolving > > awareness/arisings awareness/dissolutions > > not-two > > beginningless endless > > and what of no-thing? > > no arising no dissolution no awareness no nothing? > > what of what can't be thunk or said? > > you won't read it on this list if you follow the posts for a hundred years everyone in that movie BUT richard dreyfus asked: what about bob. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2009 - roberibus111 Nisargadatta Tuesday, June 02, 2009 2:09 PM Re: Physical Death Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > You say there is no self, and then you say that there are people who > > have > > selves lurking. > > > > Nonsense. > > > > It has nothing to do with being spiritual. > > > > There never has been a self possessed by any person anywhere at any > > time. > > > > There is no special person who knows this truth, or has this truth. > > > > Except b. b. king. > > > > Laughter -- > > > > - D - > > > > Is there awareness of the totality of consciousness, or totality of > > human > > world, as one movement? > > -geo- > > Awareness is undivided. > > Awareness is the totality, it is not aware of the totality. > > Awareness is the undivided energy, it is not aware of the one movement, > awareness is the nondivided " movement. " > > This " movement " is stillness. > > It is not particular to the " human world " or " human consciousness. " > > Awarenes is nondivided with respect to all that is, inclusive of, but not > limited to the human being. > > -- D -- awareness is NOT energy. undivided or otherwise. energy is merely a different phase state of matter. it is not a " field " . a field is dependent upon a wave/particle duality. awareness is not awareness. any talk of division or the non divided is error. non divided has meaning ONLY in relationship to the divided. foolishness. ..b b.b. No bbb. When he says " energy " he is not referring to what you learn in high school. After all he must use a name to refer to it. Also " field " is not related to our three dimensions. -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > You say there is no self, and then you say that there are people who have > > > > selves lurking. > > > > > > > > Nonsense. > > > > > > > > It has nothing to do with being spiritual. > > > > > > > > There never has been a self possessed by any person anywhere at any time. > > > > > > > > There is no special person who knows this truth, or has this truth. > > > > > > > > Except b. b. king. > > > > > > > > Laughter -- > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > Is there awareness of the totality of consciousness, or totality of human > > > > world, as one movement? > > > > -geo- > > > > > > Awareness is undivided. > > > > > > Awareness is the totality, it is not aware of the totality. > > > > > > Awareness is the undivided energy, it is not aware of the one movement, awareness is the nondivided " movement. " > > > > > > This " movement " is stillness. > > > > > > It is not particular to the " human world " or " human consciousness. " > > > > > > Awarenes is nondivided with respect to all that is, inclusive of, but not limited to the human being. > > > > > > -- D -- > > > > > > awareness is NOT energy. > > > > undivided or otherwise. > > > > energy is merely a different phase state of matter. > > > > it is not a " field " . > > > > a field is dependent upon a wave/particle duality. > > > > awareness is not awareness. > > > > any talk of division or the non divided is error. > > > > non divided has meaning ONLY in relationship to the divided. > > > > foolishness. > > > > .b b.b. > > awareness/matter not-two bobby > > > - d - oh bullshit danny boy. matter is not awareness. energy is not awareness. spacetime is not awareness. awareness is not awareness not-two danny not too bobby. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The ME going...yes. > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lots of ways to attempt the me-attempt. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > including claiming that it doesn't exist, and I know this better than > > > > > > > > > anyone > > > > > > > > > else ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. It is an ongoing cleaning of the field. Cleaning the rubish I am. > > > > > > > > > :>/ > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kinda like trying to rub your shadow out with a stick? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like hiring a zombie in your dream, to police the landscape and make sure > > > > > > > no > > > > > > > dead people are walking around, contaminating your dream. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A question to you all: when you are with people, a party, at a bar, > > > > > > > familly, > > > > > > > work....are always able to be alone? > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > No " other " has ever appeared independently anywhere. > > > > > > > > > > > > The " other " appears only in relationship to the fictional self. > > > > > > > > > > > > You can't have one without the other. > > > > > > > > > > > > See how this works? > > > > > > > > > > > > See how alone it is? > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > So...are " you " completely alone always, in all situations? > > > > > > Never experience conflict one time or another? > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > There is one alone. > > > > > > > > > > This one is alone in all situations, unrecognized. > > > > > > > > > > This one has never experienced conflict. > > > > > > > > > > Human beings don't experience conflict, they are a conflict. > > > > > > > > > > Yet, the human being doesn't interfere at all with this one. > > > > > > > > > > The conflict that is the human being is resolved. > > > > > > > > > > It is not resolved for or by a human being. > > > > > > > > > > -- D -- > > > > > > > > > > > > if the alone is solo.. > > > > > > > > it hardly fits to call it alone. > > > > > > > > there are no " others " leaving the alone....alone. > > > > > > > > you're just conflicted in thought. > > > > > > > > that's human. > > > > > > > > you'll get over it. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > there is no future time in which to get over something. > > > > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > why then didn't you answer before i said anything? > > > > what horse manure! > > > > .b b.b. > > keep repeating how everything is manure. > > you seem to be getting something out of it. > > no one " else " is listening. > > - d - not everything dan. just your bullshit. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > look into what is going on when a person faces another person. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how is the self separated from the other? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > check it out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you do, what is actual will shock you. > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no 'you' ;-). That's the title of the 'self-image'. No such entity ever existed, anywhere. Thus, no 'you' will be shocked. > > > > > > > > > > So, you keep repeating that there is no you, and you keep saying this to no one. > > > > > > > > > > Whatever works for you. > > > > > > > > > > Understanding is a shock. > > > > > > > > > > It doesn't fit the expected mode of perception based on memory. > > > > > > > > > > Which is what the " you " the " me " is. > > > > > > > > > > Avoidance of the shock of what is, is what keeps the repetition of thought going, the recurrent return to the reservoir of memories. > > > > > > > > > > Including the repetition on this list that there is no you. > > > > > > > > > > Just a repetition of a thought. > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > just keep repeating that to the nonexistent self. > > > > > > > > what a fucking shocker huh? > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > the nonexistent self. > > > > > > you are not speaking to anyone, bob. > > > > > > - d. - > > > > > > oh bullshit. > > > > just keep repeating that hogwash. > > > > it seems to thrill you. > > > > .b b.b. > > keep repeating " bullshit " it seems to thrill you. > > - d - just keep repeating me that seems to be all you can do. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > that's your story. > > > > and you are avoiding admitting it. > > > > not that it. > > > > .b b.b. > > either you're addressing yourself, or a " you " that you say doesn't exist. > > if selves don't exist, then perhaps you're the one who is benefitting from your talk. there is no benefit. there is no merit. you go straight to hell for imagining either. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > dan330033 > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Monday, June 01, 2009 9:17 PM > > > > > > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The ME going...yes. > > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lots of ways to attempt the me-attempt. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > including claiming that it doesn't exist, and I know this better > > > > > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > > > anyone > > > > > > > > > > else ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. It is an ongoing cleaning of the field. Cleaning the rubish I > > > > > > > > > > am. > > > > > > > > > > :>/ > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kinda like trying to rub your shadow out with a stick? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like hiring a zombie in your dream, to police the landscape and make > > > > > > > > sure > > > > > > > > no > > > > > > > > dead people are walking around, contaminating your dream. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A question to you all: when you are with people, a party, at a bar, > > > > > > > > familly, > > > > > > > > work....are always able to be alone? > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When the center ruptures...the mechanical dance no longer is taken > > > > > > > personally and one moves along enthralled. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What had been the geocentric center is still there......but it is no > > > > > > > longer > > > > > > > where one resides. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also know the words of that song by heart. But is it actual when facing > > > > > > > people, always? > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > look into what is going on when a person faces another person. > > > > > > > > > > > > how is the self separated from the other? > > > > > > > > > > > > check it out. > > > > > > > > > > > > if you do, what is actual will shock you. > > > > > > > > > > > > what is actual isn't a part-time situation. > > > > > > > > > > > > it's not an insight had a person that comes and goes. > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you actualy do this? > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > It is not a doing. > > > > > > > > > > It is not a possession of a human being. > > > > > > > > > > Thought wants to define this truth as if it could be a human doing. > > > > > > > > > > Thought wants to make it a property of a particular human brain/body/mind. > > > > > > > > > > Thought wants to make it graspable for the thought system, perceivable to it in a recognizable form. > > > > > > > > > > This is why this truth is such a shock to the thought-memory-orientation-perceptual system. > > > > > > > > > > Because that system is not there to understand it. > > > > > > > > > > And yet, understanding is. > > > > > > > > > > And that system cannot possess it. > > > > > > > > > > And yet, here it is. > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > if by " here " you mean danny.. > > > > > > > > nope! > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > here is not-danny not-bobby ... > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > i'm .b b.b.. > > > > you're dan. > > > > cut the crap. > > > > .b b.b. > > you go back and forth. > > when it suits you, there's no " you " > > when it suits you, you're talking to a you. > > you like having it both ways. > > truth is, you don't get to have it either way. > > - d - both ways? not-two danny. you just said so. you don't get to have anything. no " you " does. for one simple reason. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2009 - dan330033 Nisargadatta Tuesday, June 02, 2009 2:19 PM Re: Physical Death Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > With the dissolution of human body, consciousness also dissolves. > What about awareness? > -geo- or, as richard dreyfus would say, " what about bob? " if the body consciousness dissolves, there is awareness of the dissolving awareness/arisings awareness/dissolutions not-two beginningless endless and what of no-thing? no arising no dissolution no awareness no nothing? what of what can't be thunk or said? you won't read it on this list if you follow the posts for a hundred years geo> I have this vague feeling that you think you are lecturing... I am not that far away... -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > dan330033 > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Monday, June 01, 2009 9:15 PM > > > > > > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > dan330033 > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > Monday, June 01, 2009 5:28 PM > > > > > > > > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > dan330033 > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > > Monday, June 01, 2009 4:43 PM > > > > > > > > > > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The ME going...yes. > > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lots of ways to attempt the me-attempt. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > including claiming that it doesn't exist, and I know this better > > > > > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > > > anyone > > > > > > > > > > else ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. It is an ongoing cleaning of the field. Cleaning the rubish I > > > > > > > > > > am. > > > > > > > > > > :>/ > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kinda like trying to rub your shadow out with a stick? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like hiring a zombie in your dream, to police the landscape and make > > > > > > > > sure no > > > > > > > > dead people are walking around, contaminating your dream. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A question to you all: when you are with people, a party, at a bar, > > > > > > > > familly, > > > > > > > > work....are always able to be alone? > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When the center ruptures...the mechanical dance no longer is taken > > > > > > > personally and one moves along enthralled. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What had been the geocentric center is still there......but it is no > > > > > > > longer where one resides. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > the center was never there for one second. > > > > > > > > > > > > the rupturing is of the belief that it was ever there. > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > Is the belief always not there when you are with people, a party, at a bar, > > > > > > familly, > > > > > > work....always able to be alone? > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what is it BUT a " center " ? > > > > > > > > > > the rupturing IS centering for christ's sake. > > > > > > > > > > don't listen to that self serving crap. > > > > > > > > > > no one who says they're alone is alone. > > > > > > > > > > there is a " self " lurking if nothing else. > > > > > > > > > > some just want to sound profound..holy.. " aware " . > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > You say there is no self, and then you say that there are people who have selves lurking. > > > > > > > > Nonsense. > > > > > > > > It has nothing to do with being spiritual. > > > > > > > > There never has been a self possessed by any person anywhere at any time. > > > > > > > > There is no special person who knows this truth, or has this truth. > > > > > > > > Except b. b. king. > > > > > > > > Laughter -- > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > bullshit. > > > > > > b.b. is the King of the Blues. > > > > > > all that pissing and moaning says he knows nothing. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > b.b. knows lucille. > > > > that is all he needs to know. > > > > the nothing is in the music. > > > > nothing more needs to be known. > > > > - d - > > > dan.. > > i know Riley King. > > he is a long time friend of mine. > > i've known him since the mid 1960s. > > i as he am in the music industry. > > believe me.. > > he'd be laughing his ass off at your crap. > > .b b.b. but he'll be writing a song about your crap ... lol. - d - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > With the dissolution of human body, consciousness also dissolves. > > > What about awareness? > > > -geo- > > > > or, as richard dreyfus would say, " what about bob? " > > > > if the body consciousness dissolves, there is awareness of the dissolving > > > > awareness/arisings awareness/dissolutions > > > > not-two > > > > beginningless endless > > > > and what of no-thing? > > > > no arising no dissolution no awareness no nothing? > > > > what of what can't be thunk or said? > > > > you won't read it on this list if you follow the posts for a hundred years > > > everyone in that movie BUT richard dreyfus asked: > > what about bob. > > .b b.b. exactly good point. finally, a point worth reading has been made on this list. who woulda thunk? - d - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Tuesday, June 02, 2009 2:19 PM > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > With the dissolution of human body, consciousness also dissolves. > > What about awareness? > > -geo- > > or, as richard dreyfus would say, " what about bob? " > > if the body consciousness dissolves, there is awareness of the dissolving > > awareness/arisings awareness/dissolutions > > not-two > > beginningless endless > > and what of no-thing? > > no arising no dissolution no awareness no nothing? > > what of what can't be thunk or said? > > you won't read it on this list if you follow the posts for a hundred years > > geo> I have this vague feeling that you think you are lecturing... > I am not that far away... > -geo- FINALLY! that's what is clearly the case. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > not everything dan. > > just your bullshit. > > .b b.b. you can't stop saying bullshit over and over. and you insist there is no " you " you think it is god saying " bullshit " through bobby lol. - d - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > that's your story. > > > > > > and you are avoiding admitting it. > > > > > > not that it. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > either you're addressing yourself, or a " you " that you say doesn't exist. > > > > if selves don't exist, then perhaps you're the one who is benefitting from your talk. > > > there is no benefit. > > there is no merit. > > you go straight to hell for imagining either. > > .b b.b. your imagined hell is the only one you can go to. - d - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > dan330033 > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > Monday, June 01, 2009 9:15 PM > > > > > > > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > dan330033 > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > Monday, June 01, 2009 5:28 PM > > > > > > > > > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > dan330033 > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > > > Monday, June 01, 2009 4:43 PM > > > > > > > > > > > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The ME going...yes. > > > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lots of ways to attempt the me-attempt. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > including claiming that it doesn't exist, and I know this better > > > > > > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > > > > anyone > > > > > > > > > > > else ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. It is an ongoing cleaning of the field. Cleaning the rubish I > > > > > > > > > > > am. > > > > > > > > > > > :>/ > > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kinda like trying to rub your shadow out with a stick? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like hiring a zombie in your dream, to police the landscape and make > > > > > > > > > sure no > > > > > > > > > dead people are walking around, contaminating your dream. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A question to you all: when you are with people, a party, at a bar, > > > > > > > > > familly, > > > > > > > > > work....are always able to be alone? > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When the center ruptures...the mechanical dance no longer is taken > > > > > > > > personally and one moves along enthralled. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What had been the geocentric center is still there......but it is no > > > > > > > > longer where one resides. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the center was never there for one second. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the rupturing is of the belief that it was ever there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is the belief always not there when you are with people, a party, at a bar, > > > > > > > familly, > > > > > > > work....always able to be alone? > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what is it BUT a " center " ? > > > > > > > > > > > > the rupturing IS centering for christ's sake. > > > > > > > > > > > > don't listen to that self serving crap. > > > > > > > > > > > > no one who says they're alone is alone. > > > > > > > > > > > > there is a " self " lurking if nothing else. > > > > > > > > > > > > some just want to sound profound..holy.. " aware " . > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You say there is no self, and then you say that there are people who have selves lurking. > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense. > > > > > > > > > > It has nothing to do with being spiritual. > > > > > > > > > > There never has been a self possessed by any person anywhere at any time. > > > > > > > > > > There is no special person who knows this truth, or has this truth. > > > > > > > > > > Except b. b. king. > > > > > > > > > > Laughter -- > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > bullshit. > > > > > > > > b.b. is the King of the Blues. > > > > > > > > all that pissing and moaning says he knows nothing. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > b.b. knows lucille. > > > > > > that is all he needs to know. > > > > > > the nothing is in the music. > > > > > > nothing more needs to be known. > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > dan.. > > > > i know Riley King. > > > > he is a long time friend of mine. > > > > i've known him since the mid 1960s. > > > > i as he am in the music industry. > > > > believe me.. > > > > he'd be laughing his ass off at your crap. > > > > .b b.b. > > but he'll be writing a song about your crap ... > > lol. > > - d - b.b. doesn't write a lot of what he records. i've produced enough of it to know. you don't know what your saying. not about b.b. and not about most of what you say. put on a CD and relax. ..b b.b. 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Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > No bbb. When he says " energy " he is not referring to what you learn in high > school. After all he must use a name to refer to it. > Also " field " is not related to our three dimensions. > -geo- true. yet it includes the energy learned about in high school and includes our four dimensions (time being one of them) - d - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2009 - roberibus111 Nisargadatta Tuesday, June 02, 2009 2:45 PM Re: Physical Death Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Tuesday, June 02, 2009 2:09 PM > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > You say there is no self, and then you say that there are people who > > > have > > > selves lurking. > > > > > > Nonsense. > > > > > > It has nothing to do with being spiritual. > > > > > > There never has been a self possessed by any person anywhere at any > > > time. > > > > > > There is no special person who knows this truth, or has this truth. > > > > > > Except b. b. king. > > > > > > Laughter -- > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > Is there awareness of the totality of consciousness, or totality of > > > human > > > world, as one movement? > > > -geo- > > > > Awareness is undivided. > > > > Awareness is the totality, it is not aware of the totality. > > > > Awareness is the undivided energy, it is not aware of the one movement, > > awareness is the nondivided " movement. " > > > > This " movement " is stillness. > > > > It is not particular to the " human world " or " human consciousness. " > > > > Awarenes is nondivided with respect to all that is, inclusive of, but > > not > > limited to the human being. > > > > -- D -- > > awareness is NOT energy. > > undivided or otherwise. > > energy is merely a different phase state of matter. > > it is not a " field " . > > a field is dependent upon a wave/particle duality. > > awareness is not awareness. > > any talk of division or the non divided is error. > > non divided has meaning ONLY in relationship to the divided. > > foolishness. > > .b b.b. > > No bbb. When he says " energy " he is not referring to what you learn in > high > school. After all he must use a name to refer to it. > Also " field " is not related to our three dimensions. > -geo- uh geo.. high school??? c'mon! there is no need of a name. names designate " somethings " . and there are no somethings. and the field relates to S-Matrix strings in M theory. 11 or 26 dimensions. the math works for both. we're not playing with a nursery rhyme. it's void. non dimensional..non energy...non matter/space/time.. it's not in the domain of ponderablity. ..b b.b. " non dimensional..non energy...non matter/space/time..it's not in the domain of ponderablity " Well... youjust invented a another new name to it - just a bit longer. The same. -geo- ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > you go back and forth. > > > > when it suits you, there's no " you " > > > > when it suits you, you're talking to a you. > > > > you like having it both ways. > > > > truth is, you don't get to have it either way. > > > > - d - > > > both ways? > > not-two danny. thanks for validating my point, bobby. > you just said so. > > you don't get to have anything. > > no " you " does. > > for one simple reason. that's right bobby. - d - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Tuesday, June 02, 2009 2:19 PM > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > With the dissolution of human body, consciousness also dissolves. > > What about awareness? > > -geo- > > or, as richard dreyfus would say, " what about bob? " > > if the body consciousness dissolves, there is awareness of the dissolving > > awareness/arisings awareness/dissolutions > > not-two > > beginningless endless > > and what of no-thing? > > no arising no dissolution no awareness no nothing? > > what of what can't be thunk or said? > > you won't read it on this list if you follow the posts for a hundred years > > geo> I have this vague feeling that you think you are lecturing... > I am not that far away... > -geo- if you can be one inch away, you are a million miles away if you are not one inch away, there can be no lecturing i am not lecturing - if i were, this list would be the wrong place for me to post ... lol. - d - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2009 - dan330033 Nisargadatta Tuesday, June 02, 2009 2:45 PM Re: Physical Death Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > With the dissolution of human body, consciousness also dissolves. > > > What about awareness? > > > -geo- > > > > or, as richard dreyfus would say, " what about bob? " > > > > if the body consciousness dissolves, there is awareness of the > > dissolving > > > > awareness/arisings awareness/dissolutions > > > > not-two > > > > beginningless endless > > > > and what of no-thing? > > > > no arising no dissolution no awareness no nothing? > > > > what of what can't be thunk or said? > > > > you won't read it on this list if you follow the posts for a hundred > > years > > > everyone in that movie BUT richard dreyfus asked: > > what about bob. > > .b b.b. exactly good point. finally, a point worth reading has been made on this list. who woulda thunk? - d - An you say there is no center in whatever you do in any situaton... in your life. Is this coming from the ground, or what? -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > You say there is no self, and then you say that there are people who have > > > > > > selves lurking. > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense. > > > > > > > > > > > > It has nothing to do with being spiritual. > > > > > > > > > > > > There never has been a self possessed by any person anywhere at any time. > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no special person who knows this truth, or has this truth. > > > > > > > > > > > > Except b. b. king. > > > > > > > > > > > > Laughter -- > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there awareness of the totality of consciousness, or totality of human > > > > > > world, as one movement? > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > Awareness is undivided. > > > > > > > > > > Awareness is the totality, it is not aware of the totality. > > > > > > > > > > Awareness is the undivided energy, it is not aware of the one movement, awareness is the nondivided " movement. " > > > > > > > > > > This " movement " is stillness. > > > > > > > > > > It is not particular to the " human world " or " human consciousness. " > > > > > > > > > > Awarenes is nondivided with respect to all that is, inclusive of, but not limited to the human being. > > > > > > > > > > -- D -- > > > > > > > > > > > > awareness is NOT energy. > > > > > > > > undivided or otherwise. > > > > > > > > energy is merely a different phase state of matter. > > > > > > > > it is not a " field " . > > > > > > > > a field is dependent upon a wave/particle duality. > > > > > > > > awareness is not awareness. > > > > > > > > any talk of division or the non divided is error. > > > > > > > > non divided has meaning ONLY in relationship to the divided. > > > > > > > > foolishness. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > awareness/matter not-two bobby > > > > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > oh bullshit danny boy. > > > > matter is not awareness. > > > > energy is not awareness. > > > > spacetime is not awareness. > > > > awareness is not awareness not-two danny > > > > not too bobby. > > > > .b b.b. > > awareness and what it is aware of are not-two, bobby who doesn't exist. > > - d - we are not in touch with the same same. you keep yours. it won't do you any good. for a reason. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > look into what is going on when a person faces another person. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how is the self separated from the other? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > check it out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you do, what is actual will shock you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no 'you' ;-). That's the title of the 'self-image'. No such entity ever existed, anywhere. Thus, no 'you' will be shocked. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, you keep repeating that there is no you, and you keep saying this to no one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whatever works for you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Understanding is a shock. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It doesn't fit the expected mode of perception based on memory. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which is what the " you " the " me " is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Avoidance of the shock of what is, is what keeps the repetition of thought going, the recurrent return to the reservoir of memories. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Including the repetition on this list that there is no you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just a repetition of a thought. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just keep repeating that to the nonexistent self. > > > > > > > > > > > > what a fucking shocker huh? > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > the nonexistent self. > > > > > > > > > > you are not speaking to anyone, bob. > > > > > > > > > > - d. - > > > > > > > > > > > > oh bullshit. > > > > > > > > just keep repeating that hogwash. > > > > > > > > it seems to thrill you. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > keep repeating " bullshit " it seems to thrill you. > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > just keep repeating me that seems to be all you can do. > > > > .b b.b. > > exactly. > > thanks for validating my point. > > - d - that's pointless. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > No bbb. When he says " energy " he is not referring to what you learn in high > > school. After all he must use a name to refer to it. > > Also " field " is not related to our three dimensions. > > -geo- > > true. yet it includes the energy learned about in high school > > and includes our four dimensions (time being one of them) > > - d - wrong. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2009 - dan330033 Nisargadatta Tuesday, June 02, 2009 2:47 PM Re: Physical Death Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > look into what is going on when a person faces another > > > > > > > > person. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how is the self separated from the other? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > check it out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you do, what is actual will shock you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no 'you' ;-). That's the title of the 'self-image'. > > > > > > > No such entity ever existed, anywhere. Thus, no 'you' will be > > > > > > > shocked. > > > > > > > > > > > > So, you keep repeating that there is no you, and you keep saying > > > > > > this to no one. > > > > > > > > > > > > Whatever works for you. > > > > > > > > > > > > Understanding is a shock. > > > > > > > > > > > > It doesn't fit the expected mode of perception based on memory. > > > > > > > > > > > > Which is what the " you " the " me " is. > > > > > > > > > > > > Avoidance of the shock of what is, is what keeps the repetition > > > > > > of thought going, the recurrent return to the reservoir of > > > > > > memories. > > > > > > > > > > > > Including the repetition on this list that there is no you. > > > > > > > > > > > > Just a repetition of a thought. > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just keep repeating that to the nonexistent self. > > > > > > > > > > what a fucking shocker huh? > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > the nonexistent self. > > > > > > > > you are not speaking to anyone, bob. > > > > > > > > - d. - > > > > > > > > > oh bullshit. > > > > > > just keep repeating that hogwash. > > > > > > it seems to thrill you. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > keep repeating " bullshit " it seems to thrill you. > > > > - d - > > > just keep repeating me that seems to be all you can do. > > .b b.b. exactly. thanks for validating my point. - d - I am the witness of two centerless centers conversing - straight up from the ground. I think its god himself in a monologue. LOL -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Tuesday, June 02, 2009 2:45 PM > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > roberibus111 > > Nisargadatta > > Tuesday, June 02, 2009 2:09 PM > > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > You say there is no self, and then you say that there are people who > > > > have > > > > selves lurking. > > > > > > > > Nonsense. > > > > > > > > It has nothing to do with being spiritual. > > > > > > > > There never has been a self possessed by any person anywhere at any > > > > time. > > > > > > > > There is no special person who knows this truth, or has this truth. > > > > > > > > Except b. b. king. > > > > > > > > Laughter -- > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > Is there awareness of the totality of consciousness, or totality of > > > > human > > > > world, as one movement? > > > > -geo- > > > > > > Awareness is undivided. > > > > > > Awareness is the totality, it is not aware of the totality. > > > > > > Awareness is the undivided energy, it is not aware of the one movement, > > > awareness is the nondivided " movement. " > > > > > > This " movement " is stillness. > > > > > > It is not particular to the " human world " or " human consciousness. " > > > > > > Awarenes is nondivided with respect to all that is, inclusive of, but > > > not > > > limited to the human being. > > > > > > -- D -- > > > > awareness is NOT energy. > > > > undivided or otherwise. > > > > energy is merely a different phase state of matter. > > > > it is not a " field " . > > > > a field is dependent upon a wave/particle duality. > > > > awareness is not awareness. > > > > any talk of division or the non divided is error. > > > > non divided has meaning ONLY in relationship to the divided. > > > > foolishness. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > No bbb. When he says " energy " he is not referring to what you learn in > > high > > school. After all he must use a name to refer to it. > > Also " field " is not related to our three dimensions. > > -geo- > > uh geo.. > > high school??? > > c'mon! > > there is no need of a name. > > names designate " somethings " . > > and there are no somethings. > > and the field relates to S-Matrix strings in M theory. > > 11 or 26 dimensions. > > the math works for both. > > we're not playing with a nursery rhyme. > > it's void. > > non dimensional..non energy...non matter/space/time.. > > it's not in the domain of ponderablity. > > .b b.b. > > " non dimensional..non energy...non matter/space/time..it's not in the domain > of ponderablity " > Well... youjust invented a another new name to it - just a bit longer. The > same. > -geo- > > > .b b.b. sure..whatever gets you through your night. ..b b.b. gotta go. be back in a few non existing hours. be patient and try to stay awake kids. i will return with the answers you need. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
