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Eulogy of Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura by Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakura (The Harmonist, Dec. 1931, vol. XXIX No. 6)

Tridandisvami Sri Srimad Bhaktivedanta Narayana Maharaja: Los Angeles - May 11, 2003

Why not a self-effulgent guru, why does a living guru have to be elected or appointed? Or are you being facetious?

Srila Narayana Maharaja: August 13, 2001

Srila Narayana Maharaja: Los Angeles, May 13, 2001

Srila Bhaktivedanta Narayana Maharaja:

<table align="center" border="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="grey">by Syamarani dasi</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="grey"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="grey">The painting you are viewing is entitled "Seva Kunj." “This picture began in my heart, and it now has manifested outwardly.” – Srila Bhaktivedanta Narayana Maharaja A description of the divine philosophy behind this masterpiece has been given by His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada in his commentary on Sri Chaitanya Caritamrta: In Goloka Vrndavana there is an exchange of love known as parakiya-rasa. It is something like the attraction of a married woman for a man other than her husband. In the material world this sort of relationship is most abominable because it is a perverted reflection of the parakiya-rasa in the spiritual world, where it is the highest kind of loving affair. Such feelings between the devotee and the Lord are presented by the influence of yogamaya. The Bhagavad-gita states that devotees of the highest grade are under the care of daiva-maya, or yogamaya. Those who are actually great souls (mahrtmas) are fully absorbed in Krsna consciousness, always engaged in the service of the Lord. They are under the care of daivi-prakrti, or yogamaya. Yogamaya creates a situation in which the devotee is prepared to transgress all regulative principles simply to love Krsna. A devotee naturally does not like to transgress the laws of reverence for the Supreme Personality of Godhead, but by the influence of yogamaya he is prepared to do anything to love the Supreme Lord better. (Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, Adi-lila chapter 4: purport by Srila Bhaktivedanta Svami Prabhupada) Click here to view more transcendental art. </td></tr></tbody></table>

I am just wondering why everyone went a little crazy after this painting was posted? I guess it is just a rhetorical question.

JAIVA-DHARMA, FROM: CHAPTER FIVE<o:p></o:p> “VAIDHI-BHAKTI IS NITYA NOT NAIMITTIKA” SRILA BHAKTIVINODA THAKURA Lahiri:...My son, the service that all of you render at home to the Deity of Bhagavan is not paramarthika because you do not accept the eternality of Bhagavan’s form. That is why you cannot be among the isanugatas. Now I hope that you have understood the difference between nitya and naimittika upasana (worship).<o:p></o:p> Devidasa: Yes. If one worships the sri-vigraha (Deity) of Bhagavan, but does not accept that vigraha as eternal, then it is not worship of an eternal object. However, can’t one adopt a temporary means of worship to attain the eternal truth, which is ultimately distinct from any such temporary forms?<o:p></o:p> Lahiri: Even if that were the case, such temporary worship cannot be called eternal dharma. The worship of the eternal vigraha as performed in vaisnava-dharma is nitya-dharma.<o:p></o:p> Devidasa: But sri-vigraha that is worshiped is fashioned by a human being, so how can it be eternal?<o:p></o:p> Lahiri: The vigraha worshiped by the Vaisnavas is not like that. Bhagavan is not formless like brahma. On the contrary, He is the all-powerful, concentrated embodiment of eternity, knowledge, and bliss. It is that sac-cid-ananda-ghana-vigraha that is the worshipable Deity of the Vaisnavas. Bhagavan’s transcendental form of eternity, bliss, and knowledge is first revealed in the pure consciousness of the jiva, and then it is reflected in the mind. The external form of the Deity is fashioned according to this transcendental form revealed in the mind, and by the power of bhakti-yoga, the sac-cid-ananda form of Bhagavan then manifests in the Deity. When the devotee takes darsana of the Deity, that Deity unites with the transcendental form of Bhagavan that the devotee sees in his heart.<o:p></o:p> The Deity that the jnanis worship, however, is not like that. They think that the Deity is a statue made of material elements, but that the state of brahma is present in it while they are conducting their worship, and that it becomes a mere material statue again after they have finished their worship. Now you should consider the difference between these two conceptions of the Deity and their respective methods of worship. When you obtain Vaisnava diksa by the mercy of a genuine guru, you will be able to correctly understand this difference by observing the results of both.<o:p></o:p> Devidasa: Yes, now this all makes more sense to me. Now I see that the Vaisnavas are not just fanatics driven by blind faith; rather, they are endowed with subtle and discriminating insight. There is a major difference between the worship of the sri-murti and the temporary worship of an imaginary form of the Lord that has been imposed on a material object. There is no difference in the external procedures of worship, but there is a vast difference in the faith of the two worshipers. I will think about this for some days. Father, today my greatest doubt has been dispelled. Now I can say emphatically that the jnanis’ worship is merely an attempt to cheat Sri Bhagavan. I will submit this topic at your feet again at a later time.<o:p></o:p> After saying this, Devi Vidyaratna and Sambhu departed for their residential quarters. They returned to Lahiri Mahasaya’s kutira in the late afternoon, but there was no opportunity to discuss these topics further, for at that time everyone was immersed in hari-nama-sankirtana.<o:p></o:p>

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This Wikipedia article was written by Srila Puri Maharaja's followers, that's how Wikipedia works: Bhakti Vaibhava Puri Maharaj From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search <!-- start content --> Srila Bhakti Vaibhava Puri Maharaj at Tompkins Square Park August 24, 2001 Srila Bhakti Vaibhava Puri Goswami Maharaj is the founder-acharya of the Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mission, one of the most notable preachers of Gaudiya Vaishnavism in the 20th century, and a regional leader (based in the Indian State of Orissa) of Mahatma Gandhi's freedom fighting movement. Srila Puri Maharaj was born in the village of Fulta, adjacent to the city of Berhampur in the state of Orissa, India on the 27th of January of 1913. His given name at birth was Nrusimgha. The name of his father is Sri Damodar and the name of his mother is Srimati Devi. He attended Khallikote Autonomous College in the city of Berhampur, where he received a B.A. degree. In the 1930s, Srila Puri Maharaj completed his studies in Ayurveda, and also became active in the independence movement led by Mahatma Gandhi. According to his biography, he was a regional president of the independence movement during that time. Srila Puri Maharaj's Ayurvedic Instructor, Kaviraja Sripad Madhusudan Sharma, was also an initiated disciple of Gaudiya Vaishnava Acharya Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura. Through the intervention of his Ayurvedic Instructor, Srila Puri Maharaj was brought to see Bhaktisiddhanta, and on August 3rd, 1936, took initiation from him in the Gaudiya Vaishnava tradition. Thus began a long lifetime of spiritual service in the monastic tradition of Gaudiya Vaishnavism. In 1966, after almost three decades as an initiated Gaudiya Vaishnava, he accepted the sacred renounced order of Sanyasa from Srila Bhakti Swarupa Giri Maharaj. In June of 1966, Srila Puri Maharaj formed the Sri Krishna Chaitanya Ashram in Andhra Pradesh. At the present day, Maharaj's organization the Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mission has approximately 20 ashrams. The mission has also published several books in multiple languages (English, Oriya, etc.) including "The Divine Name" by Raghava Chaitanya Das, "Sri Sri Chaitanya Bhagavata" by Vrindavan Das Thakur, "Srimad Bhagavad Gita", 11th canto of "Srimad Bhagavatam", A Brief Life History of Sri Srimad Bhakti Vaibhava Puri Goswami Maharaj, Lord Sri Jagannath, Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, etc. Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura had many disciples, the most notable of whom being Srila A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, the world's foremost preacher of Gaudiya Vaishnavism outside of India (sometimes called the "Hare Krishna" movement by some). Srila Prabhupada's relationship with Srila Bhakti Vaibhava Puri Maharaj is best epitomized in this letter written by Prabhupada on December 2, 1970; "My Dear Puri Maharaj, Perhaps you are my only Godbrother who has appreciated my humble service to the cause of Guru Gauranga. All my other Godbrothers are very much envious, as I can understand from their behavior." In 1971, Srila Puri Maharaj invited Srila Prabhupada to inaugurate a new temple at Rajahmundry on the banks of the Godavari river. In the late 1990s, following the footsteps and tradition of Srila AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, Srila Puri Maharaj began his tours of communicating Gaudiya Vaishnava Theology to the Western World. 1997 marked the beginning of annual European tours which continue to the time of this article's creation. 2001 marked his first tour around the world, at the advanced age of 89. In that year, Maharaj traveled to the European Union, the United States of America, Mexico, Australia, and Thailand. Bhakti Vaibhava Puri Maharaj at World Trade Center August 25, 2001 One of the most memorable events of the 2001 World Tour occurred on Saturday August 25, 2001. On that day, Srila Puri Maharaj and over a dozen devotees visited the top floor of World Trade Center Tower 2, and conducted a short nagar-sankirtana event. His most recent tour of the European Union in 2005 at the advanced age of 92 recognizes Srila Puri Maharaj as the eldest known travelling Gaudiya Vaishnav Acharya, having followers all over India, as well as Europe, Thailand, North America, and Australia.

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Srila Narayana Maharaja:

"I am in due receipt of your letter dated September 3 1975, with the enclosed statement about Bon Maharaja. So I have now issued orders that all my disciples should avoid all of my Godbrothers. They should not have any dealings with them nor even correspondence, nor should they give them any of my books or should they purchase any of their books, neither should you visit any of their temples. Please avoid them." (SPL to Visvakarma das, 9 Nov 1975) Sripad Bhagavat Prabhu (ACBSP): ...Srila Prabhupada instructed myself and Srila Gour Govinda Maharaja to preach with his god brother Srila Bhaktivaibhava Puri Maharaja and I pointed out that in 1977 Srila Prabhupada established the Bhaktivedanta Swami Charity trust in his final days and that Srila Prabhupada named two of his Godbrothers as trustees, Srila Madhusudhana Maharaja and Srila Madhava Maharaja. Now this trust consists of his disciples and his god brothers. So are his disciples supposed to not co-operate with the god brothers on the trust with them based on this letter or does the fact that he made the trust obviously reverse his statement in this letter? After the document is finished Srila Prabhupada reads the list of names to the devotees along with the plans for refurbishing some of the Gaudiya Matha buildings. Does this sound like Srila Prabhupada wants us to not co-operate with his God brothers? He is spending the money from his society to rebuild Gaudiya Matha buildings! Is this in keeping with the mood of that letter from 1975. After he reads the list of names the following conversation occurs: Prabhupada: How do you think the idea? Jayapataka: All of your ideas, Srila Prabhupada, are perfect. I am not someone to offer opinion. But if you ask, I think that actually, especially the yoga-pitha, natha-mandira, that's a very dynamic idea, and in general it must do good. Prabhupada: We want cooperation. Tamala Krsna: No more non-cooperation Sripad Bhagavat Prabhu (ACBSP): ...Srila Prabhupada says here in this conversation WE WANT CO-OPERATION! He wants Co-operation between whom? He wants co-operation between His godbrothers and his disciples that’s who! That is a direct instruction that counters the letter of 1975. Not only is he saying it but he is demonstrating it by his actions in making his disciples work together on a trust with His god brothers. This decision affects the whole society because he is using the society’s money that is being collected by His disciples from all over the world to pay for the refurbishing of the Gaudiya Matha buildings of His god brothers. Thus by implication he has all of His disciples co-operating with His god brothers. Srila Prabhupada is talking to Jayapataka, Tamal, and Bhavananda was also there, and later he gave a similar order to myself and Srila Gour Govinda Maharaja. Is Srila Prabhupada instructing that only we should co-operate with his god brothers and no other disciple should because of a letter 2 years earlier? Srila Prabhupada gave instructions to Srila Narayana Maharaja that ISKCON and the Gaudiya Matha should preach together I have given you the relevant quotes from the tape recording. He also instructs Srila Narayana Maharaja to instruct us about this co-operation. Is this not enough evidence for you? Your Spiritual Masters own voice saying “NOW WE SHOULD PREACH TOGETHER” AND “KINDLY INSTRUCT THEM ON THIS MATTER”.

Srila Narayana Maharaja (talking about a conversation with Prabhupada a day or two before he entered nitya lila) Of course Srila Prabhupada wanted all qualified persons both godbrothers and their disciples, who were actually well wishers to help his "monkeys". The disciples of Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakur had decided together, after their gurudeva entered nitya lila that none of them should use the "Prabhupada name". When Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami allowed his disciples to call him Prabhupada at first their was some friction over this. But later most maths accepted it for it was clear that he was the world preacher. But generally most maths refer to him as Swamiji or Swami Maharaja feeling that they cannot use the "Prabhupada name" but Srila A.C Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada's disciples and grand disciples can do this. <!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]--> <!--[endif]-->

Srila Narayana Maharaja

Sri Srimad Bhaktivedanta Narayana Maharaja My Siksa Guru and Priya Bandhu<o:p></o:p> SRILA PRABHUPÄDA’S DISAPPEARANCE LILÄ Visiting Him in His Last Days<o:p></o:p> Srila Swämi Mahäräja was becoming very ill, and our<o:p></o:p> Sukhänanda Prabhu was offering him naturopathic massages<o:p></o:p> with Ganges water. Before he went abroad to England,<o:p></o:p> Sukhänanda Prabhu came to Våndävana for two hours every<o:p></o:p> morning and evening for fourteen days to massage him, and<o:p></o:p> these massages helped him. We also sometimes visited and spoke<o:p></o:p> with him then. Once we came at a time when he had hardly eaten<o:p></o:p> or even taken water for many days. Still, he affectionately greeted<o:p></o:p> us and, as he had always done with all, he lovingly offered us the<o:p></o:p> opulent mahä-prasädam that had been prepared and offered by<o:p></o:p> his disciples. He exclaimed how nicely his young students were<o:p></o:p> trying to serve their gurudeva and Krsna. Even though he himself<o:p></o:p> had eaten nothing at all for so long, he made sure, in such a<o:p></o:p> careful and affectionate way, that each of us took prasäda to our<o:p></o:p> full satisfaction.<o:p></o:p> Some godbrothers and associates were paying visits to him in<o:p></o:p> his room around this time. Akiïcana Krsnadäsa Bäbäji Mahäräja,<o:p></o:p> Srila Bon Mahäräja, Srila Bhakti Pramoda Puri Mahäräja, Srila<o:p></o:p> Bhakti Vaibhava Puri Mahäräja, Indupati Prabhu (from Srila<o:p></o:p> Mädhava Mahäräja’s temple), Änanda Prabhu, and many more<o:p></o:p> devotees came to see him. We also came several times to be<o:p></o:p> with him, along with our brahmacärs like Sesasäyi Prabhu,<o:p></o:p> subhänanda Prabhu, Premänanda Prabhu, and sometimes others.<o:p></o:p> There are tape recordings of some of these conversations, but<o:p></o:p> most of them were in Bengali or Hindi.<o:p></o:p> Just before Kärtika month in early October, when our annual<o:p></o:p> Vraja Mandala parikramä was about to begin, Parama-püjyapäda<o:p></o:p> Srila Swämi Mahäräja sent for me. He requested his senior<o:p></o:p> sannyäsés and many others, “I want to meet with Näräyana<o:p></o:p> Mahäräja.” A few of them then came by car and requested me,<o:p></o:p> “Srla Prabhupäda wants you, so please come now.” I was in the<o:p></o:p> midst of giving evening discourse to our parikrama party, but I<o:p></o:p> came immediately. When I arrived in his room at Krsna-Balarama Mandira, he was quite silent. Some boys were singing the Hare Krsna mahämantra, and some sannyäsis and other disciples were silent. After some time he opened his eyes and indicated with his eyes for me to come close. He was so enthusiastic before his death – not his death, no – his entering krsna-lilä. He was not speaking, but when he saw me he showed his happiness. The devotees were chanting Hare Krsna very softly in Srila Swämi Mahäräja’s special tune, and all could see that he was not speaking now. I offered pranäma to him, säntyä pranäma (standing and silent), because I saw that there were many persons present and no space for me to offer full pranäma. When he saw me he at once said, “Oh, Näräyana Mahäräja has come.” He wanted me to take a seat on his bed. He tried to sit up, but I put my hands on motioned for me to come nearer to his bed and said, “I want to speak to you.” He wanted me to sit closer to his ear, so he told some disciples, “Bring a chair,” and I sat on it near to his ear. First he began to weep; his heart was melted. From the core of his heart he told me, “Näräyana Mahäräja, can you excuse me? I feel that there is cause for you to forgive me. For the sake of preaching I have told my disciples some things, which perhaps I should not have said. Also I spoke very strongly about my godbrothers in one letter, which was then sent to everyone. I said that we are preaching and others are not, that they are kanistha adhikäris who don’t preach but are idle. I said that none of the Gaudiya Vaisnavas helped me – that they only take mahäprasädam and sleep.” At this time, many of his sannyäsi disciples were watching. His words and mood implied to me many things about how he had wanted to encourage his young students. As we are careful with babies, so he had sometimes instructed some of them not to mix with his godbrothers and the other Gaudiya Vaiñëavas. To save his newcomers from becoming disturbed or confused, he sometimes told them not to visit anywhere else. One reason was that a few of his godbrothers had done some wrong things. Also, his disciples did not understand the Indian ways of indirect, subtle meanings. Also, he did not want them to lose heart due to criticism from any Indian Vaisnavas who may not have understood their sensitivities and his style of training them. Srilla Swämi Mahäräja had been a member of the Gaudiya Matha for a very long time and he knew the regulations and siddhänta – but he could not teach all his disciples everything in just a few years. He had been cultivating many Vaisnava Westerners from different countries, but they still lacked our Vedic culture and sadäcära (devotional habits). He had given his young disciples instructions to avoid other Vaisnavas, just to protect them from becoming discouraged. He would say, “Although they are not fully trained, their devotional attitude is so nice. I am praying to Guru Mahäräja and the rüpänuga-guruvarga to bless them all. Sri Caitanya Mahäprabhu, Sri Nityänanda Prabhu, and Sri Baladeva Prabhu will surely give them their mercy.” Srila Swämi Mahäräja was remembering all these things, and he now requested me, “Kindly tell the other Vaisnavas that I have made this offense, and to please excuse me. I have so much sorrow for this.” I told him, “You are my siksä-guru and a pure Vaisnava. I know that you cannot do anything that is not in the line of bhakti. You have done these things only for the purpose of serving your gurudeva and Caitanya Mahäprabhu, and we also do this. All of us are indebted to you; there is no question. We know the prediction: “prthiviti äche yata nagarädi gräma.” You have performed a miracle; you have spread His glories everywhere. We don’t think that you have done anything wrong, so I have nothing for which to excuse you. But I will relay your request to the senior Vaisnavas. You are my sikhä-guru; whatever instructions you give me I will follow with absolute sincerity.” Tears were very sweetly falling from his eyes. He was acting in such a humble way, as if he was not a good Vaisnava; but actually he was like Srila Narottama däsa Thäkura and Srila Bhaktivinoda Thäkura. He continued, “Sri Srimad Bhaktisiddhänta Sarasvati Thäkura Prabhupäda ordered all of us to preach in Europe and America. That was his strong desire. His other desire was that we all work together to preach. I didn’t waste a single moment. I tried my best, and to some extent it has been successful.” His voice was choked with emotion as he continued to speak: “If we can work conjointly, then, as Sr Caitanya Mahäprabhu declared, this sankirtana movement has great possibilities.” Then he told me, “I want you to help take care of my disciples. I want them to be good and qualified devotees. If they come to you, please care for them.” Many of his disciples were nearby, so he softly whispered in Bengali, “When I went to the West, I caught so many monkeys in my net. Really, they are very expert in quarreling among themselves like that. They are still very young and untrained. So I request you that after my departure you will help them in every respect.” Considering the implications of this order from my siksä-guru, I hesitated. Then he grasped both of my hands in his own, looked deeply into my eyes and asked me to promise to help. Therefore I agreed, saying, “I promise that according to my ability and my bhaktisiddhänta- tattva (understanding of the conclusive statements of bhakti), I will always be ready to help them as you request.” Then I told him, “I want to say something to them.” Srila Swämi Mahäräja at once became inspired and called to them, “Oh, you should all come near and hear Näräyana Mahäräja. Please take into your hearts what he is speaking.” Then I told them all, “Don’t think that Srila Swämé Mahäräja is leaving this world. Gurudeva is eternal. You are fortunate to have such a bona fide guru and Vaisnava. You should try to preach his mission more and more enthusiastically. If you are after material things, you will find yourselves quarreling over name, fame and worldly gain. You will not be following his teachings. You will not be following his mission; you’ll be doing wrong. So don’t pursue your own self-interest. Give up all these things. To serve Srila Swämi Mahäräja, and to preach his mission, you should be united with all the devotees. Don’t quarrel with others over a small point. Don’t expel anyone from this mission by finding small faults. Try to behave like friends, with brotherhood, and then you can preach. If you have difficulty with any of these things, then, as Srila Swämi Mahäräja has requested me, you can come to me and I will try to help you from the core of my heart.” They all listened to me then, and this was recorded on a cassette tape. Srila Swämi Mahäräja turned his head slowly, looking over the devotees as they gathered in closely. Then he slowly lifted his hand, as if to call them to attention, and said, “Listen to Näräyana Mahäräja. Don’t fight amongst yourselves. I have given all direction in my books.” Then he lowered his hand. After this Srila Swämi Mahäräja told me, “I pray to you that you will put me into my samädhi with your own hand. I don’t want to take samädhi from anyone else’s hands. I think you are the proper person. After my samädhi, arrange to celebrate my mahotsava separation festival. You should give some amount of money to all the seven temples in Vrndävana and to all the Gaudiya Mathas. It depends upon you how much – 201 rupees, 1001 rupees – according to your discretion, whatever you recommend. They should all hear these instructions and arrange to pay. Arrange a mahotsava festival also in Mathurä and invite all the senior Vaisnavas to the feast. Invite all the Vaisnavas in Vrndävana. Do this for me, and again I am telling you that you should always help my devotees.” <!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]--> <!--[endif]--> <!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]--> <!--[endif]--> <!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]--> <!--[endif]--> <!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]--> <!--[endif]--> <!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]--> <!--[endif]-->

Sri Srimad Bhaktivedanta Narayana Maharaja My Siksa Guru and Priya Bandhu Our First Meeting The rest is at: http://www.bvml.org/SBNM/books/siksa-guru-priya-bandhu.pdf

Sri Srimad Bhaktivedanta Narayana Maharaja My Siksa Guru and Priya Bandhu

Srila Prabhupada April 12, 1975 Hyderbad: Srila Narayana Maharaja Feb. 25, 2002 Paxton, Australia: <table border="0" height="853" width="800"><tbody><tr><td height="645" width="24"> </td><td height="645" width="606"> [srila Narayana Maharaja:] Rati is that sthayi-bhava (permanent sentiment of a particular permanent relationship with Krsna). When rati does not appear in a special way, there it is only love. krsna-bhakti-rasa-bhavita matih kriyatam yadi kuto 'pi labhyate tatra laulyam api mulyam ekalam janma-koti-sukrtair na labhyate "Pure devotional service in Krsna consciousness cannot be had even by pious activity in hundreds and thousands of lives. It can be attained only by paying one price - that is, intense greed to obtain it. If it is available somewhere, one must purchase it without delay." (Cc. Madhya 8.70) This sloka applies to a general meaning of prema. There is no specific rati there. And when, by the association of a bhakta-bhagavat and according to your constitutional rati which is now in latent position, both mix, rati will gradually develop, and a sentiment will peep from inside, saying, "I like this particular relationship with Krsna." Guru will see this and reveal to you your specific rati. Thus you continue to advance and your siddha-deha (pure spiritual body) will manifest. And, on the platform of siddha-deha, vibhava, anubhava, sattvik, and vyabicari will all manifest - and then it will be bhakti-rasa. You should gradually know all these principles. </td></tr></tbody></table>

Badger, California: June 15, 2006 Tridandisvami Sri Srimad Bhaktivedanta Narayana Maharaja [srila Narayana Maharaja:] You should not doubt me, or think that I should call him "Prabhupada." I cannot call him "Prabhupada." Our Gurudeva (Srila Bhakti Prajnana Kesava Gosvami Maharaja) and other disciples were also "Prabhupada" by qualification. They never took this title, however, because they wanted to reserve it for their Gurudeva, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura. ...It is not a fault of the disciples to call their spiritual master "Prabhupada." Disciples have full right to do so. In the case of Srila Bhaktivedanta Svami Maharaja allowing himself to be called "Prabhupada," this is his prerogative, and by this he wanted the whole world to know the glories of Srila Prabhupada Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura. Obviously he did not want to offend his god brothers, yet some were offended. Still, by his most glorious services to his Srila Prabhupada, the whole world knows his Prabhupada's glory. ...I have glorified my siksa-guru, much more so than if I would simply call him "Prabhupada." Simply calling, "Prabhupada! Prabhupada!" is not glorifying the spiritual master. Actually, a disciple who knows the heart of the spiritual master can really glorify him, even if he does not use the title "Prabhupada." I have so much regard for him – as much as I have for my diksa-guru. If I am not calling him "Prabhupada," there is no harm in that. June 27, 2006 Hong Kong [The devotees asked more questions a few days later, in Hong Kong:] [Question:] You always say that our Prabhupada is omniscient – he is sarva-jna and tri-kala-jna. [srila Narayana Maharaja:] But for the Guru's human-like pastimes he may appear to forget something; he acts as if he doesn't know. A realized Guru may overlook what is happening and what will happen. An example of this is Srila Sukadeva Gosvami. He had nothing to do with all the happenings of this world. Guru may sometimes control the situation, and sometimes he does not control. [Question:] You said that our Srila Prabhupada can never make a mistake, and we also believe that. Sometimes a few of his god-brothers and their followers criticized him because he allowed the word "Prabhupada" to be used for him. [srila Narayana Maharaja:] He was independent to do anything. He was not under anyone's control, and that was not an offense. All disciples can call their Gurudeva "Prabhupada," no harm. This has been written in the Srimad-Bhagavatam, in the explanation of Srila Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura, that Srila Jiva Gosvami is called "Prabhupada" and Srila Santana Gosvami is also called "Prabhupada." This has been written, so it is all right. My disciples may also call me "Prabhupada," and there is no harm in that. But I have chosen to tell my disciples not to do this, because our Gurudeva has told us not to. [Question:] That is a clear answer – that Guru is independent and in touch with Krsna. [srila Narayana Maharaja:] Yes. I am also independent. I may tell my disciples to call me "Prabhupada," because it is stated in sastra, but I cannot do so, because of what I have been told by my Gurudeva.

Two quotes from Srila Bhaktivedanta Narayana Maharaja:

Advaita -Maha Visnu and Sada Siva (combined and sometimes in is said that they are more or less the same) Gadadhara - Srimati Radharani Srivasa - Narada Muni

Vipramukhya BY: VAMSI VADANA DAS Feb 22, IRELAND (SUN) — What surprises me about Vipramukya’s new life as a gate-keeper for the State of Texas is, was he unable to become a happy householder in ISKCON because of the big reputation he had built up as a man of saffron? The humility involved in admitting that actually my desire for other things had become artificially subjugated and was being expressed in the name of “serving the Godhead” was found wanting in his character. For Vipramukya, the choice of becoming a practicing grihasta and all that that involves was not an option as his previous fame would cloud all his future seva. Of course it shouldn’t be so, and the vast knowledge that the Vipra had should have shown the proper path was to be an honest householder. And all the humble-pie eating that there would be. Instead he has to try very hard to forget everything he has learned. I am sure if a TSKP van showed up at his door they would be well looked after. As for his disciple’s and there must have been a few, they have been able to continue in ISKCON-seva as these days no pressure is on for re-initiation. It is an established fact nowadays in ISKCON that if your guru goes away, you can be accepted to use the name that the fallen guru gave you and go on to preach the glories of Sri Guru even though there is no one in ISKCON that can be found who is worthy of their trust and faith to be taken as their new guru. A case of once bitten, twice shy. Someone of Vipramukya's standing should still be engaged as he has a lot to do to make up for whatever he did wrong. At least he didn't stash million's away for his rainy day.

Srila Narayana Maharaja: <o:p></o:p> Consequently the above statement by Sarva Gattah is quite absurd.