jijaji

Exactly.....he was a successful AL CAPONE type WAR-LORD! I can't believe so many so-called followers of Sanatan Dharma are so wishy washy about these lunatics and their deceitful religion. Especially after what this lovely peaceful religion called Islam did to India and continues to do! India and all other countries who border Islamic/Arab countries know of their atrocities throughout history! ¸..· ´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- jijaji -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´* [This message has been edited by jijaji (edited 10-30-2001).]

The incidents narrated on the thread 'Prophet of Terror & the Religion of Peace' demonstrate the horrific depth of Mohammed's atrocities. Keep in mind that Mohammed is the Model of Good Islamic behaviour and you will realise how Islam advocates genocide in the name of religion. ¸..· ´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- jijaji -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´* [This message has been edited by jijaji (edited 10-30-2001).]

Prophet of Terror,the Religion of Peace, Part III -- In the Third Part of this series on Mohammed's life, I will be focusing on three events that define the nature of Islam's foundations. At this stage, Mohammed had gained power through his assassinations, looting, massacares and raping. The Jewish Tribes of Medinah had been inhabitants of that city for centuries before the Prophet decided to make it the headquarters of his criminal activities. All the Jews were becoming increasingly dissatisfied and angered at the deeds of the Muslims. The Jewish Tribes were peace-loving, hard working tradespeople, whose purpose in life was to earn a decent living through honest means and hard effort. They were perfectly content with the religion of their forefathers and had never anticipated that the man to whom they had given shelter so graciously, would turn into the power crazed monster who was now turning around to attack them. Mohammed was in the position to carry out his hidden ambitions, which became clear soon enough. With the utmost disregard for all human morality, ethics, or respect for human life, the Prophet of Islam systematically targeted and slaughtered the very Jews of Medinah who had helped him when everyone else in Arabia was kicking him like a dog. He was motivated by these primary reasons His fanatic greed for all the wealth that had been created by the blood, sweat and toil of the Jews His maniacal craving for power at any cost. The Jews were the biggest obstacle in his plan to subjugate all of Medinah, so they had to be removed, by any means possible His fear of all other religions. Mohammed was a delusional Megalomaniac, meaning he believed that he was the Supreme Ruler of the world. Anything that threatened this sick fantasy of his, had to be exterminated. Since, the religion of the Jews rejected his pathetic claims to Divine rule, they were the targeted victims in Medinah, just as the Polytheistic Arabs had been his victims in Mecca. The incidents narrated below demonstrate the horrific depth of Mohammed's atrocities. Keep in mind that Mohammed is the Model of Good Islamic behaviour and you will realise how Islam advocates genocide in the name of religion. 8) Murder of a Jewish Elder from Khaybar Late April 626 A.D. Place: The Jewish Oasis of Khyber Victims: Abu Rafi The Muslims who had murdered Kaab Ibn Al Ashraf the famous poet of the Banu-N-Nair (See Prophet of Terror & the "Religion of Peace" Part 2) were considered as heroes by Mohammed and his followers. Murderers were considered as ideal Muslims. A group of Muslims from the Khazraj Tribe decided to prove their loyalty to their Prophet by killing off a respectable member of the Jewish Community. Abu Rafi was an elderly man who had never done anything against Mohammed or the Muslims. He just happened to be the unfortunate target of Mohammed's plot to terrorize the Jews. The Prophet wanted to send out a message to the Jews, which spelt out clearly that Mohammed was in control of their lives. The "expedition" to kill the poor old helpless man had the specific blessings of the "Merciful" Prophet. About Six of them broke into the Old man's house in the middle of the night and slashed him to ribbons as he slept. The cowardly Muslims always assassinated people in this way, while the victim slept, obviously because they had neither the courage nor the strength to fight even a solitary, aged Jewish Man while he was awake. After their crime, the Muslims fled back home into the arms of their expectant Prophet. There was a fight among them as to who had actually killed Abu Rafi. At this, the Prophet smiled beatifically and started checking their swords. Finally, it was decided that the person who owned the sword which still had traces of food in it, was the winner. Apparently Abu Rafi had just finished his dinner before falling asleep and the sword had slashed through his stomach spilling its contents. Indeed how Benevolent was the Apostle of Peace! 9) Massacre, Rape and Plunder of Banu-L-Mustaliq December 626 A.D. Place: The well of Muraysi near Red Sea Victims: The Tribe of Banu-L-Mustaliq Mohammed attacked the Banu-L-Mustaliq because of their wealth. In a surprise raid, the Muslims drove them to the Sea. They slaughtered many members of the Banu-N-Mustaliq Tribe and looted away a booty of 2000 Camels, 5000 Sheep and 500 Women! 500 women were captured screaming and crying after they had watched their husbands and sons being slaughtered. The most beautiful captive was Juwayriyya, daughter of the chief of the Banu-L-Mustaliq. Mohammed snatched her to satisfy his own animal lust. The captured women were supposed to be returned by the Muslims upon payment of a ransom. But the night after the battle itself, Mohammed and his army raped each and every one of them. One of the men Abu Sa'id Khudri of Mohammed's army reported : "We were lusting after women and chastity had become too hard for us, but we wanted to get the ransom money for our prisoners. So we wanted to use the "Azl" (Coitus Interruptus- where the man withdraws before ejaculating)...We asked the Prophet about it and he said: "You are not under any obligation to stop yourselves from doing it like that.." Later on the women and children were given for ransom to their envoys. They all went away to their country and not One wanted to stay although they had the choice.." So the Great Prophet of Peace told his men it was perfectly FINE to rape women as long as you didn't ejaculate inside them (which made them pregnant). What supreme logic! Any human being with the slightest shred of morality has to be nauseated by this Man and the religion he preached. Mohammed, the supreme religious figurehead of Islam sanctions RAPE, pure and simple. Not only did the Muslims commit this horrifying crime, they decieved the Tribesmen into paying Ransom for their womenfolk, who only paid the money in a desperate attempt to save their women's honor. To call such a Prophet and his followers the epitome of Evil is probably an understatement. 10) Massacre of the Banu -Qurayza April-May 627 A.D. Place: Medinah Victims: The Last Jewish Tribe left in Medinah The Banu-Qurayza. By this time, Mohammed had murdered or driven out all of the Jewish Tribes of Medinah, except the Banu Qurayza. It was time to eliminate this last thorn in his flesh. The Banu Qurayza had been reluctant in helping Mohammed against the Quraysh. Conveniently once again, Mohammed claimed that he had divine knowledge about a conspiracy by the Banu-Qurayza to kill him. He beseiged their fortress for Twenty-Five days. When the starving Tribe surrendered, Mohammed forced an old man from their own Tribe to pronounce Mohammed's sentence. The sentence was death to every male member of the Tribe, Slavery for every woman and child and Plunder of all their property. The Prophet had an immense trench dug around the main market of Medinah. The men of the Banu Qurayza were rounded up & their hands twisted tightly behind them. Then one by one, they were shoved to the edge of the trench and forced to kneel. They were offered a last chance to convert to "The True Faith" and if they refused, had their heads chopped off. As soon as one head would roll off, the corpse would be kicked into the ditch, and so it went. By the time Dawn had colored the sky red in Medinah, hundreds of corpses piled up in a heap in a tangled cesspool of blood, hair and shreds of flesh. Despite the horrific end in front of their eyes, none of the Jews chose to convert to Islam and faced death valiantly. The blood of 900 innocent Jews stained Mohammed's hands on that black day. Their only crime was that they chose to retain their fundamental human right, of choosing their own God and the religion of their ancestors. Hysterical women & children screamed as they watched their fathers, husbands & sons die. The majority of them were raped savagely and then bundled off to be sold as "used goods". The Prophet had the husband of the Jewess Raihana Bint Amr hacked to pieces before her very eyes, hours after he had murdered her father. No doubt this was the Prophet's perverted version of a wedding present, because after these atrocities he raped the mortified girl and tried to force her to convert to Islam. Muslim historians still describe the savage rape of Raihana Bint Amr as her "willing submission to Islam and wifehood to the Prophet" Apparently according to them it is very natural to imagine that a woman who has just seen her husband, father, brothers and Tribe slaughtered violently before her very eyes, would CHOOSE to convert to the religion of the murderer and marry him! In actual fact Raihana REFUSED to convert to Islam and also refused to marry Mohammed the murderer of her family. He kept her as a lowly concubine all his life. So much for the "Apostle of Peace" and his unbounded RESPECT for women. Mohammed was nothing but a serial rapist, who acquired his victims by killing their families first. Allah as usual has provided yet another timeless Divine revelation which gives his Prophet the Right to rape and torture women of other religions. Koran 4:24 "And all married women are forbidden unto you EXCEPT those captives whom your right hand possesses. It is a decree of Allah for you. Lawful unto you are all beyond those mentioned, so that you seek them with your wealth in honest wedlock, not debauchery..." In short Allah the All Merciful is saying "Hey Muslims, it's a crime to go after married women, but IF they happen to be your captives (which obviously all the non-Muslim women were) feel free to indulge yourself in rape and sexual torture of them. "lawful unto you are all beyond those mentioned" Allah is making it LEGAL for Muslims to go ahead and rape Non-Muslim women by Divine Law! One shudders to imagine what kind of minds invented such utterly sadistic and disgusting ideas. Mohammed justified all his crimes against the Jews with more of Allah's revelations. Although the following Surahs were not revealed at the same time as the Massacre of Banu Quraizyah, they nevertheless give a general idea of the Prophet's views on Jews and why it is perfectly fine to kill, loot and rape them. Koran 5:51 O you who believe! Take not the Jews and Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is one of them. Lo allah guideth not wrongdoing folk. Koran 5:64 The Jews say: "Allah's hand is fettered." It is THEIR hands that are fettered and they are ACCURSED for saying so. Nay, but both his (Allah's) hands are spread in bounty. He bestoweth as he will. That which hath been revealed unto thee from thy Lord is certain to increase the contumacy and belief of many of them, And We have cast among them (The Jews) Enmity and Hatred till the day of Resurrection. As often as they light a fire for war, Allah extinguishes it! The above verses clearly demonstrate the Muslim's hatred of Jews as prescribed by their Prophet. They also expose the hollow claims of Muslims, about Islam being a peaceful religion that always co-existed with Judaism and Christanity. The innumerable, unwarranted massacres of Jews by Mohammed, tell this story in the clearest terms. These historical events form the basis of the Islamic code of behaviour. Therefore the recent genocide of Hindus, Christians and Jews by Muslims all over the world should come as no surprise whatsoever. Next week we will explore more such exploits of the "Apostle of Peace" and assess the depth of the darkness into which he had flung the Land of Arabia. The Works "The Glorious Quran" by Mohammed Marmaduke Pickthall, "The Meaning of the Glorious Quran" by Abdullah Yusuf Ali, "Mohammed" by Maxime Rodinson, and "Muhammad" by Martin Lings have been used to compose this article.

quote: Mohammed was gratified at the sight of his murdered victims. After the battle, he sent his followers to look for the corpse of Abu Jahal, one of the Meccans who had criticised him openly. When his corpse was found,they cut off the head and threw it down at Mohammed's feet. The "Apostle of peace" cried out in delirious joy, "Rejoice! Here lies the head of the enemy of Allah! Praise Allah, for there is no other but he!" The Prophet then ordered a great pit to be dug for the bodies of the innocents to be dumped. The Muslims then proceeded to hack the corpses limbs into pieces. As the bloodied mass of bodies was being thrown into the pit, a feverishly excited Mohammed shreiked, " O People of the Pit, have you found that what Allah threatened is true now? jijaji: This is NOT a saint of a Religion. It is AL CAPONE! ¸..· ´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- jijaji -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´* [This message has been edited by jijaji (edited 10-30-2001).]

Team 'find traces of Sumatran Yeti' BY MARK HENDERSON, SCIENCE CORRESPONDENT A TEAM of British amateur explorers may have found evidence for the existence of the Sumatran Yeti. Early analysis shows that samples of hair and footprints taken on the team’s trip to the Indonesian jungle do not appear to come from any known primate in the region. Some scientists believe that they may belong to the orang-pendek, or Sumatran Yeti, a creature first mentioned by Marco Polo after he visited the island in 1292. Clumps of hair are to be sent for DNA analysis in Oxford to determine whether they are those of a new species, which would most likely be a relative of the orang-utan or the gibbon. The orang-pendek is reputed to resemble the orang-utan. It has orange hair and stands about 5ft tall, but walks with a more upright stance and lives mainly on the ground. It is not supposed to be dangerous to people. Adam Davies, an Internet project manager from Manchester, led the expedition to the mountain rainforest near Gunung Kerinci, in western Sumatra. “We are getting indications from the scientists that we may be on to something, and I have no doubt myself that this creature exists,” he said. “We heard its calls, and we’ve discovered a trail that can’t be explained by anything else.” ¸..· ´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- jijaji -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´* [This message has been edited by jijaji (edited 10-29-2001).]

Gee whiz...what else! jijaji

Prophet of Terror & the Religion of Peace--Part II -- In the second part of this article, let us continue with the chornological account of how Prophet Mohammed perpetrated the Islamic ideals of violence, destruction and terror. Again, all of the incidents that I have cited are not only supported by famous historians and biographers but also by the ultimate testament to Mohammed's crimes-- The "Glorious" Koran. 5) Battle of Uhud 21 March, 625 A.D Place: Mount Uhud Victims: The Quraysh and their Allies The people of Mecca were outraged at the massacre of their kinsmen in the Battle of Badr by Mohammed and his army. They had to fight back in order to defend themselves, so they gathered up an army and set out on the march to Medinah. Unlike the Prophet's terrorist methods, they adhered to their precepts of honrable warfare and forewarned Mohammed of their advance. Mohammed set out with his motley crew of hundreds of murderers, rapists, robbers and sadists. When Mohammed tried forcing the Jews of Medinah to join him, they adamantly refused, knowing fully well the true character of the tyrant. Mohammed and his men camped on the slopes of Mount Uhud, above the camp of the Meccan Army. In his usual insidious manner, the Prophet was too cowardly to fight in an honorable manner and planned to attack before dawn as the Meccans were asleep. The Muslims were too incompetent to implement even this plan properly and ended up alerting the Meccans during the surprise attack. At this point the Meccans gathered up their weapons and engaged the Muslims in full combat. Mohammed as usual cowered in the background surrounded by his bunch of bodyguards. From time to time he would scream out "Who will become a martyr for Allah" and "Which of you will sell himself for us", exhorting his army with promises of paradise if they fought for him. The Muslims however were no match for the Meccans. Most of them started running for their lives by clambering up the sides of Mount Uhud, at which Mohammed started swearing like a mad man. Mohammed's uncle Hamzah was killed and when the Prophet started backing away in fear for his own life, a brave Meccan charged forward and struck him with a tremendous blow to the head and shoulder. At the sight of his own blood, Mohammed began screaming hysterically and had to be carried away by his bodyguards. It was only by a stroke of extreme luck that Mohammed survived. His Army was badly defeated and the people of Medinah started asking that if this man was indeed a Messenger of God, then why had God not given the Muslims victory. To make up for the extreme embarassment of this defeat Mohammed came up with more "divine revelations" that were obviously excuses for the thorough thrashing that his men and ego had suffered at Uhud. In addition to this, the furious Prophet came up with revelations that were to threaten the Muslims who had fled the battle and left the "Apostle of Peace" to fend for himself. The man was so obsessed with his own ego that he made any action that went against his power a crime. Any Muslim who did not treat Mohammed like God would be punished severely. The Third Chapter of the Koran is full of these references to the Battle of Uhud: Koran 3:140-1 "And if ye have recieved a blow, the disbelievers have recieved a blow the like thereof. These are the vicissitudes which We cause to follow one another for mankind, to the end that Allah may know those who believe and may choose witnesses from among you; and Allah loveth not wrong-doers. And that Allah may prove those who believe and may strike the disbelievers." Here Mohammed's Allah is conveniently making excuses for the severe defeat of the Muslims, by saying that, although the Muslims suffered huge losses, the Meccans also suffered losses. It looks like Mohammed's Allah cannot count, because the Meccan deaths numbered less than 20, wheras the number of Muslims killed amounted to over a hundred. In addition to this Allah conveniently bails out Mohammed yet again, by explaining away the total decimation of the Muslim Army, with the excuse that it was a "Trial" for the Muslims. This Surah also makes very clear the reason why Muslims everywhere bring nothing but death and destruction. The Allah of Islam is asking his followers to PROVE their loyalty by going out and killing unbelievers. And who were those Unbelievers? Any innocent person who did not agree to Mohammed's twisted version of religion. Therefore this Surah is simply legalizing MURDER and even giving it Divine Justification. A religion based on such principles can only be embraced by people of the most inhumane, cruel and barbarous nature. Koran 3:153 "When you climbed the hill and paid no heed, while the Messenger (Mohammed) in your rear was calling you to fight. Therefore he rewarded you grief for his grief that he might teach you, not to sorrow either for that which you missed or for that which befell you. Allah is informed of what you do." Here Mohammed is lashing out at the Muslims who ditched him and ran up Mount Uhud for their lives. Mohammed is so deluded with his sense of self-importance, that in this Surah, he tells the Muslims that deserting "the Messenger" (Mohammed) is the same as deserting Allah! The "Great Prophet" is equating himself with the Supreme power itself. Allah is so furious at this crime of deserting the great Mohammed that he punished the Muslims by killing off so many of their kinsmen. This is indeed the most despicable form of blackmail that Mohammed used upon his followers. In short, they were told that anyone who doesn't protect Mohammed with his own life, will be punished by Allah in the form of his family and tribesmen being killed by divine will. Here Mohammed is hitting two birds with one stone, in one single gesture, he threatens his followers with blackmail and removes the blame for the massive defeat, by claiming that Muslims died because Allah was punishing the ones who deserted Mohammed and NOT because the Meccans were far superior in warfare. There can be nothing more insidious than such type of deceit. 6) Murder of a Jewish poet Late March 625 A.D. Place: Fortress of Banu-N-Nadir, outside Medinah Victims: Kaab Ibn Al' Ashraf Among the Jewish tribe of Banu-N-Nadir, was an eminent poet by the name of Kaab Ibn Al' Ashraf. He was an extremely famous and cultured poet who was considered a genius of verse.He had composed a lament about the Quray@#%$es who had been so unjustly massacred in the battle of Badr. One day the Prophet proclaimed in his usual sweet manner " Who will rid me of the dog Kaab Ibn Al Ashraf?". A certain Muhammad Bin Maslama replied that he would do it, adding "We shall have to tell lies to do it". Inevitably the Prophet immediately gave the divine authority to lie as necessary. Muhammad Maslama bribed the foster brother of Kaab, a man called Silkan, who was a Muslim. The following night Kaab was visited by his loving foster brother and spent a pleasant evening reciting poetry. Needless to say, after dark, Kaab was dragged out of his bed screaming, and stabbed repeatedly by Muhammad Maslama, Silkan and two other devout Muslims, in full view of his young wife to be. Indeed what a great example of kindness and tolerance, was the Prophet of Islam! 7) Invasion of Banu-N-Nadir May-June 625 A.D Place: Fortress of Banu-N-Nadir, outside Medinah Victims: The entire Jewish tribe of Banu-N-Nadir The Jewish Tribe of Banu-N-Nadir was outraged at the assassination of their greatest poet Kaab Ibn Al' Ashraf. The fact that one of the greatest literary figures of their Tribe had been mercilessly murdered, simply because he wrote some words that criticised Mohammed, was a cause of immense rage. Even then they were gracious enough to lend money to Mohammed when he came begging at their doors for financing of loans to be paid back. Mohammed the power crazed maniac however had many ulterior motives. The sight of the wealth possessed by the Banu- N-Nadir whipped up a frenzy of jealousy inside him. In his envious hatred, he devised a diabolical plot to get rid of the Tribe and rob them of their wealth. The Prophet claimed that Allah himself had come down and revealed that the Tribe of Banu-N-Nadir hated him and were hatching a conspiracy to assasinate the Prophet. The Nadir were amazed when out of the blue a Muslim messenger arrived at their oasis with the message from the "Holy Apostle of Peace" himself. The message was worded in the usual brutal manner: "Leave MY city and live here no longer after the treason which you have plotted against me." The Nadir were outraged, but being a peace loving people they decided the best thing to do was to shut themselves up in their fortress and prepare to defend themselves. Immediately Mohammed surrounded them with his Army of murderers and sat down outside in the familiar wooden hut surrounded by his usual bunch of bodyguards. When the Nadir made no move to fight, the "All Benevolent Angel of Mercy" started cutting down every single palm tree in the oasis. In a desert environment like Arabia, this act was equivalent to Mass Murder, considering how hard it was to grow food. The Nadir could not bear to see their oasis destroyed so mercilessly and came out to surrender. Mohammed who was still cowering behind his bodyguards screamed out : "Leave this place, you have your lives" The Peace loving Tribe which had carefully tended their land and made it the oasis that it was, were thrown out at sword point, and stripped of all their belongings. They had to flee for their lives to Khayber another Jewish settlement, which in future course would also be destroyed by the "Apostle of Peace". All the rich booty and land was grabbed by the savage Muslims, but the largest amount of land and most of the loot went as always to the "Epitome of Justice" Prophet Mohammed. As usual a stream of Divine revelations followed. Koran 59:2-5 "He it is who hath caused those of the People of the Scripture (Jews) who disbelieved to go forth from their homes unto the first exile. You deemed not that they would go forth, while they deemed that their strongholds would protect them from Allah. But Allah reached them from a place whereof they recked not and cast terror in their hearts so that they ruined their houses with their own hands and the hands of the believers. So learn a lesson, O you who have eyes! "And if Allah had not decreed migration for them, he verily would have punished them in this world and theirs in the hereafter is the punishment of the Fire!" "That is because they were opposed to Allah and his Messenger ; and whoso is opposed to Allah (for him) verily Allah is stern in reprisal." "Whatsoever palm-trees you cut down or left standing on their roots, it was by Allah's leave, in order that He might confound the Evil-Livers." Here the Great Allah again comes to Mohammed's rescue and declares that ALL the crimes and atrocities that were committed against the innocent Tribe of Banu-N-Nadir were justified by the Divine word of the "All Merciful Allah". Not only that but Allah decrees that the Jews DESERVED to be thrown out of their homeland, simply because: They were not Muslim They were opposed to Mohammed (The fact that he mercilessly assassinated their innocent Poet for daring to criticise him may have had something to do with it!) They were on Prime land and had a huge amount of wealth which the Prophet of Greed wanted. Over and above this, cutting down Palm Trees was considered a capital crime by the Arabs, so Mohammed had to have Allah give him a nice and tidy excuse for having committed this atrocity. Lastly the Prophet is making it very clear here as to who is the boss. If anyone opposed Mohammed, it meant he opposed Allah and all Muslims had to KILL anyone who opposed Allah. So the Final Equation remained the same Oppose Mohammed= Oppose Allah ==> Get murdered by Muslims . Again we have come a full circle to the fundamental and central guiding principles of Islam : Intolerance, Hatred, Murder and Brutality. Stay tuned for the next elaboration on how Mohammed spread the "Light of Peace" by murdering, torturing, looting and raping Non-Muslims in Arabia ; A Holy Example which to this day is followed piously by Devout Muslims all over the World. The Works "The Glorious Quran" by Mohammed Marmaduke Pickthall, "The Meaning of the Glorious Quran" by Abdullah Yusuf Ali, "Mohammed" by Maxime Rodinson, and "Muhammad" by Martin Lings have been used to compose this article. If you enjoyed this article or wish to discuss it, please visit: http://www.hinduunity.org

quote: Mohammed was gratified at the sight of his murdered victims. After the battle, he sent his followers to look for the corpse of Abu Jahal, one of the Meccans who had criticised him openly. When his corpse was found,they cut off the head and threw it down at Mohammed's feet. The "Apostle of peace" cried out in delirious joy, "Rejoice! Here lies the head of the enemy of Allah! Praise Allah, for there is no other but he!" The Prophet then ordered a great pit to be dug for the bodies of the innocents to be dumped. The Muslims then proceeded to hack the corpses limbs into pieces. As the bloodied mass of bodies was being thrown into the pit, a feverishly excited Mohammed shreiked, " O People of the Pit, have you found that what Allah threatened is true now? For I have found that what my Lord promised was true! Rejoice All Muslims!" One of the prisoners taken was the defiant Al Nadr Ibn al Harith, who had earlier taken Muhammad's challenge of telling better stories than him. Muhammad ordered Ali to strike off Nadr's head in his presence, so he could watch and exult in the pleasure of beheading the man who had insulted him. Another prisoner Uqba ibn Abi Muait was decapitated in front of the Prophet. Before being killed the prisoner cried out pitifully "O Prophet, who will look after my children if I should die?" The "Great Prophet of the Religion of Peace" coldly spat out "Hellfire", as the blade came down and spattered his clothes with Uqba's blood. jijaji: I renounce Islam as a bonefide religion! ¸..· ´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- jijaji -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´* [This message has been edited by jijaji (edited 10-29-2001).]

Please see my posting of 'Prophet of Terror & the Religion of Peace' ¸..· ´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- jijaji -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´* [This message has been edited by jijaji (edited 10-29-2001).]

Prophet of Terror & the Religion of Peace--Part I -- Mohammed, Prophet of Islam is known as the "Apostle of Peace" by Muslims. Nothing can be further from the truth. This article is just one of a series that I will be publishing regarding sadistic cruel nature of Prophet Mohammed. In this article I will prove once again, that Mohammed was in fact a terrorist, criminal and murderer whose entire life was based on victimizing innocents and indulging in mindless violence, carnage and massacre. He was a man who destroyed peace wherever he went, and in its place brought terror, carnage and death. When Mohammed first started screaming from the rooftops that he alone had the divine word of God, the people of Mecca ignored him. However, when he started insulting and defaming the religion of the peace loving Meccans, they couldn't take it anymore and tried persuading him to stop. Mohammed the coward was too scared of the growing hostility against him and instead of calling upon his Allah to strike down the Meccans, he crept out one night and fled for his life. Ever since that incident, Mohammed was determined to take revenge on the Meccans. He escaped to Medinah, which had a sizeable Jewish population, and started plotting his revenge with a small gang of criminals. This was the beginning of Mohammed's trail of violence, hatred and bloodshed that would soon destroy the once flourishing culture of Arabia. The story has been documented in detail by his biographers, - surprise raids on trade caravans and tribal settlements, the use of plunder thus obtained for recruiting an ever growing army of greedy desperados, assassinations of opponents, blackmail, expulsion and massacre of the Jews of Medinah, attack and enslavement of the Jews of Khayber, rape of women and children, sale of these victims after rape, trickery, treachery and bribery employed to their fullest extent to grow the numbers of his religion Islam which ironically was supposed to mean "Peace"! He organised no less than 86 expeditions, 26 of which he led himself. The motives of the converts to Islam was never in any doubt. As D.S. Margoliouth states in his book Muhammad and the rise of Islam "Of any moralising or demoralising effect that Muhammad's teaching had upon his followers we cannot say with precision. When he was at the head of the Robber community, it is probable that the demoralising influence began to be felt; it was then that men who had never broken an oath learnt that they might evade their obligations, and that men to whom the blood of their clan had been as their own, began to shed it with impunity in the "cause of god". And that lying and treachery in the cause of Islam received divine approval. It was then too that Moslems became distinguished by the obscenity of their language. It was then too, that the coveting of goods and wives possessed by Non-muslims was avowed without discouragement from the Prophet...." The details of all his criminal onslaughts in the form of battles and assasinations are chronicled in this article in a chronological manner. One should note that everytime the "Apostle of Peace" committed one of his criminal onslaughts, he always justified the crimes by quickly claiming a "divine revelation" which conveniently removed the blame from his bloodied hands. These convenient Suras are detailed immediately below the description of the incident. 1) Massacre of unarmed merchants during sacred month Late January(Rejeb), 623 A.D. Place: Nakhla Victims: 4 Merchants from Quraysh tribe of Mecca, the Tribe to which Mohammed himself belonged Four UNARMED merchants were travelling to Mecca to sell their goods consisting of raisins, honey and animal skins. It was the holy month of Rejeb which was considered sacred for trade in Arabia. It was a point of honor that any form of warfare or violence was strictly forbidden in this month. Mohammed's gang attacked the helpless men from behind and stabbed two of them to death. They plundered all the goods as booty and Mohammed got one fifths of the share. This shows the utter lack of morals or scruples on Mohammed's part. The Prophet of Islam did not possess a shred of pity or kindness, or the slightest sense of justice. He cold-bloodedly murdered two innocent people who had never done him any harm and did not even know him! All this was done in a month that the Prophet himself declared was a sacred month in which no warfare should take place. Mohammed was obviously motivated by nothing but hatred and greed. Conveniently divine revelations came down from Allah that absolved him of all the guilt. Koran 2:216 "Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that you hate a thing which is good for you and it may happen that you love a thing which is bad for you. Allah knoweth, you knew not." Here Mohammed is completely removing all blame from himself, for having started the fighting. The most insidious and devilish implication of this verse is that Allah is completely justifying Mohammed's murder of the innocent Meccans. Over and above this Mohammed is conveniently implying that warfare is hateful to him, but he participated in it because it was ordained by Allah! What sacrifices the "Apostle of Peace" had to make! Koran 2:217 "They question you (O Mohammed) with regard to warfare in the sacred month. Say: Warfare therein is a great transgression but to turn men from the way of Allah and to disbelive in Him and the inviolable place of worship and to expel its people thence is a greater transgression, for persecution is worse than killing" Here Allah is clearly saying that to kill or create warfare in the sacred month of Rejeb is a very grave offence, but to justify his own violation of Allah's rules, Mohammed comes up with the idea that since the people killed were unbelievers, it was perfectly okay! The reason given for the horrific murder of the innocent Meccans, is the fact that they did not believe in Mohammed's version of God. How much more tolerant and kind could the "Great Prophet" be! 2) Slaughter of Meccans who came to defend their caravans March (Ramadan) 17, 623 A.D Place: The well of Badr Victims: 70 merchants from Quraysh Tribe of Mecca, The Quraysh army which came to defend them The merchandise being carried by this caravan was worth more than 50,000 Gold Dinars. Mohammed ganged up all the criminals of Medina and set out to raid the caravan with 300 men. The Meccans got word of the raid and sent out an army to protect the caravan. Throughout the entire battle Mohammad cowered in a hut which his men made for him. There he cried and prayed with feverish anxiety. At one point he came out of the hut and threw pebbles in the enemy's direction, screaming "Let evil look on your faces!" and "By him who holds my soul in his hands, anyone who fights for me today will go to paradise!" The Muslims killed over two hundred and took seventy prisoners. All seventy of the prisoners were ransomed, and any prisoner who did not fetch a ransom had his head chopped off. Mohammed was gratified at the sight of his murdered victims. After the battle, he sent his followers to look for the corpse of Abu Jahal, one of the Meccans who had criticised him openly. When his corpse was found,they cut off the head and threw it down at Mohammed's feet. The "Apostle of peace" cried out in delirious joy, "Rejoice! Here lies the head of the enemy of Allah! Praise Allah, for there is no other but he!" The Prophet then ordered a great pit to be dug for the bodies of the innocents to be dumped. The Muslims then proceeded to hack the corpses limbs into pieces. As the bloodied mass of bodies was being thrown into the pit, a feverishly excited Mohammed shreiked, " O People of the Pit, have you found that what Allah threatened is true now? For I have found that what my Lord promised was true! Rejoice All Muslims!" One of the prisoners taken was the defiant Al Nadr Ibn al Harith, who had earlier taken Muhammad's challenge of telling better stories than him. Muhammad ordered Ali to strike off Nadr's head in his presence, so he could watch and exult in the pleasure of beheading the man who had insulted him. Another prisoner Uqba ibn Abi Muait was decapitated in front of the Prophet. Before being killed the prisoner cried out pitifully "O Prophet, who will look after my children if I should die?" The "Great Prophet of the Religion of Peace" coldly spat out "Hellfire", as the blade came down and spattered his clothes with Uqba's blood. This time Mohammed needed a revelation that would not only absolve him of all the guilt for murdering so many innocent people, but also give him the "divine" right to get a huge share of the plundered booty. Quite a few revelations magically appeared after the battle of Badr. Koran 8:65 "O Prophet exhort the believers to fight. If there be of you 20 steadfast,they will overcome 200 and if there be of you a 100, they shall overcome a 1000, because the disbelievers are a folk without intelligence" This Sura clearly exposes Islam to be a religion that not only encourages violence but actually makes it a sacred duty for Muslims to kill anyone who does not believe in the Muslim version of religion. Not only is the "All forgiving Allah" exhorting his followers to kill anyone who is not Muslim, but he is also saying that all non-Muslims are so stupid that they will be unable to defend themselves and therfore deserve death! Koran 8:67-68 "It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he hath made slaughter in the land. You desire the lure of this world and Allah desires for you the hereafter and Allah is Mighty, Wise.. Now enjoy what you have won as lawful and good and keep your duty to Allah. Lo! Allah is forgiving, merciful." This verse is in reference to the prisoners that Mohammed held for ransom after the battle. Allah the "Merciful" is saying that they should all have been killed! In addition, Allah is conveniently commenting that whatever loot Mohammed has plundered is "lawful and good" because it was done in service to Allah. So murder, rape, plunder and destruction are all perfectly fine with Allah as long as they are done in the name of Islam! Mohammed is also insidiously making himself seem very kind for having spared the lives of the prisoners, when in fact he only let them live so he could get more money from the Ransom for them. In today's world this is called "Terrorism" of the worst kind. 3) Assasination of poets who criticised Mohammed's murderous ways Late March-April, 623 A.D Place: Medinah Victims: Two of the most famous poets of Medinah, who had the courage to criticise the murderous actions of Mohammed and his gang After the battle of Badr, the people of Medinah were horrified that they had given refuge to such a blatant criminal and his followers in their city. Many began protesting the presence of such violent and murderous people in their city. In a free society like Pre-Islamic Arabia, the poets acted as society's conscience and were free to criticise, satirize and examine the actions of people. The two most famous poets of this kind were Abu 'Afak; an extremely old and respected poet and Asma bint Marwan; a young mother with the gift of superb verse. Muhammad was enraged at their criticism. When he heard the verses composed by Asma Bint Marwan he was infuriated and screamed aloud, "Will no one rid me of this daughter of Marwan!" That very night a gang of Muslims set out to do the dirty deed. They broke into the poets' house. She was lying in in her bedroom suckling her newborn child, while her other small children slept nearby. The Muslims tore the newborn infant off her breast and hacked it to pieces before her very eyes. They then made her watch the murder of all four of her children, before raping and then stabbing her repeatedly to death. After the murder when the Muslims went to inform the Prophet, he said "You have done a service to Allah and his Messenger, her life was not worth even two goats!" A month later the distinguished and highly respected Abu Afak, who was over a hundred years old and reknowned for his sense of fairness, was killed brutally in the same manner as he slept. Once again the Prophet had commented that morning "Who will avenge me on this scoundrel!" This shows us exactly how much the tolerant and peace loving Prophet respected life. Muslims claim that Mohammed was extremely gentle and loved children. Indeed the horrifying way he had Asma Bint Marwan's five infants slaughtered certainly attests to this "loving" side of the Prophet. 4) The Siege of the Banu Qaynuqa April, 623 A.D Place: Medinah Victims: The Jewish Tribe of Banu Qaynuqa In order to get full control of Medinah, Mohammed needed to get rid of all his opponents. The strongest of these opponents was Abdallah Ibn Ubayy, a powerful chief who was allied with the Jewish Tribe of Banu Qaynuqa. This tribe was also the weakest, because they were made up of craftsmen, in particular goldsmiths. By attacking them, Mohammed knew he could plunder a huge amount of wealth and weaken Ibn Ubayy. Mohammed needed an excuse to attack them so he made a girl married to one of his followers, pretend that she had been teased by the Jews. The Muslims blockaded the fort of the Banu Qaynuqa for fifteen days until the starving Jews surrendered. Immediately, the Prophet was ready to kill them all, but Ibn Ubayy seized hold of Mohammed and protested. Mohammed's face became black with rage as he shouted "Let go of me", but Ibn Ubayy was adamant and shouted back "No, by God, I will not let you go until you deal kindly with my allies. 400 men without armour and 300 with, who have always supported me against enemies. And you want to slay them all in one morning! By God, If I were in your place I would fear a reversal of fortune" At this threat, the cowardly Mohammed turned pale, as he realised that all the people of Medinah were against him. He hit Ibn Ubayy on the face and ordered that the Jews be kicked out of their own homes. All their property was seized and looted, many of the prettiest women were taken as prisoners to become sex-slaves. Mohammed kept one-fifths of the enormous booty for himself. This is the way he repayed the kindness of the Jews of Medina, who had given him shelter and a refuge, when Mohammed had run away from Mecca in fear. The revelations in the Eighth Sura of the Koran were clearly in reference to the Banu Qaynuqa and anyone who opposed the Muslims. (Koran 8:55-57) "Lo, the worst of beasts in Allah's sight are the ungrateful who will not believe." "Those of them with whom you made a treaty and then at every opportunity they break their treaty and they keep not duty to Allah, If you come on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, so that they may remember." Here Mohammed's acts of planned terrorism against the Jewish Tribe is justified by Allah, because according to the "Merciful" Allah, Non-Muslims are the worst of BEASTS! So it is perfectly all right to murder, rape, torture and pillage the non-believers! Not only that but Allah is advising Mohammed and the Muslims that when anyone protests against the injustices committed by Muslims, the Muslims should make sure and deal with them with such violence, that it will strike fear among anyone who may think of supporting dissent. This proves that the Koran is nothing but a political manual for controlling people with terror. Not even the fascist armies of Hitler engineered such devilish ideas. The above are just a few of the incidents that demonstrate the intolerant and merciless nature of the inhuman acts committed by Mohammed and the Muslims. Further articles in this series will reveal more of Prophet Mohammed's heinous, sadistic and cruel crimes against humanity. Note: Works of Abdullah Yusuf Ali, Muhammed Marmaduke Pickthall, Rodinson, Martin Lings have been used in this article. -- copy and pasted from : www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/ If you enjoyed this article or wish to discuss it, please visit: http://www.hinduunity.org

......LOL LOL LOL All I wanted was a little break from jijaji now and then with majic..what's the harm? me melvin that is too much for even me prabhuji..! By the way..this article 'The Mind of The Fanatic' is really good and it is NOT attacking ...to Raganugas and true Seekers of Truth from whatever Path. ¸..· ´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- jijaji -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´* [This message has been edited by jijaji (edited 10-29-2001).]

quote: Sometimes, the only thing that separates the fanatic next door from the fanatic terrorist are the number of followers, amount of money, and availability of military hardware. majic: Good point because most fanatics are brewing up ways and means to control those who are not part of their 'Reality Tunnel'... If money and weapons come into their possession they see opportunity to have their desires of Global Domination fullfilled. So a mild mannered run of the mill fanatic could suddenly become a dangerous threat if given the proper means to carry out fundamentalistic insanity.. ¸..· ´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- jijaji -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´* [This message has been edited by jijaji (edited 10-29-2001).]

jnds took away my majic name.... come on jnds prabhu ..me want to be majic too! pretty please...everyone else has a couple of names except me? all my love & bliss, ¸..· ´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- jijaji -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´* [This message has been edited by jijaji (edited 10-29-2001).]

Continued from page 2 Perhaps it is more important to recall here that the orientation of particular emperors and kings varied considerably with regard to religious tolerance. While the use of the sword is widely acknowledged in the spread of Islam, it is also true that some of the Muslim emperors were extremely tolerant. The most outstanding case is that of the great Moghul emperor Akbar (1556-1605) who respected and promoted the substantial religious diversity of the Indian subcontinent as is evident from the following enactment. No man should be interfered with on account of religion, and anyone [is] to be allowed to go over to a religion as he pleases.... If a Hindu, when a child or otherwise, had been made a Muslim against his will, he is to be allowed, if he pleased, to go back to the religion of his fathers.(9) It is of particular interest to note here that when Akbar enacted the above, the inquisitions were running riot in Christian Europe. My point is, historical data can correct several of the contemporary stereotypes regarding religious violence and tolerance. Both states and nations are products of historical evolution and both have existed more or less independently in the long span of human history. They came to be formally linked when the Treaty of Westphalia was signed in 1648. But till the middle of the 20th century, three hundred years after the Treaty and at the point when colonialism ended, the phenomenon of the nation-state was largely confined to Western Europe. The fundamental objective of the nation-state was to establish coterminality between polity and culture; and the project to homogenize the European nation-state was the source of much violence, including religious violence. This then is the third historical moment under reference. It is no accident that Europe (save a few pockets -- Turkey, Bosnia) is not only Christian, but the European states are predominantly populated by the people of one or other confession, Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant. And given the ideological consensus regarding the construction of nation-states, European state-making moved in the direction of homogeneity through deliberate attempts "to homogenize the culture of subject population through linguistic, religious and ... educational standardization".(10) The European model of the nation-state has been endorsed by religious nationalists in most parts of the world because it facilitates the establishment of political hegemony by the religious majority, and the cultural assimilation of the religious minorities into the "nation". Admittedly the cold-war era, which was also the period of rapid spread of the idea of the nation-state, saw much violence based on religion. Homogenization liquidates the cultural identity of peoples and nations, and this is a violent process. The project of homogenization, the inevitable corollary of the construction of nation-states, although not a Christian idea, was practised in countries and religions populated by Christians. Inevitably religion and violence became linked in peoples' cognitive map.

Continued from page 1 Retreatist colonialism produced two dichotomies -- the primitive and the modern as well as the Orient and the Occident. The "Dark Continent", "primitive" Africa, was also inhabited by peoples "without history" and "without religion". Therefore it was necessary to convert them to Christianity in large numbers. But unlike in the New World stiff opposition from Islam had to be faced, often resulting in violent clashes between the two "imported" religions. Today, the leading religion of 50 percent of the African states is Christianity, the other dominant religion being Islam; thus the native religions were relegated to the background thanks to Christian colonialism and the Muslim conquest of Africa. The Orient-Occident dichotomy was couched in different terms; but in fact there were three orients as against one occident.(6) The Orient was home to three great civilizations -- Chinese, Indian and Egyptian -- all of whom have had not only a long history, but also developed religions. The Far Orient, the Chinese civilizational region, had several native developed religions -- Confucianism, Shintoism, Taoism and Buddhism had a strong presence there. The Middle Orient, the Indian civilizational region, was home to several world religions -- Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism and Sikhism. As for the Near Orient, the Egyptian civilizational region, Islam, one of the religions of the Book, was the dominant religion. Therefore, the scope of Christianization of these regions, through colonialism, was limited. In fact, there is only one Christian majority country in Asia -- the Philippines. However, Muslim conquest turned the Indian subcontinent into the biggest Islamic congregation in the world. Even after the division of the sub-continent into three -- India, Pakistan and Bangladesh -- India's Muslim population is 120 million, second only to Indonesia, the most populous Muslim country in the world. Both Islamic conquest and Christian colonialism injected violence in the Orient, particularly in the Near Orient and the Middle Orient. The strategy of Christianization varied between different colonial powers. Generally speaking the Catholic countries and churches tried for -- and often succeeded in -- the near-total conversion of the colonized people. Religious violence was a necessary companion of this process. I have already referred to the fact that the Philippines is the only Christian majority country in Asia, Christians counting 94 percent. Perhaps it is no accident that the Philippines was a colony of Catholic Spain during the colonial times. The Latinization policy(7) of Portuguese colonizers in India, particularly in Goa, created conflicts between caste Hindus and Indian Christians as well as between the different segments within the Indian Christian community. In contrast to this was the British policy in India as is evident from the 1858 proclamation of the Queen: "Firmly relying ourselves on the truth of Christianity, and acknowledging with gratitude the solace of religion, We disclaim alike the right and the desire to impose Our convictions on any of Our subjects."(8) The point is that it would be utterly wrong to generalize about religious violence inflicted by colonial regimes as they varied substantially in their policies towards particular colonial regions.

Religion as Source of Violence. Author/s: T.K. Oommen Issue: April, 2001 A Sociological Perspective Let me begin with two short observations. Firstly, the "ought-is" distinction is seminal in that there is a dialectical relationship between them. If in the past religion was seen in conjunction with several other elements in society, there is an increasing tendency to recognize the differentiation between these elements and to endorse the division of labour between them in contemporary times. However, this differentiation is not accepted by all religious communities. When religion is seen as independent of states, nations and ethnies(1) it is rarely a distinct source of violence. Secondly, there is a widespread belief today that some religious communities are less violent while others are virulent in their violence. Part of the problem in this perception lies in "contemporization" of social reality by a "retreat into the present" (to recall the evocative phrase of Norbert Elias)(2) which creates an abysmal wedge between the past and the present. If the first issue can be located in value orientations and structural connectivity, the second is to be understood in terms of historicity. In analyzing religion as source of violence, I shall discuss these three dimensions but in the reverse order. Historicity Four historical moments may be identified to locate the historicity of religious violence.(3) The first of these moments is associated with the diffusion of world religions during the 4th to 7th centuries of the Christian era. Christianity became the dominant religion of Europe not only through the displacement of the religions native to that continent, but also through the new faith's officialization in the Roman empire. Christianity also spread to Ethiopia in Africa and Kerala in South Asia during this period. Hinduism spread to the Indonesian archipelago. Buddhism went to China, Korea and Japan from India. By the beginning of the 8th century CE, Islam captured Spain and the Arab world, and went to Sind in the Indian sub-continent. Much violence was involved in this transcontinental spread of the world religions. While it is tree that much of the pre-colonial spread of religions was associated with political conquest and physical violence, this was not uniformly so. For example, violence was not a characteristic feature in the spread of Hinduism. Christianity scarcely used any violence in transplanting it to Kerala. Ashoka, moved by the carnage he witnessed in his victory in the Kalinga war, convened to Buddhism and propagated that religion through peaceful missionary propaganda. And not only that. Ashoka averred through one of his edicts (now numbered XII) thus: "... a man must not do reverence to his own sect or disparage that of another man without reason. Deprecation should be for specific reason only, because the sects of other people all deserve reverence for one reason or another."(4) That is, Ashoka did not encourage blind veneration of one's religion, or irrational disrespect of others' religion. The second historical moment, namely colonialism, was characterized by racial superiority ("the white man's burden") and cultural conquest (the civilizing mission) in addition to political and economic domination, and was charged with religious violence. However, the intensity and nature of violence varied between the different denominations and at the different colonial sites. Here it is necessary to distinguish between two types of colonialism -- replicative and retreatist.(5) Replicative colonialism produced the New World consisting of the Americas, Australia and New Zealand. The European missionaries did not even recognize the primal vision of the First Nations of the New World as religion; indeed, the original inhabitants of the New World were not even treated as full-fledged human beings. Both the Christian church and the colonial state were at their worst in inflicting violence in the New World: not only were the First Nations not allowed the right to define themselves in terms of their cultural identity, but they were physically liquidated. Genocide and culturocide (the systematic liquidation of culture) co-existed.

Yes..I believe the mentality to try and convert all to to one religion as one's religious duty is fanatical and indicitive of a deep misunderstanding of spirituality. We see the extreme culmination of this in Islamic Jihad who will kill you if they have to to MAKE you a part of their insane faith! ¸..· ´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- jijaji -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´* [This message has been edited by jijaji (edited 10-29-2001).]

Islam is the most violent and intolerant faith that has ever been presented to mankind. Those, who hold this view usually quote, The Disputer, LVIII: 20, which declares that non-Muslims are Satan's party but the Muslims are God's party. Thus, it is the most sacred duty of the Muslims to annihilate the non-Muslims or at least reduce them to the status of tributaries. On the contrary, the enlightened Muslims protest against this non-Muslim attitude: they quote Sufism to prove that Islam is an international ambassador of love. Of course, there is some truth in it, but who deserves the credit - Islam or Hinduism? Basing his judgement on the historical and scriptural evidence, Anwar Shaikh concludes that what is called Sufism or Tasawwuf, collides with the basic principles of Islam, but it does conform to the Vedic doctrines. Therefore, Sufism, broadly speaking, is an offshoot of Hindutva. Then, why is it considered an extension of Islam? It is a pity that the people of India have forgotten all about their ancestral glory.

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quote: Therefore, conversion implies destruction of this entire culture. majic: never thought of it like that before jijaji! ¸..· ´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- jijaji -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´* [This message has been edited by jijaji (edited 10-29-2001).]

ha ha ha ....... ¸..· ´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- jijaji -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´* [This message has been edited by jijaji (edited 10-29-2001).]

just having a little fun jnds..no malice intended as you can see by the postings. I just thought everyone else here seems to have an extra name why not the jajwala? I promise I will not misuse! ¸..· ´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- jijaji -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´* [This message has been edited by jijaji (edited 10-29-2001).]

quote: It is as clear as can be that the Quran advocates violence and has formed the basis for many wars and acts of terrorism. Yet interestingly, many muslims strongly maintain that the Quran's teachings are peaceful. jijaji: only those who want to assimilate into the modern world...they are in great denial of e this BLOODTHIRSTY DESERT RELIGION! ------------------ ¸..· ´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- jijaji -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´*

indeed.... ¸..· ´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- jijaji -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´* [This message has been edited by jijaji (edited 10-28-2001).]