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  1. Relax, Prabhu. I believe I'm the one not fit to groom his dog
  2. Dude, you're a big 'ol wimp Just kidding, I'll check it out!
  3. I just noticed the part in Baraka where the go into the baby bird beak burning part, they play what sounds like the Other One by the Dead: Spanish lady come to me, she lays on me this rose. It rainbow spirals round and round, It trembles and explodes It left a smoking crater of my mind, I like to blow away. But the heat came round and busted me For smilin on a cloudy day [Chorus] Comin', comin', comin' around, comin' around, comin' around in a circle Comin', comin', comin' around, comin' around, in a circle, Comin', comin', comin' around, comin' around, in a circle. Escapin' through the lily fields I came across an empty space It trembled and exploded Left a bus stop in its place The bus came by and I got on That's when it all began There was cowboy Neal At the wheel Of a bus to never-ever land Purport: Devotee comes and gives me the Holy Name, the most precious gift, everything is within it and it blows my false ego to tatters. I realize no where in this material world can I be happy. I have to get off the wheel of birth and death and go back home. I began the journey in the association of the devotees 'on the bus' to Goloka Vrindaban. I'm not there yet, but I'm on my way. Don't want to be a little chick with my beak burned off ever again. Nor the person that burns off the beak, kills the bird, cooks the meat, eats the flesh, or feels like they had a 'good meal.'
  4. I realized I have seen baraka, the part where the burn the baby chick's beaks... Great, beautiful film though.
  5. I know, but when others quote you it doesn't get carried over and is all black text. We are talking particulars here and if you speak French no one will understand. It's kind of like that. Feel free to ignore me though, I don't mind Hari Bol!
  6. How is it a trap? You guys are really funny. When others are wrong you gloat, when you two are wrong others are incorrigable. Whatever. 1. Incapable of being corrected or reformed: an incorrigible criminal. 2. Firmly rooted; ineradicable: incorrigible faults. 3. Difficult or impossible to control or manage: an incorrigible, spoiled child. I happily admit when I'm wrong, please tell me so whenever you think appropriate.
  7. Aren't we all in need of instruction? Even Srila Swami Maharaj called Srila Sridhar Maharaj his Siksha Guru, and Srila Sridhar Maharaj said he was in need of a guardian. So who should speak then Prabhu? You? Me? Who?
  8. <a& v]ja="" )="">sarva-dharmān parityajya</a&> <a& v]ja="" )=""> mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vraja</a&> <a& v]ja="" )=""> ahaṁ tvāṁ sarva-pāpebhyo</a&> <a& v]ja="" )=""> mokṣayiṣyāmi mā śucaḥ</a&> <a& v]ja="" )=""></a&> <a& v]ja="" )=""> </a&> <a& v]ja="" )=""> SYNONYMS</a&> <a& v]ja="" )=""> sarva-dharmān—all varieties of religion; parityajya—abandoning; mām—unto Me; ekam—only; śaraṇam—for surrender; vraja—go; aham—I; tvām—you; sarva—all; pāpebhyaḥ—from sinful reactions; mokṣayiṣyāmi—will deliver; mā—do not; śucaḥ—worry.</a&> <a& v]ja="" )=""> TRANSLATION</a&> <a& v]ja="" )=""> Abandon all varieties of religion and just surrender unto Me. I shall deliver you from all sinful reactions. Do not fear.</a&> <a& v]ja="" )=""> PURPORT</a&> <a& v]ja="" )=""></a&> <a& v]ja="" )=""> The Lord has described various kinds of knowledge and processes of religion—knowledge of the Supreme Brahman, knowledge of the Supersoul, knowledge of the different types of orders and statuses of social life, knowledge of the renounced order of life, knowledge of nonattachment, sense and mind control, meditation, etc. He has described in so many ways different types of religion. Now, in summarizing Bhagavad-gītā, the Lord says that Arjuna should give up all the processes that have been explained to him; he should simply surrender to Kṛṣṇa. That surrender will save him from all kinds of sinful reactions, for the Lord personally promises to protect him. In the Seventh Chapter it was said that only one who has become free from all sinful reactions can take to the worship of Lord Kṛṣṇa. Thus one may think that unless he is free from all sinful reactions he cannot take to the surrendering process. To such doubts it is here said that even if one is not free from all sinful reactions, simply by the process of surrendering to Śrī Kṛṣṇa he is automatically freed. There is no need of strenuous effort to free oneself from sinful reactions. One should unhesitatingly accept Kṛṣṇa as the supreme savior of all living entities. With faith and love, one should surrender unto Him. The process of surrender to Kṛṣṇa is described in the Hari-bhakti-vilāsa (11.676): </a&> <a& v]ja="" )=""> ānukūlyasya saṅkalpaḥ</a&> <a& v]ja="" )=""> prātikūlyasya varjanam</a&> <a& v]ja="" )=""> rakṣiṣyatīti viśvāso</a&> <a& v]ja="" )=""> goptṛtve varaṇaṁ tathā</a&> <a& v]ja="" )=""> ātma-nikṣepa-kārpaṇye</a&> <a& v]ja="" )=""> ṣaḍ-vidhā śaraṇāgatiḥ</a&> <a& v]ja="" )=""></a&> <a& v]ja="" )=""> According to the devotional process, one should simply accept such religious principles that will lead ultimately to the devotional service of the Lord. One may perform a particular occupational duty according to his position in the social order, but if by executing his duty one does not come to the point of Kṛṣṇa consciousness, all his activities are in vain. Anything that does not lead to the perfectional stage of Kṛṣṇa consciousness should be avoided. One should be confident that in all circumstances Kṛṣṇa will protect him from all difficulties. There is no need of thinking how one should keep the body and soul together. Kṛṣṇa will see to that. One should always think himself helpless and should consider Kṛṣṇa the only basis for his progress in life. As soon as one seriously engages himself in devotional service to the Lord in full Kṛṣṇa consciousness, at once he becomes freed from all contamination of material nature. There are different processes of religion and purificatory processes by cultivation of knowledge, meditation in the mystic yoga system, etc., but one who surrenders unto Kṛṣṇa does not have to execute so many methods. That simple surrender unto Kṛṣṇa will save him from unnecessarily wasting time. One can thus make all progress at once and be freed from all sinful reactions. One should be attracted by the beautiful vision of Kṛṣṇa. His name is Kṛṣṇa because He is all-attractive. One who becomes attracted by the beautiful, all-powerful, omnipotent vision of Kṛṣṇa is fortunate. There are different kinds of transcendentalists—some of them are attached to the impersonal Brahman vision, some of them are attracted by the Supersoul feature, etc., but one who is attracted to the personal feature of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and, above all, one who is attracted by the Supreme Personality of Godhead as Kṛṣṇa Himself, is the most perfect transcendentalist. In other words, devotional service to Kṛṣṇa, in full consciousness, is the most confidential part of knowledge, and this is the essence of the whole Bhagavad-gītā. Karma-yogīs, empiric philosophers, mystics and devotees are all called transcendentalists, but one who is a pure devotee is the best of all. The particular words used here, mā śucaḥ, "Don't fear, don't hesitate, don't worry," are very significant. One may be perplexed as to how one can give up all kinds of religious forms and simply surrender unto Kṛṣṇa, but such worry is useless. [As-They-Surrender-Unto-Me ] Not trying to prove a point at all, just wanted to clarify that </a&>sarva-dharmān parityajya is 'abandon all dharmas' not 'surrender to varnashram dharma'. The title of this thread is misleading.
  9. Cool, I'm downloading it now and will check it out soon.
  10. Cool. I used to go see Zero a lot, unfortunately after he passed from this world. I hope he chanted on the mala a bit before he left.
  11. Hey anadi, No offense Prabhu but can you try and use the forum quote system, you made my confused about who was saying what earlier and it would be really helpful. Thanks. regarding your last post :popcorn:I'm eagerly waiting to see the reply.
  12. I don't think it necessarily follows that just because you don't identify yourself in a varna means that you are puffed up and think you are above the varnas. I think it means you hold Bhakti to be the highest ideal, and have given up karma yoga as your means to the end. Those not on the path of bhakti should follow one of the other yogas laid out in Srimad Bhagavad Gita, right? I personally find a lot to admire in the tenacity and single minded focus of mundane materialists, let alone real karma-yogis. If I had the determination some people have for aquiring material gain to put towards my spiritual life I would be much further on with it.
  13. Someone is bound to steal something from you, so why not let Krishna steal your heart? Yeah I'm also a bit more concerned with the advantage I try to take over others personally. I try and think the people stealing stuff on the outside is an illusion, since everything really belongs to Krishna.
  14. My understanding of what Srila Swami Maharaj said is that for the benefit of society at large to grow to become Krishna Conscious, it needs to be broken down into the varnashram sections, but also that the devotees are not part of the varnas but play those roles depending on the service necessities. But just as we shouldn't equate ourselves with our bodies "I am a black man, I am a white man, I am a woman" etc. we shouldn't equate ourselves with a varna like "I am a ksatriya". This is a role we may take on to do the necessary service and display proper behavior to the public at large, but this is not who we are and is another misconception to be avoided in our seach for our eternal identity of servant of the Lord. This is the way I harmonize the words of Srila Swami Maharaj. Please let me know how you think about this.
  15. That evidence is burried somewhere, can you look it up and post where Srila Swami Maharaj is saying the initiated disciples in ISKCON should consider themselves in the various varnas? He says they should take the roles but they are above the varnas, so considering yourself a śūdra or any other devotee doesn't seem in line. Srila Swami Maharaj Anyhow, I'm not disagreeing with you necessarily, it again is implementation that I am wondering about. Another quote you'll appreciate:
  16. . If you keep the society in chaotic condition, any department, intellectual, administration, production, they'll be all topsy turvey, and there cannot be any peace in the world. So this Vedic scheme, varṇāśrama, is a very important scheme. If possible it should be introduced and taken up very seriously. That is one of the items of Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement, to reestablish the institution of varṇa and āśrama. Not by birth, but by qualification. Cātur-varṇyaṁ mayā sṛṣṭaṁ guṇa-karma-vibhāgaśaḥ [bg. 4.13]. Guṇa-karma, by quality. In India, the varṇāśrama is there, but it is not organized because the government does not take care. The government is imitating Western way of life, "There is no need of brāhmaṇa, there is no need of kṣatriya, simply śūdras." Everywhere this is the position, the śūdra population, kalau śūdra sambhavaḥ. In this age everyone is a śūdra. So it doesn't matter, everyone is born śūdra, but he should be trained up. Just like in our practical life we see that everyone is not born a scientist or engineer or lawyer. Everyone is born innocent, child, then he's trained up by the guardians. Similarly, there should be a training how to become brāhmaṇa, how to become kṣatriya, how to become vaiśya. And the government should see that everyone, as he is trained up, he is working according to his quality and occupational duty. Then there will be complete peace and harmony. That human society is perfect. But also: There is no question of a devotee becoming a sudra if he does certain work. No, a devotee is never a sudra. He is transcendental. Because their activity is done in transcendental loving service unto the Lord, it is all on the transcendental plane, brahma bhuyaya kalpate [bg. 14.26]. You should not quit your present job, it is good service to Krsna. Although you may be working hard, you are always working for Krsna; so do not be confused about your position and never forget Krsna in any circumstances. So basically from my perspective, Srila Swami Maharaj wanted to institute daiva varnashram dharma if possible, but it isn't clear to me that he wanted this withing ISKCON or as a greater goal for humanity at large. I don't know about anyone else but I hope to become a devotee, not a sudra, vaisha, ksatriya or brahmin. I'll continue to look into this myself, but thanks Prabhu for starting the discussion. It needs some in-depth study definitely. Forgive me if I don't come to the same conclusions, not that I have solidified any yet.
  17. Thanks for that, one of my favorites from the Tao Te Ching. It reminds me of how Srila Sridhar Maharaj says we should eternally see ourselves as students. Though He was shelter for so many, He said 'I need a guardian.' Not 'I am the Guardian.' Always looking up, never down.
  18. Thank you prabhu, that really helps.
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