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from what I have heard, Tripurari Maharaja consulted with Jagat on siddhanta and Sanskrit terminology in the publishing of some books. Jagat, which books of Tripurari Maharaja did you help him with? Tripurari Maharaja apparently looks up to you for confirmation and support of his preaching concepts. Tripurari Maharaja has become quite open in his older years. A lot of devotees can never really accept you since you rejected your initiation from Srila Prabhupada to accept siddha-pranali from Lalita Prasad. Tripurari Maharaja seems to be able to overlook that and put you to work helping him write books for selling in bookstores.

some books are written for preaching, some books are written for capital gain and financial needs. it's up to the observers to determine which books were published with pure motive and which books were published for money making schemes.

Please show us the statement from Srila Prabhupada where he instructs his disciples to go to Narayana Maharaja to learn Vaishnava sadacar. If you can't post such a quote, then you should retract your statement and stop making false propaganda.

But that "quote" was not a real quote. Sridhara Maharaja never refered to Prabhupada as "Swamiji". that's how Narayana Maharaja refers to him. Sridhar Maharaja referred to him as "Swami Maharaja". To refer to the acharya as "Swamiji" is considered disrespectful by knowers of Vaishnava ettiquete. Swamiji means "my friend (my buddy) the Swami" ISKCON devotees stopped that in the very beginning when they found out it was rude to refer to Srila Prabhupada as "Swamiji" Sridhar Maharaja said: "I am not wholly one with Swami Maharaja". Nobody is wholly one with anybody. Sridhar Maharaja had a right to his own space and his own realizations.

This is very deep. Only a materially infected soul would be envious of Uddhava. Rasa-lila ki-jaya!

Krsna Book He always kept them engaged in thinking of the transcendental message of Krsna and His pastimes, and the gopis were feeling as if they were experiencing direct association with Krsna.

But, it appeared that he had left Vrindavan. The gopis would have died in seperation had not Uddhava come to give them proper guidance how to live in seperation. without Krishna there is no Vrindavan, no Nanda and Yashoda, no Radharani and no gopis. But, he appeared to be absent by the power of yogamaya. Krishna is the supreme spirit. He is everywhere. But, sometimes he is invisible.

There is much I like about Tripurari Swami. I could even say I love Tripurari Swami. I don't agree with everything that Tripurari Swami has done and said. Maharaja and myself have a little history together. I helped him excecute an overthrow of a temple president in Chicago one time. Maharaja once told me I was one of his favorite devotees. I still get a chuckle when I remember that. He was quite the diplomat. I never believed it for a minute. Before he ever established his Audarya Ashram, i referred to him as the "bhagavat audarya avatar" in an essay I wrote and personally handed to him. I wrote that because Srila Prabhupada referred to him as the incarnation of book distribution. I admire Tripurari Maharaja greatly. He is one of my favorite devotees!!!!!! Like a brother, I don't always agree with him on everything.

I understand a little of where you are coming from. I am sure there is a market for the kind of message you preach. In some ways, I think it would be really cool if surrendering to Krishna was as painless and congenial as your vision. But, in the final analysis, I don't think that acheiving prema can be accomplished whilst maintaining the kind of attached process you invision. I think if you examine the teachings of Mahaprabhu that you will find that it is not all sugar and spice. There are sacrifices to be made. Attachments to be given up and there is a bitter pill that must be swallowed to make us better. Medicine does not always come in a palatable and pleasant form. Most of us have no conception of sacrifice. All we know is taking and using of others. The degree of sacrifice we must attain to is very great.

But, Tripurari Maharaja got the attention and appreciation of Srila Prabhupada for distributing books - not for writing them. Srila Prabhupada also said that a person had to be empowered and authorized to write books. There is so much to know about overlapping of tastes and all the subtle nuances of presenting bhakti shastra. I personally don't believe that sadhakas should write literatures on bhakti. I think that should be the right of the siddhas only. I'm sure you would disagree.

I'm just relating my own experience. I doubt that anyone on this forum is completely devoid of some ego. I don't consider myself to be an exception. I was practicing and studying hatha-yoga in 1974. I was teaching yoga to some friends in my home town after I got out of the Navy. One of these friends brought a book to one of our get-togethers. We were doing pranayama and chanting Om etc. then this friend brought out a book some person had walked up to him and sold him at the mall. That book was Nectar of Devotion. The moment I saw the book I could experience nectar. My friend opened it up and showed me the Hare Krishna mantra and told me how to chant it as the devotee at the mall had told him. I was totally taken in by that book. It was just radiating nectar and I could sense it. My friends asked me if I knew anything about Bhakti-yoga. I told them that I did not. But, I told them right there immediatly that with this book I had finally found to the topmost yoga system and that I would spend the rest of my life trying to understand that book. The books have always been nectar to me from the first moment I touched one. To this very day, there is NOTHING that is a nectarine to me as the books of Srila Prabhuapda.

I tasted nectar and smelled the lotus fragrance coming from the books of Srila Prabhupada from the first second I touched one. to this very day I taste that nectar and smell the lotus flower aroma of those books. If a person doesn't have that same experience as I do, then I guess they just have a way to go to get to where they need to be. These books are dripping with nectar. the fragrance can be smelled all the way back to Goloka.

to make this point authoritatively, you need to present the actual quote of Srila Prabhupada instructing his diciples to write books. you know that in devotee circles you can't you throw out ideas without supporting evidence.

I don't have much more to add to the discussion about romance, except that I have a very lovely wife with exceptional qualities and her real name is Angel. She is my Angel of mercy and has a heart of gold. I don't care to talk about romance. I have romance.

Uddhava was the siksha guru of Radharani and the gopis.

I wouldn't expect anything less from one of the clueless zombies of Narayana Maharaja. I would rather be a mayavadi than a follower of Narayana Maharaja.

When you call Uddhava a jnani-yogi I get real pissed-off. That is the most crude nonsense I have ever heard. Uddhava prayed to be a clump of grass in Vrindavana to get the feet dust of the gopis on him because he was too ashamed to touch their lotus feet. You people are INSANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have come to dislike the term "cowboy", because in the western countries cowboys are cow killers. I prefer "dairy boys" or "milkmaids", because in dairy farming the cows are not killed. (I know that eventually they are, but in India they are not supposed to be killed). Cowboys are rope smoking, cattle herding, cattle branding cow killers. We need to find a better word for gopa than "cowboy". I think maybe "dairy boy" is better.

that makes cute poetry, but you can't support that with shastra.

Narayana Maharaja regularly pushes himself off on new devotees that have no faith in him and don't have a clue to what he is saying or if it corresponds to the Gaudiya siddhanta. He is always telling some innocent bystander that they need to take initiation from him, even though they don't know him from Adam. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that there is something seriously wrong with all that. Offenses of the highest level simply turn them into madmen. It's not amazing that there are people around to follow. Rajneesh had plenty of followers. There are many followers of many pseudo-incarnations all over India. finding followers is not that difficult. Finding a pure devotee is VERY VERY rare. Srila Prabhupada ki-jaya! Srila Sridhar Maharaja ki-jaya!

that's all a myth. Professional gurus have been preaching that same trick since time immemorial. It's a hoax. Usually, being in the physical proximity is a deterent to faith. Better take the siksha from the inspired side of the sadhu and if you don't get near his body, then that is quite alright. The magic is in chanting Hare Krishna. These guys fall asleep in front of the guru during lectures. There is no magic in the physical proximity of the guru.

After looking at some of the above posts as well as other writings of Sripad Narayana Maharaja, it is quite apparent that he has now ascended to the level of giving his own commentaries on the Gaudiya canon. He has proclaimed himself as a neophyte that is just approaching the madhyama stage. There are a lot of devotees around the world that would not have any disagreement with that. The questions is; why is a madhyama-adhikari, who is a self-proclaimed sadhaka seeking self-realization, now giving different commentary on the most elevated Gaudiya shastra? I guess Visvanatha Cakravarti, Jiva Goswami and the other great Vaishnava Goswamis forgot to mention something? Narayana Maharaja makes many statements without referring to the words of the genuine Gaudiya acharyas. Many devotees will NEVER accept his madhyama-adhikari (at best) commentaries that are tainted with the siddha-pranali sanga that he was infected with when he blooped from the Gaudiya Math to suck-up to the siddha-pranali types at Radha-kunda. Narayana Maharaja is trying to create a convergence of Gaudiya Math with the siddha-pranali influence that he had to be DRAGGED away from. It might work for a while, but someday most of the devotees are going to look back at this stuff as just so much fantasy - like a day at Disneyland. Sadhakas like Narayana Maharaja don't need to be making commentary on shastra. Most of the devotees he initiates don't have a clue about what he is saying or if it corresponds to what the authentic acharyas have given.

Can't you guys come up with some regular nik to go by instead of posting as "guest" over and over. We would like to know which post goes with which guest on a regular basis. You can keep you true identity secret, but can't you at least think of a nik you could use regularly?