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  1. That is an urban legend my friend. Check out http://www.snopes.com/horrors/madmen/pinprick.asp : Origins: The <table align="left" border="0" cellpadding="8"><tbody><tr><td> </td></tr></tbody></table> important news first — this isn't happening. In the seven years we've been tracking this legend since its first appearance, no AIDS-laden needle attacks on moviegoers have been reported in Bombay, Hawaii, Dallas, Paris, or anywhere else in the world. We know of only two related incidents, neither of which proved to involve any deliberate intent to infect an innocent victim with HIV: A Louisiana man sat on a needle in a theater in Baton Rouge in December, 1996, and sued the facility over the incident, but there was no note welcoming him to the world of AIDS or any indication of his contracting any infection. An <nobr>October 2005</nobr> report from Athens, Georgia, involved a woman who said she sat upon a needle that had been duct-taped to a movie theater seat, but since then she also has evidenced no symptoms of HIV infection. (In the latter case, although the syringe contained a substance that appeared to be dried blood, it was too small a sample for police to be able to determine what it was or whether it carried a disease.) One of the many versions of this warning claims to be one circulated by the Dallas Police Department. Not only didn't that institution originate the warning, but since its appearance officers there have been kept busy fielding inquiries about this hoax: "It's all false," said <nobr>Sgt. Jim</nobr> Chandler, a Dallas police spokesman. "This has not happened, and we would ask people to stop forwarding this message to their friends because it's creating situations where police departments and emergency personnel are having to respond to inquiries to a situation that has not happened." What we have here is an urban legend trading on our fears of catching AIDS. Cautionary tales about hapless bystanders contracting an infectious disease became all the rage in the 1990s. Another such scare has to do with addicts leaving HIV-contaminated needles in the coin returns of pay phones. See our <nobr>"Slots of Fun"</nobr> page for more about this related legend. This particular pin prick story is a version of the better known "AIDS Mary" legend. (In <nobr>"AIDS Mary,"</nobr> the "Welcome to the world of AIDS" communication is typically imparted either through a gift emblazoned with that message being left for the victim or found scrawled in lipstick on the bathroom mirror.) AIDS Mary has been scaring the bejeebers out of us at least since the early 1980s. The pin prick legend, however, isn't all that new either, with the HIV version of it having its roots in an 1989 incident in <nobr>New York</nobr> City. The legend in its current incarnation (teenage girls in darkened theaters jabbed with needles) dates back to a much older <nobr>non-HIV</nobr> story, one rampant in the New Orleans area in the 1930s. Toothsome young girls were told to beware of Needle Men. Young ladies were strictly instructed to sit at the end of the aisle in moviehouses, not in the middle, lest they attract the attention of white slavers working in pairs who would sit down beside the girl, one on each side, inject her with morphine, and carry her out of the theatre and into a life of shame. The New Orleans Needle Men rumor circulated in another form besides the "white slavers after young girls" — others feared these syringe-armed fiends were in fact medical students harvesting cadavers for dissection. Women jabbed by them would quickly succumb to the poison contained in those needles, with their lifeless bodies soon afterwards delivered to a local teaching hospital. Such deadly attacks were said to take place in theaters, but also on the street. Though "Needle Man" scares rippled through New Orleans at various times in the 1920s and 1930s, each time sending women into hysterics, there was never any credible reason to believe such men existed. Women weren't disappearing at a furious rate, nor were gals who'd fallen into lives of prostitution afterwards asserting they'd been overcome via injection and abducted. A slightly different yet inexplicably more frightening version of the pin prick legend began circulating in the early spring of 1998. According to it, young people partying in clubs or at raves run the risk of being jabbed with an HIV-loaded needle and then afterwards finding a "Welcome to reality — you now have AIDS" message stuffed into a pocket or affixed to them by way of a sticker. This warning has so far circulated in Philadelphia, <nobr>New York</nobr> City, <nobr>San Diego,</nobr> Oakland, Seattle, Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal, Mexico, Australia, Ecuador, and Germany, each time passed along as something that had already happened to others locally: [Collected on the Internet, 1998] Do you any of you guys like to go clubbing? Well you might want to think twice after this message. Just in case you don't already know, there is a certain group of people with stickers that say "Welcome to our world." Once this sticker is stuck on you, you contract the AIDS virus because it is filled with tiny needles carrying the infected blood. This has been happening at many dance clubs (even DV8 and Beatbox) and raves. Being cautious is not enough because the person just chooses anyone, and I mean anyone, as his/her victim. So you could just be dancing the night away and not even realize the sticker had been stuck on you. It sounds too demented to be true, but it's the truth. In fact my sister's friend knows someone who just recently contracted the virus in this manner. The world isn't safe anymore. Please pass this on to everyone and anyone you know. Wherever this rumor goes, it has a significant impact on the local bar scene. In August 1998 one popular Toronto nightclub estimated its business to be down by 50%. In March 1998 a popular dance club in <nobr>San Diego</nobr> was similarly affected when the story swept through there. People hear this story and stay away in droves. Police in each of these cities have investigated the rumors and found nothing. The clubs named in the rumors similarly report they know nothing of any attacks. Okay, so this isn't happening in movie houses, at popular dance clubs or at raves. Where did this HIV-loaded needle story come from? Keep in mind that although there have at various times been random attacks with needles, none have resulted in infection being passed to victims. That part is myth. Now for the truth of it: For a few weeks in the fall of 1989, a group of Black teenagers (mostly girls) scared the pants off the denizens of New York City by running about jabbing pins into the necks of <nobr>41 random</nobr> white females. Media coverage escalated the general public's fears as it was repeatedly stated the pins were tainted with AIDS. Within a week the kids responsible were found and arrested, and it was at that time police discovered there was no basis to the reports of the AIDS virus being part of these attacks. The hooligans responsible admitted it was just a fun game to them, run up to a white woman, stick her with a pin, see her reaction, then run off. Possibly inspired by the 1989 panic in New York City, for three weeks in 1990 a Black man terrorized white and hispanic women in that city by hitting them in the legs and buttocks with dart-like missiles fired from a homemade blowgun. More than <nobr>50 women</nobr> were hit in this fashion before the man responsible was caught. When asked why the attacks, the assailant made a rambling statement to the effect that short skirts were immoral and "people from the islands shoot women who wear provocative clothing with darts to punish them <nobr>. . .</nobr> they also throw them sometimes into volcanos." (Good thing this nut didn't live in <nobr>Las Vegas,</nobr> else the volcano at the Mirage would have been standing room only.) Kids have since gotten the idea this is a cool game to play. In 1995 a 13-year-old boy brought a hypodermic syringe to Mount Pleasant Area Secondary School (Pennsylvania) and proceeded to jab <nobr>28 classmates</nobr> with it. The boy was charged with aggravated assault, simple assault, reckless endangerment and possession of a weapon on school property and was turned over to juvenile authorities pending a hearing. In 1997 two teenage lads at Exeter-West Greenwich (Rhode Island) jabbed <nobr>32 other</nobr> students with a medical lancet. Meant to be a "playful prank" (stabbing someone with anything isn't considered playful in my book), the state Health Department took the matter very seriously, ordering blood tests and vaccinations against <nobr>Hepatitis B</nobr> for all the victims. The boys responsible were suspended and criminal charges were brought against them. Earlier in 1997, <nobr>18 Lecanto</nobr> Middle School (Florida) pupils were attacked by five schoolmates wielding lancets. The perpetrators were suspended for ten days and medical tests were run on their victims. Again, it was only a meanspirited prank — no viruses were communicated in the attacks. Robberies have been carried out by syringe-wielding robbers who claim to be armed with the AIDS virus and willing to stick anyone who gets in their way with the infected needle. It has to be stressed that though various robbers and muggers have claimed to have been so armed, thus far this has never proved out to be anything more than an empty threat. All syringes so employed have tested out as perfectly clean. Even so, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that claiming to be armed with an AIDS-tainted needle would generate a lot of cooperation from the people you're trying to rob. Expect to see this "weapon" become even more common as time marches on. It's not all sweetness and light, however. On <nobr>20 May</nobr> 1999, WBFF/WNUV of Baltimore, Maryland, reported on a midday attack upon an unnamed Towson, Maryland, woman. She had been checking her oil at a gas station when she was approached by a man who asked her for money. The victim described what happened next: I said I didn't have any money. I said I only had a dollar. He said that would do. He put one arm around me and kissed my cheek, he put another arm around me and stabbed me with a needle, and said welcome to reality you have HIV. The victim's description led police to a panhandler known to frequent the area. He was found with a syringe on him. (Click here to read WBFF's report about this incident.) In January 2000, the attacker earned a three-year prison sentence for his crime. The victim is not HIV-positive. There has been at least one verified HIV-positive syringe attack of the non-random variety. It happened in Australia in 1990, with the victim being a prison guard at Sydney's Long Bay Jail. Gary Pearce opened a security gate for an inmate known to be HIV-positive and in doing so turned his back for a second. He felt a jab in his buttock. He turned to knock a blood-filled syringe away just as the inmate, Graham Farlow, shouted "AIDS" and ran off. Pearce rushed to a nearby office where the wound was sterilised. To no avail however. Despite the <nobr>1-in-200</nobr> chance that a stick injury from an HIV-infected needle would produce a positive result, he tested HIV positive two months after the attack. Pearce died on <nobr>30 August</nobr> 1997 of an AIDS-related illness. Farlow had died in 1991. This attack plus a spate of supposedly HIV-loaded needle robberies (the robberies at needlepoint were real, but the HIV part was never proved), prompted the Australian government to introduce legislation covering such offenses. Since the victim didn't die within a year and a day of the pricking, the attacker couldn't be charged with murder under the old laws. That changed in 1990. Now robbers using syringes filled with AIDS-infected blood as weapons face up to <nobr>25 years</nobr> in jail in New South Wales state. British police would like to have something a lot closer to what the Australian legal system provides for. In 1994 they unsuccessfully called for a crackdown on HIV-loaded needle threats, claiming the harm done to victims necessitated both harsher penalties than currently legally available and voicing the need to be able to charge someone in possession of a syringe with carrying an offensive weapon. At present, the psychological damage caused by the threat to inject someone with an HIV-infected syringe is classed in Britain as actual bodily harm, and an attacker can be charged with grievous bodily harm if an injury is sustained. Is that really enough, or are the British police right that this doesn't go far enough? The AIDS pinprick legend's popularity stems from our fear of contracting AIDS. Even if we take pains to avoid engaging in high risk activities or strive to do so in as safe a fashion as possible, we're all too aware we're still vulnerable, and this legend speaks to that awareness. Though in the early days of this disease, the average citizen felt perfectly safe from its ravages, AIDS is now no longer perceived as something only other people will catch. It's now seen as a danger to all of us. This sense of being at risk, coupled with ongoing fears of the madmen who walk among us, has given birth to this bit of scarelore. Credibility is further supplied by news stories about kids jokingly stabbing classmates with needles and robbers threatening victims with "loaded" syringes. Mix a bit of truth into an existing bit of scarelore, and it becomes powerful medicine indeed. The typical college girl victim is a metaphor for us. By casting the one pinpricked as one of tender years, the undeserving nature of the victim is underscored. She's seen as both young and untouched by the world, therefore completely undeserving of this terrible fate. (As, by implication, are we.) Her gender also comes into play as "college girl" is a shortform in the world of urban legends for sexual and social innocence. Her fatal infection is made to appear doubly tragic in that it doesn't seem to us, the audience, she would otherwise have come in contact with this illness. Indeed, no more "innocent" a mythical victim could be created. She's a lot like us, in other words. The terrifying aspect of this bit of scarelore is we see ourselves in her place. Barbara "your place or mine?" Mikkelson Additional information: <table cellspacing="10"><tbody><tr> <td> </td> <td>Are these stories true? (Centers for Disease Control)</td> </tr></tbody></table> Last updated: 9 March 2006 <!-- 3/1/2001: Added Montreal version 6 August 2002: Added Melbourne version 12 February 2003: Added info about "needle men" 5 October 2005: Added info about Athens, GA, attack 1 November 2005: Needle in Athens contained blood 9 March 2006: updated Athens case -->
  2. The Bhaktivedanta Memorial Library has just acquired a unique piece of history: A photograph of Srila Narayana Maharaja officiating at the samadhi ceremony of His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada. An abhiseka liquid is being poured over the head of the murti of Srila Prabhupada, which is right next to and immediately in front of the face of Srila Narayana Maharaja. The photographer is unknown, and we received this from Yasoda Priya didi via Anantacarya das. http://bvml.org/ACBSP/samadhi_photo.html
  3. That email address is no longer active, but if anyone wants Gmail, let me know at aog9mm@
  4. Files are in Real Audio format, I just converted and added the following to mp3: Srila Prabhupada chants the Hare Krishna Maha Mantra | [also in mp3] Srila Prabhupada explains the Hare Krishna Maha Mantra | [also in mp3] Srila Prabhupada explains the Hare Krishna Maha Mantra in Hindi (Bombay) | [also in mp3] Srila Prabhupada chants one round of Hare Krishna Japa | [also in mp3]
  5. <center>Madhavi-Tithi: The Mother Of Prema Bhakti </center> <center>[Excerpted from Srila Bhaktivedanta Narayana Maharaja's "Nectar Sprinkles on Australia"] </center> Today is Ekadasi vrata. I think that most of you have observed it. To observe Ekadasi fully, like Ambarisa Maharaja, is very rare. He lived in Satya-yuga, and he was so strong that he could have fasted without sleep, standing on one leg, without even taking water or air. In Kali-yuga we are neither strong nor advanced; but we are fortunate. Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu has explained that on Ekadasi, if we are hungry we may take some fruit juice, or milk. We should not eat continually. It is not that we drink a litre of one type of juice, and half an hour later another type of juice, and again within half an hour we take boiled potatoes and other vegetables, then a large drink of water, half a kilo of paneer with sugar, and another half litre of rubari. We should eat only as much as is needed to allay sleep and idleness. Remaining awake day and night, we should spend Ekadasi chanting and remembering Sri Krsna, as did Ambarisa Maharaja. He was the emperor of the whole world, a householder, and he was externally entangled in material attachments. Durvasa Muni was a brahmana and a realized yogi. He could curse someone to die, and also bring a dead man back to life. He was a brahmarsi, a brahmavadi with great powers. He thought: "I am born in a brahminical family and am in the dynasty of Sankara. Therefore I am a manifestation of Sankara. I am the son of Atri and Anasuya, who are highly learned uttama Vaisnavas. My parents gave so many teachings to Rama, and Sita-devi who is Laksmi Herself, when They both visited my parent's cottage. I am the greatest man in this world, and I am the most powerful." However, Durvasa Muni never observed Ekadasi. In Madhuvana, Mathura, Ambarisa Maharaja observed Mahadvadasi, neither drinking water nor sleeping. He absorbed himself day and night in chanting, remembering, serving the Deities, and praying. The next day, after worshipping Krsna, when he was ready to break his fast, Durvasa Muni arrived at his palace. Durvasa was like a god, a realized brahmavadi, but he had not observed Ekadasi. Ambarisa Maharaja requested him to break Ekadasi, by taking Mahadvadasi parana, after which he himself would honor prasada. Durvasa Muni replied, "Yes, but first I will take bath nearby, in the Yamuna River. I won't be very long." He took so much time, however, that only a few minutes were left before the auspicious time for breaking Ekadasi would be over. Ambarisa Maharaja wondered what to do. "A brahmana rsi, a siddha maha yogi, has come to my door. He is not an ordinary person and I should first respect him by offering him mahaprasada before I myself take it. Otherwise I will be disobeying Indian culture, and I may possibly go to hell. On the other hand, I must observe my Ekadasi vrata, which is not a worldly activity. It is transcendental, and if I fail to observe it by not taking mahaprasada at the proper time, I may lose my bhakti. Should I honor this brahmana, or honor bhakti?" After careful consideration he chose to honor bhakti. "I cannot act against bhakti in any way. Even if I lose some material prosperity or go to hell, I will not disrespect Ekadasi. I will break it within the prescribed time." He then drank a drop of water that had been used in the worship of Sri Krsna (caranamrta). If one observes Ekadasi without taking juice or water, he can break the fast by taking caranamrta. But if water, fruit, juice, milk or vegetables have been taken, one will have to break it by taking some grain; otherwise his Ekadasi is not complete. Ambarisa Maharaja thought, "I have not taken even water during my observance of Ekadasi, so I can take caranamrta. In this way, because I will not have taken any grains, I will also be respecting the brahmana." After taking a drop of caranamrta Durvasa Muni returned. "I know you. You are only a so-called bhakta. I am a siddha brahmana. You know my parentage. You know of my great powers, and yet you have dared to dishonor me. I will immediately burn you to ashes." He took one jata (dreadlock) from his hair, dashed it to the ground, and ordered it to become a burning fire. The fire demon then ran towards Ambarisa Maharaja in an attempt to burn him to ashes. At that moment the Sudarsana cakra appeared. Krsna had ordered His cakra to always protect the Vaisnavas, persons who have taken shelter of Him; so Sudarsana burned the fiery demon to ashes and then moved toward Durvasa Rsi, who fled, taking his legs on his head 1, and cried, "Save me! Save me! Save me!" When the fire demon approached Ambarisa Maharaja, the king chanted and was fearless. He thought, "Whether I live or die depends on Krsna." He depended fully on Krsna, and Sudarsana cakra saved him. Durvasa Muni, however, though a powerful brahmana and realized yogi, feared death and fled. He tried first to take shelter of his father, Lord Siva; but seeing him approach, Lord Siva called, "Go from here! You are in this predicament because you have dishonored a Vaisnava. I know how influential Vaisnavas are, and I fear offending them. If I give you shelter, Sudarsana will also attack me." Durvasa Muni then went to Lord Brahma, who also refused to help him. After this he approached Lord Visnu and prayed, "O Visnu! O Visnu! Save me from Your weapon. I am taking shelter of You." Lord Visnu said, "I am powerless to protect you. I have no freedom. I am bound to My bhaktas. They have given their hearts to Me, and I have given Mine to them. I am in no way independent of My devotees." sri bhagavan uvaca aham bhakta-paradhino hy asvatantra iva dvija sadhubhir grasta-hrdayo bhaktair bhakta jana-priyah "The Supreme Personality of Godhead said to the brahmana: I am completely under the control of My devotees. Indeed, I am not at all independent. Because My devotees are completely devoid of material desires, I sit only within the cores of their hearts. What to speak of My devotee, even those who are devotees of My devotee are very dear to Me." [bhag. 9.4.63] If someone gets a thorn in his foot it cannot be removed from his head. It must be removed from his foot. So Lord Visnu is saying, "The Vaisnavas are everything to Me. It is My vow to protect them. If you want to be saved, you must go to Ambarisa Maharaja. Do not see him as a family man or a king. He is not an ordinary person, he is My dear devotee. Offer him your obeisances. He is bhakta jana priya. Worldly persons tend to think, 'I am so learned, rich, and powerful. These bogus Vaisnavas are useless and only chant Hare Krsna.' But you, Durvasa, should become a sincere Vaisnava. Then Krsna will protect you and bestow upon you Krsna-prema." Ever since Durvasa Muni had begun fleeing from the Lord's weapon one year earlier, Ambarisa Maharaja had not eaten anything. When Durvasa Rsi finally came before Ambarisa Maharaja, the king apologized to him with great humility. "I am nothing-not even a devotee. I have disobeyed and dishonored you by breaking my fast." Durvasa Muni fell flat at the lotus feet of Ambarisa Maharaja, who then embraced him. Ambarisa Maharaja asked him to be merciful and honor mahaprasada. Durvasa replied, "Please save me from the Sudarsana cakra. His heat is burning me." Ambarisa then prayed, "O Prabhu, O Lord, if I have ever performed devotional service to Krsna then please save this brahmana." No sooner were these words spoken then the Sudarsana cakra became cool and returned to Lord Visnu. Durvasa then expressed his new realization that bhaktas are more powerful than Krsna Himself. "Krsna has given all of His power to the Vaisnavas. But they hide this and cheat others, presenting themselves as fallen persons. Trnad api sunicena. Although they are powerful, they are also dina hina (meek), being both generous and polite." Durvasa Rsi then gladly took mahaprasada, after which Ambarisa Maharaja also honored prasada along with his whole family. So be like that, humble, with a strong faith in devotional service to Krsna. We can give our head, life and soul to observe Ekadasi. Ekadasi is the mother of prema-bhakti and she will protect us. Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura has written: madhava tithi bhakti janani jatane palana kori. Ekadasi is madhava-tithi. Holy days like Ekadasi are bhakti janani, the mother of prema-bhakti. We should try to follow it as purely as possible, not eating and drinking many times throughout the day. If possible, observe it without even drinking water (nirjala), or take a little prasada once in the day if this is not possible. Many old people, who are lean and thin, can observe nirjala Ekadasi; so why not those of you who are young and strong? You should try to observe it like this. However, if by such fasting your head spins and you go to sleep, then what is the use? Try to remember Krsna, associate with Vaisnavas, read sastra and offer prayers day and night, such as: he krsna karuna sindhu dina bandho jagat pate gopesa gopika kanta radha kanta namo 'stu te. Observing Ekadasi gives even more spiritual power than brahma-jnana and brahma-yoga-samadhi. <hr width="50%"> Footnotes 1 "Taking his legs on his head" is a Hindi expression to illustrate one who flees at lightning speed. Nectar Sprinkles on Australia Madhav-tithi: Mother of Prema Bhakti
  6. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- OLF/Joseph Fedorowsky <....@oxfordlaw.com> Mar 15, 2006 10:35 PM Submission - "Havoc and Distortion" ......com </pre> Havoc And Distortion </pre> By Gupta das Los Angeles, CA Take careful note because here it is for all to see, the corner stone rationale plainly admitted in an article entitled "Faithful To Srila Prabhupada's Words" posted on March 11, 2006, on chakra.org by Jayadvaita Swami, the architect and editor-in-chief of the so-called "revised and enlarged" editions: " . . . closer fidelity to Srila Prabhupada's original words." EXTREME CAUTION: DO NOT BE MISLED BY Jayadvaita Swami's UNACCEPTABLE MISUSE AND TWISTING OF THESE EMOTIONALLY CHARGED TRIGGER WORDS! Essentially, Jayadvaita Swami's assertion is that post disappearance editing (in blatant violation of both Srila Prabhupada's direct instructions and the spiritual principle of arsa-prayoga) is IMPLICITLY AUTHORIZED because, IN JAYADVAITA SWAMI'S EYES, the 10,000 year editorial rewrite campaign he launched brings the ALREADY PUBLISHED text closer to arbitrarily selected words which appear in a so-called manuscript - EVEN THOUGH THE AUTHOR HIMSELF DID NOT WANT THE SO-CALLED MANUSCRIPT PUBLISHED AND, IN FACT, THE AUTHOR DID NOT PUBLISH THE SO-CALLED MANUSCRIPT! Just IMAGINE the havoc which would be created were this SERIOUSLY DISTORTED RATIONALE applied to every author's ALREADY PUBLISHED WORK by some editor (slash wannabe writer) after the author's demise! No one would ever know what an author actually wanted presented as his final product. The logical extension of this SERIOUSLY DISTORTED RATIONALE would be for the BBT to RECALL EACH AND EVERY Bhagavad-Gita As It Is ever printed and then substitute the SO-CALLED MANUSCRIPT in it's place. If the BBT is not prepared to do that, then Jayadvaita Swami and his merry band of editorial staff replicates should pen their OWN books and STOP CHANGING SRILA PRABHUPADA'S BOOKS! Note also that with regard to the so-called manuscript - which in actuality is a series of tattered, typed pages and editorial notes made over different periods of time - there is no documentation available to authenticate who transcribed what, who made the editorial notes, on what basis changes were made or not made, or even to verify exactly when those notes were made. This is the flimsy evidence trail that Jayadvaita Swami attempts to use to MANUFACTURE AUTHORITY WHICH DOES NOT EXIST to change Srila Prabhupada's authorized, approved and ALREADY PUBLISHED books under the GUISE of being "faithful to Srila Prabhupada's words." Srila Prabhupada had practically every verse and purport read aloud from the AUTHORIZED, APPROVED AND PUBLISHED 1972 Bhagavad-gita As It Is during class - yet NEVER ONCE asked Jayadvaita Swami to dig up and SUBSTITUTE some draft version of variously typed pages (the so-called manuscript that Jayadvaita Swami relies on) in place and stead of the AUTHORIZED AND APPROVED PUBLISHED EDITION! It is utterly inane to continue to second guess and insult Srila Prabhupada on this point, especially considering that Srila Prabhupada's direct and unequivocal INSTRUCTION was specifically NOT to change even ONE word of his beloved Bhagavad-gita As It Is! Just what part of "AS IT IS" does Jayadvaita Swami not understand? Moreover, I highly doubt that there are any actual voice recordings of Srila Prabhupada dictating the words which appear in one version or another of the so-called manuscript - nor any oral recording that correspond to these galley proofs and editorial notes. Of course, even if there were, that would not change the essential core point that Srila Prabhupada AUTHORIZED AND APPROVED THE PUBLISHED VERSION – NOT THE MANUSCRIPT, and, that there is ABSOLUTELY NO AUTHORITY TO MAKE POST DISAPPEARANCE CHANGES. The editorial cottage industry which Jayadvaita Swami invented and has expanded for the past three decades is based on smoke and mirrors, and has only served to creat havoc and distortion. This must stop. See, A Time For Substance, Not Fluff posted on http://www.adi-vani.org/articles.php?articleId=23. I will also note that this SEVERE DISTORTION of Srila Prabhupada's unequivocal instructions NOT TO CHANGE HIS BOOKS is orchestrated by the same person, Jayadvaita Swami, who officially denied the very existence of Srila Prabhupada heart - the Bhaktivedanta Book Trust - in the 1997/1998 California trust litigation. As you may recall, that litigation resulted in revalidation of the BBT as a trust along with a license to publish the original books begrudgingly issued to Krishna Books Inc. In his unrelenting attack on Srila Prabhupada's adi-vani, Jayadvaita Swami - as a Trustee of the same BBT that he argued in 1997/1998 never existed or in the alternative was legally defunct - continues to take a position in DIRECT CONFLICT with the Settlor of the BBT, Srila Prabhupada, who SPECIFICALLY SAID NOT TO CHANGE HIS BOOKS. Clearly, Jayadvaita Swami exhibits a SERIOUS CONFLICT between his loyalties to himself as the editor-in-chief of the post-disappearance revised edition, on the one hand, and his overarching fiduciary duty as a trustee of the charitable trust formed by the original author for his original works, on the other. Should Jayadvaita Swami sincerely desire to be "FAITHFUL TO SRILA PRABHUPADA'S WORDS" as he publicly represents, then he needs to seriously study and act on THESE words: "Therefore we are presenting Bhagavad-gita as it is. No change. Other they are interpreting in their own way. That is not Bhagavad-gita. That is something else. In the words of God there is no question of changing. You cannot change. As soon as you make a change, immediately it is material; it has nothing to do with spiritual world." - Srila Prabhupada in a Room Conversation on August 5, 1976. --</pre>
  7. <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr valign="top"><td colspan="4"> </td></tr><tr valign="top"> <td align="right"> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td valign="top" width="20"></td> <td rowspan="3" valign="top" width="150"></td> <td style="width: 13px;"></td> <td colspan="2" valign="top">Bhagavad-gita As It Is, Pocket Edition By His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada </td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top" width="20"> </td> <td style="width: 13px;"> </td> <td valign="top"> The largest-selling edition of the Gita in the Western world, Bhagavad-gita As It Is is more than a book. It is alive with knowledge and devotion; thus it has the power to change your life for the better. More...</td> <td align="right" valign="bottom">Price: $9.95 </td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top" width="20"> </td> <td style="width: 13px;"> </td> <td valign="top"> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"></td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td> </tr><tr valign="top"><td colspan="4"> </td></tr></tbody></table>Krishna.com. I buy them by the box, they make really fine gifts.
  8. Newest addition to the Bhaktivedanta Memorial Library Audio Room: Srila A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada: Gaura-Purnima Lecture: Srimad-Bhagavatam 7.9.37 Mayapur on 16 March 1976 [ .rm | 22:58 | 2.8 MBs]
  9. Here is a true copy of the Constitution signed by His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada in 1966: CONSTITUTION OF ASSOCIATION 1. The name of the society is the International Society for Krishna- Consciousness. 2. The headquarters of the Soceity are located at Radhakrishna Temple, 26 Second Avenue, New York City, 10003, USA. 3. The objectives for which the Society is being established are: (A) To educate the greater human society in the techniques for spiritual life as the basis for a balanced psychic and biological development, and thereby achieve for the first time in human society a real peace and unity among the contending forces in the world today. (B) To propagate the Sense of Godhead, the all attractive Personality of primal and eternal Form, as He Himself revealed in His own words in the Bhagavad-gita, The Holy Scripture of the Lord Sri Krishna, the Godhead. © To bring together individuals in a Society, regardless of national- ity and irrespective of creed or caste, in order to develop a nearness to the Godhead and thereby the idea that within the members and humanity-at-large there is an infinitesmal soul-spirit that is part and parcel in quality with the Godhead, the Supreme Soul. (D) To encourage the teachings of Lord Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu who demonstrated practically the transcendental process of approaching the absolute Personality of Godhead by His acts of congregational chanting of the holy name of God, a process known as Samkirtan. (E) To prove by active work and preaching that Lord Sri Krishna is the only enjoyer of all the outcomes of individual and collective sacrifice, penance, meditation, arts, culture, sciences, because He is the Supreme Proprietor of the whole universe, eternally apart of Him eveyone knows Him as a friend. Real peace can be attained when this is realized, in fact. (F) To assist whenever and wherever possible in the buidling of a social structure on the real foundation of spiritual progress and es- tablishment of peace and unity between men throughout the world. (G) to attempt to save men individually from the chain of victimization the ongoing trend in modern civilization operates by, in the name of ideologies of false sentiment, so that man may again be a free soul, to act and live freely with spiritual vision. This is possible by individual spiritual initiation, Diksha, when a man can see everything in Godhead and Godhead in everything. (H) To further toward realization this highest truth as revealed by Lord Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu and the six Goswamins headed by Srila Rupa and Santana Goswamins. (I) To have for its objective amongst the others four principles which the Goswamins had in view. They are the following: 1. To erect a holy place of transcendental pastimes as well as a place where members of the Lord Sri Krishna can flourish. 2. To propagate all over the world in the form of missionaries the process of devotion, the transcendental service to the Godhead, and to make known that this devotional service is the main function of the human being. 3. In order to accomplish this, to adopt proselytizing methods of peaceful means and to establish a broader society of association for all members, including scholars and admirers, to engage in this service as put forth in the Srimad Bhagwatam. 4. To install, wherever it is possible, the worship and temple of Radhakrishna and that of Sri Chaitanya, and to give facility to everyone to become trained in the modes of Archan or preparatory principles of devotional service. (J) To introduce to the members of the Society and humanity-at-large a simpler and more natural purpose in life by means suitable to the particular place and time, and as enjoined in the Bhagavad Gita. (K) To organize educational programs, such as classes and lecture tours, and to institute services, such as mailing, for the benefit of the members of the Society and humanity-at-large. (L) To publish periodicals, books and/or pamphlets in all important languages in order to reach human society and give an oportunity to same to communicate with the Society. (M) To invoke the quality of goodness particularly in every member of the Society, individually by the process of Diksha and by establishing one in the status of a Brahmin (good and intelligent man) on the basis of truthfulness, knowledge and faith in the transcendental service of the Lord. (N) Among the secondary objectives of the Society, it shall undertake the following activities: 1. To revive the scientific system of social orders of classification based on intellligence, martial spirit, productivity and commmon assis- tance, generally known as the four castes with reference to quality and worth for the common cause of world society. 2. To discharge as a matter of coures the vitiated system of supremacy of one man over another by false prestige of birthright or vested interests. (*Note from rand0M aXiS: Please don't misunderstand "2." The New Webster's Dictionary defines discharge - to unload, to discharge cargo,to absolve, free oneself from, to release (am arrow or bullet) to rid of an electrical charge, to dismiss etc. . . . vitiated- spoiled ., made defective, corrupted (morals or taste), invalidated or made wholly or partly ineffective.) 3. To popularize the vegetable-grain diet under apporved methods in order that full value of protein, carbohydrate, fat and vitamin benefit may be derived therefrom. 4. To discourage intoxication or addicting habits of all descriptions and dimensions and to expose such persons thus affliced to approved methods of spiritual realization. This document is signed by: A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Acharya Raymond Marais Michael A Grant Robet Lefkowitz James S. Greene
  10. "It is a clash between those who treat women like beasts, and those who treat them like human beings."
  11. Sorry, I forgot to include it. Here it is: Psychologist to cleric: Muslims are barbaric Arab-American psychologist makes explosive TV appearance on Al-Jazeera, tells cleric: 'Clash is between those who treat woman like beasts and those who treat them like human beings' by Yaakov Lappin
  12. Psychologist to Cleric: Muslims are Barbaric <small> March 13, 2006 | Yaakov Lappin</small> Arab-American psychologist makes explosive TV appearance on Al-Jazeera, tells cleric: 'Clash is between those who treat woman like beasts and those who treat them like human beings' An Arab-American psychologist, Wafa Sultan, has appeared live on the Al-Jazeera Arab satellite network, where she confronted an Egyptian Islamic cleric, and declared that "the clash we are witnessing around the world… is a clash between a mentality that belongs to the Middle Ages and another mentality that belongs to the 21st century." The February TV appearance, which has been widely circulated around the internet, was made available by the Arabic translation service MEMRI. "The clash we are witnessing around the world is not a clash of religions, or a clash of civilizations," said Sultan. "It is a clash between civilization and backwardness, between the civilized and the primitive, between barbarity and rationality. It is a clash between freedom and oppression, between democracy and dictatorship. It is a clash between human rights, on the one hand, and the violation of these rights, on other hand. It is a clash between those who treat women like beasts, and those who treat them like human beings. What we see today is not a clash of civilizations. Civilizations do not clash, but compete," she stated. Responding to the host's question, "Who came up with the concept of a clash of civilizations? Was it not Samuel Huntington? It was not Bin Laden," Sultan said: "The Muslims are the ones who began using this expression. The Muslims are the ones who began the clash of civilizations. The Prophet of Islam said: 'I was ordered to fight the people until they believe in Allah and His Messenger.' When the Muslims divided the people into Muslims and non-Muslims, and called to fight the others until they believe in what they themselves believe, they started this clash, and began this war. In order to start this war, they must reexamine their Islamic books and curricula, which are full of calls for takfir and fighting the infidels." Sultan then turned to Dr. Ibrahim Al-Khouli, an Islamic cleric, and said: "My colleague has said that he never offends other people's beliefs. What civilization on the face of this earth allows him to call other people by names that they did not choose for themselves? Once, he calls them Ahl Al-Dhimma, another time he calls them the 'People of the Book,' and yet another time he compares them to apes and pigs, or he calls the Christians ‘those who incur Allah's wrath.’" "Who told you that they are 'People of the Book'? They are not the People of the Book, they are people of many books. All the useful scientific books that you have today are theirs, the fruit of their free and creative thinking. What gives you the right to call them 'those who incur Allah's wrath,' or 'those who have gone astray,' and then come here and say that your religion commands you to refrain from offending the beliefs of others?" 'Jews forced world to respect them' Al-Khouli asked Sultan whether she was "a heretic?You can say whatever you like. I am a secular human being who does not believe in the supernatural," replied Sultan. "If you are a heretic, there is no point in rebuking you, since you have blasphemed against Islam, the Prophet, and the Koran," lambasted Al-Khouli. "These are personal matters that do not concern you," replied Sultan, adding: "Brother, you can believe in stones, as long as you don't throw them at me. You are free to worship whoever you want, but other people's beliefs are not your concern, whether they believe that the Messiah is God, son of Mary, or that Satan is God, son of Mary. Let people have their beliefs." Speaking about Jewish history, Sultan declared: "The Jews have come from the tragedy (of the Holocaust), and forced the world to respect them, with their knowledge, not with their terror, with their work, not their crying and yelling." "Humanity owes most of the discoveries and science of the 19th and 20th centuries to Jewish scientists. 15 million people, scattered throughout the world, united and won their rights through work and knowledge. We have not seen a single Jew blow himself up in a German restaurant. We have not seen a single Jew destroy a church. We have not seen a single Jew protest by killing people. The Muslims have turned three Buddha statues into rubble. “We have not seen a single Buddhist burn down a Mosque, kill a Muslim, or burn down an embassy. Only the Muslims defend their beliefs by burning down churches, killing people, and destroying embassies. This path will not yield any results. The Muslims must ask themselves what they can do for humankind, before they demand that humankind respect them," she added. The New York Times has reported that since appearing on Al-Jazeera, Sultan has been condemned by Islamic clerics, and been subject to death threats left on her answering phone. One message threatened: "Oh, you are still alive? Wait and see." An email in Arabic read: "If someone were to kill you, it would be me." The Los Angeles Times quoted Sultan after the interview as saying: "I am not against Muslim people, they are my people. I am just trying to change their mentality and their behavior.
  13. You are an inconsistent idiot! Killing is wrong you say, except if it is someone you dislike, like Americans or George Bush. What an immature brainless jerk. How old are you? You sound like a child.
  14. If you read Srila Prabhupada's books or listen to his lectures he warns over and over again about the cheaters.
  15. LOL! Yep, that seems the most likely conclusion. At lesat it was an artistic scam.
  16. Another hyphanated American!?!? I guess the guest is rather naive and does not know about all the bhogi yogis that Srila Prabhupada warned against. Like the Maharishi or the Bhagavan Rajneeseh or the hundreds of other cheaters who came west and sold mantras and had sex with their disciples. Maybe the guest does not know about the other gurus who fell down with their disciples or blooped with their stolen bank accounts. But good luck with your optimism, Guest.
  17. Mystery "Buddha" Boy Goes Missing <small>March 11, 2006</small> <small></small> KATHMANDU - Nepali police began hunting on Saturday for a teenaged boy who some people believe is an reincarnation of Buddha after he disappeared from the site where he had been meditating for almost 10 months. Fifteen-year-old Ram Bahadur Bamjon has not been seen since early Saturday, said Hari Krishna Khatiwada, a district official of Bara, 150 km (95 miles) southeast of Kathmandu. The boy had been meditating there without food or water since May. Some of his followers are also missing. "So far we have found no trace of them," Khatiwada said. Sitting cross-legged beneath a "pipal" tree, which is sacred to Hindus, Bomjon drew more than 100,000 people to the dense forests in southeastern Nepal. But visitors were only allowed to see him from 50 metres (165 feet) away and the boy was hidden from public view at night behind a curtain drawn by his followers. ================= Hmmmmm. I havn't met the little buddha, so I have no comment on whether he is bonafide or not, altho I am skeptical being a cynical American used to so many cheaters. But I have talked to returning climbers and tourists from Nepal, and they tell me that the area is in chaos with Red Chinese saboteurs. Hope the poor boy is OK.....
  18. Good advice. Here are some photo previews of the recommended pilgramage areas: <center></center> <center>Vrndavan</center> <center>Small town on the bank of Yamuna River where Krsna performed His rasa-lila pastimes. One of the most sacred Holy Places in India for pilgrims and sadhus from many faiths. <center>Jaipur and Karoli</center> <center>"Town of Victory" with the fortwhere the original 5000 year old Govindaji Deity from Vrindavana is now being worshiped. </center> <center>Haridwar</center> <center>Haridwar is located on the west bank of theriver Ganges. "Haridwar" literary means "the gate to Lord Hari", Lord Vishnu. It is one of the seven most sacred places of India and in the Puranas it is called Mayapuri-ksetra. </center> <center>Hrisikesh</center> <center>In Hrisikesh, 356 m above the sea level,Ganges leaves the Himalayas and flows into India's lowlands. </center>By clicking on any pictures in the essays you get a much larger one. Safe journey! </center>
  19. My wife dresses to kill. She also cooks the same way. -Henny Youngman ------------------------- My wife and I were happy for twenty years. Then we met. -Rodney Dangerfield -------------------------- A good wife always forgives her husband when she's wrong. -Milton Berle --------------------------- I bought my wife a new car. She called and said, "There was water in the carburetor." I asked her, "Where's the car?" She replied, "In the lake." -Henny Youngman ----------------------------- The secret of a happy marriage remains a secret. -Henny Youngman -------------------------------- After a quarrel, a wife said to her husband, "You know, I was a fool when I married you." The husband replied, "Yes, dear, but I was in love and didn't notice." >------ When a man steals your wife, there is no better revenge than to let him keep her. >----------------------------- I haven't spoken to my wife in 18 months - I don't like to interrupt her. >------------------------ My girlfriend told me I should be more affectionate. So I got myself two girlfriends. ------------------------ A man said his credit card was stolen but he decided not to report it since the thief was spending much less than his wife did. -------------------------- Man is incomplete until he is married. Then he is finished. ------------------------- A little boy asked his father, "Daddy, how much does it cost to get married?" The father replied, "I don't know son, I'm still paying." ------------------------- Young Son: Is it true, Dad, that in some parts of Africa a man doesn't know his wife until he marries her? Dad: That happens in every country, son. ------------------------ Then there was a man who said, "I never knew what real happiness was until I got married; then it was too late. ------------------------- A man placed an ad in the classifieds: "Wife wanted." The next day he received a hundred letters. They all said the same: "You can have mine." ----------------------- A woman was telling her friend, "I made my husband a millionaire." "And what was he before you married him?" asked the friend. "A billionaire." she replied. ------------------------- Marriage is the triumph of imagination over intelligence. Second marriage is the triumph of hope over experience. ------------------------- It's not true that married men live longer than single men. It only seems longer. ------------------------- Losing a wife can be very hard. In my case, it was almost impossible. --------------------- Just think, if it weren't for marriage, men would go through life thinking they had no faults at all. ------------------------ A successful man is one who makes more money than his wife can spend. A successful woman is one who can find such a man. ------------------------- A man meets a genie. The genie tells him he can ask for whatever he wants, but his mother-in-law gets double of what he gets. The man thinks for a moment and says, "Okay, give me a million dollars and beat me till I'm half dead." ------------------------ Men who have pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought jewellery. ------------------------- The most effective way to remember your wife's birthday is to forget it once. ------------------------- First guy (proudly): "My wife's an angel!" Second guy: "You're lucky, mine's still alive!!!
  20. It is not giving you the url because you are not registered, or you have to make 15 or 25 posts first. Here is the url: Appeal to President Mr. Putin for protection of Hindu dharma in Moscow. And here is more information on the situation in Russia: Defend Russian Hindus is a worldwide campaign aimed to build awareness of the harrassment and discrmination against Russian Hindus by the Russian Orthodox Church and the Moscow Government. The campaign has the support of British and Indian Parliamentarians, community leaders and the media, and is led by the Hindu Forum of Britain, National Council of Hindu Temples UK, Hindu Council UK, BAPS Swaminaryan Sanstha, International Society for Krishna Consciousness, Vishwa Hindu Parishad, Hindu Council of Australia, Hindu American Foundation and the Hindu Conference of Canada.
  21. I fully agree with Sriman Siddhaswarupanandas excellent pamphlet on the subject. But Im not the wielder of justice, either, and know that circumstances are always considered. And, re. karma, if those responsible for abortion (industry, scientists dealing in fetal matter, aborters, men who insist on such things, those giving permission) cannot come out of wombs alive, then how are abortions ever stopped? Seems to me that the math is tangent astronomical, and that full scale abortion as policy is just beginning. Any response? Hare Krsna, ys, mahaksadasa PS Maybe on another topic? I see the slippery slope of euthanasia coming, but not full scale abortion as policy. The tide is turning here in America, and most Americans (including women) are against choice. I see Roe v Wade overturned within the decade, and those that want abortions will have to kill their babies in the blue states. But I am finished with this topic, catch up to ya on another one someday. Haribol, ys, rX
  22. <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="468"><tbody><tr><td class="t10"> Thank you, Mr Bush SUNDAY SENTIMENTS | Karan Thapar March 4, 2006 </td></tr> <tr><td class="sttxt" align="left" valign="top"><table align="left" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="190"> <tbody><tr><td width="180"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td align="left" valign="top" width="190"><table align="left" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="180"><tbody><tr height="1"><td colspan="5"> </td></tr><!--<tr height="27"><td width="1"></td><td width="1"></td><td width="176" align="center"></td><td width="1"></td><td width="1"></td></tr> <tr height="1"><td width="1"></td><td height="1" colspan="3"></td><td width="1"></td></tr>--><tr height="27"><td width="1"> </td><td width="1"> </td><td align="center" width="176"> </td><td width="1"> </td><td width="1"> </td></tr><tr height="1"><td width="1"> </td><td colspan="3" height="1"> </td><td width="1"> </td></tr><tr height="27"><td width="1"> </td><td width="1"> </td><td align="center" width="176"> </td><td width="1"> </td><td width="1"> </td></tr><tr height="1"><td width="1"> </td><td colspan="3" height="1"> </td><td width="1"> </td></tr><tr height="27"><td width="1"> </td><td width="1"> </td><td align="center" width="176"> </td><td width="1"> </td><td width="1"> </td></tr><tr height="1"><td width="1"> </td><td colspan="3" height="1"> </td><td width="1"> </td></tr><tr height="1"><td colspan="5"> </td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"> </td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"> </td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" height="8"> </td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"> </td></tr></tbody></table>Have you noticed how the world doesn’t like America? Few countries have anything good to say. The irony is that those for whom it has done the most tend to be least grateful. And this applies regardless of whether the recipient state is Asian, Latin American or European. In the 1950s, when the Marshall Plan was reviving Europe’s crushed fortunes, it was commonplace in England to joke about Yankee unpopularity. The one that became best known went like this: “We hate them for three reasons, because they are over-paid, over-sexed and over-here.” This snide if successful strand of humour has roots that stretch far back into Europe’s relations with the ‘New World’. Oscar Wilde was a past master: “It was wonderful to find America, but it would have been more wonderful still to have missed it”, or “America had often been discovered before Columbus, but it had always been hushed up.” Even the French had their little digs. Clemenceau, who was Prime Minister during World War I, is best known for the following witticism: “America is the only country to have progressed from barbarism to decadence without experiencing the intervening stage of civilisation.” Freud: “America is the most grandiose experiment the world has seen but, I’m afraid, it’s not going to succeed.” What lies behind such humour is rank jealousy. Success, no doubt, breeds envy but when your own impoverishment or incapacity adds the curse of dependence envy turns rapidly into dislike. The more the world needs America the more it hates itself for it. And since one cannot swear at oneself, America becomes the next best victim. Of course, Yankee crassness, at times their innocence and often their idiocy have added to this. Americans are hardly their own best ambassadors. I recall a US Senator at the Cambridge Union who single handedly helped his side lose the motion “This House reaffirms its faith in America.” It happened when, carried away by his eloquence, he warmed to the subject and promised to lift the poor cities of the world “up, up, up — all the way till they look like Kansas City.” That shattered all prospects of a vote in favour. And yet if America feels let down, stung by ingratitude, even lacerated, I can understand its feelings. Because those who need America the most are often the ones to kick hardest. This week India came very close to joining the list of the ungrateful. Consider the facts. After nearly forty years of undisputed existence, the international nuclear non-proliferation regime, one of the world’s most sacred holy cows, has been dismantled to admit one single country. Of itself this is epoch-making. It’s revolutionary. But when you add the fact that this will give India, a country that was sometimes called a nuclear rogue state, the capacity to enlarge its civilian nuclear industry, which otherwise simply couldn’t have happened, the magnitude becomes enormous. But are we grateful? Not if you look at the Left or the Samajwadi Party. Nor if you judge by the so-called popular protest on the streets. Not even if you go by the polls published by newspapers like this one. Instead, we’re more concerned about Bush’s Iraq policy or his threats to Iran, by his duplicity in the war on terrorism or even his simplistic, moralistic, little-Christian attitudes. We prefer to see reasons to dislike him. We ignore all cause for gratitude. My point is simple. If Bush is so terrible why did we seek him out for help? If his Iraq policy is so unforgivable and if he is, as Arundhati Roy insists, a killer, why did we ask for his assistance? The choice to not do so was always there. But we consciously acted otherwise. Now, having got what we wanted, and possibly in far greater measure than expected, does it become us to carp and criticise? The truth is we have in George W. Bush a president more pro-Indian than any before him. In fact the same nuclear deal would not have been possible under Clinton or Kerry or Gore. Bush alone made it happen. And he did so despite our Parliament’s well-known stand on Iraq and the ill-disguised contempt our elite have for him. If he could rise above all that then, surely, in return we could have expressed our gratitude more clearly and with good cheer. The protests should have been postponed or muted. They were hardly a suitable way of saying thank you. </td> </tr><tr><td> </td></tr> </tbody></table>
  23. The teenager who gets the abortion will be aborted herself in the future do to the immutable laws of karma. And it is more white women and teenagers killing their babies than blacks. But you are right, liberal is not the word. LOSER is!
  24. President Bush in Delhi Mar 4, NEW DELHI, INDIA — President Bush's Interfaith Meeting Replaces Visit to Akshardham Delhi Temple. US President George W. Bush will hold a meeting with nine prominent persons representing five religions tomorrow including a Shia leader from Lucknow, a Tibetan monk and a Dalit scholar. Bush will meet these religious leaders on Thursday afternoon following the lunch hosted by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh. This list includes Mohammed Ammar Rizvi, a politician and Shia leader from Lucknow, Swami Agnivesh, Doboom Tulku, a Buddhist monk and scholar from Tibet House, Tarlochan Singh and Syed Zafar Mahmood, an advisor to the government and member of the Sachar committee looking into the socioeconomic status of Muslims in India. While Washington has been keen on the idea right from the start, sources said, there was some discomfort in New Delhi over such a meeting. Initially, the US was toying with the idea of holding this in the form of a ceremony at the Akshardham temple but decided against it after feelers that these meetings must not be made a public affair. Sources said there was also a security rationale in not going ahead with an inter-religious public meeting given that some religious organizations are protesting the Bush visit. As a result, this interaction is being called a "private meeting" by Indian authorities while the US side is more candid with National Security Advisor Stephen Hadley indicating such a meeting ahead of the visit. Bush is known to be sensitive to religion and takes these scruples seriously. He has often remarked at meetings that India despite its huge Muslim population, does not have an Al-Qaeda operative and said so in admiration while introducing the Prime Minister to wife Laura Bush last July. Some of the other religious heads include L. M. Singhvi from the Jain community, James Massey, a prominent Dalit scholar, spokesperson for the Catholic Archdiocese in Delhi Dominique Emmanuel and Acharya Sri Vasa Goswami from the Sri Chaitanya Sansthan. :D:D
  25. Srila Prabhupada Videos Navadvipa Dhama Parikrama Video BVML Video Room I don't have time to upload to google, but you are more than welcome to.
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