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That is factually incorrect.Gospel of John was written after Jesus death claiming to be revelations from Jesus. Most of Mark and Matthew writings were the saying's of Jesus while he was alive.In those writings Jesus never claimed to be god.If he did, please point out. No, it didn't contradict him being with god.But it clearly says what Jesus felt, i.e. Father(god) forsaking himself in the moment of crisis.And that(jesus agony) clearly portrays Jesus being dependent on Father(God). Don't you think Jesus words are more authentic then other people words?.(response to:entire Christian Bible being word's of god) The contrast is Plain and obvious .Krishna Claims to be God In Gita whereas Jesus claims to be dependent on Father and is doing his Father's bidding. Respond to my posts(59 and 53) and see if you find it relevant or not. No, and it is explained clearly in post 53 and it's preceding posts.Eternal punishment in hell for unbelief as described in Christianity is not compatible with Hinduism.

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I have countered that Point in posts 53 and 59. I have no issues with divinity of Jesus.I was pointing out the apparent contradictions you mentioned.The contradictions can be resolved when you separate what Jesus said while he was alive and what The apostles added after his death.Gospel written by John is after the death of Jesus and the Hebrews you mentioned are obviously not Jesus's sayings. In Hinduism the concept of Avatar is established Much before the arrival of Krishna.So, there is no dichotomy as far as Hinduism is concerned. The Jews have an issue about Jesus being the son of god.But, that is an altogether different matter which has to be resolved B/n the Jewish and christian people.

Not much i am afraid.What Jesus said when he was Alive is consistent.What the Apostles(John and mark) added after his passing away were inconsistent with What actually jesus said. Jesus said his mission was to save the jews, "the lost sheep of Israel". Jesus's gospel before he was crucified: Matthew 10:5-6: These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel Matthew 15:24 But He answered and said, "I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." After Jesus's death Apostles Johan and Matthew expanded Jesus mission to include "All nations". Matthew 28:16-20 19 "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, That is Paul(John's) views,Not Jesus's sayings. Mark 15:34 agrees with the other account Matthew 27:46. There is disagreement with regards to Who is the source, Krishna or Vishnu.Some see Krishna as Manifestation of Vishnu and others see "Krishna in Goloka" as the source.The difference is that of perception.I am personally not bothered much about it.

That is too far fetching;Whoever wrote this in the link is wildly imaginative. Going by the bible account of Jesus; Jesus was SENT. Matthew 15:24 But He answered and said, "I was not SENT except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." AND the one who SENT him has forsaken him. Mark 15:34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou FORSAKEN me?

The likes of theist can never abandon their fanatic backgrounds. Krishna says in Gita to surrender to him while performing one's duty.Krishna didn't specify nor restrict the ways one can adopt to surrender to him. Krishna didn't say chanting his name is the only correct way to surrender to him. A learned priest(Brahmin) surrenders to Krishna by performing his duty i.e. chanting mantras. Mechanical chanting of mantras without surrender is fruitless.That is the moral of story for the likes of Jada bharata's brothers.Jada Bharata was playing dumb to disassociate himself from his brothers. The story also is an eye opener to Harekrishnas like theist who spends most of their time splitting hair ends and forget surrender to krishna.Mere chanting of Vedic Mantras or Harekrishna Mantra doesn't mean one is surrendering to Lord.

The Main issue is eternal hell.Unbeleivers of Krishna don't go to eternal hell as per Bhagavadgita. But, As per Bible Unbelievers of Jesus(Son of God) goes to eternal hell.

Krishna himself says so;In bhagavad gita.

It just occurred to me that the last supper was that of bread and not a bowl of meat.

True, But they are not going to suffer in Eternal hell for not believing in Krishna. Lust eventually leads to love and anger eventually leads to realization; at least in majority of cases .

Healthy dose of Lust is required for propagation of life.Anger is a natural reaction. How they are sins?. If the above impulses are excessive and uncontrolled one may be inclined to do bad things and hence SIN. Plenty of people can control their impulses without believing in Jesus.

True.I resisted the urge to write to them and instead alerted the scholars about this.

These rules are meant to dissuade people from trivializing chanting.Just a set of guidelines. I can even prepare another list of plain commonsense rules like dont chant when you are drunk etc

Here is Mark Mark 16:16 (kjv) He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.. It looks like a done deal. Krishna or Shiva(rudra) don't condemn you to eternal hell if you worship other gods.You pretty well know that. Now getting back to the original question. Saved from What?(as per bible) Don't give missionary bs like Jesus is Prajapathi etc..

Oh yes , jesus is the saviour from Wrath of God(Father) BIBLE: John 3:36 kjv He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. Jesus is the Savior from the righteous Anger(Wrath) of God(Father). Am i right?, melvin.

Gita is not a dietary book .It just says Satvik diet.Read before posting.

BDuignan@eb.com Brian Duignan, Senior Editor, Philosophy and Religion Encyclopedia It is there in the link i gave above.

Please don't put words in my mouth. Me and sant never agreed about Eternal punishment. We are asking you about Eternal punishment as mentioned in bible.

What i wrote is consistent with Bhagavad Gita.Btw, i am not a harekrishna.I am a simple hindu. BG 7.21: I am in everyone's heart as the Supersoul. As soon as one desires to worship some Deva, I make his faith steady so that he can devote himself to that particular deity. BG 7.22: Endowed with such a faith, he endeavors to worship a particular Deva and obtains his desires. But in actuality these benefits are bestowed by Me alone. Does it sound like Hari is bothered with supremacy?. Take your issue with Neohindus and NEO-gurus. Nothing is made up in my posts. Your verbal diarrhea means nothing. As usual nothing to cheer about unless you are drunk.

Good job, Simla. Let there be more emails to britannica objecting to their offensive position.

Pure calumny.Sure,go through all my posts, especially at http://www.indiadivine.org/audarya/spiritual-discussions/454643-what-s-name-2.html

I think you meant to ask will there be Eternal punishment in Hell.

Yes people all over Europe rejected this Myth that jesus is the only saviour.It is in no way demeaning to jesus because jesus said: Matthew 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Here it goes.A traditional hindu respects the rights of people to follow non-hindu faiths but doesn't ACCEPT their theology THAT a Hindu is destined for eternal punishment in hell. The neohindus view and declare with some vehemence (I know it sounds strange and bizarre ) that the non-hindu faiths who deride hinduism are VALID. It is no wonder that the world has utter contempt for hinduism. Btw: nice touch bringing in nazism.