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Clear& that parakiya is higher. Babaji think at a level of the rural inhabitants. It is necessary simplly to organize excellent(different) prasada for them they Become peace and will overlook(forget) all these problems. That only does not happen when devoted does not receive enough prasada . The schoolboys respected guru just also could by it take. It is necessary to arrange with him(it) a holiday Frequently and gradually would receive Babaji GM.

Hari bol, talasiga, you gandharva. Very Vell.

>You and I have gone through the infallibility question before, Puru Prabhu, and I am not really enthusiastic about going another round, but as I recall, we always come to one point of agreement, that Prabhupada was not infallible Please put(cause) examples of errors. **** >Actually, I am glad you made this post so I could agree with it pretty much totally. I get nervous when I am too radical -- I don't want to make any more enemies than I already have. The guru -- instills faith teaches a spiritual discipline Guru gives diksa and in it(her) all is concluded. Simplly if devoted is not successful or for him(it) is not present To trust, it(he) still will be long to be tormented. Even if Guru kanistha, but the diciple sincere, Krisna will transmit to such diciple all blessings through anyone Guru . The dependents search "uttama" Guru and as a rule fall on a fraud. It arranges with him(it) Krisna .

mahän prabhur vai puruñaù sattvasyaiña pravartakaù su-nirmaläm imäà präptim éçäno jyotir avyayaù “The Supreme Personality of Godhead is Mahäprabhu, who disseminates transcendental enlightenment. Just to be in touch with Him is to be in contact with the indestructible brahmajyoti.” (Çvetäçvatara Upaniñad 3.12) (3) From the Muëòaka Upaniñad (3.1.3): yadä paçyaù paçyate rukma-varëaà kartäram éçaà puruñaà brahma-yonim “One who sees that golden-colored Personality of Godhead, the Supreme Lord, the supreme actor, who is the source of the Supreme Brahman, is liberated tyaktvä sudustyaja-surepsita-räjya-lakñméà dharmiñöha ärya-vacasä yad agäd araëyam mäyä-mågaà dayitayepsitam anvadhävad vande mahä-puruña te caraëäravindam “We offer our respectful obeisances unto the lotus feet of the Lord, upon whom one should always meditate. He left His householder life, leaving aside His eternal consort, whom even the denizens of heaven adore. He went into the forest to deliver the fallen souls, who are put into illusion by material energy.” (Bhäg. 11.5.34) Prahläda said: itthaà nå-tiryag-åñi-deva-jhañävatärair lokän vibhävayasi haàsi jagat-pratépän dharmaà mahä-puruña päsi yugänuvåttaà channaù kalau yad abhavas tri-yugo ’tha sa tvam “My Lord, You kill all the enemies of the world in Your multifarious incarnations in the families of men, animals, demigods, åñis, aquatics and so on. Thus You illuminate the worlds with transcendental knowledge. In the Age of Kali, O Mahäpuruña, You sometimes appear in a covered incarnation. Therefore You are known as Tri-yuga [one who appears in only three yugas].” (Bhäg. 7.9.38) (5) From the Kåñëa-yämala-tantra: puëya-kñetre navadvépe bhaviñyämi çacé-sutaù. “I shall appear in the holy land of Navadvépa as the son of Çacédevé.” (6) From the Vàyu Puräëa: kalau saìkértanärambhe bhaviñyämi çacé-sutaù. “In the Age of Kali when the saìkértana movement is inaugurated, I shall descend as the son of Çacédevé.” (7) From the Brahma-yämala-tantra: atha vähaà dharädhäme bhütvä mad-bhakta-rüpa-dhåk mäyäyäà ca bhaviñyämi kalau saìkértanägame “Sometimes I personally appear on the surface of the world in the garb of a devotee. Specifically, I appear as the son of Çacé in Kali-yuga to start the saìkértana movement.” (8), From the Ananta-samhita: ya eva bhagavän kåñëo rädhikä-präëa-vallabhaù såñöy ädau sa jagan-nätho gaura äsén maheçvari “The Supreme Person, Çré Krisna Himself, who is the life of Çré Radharani and is the Lord of the universe in creation, maintenance and annihilation, appears as Gaura, O Maheçvaré.”

And prasad? It is obvious tantra!!! The entering in "race" gives rise tantra. Attempts to enjoy at a level of a spiritual world it tantra. The premature reference(reversal) to esoteric it tantra. And absence brahman it tantra. brahma bhuta prasannatma. But it is a low level, we it(him) already have passed, we go in race, all remaining is a pragmatism, fanaticism and for the beginners. Book Prabhupada for the beginners, now I! I shall devote you in secrets bhakti. Sweetness, sweetness .....

>I don't think I like the idea of what I wrote here posted in VNN Hari bol!

This is confirmed by Madhvacarya: pauëòrake narake caiva çälve kaàse ca rukmiëi äviñöäs tu harer bhaktäs tad-bhaktyä harim äpire Pauëòraka, Narakasura, Salva and Kamsa were all inimical toward the Supreme Personality of Godhead, but because all these kings constantly thought of Him, they achieved the same liberation—särüpya-mukti. But when Hiraëyakaçipu came to know of these events, he was very angry at his grandsons. “You have given up my association and have gone to worship Lord Brahmä,” he said, “and therefore I no longer have any affection for you. You have tried to save yourselves from the hands of the demigods, but I curse you in this way: Your father will take birth as Kaàsa and kill all of you because you will take birth as sons of Devaké.” Because of this curse, the grandsons of Hiraëyakaçipu had to take birth from the womb of Devaké and be killed by Kaàsa, although he was previously their father. This description is mentioned in the Hari-vaàça, Viñëu-parva, Second Chapter. According to the comments of the Vaiñëava-toñaëé, the son of Devaké known as Kértimän was the third incarnation. In his first incarnation he was known as Smara and was the son of Maréci, and later he became the son of Kälanemi. This is mentioned in the histories. An additional verse in this chapter of Çrémad-Bhägavatam is accepted by the Madhväcärya-sampradäya, represented by Vijayadhvaja Tértha. The verse is as follows: atha kaàsam upägamya närado brahma-nandanaù ekäntam upasaìgamya väkyam etad uväca ha atha—in this way; kaàsam—unto Kaàsa; upägamya—after going; näradaù—the great sage Närada; brahma-nandanaù—who is the son of Brahmä; ekäntam upasaìgamya—after going to a very solitary place; väkyam—the following instruction; etat—this; uväca—said; ha—in the past. Translation: “Thereafter, Närada, the mental son of Lord Brahmä, approached Kamsa and, in a very solitary place, informed him of the following news.” The great saint Närada descended from the heavenly planets to the forest of Mathura and sent his messenger to Kamsa. When the messenger approached Kaàsa and informed him of Närada’s arrival, Kaàsa, the leader of the asuras, was very happy and immediately came out of his palace to receive Närada, who was as bright as the sun, as powerful as fire, and free from all tinges of sinful activities. Kaàsa accepted Närada as his guest, offered him respectful obeisances and gave him a golden seat, brilliant like the sun. Närada was a friend of the King of heaven, and thus he told Kaàsa, the son of Ugrasena, “My dear hero, you have satisfied me with a proper reception, and therefore I shall tell you something secret and confidential. While I was coming here from Nandakänana through the Caitraratha forest, I saw a great meeting of the demigods, who followed me to Sumeru Parvata. We traveled through many holy places, and finally we saw the holy Ganges. While Lord Brahmä was consulting the other demigods at the top of Sumeru Hill, I was also present with my stringed instrument, the véëä. I shall tell you confidentially that the meeting was held just to plan to kill the asuras, headed by you. You have a younger sister named Devaké, and it is a fact that her eighth son will kill you.” (reference: Hari-vaàça, Viñëu-parva 1.2–16) The great Madhväcärya quotes the following relevant passages from the Skanda Puräëa: krisna-kämäs tadä gopyas tyaktvä dehaà divaà gatäù samyak kåñëaà para-brahma jïätvä kälät paraà yayuù “At that time the gopés, who desired Krisna, gave up their bodies and went to the spiritual world. Because they properly understood Kåñëa to be the Supreme Absolute Truth, they transcended the influence of time.” pürvaà ca jïäna-saàyuktäs taträpi präyaças tathä atas täsäà paraà brahma gatir äsén na kämataù “In their previous lives most of the gopés were already fully endowed with transcendental knowledge. It is because of this knowledge, not their lust, that they were able to attain the Supreme Brahman.” na tu jïänam åte mokño nänyaù pantheti hi çrutiù käma-yuktä tadä bhaktir jïänaà cäto vimukti-gäù “The Vedas declare that without spiritual knowledge there is no valid path to liberation. Because these apparently lusty gopés possessed devotion and knowledge, they achieved liberation.” ato mokñe ’pi täsäà ca kämo bhaktyänuvartate mukti-çabdodito caidya- prabhåtau dveña-bhäginaù “Thus even in their attainment of liberation, ‘lust’ followed as a manifestation of their pure devotion. After all, what we call liberation was experienced even by envious persons like Çiçupäla.” As it seems, while there will be attempts of direct penetration in race, especially mathurya, tatvavadi will prosper. It corresponds(meets) to a verse “In their previous lives most of the gopés were already fully endowed with transcendental knowledge. It is because of this knowledge, not their lust, that they were able to attain the Supreme Brahman.” na tu jïänam åte mokño nänyaù pantheti hi çrutiù käma-yuktä tadä bhaktir jïänaà cäto vimukti-gäù All who will tell on this verse, what in the past they already have reached(achieved) Supreme Brahman, it is possible to ask, and why you were not born gopi in games Krisna? On the one hand Goloka guard... I do not remember, but with another - caturviuha kailasa.

All stars are connected to the Sun. From the point of view of the Earth, Sun is near to the Earth and Pluto is not so far. But from the point of view Brahmaloka the Sun on top, and Pluto is much lower. From the point of view mistiks, the planets are not present, but there is a huge continent combining in itself simultaneously 128 spaces. Thus stars mirror light of the Sun. Simplly they mirror light of the Sun with miscellaneous force and it knocks down with sense, as moon mirrors it(him) poorly enough. Think once again, now all of us see as many planets, but really there is one continent and one Sun, Sun one, them not two. In one picture - one continent with one Sun, in another - "many" Suns there are a lot of planets and, but it is a lot of them not, this one Sun. So one Sun is mirrored in set of planets or stars. All categories Are divided on a I.Q., but not mechanicses. Brahmaloka the best planet by this installed, but planet Lord Siva, as best, in it is not present neither error nor inconsistency, it and is. But classically Brahmaloka is considered by best as to understand the device of a material nature it is possible with the help of intellect and Lord Brahma it(him) and it(he) represents and as as the creator and first living essence. But really many from demigods have the planets as supreme. This mind(wit) is so incomplete. It seems there are no inconsistencies what to worship Lord Visnu, but as assume that is Lord Caitanya, there are enough certificates on His(its) incoming, BEFORE HIS(ITS) INCOMING. Or put aside this question for what that time. Sense not what to test(experience) happiness. The spiritual life should be cultivated, the spiritual life it is very deep, it not that we simplly feel, leaning(basing) on what that temporary experience. The soul is cleared gradually. Sometimes it seems, that the spiritual life leaves or weakens, but it is all is deceptive. Actually, the solutions of mind(wit) have no any value, if the mind(wit) goes out of control, repeat a sacred name. This direct devotion, direct sensation, what some call, important certainly for, but it is impossible to do(make) from this a cult. The god decides all. The god is, not so It(him) is not present. Supreme solution always behind it(him). It means to trust in the God. Sastra is necessary what to contact to it(him), there is much Sastra - for those who in ignorance, for those who in passion and áëàãîñòè. They will contradict each other and it the atheists use. I do not understand, at what here Madhva, Lord Caitanya could come in anyone another parampara, any is absolutely not necessary to it(him) parampara. The order is simplly those. The description of greatness is for Lord Caitanya, but description mathurya is not present in the other place. In a spiritual world there is all and the sex is as, but there it absolutely another, there it Top, but here this bottom. If we confuse local sex with spiritual, it is bad, it is very bad. In a spiritual world the sex is not necessary, there all at one level - the sex or is simple a sight, this one and too. Well that you have left therefrom, that they do(make) and there is really tendency to squeeze out of the God maximal happiness, as here anybody about the friend and does not think, all such spiritual life is very popular. Hari bol, and last become first. kailasa

The sacred name not the gear, is all spiritual world. There there is a life and this life has laws. We simplly want as easier - scheme. Has made so - has received it, has made on the contrary - has received that. But Krisna it is the Person and it(he) more cleverly cleverest and that we would become and we are more restrained and more cleverly - His(its) devoted . It(he) also learns(teaches) us to mind - reason. When for me the ground leaves from under legs, I always know - " It Krisna ". In the beginning, that devoted would be approved, more and more less simplly, but if we really aim in the attitudes(relations), on everyone. Accomplished(perfect) devoted it is that, in my judgement, who not having communication(connection), knows that it is necessary to do(make), acts, applying reason and is hard in it. Most important, it to get under the control of internal energy, but it is impossible it to make, pragmatically, at first I shall find out all, and then I go. It is necessary to go, it and is sraddha. Simplly our intellect is very much limited, therefore occasionally we are lost. But so sraddha also gets stronger. Forces whence will undertake if not to do(make) of efforts? Whence will undertake sraddha, if all under the scheme? There is a good advice Bhaktivinoda Thakura - " take mind(wit) in a hand and Impact it(him) while it(he) will not ask mercy ", it works 100 %. Sivu, where you? I have joked, all is brahman.

The sacred name not the gear, is all spiritual world. There there is a life and this life has laws. We simplly want as easier - scheme. Has made so - has received it, has made on the contrary - has received that. But Krisna it is the Person and it(he) more cleverly cleverest and that we would become and we are more restrained and more cleverly - His(its) devoted . It(he) also learns(teaches) us to mind - reason. When for me the ground leaves from under legs, I always know - " It Krisna ". In the beginning, that devoted would be approved, more and more less simplly, but if we really aim in the attitudes(relations), on everyone. Accomplished(perfect) devoted it is that, in my judgement, who not having communication(connection), knows that it is necessary to do(make), acts, applying reason and is hard in it. Most important, it to get under the control of internal energy, but it is impossible it to make, pragmatically, at first I shall find out all, and then I go. It is necessary to go, it and is sraddha. Simplly our intellect is very much limited, therefore occasionally we are lost. But so sraddha also gets stronger. Forces whence will undertake if not to do(make) of efforts? Whence will undertake sraddha, if all under the scheme? There is a good advice Bhaktivinoda Thakura - " take mind(wit) in a hand and Impact it(him) while it(he) will not ask mercy ", it works 100 %. Sivu, where you? I have joked, all is brahman.

Sadana conducts to kripa. If the man to study, it(he) receives the diploma. There are people which did not study, but steel by the large scientists. But it does not mean, that for this purpose what to receive the diploma, it is better to not study. It is Example.

Sadana conducts to kripa. If the man to study, it(he) receives the diploma. There are people which did not study, but steel by the large scientists. But it does not mean, that for this purpose what to receive the diploma, it is better to not study. It is Example.

Hare Krisna, dasanudas. A thank for the prompt. I heard Govinda Svmi, me to like, as for Prabhupada, never grows old. The spiritual teacher already in Moscow, unfortunately has failed to go. >Kailasa if you catch this post "What, in your view is happening in Russia regarding Krsna consciousness, how is it being received and how much is it spreading?" I have heard mixed reports from different sources. I do not know about what it. I sometimes badly understand, though has improved Translator. Here is more and more less normal, for yours matha a good temple in St. Petersburg, I there was also many I know. In Siberia it is a lot of devoted in some cities on 400 devoted, all in Russia in ISCKON 10 000 devoted of which 5000 regular ïðèõîæàí(?). The temple in St. Petersburg ours has departed, but they continue to worship the God and we catch there occasionally. Certainly, up to a maintenance Sri Visnupada was even more, main(basic) there was, who that now in matha, whom maya Educates. Nevertheless Russian in depth of soul want to be arranged, therefore as there is a chance, they do(make) it and. In Moscow the Indian consulate can be will help to construct a temple, there now small temple and any more does not suffice it(him). Sri Visnupad knew that it happen, I have some obvious proofs, purely on last lecture in St. Petersburg and it there was last lecture in Russia, it(he) has told it almost direct, then I have told by all " Now I shall sign by all the books Prabhupada (it(he) never it earlier so did(made), on any to the requests.) And it(he) wrote to everyone a wish, and to some wrote such things, which were known only by(with) they. One devoted have deceived earlier in his(its) temple, Sri Visnupad has written to it(him) - " Look, that you would not deceive once again. " It that is to go on a cross. For marathon in Russia or Moscov have spread 35 Thousand of the books, not in quantity business, understandably, but nevertheless. In Russia ascetically and there are a lot of conditions for spiritual life. The danger is represented by(with) the communists and church, they almost have accepted the law against all religions except, But to act it(he) did not begin. If I have not answered, update your question please. P.S. Even if there will be 20 men, as it was earlier, all of us shall begin again and again will be 20 000 .

>God is not going to reveal himself at random to someone who has not been seeking or performed sadhana, or is not ripe, etc. If a person was seeking, it implies that he knows about God beforehand. How did he find out? Which is what my whole point is. Let nevertheless to add. Basically it so, but is set of examples of obtaining darsan without any reasons. For example history with the fisherman and Lord Caitanya and set others. Nevertheless God is the person and nobody can It(him) limit, certainly brahman as His(its) aspect, brahman is real, it is possible in a case with brahman that you write and is.

>God is not going to reveal himself at random to someone who has not been seeking or performed sadhana, or is not ripe, etc. If a person was seeking, it implies that he knows about God beforehand. How did he find out? Which is what my whole point is. Let nevertheless to add. Basically it so, but is set of examples of obtaining darsan without any reasons. For example history with the fisherman and Lord Caitanya and set others. Nevertheless God is the person and nobody can It(him) limit, certainly brahman as His(its) aspect, brahman is real, it is possible in a case with brahman that you write and is.

There is any judgement about kirtana Aindra Prabhu?

>But Tattvavâda holds that only devotion can get Mukthi and never dvesha or hatred for God, It materialistik to think that the God frees only those who worships it (him). Unfortunately to me is difficult (complex) to understand the majority of the text. Their philosophy following, here in a material world so much people is held parent and matrimonial attitudes (relations), but in a spiritual world it is not present. Is not present, is not present, is not present. Girlfriend for the God? Never! Only for me. Parent, matrimonial of the attitude (relation), it maya (just as for impersonalist the spiritual form (shape) it too maya), Actually it is a part of the concept or the rests envy.

This knowledge may lead one to the 4th stage of conscience, samadhi and its several gradations. This knowledge cannot make one attain the 5th stage of conscience, Bhagavan's aspect of the Ultimate Reality. To attain this platform Hari states... About 5 stages is written for tattva vadi. Let's allow 4 these releases, fifth love to the God. In any case the release follows before Love to the God. Brahma bhuta prasannatma...

This knowledge may lead one to the 4th stage of conscience, samadhi and its several gradations. This knowledge cannot make one attain the 5th stage of conscience, Bhagavan's aspect of the Ultimate Reality. To attain this platform Hari states... About 5 stages is written for tattva vadi. Let's allow 4 these releases, fifth love to the God. In any case the release follows before Love to the God. Brahma bhuta prasannatma...

This knowledge may lead one to the 4th stage of conscience, samadhi and its several gradations. This knowledge cannot make one attain the 5th stage of conscience, Bhagavan's aspect of the Ultimate Reality. To attain this platform Hari states... About 5 stages is written for tattva vadi. Let's allow 4 these releases, fifth love to the God. In any case the release follows before Love to the God. Brahma bhuta prasannatma...

This knowledge may lead one to the 4th stage of conscience, samadhi and its several gradations. This knowledge cannot make one attain the 5th stage of conscience, Bhagavan's aspect of the Ultimate Reality. To attain this platform Hari states... About 5 stages is written for tattva vadi. Let's allow 4 these releases, fifth love to the God. In any case the release follows before Love to the God. Brahma bhuta prasannatma...

There are no words in this verse which translate to "cause of all causes". The sanskrit words are vAsudevaha sarvamiti, which means "vAsudeva is everything (all this)". Hence the verse will translate to, Concept " vAsudeva is everything ", as includes concept - reason of all reasons. If vAsudeva is everything, it(he) and reason of any reasons.

There are no words in this verse which translate to "cause of all causes". The sanskrit words are vAsudevaha sarvamiti, which means "vAsudeva is everything (all this)". Hence the verse will translate to, Concept " vAsudeva is everything ", as includes concept - reason of all reasons. If vAsudeva is everything, it(he) and reason of any reasons.

From same chapter. O son of Partha, those who are not deluded, the great souls, are under the protection of the divine nature. They are fully engaged in devotional service because they know Me as the Supreme Personality of Godhead, original and inexhaustible. Other category Others, who engage in sacrifice by the cultivation of knowledge, worship the Supreme Lord as the one without a second, as diverse in many, and in the universal form. Majesty Mahäräja Parékñit, know that all that I have described in reply to your proper inquiry is just according to the version of the Vedas, and it is eternal truth. This was described personally by Lord Kåñëa unto Brahmä, with whom the Lord was satisfied upon being properly worshiped. >To attain this platform Hari states in Gitopanisada 18.66 that one should abandon all kind of dharma including this raja-yoga. Yes, it is the maximum doctrines and while the man can come on this stage, it(he) passes much that. I think this not mechanical leaving only. After many births and deaths, he who is actually in knowledge surrenders unto Me, knowing Me to be the cause of all causes and all that is. Such a great soul is very rare.

From same chapter. O son of Partha, those who are not deluded, the great souls, are under the protection of the divine nature. They are fully engaged in devotional service because they know Me as the Supreme Personality of Godhead, original and inexhaustible. Other category Others, who engage in sacrifice by the cultivation of knowledge, worship the Supreme Lord as the one without a second, as diverse in many, and in the universal form. Majesty Mahäräja Parékñit, know that all that I have described in reply to your proper inquiry is just according to the version of the Vedas, and it is eternal truth. This was described personally by Lord Kåñëa unto Brahmä, with whom the Lord was satisfied upon being properly worshiped. >To attain this platform Hari states in Gitopanisada 18.66 that one should abandon all kind of dharma including this raja-yoga. Yes, it is the maximum doctrines and while the man can come on this stage, it(he) passes much that. I think this not mechanical leaving only. After many births and deaths, he who is actually in knowledge surrenders unto Me, knowing Me to be the cause of all causes and all that is. Such a great soul is very rare.