Guest guest Report post Posted May 30, 2009 - souldreamone Nisargadatta Friday, May 29, 2009 9:52 PM Re: Re: Physical Death In a message dated 5/29/2009 5:04:10 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, inandor writes: Funny...why is it that I dont understand what anyone is saying? -geo- ***Cause we're all playing silly word games?? No...I guess it is the seriousness of your quest. Ah...dont take me seriously tonight... -geo- We found the real 'Hotel California' and the 'Seinfeld' diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 30, 2009 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 5/29/2009 4:23:47 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > dan330033 writes: > > > > > You'll have to let us know how that turns out for ya. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > ****I can tell you now, it has worked wonderfully for me. At some > point, > > you might begin to realize that you are that which is aware, and so all > that > > can be 'done' is to pay attention and realize what has yet to be > noticed. > > The distraction of the neti-neti monster game will have to end, though. > > > if you can be distracted from it, it's not it. > > > ****By " it " you mean Truth? I'm talking about noticing illusion. an illusion noticing an illusion? come on! ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 30, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Friday, May 29, 2009 9:45 PM > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > roberibus111 > > Nisargadatta > > Friday, May 29, 2009 9:30 PM > > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > roberibus111 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Friday, May 29, 2009 9:12 PM > > > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > dan330033 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Friday, May 29, 2009 8:20 PM > > > > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is the Pathless. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > Where? > > > > > > > > .d. > > > > > > > > Funny..I dont understand what you 2 are tl]alking about.. > > > > -geo- > > > > > > what you just wrote.. > > > > > > is that Vulcan or Klingon? > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > Un or fortunately i dont know those two gentleman. > > > Dont bother to introduce.... > > > -geo- > > > > those are Star Trek World planets not individual people. > > > > those fictitious places are inhabited by fictitious creatures. > > > > like us...in the fictitious aspect that is. > > > > at least i think just in the fictitious aspect.. > > > > do you have pointy ears or hard bulges on your head? > > > > .b b.b. > > > > nah..not yet > > -geo- > > well how did you learn the language of those " folks " ? > > you know like: > > " ..you 2 are tl]alking about " . > > anyway there's an old Vulcan curse too. > > spoken in english it goes like this: > > " live long and prosper " . > > now that's downright nasty. > > .b b.b. > > Really? And how long does it take to get the diploma? > -geo- a diploma is worth about as much as GM stock these days. all it will do nowadays.. is get you a better position behind the counter of McDonalds. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 30, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > if you can be distracted from it, it's not it. There never was any such thing as time. It was imaginary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 30, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > ****There's a process of realizing what is not so, which lessens the grasp > > on the illusion. It's not the process you're engaged in, though. > > > self-serving nonsense. > > .d. Self-nonsense... serving. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 30, 2009 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 5/29/2009 2:16:15 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > inandor writes: > > > > You must choose it with the heart > > > -geo- > > > > > > > Ok......no more Don Juan for you. > > > > He was all made up by Carlos you know. > > > > toombaru > > > > No kidding. Did he made up the heart too? > > -geo- > > > > In order for you to choose the path with heart.......you would have to > have > a choice........and you don't. > > toombaru > > Dont you choose to post or not? To piss now or ten minutes later? Can you > choose to stop answering posts that you know are useless? > -geo- > > > > ***Yup, preventing the choosing from happening as a result of grasping the > notion that choosing can't happen, is nonvolitional foolishness posing as > a volitional nonchooser. As enlightenment is bounded by ignorance, and as ignorance is bounded by enlightenment, the boundless transcends the categories " ignorance " and " enlightenment " ... -- Dan Berkow (Now) " One may seek a teacher or spiritual path, but such will only provide more sensation, thought, and experience. One may seek to let go, but this activity will always depend on there being something to let go. " -- Dan Berkow (Now) How now, brown cows ;-). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 30, 2009 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > ****Nondual concepts have a nasty tendency to bring on a further delusion > of deep sleep instead of eliminating the delusion of 'me'. To say that > nothing can be noticed because there is no me, is a voice that comes from a > deep, deep sleep of ignorance. Not to mention, the concept 'me' is harmless. Do re me fa so la me do ;-). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 30, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/29/2009 2:16:15 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > inandor@ writes: > > > > > > You must choose it with the heart > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > Ok......no more Don Juan for you. > > > > > > He was all made up by Carlos you know. > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > No kidding. Did he made up the heart too? > > > -geo- > > > > > > > In order for you to choose the path with heart.......you would have to > > have > > a choice........and you don't. > > > > toombaru > > > > Dont you choose to post or not? To piss now or ten minutes later? Can you > > choose to stop answering posts that you know are useless? > > -geo- > > > > > > > > ***Yup, preventing the choosing from happening as a result of grasping the > > notion that choosing can't happen, is nonvolitional foolishness posing as > > a volitional nonchooser. > > As enlightenment is bounded by ignorance, > and as ignorance is bounded by enlightenment, > the boundless transcends the categories > " ignorance " and " enlightenment " ... > > -- Dan Berkow (Now) > > " One may seek a teacher or spiritual path, but such will only provide more sensation, thought, and experience. One may seek to let go, but this activity will always depend on there being something to let go. " > > -- Dan Berkow (Now) > > How now, brown cows ;-). it's make-a-buck phony bullshit say the cows. and they know what that is by it's smell. so it doesn't take a lot of intelligence to see what that shit is. now you don't buy that crap do you popo? or did you and then post a piece of it here. well... LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 30, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > ****Nondual concepts have a nasty tendency to bring on a further delusion > > of deep sleep instead of eliminating the delusion of 'me'. To say that > > nothing can be noticed because there is no me, is a voice that comes from a > > deep, deep sleep of ignorance. > > Not to mention, the concept 'me' is harmless. > > Do re me fa so la me do ;-). where did i read something re me me me me fa so la ti do? and read it today too. on this list as well. well it's harmless..and meaningless. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 30, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > ****Nondual concepts have a nasty tendency to bring on a further delusion > > > of deep sleep instead of eliminating the delusion of 'me'. To say that > > > nothing can be noticed because there is no me, is a voice that comes from a > > > deep, deep sleep of ignorance. > > > > Not to mention, the concept 'me' is harmless. > > > > Do re me fa so la me do ;-). > > > where did i read something re me me me me fa so la ti do? > > and read it today too. > > on this list as well. > > well it's harmless..and meaningless. > > .b b.b. It's me-ingless. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 30, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > it's far worse than a process of realizing what is not so. > > > > it's utter loss of faith in anything. > > > > -d > > Worse? > > It's wonderful :-). ;-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 30, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Friday, May 29, 2009 8:20 PM > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > There is the Pathless. > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > Where? > > .d. > > Funny..I dont understand what you 2 are tl]alking about.. > -geo- here, this is a comment about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 30, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Friday, May 29, 2009 8:23 PM > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/29/2009 12:46:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > lastrain@ writes: > > > > > Helpful? > > > > > > Do you think that this talk is going somewhere? > > > > > > Do you think that there exists something that can improve itself? > > > > > > > > > ****All interactions are potentially helpful, if we're willing to pay > > > attention. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You'll have to let us know how that turns out for ya. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > ****I can tell you now, it has worked wonderfully for me. At some point, > > you might begin to realize that you are that which is aware, and so all > > that > > can be 'done' is to pay attention and realize what has yet to be noticed. > > The distraction of the neti-neti monster game will have to end, though. > > if you can be distracted from it, it's not it. > > geo> uni duni tre...salami mingue...I choose yes. when did you choose, finally? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 30, 2009 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 5/29/2009 4:23:47 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > dan330033 writes: > > > > > You'll have to let us know how that turns out for ya. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > ****I can tell you now, it has worked wonderfully for me. At some > point, > > you might begin to realize that you are that which is aware, and so all > that > > can be 'done' is to pay attention and realize what has yet to be > noticed. > > The distraction of the neti-neti monster game will have to end, though. > > > if you can be distracted from it, it's not it. > > > ****By " it " you mean Truth? I'm talking about noticing illusion. if an illusion can be noticed, you've stepped out of it. so, it's not it. and it is it, you see. how are you going to step out of it, to notice illusion? what is your plan? how will you manage to be distracted from it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 30, 2009 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 5/29/2009 4:26:46 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > dan330033 writes: > > > > > So becoming aware is a process? > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > ****There's a process of realizing what is not so, which lessens the > grasp > > on the illusion. It's not the process you're engaged in, though. > > > it's far worse than a process of realizing what is not so. > > it's utter loss of faith in anything. > > -d > > > ****Since nothing is so, they are the same. the sense of meaning is gone. - d - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 30, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > if you can be distracted from it, it's not it. > > There never was any such thing as time. It was imaginary. It was what it wasn't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 30, 2009 - roberibus111 Nisargadatta Friday, May 29, 2009 10:18 PM Re: Physical Death Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Friday, May 29, 2009 9:45 PM > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > roberibus111 > > Nisargadatta > > Friday, May 29, 2009 9:30 PM > > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > roberibus111 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Friday, May 29, 2009 9:12 PM > > > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > dan330033 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Friday, May 29, 2009 8:20 PM > > > > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is the Pathless. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > Where? > > > > > > > > .d. > > > > > > > > Funny..I dont understand what you 2 are tl]alking about.. > > > > -geo- > > > > > > what you just wrote.. > > > > > > is that Vulcan or Klingon? > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > Un or fortunately i dont know those two gentleman. > > > Dont bother to introduce.... > > > -geo- > > > > those are Star Trek World planets not individual people. > > > > those fictitious places are inhabited by fictitious creatures. > > > > like us...in the fictitious aspect that is. > > > > at least i think just in the fictitious aspect.. > > > > do you have pointy ears or hard bulges on your head? > > > > .b b.b. > > > > nah..not yet > > -geo- > > well how did you learn the language of those " folks " ? > > you know like: > > " ..you 2 are tl]alking about " . > > anyway there's an old Vulcan curse too. > > spoken in english it goes like this: > > " live long and prosper " . > > now that's downright nasty. > > .b b.b. > > Really? And how long does it take to get the diploma? > -geo- a diploma is worth about as much as GM stock these days. all it will do nowadays.. is get you a better position behind the counter of McDonalds. ..b b.b. In that case i will not attend the Vulcan curse. Do you also trade stocks? -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 30, 2009 - dan330033 Nisargadatta Saturday, May 30, 2009 4:49 AM Re: Physical Death Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Friday, May 29, 2009 8:23 PM > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/29/2009 12:46:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > lastrain@ writes: > > > > > Helpful? > > > > > > Do you think that this talk is going somewhere? > > > > > > Do you think that there exists something that can improve itself? > > > > > > > > > ****All interactions are potentially helpful, if we're willing to pay > > > attention. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You'll have to let us know how that turns out for ya. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > ****I can tell you now, it has worked wonderfully for me. At some point, > > you might begin to realize that you are that which is aware, and so all > > that > > can be 'done' is to pay attention and realize what has yet to be > > noticed. > > The distraction of the neti-neti monster game will have to end, though. > > if you can be distracted from it, it's not it. > > geo> uni duni tre...salami mingue...I choose yes. when did you choose, finally? I think it was 8:15 yesterday. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 30, 2009 - dan330033 Nisargadatta Saturday, May 30, 2009 4:57 AM Re: Physical Death Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 5/29/2009 4:23:47 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > dan330033 writes: > > > > > You'll have to let us know how that turns out for ya. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > ****I can tell you now, it has worked wonderfully for me. At some > point, > > you might begin to realize that you are that which is aware, and so all > that > > can be 'done' is to pay attention and realize what has yet to be > noticed. > > The distraction of the neti-neti monster game will have to end, though. > > > if you can be distracted from it, it's not it. > > > ****By " it " you mean Truth? I'm talking about noticing illusion. if an illusion can be noticed, you've stepped out of it. so, it's not it. and it is it, you see. how are you going to step out of it, to notice illusion? what is your plan? how will you manage to be distracted from it? geo> Is not this totality of patterning clearly seen? If only a apart is seen then illusion is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 30, 2009 - dan330033 Nisargadatta Saturday, May 30, 2009 5:00 AM Re: Physical Death Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 5/29/2009 5:04:10 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > inandor writes: > > Funny...why is it that I dont understand what anyone is saying? > -geo- > > > ***Cause we're all playing silly word games?? hold onto that thought. it will serve you well. ..d. Not understanding or word games? -g- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 30, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Friday, May 29, 2009 10:18 PM > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > roberibus111 > > Nisargadatta > > Friday, May 29, 2009 9:45 PM > > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > roberibus111 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Friday, May 29, 2009 9:30 PM > > > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > roberibus111 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Friday, May 29, 2009 9:12 PM > > > > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > dan330033 > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Friday, May 29, 2009 8:20 PM > > > > > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is the Pathless. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > Where? > > > > > > > > > > .d. > > > > > > > > > > Funny..I dont understand what you 2 are tl]alking about.. > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > what you just wrote.. > > > > > > > > is that Vulcan or Klingon? > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > Un or fortunately i dont know those two gentleman. > > > > Dont bother to introduce.... > > > > -geo- > > > > > > those are Star Trek World planets not individual people. > > > > > > those fictitious places are inhabited by fictitious creatures. > > > > > > like us...in the fictitious aspect that is. > > > > > > at least i think just in the fictitious aspect.. > > > > > > do you have pointy ears or hard bulges on your head? > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > nah..not yet > > > -geo- > > > > well how did you learn the language of those " folks " ? > > > > you know like: > > > > " ..you 2 are tl]alking about " . > > > > anyway there's an old Vulcan curse too. > > > > spoken in english it goes like this: > > > > " live long and prosper " . > > > > now that's downright nasty. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Really? And how long does it take to get the diploma? > > -geo- > > a diploma is worth about as much as GM stock these days. > > all it will do nowadays.. > > is get you a better position behind the counter of McDonalds. > > .b b.b. > > In that case i will not attend the Vulcan curse. > Do you also trade stocks? > -geo- yes as well as socks. i have some neat old argyles if you care to trade. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Saturday, May 30, 2009 4:57 AM > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/29/2009 4:23:47 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > dan330033@ writes: > > > > > > > > You'll have to let us know how that turns out for ya. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > ****I can tell you now, it has worked wonderfully for me. At some > > point, > > > you might begin to realize that you are that which is aware, and so all > > that > > > can be 'done' is to pay attention and realize what has yet to be > > noticed. > > > The distraction of the neti-neti monster game will have to end, though. > > > > > > if you can be distracted from it, it's not it. > > > > > > ****By " it " you mean Truth? I'm talking about noticing illusion. > > if an illusion can be noticed, you've stepped out of it. > > so, it's not it. > > and it is it, you see. > > how are you going to step out of it, to notice illusion? > > what is your plan? > > how will you manage to be distracted from it? > > geo> Is not this totality of patterning clearly seen? If only a apart is > seen then illusion is. how can it ever be something else, other than totality? where is someplace outside of totality, for an illusion to take place? -- d. -- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Saturday, May 30, 2009 5:00 AM > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/29/2009 5:04:10 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > inandor@ writes: > > > > Funny...why is it that I dont understand what anyone is saying? > > -geo- > > > > > > ***Cause we're all playing silly word games?? > > hold onto that thought. > > it will serve you well. > > .d. > > Not understanding or word games? > -g- any evaluative thought will do. ..d. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > how can it ever be something else, other than totality? > > where is someplace outside of totality, for an illusion to take place? > > -- d. -- Will someone next be asking " where is totality? " " Over there " . " Yonder " . " Somewhere over the rainbow " . " These dreams, go on when I close my eyes... " :-p. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 1, 2009 - dan330033 Nisargadatta Sunday, May 31, 2009 11:54 PM Re: Physical Death Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Saturday, May 30, 2009 4:57 AM > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/29/2009 4:23:47 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > dan330033@ writes: > > > > > > > > You'll have to let us know how that turns out for ya. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > ****I can tell you now, it has worked wonderfully for me. At some > > point, > > > you might begin to realize that you are that which is aware, and so > > > all > > that > > > can be 'done' is to pay attention and realize what has yet to be > > noticed. > > > The distraction of the neti-neti monster game will have to end, > > > though. > > > > > > if you can be distracted from it, it's not it. > > > > > > ****By " it " you mean Truth? I'm talking about noticing illusion. > > if an illusion can be noticed, you've stepped out of it. > > so, it's not it. > > and it is it, you see. > > how are you going to step out of it, to notice illusion? > > what is your plan? > > how will you manage to be distracted from it? > > geo> Is not this totality of patterning clearly seen? If only a apart is > seen then illusion is. how can it ever be something else, other than totality? where is someplace outside of totality, for an illusion to take place? -- d. -- Within the bounded and limited space of the mind. -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites