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  1. His thoughts and action inspired me. Ahimsa is what the world needs now. Compassion and respect for all was his wisdom to peace. He was spritual in thought and action which qualities are rare thiese days in our life. So, in short Gandhi Ji is my mentor and Guru. Albert Einstein said of Gandhi: "Generations to come will scarcely believe that such a one as this ever walked upon this earth in flesh and blood". Although he is not with us now but the world remembers him well for his noble action. Most of all it is the west that remembers Gandhi now as Hollywod directors have used Gandhi's phrase and mentions his name often. It shows how Gandhi has influnced the world.
  2. This so called ORTHODOX CHRISTIANS are now calling the Jews "Adamites" and condemning them saying that the God of Abraham was "SATAN". Read for yourself to know what these so called orthoidox christians say about the Jewish faith. Chapter II - Presentation of the Rebellious Master With a pretense to be such mighty and famous as the One and True God, Creator of the Entire Universe, the rebellious master is calling himself the "Self-subsistent", that is the "He-Who-Is", or "I Am Who Am" (Ex. 3:14), that is the "Yhwh" or "Yahweh" or "Jehovah" (Chap.XXVI). Sometime he transfers himself into an animal, like in the "Eden" into a reptile, the Serpent (Chap.IV). Later on, when he acts outside the Eden, where were at hand other animals than reptiles, he transforms himself into mammals (XXXIX), or into witches (XLVII and XLVIII), always naming himself deceitfully, hence causing that some people unwisely, unconsciously or premeditatedly, like Adamites, are calling him God; Lord; Lord God; Lord God Most High etc. etc.. Therefore, for proper understanding of the Bible we must acquire an ability of distinction between the True God, and the false god, and see the True One as One Unit - The Holy Trinity, which equals with The One God Almighty, with His Spirit, and with His Son (Gen.1:1-2; 1:26; 6:2, and Mat.28:18) in opposition to Yahveh and his fake servants, including angels, cherubs and so forth. Chapter III - Wisdom, not designed for the Yahve's people Because of imperfection of the human-like creatures, the clay-ribo-Adamites, they cannot efficiently challenge the human beings. For removal of their weakness, the Yahve put on them a rigorous demand: they must be deadly obedient to him. This demand will obviously make interference into Satan's affairs from the outside world impossible, and make only him responsible for the deeds of his people. Knowing this is very important, for generally the clay-people are not fully responsible for what they do. Although such a blind obedience for certain purposes is necessary, unfortunately, it is also the main obstacle in rapid realization of the Devil's plans. Therefore, from the start, he is still far behind the True God's plan until he will not repeal the human beings and completely resemble them with people of his brand. Consequently with the rigorous demand of blind obedience, on the SIXTH DAY OF CREATION, in the Garden of Eden the Devil produced a special "Tree of Knowledge", "Tree of Good and of Evil" and forbade Adamites to eat fruits from it. Thus he subshadowed his low creativeness by the myth of "Knowledge", for the tree simulate a powerful god who keeps many things secret before his people so they could not decipher them. But in order to prepare Adamites for future battles with the human beings, he made them more cunning as he is himself. So he gave his clay- men the following lessons: First session about ENVIOUSNESS AND FEAR: Teaching clay-men was not a heavy task for during their stay in the Garden, they have a chance to observe what is going on without. Although the outside world was beyond their comprehension and makes them curious, they paid the very obedience to their master and did what he said and stayed away from that world. During last lesson the Yahve transformed himself into a serpent and tempted the rib-woman to take fruits from the tree of knowledge. Thus he teach her how to be envious and be intimidated for the Yahve is master of revenge and not tolerates disobedience. Then he decided to end the maturation filled with lessons and under excuse of banishment he ordered them to go to the world of humans. When they arrived there, they learn the human's customs, start to till the ground, to manage flocks and produce goods. Second session about KILLING OF ANIMALS: Also offsprings of Adam and Eve have got a lesson. The Yahve did teach them how to overcome indisposition of humans to kill a living creature. (Gen.4:5-7) Thus, with an excuse of doing a pleasure to Yahve, the Abel killed an animal. Now after acquiring skillness in killing, Yahve ordered Cain to kill his brother Abel purportedly at the whim of his parents envy. And the Cain get an assurance of immunity against eventual punishment from the hands of humans. And Yahve sealed that assurance by putting a mark on the Cain's face by coloring it white. Making it white it did enable Cain to marry a daughter of a human being, hence to get a white and mix-colored offsprings. Ever since then mongrels became acceptable among Almighty's people for they were looking and acting like the Almighty's ones. Thus the Cainites have got an opportunity to learn and share a culture of humans. Third session about KILLING OF MEN: Because the Yahve has realized, that mixed blood offsprings of Cain inherited humans' skillness in producing goods, building cities, becoming musicians and artistes too, but have a discrepancy of not killing animals or humans, therefore he has had arranged the murder of two humans. So the Lamech, grandson of Cain killed them. And when it had been done, the Yahve pretending to be a god, warned the Almighty's people that if anyone will punish the culprit, will be avenged by the Yahve himself. As we see, the clay-men were, as they still are under special protection of their master. (XL) Because the people of Almighty did recognize murderous abilities of the Yahve, he has a good reason to destroy them completely. Another excuse for destroying them was their purported "wickedness" for they have had relations with either the "sons of heaven" or with the offsprings of Adamites from whom were born relatively wise and noble people (Gen.6:1-5). Such a well managed social order in the Almighty's world could not be for the Yahve's plans acceptable. Thus the Devil decided to make a flood and to spare only one, most obedient to him, the Noah, the Adamite. Chapter IV - BREEDING PRINCIPLE OF THE DEVIL FOR THE TIME TO COME (1) Long before the flood did occur, there were also grown up a pure lineage of the clay-men. They cultivated purity of Adamic blood and sanctified it. They were the descendants of Seth, the third son of the Adam and the Eve. In compliance with the Devil's command, they kept interfamily sexual relations and thus preserved purity. But it was not what the Devil needed. He changed that policy and guided the three sons of Noah to marry the giant women, the "Nephilimisses" in order to inject into the blood of Adamites new genes and to obtain a new mixed race with features of wise and renown humans of the old time past, so their offsprings could not be easy distinguished from among the others, not from the being chosen lineages. The Yahve's experience with the mixed lineage of Cain (see the Table "SEVENTH DAY AFTER ALMIGHTY'S CREATION"), has teaching him something (Gen. 4:17-24). So he choose the Shem as the pure lineage keeper under his, the Devil's watchful eyes. Mixing of humans' blood with of that of clay-people, was also dictated by the Devil's uncertainty about Almighty's reaction to his would be made deluge, the "Great Flood". Also his a supposition that the Holy Trinity might create after the flood another kind of human beings incited him to do such an interbreeding combination. In that supposition the Devil was right, for on the other side of the globe, circa 3000 B.C. another civilizations did emerge and thrive until in 600 B.C. the Israelites arrived and wrought a havoc there, lasting over 1400 years. The BOOK OF MORMON attests to those calamities, especially the Book of Moroni, Chapter 9:8-10 telling about exercised cannibalism among them. (2) Introduction of inferior genes of Adamites into nephilimistic women impaired development of their offsprings' brains so the post-deluvian people lost their capability of properly thinking about 60 per cent. Such an introduction in one way was necessary if Yahve's people were to be obedient to him, but in a long run it was counterproductive. So he made further improvement and invented equalization between humans and rivaling Adamites, thus mustering in them a competition in believing that their obedience will lead to an EIGHT DAY AFTER CREATION under Yahve's rule. He undoubtedly was also hoping, that if his "revolutionary forces" would like to acquire absolute power, then in time he will destroy them, for nobody besides him has a right to establish dictatorship and slavery. How the Yahve had masterminded Adamites brains did explain J. Jaynes in his work "The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind", Boston, 1976. Chapter V - First Covenant of the Yahve - slavery In order to be sure that the Adamic-Seth lineage by descendants of Shem will be kept in crystal purity, the Yahve made a covenant with them. He promised "never again to doom the Earth because of man (Adamite), since the desires of man's heart are evil from the start" (Gen 8:21). Good behavior of Noah has had convinced him that his clay-people will be an efficient tool to drive the world population into respect and dependence on him. And due to such an outstanding covenant those clay-people felt themselves more secure and wooed unparallel obedience to their master. Pleasing more his people, the Yahve did establish slavery (Gen.9:25). His decision to this end came at the moment when he saw the Noah drunk. In pretension of being in a great anger, he cursed Noah's son, to whom by the way was born a black kid named Canaan. This birth obviously disrupted new plans of Yahve. Because of this, descendants of Ham have been appropriated into perpetual slavery. The unfortunate birth of a black grandson to Noah has had displeased the Yahve so much that ever since then the black are spurned and humiliated, and consequently enlisted into a family of beasts, as the Bible says: "the beasts of the field" (Ex.19:13; Jonah 3:8). Thus the Yahve's slavery with inclusion of Hamites into animal world have a good side effect for this brand of people were kept afar from affairs of Shem's descendants. Thus the Yahve by accident pulled aside almost one third of the world population from civilized nations. It is a great probability, that to Abraham's son Ishmael also was born a black child (being obviously cursed by Yahve) for up to this days have had survived only small amount of Hebrews of black extraction (Falashas in Ethiopia). Some of them now are living in Israel speaking Hebrew. They claim to be descendants of Abraham and are complaining, that are treated by Ashkenazi Jews alike the Hebrews were treated by Israelites in the past (Exodus,Chapter 21). As the Bible says, Arabs are descendants of Ishmael. (Gen.16:3) (VII) Chapter VI - Own Yahves' breeding policy gave him a lesson Unfortunately Yahve did not take into consideration that some traits of his clay-people cannot be inherited and that white mothers may pass upon their children the laws of Almighty, as it did happen with wives of Shem, Ham and Japhet. Their children and grand-grand children did conduct themselves in an unexpected ways. Simply as that, they inherited skillness of their ancestors and have kept in their minds images of other God, than the pretended Yahve. In result they observed laws of Almighty ardently. And Yahve took an advantage of this and prescribed those laws for his children as an assurance that they are as much worthy as the remnants of Almighty's people were. And stealing those laws from Almighty, he gave them to Moses adding three precepts (commandments) which would cement his bonds with his chosen people. Chapter VII - Sad experience of Yahve with Hamites Right after the "Great Deluge" the Yahve through mixed marriages has had also mixed tongues, with one exception - the Hebrew, for as "Kabbalah" by Charles Ponce, U.S.A, 1978 says, it is a breath of Yahve and cannot be changed. And the task of keeping it alive has been assigned to the lineage of Shem. And thus the Hebrew became a sanctity among other languages and a mean of communication among Shemites for the Noah said: "Blessed be the Yahve, the god of Shem" (Gen.9:27). Whoever would find a trace of Almighty's original language of the ante-deluvian Nephilimites, that one would get rid the myth of Hebrew. And such a task seems to be very easy if one would eliminate insertion of the Hebrew out from the other languages. A good candidate is Latin, for no one knows its origin but Jesus Christ who did not scorn this language of Romans. Another candidate is Eblaite, language of the Imperium of Ebla, existing in the Middle East 2600 B.C. (read "The Archives of Ebla" by Giovanni Pettinato, New York, 1981). Some other task has been assigned to the lineage of Japhet. It should consists of many nations and dwell among Shemites without ability to understand them. Ironically enough, descendants of Ham amazingly were able to form a great civilization under the Nimrod, with one parental language and with laws of some other god, than the Yahve. But his occurrence coincided with Yahve's policy of enslavement. Therefore that Nimrod's kingdom had to perish. So Yahve send there a Shemite, called Peleg (Peleg in Hebrew means "division") who perverted the Nimrod's world (Shinar - Sumeria) and has its unity destructed, its language mixed and cities ruined. All of this was done in fear that descendants of Ham being united would find a True God and their enslavement would never be possible. (Gen.11:1- 9) After downfall of Sumeria, it came a need to do the same with Babylonia. At that time in Babylon was active a grandson of Peleg, the Terah, father of Abraham who later on went with similar mission to Egypt. Because he could not accomplish that what had the Peleg, he went to Syria, a half way to Canaan (Palestine), still under occupation by Babylonians. In Syria the Yahwe ordered Abraham to go with his sister Sarai first to Canaan. When arrived there, he started to build altars to the Yahwe and invokes his name (Gen.12:8). To Canaanites that had to mean that pretty soon a new order will prevail. They simply should start a fight for independence and afterward became slaves to the Most High God Yahwe. Chapter VIII - Obedient servant Abraham in Egypt Because of the insurection in Canaan caused great disorder and in result a famine, Abraham had to depart to Egypt following instructions of Yahve. He should arrange a wedding there, using as a bride his wife (sister) Sarai. The groom was, of course, Pharao of Egypt. When the Pharao found out, who is the Sarai, returned her to Abraham, for he did not want to be punished by Almighty for committing adultery. Being happy that he did not fall into sin, the Pharao forgave Abraham his wrong doing, did equip him with lot of goods and slaves and sent back to Canaan. Keeping secret his relation with Sarai, he also kept secret his Hebrew tongue although by origin he was an Aramean of Adamic descent. Since then, at the will of Yahve, such a marriage practices become religious and political rituals allowing Shemites to mingle with other people and to grasp their power. Chapter IX - Abraham back in Canaan When Abraham returned to Canaan, the fightings were almost over. Therefore he made rounds with his slaves and conquered Babylonians very easy. For this vigorous act, Abraham was blessed by the Hamitic priest Melchizedek, who at this time was also the King of Jerusalem worshiping the Almighty. And Abraham deceitfully humbled himself before the Melchizedek who rather shall be his slave but the King and the Priest. Having nothing in store against the Almighty,, the Yahve promised to Abraham to make his descendants uncountable as the stars in the sky, with the help of whom he will take the Canaan into their possession. By saying: "Your descendants shall be aliens in a land not their own where they shall be enslaved" (Gen.11:13) the Yahve did test whether Abraham's obedience will not vanish. So he send Abraham again to Egypt where Hebrews were never slaves. They have privileges there although Egyptians for their religious practices treated them with abomination (Ex.8:22). Also at the time of Abraham's grandson Moses, the Hebrews were respected paying to Pharao only small tributes. Chapter X - Second covenant and new Yahves' reproductive policy Because Hebrews were dispersed everywhere, the Yahve made a change in his previous breeding policy (IV) and now decided to gather them in the land of generous Pharaoh, where from in masse they could be lead to conquer the promised Canaan. So, in fulfilling this new plan, the Abraham coveted an Egyptian slave and she gave birth to Ishmael, a future founder of a great nation (Gen.16:10), which according to the Yahve's desire would help the Hebrews to gain power.(V) Continuing development of the sacred lineage of Shem, to the 90 years old Sarai (Sarai means "one who laugh") the Yahve gave a son Isaac, who will take over Abraham's principles and goals: "I am making you the father of a host of nations, kings shall stem from you" (Gen.17:5-6). And it was a very promising covenant as an encouragement for further actions by both Abraham and Isaac in the interest of their master. And because the Yahve has had promised to make Hebrews uncountable, he also commanded to circumcise all males of Abraham's stem with their slaves together. The circumcision was a necessary mark for ever since the chosen people became white and would be uncountable, they must be distinctive among the other white people (Gentiles) so the Yahve could not miss them. Chapter XI - Punishment of the chosen people for their low reproductivity It was commonly known, that Adamic inhabitants of Sodoma and Gomorrah were sodomitic and not reproductive. Therefore their master did decide to destroy them. At the time of destruction of both cities, daughters of Abraham's brother Lot have lost their fiances. In fear that they might become barren they copulate with their father, by the way preserving the purity of the Shem's lineage. Thus were born founders of Ammon and of Moab, other Shemitic nations, which unfortunately will be fighting with the chosen Israelites of Egypt in the struggle for power (2 Sam.8:2). Chapter XII - Abraham in Philistia (Canaan/Palestine) When the events presented in X and XI were over, the Abraham went into a marriage business with the King of Philistia. He sold his wife Sarai to him. But because the King derived from the lineage of Japhet, faithful to Almighty, and by discovering the deceit did not want to commit adultery, sent the Sarai back to her brother/husband while being intimidated by the strange god Yahve. In order to please that god, he gifted Abraham with whatever he wanted. Thus due to the King's mercifullness, as a pre-Moses commandment says: "Love their neighbor as yourself" the Yahve's couple got a shelter in his land and were prosperous there. But disregarding existing in Philistia order they dug a well without King's permission. That drove them into a quarrel but due to the couple's cheating faculties they bought rights to that well so in the future they could make claim to the entire area, and as we will see later, their descendants will do it also. Chapter XIII - A great test and an oath by the Yahve Shortly after gaining rights to the well in Canaan, the Yahve decided to test Abraham's loyalty. He commanded him to kill his son Isaac. Because Abraham was willing to do so, the happy Yahve did solemnly swear to make descendants of Abraham "As countless as the sand on the Sea shore" (Gen.22:17). In order to make such a promise real, he commanded to stop begetting sisters by brothers, allowing to begat girls by cousins only. This new policy of begetting speed up the birthing process and made it much efficient than before in reproducing the chosen people. In effect, the Abraham urged his son Isaac to purchase his nephew's daughter in Syria. Thus the Rebekah, with a ring in her nostrils became wife of Isaac (Gen.24:47) Chapter XIV - Most efficient breeding of Shemites Abandonment of close family intermarriages was another deviation from existing ordinance of keeping purity of the Shem's lineage, but in the face of rapidly growing populations of Hamites and Japhetites it was a necessity. Therefore came the promise of making Shemites "as countless as the stars of the sky and the sand on the sea", so the plans of Yahve might be fulfilled. But the new brand of Shemites, the Israelites, in time of their victories disobeyed this "most modern breeding precept" of Yahve and were cursed thereof. Chapter XV - Abraham humbles again before inferior Hamites and a secret reincarnation As the new breeding policy goes on, Abraham bowed himself very low before council of Hittites (Hamites), who as it was planned before, should be his slaves than partners. He bows before them despite of his devotion to Yahve, who ever since the Abraham appeared in Canaan was also worshiped or at last honored by local citizens. Due to those bowings he got permission to buy a field with a cave where he could bury his sister/wife Sarai and rest himself there when time to come. This buying was the only one clean-handed deal which Abraham made in his entire life. Why Abraham in this particular case did not break laws of Almighty (Gen.23:5-6) was Yahve's a covenant with Death due to which he reincarnated his servants in secrecy (Num.20:24; 27:24; Deut.32:50 and Luk.9:30-36). Chapter XVI -Preludes for establishment of Israelites, First, Second and Third: (1) And Abraham was very rich. Fulfilling Yahve's order he sent multitude of goods to his family in Syria where he paid for wife for his son Isaac. Her name was Rebekah, sister of Laban ("laban" means white), nephew of Abraham. She bore him twins - Essau and Jacob. But against Yahve's expectation, the first born was black and hairy. Therefore he got the name "Hairy" (Essau). The second got the name "Subplanter" (Jacob) for at the will of Yahve he would disherit the Essau from the sacred lineage of Adamites. And it has had been done in a deceptive manner. (2) At that time in Canaan was famine caused by the force of nature (at the time of Abraham it was caused by ressurection). And Isaac went to the same King of Philistines to whom his father sold his sister/wife Sarai. And he introduced Rebekah as his sister. When the King discovered that lie, became angry for once again might it happen to him to marry a neighbor's woman and thus all his subjects might be punished by Almighty, the God of Nephilimites, of Humans. So the Isaac did not enter the King's court and must to till the soil and to herd flock as long as his master, Yahve would restore his richness. But before it did happen, the envious Philistines have kicked him out of their country. (3) In the other country, the natives forbade Isaac to benefit from a well, which he dug there. And if Yahve would not intervene, he could not stay in that country any longer. In appreciation of the Yahve's intervention, Isaac built an altar to Yahve there and invoked his name all over that country. Getting a message about this, the King of Philistines made a peace agreement with Isaac in the name of his master Yahve, for the Yahve has already been well known in both Philistia and Canaan. Thus the Yahve became equal with local gods due to religious tolerance in those countries. So, unobstructed, the Isaac could mold image and worship of Yahve there although it was not what the master wanted. Chapter XVII - Israel was founded by deception In accordance of common law of that time, first born male gets inheritance. This law could be evaded only by a will of the testator. But Isaac's first born Essau was not suitable to inherit sacred lineage of Shemites, mainly for the reason of having sexual relations with Hamitic women. Without counseling with Isaac, who was influenced by righteous Hamites, the Yahve designated Jacob to be the inheritor. He caused the unaware testator (Isaac) to bless Jacob, instead of Essau. And the blessing became a covenant of Yahve with Isaac: "Let people serve you and nations pay you homage; be master of your brothers, and may your mother's sons bow down to you. Cursed be who curse you, and blessed be who bless you". (Gen.27:29; Isaiah 60:10-16). In this way the first born Essau was deprived of inheritance and did not become founder of Israel. Instead he became founder of Edom and ever since then the Edomites waged wars with Israelites for inheritance and for domination over the ancient world (1 Sam. 14:47).
  3. What is Supernatural Power? What we see with our naked eyes around us is power beyond our capabalities. The ray of the SUN. Hail Storm, Twister, Tsunami, Valcano and Flood. All this natural phenomenas are called supernatral power of nature. No man has the power to stop this supernatural power unleashing its warth on man. But beyond this there is one power that brings warmth and care and that is LOVE. Who else can provide this beside man? Oh! Yes, Man can also bring disaster by exploding bulidings, trains, planes and public places full of innocent people. This is the nature of Asuras who reside in a human along with God. As I have said God to can become Asura when HE is angry by turning on the Valcano, Tsunami, SUN with its ever increasing heat without rain for months, Twisters and Heavy storm tearing down buildings and flood waters drowning buildings and people. But on the other hand when men like Buddha, Adhi Shankara, Swami Ragenvedra, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Arunagirinathar, Thrinavukarasar, Vivekananda and many others like them came to this world only one message and that is the ,message of LOVE among the human race and LOVE for GOD. Only love can change this world into paradise. If you love someone you will not draem of harming that person no matter what. So, if God is LOVE than man has that love in his heart and so if man can develope that love inot compassion he becomes God on earth. He wil only have his supernatural power when he goes back to the spritual world. Please do not expect man to have supernatural power in order to become God. Its faith taht builts the power of LOVE and that becomes the greatest power. May be your angle of looking for God differes but that does not mean others too should think likewise. Discover yourself first before you discover God. Rama and Krishna were God reincarbate according to people of that period. But for this yuga it is in our power to discover such avatars. As Krishna himslef declared that HE will appear from time to time when relgion declines but did not mention when and where or in what race so, if we find someone with certain qualities that resembles God's surely you can take shelter at his feet. Why not, people of the past had done that so what's wrong if it s done now?
  4. You do not know Jesus or Krishna. Whay you know is what you have been told by your Pastors or Priest. Jesus was Jew and he did not come to start a new relgion called Christanity but to rform the old religion whis was then called Judaism. The Jewish religious book or scroll was the sacred words of their prophets. Jesus attempted to help the Jewish pesants by translating the scriptures of the OT in his own way which angred the Jewish elders and chief priest and that caused his arrest and crucification, His friends or folowers as you Christians called are the rebels of the Jewish religion. They after the death of Jesus started a new cult under their leaders name and called it Christanity. This new cult did not make it in the country of its origin but later spread to other parts of the world through word of mouth and concocted stories. There was no proven miracles of Jesus but only hearsay just like the Muslim hadith. The Bible was in fact put to test by well known reachers and even the so called shroud was found to be a fake. I do not have the intention of belittling Christianity or Islam but when situation arise I would speak the truth about this two religion without fear. Many a times I had open disscussion and debate with Christans and Muslims and most of the time they refuse to speak further on the issuse when they were cornered. You bellieve Jesus to be of a divine birth and I would not like to shake you faith in him. As we Hindus believe God dewells is all and did HE in Jesus. And I believe him to be a kind, compassionate, desipilined and truthful person. Such persons are closer to God than any of us. But I believe he had no intention of starting any new cult but to help educate the illetrate Jewish peasants on the Jewish scriptures as at the time the elders of he religion did not think of such. There is no such thing as "eternal life in this physical body". Our soul or spirit is immortal but not our physical body as it will decay after our demise. Science will tell you that when a person dies the body will start decay within 0-3 days. So, how could one have eternal life in this physical body? Do not just take the world of your pastor or priest. You have to do your own research. Ask questions yourself and find the answers with loigic. The duty of a parish priest or pastor is to win you over to their side so that they will have more fund from the parent body. And in order to receive the fund they will go to all extend to even bluff you with all sorts of riduclues stories as what the Muslim ullams are doing. Anothe things is you cannot question their authority and if you do they will say it is blashpeme. Many of you would not question them for fear of branding you. But in Hinduism there is no such thing. We are free to question and you will get a logical answer to all questio regarding Hinduism. The Christians and the Muslims only have one book each to call it their holy bible but we Hindus have severl hundred books and millions of pages. From our vedas came science, astronomy, mathematics, agriculture, engineering, medicine and the way to God. So, you can see for yourself why our religion hads lasted for more than 5,000 years and will last till end of time as we know when the end will come. I hope you will understand what I'm trying to say. So, do not come here with bad intention. If yo want to learn and understand Hinduism than you are most welcome here wotherwise please stay away. May peace be with you. I AM IN YOU
  5. You do not know Jesus or Krishna. Whay you know is what you have been told by your Pastors or Priest. Jesus was Jew and he did not come to start a new relgion called Christanity but to rform the old religion whis was then called Judaism. The Jewish religious book or scroll was the sacred words of their prophets. Jesus attempted to help the Jewish pesants by translating the scriptures of the OT in his own way which angred the Jewish elders and chief priest and that caused his arrest and crucification, His friends or folowers as you Christians called are the rebels of the Jewish religion. They after the death of Jesus started a new cult under their leaders name and called it Christanity. This new cult did not make it in the country of its origin but later spread to other parts of the world through word of mouth and concocted stories. There was no proven miracles of Jesus but only hearsay just like the Muslim hadith. The Bible was in fact put to test by well known reachers and even the so called shroud was found to be a fake. I do not have the intention of belittling Christianity or Islam but when situation arise I would speak the truth about this two religion without fear. Many a times I had open disscussion and debate with Christans and Muslims and most of the time they refuse to speak further on the issuse when they were cornered. You bellieve Jesus to be of a divine birth and I would not like to shake you faith in him. As we Hindus believe God dewells is all and did HE in Jesus. And I believe him to be a kind, compassionate, desipilined and truthful person. Such persons are closer to God than any of us. But I believe he had no intention of starting any new cult but to help educate the illetrate Jewish peasants on the Jewish scriptures as at the time the elders of he religion did not think of such. There is no such thing as "eternal life in this physical body". Our soul or spirit is immortal but not our physical body as it will decay after our demise. Science will tell you that when a person dies the body will start decay within 0-3 days. So, how could one have eternal life in this physical body? Do not just take the world of your pastor or priest. You have to do your own research. Ask questions yourself and find the answers with loigic. The duty of a parish priest or pastor is to win you over to their side so that they will have more fund from the parent body. And in order to receive the fund they will go to all extend to even bluff you with all sorts of riduclues stories as what the Muslim ullams are doing. Anothe things is you cannot question their authority and if you do they will say it is blashpeme. Many of you would not question them for fear of branding you. But in Hinduism there is no such thing. We are free to question and you will get a logical answer to all questio regarding Hinduism. The Christians and the Muslims only have one book each to call it their holy bible but we Hindus have severl hundred books and millions of pages. From our vedas came science, astronomy, mathematics, agriculture, engineering, medicine and the way to God. So, you can see for yourself why our religion hads lasted for more than 5,000 years and will last till end of time as we know when the end will come. I hope you will understand what I'm trying to say. So, do not come here with bad intention. If yo want to learn and understand Hinduism than you are most welcome here wotherwise please stay away. May peace be with you. I AN IN YOU
  6. FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE CONTACT: Vikram Masson (201)674 2065 (USA) navyashastra@shastras.org (www.shastras.org) Navya Shastra Endorses Government of India Plan to Examine Laws of Manu. Commends Hindu Leaders for Initiating Anti-Untouchability Campaign Troy, Michigan--July 5, 2005--Navya Shastra, an international organization of scholars, practitioners and priests dedicated to fostering the spiritual equality of all Hindus, commends the Government of India's Scheduled Caste and Scheduled Tribe Commission for initiating a dialog with Hindu religious leaders on abolishing discriminatory scriptures from the Hindu corpus of sacred texts. The Commission singled out the Laws of Manu for careful scrutiny, stating that it has divided Hindus based upon caste."In order to fulfill the egalitarian aspirations of the world's one billion Hindus, it is important that we carefully examine the religious sources of caste discrimination," said Dr. Jaishree Gopal, Navya Shastra Co-Chairman, "and though the Laws of Manu and other similar texts are not legally binding in the Republic of India, many upper-caste Hindus have internalized the hierarchical values contained in the text and find in it a religious basis for the continuing oppression of the lower castes," she added. Navya Shastra also commends a group of religious leaders in Andhra Pradesh and Karnataka for initiating an anti-untouchability campaign in the region. A group of seers will compose a new mantra to end religious discrimination and have promised to agitate for the rights of Harijans to conduct religious ceremonies at temples throughout India. "For too long, Hindu religious leaders have remained silent despite soaring levels of caste discrimination in rural India. It is heartening to see them finally taking a stand," said Vikram Masson, Navya Shastra Co-Chairman.
  7. NAVYA SHASTRA VISION STATEMENT Hinduism is facing a great many challenges, both external and internal. On the outside, ill-wishers are trying to malign and dismantle it. Within, we have practitioners and leaders who are insensitive to, or unaware of the social, political, and ethical forces that are sweeping the world. Navya Shastra consists of a group of Hindus who deeply love and care for our rich and ancient tradition. We are also very concerned about its future. We strongly feel that one major blemish in the Hindu world (within India) is the pernicious aspect of the caste system which denies equal spiritual rights to all Hindus, and imposes a conceptual hierarchy that considers some Hindus to be superior/inferior to other Hindus on the basis of their birth. We do not think that the dehumanization of Hindus or of any other people is part of the Vedas, Sanskrit or Tamil. If some shastras tolerated or encouraged caste-based social injustices, we reject them, and declare it is time to formulate a system of values consistent with the age in which we live (yugadharma). We are against caste hierarchy and caste injustices, not only because they are not sanctioned in the Vedas, but also because they are morally wrong, unacceptable, and anachronistic in the world in which we live. We also need to rid Hindu society of its caste constraints, because they undermine the future of the religion as a viable system in the modern world. We are dreaming of a day when the loftier Hindu visions in Sanatana Dharma will spread all over the world. There will come a time when practitioners of other religious systems will resonate with the universal values and visions that are implicit in the roots of Hinduism. We invite all our Hindu brothers and sisters to join us in raising their voices against casteism, and for making Hinduism a greater religion than what she has ever been. Lobby all dharmacharyas to reflect on the fossilized iniquities in Sanatana Dharma. We will actively strive to catalyze the Hindu leadership into addressing the caste issue and other salient social issues. Engender a national debate on a Navya Shastra--one that would redress the inequalities inherent in the caste system. While the spiritual intuition of our sages is timeless and eternal, the social tenets which govern Hindu society have never been static--our lawgivers have reinterpreted them in different eras. Conduct a respectful dialogue on reformulating the social tenets of Sanatana Dharma, in which all members of our community are welcomed to participate. Keep a consolidated, indexed list of press reports relating to this decision and other issues. Establish an electronic journal for which we will invite contributions on the subject of Hindu renewal. From time to time, members of our organization will interview religious leaders, gathering their opinions and ideas on this subject. Track and promote the efforts of Hindu organizations and charities who are working to eradicate caste discrimination in India.
  8. What is it with this phychiatrist business? If you think the child has something uniques or has a gift from the Devine, surely the child would know how to save itself for the clutches of the evil one. If there is a purpose for that gift you so mention. I think you are obssesed with this too much and I'm afraid you might end up in that phychiatrict ward one day. Please give it up..no more of this talk. [i have watched the Sign, 6th Sense (my favorite - for obvious reason) and The Village from N. Syamalan ... not bad for an Indian fellow who making a name for himself in Hollywood.] Why what's wrong with the Indian fellow. Do you doubt Indian intelligent? Civiliztion was born in India when Europe was in dark ages. Indians can teach many good things that the Hollywood can learn. Hollywood directors are inspired by Indian epic such as Ramayana and Mahabaratha. Many films are directed from such stories. Anway, coming back to your hatred for this womnan, surely she must had a good reason to invite you to her house. You could have helped her in her predictment. May form there you could have gained some good things. But..uh! you missed that golden opportunity. [You really don't know how to read properly, do you? ] Sorry, may be I'm getting too old and my eyes are blurr...forgive mme for any misquotes. [Hmph ... you got my face wrong. And when you give, give, give and give, in the end, you going to have nothing to give and people going to call you useless. I hope you still be happy when that happens.] You are no different from a typical Indian. Afraid of what others would say...Is that what you think? Give, give and give and in the end nothing...How would you know that in the end you would nothing when you have not fully given till the end. Are you smarter than GOD that you know the end result. I thought you were more smarter than to think otherwise. Sorry,.. I cannot understand your behaviour. Krishna said whatever you do, do in in my name and I will protect you. So, where is your faith? No wonder, you seem to have endless problems. Again sorry, if my remarks seem stupid to you. I feel sorry for you and hope you'd find a solution to you unending problems. I AM IN YOU.
  9. The problem here is you and you alone want to be be right and win the situation. Sorry, it does not work that way. [Yeah, sure ... I can say I was due to suffer because in the past, our lives could be interwined and I could have caused him/her to suffer. Knowing such, I could do good things to others despite of the suffering others causing me but to what extend? Goodness given back in form of further suffering? Is that fair?] No one can give you that answer. The time frame is fixed by your birth chart. Consult a good astrologer to find a remedy. In short you wish to know why you were sent here. What is fair and what is not? Did you ask what kind of a family you wish to be born? Did you choose the kind parents you wish to have? No, even in your next life you cannot choose the kind of parents you wish to have or the kind of body you wish to be born into. All these are predsetined as you journey into life. This is the mistry of life and that is why we are prompted to discover the creator. To discover HIM you need to dicover yourself first, only than you'd be able to know the ultimate truth. We are here to exhaust our KARMA and once it is over we will depart to take the next course. [However, what does the Science do? Screw it up even further by shoving medicine down his throat, or some fanatic parents take the child to a priest to convince their child he is possessed.] That is the choice one take when all avenues failed. So, do not blame the doctors for trying their method. No one forced you to seek modern medicine but ones own choice and that is the work of KARMA too. One could be cured by natural process if it was willed by your KARMA otherwise a futher suffering is in store. [ I hardly think the movie "Exorcist" is suitable as an example. However, have you seen the movie "Gothika"? The husband to the character played by the actress (forgot the name) did an interesting thing. He poured water into a glass, gave it to her, brought her in front of a mirror and asked her to pour it onto her mirage in the mirror. The image gets disorted by the water and he said a very interesting thing. "You are the mirror and what they (mental patients) see in you are reflection of themselves." - Gothika (the movie). I recommend you watch it.] Yeh! I've seen that too but I suggest you see Night Syamalan's movie, which would be much more interesting. Anyway 'EXOCIST' was an adoptstion of true story while Gothika was fiction but both were good entertanment. [i don't know who Sai Baba is or what ISKON is ... ALL I know and care to know is God, not Man. Thank you.] You tickle me... It's from man that we came to know GOD and it's man who would show the path to GOD. That is why I insist you discover yourself before searching for the ULIMATE TRUTH. The Rishis who gave us the scriptures were men like you and me but much more intelliget and with ESP and able to communicate with the Supreme Brahman. They had nothing else in the world to worry of except to mediate upon the Supreme Being whereas you and me have thousand and one question in our mind and worry about tomorrows meal and so on. Remember the mind is the key to everything in this world. When ones makes proper use of it if his/her KARMA is good and paradise what he/she enjoys otherwise it's hell. [What is the use of being a free spirit in a world where everyone attend to drag you down and lock you away? ] You worry too much and there is no smile in your face. I can visualise your facial expression. Learn to give rather and receive. The real peace comes from giving not expecting anything in return. If you behave like a shrewed businessman the end result would be devastating. [Hmph ... don't talk to me about my past actions. I know where I came from and why I suffer due to MY own actions ... however, I will not suffer for sake of others so they could feel good. That is stupid. What is the difference between a woman who abuse you verbally because you do not come to HER house and praise HER home and career with someone like a father coming home drunk and beat the . out of the child? Are you going to say - the child's karma is to suffer, therefore, let him suffer? How much suffering considered enough to fullfil a past mistake? Fine ... I killed people (a lot of them) in my past existence and I'm doing penance for it in this. Maybe I will be doing the same for the next few lifetimes ... I accept. But if someone comes to you and say "I'm going to punish you because it is your Karma to suffer" ... does it make sense? ] I see the problem you here.. A woman is the cause of your problems. You hate the world because you were let down by a women. That poor soul is stuck in the a woman's body to cause you these problems and she seek your help but you turn her down because of your ego. Anw now you feel depressed and dejected. The only way you can get over this is seek a guru and get his help. I'm sure you will know where to go otherwise you will face more problems. Everthing that happens is for a good cause but to us somethings might look bad that is because we feel the world world owes us a living. No it does not. It's we who make this world and it we who should put things in the right place. All problems can be solved if you use your mind the way it should be. Intelligent does not come from learning books alone but from life's experience. Some people think haveing a PHD or Masters behind their name would solve their worldly problems. Sorry it does not work that way..... I AAM IN YOU
  10. Maybe this will jolt your mind for a second. Interspersed throughout the hymns collected in the Rig Veda are references to a single god or single principle which is the source or the totality of all other divinities and phenomenon in the universe. These originary divinities can be concrete, such as the World Maker (Vishvakarman), or highly abstract, such as Rita, or cosmic order, an idea similar to the Chinese concept of the Tao< or the Great Ultimate. Upanishadic literature tended to talk about this unitary or single divinity, power, or principle to the exclusion of most other gods, so that philosophically Indian thought during the Vedantic period moved towards the One in the dichotomy of the one and the many, approaching in many instances some of the same conclusions Parmenides and the Eleatic philosophers did in ancient Greece. This single, unitary divinity had several aspects and names in the Upanishads, one of the most important of which is Atman, a word that originally meant "breath" or "soul" or "vital principle" (as the word "Atmen" does in German). As a cosmological principle or deity, Atman seems to be something like "universal soul" or "universal spirit." In the Brihad-Aranyaka Upanishad , Atman is explicitly called a Person that created the universe by first splitting himself into male and female halves. In the Chandogya Upanishad, this single god is called Brahman, and is "the One without a second"; this Brahman is not only the principle and creator of all there is, but is also fully present within each individual. This dual conception, Brahman and Atman, gets worked out in the following way. Brahman can be located both in the physical, external world and also in the spiritual and inner world where it is present as Atman, "universal spirit." Now every human being has an undying soul (atman) which, because of samsara, lasts through eternity from life to life; this undying atman is a microcosm of Atman, the universal spirit. By understanding yourself, by coming to know one's own soul, one then arrives at the knowledge of Atman itself; the key to understanding the nature of the one unitary principle of the universe is to see one's (undying) self as identical with that principle: "tat svam asi": That (Atman) is what you are, Svetaketu. (Chandogya Upanishad VI.8.4ff.) Here's the equation: Brahman=Atman=atman. Brahman is the totality of the universe as it is present outside of you;, Atman is the totality of the universe as it is present within you; Brahman is the totality of the world known objectively, Atman is the totality of the world known subjectively. This equation fundamentally underlies the whole of Krishna's teachings concerning dharma in the Baghavad Gita. Richard Hooker
  11. [And how do you know I'm not a psychologist? Besides, you do not need to be a psychologist or a mind reader to know what I say is true, you just need Logic.] May be may be not but even psychologist tend to err. So idf you are, then your are not an exception. When I say "read mind" it does not mean reading like a book. It's only a figure of speech. Boy! No wonder people seem to keep a distance from you. You are too intelligent for them. [Karma is NOT an excuse for continue to do stupid things. And I spoke of people who are hypocritics, who hides their guilt but show off as God-fearing people.] When KARMA is at work you don't call that stupid. If it was good action in the past life one will enjoy and do good things in this life otherwise it would be all bad action in this life which in term is stupid. Without such hypocrites you would not know the difference and so they are there for you to learn not follow. [ I speaks regarding kids born "different" (extra-ordinary), not speaking of myself in any particular way. I have seen many cases where such children were forced to take medicine which further alters their brain, in order to become "normal" again. I thought Sai Baba was a fraud (that curly hair fellow in late 1980s who was proven to cheat others, right?). I hardly think such person's words have any bearing in this matter.] Now you are speaking of science. Have you seen 'EXORCIST'? See how modern science is at work. Psycatrist call it in their own terms as brain disorder. But religion term it as possessed. So, you cannot blame modern science for their disbelief in such matters. Boy! You do really have some serious problems. Picking on every thing that is not up to your intellectual quality. There you are again. You only thought but fail to investigate. May be reading too much . news. You do not have a slightest idea of who Sai Baba is, yet you jump to conculsion from materials written by anti Baba critics. And how do you know he was a fraud? Were you cheated by him? Did he promised you sometng and failed to render? Were you at his asram and discovered that he cheats? Try and find answers to these question first before accusing him of fraud. I know of some ISKCON speaking evil of him and trying to discredit his work. But that is thier low quality of being but what about you. Are of the same quality? [Read again ... I'm speaking of people who ARE in spiritual path and ARE boosting their own acheivement to show off. I really don't give a rat-a$$ about this so-called true spiritualist as you claim. Who are they and where they are? Are they going around with some selfish notion of returning to God while other fellow men suffer in delusion? Is such foolish and selfish people can even considered Spiritualist in the first place?] 'EGO' THat is your worst enemy. Remove that 'I' and you will be a free spirit. Again let me remind you. When KARMA is at work you do not call the selfish. Some have been destined to be so while others have a duty to help the needy and Sai Baba is carrying out that for the needy by provinding free medical care and free food everyday of the year. I think you are confused and misplaced in society. [Nope ... whatever options you receive depends on your past karma, what choice you make now, makes your future Karma. Know Karma properly] Is that so?....I rest my case. [i know what I must do ... thank you very much. But I still dislike this world ... hopes it will vanish soon. ] Do you realy?...That is your past action that you dislike this world. Now that is the option you received from your past KARMA. But you wis could not be fulfilled coz you do not have that OPTION. I AM IN YOU
  12. 1..[Let's look at this in Mathematical terms. Assume God's Minimum Value (characteristics and Nature) is 1,000 and Man's Maximum Value (characteristic and Nature) is 100.] You do not know God's Minimum or man's Maximum Value. Please explian Swami Ramalingam's Value. There are many things you do not know about man's total value of atma sakthi. So making assumption is useless. 2...[God can "create" a lower form by using a fraction of His Value (about 100 or more ... even 101) and become a Man, thus appearing to other Man as a perfect Man. Man however, no matter how hard he tries, cannot exceed his physical handicap and go above the Value of 100 (because that is limitation of his mental, physical and spiritual aspects). So, Man can never become God even so he could mimic Him in some ways. ] As I have said earlier in my other reply that even if God walks along you as man, you would not reconize HIM. So how would you assess HIS value? 3...[ True nature of God is beyond Man's capability to understand and what we understand of God comes from what we understand of Nature. What we understood from Nature, however, comes from only a small fraction of what we know from this World, and not other countless worlds out there.] Yes, you are right because I can understand what you mean here. But that fits only to those who have not discovered themselves and trying to search for God elsewhere. And you my friend is added to that group. 4...[ Like the example of judging an Artist by his painting, you can only guess and come out with logical deduction of what an artist could be like (based on a single Art), yet there is other arts out there by the same artist, which we need to examine to get further insight but not capable of doing so now. ] Yes! Here I must give you credit for your correct perception. I know that you cannot be wrong all the time so credit should be given where it is due. So, in your earlier posting[Hmmmmmm] can I say you are contradicting your own statement? I rest my case. I AM IN YOU
  13. [1.. People talk and behalf about Opening their Minds, but they do not understand that they actually had Closed their Mind due to factors like religion, beliefs, personal ideals etc.] You are not a psycologist to assess their thoughts. Until and unless you are a mind reader. [2..2. People talk and boost that they are God-fearing people but in reality, they just ... hypocritics whose sole purpose seems to hide their guilt in their hearts.] A wise man would not find the bad qualities of people prefer to remain silent as he would realize that it is all work of karma. [3...People talk how children born with extra-ordinary sensors are gifts from God/s to Men and such but in reality, fear such children, even ridicule and abuse them. ] Yes, and can I include you in that catagory? Just reminding you of your comments against Sai Baba. [4... People talk about how great their spiritualism is and what great feats and paths they are talking but in reality, they just finding ways to cease their own guilt and make more fortune for themselves.] In reality those who are true spritualist do not boast of their achievments but are humble at all times. [5.. I feel that people are living in Duality nowadays more than what they used to be (back in 1970s). People say one thing but their hearts feel different. The speech is false and actions are half-hearted.] Sorry to say this but I feel you need help. Is this your discovery of the 21st century? The world is not made solely for saints or adharmis. It is a blended mixture of all kinds for us to learn. The lesson we learn becomes a guidence for the journey in life. It takes all kinds to form this world so either you live with that or depart from it. Do not expect God to come directly to you and tell you what you must do. You have your own freewill and you are free to make the choice. Whatever choice you make depends on your past KARMA. Think about it. I AM IN YOU
  14. Man and God has a link and that link is the Atma. Hindus knew all along this and that is why we had divine persons such as Adhi Shankara, RamaKrisna Paramamsa, Swami Ramalinga Adigal, Swami Vivakananda and many more to come. Below is an argument between the Christian aspect and the Muslims ignorant thoughts. God is infinite. Matter is finite. God could not become a man. Muslims deny that Jesus could be God in flesh. They affirm that He was a great prophet, but they clearly deny His divinity. One of the reasons is Muslims are taught that God is infinite and that He could not become a finite man. In other words, the infinite God cannot become finite man. They say it doesn't make sense. One Muslim asked me how God who is dependent on nothing, can then become dependent as a man. He said that by definition God is not dependent upon anyone, therefore to become dependent is impossible. Another said that if God became a man, he could not then become a god again because a man cannot become a god. These questions reveal how Muslims think. They have such a strict idea about God, that they cannot admit the possibility of Him (or part of Him) becoming a man. Any idea of an incarnation becomes ludicrous to them. They claim that it isn't logical. Muslims are also taught that the Bible is corrupted and that only the Qur'an is perfect. So, to quote from the Bible makes little impact on them. Many Muslims have required logical proofs for the theory of the incarnation instead of biblical references. I attempt to oblige them here. The following outline is designed to answer the objections raised by Muslims. In "Premise one," the objections are in bold. The answers to them follow. Premise one: According to Islam, God can do anything. If this is so, then it necessarily follows that if God can do anything, then he can become a man since that possibility falls under the scope of "God can do anything." This would mean that God stopped being God. Since God can do anything, according to the premise above, then God could do this without stopping being God. See part "b." in next objection. If God, in some way, became a man, it does not necessitate that He stop being divine. He could simple add to Himself human nature. This would mean that the infinite God became finite. Not if a "part" of God entered into a human form. The totality of God could still exist, yet a localized "part" could take the form of a man. Is not the Qur'an the word of Allah? Is not His word a reflection of His character since it proceeds from Him? Is not the infinite word of Allah made to become knowable, readable in a physical form for us to understand? Since this is so, why cannot the Word of God become flesh -- as the Bible says? Why cannot a representation of God (His word) take a physical form (Qur'an) or even a human form (Jesus) -- since God can do anything? This would mean that the independent became dependent. It would not necessitate that the totality of God became dependent, per point "b." above: a part of God could become man. God can choose to become dependent, in part, as a man. He can make that choice, can he not? This would mean that the eternal became temporal. Again, by premise one, God could do it since He can do all things. If God, in some way, became a man by adding human nature to Himself, it would not necessitate that God stop being eternal since His divine nature would be, by nature, eternal as it is retained within the human form. If God became man, then he could not become God again. If only a "part" of God became man, then God would never have ceased being God and the objection is moot. If God can do all things, then a part of Him can become a man and retain His divine nature and never have stopped being God at all. Why would God need to become a man? Showing He has a need means he is dependent. It is not a need. It is a choice. God is not compelled to do anything -- except be Himself. If He chose to become a man, it would be by His desire, not by His need. If God can do anything, then He can choose to share in the dependency of a human and not deny his own nature of being God. Premise two: God cannot do anything, because He cannot do anything that conflicts with His nature. Becoming a man conflicts with His nature. To say God's nature does not permit Him, in some way, to become a man requires that the Muslim establish those aspects of God's nature that negate the possibility of an incarnation, otherwise it is only the Muslim's opinion. God's nature has to do with essential character and essence of His being like holiness, love, compassion, goodness, patience, etc. There is nothing in holiness, love, compassion, goodness, patience, etc., that would mean God could not become a man. God's attributes are inherent characteristics like eternality, infinity, invisibility, omniscience, omnipotence, omnipresence, speech, creativity, etc. None of the above attributes negate the possibility of a part of God becoming man. The essential nature of something is not changed if a part of it adds humanity. Premise Three: God's nature can be partially seen in His creation. As a painter reveals part of himself, his style, what he is, etc., in his painting, so too, God has revealed part of Himself, His style, and what He is in His creation. The universe is ordered; therefore, God is a God of order. The universe operates on laws; therefore, God is a God of law. The universe has a beginning; therefore, God is the creator. The universe is immense (functionally infinite); therefore, God is infinite. The universe is comprised of three primary aspects: Space, Time, and Matter. Space is comprised of height, width, and depth - a trinity - but each aspect is by nature space. Time is comprised of past, present, and future - a trinity - but each aspect is by nature time. Matter is comprised of solid, liquid, and gas - a trinity -but each aspect is by nature matter. Therefore, we can conclude from looking at the universe, and God as its creation, that it is possible for God to have a trinitarian aspect to His nature. If it is fair to say that God may indeed be trinitarian in some aspect of His nature, then God could be a plurality and all aspects of this plurality, being of God, would be divine by nature. Since God is self-aware, has a will, can speak, etc., then it follows that the plural aspects of God would share, in some way, those same qualities. If this is possible, then why cannot part of God, since God is a plurality, become a man and add human nature to itself? There is no logical reason to declare the impossibility of God being trinitarian or that He, in some way, could become a man. The Bible has declared that God is indeed a Trinity and that Jesus is both God and man (John 1:1, 14; Col. 2:9; etc.).
  15. HE has also said HE will appear when ever religion is in decline and adharma is supreme. And most of us cannot deny that religion is declining and adharma is supreme now. And furthermore none of this generation or the next would see Kalki coz that Avatar would only appear at the end of Kali which is some few houdred thousand years to go. Righteous men are seeking God now not some few hundred thousand years later. Being blind inside even if HE is walking along you, you would not reconize HIM because you're doubtful Thomas.
  16. There are many things that are not part of the Vedas but yet the truth is out there. Vedas were revealed for the period but puranas were later written from knowledge of revelation and immersion with the Supreme Being. The 63 Tamil Saints are and example of real devotion to God and fellow human beings as well as other creatures. You have not learn about them and so you would not understand just like Christians and Muslims who have not learned or have any knowledge of Hinduism. I'm surprised that you are lie one of them.
  17. Messages can be relayed but it is up to the receiver if he wants to accept it or not. Scriptures were written a few thousand years ago yet man in the 21st century accepts it as authentic. Why? Because of his faith in it. But here we are wittnesing a phenomena but yet some do not want to accept it. Why? Because they feel they know all pretty well and that the last Avathar will be coming on a white horse with sword in hand. Just like the Christans believe the second coming of Christ in his same form which form they have not seen in their life. Another thing man does not believe is that man can never not be God. That is because he does not realize that the unseen God resides in him. He does do believe that Atman is Brahman. Yet he soly believes the Gita which was written some few thousand years ago. Faith is the driving force in all. It's faith that does wonders. And what is faith? The use of your mind is positive manner can create miracles. If everyone uses that brain which is a unique organ of the body one can even walk on water. Baba is God incarnate to some believers while others believe he is a fraud. Let the believers befefit form his grace while others keep on chanting for miracle. There is no difference, whatever you do as long as one believe in the All Mighty and do service to mankind the grace of God will be there, otherwise it's a fruitless afford in a man's journey through life.
  18. Real Worship By Swami Vivekananda Address at the Rameshwaram Temple The Complete Works of Swami Vivekananda Vol III Published by Advaita Ashram, Mayavati, Himalayas. It is in love that religion exists and not in ceremony, in the pure and sincere love in the heart. Unless a man is pure in body and mind, his coming into a temple and worshipping Shiva is useless. The prayers of those that are pure in the mind and body will be answered by Shiva, and those that are impure and yet try to teach religion to others will fail in the end. External worship is only a symbol of internal worship; but internal worship and purity are the real things. Without them, external worship would be of no avail. Therefore you must all try to remember this. This is the gist of all worship – to be pure and to do good to others. People have become so degraded in this Kali Yuga that they think they can do anything, and then they can go to a holy place, and their sins will be forgiven. If a man goes with an impure mind into a temple, he adds to the sins that he had already, and goes home a worse man than when he left it. Tirtha (place of pilgrimage) is a place which is full of holy things and holy men. But if holy people live in a certain place, and if there is no temple there, even that is a Tirtha. If unholy people live in a place where there may be a hundred temples, the Tirtha has vanished from that place. And it is most difficult to live in a Tirtha; for if sin is committed in an ordinary place it can easily be removed, but sin committed in a Tirtha cannot be removed. This is the gist of all worship – to be pure and to do good to others. He who sees Shiva in the poor, in the weak, and in the diseased, really worships Shiva; and if he sees Shiva only in the image, his worship is but preliminary. He who has served and helped one poor man seeing Shiva in him, without thinking of his caste, or creed, or race, or anything, with him Shiva is more pleased than with the man who sees Him only in temples. Those who serve the servants of God are His greatest servants. A rich man had a garden and two gardeners. One of these gardeners was very lazy and did not work; but when the owner came to the garden, the lazy man would get up and fold his arms and say : “How beautiful is the face of my master”, and dance before him. The other gardener would not talk much, but would work hard, and produce all sorts of fruits and vegetables which he would carry on his head to his master who lived a long way off. Of these two gardeners, which would be more beloved of his master? Shiva is that master, and this world is His garden, and there are two sorts of gardeners here; the one who is lazy, hypocritical, and does nothing, only talking about Shiva’s beautiful eyes and nose and other features; and the other, who is taking care of Shiva’s children, all those that are poor and weak, all animals, and all His creation. Which of these would be the more beloved of Shiva? Certainly he that serves His children. He who wants to serve the father must serve the children first. He who wants to serve Shiva must serve His children – must serve all creatures in this world first. It is said in the Shastras (scriptures) that those who serve the servants of God are His greatest servants. So you will bear this in mind. Let me tell you again that you must be pure and help any one who comes to you, as much as lies in your power. And this is good Karma. By the power of this, the heart becomes pure (Chitta-shuddhi), and then Shiva who is residing in everyone will become manifest. He is always in the heart of everyone. If there is dirt and dust on a mirror, we cannot see our image. So ignorance and wicked ness are the dirt and dust that are on the mirror of our hearts. Selfishness is the chief sin, thinking of ourselves first. He who thinks, “I will eat first, I will have more money than others, and I will possess everything”, he who thinks, “I will get to heaven before others, I will get Mukti (liberation) before others” is the selfish man. The unselfish man says, “I will be last, I do not care to go to heaven, I will even go to hell if by doing so I can help my brothers.” Unselfishness is the test of religion This unselfishness is the test of religion. He who has more of this unselfishness is more spiritual and nearer to Shiva than anybody else, whether he knows it or not. And if a man is selfish, even though he has visited all the temples, seen all the places of pilgrimage, and painted himself like a leopard, he is still further off from Shiva.
  19. Where is the proof? If Islam claims there is a hell and Haven, where is the proof. Do not give me the . saying it is in the Koran. But we Hindus can show proof of hell and haven. It is right here and behold we are seeing it with our naked eyes. A man who enjoys tranquality and contended with his life is actually in haven here while one who is greedy and steal someone's earnig or property, commits atrocity will in the next life suffer in the hands of others. Begging in the streets and no place to call home, suffering with incurable disease is hell and that too can be seen here. Now, where is the hell and haven Islam speaks about? If it is after death than that is . as no dead muslim has ever come back to relate his experience in haven. I do not wish to be rude but please be advice that there is a limit to everything. We have thousands of questions that no Muslims can answer or have the guts but we Hindus do not shy away from any questions fom Muslims who are ignorant of Hinduism. No Mulsim to date has ever participated or wish to debate with Hindu scholars for fear of getting bombarded. Even the so call Muslim speaker Dudet can only write or speak to ignorant Christians but dare not take a challenge to debate with Hindu scholars. Please ask him why? We are not against the belief of Muslims as that is their right to profess but do not question our belief as it is also our right to profess our religion. But at the same time if they have any doubt there is no harm in getting the clarification instead of being sacarstic. Remember Hinduism has been on the face of this earth for more than 10,000 years before it was called Hnduism by the Persians. While Islam is just over l400 years. Mathematics and Science were from the Hindu sastras which were stolen by the invading Muslims and now they say it belongs to Islam and is written in the koran. How clever these barbarians were 1400 years ago... As I have said I do not wish to speak evil of any religion but enough is enough. Please tell the Muslims to really search their heart instead of the koran and hadith. If Hindus had intended some 5000 years ago they could have conqured the whole of Asia and Europe if they wanted. But that is not Hinduism. It is at your own free will if you want to discover Hinduism. We do not force anyone. Hinduism is an open book for all to read.
  20. barney

    the law

    Now I see why you always have this wrong peception. The question is "IF" you had a chance. If the chance is given to you by GOD to defend that person surely you can but otherwise you will be panic striken and frozen on the spot. Everything that happens in this world of ours has a purpose and the answer lies deep inside you and everyone else. Discover that before you jump the gun. Each and everyone is this life is born according to predestination and you or anyone cannot change that. If you want to change that you need to go back to the source and that is GOD. Life is not a computed programme where you can reprogramme or delete as you like. Life is more complex than that. A women may concieve a child but it's the karma of the child that decides if he is going to live or die in the womb. Take a look at the children in Euthopia, tell me if they will live to see the next day. Everything in life works accodring to KARMA be it bad or good but the result is what you and I receive in our lifetime. From here all that is being done will be carried to the next life wherever or whatever you and I a going to be. So, understand this first before you make silly statements.
  21. It can be of any of the thirumoorthis. Brahma, Vishnu or Shiva. They are all the same and one in three different aspects. HE creats, HE preserves and HE destroys. Just like your father is a father to you, a husband to your mother and a head of the family. When man can play so many parts in his life why can God. If you think HE is MURUGAN than HE would be so to you coz the name MURUGAN menas beauty. All names of GOD relates to the quality, beauty and compassion. So do not be deluded by this so call professors of religion as they feel they are the keepers of the HIndu religion. Mediate on God in your own way and HE will answer your prayers if is beneficial to you and all. I AM IN YOU
  22. It is like saying he killed my people and so I will kill his people and if it contunues as such he and him would not have any more people to kill. Then what? There is something wrong somewhere for such hatred and irrational thinking among fellow human beings. What is the real issue or the cause of this problems that people all over the world are facing? The answer lies in each and every individual's heart. Be him a Muslim, a Hindu, a Christian, a Budhist, a Cult follower or an Atheist. They all have something in common and that is their belief. It is the teachings and wrong interpretation of their faith. To have a peaceful world and loving society of all kinds, do not take religion as a national issue but as an individual matter. Let him/her believe in whatever faith he/her wish to embrace. Respect their belief and so will he/she will respect your faith. Tell the world religion did not come to break up mankind but to unite with the Supreme Being and al paths lead to the same one GOD. Whatever path one choses let him/she be peace with it. Do not boast that yours is the right path and true God. Do not make others feel guilty by spreading false or malicious statement to hurt their feelings. Show only love for the human race and nothing else. Remember when those affected by tsunami where crying for help people who gave their hand did not see what religion they belong to or what their race is. They only thought of human suffering and they did their best to provide all help in kind and cash. Why do you want to waste your life by living in such evil thoughts which would only bring enemity among fellow humans. We are here to provide a peaceful, condusive and producitive world for ourself and the future generation. By behaving in a manner that creates fear and hatered would not make this world a paradise but hell for ourself. All men should start putting their thinking cap and become a born again human being insted of born again Christian, Muslim or a Hindu. SHAME ON ALL.
  23. GOD referes to the unseen supernatural energy we call by many names. The Hindus refer to IT as Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva or even as a female i.e Durga and Sakthi. The muslims refer to IT as Allah and the Christians and Jews as Jehova or Yhave. Many others refer to IT as All Mighty Lord. Call IT in whatever name you wish and IT will asnwer to your call. As it is the gurdian and creator of this universe IT is there at you back and call. But at the same time it also likes to play with our mind and we call that game as test. You may have a different perception of IT and would like to follow what te scriptures discribe IT but as I as a human who has a brain to think and explore have a different way of rationalising this Supreme Energy we call Brahman. It may not be written in simple way to understand IT but this is what I think of the unseen power we call GOD. May be a few hundred years from now this may be understood better but for now this is what I can deduce.
  24. Grace of the Divine is abbreviated as GOD. Divine is the unseen power or the supernatural power that controls this universe. It is formless and yet can take a from in a twinkle of an eye. Man, since civilization had called HIM/IT the great ONE. IT has no gender, color, creed, race or vacumme. You cannot see IT but ITS presense could be felt. IT is more powerful then thousand suns. But IT extends ITS energy or power to all life form. We, fight over this power for no reason. If we think that this Supernatural Being or energy is the creator and guardian of the universe than the only right thing to do is thank IT for providing us this vast platform as a dwelling place and the natural surrounding habitable for other lower forms of life. It is every man's right to thank IT in his own way instead of setting guide lines and restrictions, which only segregates and become bitter enemies instead of unity. Some make statements that having icons or offerings is a sin, while others say IT has forms and you can thank IT by having an icon of IT. Than there is this group that says whoever believes that IT has form and do not eccept our ways are heathens or non believers who are considered outcaste by such so called believers. There are those even out to kill if you refuse to accept thier way in thier country. Who are these people to dictate what is the right path? They too have not seen or heard from IT but yet claim to have exclusive right. I would call these people fanatics of the highest degree. For thousand of years wise men calling themsleves yogis, shadus, rishis and Sidhars have contemplated on this power or Supernatural energy we call GOD. Many good and bad had come out of IT. Some are useful and some are dangerous to the minds of simpletons. I simply cannot understand the rational behind all this squabbbling about something that is beyond our commprehension. Whatever way one is applying to thank or reach IT is his prerogative and no one has the right to restrain him from doing so. Everyone may be in the right direction but taking a different path and would eventually meet at the one spot that we are fighting for. The nameless one can only observe but cannot dictate or direct the human race to ITS way. That is why we say freewill. This world has vast knowledge hidden everywhere and it is our right to tap that knowledge and lead a better life than make a fool of ourselves and end up coming back again and again. Remember, you are only here once and the next time you are here it would not be the same body, same parents or friends. So make use of this life for a better purpose than make enemies of everybody.
  25. It's a pitty not all would understand the real truth. Anyway, sooner or later they will even if it takes another 6 births. Some ignorant people are searching for God in some place they call haven not realizing that HE is within them. As you have said the Sun neither rises nor sets. It is fixed in one place but it is the rotation of the earth that looks to us as though it is rising and setting. Many are holding on the the scriptures which have have hidden meaning but simple minded people take it on surface value. We have the brain to think and explore but no, they would rather let the brain rot and believe everything that is in the scriptures. But do not worry as all these will change when the real truth is known to them soon.
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