Amlesh

i think you are speaking of varna by qualities not birth . its true that a person born as a shudra(by qualities) cannot help but act like one .

 

but its also fact that varna is also by birth . this has been the standard ways of distinguishing ones varna for atleast 2000 years . im reffering to such 'by birth' cases here in this thread .

 

Then the title of your thread should have been Caste System since Swardharma is something much to do with Varna.

But anyways, I've understood now what you want to discuss about.

The caste system is little by little fading away.. at least in Hindu country like Mauritius, maybe in India it is still prevalent.

But no one can deny the fact that Varna is still there throughout the World.

Take for example an IT Company, we have Top LEVEL Manager and consultants who act like Brahmanas, who are the brain of the company. We do also have the Watchman, supervisors and guards et al as Ksatriyas, we have accountants, commerce managers, et al as Vaish and finally Sudras as the Software Engineers like myself.

Who says it is not in our society.

Read some notes on the Alwars... simply stunning.

The Lord descends on Earth in His original form only in 3 yugas, justifying the name Triyuga.

The forms has been mentioned in the SB.

One serves according to one's nature.

If one possesses the characteristics of a Sudra; it is not that the person will have choice for do's and don't's, he'll be compelled by his own nature to act in that particular way.

I got the luck to travel in India and it is really really kool.

Unstructurally organised.

When NASA took the picture of Mother Earth.. only 2 man-made things were visible.

1) The Great Wall of China

2) The mighty Bridge engineered by Nal and Neel supervised by Sri Ram himself.

SANT are u on a troll mode.

 

He is not.

what rubbish you are posting?

 

Kaiser spoke about the evidence via Camera early on this thread and raised the validity of the existence of Lord Rama.

Sant's answer to that was terrific.

Would you like to elaborate please.

Would you like to elaborate please.

Would you like to elaborate please.

Beautiful.

Beautiful.

Beautiful.

Religion causes war?

 

I DON'T THINK SO!

 

This is the dumbest myth.

 

Even the wars between the Devas and Asuras were not over religious differences.

 

American Revolution, the American Civil war, WW1, WW2, Korean war, Vietnam war, Persian Gulf war, Iraq war, Afganistan war --were not over religious differences.

 

Even the Islamo-nazis will acknowledge that there own designs on world domination would be worthless without the land & natural resources that come along with conquering and subjugating masses of other people.

 

Security, Wealth, Territory and ego engrandisment are the causes of war.

 

One will NOT witness that wars are fought by religous groups.

 

It may be a banner to herald which team is which, but the generals of each side are looking for security or the wealth of the other.

Perfectly said.

In addition.. there might be perverts with no religious connections who uses dumbos who are at the head of religious institutions who also don't know the abcd of religion to instigate sparks to start such wars.

When things begin to degenerate then we blame religion.

Lust and Gold have become the cause of such wars and blind and perverted religionists are being used as a mean.

Why can't they call themselves "Hindus"? It is like they are embarressed to call themselves such.

 

Stop labeling yourselves using Foreign labels and start calling yourselves as your forefathers' have done.

Then even the word Hindu fails.

My forefathers called themselves Sanatanist. Not even Hindu

Even Ravana appeared to have no Bhakti.. infact, He was against the Lord.

But he attained His Abode.

Whatever it seems in appearance is not necessarily the same in substance.

When an animal is killed by an ordinary being certainly I'll cry but I'll be jealous of the very animal who has been killed by the hand of Sri Ram.

I'm longing for that type of death.

Theist never lead any pack.

His is a relative unknown who never really committed to ISKCON or got initiated.

 

Me too.. so tell what is the parameter to be so-called qualified.

To "offer" someone liberation who doesn't crave for it doesn't make any sense. God will respect free will of the beings and not interfere with it.

Please, do your own effort for liberation , and not wait for God to "kill" you and offer liberation.

Liberation is infact granted for those who don't crave for it.

Indians have become really pathetic... they always forget the best rulers for their country has always been those who are adherents of the Vedic texts.

The perfect are not those necessarily having a Harward Degree but those who possesses the Perfect Knowledge from Sruties and Smrities.

That was awesome Mahak.

Cheers.

Bheesma Pitamaha and Mahatma Vidur.

Gandhiji followed his path just as Arjuna was ordered to do.

As a Ksatriya, He did not leave his duty as a politician.

The weapons used by Arjuna was different than that of Gandhiji.. still the war was on.

The use of violence already started before the Advent of Gandhiji.. but to no avail, only he knew the best weapon to get independence.

Had Himsa been the best tool for independence.. he would have used so.

Remember he was once asked whether Ahimsa was a good option against Hitler, he answered "MIGHT BE".

Death is Truth and how to die is just an excuse.

Had MK cared so much about his body's death.. he would not have become that rare soul that Krishna described to Arjuna.

Neither would have India obtained its Independence.

Harimein... Mere to Girdhar Gopal, Dusra na koy... Payoji Maine Ram Ratan... simply mesmerizing.

Glory to the Universal Mother.