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Hari bol Maitreya, How ya battlin', When's y' plane take off for the holy land? I guess this has thrown a whole notha dimention into your travels.

No, I saw a park fairly close to the actual site in New York, where many are congregating.

Upon thinking of it I started to see like you are describing a lower world of darkness and ashes and some tormented souls as I'm sure all of 'em won't be headed for the same destination. The ruin pictures coming in on TV are rather graphic, very eerie and haunting. Then I'd like to see another world of everfresh life coiling out of the ashes into something like those scenes of the various spirits floating in the movie'What Dreams may Come' all rejoicing and placid above the skyline. Man what are those souls going thru? What a way to exit this world. As you know Kirtan is not limited by time and space, so anyone of us can chant towards that geography. But those that live there could certainly do some wonderful relief work for that troubled environment.

Dear Jaya Radhe, Please forgive me for not giving any input here, but I've been a little numb by the whole horror of it all, I'm truly dumbfounded and mesmerised by the density of consciousness behind this insane carnage. I see there's a candle prayer vigil in the park somewhere. Are there devotees joining that congregation? I'm sure it would speak loud for Lord Chaitanya if some were there. Chanting gently Bhaktivinodes prayers of Love in separation.

"Dear Stonehearted (surely you must have a nicer name than this)," Actually he has a really nice name, he just preferres to ornament it with humility. Notice how he enters 'The heart of Krsna' on cue. Actually I see him as 'Braveheart' for entering this assylum. If you could only hang in The ole loony bin may turn in to the Luna Dyn Audarya Prabhu, Thank you kindly for posting this most essential reminder of humility and honor, it would serve these forums well as the guidelines of proper behavior if only the "fellars on the ship' could adhere to it. Unfortunately at times it's more like one a' those low-jacked aircraft with the lack of regard some have for those on board. Anyway keep it comin' as best you can. Ys das

This is perfect advice Gaurachandra Prabhu.It's kind of like every question Krsna Das Babaji used to be asked he would always answer laughing and chanting KRSNA KRSNA. The answer to everything.Fear leaves the heart that Krsna as Love enters.

Chris if you read Bhagavad Gita, Krsna explains how it is essential to submissively approach a God realized soul or sadhu(saint) who is intimately familiar with the Truth and enquire from them. Because they have seen and experienced the Truth it is within their ability to pass it on to others who sincerely want it and are receptive to receive such revelation. In Gaudiya Vaisnavism the Absolute Truth isn't some vague intangible, impersonal conception, but rather Truth is Krsna Himself. So Krsna can make Himself known thru his beloved saints, and this transmission can take place at the time of initiation when one genuinly receives Hari Nam-the Holy prescence of God from a pure lover of Krsna. It isn't imagination, it is a very real soul to soul affair, the most priceless gift one can ever be given. If in some meagre way we can appreciate this Divine Grace of Guru and Krsna you may then also be able to bestow this beautiful reality to others. I sincerely wish you well in finding such a saint on your Quest for in the heart of such saintly persons you will find everything. Dear JRdd my ears are definately going deaf to a lot of things these days it seems, but I think I'm learning to listen more with the heart for those that speak that language, to compensate for the ears shutdown, it usually translates as care and compassion for others and you seem more than proficient in this diallect. As a matter of fact I've caught much of it from your expression. ys MKd

Ya think they might like to accomodate some Afganis Prabhu I'm sure there are many ready to convert to anything at this point in time. It appears there's a lot of souls playing musical-religions these days, it's definately a ripe field for those prepared to make the sacrifice and give the Gaudiya conception. As much as we might not see eye t eye on a few points it's truly a dream along side some a' the examples proliferating. Anyone feeling at the fag end of life, a little bored or lethargic, like to do a little kirtan in downtown Kabul. Hey Maitreya while youre in India you an Jj could pop up to Delhi for some Gita distribution you'll surely see hordes of potential bhaktas looking for a new homeland on the streets over there I've even seen Afghanis in Vrndavan. Gather some devotees addresses before you go, and distribute the all merciful campaign of Patita Pavan.

Let's see if anyone can relate to this conception of the Name by SSM. Let there be no animosity towards others preceptors. Let us just all try to simply relish the service efforts of all the honorable vaisnavas, who in varying degrees are endeavouring to surrender their lives to the irresistable. The Supreme Goal of Life The next stage is sreyah kairava candrikavitaranam: the holy name bestows upon us the supreme goal of life. After initially doing away with the two negative engagements, our positive engagement begins and ultimately takes us to reality, to the real truth, which is eternal, auspicious, and beautiful. It takes us to that auspiciousness which is above this world of difficulty, and in a general way we achieve the supreme goal, the highest auspiciousness, the greatest good from chanting the holy name of Krsna. If we analyze this scrutinizingly, we find that in this stage, the holy name takes us to an intimate personal relationship with Krsna which includes neutrality, servitude, friendship, and filial affection (santa, dasya, sakhya, and vatsalya rasa). Sreyah covers the grace of Nityananda Prabhu, for it is by His grace that we may be allowed to worship Radha and Krsna in Vrndavana (nitaiyer karuna habe braje radha krsna pabe). The next stage is vidya-vadhu-jivanam. The holy name prepares us for the wholesale surrender to Krsna that is found in conjugal love (madhurya rasa) where the devotees surrender themselves infinitely at the disposal of Krsna. The next stage is anandambudhi-vardhanam. When we come to the proper level while chanting the name of Krsna, we find the transcendental ocean that is above all sorts of experience. The name comes to assert Himself over us according to the degree of our surrender, and when our surrender is complete, we feel a new type of ecstatic joy; we experience an infinite ocean of joy which is not static, but always dynamic. There we find new life and a new type of blissfulness. It never becomes stale or static, but at every moment gives us a taste of the infinite ocean of ecstasy. Complete Self-Purification The last effect is that our entire existence is purified. This kind of enjoyment does not pollute—it purifies. Enjoyment means exploitation. Mundane enjoyment creates a reaction and pollution attacks the enjoyer, but here, because Krsna is the aggressor, the result is purification. All enjoyment that comes from the center, from the autocratic desire of Krsna, purifies us completely. In this verse, the words sarvatma-snapanam mean that all different phases of the self which may be conceived are fully satisfied and purified at once by chanting the holy name of Krsna. And there is another meaning of sarvatma-snapanam. If we praise Krsna congregationally, we will be purified according to our capacity. Both the singer and the audience as well as anyone who comes in connection with the transcendental sound will be purified. Snapanam means "purifying." That vibration purifies everyone and everything that comes in touch with it. So Mahaprabhu says, "Go on with sankirtana, the congregational chanting of the holy name of Krsna." Of course, sankirtana must be genuine, so association with saints is necessary. It is not an empirical attempt. We are attempting to have a connection with the higher, unconditioned realm which can descend to help us here. We must have that connection with higher reality, for that is all-important. The holy name of Krsna is not mere physical sound; it is not lip-deep only, but it has a greater and higher aspect (nama aksara bahiraya bate tabu name kabhu naya). It is all spiritual. We are in the marginal plane of existence, so some higher connection is necessary in order that the wave will descend from that higher realm and come to us and spread its influence outside as well. Wherever it goes, the sankirtana of the holy name of Krsna will produce these sevenfold results. This is the purport of Mahaprabhu's first verse. The first effect is that the holy name cleanses the soul which is attacked by the dirt of desires from the mundane world. By the second effect it gives mukti, liberation, perfect independence from material forces. The third effect brings real fortune: the opening of the soul's treasure. The innate resources of the soul are gradually awakened by the holy name of Krsna. Here, Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu includes the other forms of relationship with the Personal Absolute. In describing the next step. He takes the mood of conjugal devotion, where one is absolutely disposed for Krsna's enjoyment, unconditionally surrendering everything for His maximum pleasure.

Please accept my respectful obeisances Mrs. dasi anudasi. Glad also to hear your input must be that Tricky Mystic again saw me lamenting for the world and re-animated this lifeless one, by your grace. You sound well. How's life in the eternal lane? How's that? Das the Digger downunder.

This is a brief description of the Holy Name of Krsna as realized by Srila Sridhara Maharaj. Let him be victorious in all fortunate souls. Krsna's Mystic Flute-song This has been taught to us by Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, who said, "Properly chant the holy name, the sound representation of absolute sweetness." That sweetness is also to be found in the flute-song of the Lord. The sound of Krsna's flute has the great mystic power of capturing and pleasing everyone and everything. Upon hearing the sound of Krsna's flute, the Yamuna's current is paralyzed. The sweet sound of Krsna's flute attracts the trees, the birds, and the beasts. Everything is astounded by contacting the sweet vibration from Krsna's flute. Sound vibration can work miracles; sound has the highest capturing potency. Sound can make or mar. It can do anything; it has such intrinsic capacity. It comes from the subtlemost plane, beyond the ether. That universal sound is absolute sweetness and goodness. How much power is there—how it can capture us! Like a blade of grass, we may be played by the current of that sweet sound in such a way that we cannot even trace out our own personality. We may lose ourselves there, but we do not die; the soul is eternal. Diving, up and down, we are played by the current of the sweet sound. We are less qualified than a straw, a blade of grass, and the Krsna sound is so big and so sweet that it can play us in any way it likes. We cannot begin to conceive how much power is in the name, the sound which is identical with absolute goodness and sweetness. Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu says, "Don't neglect the sound which is one and the same with Krsna." Absolute sweetness and goodness—everything is there within the holy name. And the holy name is representing itself to us in a very cheap way: nothing is required to purchase it—no money, no physical energy. All these things are unnecessary. What is required? Sincerity. One who simply takes this divine sound sincerely will be so enriched that no one will be able to conceive of so much goodness and development. And anyone may have it very cheaply, but one must chant sincerely with his whole heart. Of course, wholehearted sincerity presupposes going to a proper agent, a saint, and getting the holy name from him. Sri krsna sankirtana is praised by Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, the inaugurator of the sankirtana movement who came as Radha-Govinda combined. His advice is most valuable and necessary to tell us that with a sincere spirit we must come to join this sri krsna sankirtana, the most purifying transcendental sound, which effects liberation, gives all fulfillment, and grants us such a positive attainment that we lose ourselves in the ocean of joy and inconceivable sweetness. This is Sriman Mahaprabhu's grace, and He proclaims, "Let sri krsna sankirtana be expanded into this mortal world, that it may benefit everyone infinitely, for this is the highest and greatest benefit for the whole world. It is all-comprehensive. It releases us from all sorts of troubles, establishing us in the highest position of attainment." And in this present degraded age of Kali, only nama-sankirtana can help us. Of course, nama-sankirtana is beneficial in all ages, but it is especially recommended in Kali-yuga, because in this age all other attempts will be opposed by many forces. Nama-sankirtana cannot be opposed by the troubles and waves of this material world, so one must adopt it. If we exclusively give ourselves to this, we will gain the highest fulfillment of life. There is no necessity of any other campaign, for they are all defective and partial. But the most universal, captivating, and beneficial thing is nama-sankirtana, which takes us to the highest goal. That alone can satisfy everyone. All souls that are now disconnected from Krsna may be helped in this way. No other movement is necessary. Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu tells us, "Exclusively devote yourself to this. It is all-embracing and all-fulfilling. And you can achieve it with the least trouble and least energy. Let it flourish in this Kali-yuga—let it flourish for the welfare of the whole universe, to reestablish all souls in their normal position."

One should try to chant Hare Krsna every moment you can, untill Krsna starts to chant you, then the answers to your following questions will become self evident.I'll try to find a very nice description of the holy names if you would like, give us some moments, in the mean time chant Hare Krsna and be xstatic. Ys

Kanaya in Kali Takes a golden hue Where His flute sings Her Name For one and all But only a few

Dayal Gaura-Nitai!

Talasiga Prabhu, or mate, as you wish, Namaste Where exactly you dancin' on the Great southern shores?

Chris, Greetings and please accept my respects, The only tip I can suggest at present is to always seek devotional company like you are doing now and like you are in here. You sound like a sincere seeker of the truth, so I'm sure the Truth will find you, actually It seems you're already found so go with the heart that brought you here. Sorry if I've just added to any confusion could'nt help but swing on that thread. yours in service dasanudas

When Their sweet Names In our heart's dance That's when we'll be in Their all loving glance! The vision of the seer may bring us near But methinks t'is the hearts'tear that attracts Them here! Maybe mixed with a little Ganga jal and Tulasi Manjari.

I thought those eyes was blind! Eye X A SIZE Won't quite do Only Prema Bhakti Will attract Their Grace upon you.

Here is Vaisnava seva.

Here is Vaisnava seva.

Methinks they want Talibana forest all to emselves!!!!

You be careful you don't start a Jihad you naughty boy. You know there may still be a few a these vigilantes cruisin' the net, huntin' the infidels, not heeding their masters decree, and you have given your whereabouts. In the spirit of true sportsmanship it may be better for them to wear the labels so they know who they've still gotta convert, and Jagat will know who's comin up the garden path. I don't mean to be controversial here but it is a concern, there are boatloads of these guys pouring into Australia thru the backdoor, and it is a little difficult for the kanistas that screen the asylum seekers from the stirrers, who are coming to further their cause in a once peaceful naive population. After reading their discriptions of paradise, they may just think this is it, and those dudes don't hesitate to kill for their turf. It's rather crazy how some people interpret their teachings. I was once commissioned to paint a mural in a restaurant for a Jewish immigrant here who wanted me to paint some naked ladies layed back on couches with a swarm of bees all over them. When I asked what the conection was I was told his conception of this place God directed him to, was 'the promised Land of endless milk and honey.'I took him as one of the wandering tribes. This joint just ain't what it used to be, even tho most aussies take it out on a sports oval, dope is on the increase big time, violence and gang warfare with other agitated immigrants on the increase, kids shooting each other regularly. mind you, I have no problem with a co-operative mix of respecful and greatful newcomers, but a lot of these guys have assimilation complexes or something. Could it be maybe they don't see someone in common? Makes me wonder if there ain't some other agenders cookin'.

15 Creating great tidal waves in the ocean of mercy, splendidly dressed in wonderful saffron garments as glorious as the sunrise, and glowing with the nectar of pure love of Krsna, may the wonderful and handsome moon of Lord Caitanya, which has risen from the milk ocean of Saci's womb, enter the sky of your heart. 16 Chanting the Hare Krsna maha-mantra, His own holy names which bring auspiciousness to the world, His hand trembling with love as He touches the knotted string about His waist to count the number of names, His face bathed in tears as He comes and goes, eager to see His own form of Lord Jagannatha, and bringing great delight to the eyes of all, may the golden form of Lord Hari protect you all. 17 Uprooting the dense darkness in the hearts of the entire world, making the nectar ocean of the bliss of pure love of Krsna overflow its shores without limit, and cooling this universe tormented by the threefold miseries, may the splendid moonlight of the moon of Lord Caitanyacandra eternally shine within your hearts. madhuram madhuram vapur asya vibhar madhuran madhuram vadhuram madhuram madhu gandhi mridu smitam etad aho madhuram,madhuram madhuram madhuram Too much sweet. G'day mate, please kindly accept my pranams Vishal Prabhu, how's your family? Yes if we are seriously accepting Mahaprabhu as The Lord of Lords it is really quite a spellbinding thought to conceive that somehow we've been in Gods own bedroom. A rather intoxicating revelation if we actually catch it, it behooves me how we can maintain our conscious state in that intense atmosphere, between those walls. My mind is just bedazzled at the thought. Gaura hari Gaura Hari.

Sorry for the duel answers I was in the back room typing and didn't see Audarya Prabhus answer to you before i posted.

Patience is a virtue Rakesh, especially on the internet.I thought someone else would have answered your question, but seeing as no one is, I'll try to.we would'nt want to see you going away frustrated. To start with Chakra and VNN are two Vaisnava websites broadcasting the message of Krsna Consciousness as given by Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Due to different spiritual pursuasions they tend to clash on various points of philosophy. VNN I could safely say are followers of Narayan Maharaj who is one branch of the tree of Gaudiya Vaisnavism. Cakra on the other hand only accept Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupad as their spiritual preceptor. Of course neither concede the others validity which is the cause of much contention. Some on this forum have various affiliations an sympathies to these lines. I can't speak for everyone here but I think you'll find most posting here have much background in common, as many of us came to KC thru the Grace Of Srila A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami but in coming into contact with other acharayas conceptions of Divinity in the line of Caitanya Mahaprabhu we are giving a variety of perspectives, which altho at times appears to be a little disturbing should be seen as healthy, considering the endless streams of nectarean conclusions emanating from Swayam Bhagavan. Some have difficulty for various reasons accomodating others point of view, while others endeavour to. Most of us here if you follow regularly are stationed all around the world, Like Maitreya is in California, Peter (Valaya) and Jagat in different parts of Canada, I am in Australia etc. Altho most of us have some devotional association in their respective environments, I have never met most on the forums personally and live a life divorced from spiritual institutions as you will find most others do. This is the mainstay of our devotional Sanga. As grihastas we no doubt have various sadhanas according to our devotional conections- Initiations etc. as regarding our daily practice within our own homes. Some of us have families children etc. while others don't. It's no doubt a wonderful step for you in the right direction to practise spiritual life as this will lead eventually to a life of inner fullfillment and lasting satisfaction. And it gives us all great joy to see anyone take to the path of Krsna Consciousness. If you can find encouraging Vaisnava association on this path it will surely be an inestimatable great fortune to your eternal and present wellfare. I wish you all the very best. I haven't the time at present to elaborate further but hope this may have answered some of your question. Affectionately Ys dasanudas