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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > > here, use this baby wipe.

> > >

> > > Brad Pitt likes them.

> >

> > If Brad ever has a child, he should name him/her " arm " . That'd be cool :-D.

>

> Peach would be nice, for a girl.

>

> Burial would work for a guy.

 

That's be the pitts.

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

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> >

> > she's fat but oh what a voice.

> >

> > she's not just singing..

> >

> > she's Red Winging.

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> Here, have a beer with those wings.

>

> - d -

 

Glug, glug...

 

..t t.t.

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > > here, use this baby wipe.

> > >

> > > Brad Pitt likes them.

> >

> > If Brad ever has a child, he should name him/her " arm " . That'd be cool :-D.

>

> " Peach " for a girl.

>

> " Burial " for a boy.

 

" Delay " for a ... eh? :-p

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > oh yeah and oh yea!

> >

> > i also smell the coffee.

>

> Wake up and smell the Downy.

 

 

that's a downer.

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

>

> >

> > she's fat but oh what a voice.

> >

> > she's not just singing..

> >

> > she's Red Winging.

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> Here, have a beer with those wings.

>

> - d -

 

 

:-)

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > > here, use this baby wipe.

> > >

> > > Brad Pitt likes them.

> >

> > If Brad ever has a child, he should name him/her " arm " . That'd be cool :-D.

>

> " Peach " for a girl.

>

> " Burial " for a boy.

 

 

 

 

if his last name was Pectoris..

 

Angina would make a swell girl's name.

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > " non dimensional..non energy...non matter/space/time..it's not in

the domain

> > > > > > > of ponderablity "

> > > > > > > Well... youjust invented a another new name to it - just a bit

longer. The

> > > > > > > same.

> > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > >

> > > > > > funny. true.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > what it?

> > > > >

> > > > > .b b.b.

> > > >

> > > > you know, " it "

> > > >

> > > > the it that went away, so the universe could be.

> > > >

> > > > it went away, so you could hang around

> > > >

> > > > and you followed me every night

> > >

> > >

> > > it had to go away for the universe to be?

> > >

> > > be what?

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> >

> > pretend.

> >

> > - d -

>

>

> pretend what?

>

> .b b.b.

 

pretend to be observed.

 

- d -

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > " non dimensional..non energy...non matter/space/time..it's not

in the domain

> > > > > > > > of ponderablity "

> > > > > > > > Well... youjust invented a another new name to it - just a bit

longer. The

> > > > > > > > same.

> > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > funny. true.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > what it?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > >

> > > > > you know, " it "

> > > > >

> > > > > the it that went away, so the universe could be.

> > > > >

> > > > > it went away, so you could hang around

> > > > >

> > > > > and you followed me every night

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > it had to go away for the universe to be?

> > > >

> > > > be what?

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > pretend.

> > >

> > > - d -

> >

> >

> > pretend what?

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> pretend to be observed.

>

> - d -

 

 

what's to pretend to observe?

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

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> what's to pretend to observe?

>

> .b b.b.

 

Nothing. The pretense just arises (or not), as a result of mistaken ideas.

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > " non dimensional..non energy...non matter/space/time..it's not

in the domain

> > > > > > > > > of ponderablity "

> > > > > > > > > Well... youjust invented a another new name to it - just a bit

longer. The

> > > > > > > > > same.

> > > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > funny. true.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > what it?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > you know, " it "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > the it that went away, so the universe could be.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > it went away, so you could hang around

> > > > > >

> > > > > > and you followed me every night

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > it had to go away for the universe to be?

> > > > >

> > > > > be what?

> > > > >

> > > > > .b b.b.

> > > >

> > > > pretend.

> > > >

> > > > - d -

> > >

> > >

> > > pretend what?

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> >

> > pretend to be observed.

> >

> > - d -

>

>

> what's to pretend to observe?

>

> .b b.b.

 

the observed.

 

what's observed?

 

the pretending.

 

- d -

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

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> > what's to pretend to observe?

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> the observed.

>

> what's observed?

>

> the pretending.

>

> - d -

 

Hah! :-). The toilet bowl is looking at me again ;-).

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > what's to pretend to observe?

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> Nothing. The pretense just arises (or not), as a result of mistaken ideas.

 

 

what's a mistaken idea?

 

who's or what's?

 

is any idea really wrong?

 

how's that?

 

who's the judge?

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > > what's to pretend to observe?

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> >

> > Nothing. The pretense just arises (or not), as a result of mistaken ideas.

>

>

> what's a mistaken idea?

>

> who's or what's?

>

> is any idea really wrong?

>

> how's that?

>

> who's the judge?

>

> .b b.b.

 

Not wrong in the sense of 'bad wrong'. Wrong in the sense of 'this is not

really how things are'. As in, 2+2=5.

 

P.S. Please don't say " who's to judge 2+2 isn't really 5? " , as ya know it's

silly.

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > what's to pretend to observe?

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > Nothing. The pretense just arises (or not), as a result of mistaken

ideas.

> >

> >

> > what's a mistaken idea?

> >

> > who's or what's?

> >

> > is any idea really wrong?

> >

> > how's that?

> >

> > who's the judge?

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> Not wrong in the sense of 'bad wrong'. Wrong in the sense of 'this is not

really how things are'. As in, 2+2=5.

>

> P.S. Please don't say " who's to judge 2+2 isn't really 5? " , as ya know it's

silly.

 

 

i wrote this before but it didn't go through yoohoo .

 

i could be wrong.

 

i was once.

 

about 60 years ago.

 

i had a " junior moment " .

 

i had thought i was wrong about something else.

 

but of course i was wrong about that.

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > what's to pretend to observe?

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > Nothing. The pretense just arises (or not), as a result of mistaken

ideas.

> >

> >

> > what's a mistaken idea?

> >

> > who's or what's?

> >

> > is any idea really wrong?

> >

> > how's that?

> >

> > who's the judge?

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> Not wrong in the sense of 'bad wrong'. Wrong in the sense of 'this is not

really how things are'. As in, 2+2=5.

>

> P.S. Please don't say " who's to judge 2+2 isn't really 5? " , as ya know it's

silly.

 

 

if it's rabbits you're talking about..

 

2+2 could equal several...

 

who knows..

 

if several of the several die stillborn..

 

leaving 1..

 

it WOULD be 5.

 

life's full of surprises.

 

if your just talking about " bare " numbers..

 

they mean whatever you want them to mean.

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

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> so it's subjective then?

>

> .b b.b.

 

It's subjective/objective. A subject observing an object, which is observing

the subject back. All in the mind.

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > so it's subjective then?

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> It's subjective/objective. A subject observing an object, which is observing

the subject back. All in the mind.

 

 

from FMW:

 

APHORISMS ON CONSCIOUSNESS-WITHOUT-AN-OBJECT

 

 

1. Consciousness-without-an-object is.

 

 

2. Before objects were, Consciousness-without-an-object is.

 

 

3. Though objects seem to exist, Consciousness-without-an-object is.

 

 

4. When objects vanish, yet remaining through all unaffected,

Consciousness-without-an-object is.

 

 

5. Outside of Consciousness-without-an-object nothing is.

 

 

6. Within the bosom of Consciousness-without-an-object lies the power of

awareness that projects objects.

 

 

7. When objects are projected, the power of awareness as subject is

presupposed, yet Consciousness-without-an-object remains unchanged.

 

 

8. When consciousness of objects is born, then, likewise, consciousness of

absence of objects arises.

 

 

9. Consciousness of objects is the Universe.

 

 

10. Consciousness of absence of objects is Nirvana.

 

 

11. Within Consciousness-without-an-object lie both the Universe and Nirvana,

yet to Consciousness-without-an-object these two are the same.

 

 

12. Within Consciousness-without-an-object lies the seed of Time.

 

 

13. When awareness cognizes Time then knowledge of Timelessness is born.

 

 

14. To be aware of Time is to be aware of the Universe, and to be aware of the

Universe is to be aware of Time.

 

 

15. To realize Timelessness is to attain Nirvana.

 

 

16. But for Consciousness-without-an-object there is no difference between

Time and Timelessness.

 

 

17. Within Consciousness-without-an-object lies the seed of the

world-containing Space.

 

 

18. When awareness cognizes the world-containing Space then knowledge of the

Spatial Void is born.

 

 

19. To be aware of the world-containing Space is to be aware of the Universe

of Objects.

 

 

20. To realize the Spatial Void is to awaken to Nirvanic Consciousness.

 

 

21. But for Consciousness-without-an-object there is no difference between the

world-containing Space and the Spatial Void.

 

 

22. Within Consciousness-without-an-object lies the Seed of Law.

 

 

23. When consciousness of objects is born the Law is invoked as a Force

tending ever toward Equilibrium.

 

 

24. All objects exist as tensions within Consciousness-without-an-object that

tend ever to flow into their own complements or others.

 

 

25. The ultimate effect of the flow of all objects into their complements is

mutual cancellation in complete Equilibrium.

 

 

26. Consciousness of the field of tensions is the Universe.

 

 

27. Consciousness of Equilibrium is Nirvana.

 

 

28. But for Consciousness-without-an-object there is neither tension nor

Equilibrium.

 

 

29. The state of tensions is the state of ever-becoming.

 

 

30. Ever-becoming is endless-dying.

 

 

31. So the state of consciousness of objects is a state of ever-renewing

promises that pass into death at the moment of fulfillment.

 

 

32. Thus when consciousness is attached to objects the agony of birth and

death never ceases.

 

 

33. In the state of Equilibrium where birth cancels death the deathless Bliss

of Nirvana is realized.

 

 

34. But Consciousness-without-an-object is neither agony nor bliss.

 

 

35. Out of the Great Void, which is Consciousness-without-an-object, the

Universe is creatively projected.

 

 

36. The Universe as experienced is the created negation that ever resists.

 

 

37. The creative act is bliss, the resistance, unending pain.

 

 

38. Endless resistance is the Universe of experience, the agony of

crucifixion.

 

 

39. Ceaseless creativeness is Nirvana, the Bliss beyond human conceiving.

 

 

40. But for Consciousness-without-an-object there is neither creativeness nor

resistance.

 

 

41. Ever-becoming and ever-ceasing-to-be are endless action.

 

 

42. When ever-becoming cancels the ever-ceasing-to-be then Rest is realized.

 

 

43. Ceaseless action is the Universe.

 

 

44. Unending Rest is Nirvana.

 

 

45. But Consciousness-without-an-object is neither Action nor Rest.

 

 

46. When consciousness is attached to objects it is restricted through the

forms imposed by the world-containing Space, by Time, and by Law.

 

 

47. When consciousness is disengaged from objects, Liberation from the forms

of the world-containing Space, of Time, and of Law is attained.

 

 

48. Attachment to objects is consciousness bound within the Universe.

 

 

49. Liberation from such attachment is the State of unlimited Nirvanic

Freedom.

 

 

50. But Consciousness-without-an-object is neither bondage nor freedom.

 

 

51. Consciousness-without-an-object may be symbolized by a SPACE that is

unaffected by the presence or absence of objects, for which there is neither

Time nor Timelessness, neither a world-containing Space nor a Spatial Void,

neither Tension nor Equilibrium, neither Resistance nor Creativeness, neither

Agony nor Bliss, neither Action nor Rest, and neither Restriction nor Freedom.

 

 

52. As the GREAT SPACE is not to be identified with the Universe, so neither

is It to be identified with any Self.

 

 

53. The GREAT SPACE is not God, but the comprehender of all Gods, as well as

of all lesser creatures.

 

 

54. The GREAT SPACE, or Consciousness-without-an-object, is the Sole Reality

upon which all objects and all selves depend and derive their existence.

 

 

55. The GREAT SPACE comprehends both the Path of the Universe and the Path of

Nirvana.

 

 

56. Beside the GREAT SPACE there is none other.

 

 

OM TAT SAT

 

 

 

 

ta da!

 

....and a now!

 

The Nameless

Above, below, to right, to left, all-encompassing,

Before and after and all between,

Within and without, at once everywhere,

Transforming and stable, ceaselessly;

Uncaused, while fathering all causes,

The Reason behind all reasoning,

Needing nought, yet ever supplying,

The One and Only, sustaining all variety,

The Source of all qualities, possessing no attributes,

Ever continuous, appearing discrete,

Inexpressible, the base of all expression,

Without number, making possible all number,

Containing the lover and the beloved as one,

Doing nought, remaining the Field of all action—

The actor and the action not different—

Indifferent in utter completion;

Diffused through all space, yet in the Point concentrated,

Beyond time, containing all time,

Without bounds, making bounds possible,

Knowing no change;

Inconceivable, yet through It all conceiving becoming;

Nameless ever and unmastered;

THAT am I, and so art Thou.

 

 

posted by your pal.....b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

<Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > " non dimensional..non energy...non matter/space/time..it's

not in the domain

> > > > > > > > > > > of ponderablity "

> > > > > > > > > > > Well... youjust invented a another new name to it - just a

bit longer. The

> > > > > > > > > > > same.

> > > > > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > funny. true.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > what it?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > you know, " it "

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the it that went away, so the universe could be.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > it went away, so you could hang around

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > and you followed me every night

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > it had to go away for the universe to be?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > be what?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > pretend.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > - d -

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > pretend what?

> > > > >

> > > > > .b b.b.

> > > >

> > > > pretend to be observed.

> > > >

> > > > - d -

> > >

> > >

> > > what's to pretend to observe?

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> >

> > the observed.

> >

> > what's observed?

> >

> > the pretending.

> >

> > - d -

>

>

> so it's subjective then?

>

> .b b.b.

 

it's pretended that the subject is there having an objective existence.

 

it's pretended that the object is there being seen by a subject that exists

apart from the object.

 

- d -

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

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> it's pretended that the subject is there having an objective

> existence.

 

That may be the nuttiest aspect. The body, an object, is the subject? It seems

here most of the confusion lies right there.

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

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>

> it's pretended that the subject is there having an objective

> existence.

 

BTW, it's worth pointing out that none of this means the body has no existence,

that it isn't there. What it means is that the body is not a subject (or

ultimately an object, either).

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

<Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

<Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 "

<dan330033@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > " non dimensional..non energy...non

matter/space/time..it's not in the domain

> > > > > > > > > > > > of ponderablity "

> > > > > > > > > > > > Well... youjust invented a another new name to it - just

a bit longer. The

> > > > > > > > > > > > same.

> > > > > > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > funny. true.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > what it?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > you know, " it "

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > the it that went away, so the universe could be.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > it went away, so you could hang around

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > and you followed me every night

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > it had to go away for the universe to be?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > be what?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > pretend.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > - d -

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > pretend what?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > >

> > > > > pretend to be observed.

> > > > >

> > > > > - d -

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > what's to pretend to observe?

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > the observed.

> > >

> > > what's observed?

> > >

> > > the pretending.

> > >

> > > - d -

> >

> >

> > so it's subjective then?

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> it's pretended that the subject is there having an objective existence.

>

> it's pretended that the object is there being seen by a subject that exists

apart from the object.

>

> - d -

 

 

what is it before it starts pretending?

 

what is it after the pretending starts?

 

who's trying to bullshit whom?

 

what is or isn't going on or not going on?

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > it's pretended that the subject is there having an objective

> > existence.

>

> That may be the nuttiest aspect. The body, an object, is the subject? It

seems here most of the confusion lies right there.

 

 

nuttiest compared to what " other " " aspect " ?

 

whose confusion?

 

what is not discombobulation?...the above????

 

hoho!

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > it's pretended that the subject is there having an objective

> > existence.

>

> BTW, it's worth pointing out that none of this means the body has no

existence, that it isn't there. What it means is that the body is not a subject

(or ultimately an object, either).

 

 

so that was typed & posted by neither a subject no an object.

 

out of nowhere into everywhere..

 

which is nowhere.

 

...but it's HERE NOW.

 

fucking fantastic noman!

 

:-)

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

 

>

> what is it before it starts pretending?

 

unnamed

 

> what is it after the pretending starts?

 

positioned

 

> who's trying to bullshit whom?

 

right on

 

> what is or isn't going on or not going on?

 

birth/death

 

is and isn't going on

 

> .b b.b.

 

- d -

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

>

> >

> > what is it before it starts pretending?

>

> unnamed

>

> > what is it after the pretending starts?

>

> positioned

>

> > who's trying to bullshit whom?

>

> right on

>

> > what is or isn't going on or not going on?

>

> birth/death

>

> is and isn't going on

>

> > .b b.b.

>

> - d -

 

 

not bad for a pop quiz.

 

but it was multiple non choice quiz... not essay.

 

you just couldn't see the no choice numbers.

 

maybe next time.

 

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