Vigraha

The mahat-tattva dark cloud is where Maha-Vishnu is in a deep dreaming state; His dreams hold mostly the mistaken dream realities and desires of the marginal beings while in their nitya-baddha lower self. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:" /><o:p></o:p> <FONT color=black>The nitya baddha sub-conscious condition of the marginal living entity is the rebellious dreams, thoughts, desires and impersonal escape of just a few (25%) of those eternal nitya-siddha-svarupa or atma-vigraha devotees. Many of the Vaishnava sects other than ISKCON have all become polluted with Impersonalism that denies the unfathomable greatness of Lord Krishna’s inconceivable PERSONAL creation. Such believers in those sects foolishly and hysterically claim they originate from the Brahmajyoti ot tatastha when in fact it is their nitya-baddha consciousness that originates from the Impersonal Brahmajyoti. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> We are all persons first as a perpetual nitya-siddha body (marginal living entity) with an eternal svarupa that always exists even if we cannot remember that ffice:smarttags" All impersonalism (tatastha-consciousness) has its beginning in the creation originally due to ones nitya-baddha fallen consciousness, which is the lower 'bodiless' self of ones perpetual authentic nitya-siddha-svarupa body as already explained. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Srila Prabhupada - is very clear. “Originally we have a direct personal relationship with KRISHNA in Goloka<FONT][color= /> Srila Prabhupada – “Due to this long period of time it is sometimes said that we are ever-conditioned. But his long duration of time becomes very insignificant when one actually comes to Krsna consciousness". <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Srila Prabhupada - "Just like in a dream we are thinking very long time, but as soon as we awaken we look at our watch and see it has been a moment only". <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Srila Prabhupada - "Just like with Krsna's friends, they were kept asleep for one year by Brahma, but when they woke up and Krsna returned before them, they considered that only a moment had passed”. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Srila Prabhupada – “So this dreaming conditionis called non-liberated life, and this is just like a dream. Although in this material calculation it is a long, long period, as soon as we come to Krsna consciousness then this period is considered as a second".<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Srila Prabhupada -"He may come down to become a germ, but then he may rise up to Krsna consciousness and go back to home, back to Godhead. This is the position”. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Srila Prabhupada - "So when I say Yes, there is eternal lila with Krsna, that means on the evidence of Jaya-Vijaya. Unless one develops full devotional service to Krsna, he can go only up to Brahmasayujya but falls down. But after millions and millions of years of keeping oneself away from the lila of the Lord, when one comes BACK to Krsna consciousness, this period becomes insignificant, just like dreaming.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Bhativinode Thakur -“However, because of contact with matter, the imprisoned jiva-tattva or jiva-s’akti extended consciousness looses the memory of their original spiritual rasa bodily form in Vaikuntha. . . Material rasas are perverted reflections of the nitya-siddha original spiritual rasas.” Prema-pradipa, p. 83<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Ramanuja Acharya also vigorously argues that the spiritual perpetual rasa body of the soul has always existed and that upon liberation, one once again attains that which has always existed. (Vs. 4.4.1),<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Srila Prabhupada - “We wanted to give up <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comKrishna</st1:place>’s marginal potency or living entities all have a two-fold aspect to their existence.<o:p></o:p> [color=black><o:p></o:p> <FONT]</o:p> <font color=" /><st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place>.” There is no mention of originally being in the Brahmajyoti, tatastha or the Viraja River in the mahat-tattva outside the dreams of Maha-Vishnu, or being always conditioned, or being in anything less than a fully developed perpetually vigraha devotee in a relationship with Krishna that is eternally there in Goloka- Vrndavana/Vaikuntha, even if we presently are unaware of this fact due to our secondary dreaming consciousness (conditioned soul or jiva consciousness) restricted by the division of time and space within the mahat-tattva cloud.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Srila Prabhupada -“Originally we have a direct personal relationship with <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place> in the spiritual world. But when we want to take <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place>’s position, we therefore put ourselves into a dreaming statedue to our non-Krishna conscious choices”. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Srila Prabhupada -"In this dreaming state, after we enter the mahat-tattva dream of Maha-Vishnu, we forget our actual positionand thus are free to act out our desire in our attempts to become the supreme enjoyer". <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> These mistaken self centered choices or non Krishna conscious dreams, are characterized as being “fallen” from our position in the spiritual world, but Srila Prabhupada explains that in Vaikuntha reality, beyond mundane time and space that governs the mahat-tattva, we are not fallen (here Srila Prabhupada is refering to our perpetual svarupa body), We are simply in a non-Krishna Conscious dreaming condition (nitya-baddha lower self) that cannot stay in Goloka. Technically such consciousness has never existed in Goloka and intead originates from our individual tatastha consciousness that is an extention of our marginal identity. <o:p></o:p> Srila Prabhupada -"Because the living being can appear either in matter or in spirit, the jiva is called the marginal potency" CC Adi 5.41 pp. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Srila Prabhupada explains that ‘marginal’ means the tendency of the living being to reject the sanction of the Lord and act independently within the material creation or mahat-tattva”. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Clearly explained here by Srila Prabhupada is how the non-Krishna conscious dreams that are sub-consciously separate from ones nitya-siddha-svarupa rasa body. are then transferred to the ‘creation for the dreaming’ known as the mahat-tattva.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> This seconday (conditioned) extension of the nitya-siddha is known as the nitya-baddha condition of restricted awareness, manifesting in a dreaming condition of non-Krishna conscious thoughts and desires that is called the jiva-s’akti, jiva-tattva, jiva-bhutah and about 170 other jiva definitions depending on ones secondary conscious dreaming condition.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Srila Prabhupada “Svapna-drastur ivanjasa. The very exact “Svapna-drastur ivanjasa. The very exact example is given, svapna-drastuh. Just like a man seeing dream: “Oh, there is tiger, tiger, tiger, tiger! Save me!”<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Srila Prabhupada - “He is crying. Another man is, “Where is tiger? Why you are crying? Where is tiger?” But he, in the dream, he is actually feeling: “The tiger has attacked me.” Therefore this example is given, na ghatetartha-sambandhah. There cannot be any meaning of this relationship except like a man dreaming and he is creating a situation”. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Srila Prabhupada is the personification of all Shastra He's life is the living Bhagavatam <o:p></o:p> The highest and original constitution of the marginal energy is bodily form known as vigraha that is the embodiment of sat (eternity) cit (full knowledge) ananda (always blissful) in the service of <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place>. This bodily condition of the marginal beings is the full expression of their potential that is called - <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Nitya-siddha-svarupa One’s Krishna Conscious eternally positioned unique original personal bodily relationship with Krishna as an eternal servant that is without end in Goloka-Vrndavana, even if one has sub-consciously turned their back on Krishna to experience existence through their lower nitya-baddha sub-conscious self transmitted as non-Krishna conscious desires or thoughts, that are clothed by ethereal and eventually biological bodies by Maha-Vishnu within His mahat-tattva, ones original svarupa body is always in Goloka. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> On the other hand the marginal nitya-siddha devotional beings also have a secondary condition or nitya-baddha consciousness that can enter the dark cloud (mahat-tattva) situated in one corner of the Spiritual Sky or Brahmajyoti. The reason why the lower self or nitya-baddha consciousness enters the mahat-tattva or material creation is due to their desires not to be with <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place> as their devotional form or nitya-siddha-svarupa body. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Such disloyal dreams, thoughts and desires are projected or transmitted as a ‘secondary consciousness’ (nitya-baddha) to that dark perishable cloud or mahat-tattva temporary material manifestation where they are then given counterfeit bodily material forms (ethereal and biological vessels) by the creator of that perishable place of the dreaming, Maha-Vishnu.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> The difference between the nitya-siddda-svarupa body and the nitya-baddha sub-conscious state is the nitya-siddha is perpetually a transcendental <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place> Conscious bodily form where as the nitya-baddha consciousness has no bodily form until it is provided one by Maha-Vishnu within the mahat-tattva.

The occurrence of divided time only exists in the perishable mahat-tattva due to the phenomenon of past, present and future that cretes the phenomenon of impermanance, decay and forgettfulness where as only the present exists in perpetual Goloka-Vrndavana or Vaikuntha<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:" /><o:p></o:p> Srila Prabhupada - "Just like in a dream we are thinking very long time, but as soon as we awaken we look at our watch and see it has been a moment only". <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Therefore no one says ones svarupa body is sleeping in Goloka. Please understand that once and for all. Because of the absence of the time factor there is no loss of consciousness in Goloka once one’s nitya-baddha consciousness is dissipated and one has returned to the awareness of their nitya-siddha-svarupa body that is perpetually serving Krishna</I>) one realizes herself as the endless nitya-siddha-svarupa-rasa body and the so-called fall was only an illusion...it never happened. "Never happened" because there is no past tense as we know it.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> The jiva-tattva or nitya-baddha consciousness (the soul) is not moving from one body to the next. <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comKrishna</st1:place>. Once one has returned (<i>in reality one never really left but instead chose to forget <st1:place w:st=" /><st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place> says the soul is immovable in the Gita. The only movement there is, is one of nitya-baddha jiva-s’akti consciousness and not movement as understood and experienced under the influence of material time and space. So from ones marginal svarupa body in Goloka- Vrndavana or Vaikuntha, the marginal nitya-baddha may manifest due to ones choice to ‘dream’ in a separated state from Krishna however, in reality one is never separated from their nitya-siddha-svarupa body and ones rasa with Krishna is not interrupted, they only dream for a moment they are separated, not even a moment. That condition of sub-conscious restricted awareness is called the nitya-baddha conscious condition that enters the mahat-tattva to become covered by the illusion of moving between birth & death, heaven and hell, past & future where that ‘moment’ for the nitya-siddha can be trillians upon trillions of years to the nitya-baddha condition of consciousness.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Srila Prabhupada - Originally we have a direct personal relationship with <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place> in the spiritual world. But when we want to take <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place>’s position, we therefore put ourselves into a dreaming state due to our non-Krishna conscious choices. In this dreaming state after we enter the mahat-tattva dream of Maha-Vishnu that is a real but perishable reality in one corner of the Spiritual Sky or creation, we forget our actual position and thus are free to act out our desire in our attempts to become the supreme enjoyer. These mistaken self centered choices or non Krishna conscious dreams, are characterized as being “fallen” from our position in the spiritual world, but Srila Prabhupada explains that in Vaikuntha reality, beyond mundane time and space that governs the mahat-tattva, we are not fallen, We are simply in a dreaming. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Our perpetual nitya-siddha-svarupa or sat-cit-ananda-vigraha Krishna Conscious rasa body does not fall and can never fall from Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha. We simply choose to do ‘our own thing’ and knowingly turn our back on Krishna and the perpetual body we serve Krishna as because of the attachment to pursue our no-Krishna conscious dreams, desires and thoughts that put us in the centre instead of Krishna.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> It is there within that mahat-tattva cloud, the projected secondary consciousness, emanating from ones original perpetual body, which can never fall from Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha, becomes contained in ethereal and biological vessels in a phenomenon of time and space (past, present, future, decay and impermanence) that does not exist in the perpetual Spiritual Sky surrounding the mahat-tattva. Such temporary ethereal and biological bodies are provided by the presiding Deity of the mahat-tattva, Maha-Vishnu and guided (constantly tempted through the mahat-tattva by Maya-Devs’ s’akti, the wife of Maha-Vishnu.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> The mahat-tattva cloud is a real manifestation like the other three quarters of creation or Spiritual Sky however, unlike the perpetual Spiritual Sky; the mahat-tattva or ‘cloud of the dreaming’ is temporary.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> In other words the mahat-tattva is simply the place where the marginal living entities go when they choose to have their ‘moment of self interested glory’ of non-Krishna conscious dreaming however, that ‘moment’ can appear to be trillions of years, then on return to ones rasa body, it will be as if they never left due to the eternal 'presents' that only exists in Goloka. Uitimately it is what ever Krishna wants, He is not bound by anything.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> There is no beginning or end to the creation so in the face of eternity, time has no meaning because no one can measure something that has no beginning or end like all marginal living entities or nitya-siddha-svarupa devotee’s that are said to be emanating from Lord Krishna’s transcendental Vigraha body but have factually always exited without beginning as the Bhagavad Gita as it is tells us. All atma-vigraha ‘souls’ therefore are never created nor do ‘jiva-souls’ appear from the Impersonal Brahmajyoti as some learned Vaishnava scholars, gurus and sanyasis believe. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Every living marginal entity has a perpetual nitya-siddha-svarupa body that they have always been for eternity without beginning and without end. Most of the Vedas therefore are dealing with the jiva-s’akti, jiva-tattva and jiva-tatastha which is seeing everything from the viewpoint of the secondary nitya-baddha consciousness and not the nitya-siddha perpetual body. In other words, modern day 21<SUP>st</SUP> century Vaishnavism is seeing everything from the viewpoint of the nitya-baddha consciousness which is only ‘consciousness’ and has no form until given ethereal and biological bodies or vessels by Maha-Vishnu. The description of sparks in the effulgence or a particle or atom in a ray of light is correctly describing the nitya-baddha consciousness in the mahat-tattva and the nitya-baddha jiva-tatastha consciousness in the surrounding Impersonal aspect of the Brahmajyoti that separates Vaikuntha from the maha-tattva. The other 75% of creation is full of nitya-siddha devotee of whom some are simultaneously in the mahat-tattva as a bodiless conscious projection.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Srila Prabhupada – “The original home of the living entity and the Supreme Personality of Godhead is the spiritual world. In the Spiritual world both the Lord and the living entities live together very peacefully. Since the living entity remains engaged in the service of the Lord, they both share a blissful life in the spiritual world. However, when the living entity wants to enjoy himself, he falls down into the material world. Even while he is in that position, the Lord remains with him as the Supersoul, his intimate friend. Because of his forgetfulness, the living entity does not know that the Supreme Lord is accompanying him as the Supersoul. In this way the living entity remains conditioned in each and every millennium. Although the Lord follows him as a friend, the living entity, because of forgetful material existence, does not recognize Him”.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> “However, because of contact with matter, the imprisoned soul loses the memory of his original spiritual form in Vaikuntha. . . material rasas are perverted reflections of the soul's original spiritual rasas.” Prema-pradipa, p. 83<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> “Only the purified soul can attain the perfection of associating with the Personality of Godhead in complete bliss and satisfaction in his constitutional state. Whoever is able to renovate such devotional perfection is never again attracted by this material world, and he never returns.” Srimad Bhagavatam 2.2.31<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> “It is the jivas who are the attendants in His Sports. They become attached to matter, having deviated from their own essential nature as the result of their desire for enjoyment. But when again the soul . . . gains true wisdom of the transcendental region of God . . . he begins to get back his pure essential nature . . .” Sri Chaitanya’s Teachings, page 323.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> “By the grace of <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place>, we have complete freedom. Because the Lord is kind to us, we can live anywhere, either in the spiritual sky or in the material sky, upon whichever planet we desire. However, misuse of this freedom causes one to fall down into the material world and suffer the threefold miseries of conditioned life. The living of a miserable life in the material world by dint of the soul's choice is nicely illustrated by <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Milton</st1:City></st1:place> in Paradise Lost. Similarly, by choice, the soul can regain paradise and return home, back to Godhead.” Caitanya-caritamrita, Adi Lila 5.22, Purport<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Devotee: Well, I believe you once said that once a conditioned soul becomes perfected and gets out of the material world and he goes to Krishnaloka, there’s no possibility of falling back.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Prabhupada: No! There is possibility. . . However generally once one has experienced the misery of the material world, he keeps perfect intelligence to not misuse his free will again. It is these experienced souls who will never return or fall from Vaikuntha. Lecture on Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, Adi-lila 7.108 <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">San Francisco</st1:City></st1:place>, February 18, 1967<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Acyutananda: .....But in the Gita, it says, "Once coming there, he never returns."<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Prabhupada: But if he likes, he can return.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Acyutananda: He can return.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Prabhupada: That independence has to be accepted, little independence. We can misuse that. Krsna-bahirmukha hana bhoga vancha kare. That misuse is the cause of our falldown. Morning Walk--February 19, 1976, Mayapura<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Srila Prabhupada then cites the verse from Prema-Vivarta explaining the cause of the living beings original sub-conscious fall to the material world:<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Acyutananda: What is the first birth? What is the cause of the first birth?<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Prabhupada: Yes. That is stated in the Prema-Vivarta:<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> krsna-bahirmukha hana bhoga vancha kare<o:p></o:p> nikata-stha maya tare japatiya dhare<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> “As soon as... We are eternal servant of <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place>. As soon as we want to become master, that is the beginning of our first birth in the material world. We have got independence. Because, Krishna says, mamaivamso jiva bhutah—we are part and parcel of Krishna—so <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place> has got full independence, but we are minute. Therefore, we have got minute independence. Our business is to serve <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place>, but as soon as we give up this idea, we want to become master. That is the beginning of our material birth. Lecture on Srimad-Bhagavatam 5.5.2 <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Hyderabad</st1:place></st1:City>, April 11, 1975<o:p></o:p> What does marginal mean?<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> To create the reality of free will and loving devotion that never ever remains stagnant in bliss or just being ‘assimilated’ into the Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha realm as a loving android of Krishna’s, the marginal living entities are all created with two-fold levels of consciousness. The nitya-siddha-svarupa consciousness is in the form of an eternal rasa Krishna Conscious body where the choice is always there to forever increase ones devotion to Krishna however, to make that choice factual and a genuine exchange of love rather than a mechanical mindless response, there is also the ability in all marginal living entities to choose their non-Krishna lower nitya-baddha condition of their marginal personality. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> This is why all living marginal entities in Vaikuntha can ‘consciously’ fall down from their perpetual body in Goloka-Vrndavana or Vaikuntha simply because of the way Krishna created all marginal living beings - with free will that makes ones love for Krishna real instead of mechanical.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> After first choosing to extend ones nitya-baddha consciousness from their marginal nitya-siddha rasa body and 'sub-consciously' enter the mahat-tattva and then eventually surrender to a 'so called' devotee of Krishna with the desire to be assimilated into a state of total inactive bliss by becoming an atom at Krishnas' lotus feet, is not only selfish, but is another aspect of Impersonalism!! Such desires are denying ones original rasa body that is always fully active in the devotional service to <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place>. The nitya-siddha-svarupa body is the original position of all marginal living entities from whence they can choose to serve the rebellious desires or the lower sub-conscious nitya-baddha dreaming consciousness that all marginal living entities are endowed with as already explained. The fact is the only way to enter the mahat-tattva or material creation is to ‘consciously’ fall down from ones svarupa body in the Goloka-Vrndavana or Vaikuntha portion of the Spiritual Sky. The mahat-tattva is simply a place where the lower dreaming nitya-baddha conscious condition of the marginal living entity goes when they choose to ignore <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place>.<o:p></o:p>

THE DREAMING MAHA-VISHNU AND HIS MAHAT-TATTVA UNIVERSES Maha-Vishnu above is lying down resting and dreaming within His mahat-tattva creation. His dreams facilities the dreaming marginal living entities when they choose to ignore their perpetual Krishna Conscious nitya-siddha-svarupa body, therefore, more or less, their separation from Krishna is compared to a dream that is temporary but very real. In this way the marginal beings withdrawals deep within their own sub-consciousness that takes them to the mahat-tattva creation of Maha-Vishnu and forgets their perpetual nitya-siddha-svarupa-rasa beautiful body that is eternally serving <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comKrishna</st1:place> is compared to a dream that is temporary but very real. In this way the marginal beings withdrawals deep within their own nitya-baddha sub-consciousness that takes them to the mahat-tattva creation of Maha-Vishnu and forgets their perpetual nitya-siddha-svarupa-rasa beautiful body that is eternally serving <st1:place w:st=" /><st1:place w:st="on">Krishna is compared to a dream that is temporary but very real. In this way the marginal beings withdrawals deep within their own sub-consciousness that takes them to the mahat-tattva creation of Maha-Vishnu and forgets their perpetual nitya-siddha-svarupa-rasa beautiful body that is eternally serving <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place>.</st1:place> <st1:place w:st="on"></st1:place>· Nitya means always eternally positioned. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:" /><o:p></o:p> · Siddha means the imperishable perfection of ones marginal constitution or eternally liberated. <o:p></o:p> · Svarupa means one's perpetual own form, shape or body. <o:p></o:p> · Rasa means the best, finest and most important part of ones existence which one performs eternally from the highest position of selfless service to Krishna and His devotees, this essence of ones marginal constitution that allows the freedom of choice also eternally enriches ones rasa relationship with Krishna to reciprocate and never ever stands still. <o:p></o:p> The freedom of choice <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place> gives all marginal beings allows them to surrender unconditionally over and over again by eternally expanding their loving devotion moods within unlimited relationships in an atmosphere that is eternally in the present, beyond the mundane time that can only exist in the mahat-tattva. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> This is the absolute reason <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place> gives choose to the marginal living entities. Unfortunately the ability in choosing how to please Krishna can also be misused which in a sad way gives authenticity to <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place> granting free will in the first place to all His marginal living entities. To choose either ones full potential nitya-siddha-svarupa original self, or choose the sub-conscious secondary nitya-baddha non-Krishna conscious dream state. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> The marginal living entities position of ‘choice’ allows one to therefore increase ones love for Krishna or forget Krishna and ones svarupa body altogether and instead takes shelter in the indefinite or shadowy nitya-baddha sub-conscious dreaming condition that can only exist as the jiva-tattva etc within the mahat-tattva.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> · Nitya means always eternally positioned. <o:p></o:p> · Baddha means eternally conditioned by NON-Krishna conscious desires and dreams of greatness that can only be fulfilled within the mahat-tattva (material creation) by Maha-Vishnu. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> The nitya-siddha-svarupa body and the nitya-baddha lower sub-conscious dreaming condition are part and parcel of all individual marginal beings or emanations radiating from <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place> as His Brahmajyoti effulgence. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Just like every body has a shadow, every marginal nitya-siddha-svarupa devotee has a marginal nitya-baddha-sub-conscious condition only activated into existence by choosing to no longer stay with <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place>. It’s just like darkness is initiated by choosing to turn of the light in your house. This simply means all marginal living entities have the choice to accept whom they really are in the light serving <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place> as their nitya-siddha svarupa body or rasa body, or drift off into an egocentric dream of darkness where they ignore that eternal svarupa body. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> The nitya-baddha dreaming consciousness that enters the mahat-tattva or material creation emanates from 25% of the marginal nitya-siddha beings in Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha who choose to ignore their nitya-siddha higher perpetual Krishna Conscious bodily self and opt for the sub-conscious nitya-baddha lower dreams created by their non-Krishna Conscious desires. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> In this way ones dreaming consciousness enters the dark cloud in the Spiritual Sky called the mahat-tattva. It must be made clear that all ‘life’ that enters the mahat-tattva originates from Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha, such ‘life’ that enters the mahat-tattva is the nitya-baddha consciousness (jiva-tattva, jiva-s’akti/ jiva-bhutah, jiva-prakriti etc) that originates as the sub-conscious condition of the nitya-siddha-svarupa devotees or marginal living entities. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> In other words the mahat-tattva is simply the place where the marginal living entities go when they choose to have their ‘moment’ of non-Krishna conscious dreaming however thet ‘moment’ can appear to be trillions of years, then on return to ones rasa body, it will be as if they never left. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> In this manner the marginal living entities in their nitya-baddha dreaming spasmodic consciousness, enters the dreams of Maha-Vishnu within the perishable and impermanent mahat-tattva and in the process, forgets the higher self of their marginal personality (nitya-siddha-svarupa body) however. On returning to their full Krishna Conscious svarupa body, the experience of billions of lives in the material will be totally insignificant to the point that it never rarally happened. It will be as if they never drifted off into a dream in the first place due to the perpetual concept of the ‘eternal present’ that is eternally devoid of past and future in Goloka-Vrndavana and Vaikuntha, beyond material time and space born from the existence of the phenomenon of past, present and future that can only exist in the mahat-tattva. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> The nitya-baddha coconsciousness is the jiva-tattva or jiva-bhutah and can also be the jiva-tatastha but they are all the extended consciousness of the nitya-siddha when one chooses to ignore <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place>. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Srila Bhaktisiddhanta states the jiva comes from tatastha because the nitya-baddha consciousness does not exist in Vaikuntha, only the nitya-siddha svarupa body is perpetually serving <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place> in Goloka-Vrndavana or Vaikuntha. The jiva nitya-baddha tatastha consciousness is created as soon as one has thoughts and desires not to serve <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place> that puts them out of sink with the eternal presents that only exists in Goloka and Vaikuntha. The nitya-baddha consciousness has many ‘jiva’ names, over 160 of them according to ones condition of nitya-baddha consciousness. It is therefore a fact that ones nitya-baddha consciousness originates from its jiva-tatastha condition simply due to the fact that the nitya baddha consciousness can never exist in Goloka or Vaikuntha, as soon as one has non Krishna conscious desires, thoughts or dreams, they create the secondary nitya-baddha consciousness that originates as tatastha individual conscious transformation that eventually enters the mahat-tattva as the jiva-tattva, jiva-s’akti. Jiva-prakriti, jiva-bhutah, etc.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Srila Prabhupada – “Actually no-one falls down from Vaikuntha because their svarupa body never leaves Vaikuntha, they only ‘think’ they are fallen or ‘dream’ they are fallen but in perpetual reality one can never falls down”. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> What Srila Prabhupada means here, is it is ones independant non-Krishna conscious desires which add the dimention of mundane past and future to their now independent reality of the present. In this way mundane time is born and exists outside the Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha realm in that area of the Spiritual Sky called the maha-tattva. In this way the nitya-baddha consciousness originates from its own tatastha stage of consciousness that eventually transforms to the nitya-baddha jiva bhutah consciousnesson to be impregnated within the mahat-tattva. The nitya-baddha, jiva-tatstha, jiva-s’akti and jiva-tattva are the same (the lower self or ones secondary NON-krishna conscious condition born from falling out of perpetual time); such consciousness is devoid of form until they are either given form by Maha-Vishnu or return back home back to Godhead to their original svarupa or rasa form in Goloka beyong divisions of time.<o:p></o:p> Srila Prabhupada–“We never had any occasion when we were separated from Krsna. (Meaning our devotional nitya-siddha-svarupa body) <o:p></o:p> There is only one marginal personality and bodily identity to all marginal living entities however, due to the time factor it only appears there is two separate identities within the marginal devotees, Its simply all based on one being Krishna Conscious or not Krishna conscious, that is the real division. <o:p></o:p> Srila Prabhupada -"As soon as we forget, immediately the illusion is there. Just like as soon as we sleep, dream is there.” <o:p></o:p> Srila Prabhupada – “Just like one man is dreaming and he forgets himself. In the dream he creates himself in different forms: now I am the King discussing like that”. <o:p></o:p> Srila Prabhupada - “This creation of himself is as seer and subject matter or seen, two things. But as soon as the dream is over, the "seen" disappears. But the seer remains. Now he is in his original position”. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Srila Prabhupada – “Our separation from Krsna is like that. We dream this body and so many relationships with other things. First the attachment comes to enjoy sense gratification. Even with Krsna desire for sense gratification is there”.

The difference is eternal time in Goloka or Vaikuntha world beyond past and future that exists in the perpetual present in contrast to a mahat-tattva or material world that is governed by time, space, past, present and future. In other words it is not that we have an eternal body in Vaikuntha and we are simultaneously in the material world, we are in the material world due to choice however, what separates our awareness from our perpetual body and our present biological body is the concept of time that can place us in both places at the same time. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:" /><o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> What makes our consciousness appear to be divided into two (nitya-siddha and nitya baddha) one is Krishna as their unending rasa or svarupa individual bodies, or our svarupa and rasa bodies. So how can we also be in the material world? The answer is the time factor and not the division of the self however, in this thesis the nitya-siddha is referred to as the eternal form or higher self while the nitya-baddha consciousness is devoid of form and is called the secondary conscious projection or lower self. It only appears that way due to eternal time in relation to divided time. These realizations cannot be learnt on an academic level, they must come from the amazing mercy of the Spiritual Master. <o:p> </o:p><o:p></o:p> <o:p>In one corner of the painting above, one can see the less significant and smaller mahat-tattva unpreserved cloud, also in that Spiritual Sky. This dark cloud is the perishable material universe divided by past, present and future time zones existing in unlimited dimensions of sub-space (where ethereal vessels for both heavenly and hellish planets exist) universes and secular (biological worlds like our own planet) is only 25% of creation.</o:p> <o:p></o:p> <o:p>Unfortunately there are some Vaishnava schools of thought who teach that the soul emanates from the brahmajyoti (tatastha individual consciousness), which they foolishly claim, is living and growing from within itself. They claim that within the brahmajyoti is the source and impersonal origins of all marginal living entities that come to exist due to their equilibrium being somehow disturbed with the purpose of causing original activity to begin (a very vague impersonal statement), claiming that from non-differentiation in the Brahmajyoti, demarcation or separation from the Brahmajyoti begins and from there they have to work their way to Goloka that has never previously been seen by them. They finally believe that once reaching Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha, it is impossible to again fall down into the mahat-tattva unless they enter the mahat-tattva for Krishna Lila. </o:p> <o:p></o:p> <o:p>The fact is what they actually believe in and preach to others is nonsense Impersonalism because they do not understand they have a permanent original body in Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha from where their present nitya-baddha deluded dreaming consciousness originates.</o:p> <o:p></o:p> <o:p>Many advanced Vaishnava’s in various sects’ including some Gaudiya Vaishnavas and even some ISKCON devotees wrongly claim that from a plain or bare sheet of uniform consciousness their individual consciousness grows and comes into existence. Such Impersonal ORIGINS of the soul goes against the teachings of Srila Prabhupada and denies the true facts of ones origins which are from ones marginal Krishna Conscious nitya-siddha-svarupa body that is always in the perpetual Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha Spiritual Sky and can never fall down as previously explained.</o:p> <o:p></o:p> <o:p>One only thinks they are fallen or dreams they are fallen, but actually their svarupa body never falls down. Rather it is ones independent non-Krishna conscious thinking and ones self absorbed ‘dreaming’ thoughts of grandeur that transfer ones awareness of their surroundings to the restricted mahat-tattva as Srila Prabhupada has clearly explained.</o:p> <o:p></o:p> <o:p>This restricted conscious awareness or the so-called dreaming condition of the marginal nitya-siddha-svarupa living entity is called the marginal nitya-baddha sub-consciousness. Mayavadis or Impersonalist cannot understand this simple explanation of what is really going on in ) is the perception of time that we choose to be in; this is an important realization and is the only way to understand the difference between nitya-siddha and nitya-baddha. In genuine reality there is no division because there is no time as we know it within Vaikuntha, only transcendental Lila time. There also is no decay, no birth, disease old age and death, what is there is perpetually there in their full potential which includes all the marginal expansions of Krishna’s/Gods creation.The Impersonalist understanding today is rampant and affecting many Vaishnava sects who wrongly believe that the jiva/soul becomes conscious after originally ‘falling out’ of the Brahmajyoti and then ‘somehow’ becomes endowed with free will. </o:p> <o:p></o:p> <o:p>The ‘Impersonalist Brahmajyoti-origin believers’ also incorrectly believe the nitya-baddha jiva/souls have never previously seen Krishna however, their Impersonal ORIGIN understanding obstructs them from understanding that long, long, long before entering the Impersonal Brahmajyoti or Brahma-sayujya or tatastha individual dormant nitya-baddha consciousness, they had ORIGINALLY chose to extend their NON-Krishna conscious thoughts, dreams and desires from their nitya-siddha-svarupa body in Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha as the extended bodiless nitya-baddha sub-consciousness or jiva tattatva, that first enters the mahat-tattva creation of the dreaming Maha-Vishnu from its jiva-tatastha conscious transformation. After entereing the mahat-tattva and then impregnated into various ethereal and later biological vessels, going on in this way for millions upon millions of births, the embodied jiva-tattva or nitya-baddha extended consciousness, eventually becomes fed-up with the temporary nature of the mahat-tattva or material existance, with it realtionships, building up a life style, working so hard with family, friends and society only to be force to give it all up at death. Such a soul (jiva-tattva or jiva bhutah) will question the point of even existing if he or she does not meet a pure devotee of Krishna, they therefore want to put and end to their existance all together as Srila Prabhupada explains in the Bhagavad-gita. In this way seeks to reach that Impersonal Brahmajyoti aspect of ones nitya-baddha consciousness that is called the jiva-tatastha. </o:p> <o:p></o:p> <o:p>The Impersonal Brahmajyoti effulgence is simply the creations of the marginal living entities lower-self or nitya-baddha non-devotional consciousnesses that originates from Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha Spiritual Sky or Brahmajyoti and ultimately originate as the fully developed svarupa living entity that ARE the magnificent marginal effulgences emanating/surrounding Krishna. (How this happens will be clearly explained over the next few chapters).</o:p> <o:p></o:p> <o:p>So the correct meaning of the word marginal means one can choose to either be on the side of exploitation (nitya-baddha sub-conscious dreaming position that can only exist in the mahat-tattva) or always remain as ones nitya-siddha-svarupa Krishna Conscious body in Goloka on the side of perpetual dedication and devotion to Krishna.</o:p> <o:p></o:p> <o:p>Srila Prabhupada - “Because he falls down from Brahma-sayujya (tatastha-s’akti, Impersonal Brahmajyoti or Brahman consciousness condition of the life force), he thinks that may be his origin, but he does not remember that long, long, long, long ago before that even, he was with Krishna”. </o:p> <o:p> Srila Prabhupada – “Originally we have a direct personal relationship with Krishna in the spiritual world. But when we want to take Krishna’s position, we therefore put ourselves into a dreaming state due to our non-Krishna conscious choices. In this dreaming state, we enter the mahat-tattva dream of Maha-Vishnu that is a real but a perishable reality that exists in a temporary state in one corner of the Spiritual Sky, Brahmajyoti or creation”. Srila Prabhupada -“We forget our actual positionand thus are free to act out our desire and dreams in our attempts to become the supreme enjoyer. These mistaken self centered choices or non-Krishna conscious dreams are characterized as being “fallen” from our position in the spiritual world but actually we are not fallen, we are simply in a dreaming consciousness that originates from our nitya-siddha body, those dreams are called the nitya-baddha or materially conditioned consciousness” Srila Prabhupada clearly explains that in Vaikuntha beyond mundane time and space that governs the mahat-tattva, we are not fallen, we are simply dreaming from our nitya-siddha body, those dreams are called the nitya-baddha consciousness which is created by the desires not to be with Krishna.The description of sparks in the effulgence or a particle or atom in a ray of light is correctly describing the nitya-baddha consciousness in the mahat-tattva and the nitya-baddha jiva-tatastha consciousness in the surrounding Impersonal aspect of the Brahmajyoti that separates Vaikuntha from the maha-tattva. The other 75% of creation is full of nitya-siddha devotee of whom some are simultaneously in the mahat-tattva as a bodiless nitya-baddha conscious projections relying on the bodies or vessels provided by Maha-Vishnu". We are all dreaming as our nitya-baddha secondary self within the dreams of Maha-Vishnu</o:p>

THE SECRET VEDIC BOOK OF ORIGINS FINALLY RELEASED TO THE WORLD FOR ALL TO SEE.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:" /><o:p></o:p> Quantum physics or the science of possibilities revealed on the highest level. The mysterious origin of the soul is now within our grasp of understanding. Gods/Krishna's creation of the Krishna Conscious Spiritual Sky and the mostly non-Krishna conscious material creation (mahat-tattva) situated in one corner of the Spiritual Sky or Brahmajyoti facilitated by the dreaming Maha-Vishnu expansion of the Godhead. <o:p></o:p> The following book is a concluding confirmation as clearly explained by His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, that the jiva/souls (all of Gods/Krishnas’ subsidiary, marginal living beings or all living entities) manifests originally and perpetually as a bodily (vigraha) servant of the Supreme Personality of Godhead Lord Krishna (The Supreme Vigraha or Bodily Form) that can never vacate from Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha (the perpetual Kingdom of God/Krishna) as their perpetual rasa (devotional mood) bodily serving Krishna.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> If we are to correctly understand that we all originate from Goloka-Vrndavana, such realizations are only possible by the mercy of Srila Prabhupada and without his mercy one will never understand. Everything Srila Prabhupada said and wrote must be understood in the context of His books, lectures, morning walks and classes is the correct way to appreciate the criteria of guru, sadhu, and shastra. All interpretations of his teachings failing these criteria are to be considered bogus; therefore everthing in this book is based very clearly on the teachings of His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami. In a Nectar of Devotion lecture given on October 23, 1972, in Vrndavana, India, Srila Prabhupada explains: “We should be always ready to offer respect to all, not only devotees, but everyone. Everyone! Why? Because every living entity is originally a devotee of Krishna. But circumstantially, being covered by the coat of Maya, he’s playing like demon. But his original nature is a devotee of Krishna. Jivera svarupa haya nitya krsnera dasa. Everyone is eternally servant of Krishna. But being influenced by Maya, when he gets this body, given by Maya...Prakrtih kriyamananih gunaih karmani sarvasah, when he conducted by the three gunas of maya, he thinks himself otherwise.” In a lecture on the Bhagavad-gita given in London on August 6, 1973, Srila Prabhupada further explains: “We have also come down from Vaikuntha some millions and millions of years ago” Srila Prabhupada “formerly we were with krsna in his lila or sport”. The Jiva-soul: Its Origin, Nature, And Potentialities The beautiful Srimad Bhagavatam teaches us that the perpetual Kingdom of Radha and Krishna, known as Krishna-Loka or Goloka-Vrndavana, is the original source of all creation and all living entities. This central planet further radiates an effulgence that encircles the Goloka-Vrndavana Planet with the imperishable Vishnu-Loka or the Vaikuntha Planets, where Krishna’s innumerable (countless) expansions of Vishnu and Lakshmi reside, along with their infinite number of devotee’s (known as Krishna’s marginal potency or individual bodily servants) takes up 75% of the immortal Spiritual Sky or total creation. Krishna’s planet is centered above in the red lotus flower and surrounded by unlimited expansions of Vishnu and Lakshmi in their surrounding yellow Vaikuntha planets. Both these transcendental abodes are made up of living vigraha (bodily) all-attractive conscious beings, individual entities, who are the bodily radiance of Krishna, serving the Supreme Vigraha Lord Krishna or His Lord Vishnu Expansions as their own infinitesimal vigraha bodies. It is also very important to understand in our present impersonal mundane religious and technological world, that all of us are originally individual perpetual bodily personalities; we are collectively and independently Krishna’s marginal potency in our everlasting original vigraha bodily position serving Krishna. Just like one cannot separate the Sun from the sunrays, the marginal living beings and Krishna are never separated. That analogy can be misleading because we certainly in no way resemble a spark or ray of sunlight and Krishna is certainly not a blazing Sun. Krishna has an eternal bodily form and so does all of His marginal radiance of countless individual personalities. Unfortunately many in various so-called Hindu and Vaishnava sects in India cannot understand this fact due to being polluted by Impersonalism. Through the teachings of Srila Prabhupada, we can understand we are collectively and independently Krishna’s marginal potency in our everlasting original bodily position serving Krishna. Being marginal means we can choose to remain as we really are as our full Krishna Conscious svarupa body, or consciously drift from that body and enter the material creation, not as our eternal devotional body, but as a conscious projection that creates its own counterfeit bodily forms facilitated by the creator of the material creation, Maha-Vishnu. No material energy (Maha-Maya) can exist in Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha; therefore it is impossible to forget Krishna, so how does one fall down? The simple answer is they choose to leave, Srila Prabhupada explains that the tendency is there with all nitya-siddha devotees because of being marginal energy of the Lord, to either stay with Krishna or reject him due to independent desires is the choice all marginal living entities have – they is why they are called marginal. Srila Prabhupada goes on to explain that actually no-one falls down because their svarupa body never leaves Goloka-Vrndavana and that that only ‘think’ they are fallen or ‘dream’ they are fallen but in perpetual reality one can never fall down. This understanding of ‘vigraha’ (bodily form) is the highest realization of how all marginal living entities perpetually and originally existed – sat-cit-ananda-vigraha. Krishna’s marginal potency or the nitya-siddha-svarupa or sat-cit-ananda-vigraha devotee’s can never fall down as their original bodily devotional self because of the perpetual uninterrupted nature of the Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha Spiritual Sky that is set in the eternal present beyond the concept of past and future (75% of the Spiritual Sky or Brahmajyoti). The perpetual nature of a Jiva is the eternal active servant of Krishna as their nitya-siddha-svarupa BODILY origin. A Jiva as the nitya-baddha-tatastha consciousness (border line) or potency of Krishna exists simultaneously as a separate and non-separated entity. In other words when one chooses to forget Krishna, one is unwilling to serve Krishna as their Krishna Conscious nitya-siddha bodily self and therefore it is that aversion to Krishna that causes the nitya-baddha bodiless conscious condition to exist. The nitya-baddha consciousness originates from the nitya-siddha MARGINAL body and is instantaneously in the mahat-tattva, divided time and space when one chooses to forget Krishna. Its not that we have two different selves, no, it’s not like that, there is only one marginal self that chooses to be with Krishna or reject Krishna. The simple choice all marginal living entities have is accepting ones Krishna Conscious perpetual body in Vaikuntha, while the other is rejecting Krishna and being confined to counterfeit temporary bodily forms in the mahat-tattva.

The difference is eternal time in Goloka or Vaikuntha world beyond past and future that exists in the perpetual present in contrast to a mahat-tattva or material world that is governed by time, space, past, present and future. In other words it is not that we have an eternal body in Vaikuntha and we are simultaneously in the material world, we are in the material world due to choice however, what separates our awareness from our perpetual body and our present biological body is the concept of time that can place us in both places at the same time. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:" /><o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> What makes our consciousness appear to be divided into two (nitya-siddha and nitya baddha) one is Krishna as their unending rasa or svarupa individual bodies, or our svarupa and rasa bodies. So how can we also be in the material world? The answer is the time factor and not the division of the self however, in this thesis the nitya-siddha is referred to as the eternal form or higher self while the nitya-baddha consciousness is devoid of form and is called the secondary conscious projection or lower self. It only appears that way due to eternal time in relation to divided time. These realizations cannot be learnt on an academic level, they must come from the amazing mercy of the Spiritual Master. <o:p> </o:p><o:p></o:p> <o:p>In one corner of the painting above, one can see the less significant and smaller mahat-tattva unpreserved cloud, also in that Spiritual Sky. This dark cloud is the perishable material universe divided by past, present and future time zones existing in unlimited dimensions of sub-space (where ethereal vessels for both heavenly and hellish planets exist) universes and secular (biological worlds like our own planet) is only 25% of creation.</o:p> <o:p></o:p> <o:p>Unfortunately there are some Vaishnava schools of thought who teach that the soul emanates from the brahmajyoti (tatastha individual consciousness), which they foolishly claim, is living and growing from within itself. They claim that within the brahmajyoti is the source and impersonal origins of all marginal living entities that come to exist due to their equilibrium being somehow disturbed with the purpose of causing original activity to begin (a very vague impersonal statement), claiming that from non-differentiation in the Brahmajyoti, demarcation or separation from the Brahmajyoti begins and from there they have to work their way to Goloka that has never previously been seen by them. They finally believe that once reaching Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha, it is impossible to again fall down into the mahat-tattva unless they enter the mahat-tattva for Krishna Lila. </o:p> <o:p></o:p> <o:p>The fact is what they actually believe in and preach to others is nonsense Impersonalism because they do not understand they have a permanent original body in Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha from where their present nitya-baddha deluded dreaming consciousness originates.</o:p> <o:p></o:p> <o:p>Many advanced Vaishnava’s in various sects’ including some Gaudiya Vaishnavas and even some ISKCON devotees wrongly claim that from a plain or bare sheet of uniform consciousness their individual consciousness grows and comes into existence. Such Impersonal ORIGINS of the soul goes against the teachings of Srila Prabhupada and denies the true facts of ones origins which are from ones marginal Krishna Conscious nitya-siddha-svarupa body that is always in the perpetual Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha Spiritual Sky and can never fall down as previously explained.</o:p> <o:p></o:p> <o:p>One only thinks they are fallen or dreams they are fallen, but actually their svarupa body never falls down. Rather it is ones independent non-Krishna conscious thinking and ones self absorbed ‘dreaming’ thoughts of grandeur that transfer ones awareness of their surroundings to the restricted mahat-tattva as Srila Prabhupada has clearly explained.</o:p> <o:p></o:p> <o:p>This restricted conscious awareness or the so-called dreaming condition of the marginal nitya-siddha-svarupa living entity is called the marginal nitya-baddha sub-consciousness. Mayavadis or Impersonalist cannot understand this simple explanation of what is really going on in ) is the perception of time that we choose to be in; this is an important realization and is the only way to understand the difference between nitya-siddha and nitya-baddha. In genuine reality there is no division because there is no time as we know it within Vaikuntha, only transcendental Lila time. There also is no decay, no birth, disease old age and death, what is there is perpetually there in their full potential which includes all the marginal expansions of Krishna’s/Gods creation.The Impersonalist understanding today is rampant and affecting many Vaishnava sects who wrongly believe that the jiva/soul becomes conscious after originally ‘falling out’ of the Brahmajyoti and then ‘somehow’ becomes endowed with free will. </o:p> <o:p></o:p> <o:p>The ‘Impersonalist Brahmajyoti-origin believers’ also incorrectly believe the nitya-baddha jiva/souls have never previously seen Krishna however, their Impersonal ORIGIN understanding obstructs them from understanding that long, long, long before entering the Impersonal Brahmajyoti or Brahma-sayujya or tatastha individual dormant nitya-baddha consciousness, they had ORIGINALLY chose to extend their NON-Krishna conscious thoughts, dreams and desires from their nitya-siddha-svarupa body in Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha as the extended bodiless nitya-baddha sub-consciousness or jiva tattatva, that first enters the mahat-tattva creation of the dreaming Maha-Vishnu from its jiva-tatastha conscious transformation. After entereing the mahat-tattva and then impregnated into various ethereal and later biological vessels, going on in this way for millions upon millions of births, the embodied jiva-tattva or nitya-baddha extended consciousness, eventually becomes fed-up with the temporary nature of the mahat-tattva or material existance, with it realtionships, building up a life style, working so hard with family, friends and society only to be force to give it all up at death. Such a soul (jiva-tattva or jiva bhutah) will question the point of even existing if he or she does not meet a pure devotee of Krishna, they therefore want to put and end to their existance all together as Srila Prabhupada explains in the Bhagavad-gita. In this way seeks to reach that Impersonal Brahmajyoti aspect of ones nitya-baddha consciousness that is called the jiva-tatastha. </o:p> <o:p></o:p> <o:p>The Impersonal Brahmajyoti effulgence is simply the creations of the marginal living entities lower-self or nitya-baddha non-devotional consciousnesses that originates from Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha Spiritual Sky or Brahmajyoti and ultimately originate as the fully developed svarupa living entity that ARE the magnificent marginal effulgences emanating/surrounding Krishna. (How this happens will be clearly explained over the next few chapters).</o:p> <o:p></o:p> <o:p>So the correct meaning of the word marginal means one can choose to either be on the side of exploitation (nitya-baddha sub-conscious dreaming position that can only exist in the mahat-tattva) or always remain as ones nitya-siddha-svarupa Krishna Conscious body in Goloka on the side of perpetual dedication and devotion to Krishna.</o:p> <o:p></o:p> <o:p>Srila Prabhupada - “Because he falls down from Brahma-sayujya (tatastha-s’akti, Impersonal Brahmajyoti or Brahman consciousness condition of the life force), he thinks that may be his origin, but he does not remember that long, long, long, long ago before that even, he was with Krishna”. </o:p> <o:p> Srila Prabhupada – “Originally we have a direct personal relationship with Krishna in the spiritual world. But when we want to take Krishna’s position, we therefore put ourselves into a dreaming state due to our non-Krishna conscious choices. In this dreaming state, we enter the mahat-tattva dream of Maha-Vishnu that is a real but a perishable reality that exists in a temporary state in one corner of the Spiritual Sky, Brahmajyoti or creation”. Srila Prabhupada -“We forget our actual positionand thus are free to act out our desire and dreams in our attempts to become the supreme enjoyer. These mistaken self centered choices or non-Krishna conscious dreams are characterized as being “fallen” from our position in the spiritual world but actually we are not fallen, we are simply in a dreaming consciousness that originates from our nitya-siddha body, those dreams are called the nitya-baddha or materially conditioned consciousness” Srila Prabhupada clearly explains that in Vaikuntha beyond mundane time and space that governs the mahat-tattva, we are not fallen, we are simply dreaming from our nitya-siddha body, those dreams are called the nitya-baddha consciousness which is created by the desires not to be with Krishna.The description of sparks in the effulgence or a particle or atom in a ray of light is correctly describing the nitya-baddha consciousness in the mahat-tattva and the nitya-baddha jiva-tatastha consciousness in the surrounding Impersonal aspect of the Brahmajyoti that separates Vaikuntha from the maha-tattva. The other 75% of creation is full of nitya-siddha devotee of whom some are simultaneously in the mahat-tattva as a bodiless nitya-baddha conscious projections relying on the bodies or vessels provided by Maha-Vishnu". We are all dreaming as our nitya-baddha secondary self within the dreams of Maha-Vishnu </o:p>

THE SECRET VEDIC BOOK OF ORIGINS FINALLY RELEASED TO THE WORLD FOR ALL TO SEE.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:" /><o:p></o:p> Quantum physics or the science of possibilities revealed on the highest level. The mysterious origin of the soul is now within our grasp of understanding. Gods/Krishna's creation of the Krishna Conscious Spiritual Sky and the mostly non-Krishna conscious material creation (mahat-tattva) situated in one corner of the Spiritual Sky or Brahmajyoti facilitated by the dreaming Maha-Vishnu expansion of the Godhead. <o:p></o:p> The following book is a concluding confirmation as clearly explained by His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, that the jiva/souls (all of Gods/Krishnas’ subsidiary, marginal living beings or all living entities) manifests originally and perpetually as a bodily (vigraha) servant of the Supreme Personality of Godhead Lord Krishna (The Supreme Vigraha or Bodily Form) that can never vacate from Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha (the perpetual Kingdom of God/Krishna) as their perpetual rasa (devotional mood) bodily serving Krishna.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> If we are to correctly understand that we all originate from Goloka-Vrndavana, such realizations are only possible by the mercy of Srila Prabhupada and without his mercy one will never understand. Everything Srila Prabhupada said and wrote must be understood in the context of His books, lectures, morning walks and classes is the correct way to appreciate the criteria of guru, sadhu, and shastra. All interpretations of his teachings failing these criteria are to be considered bogus; therefore everthing in this book is based very clearly on the teachings of His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami. In a Nectar of Devotion lecture given on October 23, 1972, in Vrndavana, India, Srila Prabhupada explains: “We should be always ready to offer respect to all, not only devotees, but everyone. Everyone! Why? Because every living entity is originally a devotee of Krishna. But circumstantially, being covered by the coat of Maya, he’s playing like demon. But his original nature is a devotee of Krishna. Jivera svarupa haya nitya krsnera dasa. Everyone is eternally servant of Krishna. But being influenced by Maya, when he gets this body, given by Maya...Prakrtih kriyamananih gunaih karmani sarvasah, when he conducted by the three gunas of maya, he thinks himself otherwise.” In a lecture on the Bhagavad-gita given in London on August 6, 1973, Srila Prabhupada further explains: “We have also come down from Vaikuntha some millions and millions of years ago” Srila Prabhupada “formerly we were with krsna in his lila or sport”. The Jiva-soul: Its Origin, Nature, And Potentialities The beautiful Srimad Bhagavatam teaches us that the perpetual Kingdom of Radha and Krishna, known as Krishna-Loka or Goloka-Vrndavana, is the original source of all creation and all living entities. This central planet further radiates an effulgence that encircles the Goloka-Vrndavana Planet with the imperishable Vishnu-Loka or the Vaikuntha Planets, where Krishna’s innumerable (countless) expansions of Vishnu and Lakshmi reside, along with their infinite number of devotee’s (known as Krishna’s marginal potency or individual bodily servants) takes up 75% of the immortal Spiritual Sky or total creation. Krishna’s planet is centered above in the red lotus flower and surrounded by unlimited expansions of Vishnu and Lakshmi in their surrounding yellow Vaikuntha planets. Both these transcendental abodes are made up of living vigraha (bodily) all-attractive conscious beings, individual entities, who are the bodily radiance of Krishna, serving the Supreme Vigraha Lord Krishna or His Lord Vishnu Expansions as their own infinitesimal vigraha bodies. It is also very important to understand in our present impersonal mundane religious and technological world, that all of us are originally individual perpetual bodily personalities; we are collectively and independently Krishna’s marginal potency in our everlasting original vigraha bodily position serving Krishna. Just like one cannot separate the Sun from the sunrays, the marginal living beings and Krishna are never separated. That analogy can be misleading because we certainly in no way resemble a spark or ray of sunlight and Krishna is certainly not a blazing Sun. Krishna has an eternal bodily form and so does all of His marginal radiance of countless individual personalities. Unfortunately many in various so-called Hindu and Vaishnava sects in India cannot understand this fact due to being polluted by Impersonalism. Through the teachings of Srila Prabhupada, we can understand we are collectively and independently Krishna’s marginal potency in our everlasting original bodily position serving Krishna. Being marginal means we can choose to remain as we really are as our full Krishna Conscious svarupa body, or consciously drift from that body and enter the material creation, not as our eternal devotional body, but as a conscious projection that creates its own counterfeit bodily forms facilitated by the creator of the material creation, Maha-Vishnu. No material energy (Maha-Maya) can exist in Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha; therefore it is impossible to forget Krishna, so how does one fall down? The simple answer is they choose to leave, Srila Prabhupada explains that the tendency is there with all nitya-siddha devotees because of being marginal energy of the Lord, to either stay with Krishna or reject him due to independent desires is the choice all marginal living entities have – they is why they are called marginal. Srila Prabhupada goes on to explain that actually no-one falls down because their svarupa body never leaves Goloka-Vrndavana and that that only ‘think’ they are fallen or ‘dream’ they are fallen but in perpetual reality one can never fall down. This understanding of ‘vigraha’ (bodily form) is the highest realization of how all marginal living entities perpetually and originally existed – sat-cit-ananda-vigraha. Krishna’s marginal potency or the nitya-siddha-svarupa or sat-cit-ananda-vigraha devotee’s can never fall down as their original bodily devotional self because of the perpetual uninterrupted nature of the Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha Spiritual Sky that is set in the eternal present beyond the concept of past and future (75% of the Spiritual Sky or Brahmajyoti). The perpetual nature of a Jiva is the eternal active servant of Krishna as their nitya-siddha-svarupa BODILY origin. A Jiva as the nitya-baddha-tatastha consciousness (border line) or potency of Krishna exists simultaneously as a separate and non-separated entity. In other words when one chooses to forget Krishna, one is unwilling to serve Krishna as their Krishna Conscious nitya-siddha bodily self and therefore it is that aversion to Krishna that causes the nitya-baddha bodiless conscious condition to exist. The nitya-baddha consciousness originates from the nitya-siddha MARGINAL body and is instantaneously in the mahat-tattva, divided time and space when one chooses to forget Krishna. Its not that we have two different selves, no, it’s not like that, there is only one marginal self that chooses to be with Krishna or reject Krishna. The simple choice all marginal living entities have is accepting ones Krishna Conscious perpetual body in Vaikuntha, while the other is rejecting Krishna and being confined to counterfeit temporary bodily forms in the mahat-tattva.

The word impersonal is a bit harsh for aspiring devotees who believe the end result is Goloka - interesting comment ghari. Regardless of where our origins are from, the desires of all aspiring devotees is to learn how to love Krishna and serve his devotees, only then will our origins be revealed. No-one can understand on an academic level, it is only revealed by the causeless mercy of the Spiritual Master

Devotee: Well, I believe you once said that once a conditioned soul becomes perfected and gets out of the material world and he goes to Krsnaloka, there’s no possibility of falling back. Srila Prabhupada: No! There is possibility, but he does not come. Just like after putting your hand in the fire, you never put it again if you are really intelligent. So those who are going back to Godhead, they become intelligent. Why going back to Godhead? Just like we are in renounced order of life. So we have renounced our family life after thinking something. Now, if somebody comes, ‘Swamiji, you take thousand millions of dollars and marry again and become a family man,’ I’ll never become, because I have got my bad experience. I’ll never become.” Lecture on Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, Adi-lila 7.108 (San Francisco, February 18, 1967) <O:P Paramahamsa: So we can come to the spiritual world and return? Srila Prabhupada: Yes. Paramahamsa: Fall down? Srila Prabhupada: Yes. As soon as we try, "Oh, this material world is very nice,Yes," Krsna says, "yes, you go . . . Otherwise what is the meaning of free will?” Morning Walk, Cheviot Hills Golf Course May 13, 1973 (Los Angeles)<O:P></O:P> Translator: The question is: did we fall in this material world to find some highest pleasure? His question is: did we fall in the material world to experience something which is higher? Srila Prabhupada: I do not follow. Yogesvara: I think his question is the husband will leave the wife because he is dissatisfied. But if our love for Krsna originally is perfect why should we have left? Srila Prabhupada: YOU HAVE LEFT... Just like somebody is daily eating puris and halava, and he wants to eat also puffed rice. So that tendency is there. That is also a side of enjoyment. ‘I am eating daily this, let me eat this.’ What is the difficulty? That tendency is there. That is also enjoyment. After all, we are hankering after enjoyment, anandamayo 'bhyasat. So, different taste we desire, that, "Let me taste this, let me taste that, let me taste that." So the real basic principle is enjoyment, sense enjoyment. That's all." Bhagavada-gita Lecture August 5, 1976 (Paris) <O:P></O:P>

Many of the Vaishnava sects other than ISKCON have all become polluted with Impersonalism that deny the unfathomable greatness of Lord Krishna’s inconceivable PERSONAL creation. Such fools in those sects foolishly and hysterically claim the their nitya-baddha consciousness originates from the Impersonal Brahmajyoti. We are all persons first as a perpetual nitya-siddha body (marginal living entity) with an eternal svarupa that always exists even if we cannot remember that ffice:smarttags" />All impersonalism (tatastha-consciousness) has its beginning in the creation originally due to ones nitya-baddha fallen consciousness, which is the lower 'bodiless' self of ones perpetual authentic nitya-siddha-svarupa body as already explained. Srila Prabhupada - is very clear. “Originally we have a direct personal relationship with Krishna. . Krishna</st1:place> Conscious bodily form due to our nitya-jiva-baddha non-Krishna conscious dreams. Krishna in the spiritual world. But when we want to take <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com <font color=" /><st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place>’s position,we therefore put ourselves into a dreaming state due to our non-Krishna conscious choices.” Srila Prabhupada–“We never had any occasion when we were separated from Krsna. (MEANING OUR NITYA-SIDDHA-SVARUPA BODY) Srila Prabhupada – “Just like one man is dreaming and he forgets himself. In dream he creates himself in different forms: now I am the King discussing like that”. Srila Prabhupada - “This creation of himself is as seer and subject matter or seen, two things. But as soon as the dream is over, the "seen" disappears. But the seer remains. Now he is in his original position”. Srila Prabhupada – “Our separation from Krsna is like that. We dream this body and so many relationships with other things. First the attachment comes to enjoy sense gratification. Even with Krsna desire for sense gratification is there”. Srila Prabhupada – “There is a dormant attitude for forgetting Krsna and creating an atmosphere for enjoying independently. Srila Prabhupada – “Just like at the edge of the beach, sometimes the water covers, sometimes there is dry sand, coming and going. Our position is like that, sometimes covered, sometimes free, just like at the edge of the tide”. Srila Prabhupada -"As soon as we forget, immediately the illusion is there. Just like as soon as we sleep, dream is there.” Srila Prabhupada – “We cannot say therefore that we are not with Krsna. As soon as we try to become Lord, immediately we are covered by Maya. Srila Prabhupada “FORMERLY WE WERE WITH KRSNA IN HIS LILA OR SPORT”. Srila Prabhupada -"But this covering of Maya may be of very, very, very, very long duration; therefore many creations are coming and going. Srila Prabhupada – “Due to this long period of time it is sometimes said that we are ever-conditioned. But his long duration of time becomes very insignificant when one actually comes to Krsna consciousness". Srila Prabhupada - "Just like in a dreamwe are thinking very long time, but as soon as we awaken we look at our watch and see it has been a moment only". Srila Prabhupada - "Just like with Krsna's friends, they were kept asleep for one year by Brahma, but when they woke up and Krsna returned before them, they considered that only a moment had passed”. Srila Prabhupada – “So this dreaming conditionis called non-liberated life, and this is just like a dream. Although in this material calculation it is a long, long period, as soon as we come to Krsna consciousness then this period is considered as a second". Srila Prabhupada -"He may come down to become a germ, but then he may rise up to Krsna consciousness and go back to home, back to Godhead. This is the position”. Srila Prabhupada - "So when I say Yes, there is eternal lila with Krsna, that means on the evidence of Jaya-Vijaya. Unless one develops full devotional service to Krsna, he can go only up to Brahmasayujya but falls down. But after millions and millions of years of keeping oneself away from the lila of the Lord, when one comes BACK to Krsna consciousness, this period becomes insignificant, just like dreaming. Bhativinode Thakur -“However, because of contact with matter, the imprisoned jiva-tattva or jiva-s’akti extended consciousness looses the memory of their original spiritual rasa bodily form in Vaikuntha. . . Material rasas are perverted reflections of the nitya-siddha original spiritual rasas.” Prema-pradipa, p. 83 Ramanuja Acharya also vigorously argues that the spiritual perpetual rasa body of the soul has always existed and that upon liberation, one once again attains that which has always existed. (Vs. 4.4.1), Srila Prabhupada - “We wanted to give up <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place>.” There is no mention of originally being in the Brahmajyoti, tatastha or the Viraja River in the mahat-tattva outside the dreams of Maha-Vishnu, or being always conditioned, or being in anything less than a fully developed perpetually vigraha devotee in a relationship with Krishna that is eternally there in Goloka- Vrndavana/Vaikuntha, even if we presently are unaware of this fact due to our secondary dreaming consciousness (conditioned soul or jiva consciousness) restricted by the division of time and space within the mahat-tattva cloud. Srila Prabhupada -“Originally we have a direct personal relationship with <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place> in the spiritual world. But when we want to take <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place>’s position, we therefore put ourselves into a dreaming statedue to our non-Krishna conscious choices”. Srila Prabhupada -"In this dreaming state, after we enter the mahat-tattva dream of Maha-Vishnu, we forget our actual positionand thus are free to act out our desire in our attempts to become the supreme enjoyer". These mistaken self centered choices or non Krishna conscious dreams, are characterized as being “fallen” from our position in the spiritual world, but Srila Prabhupada explains that in Vaikuntha reality, beyond mundane time and space that governs the mahat-tattva, we are not fallen (here Srila Prabhupada is refering to our perpetual svarupa body), We are simply in a non-Krishna Conscious dreaming condition that cannot stay in Goloka. Srila Prabhupada -"Because the living being can appear either in matter or in spirit, the jiva is called the marginal potency" CC Adi 5.41 pp. Srila Prabhupada explains that ‘marginal’ means the tendency of the living being to reject the sanction of the Lord and act independently within the material creation or mahat-tattva”. Clearly explained here by Srila Prabhupada is how the non-Krishna conscious dreams that are sub-consciously separate from ones nitya-siddha-svarupa rasa body. are then transferred to the ‘creation for the dreaming’ known as the mahat-tattva. This seconday (conditioned) extension of the nitya-siddha is known as the nitya-baddha condition of restricted awareness , manifesting in a dreaming condition of non-Krishna conscious thoughts and desires that is called the jiva-s’akti, jiva-tattva, jiva-bhutah and about 170 other jiva definitions depending on ones secondary conscious dreaming condition. Srila Prabhupada “Svapna-drastur ivanjasa. The very exact “Svapna-drastur ivanjasa. The very exact example is given, svapna-drastuh. Just like a man seeing dream: “Oh, there is tiger, tiger, tiger, tiger! Save me!” Srila Prabhupada- “He is crying. Another man is, “Where is tiger? Why you are crying? Where is tiger?” But he, in the dream, he is actually feeling: “The tiger has attacked me.” Therefore this example is given, na ghatetartha-sambandhah. There cannot be any meaning of this relationship except like a man dreaming and he is creating a situation”. Srila Prabhupada is the personification of all Shastra He's life is the living Bhagavatam]

We must understand what personalism is, we must understand that <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:" /><o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> In a Nectar of Devotion lecture given on October 23, 1972, in <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comKrishna</st1:place>’s creation is personal which means we are all persons as well. <font color=" /><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Vrndavana</st1:City>, <st1:country-region w:st="on">India</st1:country-region></st1:place>, Srila Prabhupada explains: <FONT color=#333333><o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> “We should be always ready to offer respect to all, not only devotees, but everyone. Everyone! Why? Because every living entity is originally a devotee of <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place>. But circumstantially, being covered by the coat of Maya, he’s playing like demon. But his original nature is a devotee of <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place>. Jivera svarupa haya nitya krsnera dasa. Everyone is eternally servant of <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place>. But being influenced by Maya, when he gets this body, given by Maya...Prakrtih kriyamananih gunaih karmani sarvasah, when he conducted by the three gunas of maya, he thinks himself otherwise.”<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> In a lecture on the Bhagavad-gita given in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">London</st1:place></st1:City> on August 6, 1973, Srila Prabhupada further explains: <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> “We have also come down from Vaikuntha some millions and millions of years ago”<o:p></o:p> Just as Krishna is a perpetual bodily person, so are all His marginal emanations however, <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place> is always master and his marginal nitya-siddha devotees are always His servant. <o:p></o:p> Unfortunately there are some Vaishnava schools of thought who teach that the soul emanates from the brahmajyoti, which they foolishly claim, is living and growing from within itself. They claim that within the brahmajyoti is the source and impersonal origins of all marginal living entities that come to exist due to their equilibrium being somehow disturbed with the purpose of causing original activity to begin (a very vague impersonal statement), claiming that from non-differentiation in the Brahmajyoti, demarcation or separation from the Brahmajyoti begins and from there they have to work their way to Goloka that has never previously been seen by them. They finally believe that once reaching Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha, it is impossible to again fall down into the mahat-tattva unless they enter the mahat-tattva for Krishna Lila. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> The fact is what they actually believe in and preach to others is nonsense Impersonalism because they do not understand they have a permanent original body in Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha from where their present nitya-baddha deluded dreaming consciousness originates.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Many advanced Vaishnava’s in various sects’ including some Gaudiya Vaishnavas and even some ISKCON devotees wrongly claim that from a plain or bare sheet of uniform consciousness their individual consciousness grows and comes into existence. Such Impersonalism goes against the teachings of Srila Prabhupada and denies the true facts of ones origins which are from ones marginal Krishna Conscious nitya-siddha-svarupa body that is always in the perpetual Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha Spiritual Sky and can never fall down as previously explained. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> One only thinks they are fallen or dreams they are fallen, but actually their svarupa body never falls down. Rather it is ones independent non-Krishna conscious thinking and ones self absorbed ‘dreaming’ thoughts of grandeur that transfer ones awareness of their surroundings to the restricted mahat-tattva as Srila Prabhupada has clearly explained.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> This restricted conscious awareness or the dreaming condition of the marginal nitya-siddha-svarupa living entity is called the marginal nitya-baddha sub-consciousness. Mayavadis or Impersonalist cannot understand this simple explanation of what is really going on in <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place>’s/Gods creation. The Impersonalist understanding today is rampant and affecting many Vaishnava sects who wrongly believe that the jiva/soul becomes conscious after originally ‘falling out’ of the Brahmajyoti and then ‘somehow’ becomes endowed with free will. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> The ‘Impersonalist Brahmajyoti-origin believers’ also incorrectly believe the nitya-baddha jiva/souls have never previously seen Krishna however, their Impersonal understanding obstructs them from understanding that long, long, long before entering the Impersonal Brahmajyoti or Brahma-sayujya or tatastha individual dormant consciousness, they had first chose to extend from their nitya-siddha-svarupa body in Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha, their nitya-baddha sub-conscious desires and non-Krishna conscious dreams that first enter the mahat-tattva creation of the dreaming Maha-Vishnu, going on for millions upon millions of births until eventually reaching that Impersonal Brahmajyoti aspect of ones nitya-baddha consciousness that is called the jiva-tatastha. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> The Impersonal Brahmajyoti effulgence is simply creations of the marginal living entities lower-self or nitya-baddha non-devotional consciousnesses that originates from Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha Spiritual Sky or Brahmajyoti and ultimately originate as the fully developed svarupa living entity that IS the magnificent effulgence emanating/surrounding <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place>. (How this happens will be clearly explained over the next few chapters). So the correct meaning of the word marginal means one can choose to either be on the side of exploitation (nitya-baddha sub-conscious dreaming position that can only exist in the mahat-tattva) or always remain as ones nitya-siddha-svarupa Krishna Conscious body in Goloka on the side of perpetual dedication and devotion to Krishna. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Srila Prabhupada - “Because he falls down from Brahma-sayujya (tatastha-s’akti, Impersonal Brahmajyoti or Brahman consciousness condition of the life force), he thinks that may be his origin, but he does not remember that long, long, long, long ago before that even, he was with Krishna”. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Srila Prabhupada -“Originally we have a direct personal relationship with <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place> in the spiritual world. But when we want to take <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place>’s position, we therefore put ourselves into a dreaming state due to our non-Krishna conscious choices. In this dreaming state, we enter the mahat-tattva dream of Maha-Vishnu that is a real but a perishable reality that exists in a temporary state in one corner of the Spiritual Sky, Brahmajyoti or creation”. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Srila Prabhupada -“We forget our actual positionand thus are free to act out our desire and dreams in our attempts to become the supreme enjoyer. These mistaken self centered choices or non-Krishna conscious dreams are characterized as being “fallen” from our position in the spiritual world but actually we are not fallen, we are simply in a dreaming consciousness that originates from our nitya-siddha body, those dreams are called the nitya-baddha or materially conditioned consciousness” <o:p></o:p> <o:p>Srila Prabhupada - </o:p> clearly explains that in Vaikuntha beyond mundane time and space that governs the mahat-tattva, we are not fallen, we are simply dreaming from our nitya-siddha body, those dreams are called the nitya-baddha consciousness. Srila Prabhupada - - “Of course everyone has a particular relationship with the Lord, and that relationship is evoked by the perfection of devotional service. But in the present status of our life, not only have we forgotten the Supreme Lord, but we have forgotten our eternal relationship with the Lord”. Srila Prabhupada -– “Every living being, out of the many, many billions and trillions of living beings, has a particular relationship with the Lord eternally. That is called svarupa”. Srila Prabhupada -– “By the process of devotional service, one can revive that svarupa, and that stage is called svarupa-siddhi -- perfection of one's constitutional position. So Arjuna was a devotee, and he was in touch with the Supreme Lord in friendship”. </B>

The occurrence of time only exists in the perishable mahat-tattva due to the phenomenon of past, present and future where as only the present exists in perpetual Goloka-Vrndavana or Vaikuntha. Therefore, as theist has said, no one says ones svarupa body is sleeping in Goloka. Please understand that once and for all. Because of the absence of the time factor there is no loss of consciousness in Goloka once one’s nitya-baddha consciousness is dissipated and one has returned to the awareness of their nitya-siddha-svarupa body that is perpetually serving Krishna. Once one has returned one realizes herself as the endless nitya-siddha-svarupa-rasa body and the so-called fall was only an illusion...it never happened. "Never happened" because there is no past tense as we know it. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:" /><o:p></o:p> The jiva-tattva or nitya-baddha consciousness (the soul) is not moving from one body to the next. Krishna says the soul is immovable in the Gita. The only movement there is is one of nitya-baddha jiva-s’akti consciousness and not movement as understood and experienced under the influence of material time and space. So from ones marginal svarupa body in Goloka- Vrndavana or Vaikuntha, the marginal nitya-baddha may manifest due to ones choice to ‘dream’ in a separated state from Krishna however, in reality one is never separated from their nitya-siddha-svarupa body and ones rasa with Krishna is not interrupted, they only dream for a moment they are separated. That condition of sub-conscious restricted awareness is called the nitya-baddha conscious condition that enters the mahat-tattva to become covered by the illusion of moving between birth & death, heaven and hell, past & future where that ‘moment’ for the nitya-siddha can be trillions upon trillions of years to the nitya-baddha condition of consciousness.<o:p></o:p> Srila Prabhupada- Originally we have a direct personal relationship with Krishna in the spiritual world. But when we want to take Krishna’s position, we therefore put ourselves into a dreaming state due to our non-Krishna conscious choices. In this dreaming state after we enter the mahat-tattva dream of Maha-Vishnu that is a real but perishable reality in one corner of the Spiritual Sky or creation, we forget our actual position and thus are free to act out our desire in our attempts to become the supreme enjoyer. These mistaken self centered choices or non Krishna conscious dreams, are characterized as being “fallen” from our position in the spiritual world, but Srila Prabhupada explains that in Vaikuntha reality, beyond mundane time and space that governs the mahat-tattva, we are not fallen, We are simply in a dreaming. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Our perpetual nitya-siddha-svarupa-atma-sat-cit-ananda-vigraha Krishna Conscious body does not fall and can never fall from Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha. We simply choose to do ‘our own thing’ and knowingly turn our back on Krishna and the perpetual body we serve Krishna as because of the attachment to pursue our no-Krishna conscious dreams, desires and thoughts that put us in the centre instead of Krishna.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> It is there within that mahat-tattva cloud, the projected secondary consciousness, emanating from ones original perpetual body, which can never fall from Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha, becomes contained in ethereal and biological vessels in a phenomenon of time and space (past, present, future, decay and impermanence) that does not exist in the perpetual Spiritual Sky surrounding the mahat-tattva. Such temporary ethereal and biological bodies are provided by the presiding Deity of the mahat-tattva, Maha-Vishnu and guided (constantly tempted through the mahat-tattva by Maya-Devs’ s’akti, the wife of Maha-Vishnu.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> The mahat-tattva cloud is a real manifestation like the other three quarters of creation or Spiritual Sky however, unlike the perpetual Spiritual Sky; the mahat-tattva or ‘cloud of the dreaming’ is temporary. In other words the mahat-tattva is simply the place where the marginal living entities go when they choose to have their ‘moment’ of non-Krishna conscious dreaming however that ‘moment’ can appear to be trillions of years, then on return to ones rasa body, it will be as if they never left. <o:p></o:p> There is no beginning or end to the creation so in the face of eternity, time has no meaning because no one can measure something that has no beginning or end like all marginal living entities or nitya-siddha-svarupa devotee’s that are said to be emanating from Lord Krishna’s transcendental Vigraha body but have factually always exited without beginning as the Bhagavad Gita as it is tells us. All atma-vigraha ‘souls’ therefore are never created nor do ‘jiva-souls’ appear from the Impersonal Brahmajyoti as some learned Vaishnava scholars, gurus and sanyasis believe. Every living marginal entity has a perpetual nitya-siddha-svarupa body that they have always been for eternity without beginning and without end. Most of the Vedas therefore are dealing with the jiva-s’akti or jiva-tattva which is seeing everything from the viewpoint of the secondary nitya-baddha consciousness and not the nitya-siddha perpetual body. In other words, modern day 21<SUP>st</SUP> century Vaishnavism is seeing everything from the viewpoint of the nitya-baddha consciousness which is only ‘consciousness’ and has no form until given ethereal and biological bodies or vessels by Maha-Vishnu. The description of sparks in the effulgence or a particle or atom in a ray of light is correctly describing the nitya-baddha consciousness in the mahat-tattva and the nitya-baddha jiva-tatastha consciousness in the surrounding Impersonal aspect of the Brahmajyoti that separates Vaikuntha from the maha-tattva. The other 75% of creation is full of nitya-siddha devotee of whom some are simultaneously in the mahat-tattva as a bodiless conscious projection.<o:p></o:p>

The occurrence of time only exists in the perishable mahat-tattva due to the phenomenon of past, present and future where as only the present exists in perpetual Goloka-Vrndavana or Vaikuntha Therefore, as theist has said, no one says ones svarupa body is sleeping in Goloka. Please understand that once and for all. Because of the absence of the time factor there is no loss of consciousness in Goloka once one’s nitya-baddha consciousness is dissipated and one has returned to the awareness of their nitya-siddha-svarupa body that is perpetually serving Krishna. Once one has returned one realizes herself as the endless nitya-siddha-svarupa-rasa body and the so-called fall was only an illusion...it never happened. "Never happened" because there is no past tense as we know it. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:" /><o:p></o:p> The jiva-tattva or nitya-baddha consciousness (the soul) is not moving from one body to the next. Krishna says the soul is immovable in the Gita. The only movement there is is one of nitya-baddha jiva-s’akti consciousness and not movement as understood and experienced under the influence of material time and space. So from ones marginal svarupa body in Goloka- Vrndavana or Vaikuntha, the marginal nitya-baddha may manifest due to ones choice to ‘dream’ in a separated state from Krishna however, in reality one is never separated from their nitya-siddha-svarupa body and ones rasa with Krishna is not interrupted, they only dream for a moment they are separated. That condition of sub-conscious restricted awareness is called the nitya-baddha conscious condition that enters the mahat-tattva to become covered by the illusion of moving between birth & death, heaven and hell, past & future where that ‘moment’ for the nitya-siddha can be trillions upon trillions of years to the nitya-baddha condition of consciousness.<o:p></o:p> Srila Prabhupada- Originally we have a direct personal relationship with Krishna in the spiritual world. But when we want to take Krishna’s position, we therefore put ourselves into a dreaming state due to our non-Krishna conscious choices. In this dreaming state after we enter the mahat-tattva dream of Maha-Vishnu that is a real but perishable reality in one corner of the Spiritual Sky or creation, we forget our actual position and thus are free to act out our desire in our attempts to become the supreme enjoyer. These mistaken self centered choices or non Krishna conscious dreams, are characterized as being “fallen” from our position in the spiritual world, but Srila Prabhupada explains that in Vaikuntha reality, beyond mundane time and space that governs the mahat-tattva, we are not fallen, We are simply in a dreaming. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Our perpetual nitya-siddha-svarupa-atma-sat-cit-ananda-vigraha Krishna Conscious body does not fall and can never fall from Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha. We simply choose to do ‘our own thing’ and knowingly turn our back on Krishna and the perpetual body we serve Krishna as because of the attachment to pursue our no-Krishna conscious dreams, desires and thoughts that put us in the centre instead of Krishna.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> It is there within that mahat-tattva cloud, the projected secondary consciousness, emanating from ones original perpetual body, which can never fall from Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha, becomes contained in ethereal and biological vessels in a phenomenon of time and space (past, present, future, decay and impermanence) that does not exist in the perpetual Spiritual Sky surrounding the mahat-tattva. Such temporary ethereal and biological bodies are provided by the presiding Deity of the mahat-tattva, Maha-Vishnu and guided (constantly tempted through the mahat-tattva by Maya-Devs’ s’akti, the wife of Maha-Vishnu.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> The mahat-tattva cloud is a real manifestation like the other three quarters of creation or Spiritual Sky however, unlike the perpetual Spiritual Sky; the mahat-tattva or ‘cloud of the dreaming’ is temporary.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> In other words the mahat-tattva is simply the place where the marginal living entities go when they choose to have their ‘moment’ of non-Krishna conscious dreaming however that ‘moment’ can appear to be trillions of years, then on return to ones rasa body, it will be as if they never left.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> There is no beginning or end to the creation so in the face of eternity, time has no meaning because no one can measure something that has no beginning or end like all marginal living entities or nitya-siddha-svarupa devotee’s that are said to be emanating from Lord Krishna’s transcendental Vigraha body but have factually always exited without beginning as the Bhagavad Gita as it is tells us. All atma-vigraha ‘souls’ therefore are never created nor do ‘jiva-souls’ appear from the Impersonal Brahmajyoti as some learned Vaishnava scholars, gurus and sanyasis believe. Every living marginal entity has a perpetual nitya-siddha-svarupa body that they have always been for eternity without beginning and without end. Most of the Vedas therefore are dealing with the jiva-s’akti or jiva-tattva which is seeing everything from the viewpoint of the secondary nitya-baddha consciousness and not the nitya-siddha perpetual body. In other words, modern day 21<SUP>st</SUP> century Vaishnavism is seeing everything from the viewpoint of the nitya-baddha consciousness which is only ‘consciousness’ and has no form until given ethereal and biological bodies or vessels by Maha-Vishnu. The description of sparks in the effulgence or a particle or atom in a ray of light is correctly describing the nitya-baddha consciousness in the mahat-tattva and the nitya-baddha jiva-tatastha consciousness in the surrounding Impersonal aspect of the Brahmajyoti that separates Vaikuntha from the maha-tattva. The other 75% of creation is full of nitya-siddha devotee of whom some are simultaneously in the mahat-tattva as a bodiless conscious projection.<o:p></o:p>

I heard a class in Melbourne 22/5/07 by Hari Sauri and his recollections of Srila Prabhupada are very encouraging, I am reading his books on Srila Prabhupada and I cannot help feeling that regardless of all the struggles and difficulties we experience in the material world, there is still a chance that all of us, even the most fallen and wretched, can one day see the truth by the causeless mercy of Srila Prabhupada. Thank you for the nectar Hari Sauri. All glories to Srila Prabhupada!!

<TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> We see that 75% of creation is the Goloka-Vrndavan/Vaikutha realm and 25% is the material or maha-tattva creation, in other words 25% of the nitya-siddhas have chosen to activate their secondary nitya-baddha consciousness or dreaming life force (jiva-sakti) and enter the impermanent dreams of Maha-Vishnu in a sub-conscious dreaming state due to their non-Krishna conscious desires. It is therefore clear that 25% of the marginal vigrahas do enter the non-Krishna Conscious mahat-tattva cloud which numbers are enormous yet only 25% choose to make that conscious plunge as the Srimad Bhagavatam teaches us as shown in the painting above. It’s hard to get our mind around this fact because many of us have the frog in the well mentality in our present day Spiritual primitive 21<SUP>st</SUP> century society in Kali-yuga. And yes trillions and trillions choose to transmigrate ‘consciously’ to the mahat-tattva, otherwise what need would there be for such a creation? Krishna simply gives us choice, which is the constitutional position of all of Krishna’s marginal emanations. Yet remember it is only 1 /4 of creation ‘consciously’ enter the mahat-tattva, 1/4 of all marginal nitya-siddha-vigrahas who consciously enter the mahat-tattva or material manifestation, but never as their perpetual vigraha bodily form. Everything in Krishna’s Abode is always eternally there because of the perpetual and imperishable nature of His Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha Spiritual Sky or Abode The various Vedic texts tell us that the Kingdom of Krishna is an eternal active place of boundless pastimes where nothing perishes. Everything in Krishna’s Abode is always eternally there because of the perpetual and imperishable nature of His Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha Spiritual Sky or Abode. This means ones eternal, perpetual, unchanging, continuous, everlasting, ceaseless, never ending, long lasting nitya-siddha-atma-vigraha Krishna Conscious body is always there and can never leave or fall down because of the eternal nature of Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha. Perpetual means nothing there can decay perish or disappear. As already mentioned and must be constantly emphasised, this means all of us have an eternal form and relationship that is always with Krishna in His everlasting Abode. This Krishna Conscious Vigraha self is forever there and has always been there, even though from time to time, we are ‘consciously’ unaware of that unending reality. This is due to our forgetfulness and dreaming non-Krishna conscious fantasies that create our mirage like insignificant secondary consciousness (real but temporary), that transmits ‘the self interested thoughts one wants created’, to the the mahat-tattva (material universe). In a uncomplicated way of trying to understand this, all of us dream when we sleep, the dreams we have in our biological body or vessel appear real and while immersed in that dream state one forgets their biological body they are dreaming from. In a similar way, the non-Krishna Conscious thoughts, convictions or ‘dreams’ manifest a separate dreaming version of the self (that is real but temporary) and while in that dreaming state or secondary consciousness (jiva-bhutah), we forget our genuine Krishna conscious bodily form. Keep in mind, on the absolute level, unlike the mundane biological level dreaming; ones non-Krishna conscious thoughts or dreams (nitya-baddha lower consciousness) are as real as their perpetual nitya-siddha body, with a major difference, they are expressed through counterfeit bodily vessels within the mahat-tattva and are therefore temporary. All ethereal and biological vessels as well as their material surroundings are provided by Maha-Vishnu for the purpose of allowing one in their secondary conscious state to live out those dreams, thoughts and desires. Such non-Krishna Conscious thoughts and desires cannot exist within the same devotional space that all their perpetual Krishna Conscious bodies exist in (namely Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha). In this way, it is ones ‘non Krishna Conscious desires cause one to consciously enter the mahat-tattva cloud. All self-centered desires, dreams or thoughts expel themselves from Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha perpetual portion of the Spiritual Sky due to the selfish independent desires (choices) to no longer want to be with Krishna. To remain in the Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha abode, one has to be Krishna Conscious. In this way ones non-Krishna Conscious thoughts, dreams and desires cannot remain there and are transferred as a secondary conscious state (jiva-bhutah) to a far distant transient place in the Spiritual Sky set aside for such temporary thoughts, dreams or desires. Those desires, thoughts and dreams, represented by the jiva-bhutah consciousness, are provided ethereal and biological containers provided by Maha-Vishnu to chase their dream, in some cases for an almost eternity. This place of ‘the dreaming’ is called the mahat-tattva. When one is awake in their biological body, or when one is dreaming in that body, it is still the same ‘self’ existing on two completely different levels of consciousness at the same time, one in the biological body, the other as dreamed up fantasies the biological body is dreaming. Such dreams appear real while ones biological body is sleeping, so real, one completely forgets the biological body one is dreaming from. The nitya-siddha devotee's and their secondary nitya-baddha dreaming consciousness, (when the latter is activated), are both the divided (Personal and Impersonal) marginal emanations perpetually surrounding Krishnas Supreme Vigraha form that makes Krishna the complete whole or the entire creation. "Because the living being can appear either in matter or in spirit, the jiva is called the marginal potency" CC Adi 5.41 pp. Srila Prabhupada explains that ‘marginal’ means the tendency of the living being to reject the sanction of the Lord and act independently within the material creation or mahat-tattva. The Supreme Lord has two energies, material (mahat-tattva cloud) and spiritual (the Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha realm where Krishna and His marginal nitya-siddha devotees serve). The living entities are marginal energy. As marginal energy, ones consciousness may be under the spell of the inanimate material energy (the mahat-tattva) under the control of Maha-Vishnu and Maha-Maya or the devotional Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha Spiritual Sky under the control of Krishnas internal Yoga-Maya. "The living entity (jiva-atma) takes different positions - sometimes he merges into the dark material nature and identifies himself with matter (ethereal and biological bodies), and sometimes he identifies himself with the superior spiritual nature (atma-vigraha perpetual self). Therefore, he is called the Lords marginal energy. " BG 8.3 pp. "The fact is that individual living entities are eternally part and parcel of the Supreme Lord, and both of them are very intimately related as friends. But the living entity has the tendency to reject the sanctions of the Supreme Lord and act independently in an attempt to dominate the supreme nature, and because he has this tendency, he is called the marginal energy of the Supreme Lord. " BG 13.23 . So, marginal energy is not a particular place or area in outer space where souls drop from, but it denotes the nature of the jiva-atma-vigraha. It refers to a living being with the character of independently choosing between Krishnas two Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha or the mahat-tattva. Therefore, the living beings do not expand from their jiva-tatastha aspect of marginal consciousness. This marginal energy (niya-siddha’s higher and nitya baddha lower expression of consciousness) is an expansion of Lord Krishna, who is the origin of the living beings. If marginal beings (the living entity with its independent nature, original rasa body and the ability to extend its life force jiva-sakti sub-consciously out of that rasa body) choose to be in contact with the external energy of the Lord, it still remains marginal. (See CC Adi 2.96) If the marginal living beings as their secondary conscious extention that finds shelter in the mahat-tattva, eventually chooses, after many, many births in the mahat-tattva, decides to go back home, back to Godhead (Goloka), on return, one will still find they have their marginal independence even as their full potential perpetual nitya-siddha Krishna Conscious body. Returning back to Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha does not change ones individual marginal position into internal energy (cit-sakti) and become Vishnu-tattva-Vigraha. Although the nitya-siddhas are equal in quality to the internal potency of Krishna (which is spiritual or a place where nothing other than living vigrahas exist serving Krishna the Supreme Vigraha), they nevertheless keep their marginal independence. Marginal nitya-siddha-vigraha devotees can choose to live seperately within their sub-conscious dreams that are extended as the jiva-sakti and called the nitya-baddha dreaming conscious extention, this is a secondary transformation of Krishna's marginal personalities. The Impersonal Brahmajyoti is simple the transformation of marginal individual consciousness, this is an important point to understand. The nitya-siddha body is serving Krishna eternally and can never leave Goloka, yet from time to time, due to choice, may enter into a dreaming sub-conscious lower self nitya-baddha condition that can only exist within the dreams of Maha-Vishnu within the maha-tattva or within the non-dream tatastha condition we call the Impersonal Brahmajyoti. The Impersonal Brahmajyoti is simple a further transformation of marginal individual nitya-baddha consciousnesses into an inactive state after going through the mahat-tattva, this is an important point to understand. Ones awareness of their surroundings can be situated either in the external mahat-tattva as their non-Krishna conscious nitya-baddha consciousness, or remain in the internal Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha Kingdom of God as their full conscious nitya-siddha bodily self. One can choose to be as their Krishna Conscious perpetual body or float away to the mahat-tattva in non-Krishna conscious dreams as their nitya-baddha jiva-sakti consciousness. In this way, the living being is situated in proportionally higher or lower levels of existence. If marginal consciousness can freely choose to be situated in either external or internal energy, then marginal consciousness (because of ones free will) can also choose to leave either external or internal consciousness therefore those who believe they cannot fall ‘consciously’ from Vaikuntha are deluding themselves and misleading their followers.

<table><tbody><tr><td> </td></tr></tbody></table> This state of nitya-baddha dreaming consciousness is then transferred to within the mahat-tattva cloud (material universe) and into the dreams of Maha-Vishnu, which are real but temporary and then housed in ethereal and eventually biological bodies provided by Maha-Vishnu. These bodily suits enables the visiting jiva-sakti, jiva-tattva, jiva-prakriti, jiva-bhutah and about 170 other jiva consciousness conditions to enter the enclosed atmosphere of the mahat-tattva or material creation, just as a space suit allows one to enter the realms of outerspace out of our earthly atmoshere.

The wonderful Maha Vishnu who's dreams are the also the realitites of ones nitya-baddha consciousness that manifests as a sub-conscious alternative to ones perpetual nitya-siddha-svarupa body in Gloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha. Garbhodakasayi Vishnu the first expansion of Maha-Vishnu It is within the wonderful and terrible dreams of sleeping Maha-Vishnu, who is the Over Lord of the Maha-tattva and the provider of ethereal and biological vessels, that ones nitya-baddha consciousness or jiva-tattva is housed so the extended jiva-tattva consciousness can act out their non-Krishna Conscious thoughts, desires and dreams without Krishna directly. Of course Krishna (technically Balarama, Krishnas' older brother) is always with them as the Paramātma (Kshirodakasayi Vishnu) and provides the jiva-tattva consciousness with eveything they desire or dream off as long as they earn it according to the karmic laws that govern the mahat-tattva.

Everyone relax and read the following wonderful pastime How is it one can forget Goloka-Vrndavan? The following is a pastime (Lila) of the great sage Narada-Muni that took place walking with Krishna outside the walls of Dwarka in Goloka-Vrindavan. Krishna was about to teach Narada a valuable lesson about the powerful effects of Maya (forgetfulness) Narada Muni, a great Devotee of Lord Krishna, was once walking outside the perimeter of Dwarka (one of Krishna’s great Palaces) with the Lord. As they walked, Narada asked Krishna, “How is it one can forget such a beautiful place as Goloka-Vrndavan? ‘How could a devotee forget Krishna and end up in the temporary material world in an ethereal (heavenly) or biological (earthly) body?” Narada looked at Krishna in total ecstasy and bliss wondering how anyone could leave such beauty. He was confused, as he new the material universe was full of souls, who all were previously with Krishna in their only genuine eternal form that is perpetually endowed with an imperishable identity, personality and individuality, who did exactly that – forgot Krishna and their own real identity by turning their back on Him and manufacturing so many counterfeit identities, personalities and forms outside of Goloka-Vrindavan within the temporary material universe, how could this happen? As they walked through the forest, a young girl caught Narada’s attention; she was struggling to carry two buckets of water near a well. Out of pity, Narada went over and offered his helping hand to the struggling girl; she gladly accepted his offer, as she was exhausted. Gladly and compassionate Narada Muni carried the two buckets of water and proceeded to the girls’ destination at a nearby Village. On the way there, the simplicity and innocents of this beautiful young girl was so sweet and captivating that Narada was speechless in her association. She broke the silence by explaining she was the daughter of the Village elder and her father was a great leader and devotee of Krishna. Narada, however was so captivated by the girl’s sweet voice, flowing long hair and colourful sari, he was not listening. He was totally dumbfounded in her presents. When they arrived at the Village, the girl introduced her new friend to her father. He was very impressed by Narada’s qualities, and thought this man must be a great devotee of Lord Krishna. He immediately further thought ‘what a nice husband this young man would make for my daughter’ The Village elder felt obligated to reward Narada for his service. All the Villagers gathered around thinking Narada must be a great Sage and suggested the best reward for him was the village elder’s daughter in marriage. Narada Muni was so attached and comfortable with the girl that he accepted the offering! The wedding day arrived and everyone in the surrounding area came. The Village Brahmin’s (priests) performed the fire yajna (purification ceremony) and many gifts were given. After the marriage Narada and his new wife settled in performing various duties. Narada eventually became the Head Master of the Gurukula (school). In due course his wife fell pregnant with their first child. A boy was born and the Village was ecstatic, celebrating late into the night. As time went on, Narada’s happiness increased being with his family and living in the Village, he never had a worry in the world. Over the years he was bestowed another six children. He enjoyed watching them grow, becoming educated and playing sporting games with them. All his children were adorned with beautiful qualities. Twenty years had passed, his father in-law, the Village elder, passed away suddenly due to illness; everyone was saddened and would only accept Narada as the new Village elder. Many more years passed and he eventually gave permission to a young boy to marry his daughter. Everything was so perfect, so peaceful. Narada was totally satisfied with his wife, children, grandchildren and all the wonderful people in the Village. Then one day an enormous storm came to the Village, pelting heavy rain with strong winds that destroyed houses. Narada decided he must immediately evacuate the Village, but it was too late, flooding had made it impossible to escape. The storm became more intense, the water level was rising fast and raging torrents destroyed everything in its path. Narada frantically searched for his wife, children, grandchildren and friends, He found himself trapped on a plank of wood in the raging torrents looking everywhere through the hail, wind and ragging water for his wife, but new she must have been washed away by the flood. His son in law and daughter also found a plank of wood attempting to ride out the storm however, it only got worse and they eventually lost their footing and also perished. Then to Narada’s amazement he saw two of his young grand children high up in a tree holding on to dear life. Narada reached out to them screaming, “Just hold on to me, give me your hand and I will save you!” They reached out and at the same time a huge wave overpowered all of them, frantically Narada searched through the water screaming out for his grandchildren, but they also had perished. He continued calling out, “Don’t leave me, just hold on somehow, don’t leave me!” Then he also perished in the flood At that exact moment, Narada felt a tap on the shoulder, he slowly opened his eyes still lamenting and wanting to be with his family. He found himself sitting against a well; again Narada yelled out in bewilderment, “Where is my family?” Then realized the tap on the shoulder was from Krishna standing next to him. Krishna laughed and said, “You wanted to know how powerful Maya (forgetfulness) was, so I showed you. You have been sitting against that well for no more than a moment!” Coming to his senses, Narada says to Krishna, “You mean all that experience, my wife, my children, my friends, my wealth, my fame, my followers, the Village, was a dream?” Krishna replies, “No, it is all real but everything outside my Kingdom is impermanent, your entire experience was a lesson to show you how easy it is for a devotee in Goloka-Vrindavan, who is eternally liberated, until they choose not to be as you have just done, to be captivated by Maya (forgetfulness and illusion) and fall to a temporary body of forgetfulness birth, disease, old age short memory and death to experience the impermanent nature that exists only within My material universe outside My Eternal abode of Goloka Vrindavan/Vaikuntha. In My Spiritual Universe, there is no death, however as soon as you chose to forget Me and help the girl, you were immediately transferred to My material universe and experienced the fleeting forgetful nature of the transitory universe, including death by drowning. This is because you were attached to something other than loving devotional service to Me; (Krishna or God) you chose to turn your back on me just for a moment to help the young girl and became captivated by your own selfless compassion to help her, so much so you forgot Me! That moment seemed like a lifetime. Genuine selflessness is doing everything for My pleaser and you, along with others, simply become inattentive. Many of my devotees experience this illusion like you have as Lila (pastime), so I can teach them a valuable lesson however, others who first choose turn their back on me, eventually become attracted to the flicking beauty of Maya, unfortunately they can remain in the material universe forgetting their true form, identify, personality and individuality for almost what appears to be an eternity, transmigrating through many millions of counterfeit bodies in their search for so called happiness. Enough is never enough in the material universe. In the material world, this is like chasing after a mirage in the desert that only appears real, but in reality is only an illusion. The impermanent universe is both real and an illusion because it is transitory. This is what temporary ethereal (heavenly or hellish) and biological (earthly) bodies in the material universe are like, they all end in disappointment because they fade away because everything one has accumulated and worked so hard to achieve is lost and ultimately forgotten – everything just fades in time. Conditioned souls who are trapped in the material universe experience that ‘moment of being away from my Kingdom’ as billions upon billions of life times in billions of different bodies that seem like an eternity, so much so, many foolishly come to believe the Impersonal inactive effulgent Brahmajoyti, or bright light, which is the motionless effulgence of trillions of individual jivas surrounding My body, is the starting and ending point of their existence. All of them have forgotten their real form and relationship with Me in Goloka-Vrindavan This is very difficult to understand without My favour because it is very complicated for you to understand the eternal stage on which all this illusion within the impermanent material universe is unfolding. In actual fact, all of those jivas were once like you and had a personal intimate relationship with Me in Goloka-Vrindavan, they still do, but have temporally forgotten. As in your case of sitting against the well and captivated by absent-mindedness just for a moment, the consciousness of those who choose to leave My Personal abode and their real form, identity, personality and individually have also become forgetful, leaving behind their original form, just as you did Narada, in Goloaka-Vrindavan. On leaving your true identity you then fabricate numerus counterfeit forms, identities and personalities like one does in a dream at night. Some in this way transfer their consciousness to the material universe, as your consciousness had just experienced, to peruse their back on Me and pursue their own interests. In actual fact there is no beginning or ending point of the jiva, this Impersonal conclusion by some lost souls, which includes many learned Vaisnavas and caste Goswamis (My devotees), have miss understood their eternal relationship with Me that is always there in Goloka-Vrindavan, even if they have forgotten. Their idea that the soul originates from the Brahmajoyti is due to the long association they have had within many fleeting bodies within the temporary universe, being trapped within forgetfulness and sensual identity and association for so, so long, that they have forgotten their original form, identity, personality individuality and selfless devotional love in their eternal relationship with Me as you, Narada, have just done. Even a great devotee like you should never underestimate the power of My Maya (forgetfulness and illusion) if you choose first to enter Her domain”! ( What is Maya? Maya: - forgetfulness, illusion, ‘that which is not’, a personality who controls the impermanent energy, i.e., the ethereal (heavenly and hellish) and biological (earthly) container the soul manifests, as well as the mental delusions suffered by the forgetful jiva after leaving the Kingdom of God. Maya’s duty is to make sure no one disturbs Krishna by offering the aspiring devotees wealth, riches, beauty (female or male), and knowledge of the celestial technological heavenly realms and technologically earthly realm as a test to see what one really wants.) Human civilizations throughout the centuries have repeatedly attempted to build a permanent existence as well as prepare their present bodies with wealth and belongings to take with them into a heavenly ‘after-life’ where they believe they will live forever, why this is not possible in this temporary world will be fully explained in this thesis. From the beginning of time, so many cultures have tried to prepare, with their inherent instinctual belief in an after life, to enter a Perpetual Kingdom of God. They unfortunately mistakenly come to believe that this transitory universe, with its heavenly rewards, is their real home (Explained later when explaining the heavenly planets within the interim creation in higher levels of the material universe existing in a non-biological sub-space dimension). All things must pass The attempt to achieve happiness, love and sensual pleasures in an impermanent atmosphere will, in due course, frustrates an intelligent human being because; in the end, all they have worked so hard to build up over their lifetime is all taken away. Whatever material acquisitions built up over their lifetime eventually wears out and erodes away. Ultimately they loose everything anyway as forgetfulness, disease, old age and death over comes them. The phenomenon of death, also known as ‘forgetfulness’, is an abnormal state the jiva or individual life force is overcome by while traveling in and identifying with the outward biological human bodily garment or vehicle while contained in the temporary universe. The attempt to build a perpetual blissful home on earth in a biological body, or in heaven in a non-biological ethereal body is not possible because everything eventually breaks down and fades away in the impermanent material universe. Even in the heavenly planets, that are rewards for Jains, Buddhists, Christians, Muslims, Jews and most branches of Hinduism, due to their performance of penance and austerity, exists only a temporary celestial manifestation within the boundaries of the material universe where one can live for thousands of years but also must pass on. Only jivas who fall from the Brahmajoyti, having first originally previously first fallen from Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavan long, long, long before they mistakenly accepted the Impersonal Brahmajoyti as their origins, have to start their active existence from the beginnings of biological life. Only after billions of life times, do they unfortunately make their way to the Brahmajoyti. They do not know or remember how they were introduced or originally fell from Goloka-Vrindavan/Vaikuntha to the temporary universe in the first place and foolishly believe the Brahmajoyti is both the source of their existence and liberation. Unfortunately the separation of the individual jiva from Krishna’s Personal abode has been so long a period of time they foolishly believe their origins are the Brahmajoyti. These jivas, who think they have originated from the Brahmajoyti, first manifest an ethereal body that stays with them for as long as they exist in the impermanent universe. From that ethereal body all other insubstantial and biological forms are projected. Coming from the Brahmajoyti means these embodied jivas have to start their active existence from the most basic form of life first attained after leaving that effulgent light. From there the now embodied jiva has to go through the billions of biological bodily mapped out by evolution until the human body is again attained. It must be made clear this extremely lengthy process is only for the jivas who have previously merged there identity, individuality, personality and form into a minute spark of individual living light and therefore have entered or merged themselves (individual spark) into the brightness of the Impersonal Brahmajoyti, have to start off at the very basis of biological life when they again re-emerge from their Impersonal slumber. Impersonalism is a very dangerous philosophy to follow and is often referred to by devotees of Krishna as Spiritual suicide. The Impersonal effulgence or Brahman is where unlimited other ‘inactive jivas’ exist and vibrate their form impersonally as individual living sparks of light that collectively make up what is also known as the Impersonal Nirvana. All of them who enter the Brahmajoyti, except for some rare Impersonalist yogis, have to start at scratch (entering the body of a microbe) when they eventually desire activity and fall out of that Impersonal sense of oneness. Followers of Lord Buddha and the Jains practice sever penance and austerities attempting to free themselves from karma. Their austerity however, has the side effect of accumulating pious karma that allows them entry into the heavenly planets. These higher dimensional supernatural worlds, known as the heavenly planets, exist in sub-space which are a insubstantial manifestation of the temporary material energy where the ethereal non-biological body, that is temporary but not material (lifeless energy), contains the eternal jiva or soul and resides separate encased in the ethereal living body apart from that lifeless sub-space-matter that the sub-space heavenly and hellish planets are made of. In this thesis it should be made clear the words material and matter is lifeless substance or energy. In other words we do not live in a material body but rather we live in an ethereal body that further creates a biological covering. Matter and material refers to the lifeless by products left over by the embodied jivas once they vacate the biological body. Both the jivas ethereal bodies or containments and the surrounding sub-space lifeless material energy are not generally perceived by the embodied ‘jivas projected biological containments’ that the ethereal body eventually manifests as a further extension of the ethereal body. The biological restraint or body covers the ethereal body and resides in a dimension like our earthly planet that is called secular space which is far more gross and solid than sub-space matter however, both realities are material where as the ethereal body and its extended biological body are material vessels powered by the billions of extended jiva-tattva consciousnessess that originates from their svarupa body in Goloka-Vrndavana. The ethereal body in material sub-space is also called the supernatural-realm; where as the biological containment in secular-space is called the natural-realm. Both the natural and the supernatural are not spiritual; they are different dimensions within the material realm.

Why is this so difficult for so many to understand? <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Simple answer, they all think they are their material bodies and lack the devotion and the attachment to Srila Prabhupada and the chanting of Hare Krishna. <o:p></o:p> Srila Prabhupada has described what follows on other posts I have made and I suggest the below should be read again and again to understand the true facts of our existence in the material world.<o:p></o:p> In this way we can all defeat the Impersonalists who masquerade as Gaudiya Vaishnava's and pollute innocent aspiring devotes who follow their nonsense Mayavardi brahmajyoti origins of the soul. - HARE KRISHNA. All glories to Srila Prabhupada the Jagat Guru<o:p></o:p> Dear friends, if you want to enjoy with your materialistic friends, then don`t visit the place near Kesi-ghata. Don`t see the Deity of Krsna, known as Govinda, as He stands attractively in His three-fold bending form, sweetly smiling and casting captivating side-long glances as He holds His flute to His ruby red lips and wearing a peacock crown. <o:p> </o:p> I humbly ask all aspiring devotees to try and understand the following shatric knowledge and bonafide facts explained by Srila Prabhupada.<o:p></o:p> All of us dream when we sleep, the dreams we have in our biological body or vessel appear real and while immersed in that dream state one forget their biological body they are dreaming from. <o:p></o:p> In a similar way, but on the absolute level and not the mundane biological level, ones thoughts and dreams are as real as ones actions, the non-Krishna Conscious thoughts, convictions or ‘dreams’ manifest a separate dreaming version of the self (that is real but temporary) and while in that dreaming state or secondary consciousness (jiva-bhutah conditioned state), we forget our genuine Krishna conscious bodily form. <o:p></o:p> Keep in mind, on the absolute level, unlike the mundane biological level; ones thoughts or dreams are as real as their nitya-siddha body, with a major difference, they are broadcasted as sub-conscious dreams as a life force we call the jiva-sakti that is then transferred to the dreams (in the nitya-baddha lower self condition) of Maha-Vishnu and expressed through counterfeit bodily vessels within the mahat-tattva.<o:p></o:p> Maha-Vishnu through his various representatives offers the visiting jiva-sakti consciousness various bodily vehicals so they can come into the mahat-tattva or material creation from the outside, which is the surrounding Vaikunthas where there genuine perpetual rasa body exists. <o:p></o:p> This material creation is nothing other than the non-Krishna conscious dreams of the nitya-siddhas whether you believe it or not. All ethereal and biological vessels as well as their material surroundings are provided by Maha-Vishnu for the purpose of allowing one in their secondary conscious state (conditional life) to live out those dreams, thoughts and desires.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Such non-Krishna Conscious thoughts and desires cannot exist within the same devotional space that all their perpetual Krishna Conscious bodies exist in (namely Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha). In this way, it is ones ‘non <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place> Conscious desires’ (jiva-sakti) cause one to sub-consciously enter the mahat-tattva cloud. Above is the mahat-tattva where Maha-Vishnu's dreams are similtaniously the dreams of the conditioned souls or the nitya-siddhas secondary consciousness (nitya-baddha) that is transferred into the maha-tattva originating from the surrounding Vaikunthas The various Vedic texts tell us that the <st1:place w:st="on"><st1>Kingdom</st1></st1:place><st1:place w:st="on"><st1> Name </st1></st1:place> is an eternal active place of boundless pastimes where nothing perishes. Everything in Krishna’s Abode is always eternally there because of the perpetual and imperishable nature of His Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha Spiritual Sky or Abode, this means ones eternal, perpetual, unchanging, continious, everlasting, ceasless, never ending, long lasting, continual jivatma vigraha is ALWAYS there and can NEVER leave because of the eternal nature of Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha. Perpetual means nothing there can decay perish or disappear. As already mentioned and must be constantly emphasised, this means all of us have an eternal form and relationship that is always with Krishna in His everlasting Abode that is forever there and has always been there, even though from time to time, we are consciously unaware of this unending reality due to our forgetfulness and fantasies that create our mirage like insignificant secondary consciousness (real but temporary) that transmits ‘the thoughts one wants created’ to the material universe in the jiva-bhutah condition consciousness known as the nitya-baddha proviso of existence within the mahat-tattva (material universe). In a uncomplicated way of trying to understand this, all of us dream when we sleep, the dreams we have in our biological body or vessel appear real and while immersed in that dream state one forgets their biological body they are dreaming from. In a similar way, the non-Krishna Conscious thoughts, convictions or ‘dreams’ manifest a separate dreaming version of the self (that is real but temporary) and while in that dreaming state or secondary consciousness (jiva-bhutah), we forget our genuine Krishna conscious bodily form. Keep in mind, on the absolute level, unlike the mundane biological level; ones thoughts or dreams are as real as their atma-jiva-vigraha body, with a major difference, they are expressed through counterfeit bodily vessels within the mahat-tattva. All ethereal and biological vessels as well as their material surroundings are provided by Maha-Vishnu for the purpose of allowing one in their secondary conscious state to live out those dreams, thoughts and desires. Such non-Krishna Conscious thoughts and desires cannot exist within the same devotional space that all their perpetual Krishna Conscious bodies exist in (namely Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha). In this way, it is ones ‘non <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place> Conscious desires’ cause one to consciously enter the mahat-tattva cloud. All self-centered desires, dreams or thoughts expel themselves from Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha perpetual portion of the Spiritual Sky due to the selfish independent desires (choices) to no longer want to be with <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place>. To remain in the Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha abode, one has to be Krishna Conscious. In this way ones non-Krishna Conscious thoughts, dreams and desires cannot remain there and are transferred as a secondary conscious state (jiva-bhutah) to a far distant transient place in the Spiritual Sky set aside for such temporary thoughts, dreams or desires. Those desires, thoughts and dreams, represented by the jiva-bhutah consciousness, are provided ethereal and biological containers provided by Maha-Vishnu to chase their dream, in some cases for an almost eternity. This place of ‘the dreaming’ is called the mahat-tattva. When one is awake in their biological body, or when one is dreaming in that body, it is still the same ‘self’ existing on two completely different levels of consciousness at the same time, one in the biological body, the other as dreamed up fantasies the biological body is dreaming. Such dreams appear real while ones biological body is sleeping, so real, one completely forgets the biological body one is dreaming from. In a comparable way, whens ones dreams or thoughts are not <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place> conscious, they create a secondary conscious state called the jiva-bhutah conscious condition. This state of consciousness is then transferred to within the mahat-tattva cloud (material universe), which is real but temporary. In this way, the thoughts of ones lower self, unlike the illusionary unreal dreams one has while their biological body is sleeping, are actually a real reality but subject to decay. Remember, on this level of consciousness, your thoughts are your actions and stays that way while even contained in ethereal vessels within the material heavenly planets. Only in the middle planets of biological vessels are ones thoughts and dreams suppressed. Ones sleeping biological body dreaming, is only an analogy and it does not mean the biological understanding of dreaming is the way we dream ourselves out of the Vaikuntha’s. There is a difference, ones dreams within Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha are non different from reality or actions. In other words, if one has non-Krishna Conscious thoughts, dreams or desires, they cannot experience those thoughts, desires or dreams in the devotionally uninterrupted KingdomKrishna. To experience such self-centered dreams and desires, the secondary consciousness (jiva-bhutah) is extended to the mahat-tattva or material universe. In this way, ones secondary consciousness is transferred to within the confines and restrictions (being contained in ethereal and biological vessels) of mahat-tattva when one is unaware of their real original identity and form (The atma-vigraha <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place> Conscious body). As already explained, this means all of us (all marginal living entities) have an eternal shape, form, body and connection that is forever with Krishna in His everlasting Abode which is infinitely eternal even though from moment to moment, we may choose to consciously deny of this everlasting reality due to our desire to experience existence separate from Krishna. Only then, after that choice is made, does forgetfulness enter the equation where ones fantasies of independent grandeur is created by our dreaming secondary consciousness that transmits one to the material universe (mahat-tattva) or nitya-baddha forgetful condition of existence as the jiva-bhutah conscious condition The Material Dream that is real but temporary and exists in one corner of the Spiritual Sky and is called the mahat-tattva