Maitreya Posted June 10, 2001 Report Share Posted June 10, 2001 Originally posted by atma: I can't sleep! Any herb for that? atma, Oh yes, valerian.Nasty smelling and tasting but works well.Any herbs that are classified as nervines will help. Too much valerian and you may be foggy in the morning.So start with small doses and increase if needed. Dream of Krishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atma Posted June 10, 2001 Report Share Posted June 10, 2001 Why it is that valerian reminds me of cats? Maybe I read it in a novel or something? Sure that you don't want to poison me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maitreya Posted June 10, 2001 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2001 Poison you?,no never.You still haven't told me about the robbers and goondas yet. I'm not sure about cats, but there is a dirty sock connection.Valerianic acid is what makes feet stink.El yucko! I use it in powdered form.You can use veggie caps, taking one ,then try two if needed, 1/2 hour before sleep. I also just swish some in plain water and chug it down, but then I can handle it 'cause I am a man. In large doses it is an emetic, so start small. Small dose the effect is sattvic Large dose it is tamasic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gauracandra Posted June 10, 2001 Report Share Posted June 10, 2001 Try putting some Lavendar extract under your nose. This was big a few years back with the Aromatherapy crowd. Supposedly, the aroma of Lavendar connects with the brain to make one sleepy. I tried it for a while, bought some lavendar extract at a health food store. It smells nice but quite frankly I don't think I noticed any particular results. Perhaps it varies by person or perhaps its due to a placebo effect. Who know. Anyone else try this before? Gauracandra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gauracandra Posted June 10, 2001 Report Share Posted June 10, 2001 Hey Maitreya, Looks like we're on at the same time I was writing my message and when I was done noticed that yours was there when it wasn't before. Gauracandra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maitreya Posted June 10, 2001 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2001 Haribol Gauracandra, The thing about Aromatherapy is you have to have true extract and not syntheic.But in any case it does seem to be a very subtle effect. Funny this would be my last post before going to see this Iranian movie called, Smell of Camphor, Fragrance of Jasmine. I'll check this thread before I leave in case you have a review for me.I have a feeling it could go either way. Haribol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRdd Posted June 10, 2001 Report Share Posted June 10, 2001 Lavender yes. My favorite scent too. Sometimes I spray it on my pillow at night (lavender water) when I remember to. Where pure French lavender oil (another accolade to the French), just love it, almost more than the smell of ghee and laxmi dhoop together (but not quite--no, not at all in fact, they are different categories; one is in the transcendental realm). My body can't handle valerian. I would be careful, as Maitreya says. If you can handle milk there is nothing like a soothing hot cuppa before bed, honey in it too. Camomile is great. So are hot baths before bed. Don't read in bed and don't even keep books in your bedroom (at least according to feng shui) as their energy is stimulating. I'm not claiming to follow all my own advice. I am notoriously anti- sleep. Something about it seems boring to me. But he/she can not be a yogi who sleeps too little, so I am working on it. Jayaradhe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasanudas Posted June 10, 2001 Report Share Posted June 10, 2001 I think it comes with older age I know many of my friends experience this. A lot of the time it's just an overactive mind worrying about money, the future, relationships, where I fit in etc. I tend to see it as mercy if it's not so extreme that you can't function the next day, so long as I can find constructive projects to do with my wakefulness,it's all a plus, because on the one hand I hate to waste time in the jaws of the great serpent. When I really start needing sleep I eat heavier at night, drink pure, hot milk if your body can handle it, and physicly exhaust your energy in the day, this can knock me out like a rock. If you get between 5 and 7 hrs it's plenty well enough, below this you are becoming insomniac. Just one more condition to add to the list of ists and acs. Some sedatives not to try hashish, opium, and boring company. Good hoppin' kirtan with a little valerian afterwards works for me. May you sleep in peace ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ My main problem is waking up!!!! If all else fails read my posts each night before you're about to go to bed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasanudas Posted June 10, 2001 Report Share Posted June 10, 2001 JRdd, I wasn't copying you. I was just in the back room typing my post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahnava Nitai Das Posted June 10, 2001 Report Share Posted June 10, 2001 There is this ayurvedic oil that Dr. S.K.Jain, the famous Banglore astrologer, has made. If you rub it on your head (a whole hand full of oil, not just a couple drops), your whole head starts to tinkle and you feel like your floating. You will sleep very quickly and deeply. He hasn't marketed it or mass produced it yet. He just gives it as gifts to his friends. It was the most amazing oil I ever saw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gauracandra Posted June 10, 2001 Report Share Posted June 10, 2001 The funny thing about hot baths/showers for me, is that while they do relax you, I always find I don't sleep well after them. I think its because it raises my body temperature, and then my body has to work to cool itself down. Perhaps that extra effort causes me not to sleep well after hot showers. By the way Atma have we given you any help, or are you now even less sure about what to do? Gauracandra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atma Posted June 10, 2001 Report Share Posted June 10, 2001 Gee guys, thanks for the advise. My problem is that I work in the evenings and reach home almost at midnight. Have no problem going to sleep inmediately but somehow I wake up before 5 AM and I can't go back to sleep even though I tell my mind to go back to sleep because I need to rest. Living so close to the temple I hear every single noise, Mangal Aratik going on, conshells, devotees chanting, others that walk and don't think and in the end I get up and chant japa instead of wasting my time tossing in the sleeping bag. During the day I can't close my eyes because is so much going on. The bags under my eyes are reaching my knees, I'm not exagerating. I'll try whatever you say, let you know after few days. JNDas, can't you get me some of that oil from Surendra? He knows me from Bangalore and Mayapur. He is a very good astrologer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRdd Posted June 10, 2001 Report Share Posted June 10, 2001 Originally posted by dasanudas: If all else fails read my posts each night before you're about to go to bed. Good idea! Then I will fall asleep in a soothed frame of heart with a smile on my face. where did you get those frogs? (and I see you mastered the art of posting them too.) Jayaradhe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRdd Posted June 10, 2001 Report Share Posted June 10, 2001 Originally posted by dasanudas: JRdd, I wasn't copying you. I was just in the back room typing my post. And what time was that in Oz? two a.m.? JR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRdd Posted June 10, 2001 Report Share Posted June 10, 2001 JNdas, how can we make friends with this astrologer? Jayaradhe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahnava Nitai Das Posted June 11, 2001 Report Share Posted June 11, 2001 JNDas, can't you get me some of that oil from Surendra? I will try. He is actually always looking for devotees to give his oil to. Too bad he is so busy! My own supply of oil is dangerously low. I have maybe 50 ml left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atma Posted June 11, 2001 Report Share Posted June 11, 2001 I can't sleep! Any herb for that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasanudas Posted June 11, 2001 Report Share Posted June 11, 2001 [ Atma you sound like your rythems are fairy much in sync with a devotees life. We should be so fortunate, waking up to kirtan every day sounds like a dream. Tried having a snooze in the afternoon. Jayaradhe Those are just joyful little creme de mente jumpin'jamun eva greenies No master, ee right next t'ya in the smilies Nitai Gaur Nitai Gaur Well right now I recon it's arati time in Vrndavan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasanudas Posted June 11, 2001 Report Share Posted June 11, 2001 <img src =http://www.animfactory.net/images/book_worm_closeup_blink_sm_wht.gif> Time! what's that? let's see remember this dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atma Posted June 11, 2001 Report Share Posted June 11, 2001 Last night I slept 7 hours, a record for me lately. I think because of all your blessings and well wishes JNdas you have to get me Surendra's address. He's amazing. The first time that I met him, he told me to write 3 questions in a paper and put it in a envelope. He put the envelope in the lotus feet of Lord Nrisinhadev and without reading the questions he answered them! I was quite impressed to say the least and everything came true! Doesn't A.T. have his address? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahnava Nitai Das Posted June 11, 2001 Report Share Posted June 11, 2001 I have his address in a book somewhere. Just give me a while to locate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talasiga Posted June 12, 2001 Report Share Posted June 12, 2001 Atma if all else fails try changing your name for the soul never sleeps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atma Posted June 13, 2001 Report Share Posted June 13, 2001 OK. What about "Nidra"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talasiga Posted June 13, 2001 Report Share Posted June 13, 2001 Originally posted by atma: OK. What about "Nidra"? No, doesnt seem to be a very nice sounding name. What about "Atmashraya"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atma Posted June 17, 2001 Report Share Posted June 17, 2001 Talasiga: "atmashraya" sounds good. Call me as you like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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