Guest guest Report post Posted May 23, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Thus, the teaching: there is neither creation nor destruction. > > > > > > > > If you really believe anything is being taught, you are vain. > > > > > > Ramana offered the teaching. > > > > > > Tim said if Ramana really believed he was teaching, he was vain. > > > > Yes, that's correct. > > > > Those who believe in separate beings are not qualified to teach. > > > > And those who realize the truth, realize there's no one to teach. > > > > Nobody has ever taught anything. > > > > One turns to oneself. > > > > Independently. > > > > > But there isn't one. > > > :-0 > > > > toombaru Indeed. There isn't any way to turn to oneself. There is no independence. Understanding is now. There is no division between now and understanding. -- Dan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 23, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Saturday, May 23, 2009 3:06 PM > Re: no pattern P.S. P.S2 > > ... What I said a million years ago are like notes from a tuba that I hear > echoing today. > > Today? > > Where is today? > > Echoes of laughter in the halls of bubbles, bubbles of multidimensional > light, refracting bubbles ... > > empty ... nothing .. full ... > > still ... ness ... > > Blip, blip, blip ... > > -- Dan > > How weird Dan... I was sitting here looking at the afternoon sun light > through the half open door, > and I saw my body and its own world - consciousness - as a bright bubble of > light. > It was 10 mints ago.. > -geo- And now? Do you understand the light you are? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 23, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Saturday, May 23, 2009 3:15 PM > Re: no pattern P.S. P.S2 > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > He probably means that it had all been said before. > > Yes. > > Ho hum. > > Let's enshrine these words for all eternity. > > Not. > > Krishnamurti wanted to make sure there was a foundation set up to preserve > his words for future generations. > > geo> As many times before, you dont seem to read right. Krishnamurti did NOT > want any foundation. In fact he > explicitly stated that there is NOBADY no entity, no foundation that could > speak for him. People around him > did it. He refused it when he was 29 years old... but people around him > wanted it. What could he do to avoid it? Geo, it is you who don't seem to read right. Or perhaps read a little of a story and haven't read the whole story. Krishnamurti repudiated the " Order of the Star " and Theosophy. Krishnamurti was instrumental in setting up the Krishnamurti Foundation. Here, let me quickly see if I can turn something up online. O.K., looking under " Krishnamurti Foundation " : " Krishnamurti Foundation India (KFI) was set up in 1928 as a charitable institution by Krishnamurti under the name of The Rishi Valley Trust. The name was changed to the Foundation for New Education in 1953 and then to the Krishnamurti Foundation India in 1970. The activities of the Foundation include the preservation and dissemination of his teachings, the running of schools, environmental conservation, rural education and health care. " I once read a speech Krishnamurti gave about the foundation, saying that he wanted it to publish his books and records of his talks and ensure that future generations could read his words. And if you ask me to prove it, I haven't kept a copy of the speech and don't really care much about it. > Now, that is a laugh. > > geo > It would be a laugh if it was true. It's true. And so what? Life goes on, Geo. > That money could have been used to put food in the bellies of people hit by > droughts. > > Does it matter? > > I've been shattered. > > A hoot. > > And a holler. > > Walt Whitman, " Songs of Myself. " > > Divine narcissism. > > All I see on every side are reflections of myself reflecting myself. > > SMUB, > > geo> Waht is that? Smiling under my breath ... Heh. As one reflection to another ... Salud! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 23, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Walt Whitman, " Songs of Myself. " > > > > Divine narcissism. > > It only becomes narcissism when talked about. Narcissism and 'egoicity' are always qualities defined/decided by someone else ;-). Exactly! It is the " someone else commenting about someone " factor ... Just as it is the " wanting to make an impression on someone else " fact ... Else? St. Elseperson? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 23, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Enjoyed that post, thnx Dan. Thanks to you, too, Tim. And to all ... Deeelightful. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 23, 2009 - dan330033 Nisargadatta Saturday, May 23, 2009 4:20 PM Re: no pattern P.S. P.S2 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Saturday, May 23, 2009 3:06 PM > Re: no pattern P.S. P.S2 > > ... What I said a million years ago are like notes from a tuba that I hear > echoing today. > > Today? > > Where is today? > > Echoes of laughter in the halls of bubbles, bubbles of multidimensional > light, refracting bubbles ... > > empty ... nothing .. full ... > > still ... ness ... > > Blip, blip, blip ... > > -- Dan > > How weird Dan... I was sitting here looking at the afternoon sun light > through the half open door, > and I saw my body and its own world - consciousness - as a bright bubble > of > light. > It was 10 mints ago.. > -geo- And now? Do you understand the light you are? geo> And now....on the way to the next insight I am sure its just next corner, next bar, next coffee... As toomba would say: its a facet of insights... And you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 23, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Walt Whitman, " Songs of Myself. " > > > > > > Divine narcissism. > > > > It only becomes narcissism when talked about. Narcissism and 'egoicity' are always qualities defined/decided by someone else ;-). > > > Exactly! > > It is the " someone else commenting about someone " factor ... > > Just as it is the " wanting to make an impression on someone else " fact ... > > Else? > > St. Elseperson? Hey, it's all a social disease ;-). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 23, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Saturday, May 23, 2009 4:20 PM > Re: no pattern P.S. P.S2 > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > dan330033 > > Nisargadatta > > Saturday, May 23, 2009 3:06 PM > > Re: no pattern P.S. P.S2 > > > > > ... What I said a million years ago are like notes from a tuba that I hear > > echoing today. > > > > Today? > > > > Where is today? > > > > Echoes of laughter in the halls of bubbles, bubbles of multidimensional > > light, refracting bubbles ... > > > > empty ... nothing .. full ... > > > > still ... ness ... > > > > Blip, blip, blip ... > > > > -- Dan > > > > How weird Dan... I was sitting here looking at the afternoon sun light > > through the half open door, > > and I saw my body and its own world - consciousness - as a bright bubble > > of > > light. > > It was 10 mints ago.. > > -geo- > > And now? > > Do you understand the light you are? > > geo> And now....on the way to the next insight I am sure its just next > corner, next bar, next coffee... > As toomba would say: its a facet of insights... > And you? I say there is no past insight that I had, and no future insight that I will have. So ... Now? Does one understand the light one is? The light that has never been objectified? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 23, 2009 - dan330033 Nisargadatta Saturday, May 23, 2009 4:34 PM Re: no pattern P.S. P.S2 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Saturday, May 23, 2009 3:15 PM > Re: no pattern P.S. P.S2 > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > He probably means that it had all been said before. > > Yes. > > Ho hum. > > Let's enshrine these words for all eternity. > > Not. > > Krishnamurti wanted to make sure there was a foundation set up to preserve > his words for future generations. > > geo> As many times before, you dont seem to read right. Krishnamurti did > NOT > want any foundation. In fact he > explicitly stated that there is NOBADY no entity, no foundation that could > speak for him. People around him > did it. He refused it when he was 29 years old... but people around him > wanted it. What could he do to avoid it? Geo, it is you who don't seem to read right. Or perhaps read a little of a story and haven't read the whole story. Krishnamurti repudiated the " Order of the Star " and Theosophy. Krishnamurti was instrumental in setting up the Krishnamurti Foundation. Here, let me quickly see if I can turn something up online. O.K., looking under " Krishnamurti Foundation " : " Krishnamurti Foundation India (KFI) was set up in 1928 as a charitable institution by Krishnamurti under the name of The Rishi Valley Trust. The name was changed to the Foundation for New Education in 1953 and then to the Krishnamurti Foundation India in 1970. The activities of the Foundation include the preservation and dissemination of his teachings, the running of schools, environmental conservation, rural education and health care. " I once read a speech Krishnamurti gave about the foundation, saying that he wanted it to publish his books and records of his talks and ensure that future generations could read his words. And if you ask me to prove it, I haven't kept a copy of the speech and don't really care much about it. geo> He dissolved the order of star. But there was a big amount of money and lands and other possessions that had to be taken care off, so a fundation was founded. Not to preserve his teachings. Why would there be a need to preserve words?? They are in books and tapes. Where is the need for a foundation? The issue was the amount of money involved, so the best thing was to open a foundation. But his words - of course - he must have known where of value. If you want people to read your words why wouldnt krishnamurti? or Nisargadatta? Only Dan? > Now, that is a laugh. > > geo > It would be a laugh if it was true. It's true. And so what? Life goes on, Geo. geo> No foundatons created by K to preserve his teachings.... It is just a natural need to " look down " upon others....part of life that goes on.... > That money could have been used to put food in the bellies of people hit > by > droughts. > > Does it matter? > > I've been shattered. > > A hoot. > > And a holler. > > Walt Whitman, " Songs of Myself. " > > Divine narcissism. > > All I see on every side are reflections of myself reflecting myself. > > SMUB, > > geo> Waht is that? Smiling under my breath ... Heh. As one reflection to another ... Salud! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 23, 2009 - dan330033 Nisargadatta Saturday, May 23, 2009 4:57 PM Re: no pattern P.S. P.S2 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Saturday, May 23, 2009 4:20 PM > Re: no pattern P.S. P.S2 > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > dan330033 > > Nisargadatta > > Saturday, May 23, 2009 3:06 PM > > Re: no pattern P.S. P.S2 > > > > > ... What I said a million years ago are like notes from a tuba that I > > hear > > echoing today. > > > > Today? > > > > Where is today? > > > > Echoes of laughter in the halls of bubbles, bubbles of multidimensional > > light, refracting bubbles ... > > > > empty ... nothing .. full ... > > > > still ... ness ... > > > > Blip, blip, blip ... > > > > -- Dan > > > > How weird Dan... I was sitting here looking at the afternoon sun light > > through the half open door, > > and I saw my body and its own world - consciousness - as a bright bubble > > of > > light. > > It was 10 mints ago.. > > -geo- > > And now? > > Do you understand the light you are? > > geo> And now....on the way to the next insight I am sure its just next > corner, next bar, next coffee... > As toomba would say: its a facet of insights... > And you? I say there is no past insight that I had, and no future insight that I will have. So ... Now? Does one understand the light one is? The light that has never been objectified? geo> You seem to be pushing this too focefully...I am feeling a bit weary to answer. Light is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You just offered words. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which you say are just words and mean whatever I want them to mean. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't want them to mean anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You haven't blown over anything, just put out words that you say > > > > > > > don't mean anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > Would you know whether I've blown over anything? > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you here? > > > > > > > > > > > > Is any " you " ever here? > > > > > > > > > > > > No. > > > > > > > > > > > > Only " I " am here. > > > > > > > > > > > > Aren't I, the reader of this message, here? > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you, the writer, here? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I am here. > > > > > > > > > > Yes, this is I. > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I do get it. > > > > > > > > > > Yes, you are hitting me over the head with it. > > > > > > > > Sorry... I've tried whispering, but it usually gets lost in the din. > > > > > > > > > But I don't care. > > > > > > > > > > I'm still crazy after all these years. > > > > > > > > > > And still here. > > > > > > > > I'm still here, and moving here. > > > > > > Funny dream you're having. > > > > > > funny how you evidently find yourself in this funny dream. > > > > and you aren't dreaming yourself? > > > > i think you should talk to a good shrink about this. > > > > fuck talking to a guru... > > > > he'll just laugh. > > > > .b b.b. > > there isn't anyone in the dream. > > get a clue, dude. are " you " talkin' to " me " asshole? about nobody being here???? get the hell out of my dream loser. ROFLMAO! ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Saturday, May 23, 2009 4:34 PM > Re: no pattern P.S. P.S2 > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > dan330033 > > Nisargadatta > > Saturday, May 23, 2009 3:15 PM > > Re: no pattern P.S. P.S2 > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > He probably means that it had all been said before. > > > > Yes. > > > > Ho hum. > > > > Let's enshrine these words for all eternity. > > > > Not. > > > > Krishnamurti wanted to make sure there was a foundation set up to preserve > > his words for future generations. > > > > geo> As many times before, you dont seem to read right. Krishnamurti did > > NOT > > want any foundation. In fact he > > explicitly stated that there is NOBADY no entity, no foundation that could > > speak for him. People around him > > did it. He refused it when he was 29 years old... but people around him > > wanted it. What could he do to avoid it? > > Geo, it is you who don't seem to read right. Or perhaps read a little of a > story and haven't read the whole story. > > Krishnamurti repudiated the " Order of the Star " and Theosophy. Krishnamurti > was instrumental in setting up the Krishnamurti Foundation. > > Here, let me quickly see if I can turn something up online. O.K., looking > under " Krishnamurti Foundation " : > > " Krishnamurti Foundation India (KFI) was set up in 1928 as a charitable > institution by Krishnamurti under the name of The Rishi Valley Trust. The > name was changed to the Foundation for New Education in 1953 and then to the > Krishnamurti Foundation India in 1970. > > The activities of the Foundation include the preservation and dissemination > of his teachings, the running of schools, environmental conservation, rural > education and health care. " > > I once read a speech Krishnamurti gave about the foundation, saying that he > wanted it to publish his books and records of his talks and ensure that > future generations could read his words. > > And if you ask me to prove it, I haven't kept a copy of the speech and don't > really care much about it. > > geo> He dissolved the order of star. But there was a big amount of money and > lands and other possessions that had to > be taken care off, so a fundation was founded. Not to preserve his > teachings. Why would there be a need to preserve words?? > They are in books and tapes. Where is the need for a foundation? The issue > was the amount of money involved, so the best thing was > to open a foundation. > But his words - of course - he must have known where of value. If you want > people to read your words why wouldnt krishnamurti? > or Nisargadatta? Only Dan? > > > > Now, that is a laugh. > > > > geo > It would be a laugh if it was true. > > It's true. And so what? > > Life goes on, Geo. > > geo> No foundatons created by K to preserve his teachings.... > It is just a natural need to " look down " upon others....part of life that > goes on.... Oops. Did my halo slip? Don't get me wrong, though. I liked what he had to say. He spoke about thought in a way that's pretty similar to me. Maybe you should read more of him, and I'll start making sense to you. I don't look down on him just because he wanted a J.K. Foundation. Although his cousin U.G. thought that was pretty ironic for someone who said that the truth is a pathless land. Hey, maybe I'll even start a " Dan Foundation " at some point. I wouldn't put it past me. Want to contribute? I can give a lecture about how it's human nature to look down on someone else. And, how it can be fun to look down on someone whom you've decided is looking down on someone. Round and round it goes. Where it stops - the Shadow knows. Human nature? Can't live with it, can't live without it. Not as a human, anyway. -- Dan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > geo> You seem to be pushing this too focefully...I am feeling a bit weary to > answer. > Light is. Hey, it's only wearying if you think about it. Otherwise, light is. Light is light. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > are " you " talkin' to " me " asshole? > > about nobody being here???? > > get the hell out of my dream loser. > > ROFLMAO! > > .b b.b. Are you talking to me about getting out of your dream, loser? When you know nobody is here, asshole? ROFLYAO! ..d .d .d Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > dan330033 > > Nisargadatta > > Saturday, May 23, 2009 4:34 PM > > Re: no pattern P.S. P.S2 > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > dan330033 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Saturday, May 23, 2009 3:15 PM > > > Re: no pattern P.S. P.S2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > He probably means that it had all been said before. > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > Ho hum. > > > > > > Let's enshrine these words for all eternity. > > > > > > Not. > > > > > > Krishnamurti wanted to make sure there was a foundation set up to preserve > > > his words for future generations. > > > > > > geo> As many times before, you dont seem to read right. Krishnamurti did > > > NOT > > > want any foundation. In fact he > > > explicitly stated that there is NOBADY no entity, no foundation that could > > > speak for him. People around him > > > did it. He refused it when he was 29 years old... but people around him > > > wanted it. What could he do to avoid it? > > > > Geo, it is you who don't seem to read right. Or perhaps read a little of a > > story and haven't read the whole story. > > > > Krishnamurti repudiated the " Order of the Star " and Theosophy. Krishnamurti > > was instrumental in setting up the Krishnamurti Foundation. > > > > Here, let me quickly see if I can turn something up online. O.K., looking > > under " Krishnamurti Foundation " : > > > > " Krishnamurti Foundation India (KFI) was set up in 1928 as a charitable > > institution by Krishnamurti under the name of The Rishi Valley Trust. The > > name was changed to the Foundation for New Education in 1953 and then to the > > Krishnamurti Foundation India in 1970. > > > > The activities of the Foundation include the preservation and dissemination > > of his teachings, the running of schools, environmental conservation, rural > > education and health care. " > > > > I once read a speech Krishnamurti gave about the foundation, saying that he > > wanted it to publish his books and records of his talks and ensure that > > future generations could read his words. > > > > And if you ask me to prove it, I haven't kept a copy of the speech and don't > > really care much about it. > > > > geo> He dissolved the order of star. But there was a big amount of money and > > lands and other possessions that had to > > be taken care off, so a fundation was founded. Not to preserve his > > teachings. Why would there be a need to preserve words?? > > They are in books and tapes. Where is the need for a foundation? The issue > > was the amount of money involved, so the best thing was > > to open a foundation. > > But his words - of course - he must have known where of value. If you want > > people to read your words why wouldnt krishnamurti? > > or Nisargadatta? Only Dan? > > > > > > > Now, that is a laugh. > > > > > > geo > It would be a laugh if it was true. > > > > It's true. And so what? > > > > Life goes on, Geo. > > > > geo> No foundatons created by K to preserve his teachings.... > > It is just a natural need to " look down " upon others....part of life that > > goes on.... > > Oops. Did my halo slip? > > Don't get me wrong, though. I liked what he had to say. He spoke about thought in a way that's pretty similar to me. > > Maybe you should read more of him, and I'll start making sense to you. > > I don't look down on him just because he wanted a J.K. Foundation. > > Although his cousin U.G. thought that was pretty ironic for someone who said that the truth is a pathless land. > > Hey, maybe I'll even start a " Dan Foundation " at some point. > > I wouldn't put it past me. > > Want to contribute? > > I can give a lecture about how it's human nature to look down on someone else. > > And, how it can be fun to look down on someone whom you've decided is looking down on someone. > > Round and round it goes. > > Where it stops - the Shadow knows. > > Human nature? > > Can't live with it, can't live without it. > > Not as a human, anyway. > > -- Dan round and round it goes... ah now i know what " it " is in your world.. it's utter bullshit. ug krish. was NOT the cousin of jiddu k. either you are a con..or a jerk. don't get upset pal. have i ever said anything about this... except when I fantasized someone else to tell it to.. and an objectifiable person to speak it? and to which objectifiable and objectable and objecty thing.. could there be that gets subjected to this anyway. fuck man i'm cool with this groovy shit. LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > geo> You seem to be pushing this too focefully...I am feeling a bit weary to > > answer. > > Light is. > > Hey, it's only wearying if you think about it. > > Otherwise, light is. > > Light is light. why are you thinking about it then? do you think you thought that? are you weary? cherrio.. ..b b.b. lite Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > are " you " talkin' to " me " asshole? > > > > about nobody being here???? > > > > get the hell out of my dream loser. > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > .b b.b. > > Are you talking to me about getting out of your dream, loser? > > When you know nobody is here, asshole? > > ROFLYAO! > > .d .d .d you go girl! that's so way cool!..roflyao..like dig man..y instead of m. like cool dude..you/me..same same.. oh wow! like..so..you know..like ummm..buddhisticky and stuff. right on dannyo! LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 24, 2009 - dan330033 Nisargadatta Sunday, May 24, 2009 12:29 AM Re: no pattern P.S. P.S2 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > geo> You seem to be pushing this too focefully...I am feeling a bit weary > to > answer. > Light is. Hey, it's only wearying if you think about it. Otherwise, light is. Light is light. geo> Hey, stop thinking about it. Otherewise, ground is. Ground is ground. ....remember, that is how we started... We are full of prejudice Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 24, 2009 Don't get me wrong, though. I liked what he had to say. He spoke about thought in a way that's pretty similar to me.Maybe you should read more of him, and I'll start making sense to you. -dan I think, dan, as I said you have gone deeply into these stuff...but you dont read well, or....you see in your readings that what suits you. I want to go into this a bit because I find the issue interesting in itself. Krisnamurti would talk about the nature of thought somehow following a simple nomeclature. He would say that there are two kinds of thinking. The first is that kind of thinking that is a result and at the same time the originator of the inner psichological self. The other - to which he rarely referred to because it was not a big issue to him - is "technological thinking". The later is thought solving technical issues. By "technical" he meant all issues that did not have to nessessarily relate to the psichological center. To you - a you said - to recognise a street the inner self is nescessary. To K no. To geo, also no. To you any sense of time is related to a self. To K no. Time by the watch - as he called it - is not a problem at all. Of course it is not. You need that to go to work at the right time, but that doesnt mean that some inner sense of psichological center is invoved. Nonetheless you say K talked about thought as you do. -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 24, 2009 - geo Nisargadatta Sunday, May 24, 2009 9:37 AM Re: Re: no pattern P.S. P.S2 Don't get me wrong, though. I liked what he had to say. He spoke about thought in a way that's pretty similar to me. Maybe you should read more of him, and I'll start making sense to you. -dan I think, dan, as I said you have gone deeply into these stuff...but you dont read well, or....you see in your readings that what suits you. I want to go into this a bit because I find the issue interesting in itself. Krisnamurti would talk about the nature of thought somehow following a simple nomeclature. He would say that there are two kinds of thinking. The first is that kind of thinking that is a result and at the same time the originator of the inner psichological self. The other - to which he rarely referred to because it was not a big issue to him - is " technological thinking " . The later is thought solving technical issues. By " technical " he meant all issues that did not have to nessessarily relate to the psichological center. To you - a you said - to recognise a street the inner self is nescessary. To K no. To geo, also no. To you any sense of time is related to a self. To K no. Time by the watch - as he called it - is not a problem at all. Of course it is not. You need that to go to work at the right time, but that doesnt mean that some inner sense of psichological center is invoved. Nonetheless you say K talked about thought as you do. Something else. If you say that to recognise a chair, a table, a street.....time and space is involved so a self is also involved, how could you talk about, the light, or the ground, or whatever name we give to IT, if you are typing in a keyboard that you recognise, sitting in a chair you recognise, looking at a display you recognise, picking letters you recognise, and words you recognise. It is all coming from the inner center - the self.? -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > I don't look down on him just because he wanted a J.K. Foundation. > > Although his cousin U.G. thought that was pretty ironic for > someone who said that the truth is a pathless land. Seems pretty ironic here how much U.G. thought about no-thought. He's even (supposedly) recognized as a primary thinker in this area :=p. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > are " you " talkin' to " me " asshole? > > > > about nobody being here???? > > > > get the hell out of my dream loser. > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > .b b.b. > > Are you talking to me about getting out of your dream, loser? > > When you know nobody is here, asshole? > > ROFLYAO! > > .d .d .d .. . . . . . . . . buttheads. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > are " you " talkin' to " me " asshole? > > > > > > about nobody being here???? > > > > > > get the hell out of my dream loser. > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Are you talking to me about getting out of your dream, loser? > > > > When you know nobody is here, asshole? > > > > ROFLYAO! > > > > .d .d .d > > . . . . . . . . . buttheads. ........commentator. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > are " you " talkin' to " me " asshole? > > > > > > > > about nobody being here???? > > > > > > > > get the hell out of my dream loser. > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > Are you talking to me about getting out of your dream, loser? > > > > > > When you know nobody is here, asshole? > > > > > > ROFLYAO! > > > > > > .d .d .d > > > > . . . . . . . . . buttheads. > > > .......commentator. > > .b b.b. P*nis-breath :-D. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are " you " talkin' to " me " asshole? > > > > > > > > > > about nobody being here???? > > > > > > > > > > get the hell out of my dream loser. > > > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > Are you talking to me about getting out of your dream, loser? > > > > > > > > When you know nobody is here, asshole? > > > > > > > > ROFLYAO! > > > > > > > > .d .d .d > > > > > > . . . . . . . . . buttheads. > > > > > > .......commentator. > > > > .b b.b. > > P*nis-breath :-D. that sounds like a wish. sorry tim.. i don't play like that. maybe try dan. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
