Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2005 We've just got back from North Wales. We had a lovely time, although the weather could have been better. On the journey we stopped at the Welcome Break services on the motorway - nothing vegan, well only the garden salad which was lettuce, tomato and a few strips of pepper. There was no soya milk available for the drinks, although other services we have visited do decaffeinated soya lattes. We went self-catering which was just as well. We found a good restaurant in Bangor, The Java, which although not vegetarian had half the menu vegetarian, and three vegan meals. So we did manage to eat out once. They did not have soya milk though. We went to Holyhead, to visit a vegan cafe called The Harvest Moon - but alas it was no longer a cafe - although the owner was kind enough to offer us tea and biscuits. While looking at menus in windows we came across quite a few cafes/restaurants that didn't even have vegetarian options - so no hope of a meal for vegans. At least the next weekend we have away is in Derby, so we can call in at V1 in Nottingham for a meal. There is also a chap who has a veggie/vegan cafe in Matlock - so we'll have to see if that is a possibility. Jo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2005 is a service wot us colonists call a gas station? Jo Cwazy May 28, 2005 4:59 PM North Wales holiday We've just got back from North Wales. We had a lovely time, although the weather could have been better. On the journey we stopped at the Welcome Break services on the motorway - nothing vegan, well only the garden salad which was lettuce, tomato and a few strips of pepper. There was no soya milk available for the drinks, although other services we have visited do decaffeinated soya lattes. We went self-catering which was just as well. We found a good restaurant in Bangor, The Java, which although not vegetarian had half the menu vegetarian, and three vegan meals. So we did manage to eat out once. They did not have soya milk though. We went to Holyhead, to visit a vegan cafe called The Harvest Moon - but alas it was no longer a cafe - although the owner was kind enough to offer us tea and biscuits. While looking at menus in windows we came across quite a few cafes/restaurants that didn't even have vegetarian options - so no hope of a meal for vegans. At least the next weekend we have away is in Derby, so we can call in at V1 in Nottingham for a meal. There is also a chap who has a veggie/vegan cafe in Matlock - so we'll have to see if that is a possibility. JoTo send an email to - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2005 Hi Fraggle It's the motorway services, where you can get petrol, go to the loo, and eat (allegedly) and drink. BBJo - fraggle Sunday, May 29, 2005 1:58 AM Re: North Wales holiday is a service wot us colonists call a gas station? Jo Cwazy May 28, 2005 4:59 PM North Wales holiday We've just got back from North Wales. We had a lovely time, although the weather could have been better. On the journey we stopped at the Welcome Break services on the motorway - nothing vegan, well only the garden salad which was lettuce, tomato and a few strips of pepper. There was no soya milk available for the drinks, although other services we have visited do decaffeinated soya lattes. We went self-catering which was just as well. We found a good restaurant in Bangor, The Java, which although not vegetarian had half the menu vegetarian, and three vegan meals. So we did manage to eat out once. They did not have soya milk though. We went to Holyhead, to visit a vegan cafe called The Harvest Moon - but alas it was no longer a cafe - although the owner was kind enough to offer us tea and biscuits. While looking at menus in windows we came across quite a few cafes/restaurants that didn't even have vegetarian options - so no hope of a meal for vegans. At least the next weekend we have away is in Derby, so we can call in at V1 in Nottingham for a meal. There is also a chap who has a veggie/vegan cafe in Matlock - so we'll have to see if that is a possibility. JoTo send an email to - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2005 Hi Jo Sounds like a lovely time! BB Nikki , " Jo Cwazy " <heartwork@c...> wrote: > We've just got back from North Wales. We had a lovely time, although the weather could have been better. > > On the journey we stopped at the Welcome Break services on the motorway - nothing vegan, well only the garden salad which was lettuce, tomato and a few strips of pepper. There was no soya milk available for the drinks, although other services we have visited do decaffeinated soya lattes. > > We went self-catering which was just as well. We found a good restaurant in Bangor, The Java, which although not vegetarian had half the menu vegetarian, and three vegan meals. So we did manage to eat out once. They did not have soya milk though. > > We went to Holyhead, to visit a vegan cafe called The Harvest Moon - but alas it was no longer a cafe - although the owner was kind enough to offer us tea and biscuits. > > While looking at menus in windows we came across quite a few cafes/restaurants that didn't even have vegetarian options - so no hope of a meal for vegans. > > At least the next weekend we have away is in Derby, so we can call in at V1 in Nottingham for a meal. There is also a chap who has a veggie/vegan cafe in Matlock - so we'll have to see if that is a possibility. > > Jo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2005 We did have a good time. We revisited places that we have been before - Snowdon, Fairy Glen, Lake Vyrynwy (not sure of the spelling), and loads of other pretty places, out in the wilds. BB Jo > Hi Jo > > Sounds like a lovely time! > > BB > Nikki > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2005 gas stations tho, i don't know of any out ehre that would have a soy latte' here its mostly prepackaged brightly colored crap, and horrid little meat products stuck under tanning lights Jo Cwazy May 29, 2005 4:12 AM Re: North Wales holiday Hi Fraggle It's the motorway services, where you can get petrol, go to the loo, and eat (allegedly) and drink. BBJo - fraggle Sunday, May 29, 2005 1:58 AM Re: North Wales holiday is a service wot us colonists call a gas station? Jo Cwazy May 28, 2005 4:59 PM North Wales holiday We've just got back from North Wales. We had a lovely time, although the weather could have been better. On the journey we stopped at the Welcome Break services on the motorway - nothing vegan, well only the garden salad which was lettuce, tomato and a few strips of pepper. There was no soya milk available for the drinks, although other services we have visited do decaffeinated soya lattes. We went self-catering which was just as well. We found a good restaurant in Bangor, The Java, which although not vegetarian had half the menu vegetarian, and three vegan meals. So we did manage to eat out once. They did not have soya milk though. We went to Holyhead, to visit a vegan cafe called The Harvest Moon - but alas it was no longer a cafe - although the owner was kind enough to offer us tea and biscuits. While looking at menus in windows we came across quite a few cafes/restaurants that didn't even have vegetarian options - so no hope of a meal for vegans. At least the next weekend we have away is in Derby, so we can call in at V1 in Nottingham for a meal. There is also a chap who has a veggie/vegan cafe in Matlock - so we'll have to see if that is a possibility. JoTo send an email to - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2005 I don't think they are the same. Over here a gas (petrol) station is a small area that sells a few food items, newspapers, engine oil etc. as well as petrol. The motorway services are whole complexes placed every 20 to 40 miles along the motorways. There is a petrol station, and then a large complex with loos, shops for items you might want on your journey, and sweets etc. There are several food outlets -usually one of either the Burger King, Little Chef etc., and sandwich bars, a coffee shops. There's also usually a small arcade area, telephones, kiddies play area. Some of them also have Travelodges beside them - like motels. Jo gas stations tho, i don't know of any out ehre that would have a soy latte' here its mostly prepackaged brightly colored crap, and horrid little meat products stuck under tanning lights Jo Cwazy May 29, 2005 4:12 AM Re: North Wales holiday Hi Fraggle It's the motorway services, where you can get petrol, go to the loo, and eat (allegedly) and drink. BBJo - fraggle Sunday, May 29, 2005 1:58 AM Re: North Wales holiday is a service wot us colonists call a gas station? Jo Cwazy May 28, 2005 4:59 PM North Wales holiday We've just got back from North Wales. We had a lovely time, although the weather could have been better. On the journey we stopped at the Welcome Break services on the motorway - nothing vegan, well only the garden salad which was lettuce, tomato and a few strips of pepper. There was no soya milk available for the drinks, although other services we have visited do decaffeinated soya lattes. We went self-catering which was just as well. We found a good restaurant in Bangor, The Java, which although not vegetarian had half the menu vegetarian, and three vegan meals. So we did manage to eat out once. They did not have soya milk though. We went to Holyhead, to visit a vegan cafe called The Harvest Moon - but alas it was no longer a cafe - although the owner was kind enough to offer us tea and biscuits. While looking at menus in windows we came across quite a few cafes/restaurants that didn't even have vegetarian options - so no hope of a meal for vegans. At least the next weekend we have away is in Derby, so we can call in at V1 in Nottingham for a meal. There is also a chap who has a veggie/vegan cafe in Matlock - so we'll have to see if that is a possibility. JoTo send an email to - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2005 lotsa gas stations along a freeway are the same here.....most gas stations on a major expressway are large affairs with all sorts of gaudy items for the traveller Jo Cwazy May 29, 2005 12:13 PM Re: North Wales holiday I don't think they are the same. Over here a gas (petrol) station is a small area that sells a few food items, newspapers, engine oil etc. as well as petrol. The motorway services are whole complexes placed every 20 to 40 miles along the motorways. There is a petrol station, and then a large complex with loos, shops for items you might want on your journey, and sweets etc. There are several food outlets -usually one of either the Burger King, Little Chef etc., and sandwich bars, a coffee shops. There's also usually a small arcade area, telephones, kiddies play area. Some of them also have Travelodges beside them - like motels. Jo gas stations tho, i don't know of any out ehre that would have a soy latte' here its mostly prepackaged brightly colored crap, and horrid little meat products stuck under tanning lights Jo Cwazy May 29, 2005 4:12 AM Re: North Wales holiday Hi Fraggle It's the motorway services, where you can get petrol, go to the loo, and eat (allegedly) and drink. BBJo - fraggle Sunday, May 29, 2005 1:58 AM Re: North Wales holiday is a service wot us colonists call a gas station? Jo Cwazy May 28, 2005 4:59 PM North Wales holiday We've just got back from North Wales. We had a lovely time, although the weather could have been better. On the journey we stopped at the Welcome Break services on the motorway - nothing vegan, well only the garden salad which was lettuce, tomato and a few strips of pepper. There was no soya milk available for the drinks, although other services we have visited do decaffeinated soya lattes. We went self-catering which was just as well. We found a good restaurant in Bangor, The Java, which although not vegetarian had half the menu vegetarian, and three vegan meals. So we did manage to eat out once. They did not have soya milk though. We went to Holyhead, to visit a vegan cafe called The Harvest Moon - but alas it was no longer a cafe - although the owner was kind enough to offer us tea and biscuits. While looking at menus in windows we came across quite a few cafes/restaurants that didn't even have vegetarian options - so no hope of a meal for vegans. At least the next weekend we have away is in Derby, so we can call in at V1 in Nottingham for a meal. There is also a chap who has a veggie/vegan cafe in Matlock - so we'll have to see if that is a possibility. JoTo send an email to - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 1, 2005 Hi Jo, Glad you enjoyed Gods own country, I would recommend West Wales next, lovely coast line around St. Davids ( a vegan saint!). Welcome Break is a bit of a contradiction in my experiance, just an excuse to rip people off who need a break from driving and some grub. The Valley Vegan......Jo Cwazy <heartwork wrote: We've just got back from North Wales. We had a lovely time, although the weather could have been better. On the journey we stopped at the Welcome Break services on the motorway - nothing vegan, well only the garden salad which was lettuce, tomato and a few strips of pepper. There was no soya milk available for the drinks, although other services we have visited do decaffeinated soya lattes. We went self-catering which was just as well. We found a good restaurant in Bangor, The Java, which although not vegetarian had half the menu vegetarian, and three vegan meals. So we did manage to eat out once. They did not have soya milk though. We went to Holyhead, to visit a vegan cafe called The Harvest Moon - but alas it was no longer a cafe - although the owner was kind enough to offer us tea and biscuits. While looking at menus in windows we came across quite a few cafes/restaurants that didn't even have vegetarian options - so no hope of a meal for vegans. At least the next weekend we have away is in Derby, so we can call in at V1 in Nottingham for a meal. There is also a chap who has a veggie/vegan cafe in Matlock - so we'll have to see if that is a possibility. JoTo send an email to - Peter H Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 1, 2005 Hi Peter > Glad you enjoyed Gods own country... Are you trying to upset the Americans? :-) BB Peter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 1, 2005 We're not upset, dear. We know you're confused <g> Here are pictures of God's Country! http://www.enlightphoto.com/webpages/cacstn/cacstn1_12.htm http://www.enlightphoto.com/webpages/cacstn/cacstn1_1.htm http://www.enlightphoto.com/webpages/cacstn/cacstn1_2.htm http://www.enlightphoto.com/webpages/cacstn/cacstn1_13.htm http://www.enlightphoto.com/webpages/cacstn/cacstn1_10.htm Lynda, who lives where the only *real* trees are <g> - <metalscarab Wednesday, June 01, 2005 8:30 AM Re: North Wales holiday > Hi Peter > > > Glad you enjoyed Gods own country... > > Are you trying to upset the Americans? :-) > > BB > Peter > > > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 1, 2005 HI Peter (VV) We did enjoy your beautiful country thanks. We did quite a bit of walking and 'clambering' over rocks and rocky streams etc. and had lots of fresh air. Many years ago we camped around Wales, and did pop over to Aberystwyth (needed a launderette) and to Devils Bridge area, which was very pretty. BBJo - peter hurd Wednesday, June 01, 2005 10:33 AM Re: North Wales holiday Hi Jo, Glad you enjoyed Gods own country, I would recommend West Wales next, lovely coast line around St. Davids ( a vegan saint!). Welcome Break is a bit of a contradiction in my experiance, just an excuse to rip people off who need a break from driving and some grub. The Valley Vegan......Jo Cwazy <heartwork wrote: We've just got back from North Wales. We had a lovely time, although the weather could have been better. On the journey we stopped at the Welcome Break services on the motorway - nothing vegan, well only the garden salad which was lettuce, tomato and a few strips of pepper. There was no soya milk available for the drinks, although other services we have visited do decaffeinated soya lattes. We went self-catering which was just as well. We found a good restaurant in Bangor, The Java, which although not vegetarian had half the menu vegetarian, and three vegan meals. So we did manage to eat out once. They did not have soya milk though. We went to Holyhead, to visit a vegan cafe called The Harvest Moon - but alas it was no longer a cafe - although the owner was kind enough to offer us tea and biscuits. While looking at menus in windows we came across quite a few cafes/restaurants that didn't even have vegetarian options - so no hope of a meal for vegans. At least the next weekend we have away is in Derby, so we can call in at V1 in Nottingham for a meal. There is also a chap who has a veggie/vegan cafe in Matlock - so we'll have to see if that is a possibility. JoTo send an email to - Peter H Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail To send an email to - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 1, 2005 Hi Jo > Many years ago we camped around Wales, and did pop over to Aberystwyth (needed a launderette) and to Devils Bridge area, > which was very pretty. To be strictly accurate... it was 20 years ago!!!! BB Peter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2005 Hi Peter and Peter, Don't worry, we're not easily upset. It's not like we would start a war or anything over the littlest of things. I mean, we do have more brains than that. We are a civilized sort you know. We do.. Oh, who am I fooling! Nevermind..... BB Nikki , metalscarab@c... wrote: > Hi Peter > > > Glad you enjoyed Gods own country... > > Are you trying to upset the Americans? :-) > > BB > Peter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2005 far be it fer us to start a war over god nikki_mackovitch Jun 2, 2005 4:48 AM Re: North Wales holiday Hi Peter and Peter,Don't worry, we're not easily upset. It's not like we would start a war or anything over the littlest of things.I mean, we do have more brains than that. We are a civilized sort you know. We do..Oh, who am I fooling!Nevermind.....BBNikki , metalscarab@c... wrote:> Hi Peter> > > Glad you enjoyed Gods own country...> > Are you trying to upset the Americans? :-)> > BB> PeterTo send an email to - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2005 Hi Peter Good grief - was it really that long ago? Seems like only yesterday :-) Wasn't it wet? BBJo - Peter Wednesday, June 01, 2005 11:40 PM Re: North Wales holiday Hi Jo > Many years ago we camped around Wales, and did pop over to Aberystwyth (needed a launderette) and to Devils Bridge area, > which was very pretty. To be strictly accurate... it was 20 years ago!!!! BB PeterTo send an email to - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2005 HI Nikki Don't worry, if you start any wars, we'll be right there with you (not against you!). BB Jo > Hi Peter and Peter, > > Don't worry, we're not easily upset. It's not like we would start a > war or anything over the littlest of things. > > I mean, we do have more brains than that. We are a civilized sort > you know. We do.. > > Oh, who am I fooling! > > Nevermind..... > > BB > Nikki > > , metalscarab@c... wrote: > > Hi Peter > > > > > Glad you enjoyed Gods own country... > > > > Are you trying to upset the Americans? :-) > > > > BB > > Peter > > > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2005 I certainly hope not. She is very much against violence! Lynda - fraggle Thursday, June 02, 2005 8:27 AM Re: Re: North Wales holiday far be it fer us to start a war over god nikki_mackovitch Jun 2, 2005 4:48 AM Re: North Wales holiday Hi Peter and Peter,Don't worry, we're not easily upset. It's not like we would start a war or anything over the littlest of things.I mean, we do have more brains than that. We are a civilized sort you know. We do..Oh, who am I fooling!Nevermind.....BBNikki , metalscarab@c... wrote:> Hi Peter> > > Glad you enjoyed Gods own country...> > Are you trying to upset the Americans? :-)> > BB> PeterTo send an email to - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2005 > Good grief - was it really that long ago? Seems like only yesterday :-) Wasn't it wet? And windy!!!! BB Peter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2005 Hi Jo, I know, and I cannot apologize to you enough for that! Unless of course it was a Vegan non-violent war, then I am proud to have you stand beside me! BB Nikki , " Jo Cwazy " <heartwork@c...> wrote: > HI Nikki > > Don't worry, if you start any wars, we'll be right there with you (not > against you!). > > BB > Jo > > > Hi Peter and Peter, > > > > Don't worry, we're not easily upset. It's not like we would start a > > war or anything over the littlest of things. > > > > I mean, we do have more brains than that. We are a civilized sort > > you know. We do.. > > > > Oh, who am I fooling! > > > > Nevermind..... > > > > BB > > Nikki > > > > , metalscarab@c... wrote: > > > Hi Peter > > > > > > > Glad you enjoyed Gods own country... > > > > > > Are you trying to upset the Americans? :-) > > > > > > BB > > > Peter > > > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to - > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2005 Ah yes :-) I remember it well. BBJo - Peter Thursday, June 02, 2005 6:11 PM Re: North Wales holiday > Good grief - was it really that long ago? Seems like only yesterday :-) Wasn't it wet? And windy!!!! BB PeterTo send an email to - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 3, 2005 Hi Nikki > Unless of course it was a Vegan non-violent war, then I am proud to > have you stand beside me! Just to completely breach the copyright of Red Dwarf.... it wouldn't be a war without death... it would just be a nasty argument with lots of pushing and shoving :-) BB Peter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 3, 2005 Im on the british side. any country that produces, Morrissey, The Cure, Depeche Mode and the Beatles among many ohters, IS CAPABLE OF NO WRONG! , " Jo Cwazy " <heartwork@c...> wrote: > HI Nikki > > Don't worry, if you start any wars, we'll be right there with you (not > against you!). > > BB > Jo > > > Hi Peter and Peter, > > > > Don't worry, we're not easily upset. It's not like we would start a > > war or anything over the littlest of things. > > > > I mean, we do have more brains than that. We are a civilized sort > > you know. We do.. > > > > Oh, who am I fooling! > > > > Nevermind..... > > > > BB > > Nikki > > > > , metalscarab@c... wrote: > > > Hi Peter > > > > > > > Glad you enjoyed Gods own country... > > > > > > Are you trying to upset the Americans? :-) > > > > > > BB > > > Peter > > > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to - > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 3, 2005 Hi Peter I have two responses to this: 1) It could be the " death " of the carnivore eating habits and B) Hey! Was that nudge on purpose when you said that? BB Nikki , " Peter " <metalscarab@c...> wrote: > Hi Nikki > > > Unless of course it was a Vegan non-violent war, then I am proud to > > have you stand beside me! > > Just to completely breach the copyright of Red Dwarf.... it wouldn't be a > war without death... it would just be a nasty argument with lots of pushing > and shoving :-) > > BB > Peter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 3, 2005 then you get to explain maggie thatcher, the spice girls, and telly tubbies to me then Anouk Sickler Jun 2, 2005 10:38 PM Re: North Wales holiday Im on the british side. any country that produces, Morrissey, The Cure, Depeche Mode and the Beatles among many ohters,IS CAPABLE OF NO WRONG! Those who control the past, control the future; Those who control the future, control the present; Those who control the present, control the past.^ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
