Guest guest Report post Posted March 21, 2005 Welcome, Meg! Matthew On Mar 21, 2005, at 7:37 PM, pagenmaceley wrote: > > > Hi all. I just wanted to say hi and introduce myself. I am new to > the group. My name is Meg and I have been a vegetarian for about 9 > months. I am loving how I've felt since I've taken meat out of my > diet. I have a roommate who is a meat eater, but I don't care what > she eats, as long as I'm not eating it! However, if I'm cooking, > it's going to be meatless. I've tried a lot of new recipes over the > last few months (some better than others), so I am looking forward to > sharing some of those and hearing from you all, as well. > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 14, 2005 Hello CS Welcome to the group. Going vegan would be the best thing you could do for your health. I have known asthma to disappear completely in people when they turn vegan. Dairy products are really bad for your respiratory system, and if you give these up completely your asthma should improve or disappear. Arthritis is much better without meat and dairy, and a few vegetables/fruits like rhubarb which have a high oxalic acid content. There is no guarantee that you will lose weight on a vegan diet as the food is so delicious, but if you eat a healthy diet based on beans, nuts, seeds, lentils, tofu, rice and other grains, vegetables and fruit you should be able to lose weight. It is 'extras' that put on weight and keep it there. Good luck. Jo , " Langlois Rousseau " <langlois_rousseau@h...> wrote: > Hello, I'm a 38 year old female who just joined the group. I joined mostly > because I feel I need some support, a bit of a push, to go vegan. I've > tried going vegan before and find that I need to eat quite a bit to feel > even marginally satisfied. > > I have asthma and a painful but not debilitating arthritic condition. > Problem is, these conditions seem to respond favorably to a meat- based, low > carbohydrate diet that I wish to abandon in favor of going vegan. Also, I > am 50 pounds overweight and would hope a starchy vegan diet wouldn't make my > weight loss fantasy completely impossible, lol! Has anyone had good long > term results with a vegan diet improving asthma and/or arthritis? Has > anyone lost considerable weight? Thanks All. > > CS > > _______________ > Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® > Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 14, 2005 Hi CS Welcome to the group > Has anyone had good long > term results with a vegan diet improving asthma and/or arthritis? Has > anyone lost considerable weight? Thanks All. I used to have very mild asthma, and don't have it now - but I have no idea how much that has to do with having a vegan diet! BB Peter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 14, 2005 Hi CS and WELCOME! Tis a pleasure to meet you. I cannot help with the arthritis or asthma part. At least not too much. The only thing I can comment on with the arthritis is that hubby has gout which is a form of arthritis. Gout is brought on primarily by red meat, shellfish, beer and wine. Which is why in the old, old days it was called " The rich man's disease " . I know also that dairy agrivates arthritis. But that's about all I can tell you. As for the losing weight, I can say that I am a starch and carb fiend. I eat bagels, bread and pasta quite often and I have to literally fight to keep weight on. My biggest problem is making sure my weight doesn't drop. So you may have some success on that level. Hope this helps even a little bit and again welcome to the group. You've joined a pretty great group here. Lots of helpful friendly people who are not afraid to speak their mind. What more can you ask for? Nikki , " Langlois Rousseau " <langlois_rousseau@h...> wrote: > Hello, I'm a 38 year old female who just joined the group. I joined mostly > because I feel I need some support, a bit of a push, to go vegan. I've > tried going vegan before and find that I need to eat quite a bit to feel > even marginally satisfied. > > I have asthma and a painful but not debilitating arthritic condition. > Problem is, these conditions seem to respond favorably to a meat- based, low > carbohydrate diet that I wish to abandon in favor of going vegan. Also, I > am 50 pounds overweight and would hope a starchy vegan diet wouldn't make my > weight loss fantasy completely impossible, lol! Has anyone had good long > term results with a vegan diet improving asthma and/or arthritis? Has > anyone lost considerable weight? Thanks All. > > CS > > _______________ > Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® > Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp? cid=3963 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 14, 2005 Hi Peter I always felt it was because you turned vegan that your asthma disappeared. BB Jo > Hi CS > > Welcome to the group > > > Has anyone had good long > > term results with a vegan diet improving asthma and/or arthritis? Has > > anyone lost considerable weight? Thanks All. > > I used to have very mild asthma, and don't have it now - but I have no > idea how much that has to do with having a vegan diet! > > BB > Peter > > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 27, 2005 Hi DragonSpiritHealer Welcome to the list. Thanks for your introduction. This is (as the name suggests) quite a chatty group, and doesn't have to be on topic. Ask as many questions as you like, and hopefully someone will know the answer of have experience relating to the question. BB Jo , DragonSpiritHealer <dragonspirithealer> wrote: > > Greetings All, I wanted to take a moment to introduce myself to this group. Since I am not sure what you might want to know, I will keep it simple. I am 38 years old, in a committed relationship of 13 yrs., and newly turned vegetarian (3 months). I am interested in possibly going vegan and thought this might be a good group to try to get more info. My partner is not so sure about the idea of going vegan, but will let me explore it if I want. I am college educated with concentrations or degrees in Fine Arts - AA, Religion - BA, Mental Health - concentration, Theology/Ethics 21 hr Masters Certificate, Web Technologies/Computers concentration and a MA in Teaching - Elementary Ed. and looking for a teaching job as we speak. > > > > I went vegetarian because I was tired of getting sick every time I ate meat. I am not now nor have I ever been a health nut. I need to exercise and loose weight, but am working on liking myself for who I am. I am finding it not that hard at all to be vegetarian and after contemplating what animals go through to provide milk, cheese, and eggs, I am not sure if I really want to keep eating these products. I have also been reading a lot of Buddhist texts and that is also pushing me towards the possibility of going vegan. I am also non- traditional in my faith, which also lends towards a more vegetarian/vegan lifestyle as well. > > > > I hope this is enough for an into. I hope to get to know more about veganism through this list. > > > > Blessings, > > Dragonspirithealer > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 27, 2005 Hi Dragonspirithealer and WELCOME to the group! Nikki , DragonSpiritHealer <dragonspirithealer> wrote: > > Greetings All, I wanted to take a moment to introduce myself to this group. Since I am not sure what you might want to know, I will keep it simple. I am 38 years old, in a committed relationship of 13 yrs., and newly turned vegetarian (3 months). I am interested in possibly going vegan and thought this might be a good group to try to get more info. My partner is not so sure about the idea of going vegan, but will let me explore it if I want. I am college educated with concentrations or degrees in Fine Arts - AA, Religion - BA, Mental Health - concentration, Theology/Ethics 21 hr Masters Certificate, Web Technologies/Computers concentration and a MA in Teaching - Elementary Ed. and looking for a teaching job as we speak. > > > > I went vegetarian because I was tired of getting sick every time I ate meat. I am not now nor have I ever been a health nut. I need to exercise and loose weight, but am working on liking myself for who I am. I am finding it not that hard at all to be vegetarian and after contemplating what animals go through to provide milk, cheese, and eggs, I am not sure if I really want to keep eating these products. I have also been reading a lot of Buddhist texts and that is also pushing me towards the possibility of going vegan. I am also non-traditional in my faith, which also lends towards a more vegetarian/vegan lifestyle as well. > > > > I hope this is enough for an into. I hope to get to know more about veganism through this list. > > > > Blessings, > > Dragonspirithealer > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 30, 2005 Hi Christina! welcome to the group! another group you might enjoy, and where we have a bunch of files posted, with reading resources, some recipes, etc. is over at rawschool...(yes, I've recently been knighted a moderator over there by Nora -- great site..) http://health.Rawschool/ see some earlier posts, or the website about reading resources. I empathize with you about needed weight loss - in early 2001, I was in the 247 lb. range..today I'm in the mid 150's. (I'm 5'9 " , medium build, 54, male,married, 4 kids, only one left at home,) suggest aiming for this food setup: whole, raw, fresh, ripe, organic or better. use bananan and fresh dates (or other " sweet " fruits for a base...) search here for info...lots of it here.... based upon your post you'll have some " addiction " issues to deal with - the stuff you're ingesting isn't food. It's not about " willpower " - it's about aligning your Life, your living with the results you want to create. If you want to create health, choose paths that lead to Health. We're all free to make any choices we want; the consequences of those choices/decisions are not ours: they're automatic! We absolutely cannot fool Nature. I tend to post more over on RawSchool these days, just because it's an easier place to post files, etc. A few of us may open another site in the upcoming months -- more on that later... On a continuum, I recommend that you stop doing the things that are creating disease, and start doing those that will create health. see the earlier post here about searching, or over on RawSchool. Lots of info here -- food is only one of the components of Health. There's a good list of ~30 elsewhere here on the site... here's the quick summary: Conditions/Elements of Health Clean fresh air Pure Water Comfortable temperatures Sufficient Sleep Appropriate Diet Internal and external Cleanliness Fitness Salts Amusement and entertainment Individual sovereignty Love and appreciation Pleasant environment Sunshine Creative useful work Self-confidence Peace Harmony Gregariousness Smiles Emotional poise Security Expression of reproductive instincts Satisfaction Sense of humor Sense of worth Human touch Music Biophilia Appreciation of other life forms and Interaction with other life forms Faith that taking better care of ourselves is worth the effort. Knowledge of how to take care of ourselves list orig. from Dr. Doug Graham for weight loss, less calories overall, more raw foods, more exercise, especially aerobic. enjoy the journey. all the best, Bob rawfood , odelay vato <xinmywayx> wrote: > I figured the best way to get involved in this group is to " jump right in " so I'll start with an introduction. > > My name is Christina, I'm 26, married and the mother of a 2 1/2 yr old son. I have been vegetarian for about 11 years and vegan for about 6 1/2 (give or take a few months). I am no stranger to the raw food diet and I am excited to just hear how other people are making it work for them. I have really wanted to commit to a diet of 80% raw food but I lack one thing, willpower. I swear, nothing is harder for me than skipping a starbucks coffee, not eating 2 bagels in one sitting and then washing it all down with a diet coke and some chinese food. I am hoping by joining this group I can use peoples advice and ideas to incorporate more raw food into my diet and slowly have raw food become the main staple of my life. > > On a side note, I need to drop some serious poundage. Being vegan, as we all know, doesnt mean I am thin and I am struggling alot since having my son with losing weight. Any one who has had any experience of using raw food to assist in weight loss would be very inspiring to me! I need to lose about 80 pounds (gosh, I hate even looking at that number,....). I am, however, not interested in eating raw food, losing weight and going back to my bagel/chinese food diet..I'd like this to stick. > > Thats a couple things about me....Im excited to be apart of this group! > > Christina > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 30, 2005 Hi Christina I can so relate. I am slowly transitioning myself to raw. for 10yrs i didn't eat pork or red meat. I was fairly close to raw at that time too, but after my son I went nuts with different diets and nothing was working and I just feeling worse and worse. I also ave chronic clinical depression that I started on meds a couple of years ago-it got harder for me to fight it-but when I look back I didn't have that much issues with my depression when I was like 50-75% raw. Now I got to go back to being raw but still cooking for my family. My down fall is cheese and baked goods-nothing like fresh bread. But I am trying to take everything one day at a time. I am off of my anti-depressents because my husband and I are trying to have a baby but I am hoping by the time I have the baby and am done nursing I won't need the meds any longer because I am 100% raw. I quit smoking a few years ago and trying to quit cooked foods is so reminiscent of that struggle. I know there are other newbies on the list and there are the experts I hope with this kind of group to be able to forge through and get 100% raw with in a year time span-if not less. Rachel On 7/28/05, odelay vato <xinmywayx wrote: > I figured the best way to get involved in this group is to " jump right in " > so I'll start with an introduction. > > My name is Christina, I'm 26, married and the mother of a 2 1/2 yr old son. > I have been vegetarian for about 11 years and vegan for about 6 1/2 (give or > take a few months). I am no stranger to the raw food diet and I am excited > to just hear how other people are making it work for them. I have really > wanted to commit to a diet of 80% raw food but I lack one thing, willpower. > I swear, nothing is harder for me than skipping a starbucks coffee, not > eating 2 bagels in one sitting and then washing it all down with a diet coke > and some chinese food. I am hoping by joining this group I can use peoples > advice and ideas to incorporate more raw food into my diet and slowly have > raw food become the main staple of my life. > > On a side note, I need to drop some serious poundage. Being vegan, as we all > know, doesnt mean I am thin and I am struggling alot since having my son > with losing weight. Any one who has had any experience of using raw food to > assist in weight loss would be very inspiring to me! I need to lose about 80 > pounds (gosh, I hate even looking at that number,....). I am, however, not > interested in eating raw food, losing weight and going back to my > bagel/chinese food diet..I'd like this to stick. > > Thats a couple things about me....Im excited to be apart of this group! > > Christina > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 30, 2005 Welcome Dragonspirithealer ? ( come on you must have a more user friendly typing name than that?!) Welcome to the group, ask any questions you like regarding our lifesty;e, we have a couple of fonts of all knowledge and a lot of experiance on here so feel free. From whence do you hail? Glad to here that you are questioning where food comes from and its production/consequences, something that I think more children should be taught at school - might also have a bearing on their spirituality as well. As well as dairy products dont forget that honey is taboo ( unless you can train bees to deliver it to you that is), as a lot of bees are killed in its production, as with silk. Best wishes The Valley Vegan...... DragonSpiritHealer <dragonspirithealer wrote: Greetings All, I wanted to take a moment to introduce myself to this group. Since I am not sure what you might want to know, I will keep it simple. I am 38 years old, in a committed relationship of 13 yrs., and newly turned vegetarian (3 months). I am interested in possibly going vegan and thought this might be a good group to try to get more info. My partner is not so sure about the idea of going vegan, but will let me explore it if I want. I am college educated with concentrations or degrees in Fine Arts - AA, Religion - BA, Mental Health - concentration, Theology/Ethics 21 hr Masters Certificate, Web Technologies/Computers concentration and a MA in Teaching - Elementary Ed. and looking for a teaching job as we speak. I went vegetarian because I was tired of getting sick every time I ate meat. I am not now nor have I ever been a health nut. I need to exercise and loose weight, but am working on liking myself for who I am. I am finding it not that hard at all to be vegetarian and after contemplating what animals go through to provide milk, cheese, and eggs, I am not sure if I really want to keep eating these products. I have also been reading a lot of Buddhist texts and that is also pushing me towards the possibility of going vegan. I am also non-traditional in my faith, which also lends towards a more vegetarian/vegan lifestyle as well. I hope this is enough for an into. I hope to get to know more about veganism through this list. Blessings, Dragonspirithealer Peter H To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Security Centre. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 30, 2005 I like DragonSpiritHealer - it's a chosen name. BBJo - peter hurd Saturday, July 30, 2005 4:41 PM Re: Introduction Welcome Dragonspirithealer ? ( come on you must have a more user friendly typing name than that?!) Welcome to the group, ask any questions you like regarding our lifesty;e, we have a couple of fonts of all knowledge and a lot of experiance on here so feel free. From whence do you hail? Glad to here that you are questioning where food comes from and its production/consequences, something that I think more children should be taught at school - might also have a bearing on their spirituality as well. As well as dairy products dont forget that honey is taboo ( unless you can train bees to deliver it to you that is), as a lot of bees are killed in its production, as with silk. Best wishes The Valley Vegan...... DragonSpiritHealer <dragonspirithealer wrote: Greetings All, I wanted to take a moment to introduce myself to this group. Since I am not sure what you might want to know, I will keep it simple. I am 38 years old, in a committed relationship of 13 yrs., and newly turned vegetarian (3 months). I am interested in possibly going vegan and thought this might be a good group to try to get more info. My partner is not so sure about the idea of going vegan, but will let me explore it if I want. I am college educated with concentrations or degrees in Fine Arts - AA, Religion - BA, Mental Health - concentration, Theology/Ethics 21 hr Masters Certificate, Web Technologies/Computers concentration and a MA in Teaching - Elementary Ed. and looking for a teaching job as we speak. I went vegetarian because I was tired of getting sick every time I ate meat. I am not now nor have I ever been a health nut. I need to exercise and loose weight, but am working on liking myself for who I am. I am finding it not that hard at all to be vegetarian and after contemplating what animals go through to provide milk, cheese, and eggs, I am not sure if I really want to keep eating these products. I have also been reading a lot of Buddhist texts and that is also pushing me towards the possibility of going vegan. I am also non-traditional in my faith, which also lends towards a more vegetarian/vegan lifestyle as well. I hope this is enough for an into. I hope to get to know more about veganism through this list. Blessings, Dragonspirithealer Peter H To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Security Centre. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 30, 2005 Peter, How about Draggy? That is a shorter name I use. I am just very careful about using my real name on-line. That is why I have two accounts so that I can access different things without worrying about people knowing me. Thanks for encouraging questions, I do have many. But I am trying to go slow and get a feel for the group before just jumping in. I did get the book Becoming Vegan from my library but have not had a chance to read it yet. I hope to start it this week. I had fun shopping at the local Kroger yesterday. I went without my partner and ended up getting lots of stuff. I was only going for bread, but came home with fresh veggies, soy milk (partner did not like that), soy margarine (that does not taste bad at all), veggie burgers, and other stuff all of which was vegan or animal product free. However, I was not able to find vegan mayonnaise. I am not sure where to find that. My partner is not sure she will like the vegan stuff, even when I told her about cheese alternatives that I found. Right now we are using up the cheese & yogurt stuff in the house. I am not going to push her into anything. I am also in an area where there are absolutely no vegetarian places to eat, so when eating out I will most likely end up being vegetarian instead of vegan. But if I am vegan at home as much as I can, that is at least a start. And also a nice balance. I do not want to cause problems with the partner if I don't have to. So we are finding a balance as we go. The saddest part is no more ice cream once the one in the freezer is finished. Is there a vegan alternative to chocolate chip ice cream? What about yogurt? Is there a soy alternative? I have not found one locally. I am in Illinois in a small farming community so I was surprised to find what I have so far. Thanks, and any ideas or info will be appreciated from anyone. Blessings, Draggy peter hurd <swpgh01 wrote: Welcome Dragonspirithealer ? ( come on you must have a more user friendly typing name than that?!) Welcome to the group, ask any questions you like regarding our lifesty;e, we have a couple of fonts of all knowledge and a lot of experiance on here so feel free. From whence do you hail? Glad to here that you are questioning where food comes from and its production/consequences, something that I think more children should be taught at school - might also have a bearing on their spirituality as well. As well as dairy products dont forget that honey is taboo ( unless you can train bees to deliver it to you that is), as a lot of bees are killed in its production, as with silk. Best wishes The Valley Vegan...... DragonSpiritHealer <dragonspirithealer wrote: Greetings All, I wanted to take a moment to introduce myself to this group. Since I am not sure what you might want to know, I will keep it simple. I am 38 years old, in a committed relationship of 13 yrs., and newly turned vegetarian (3 months). I am interested in possibly going vegan and thought this might be a good group to try to get more info. My partner is not so sure about the idea of going vegan, but will let me explore it if I want. I am college educated with concentrations or degrees in Fine Arts - AA, Religion - BA, Mental Health - concentration, Theology/Ethics 21 hr Masters Certificate, Web Technologies/Computers concentration and a MA in Teaching - Elementary Ed. and looking for a teaching job as we speak. I went vegetarian because I was tired of getting sick every time I ate meat. I am not now nor have I ever been a health nut. I need to exercise and loose weight, but am working on liking myself for who I am. I am finding it not that hard at all to be vegetarian and after contemplating what animals go through to provide milk, cheese, and eggs, I am not sure if I really want to keep eating these products. I have also been reading a lot of Buddhist texts and that is also pushing me towards the possibility of going vegan. I am also non-traditional in my faith, which also lends towards a more vegetarian/vegan lifestyle as well. I hope this is enough for an into. I hope to get to know more about veganism through this list. Blessings, Dragonspirithealer Peter H To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Security Centre. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 30, 2005 Thanks, but for anyone who feels the need to shorten it, Draggy is ok. DragonSpiritHealer Jo Cwazy <heartwork wrote: I like DragonSpiritHealer - it's a chosen name. BBJo - peter hurd Saturday, July 30, 2005 4:41 PM Re: Introduction Welcome Dragonspirithealer ? ( come on you must have a more user friendly typing name than that?!) Welcome to the group, ask any questions you like regarding our lifesty;e, we have a couple of fonts of all knowledge and a lot of experiance on here so feel free. From whence do you hail? Glad to here that you are questioning where food comes from and its production/consequences, something that I think more children should be taught at school - might also have a bearing on their spirituality as well. As well as dairy products dont forget that honey is taboo ( unless you can train bees to deliver it to you that is), as a lot of bees are killed in its production, as with silk. Best wishes The Valley Vegan...... DragonSpiritHealer <dragonspirithealer wrote: Greetings All, I wanted to take a moment to introduce myself to this group. Since I am not sure what you might want to know, I will keep it simple. I am 38 years old, in a committed relationship of 13 yrs., and newly turned vegetarian (3 months). I am interested in possibly going vegan and thought this might be a good group to try to get more info. My partner is not so sure about the idea of going vegan, but will let me explore it if I want. I am college educated with concentrations or degrees in Fine Arts - AA, Religion - BA, Mental Health - concentration, Theology/Ethics 21 hr Masters Certificate, Web Technologies/Computers concentration and a MA in Teaching - Elementary Ed. and looking for a teaching job as we speak. I went vegetarian because I was tired of getting sick every time I ate meat. I am not now nor have I ever been a health nut. I need to exercise and loose weight, but am working on liking myself for who I am. I am finding it not that hard at all to be vegetarian and after contemplating what animals go through to provide milk, cheese, and eggs, I am not sure if I really want to keep eating these products. I have also been reading a lot of Buddhist texts and that is also pushing me towards the possibility of going vegan. I am also non-traditional in my faith, which also lends towards a more vegetarian/vegan lifestyle as well. I hope this is enough for an into. I hope to get to know more about veganism through this list. Blessings, Dragonspirithealer Peter H To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Security Centre. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 31, 2005 sounds good draggy =o]] Introduction Thanks, but for anyone who feels the need to shorten it, Draggy is ok. DragonSpiritHealer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 31, 2005 Ice creams: Tofutti and Swedish Glace (I think that's what the firm's called- Sweden's in there somewhere anyway). Let me know if you can't find the mayonnaise and I'll give you a recipe that's very easy to make in a blender - that's how we all used to have to do it before the stuff came out on the market. I used to be addicted to coleslaw so it was very important.....:-) Cheers Mike On Behalf Of DragonSpiritHealer30 July 2005 20:58 Subject: Re: Introduction Peter, How about Draggy? That is a shorter name I use. I am just very careful about using my real name on-line. That is why I have two accounts so that I can access different things without worrying about people knowing me. Thanks for encouraging questions, I do have many. But I am trying to go slow and get a feel for the group before just jumping in. I did get the book Becoming Vegan from my library but have not had a chance to read it yet. I hope to start it this week. I had fun shopping at the local Kroger yesterday. I went without my partner and ended up getting lots of stuff. I was only going for bread, but came home with fresh veggies, soy milk (partner did not like that), soy margarine (that does not taste bad at all), veggie burgers, and other stuff all of which was vegan or animal product free. However, I was not able to find vegan mayonnaise. I am not sure where to find that. My partner is not sure she will like the vegan stuff, even when I told her about cheese alternatives that I found. Right now we are using up the cheese & yogurt stuff in the house. I am not going to push her into anything. I am also in an area where there are absolutely no vegetarian places to eat, so when eating out I will most likely end up being vegetarian instead of vegan. But if I am vegan at home as much as I can, that is at least a start. And also a nice balance. I do not want to cause problems with the partner if I don't have to. So we are finding a balance as we go. The saddest part is no more ice cream once the one in the freezer is finished. Is there a vegan alternative to chocolate chip ice cream? What about yogurt? Is there a soy alternative? I have not found one locally. I am in Illinois in a small farming community so I was surprised to find what I have so far. Thanks, and any ideas or info will be appreciated from anyone. Blessings, Draggy peter hurd <swpgh01 wrote: Welcome Dragonspirithealer ? ( come on you must have a more user friendly typing name than that?!) Welcome to the group, ask any questions you like regarding our lifesty;e, we have a couple of fonts of all knowledge and a lot of experiance on here so feel free. From whence do you hail? Glad to here that you are questioning where food comes from and its production/consequences, something that I think more children should be taught at school - might also have a bearing on their spirituality as well. As well as dairy products dont forget that honey is taboo ( unless you can train bees to deliver it to you that is), as a lot of bees are killed in its production, as with silk. Best wishes The Valley Vegan...... DragonSpiritHealer <dragonspirithealer wrote: Greetings All, I wanted to take a moment to introduce myself to this group. Since I am not sure what you might want to know, I will keep it simple. I am 38 years old, in a committed relationship of 13 yrs., and newly turned vegetarian (3 months). I am interested in possibly going vegan and thought this might be a good group to try to get more info. My partner is not so sure about the idea of going vegan, but will let me explore it if I want. I am college educated with concentrations or degrees in Fine Arts - AA, Religion - BA, Mental Health - concentration, Theology/Ethics 21 hr Masters Certificate, Web Technologies/Computers concentration and a MA in Teaching - Elementary Ed. and looking for a teaching job as we speak. I went vegetarian because I was tired of getting sick every time I ate meat. I am not now nor have I ever been a health nut. I need to exercise and loose weight, but am working on liking myself for who I am. I am finding it not that hard at all to be vegetarian and after contemplating what animals go through to provide milk, cheese, and eggs, I am not sure if I really want to keep eating these products. I have also been reading a lot of Buddhist texts and that is also pushing me towards the possibility of going vegan. I am also non-traditional in my faith, which also lends towards a more vegetarian/vegan lifestyle as well. I hope this is enough for an into. I hope to get to know more about veganism through this list. Blessings, Dragonspirithealer Peter H To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Security Centre. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 31, 2005 Hi Mike Can you post it anyway - all recipes are much appreciated - as are gardening tips etc. Jo - Michael Benis Sunday, July 31, 2005 2:32 PM RE: Introduction Ice creams: Tofutti and Swedish Glace (I think that's what the firm's called- Sweden's in there somewhere anyway). Let me know if you can't find the mayonnaise and I'll give you a recipe that's very easy to make in a blender - that's how we all used to have to do it before the stuff came out on the market. I used to be addicted to coleslaw so it was very important.....:-) Cheers Mike On Behalf Of DragonSpiritHealer30 July 2005 20:58 Subject: Re: Introduction Peter, How about Draggy? That is a shorter name I use. I am just very careful about using my real name on-line. That is why I have two accounts so that I can access different things without worrying about people knowing me. Thanks for encouraging questions, I do have many. But I am trying to go slow and get a feel for the group before just jumping in. I did get the book Becoming Vegan from my library but have not had a chance to read it yet. I hope to start it this week. I had fun shopping at the local Kroger yesterday. I went without my partner and ended up getting lots of stuff. I was only going for bread, but came home with fresh veggies, soy milk (partner did not like that), soy margarine (that does not taste bad at all), veggie burgers, and other stuff all of which was vegan or animal product free. However, I was not able to find vegan mayonnaise. I am not sure where to find that. My partner is not sure she will like the vegan stuff, even when I told her about cheese alternatives that I found. Right now we are using up the cheese & yogurt stuff in the house. I am not going to push her into anything. I am also in an area where there are absolutely no vegetarian places to eat, so when eating out I will most likely end up being vegetarian instead of vegan. But if I am vegan at home as much as I can, that is at least a start. And also a nice balance. I do not want to cause problems with the partner if I don't have to. So we are finding a balance as we go. The saddest part is no more ice cream once the one in the freezer is finished. Is there a vegan alternative to chocolate chip ice cream? What about yogurt? Is there a soy alternative? I have not found one locally. I am in Illinois in a small farming community so I was surprised to find what I have so far. Thanks, and any ideas or info will be appreciated from anyone. Blessings, Draggy peter hurd <swpgh01 wrote: Welcome Dragonspirithealer ? ( come on you must have a more user friendly typing name than that?!) Welcome to the group, ask any questions you like regarding our lifesty;e, we have a couple of fonts of all knowledge and a lot of experiance on here so feel free. From whence do you hail? Glad to here that you are questioning where food comes from and its production/consequences, something that I think more children should be taught at school - might also have a bearing on their spirituality as well. As well as dairy products dont forget that honey is taboo ( unless you can train bees to deliver it to you that is), as a lot of bees are killed in its production, as with silk. Best wishes The Valley Vegan...... DragonSpiritHealer <dragonspirithealer wrote: Greetings All, I wanted to take a moment to introduce myself to this group. Since I am not sure what you might want to know, I will keep it simple. I am 38 years old, in a committed relationship of 13 yrs., and newly turned vegetarian (3 months). I am interested in possibly going vegan and thought this might be a good group to try to get more info. My partner is not so sure about the idea of going vegan, but will let me explore it if I want. I am college educated with concentrations or degrees in Fine Arts - AA, Religion - BA, Mental Health - concentration, Theology/Ethics 21 hr Masters Certificate, Web Technologies/Computers concentration and a MA in Teaching - Elementary Ed. and looking for a teaching job as we speak. I went vegetarian because I was tired of getting sick every time I ate meat. I am not now nor have I ever been a health nut. I need to exercise and loose weight, but am working on liking myself for who I am. I am finding it not that hard at all to be vegetarian and after contemplating what animals go through to provide milk, cheese, and eggs, I am not sure if I really want to keep eating these products. I have also been reading a lot of Buddhist texts and that is also pushing me towards the possibility of going vegan. I am also non-traditional in my faith, which also lends towards a more vegetarian/vegan lifestyle as well. I hope this is enough for an into. I hope to get to know more about veganism through this list. Blessings, Dragonspirithealer Peter H To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Security Centre. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 31, 2005 Speaking of books, does anyone have good books to recommend for us novices. Jonnie DragonSpiritHealer <dragonspirithealer wrote: Peter, How about Draggy? That is a shorter name I use. I am just very careful about using my real name on-line. That is why I have two accounts so that I can access different things without worrying about people knowing me. Thanks for encouraging questions, I do have many. But I am trying to go slow and get a feel for the group before just jumping in. I did get the book Becoming Vegan from my library but have not had a chance to read it yet. I hope to start it this week. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 31, 2005 Oh, oh, I'll take that recipe!Michael Benis <michael.benis wrote: Ice creams: Tofutti and Swedish Glace (I think that's what the firm's called- Sweden's in there somewhere anyway). Let me know if you can't find the mayonnaise and I'll give you a recipe that's very easy to make in a blender - that's how we all used to have to do it before the stuff came out on the market. I used to be addicted to coleslaw so it was very important.....:-) Cheers Mike On Behalf Of DragonSpiritHealer30 July 2005 20:58 Subject: Re: Introduction Peter, How about Draggy? That is a shorter name I use. I am just very careful about using my real name on-line. That is why I have two accounts so that I can access different things without worrying about people knowing me. Thanks for encouraging questions, I do have many. But I am trying to go slow and get a feel for the group before just jumping in. I did get the book Becoming Vegan from my library but have not had a chance to read it yet. I hope to start it this week. I had fun shopping at the local Kroger yesterday. I went without my partner and ended up getting lots of stuff. I was only going for bread, but came home with fresh veggies, soy milk (partner did not like that), soy margarine (that does not taste bad at all), veggie burgers, and other stuff all of which was vegan or animal product free. However, I was not able to find vegan mayonnaise. I am not sure where to find that. My partner is not sure she will like the vegan stuff, even when I told her about cheese alternatives that I found. Right now we are using up the cheese & yogurt stuff in the house. I am not going to push her into anything. I am also in an area where there are absolutely no vegetarian places to eat, so when eating out I will most likely end up being vegetarian instead of vegan. But if I am vegan at home as much as I can, that is at least a start. And also a nice balance. I do not want to cause problems with the partner if I don't have to. So we are finding a balance as we go. The saddest part is no more ice cream once the one in the freezer is finished. Is there a vegan alternative to chocolate chip ice cream? What about yogurt? Is there a soy alternative? I have not found one locally. I am in Illinois in a small farming community so I was surprised to find what I have so far. Thanks, and any ideas or info will be appreciated from anyone. Blessings, Draggy peter hurd <swpgh01 wrote: Welcome Dragonspirithealer ? ( come on you must have a more user friendly typing name than that?!) Welcome to the group, ask any questions you like regarding our lifesty;e, we have a couple of fonts of all knowledge and a lot of experiance on here so feel free. From whence do you hail? Glad to here that you are questioning where food comes from and its production/consequences, something that I think more children should be taught at school - might also have a bearing on their spirituality as well. As well as dairy products dont forget that honey is taboo ( unless you can train bees to deliver it to you that is), as a lot of bees are killed in its production, as with silk. Best wishes The Valley Vegan...... DragonSpiritHealer <dragonspirithealer wrote: Greetings All, I wanted to take a moment to introduce myself to this group. Since I am not sure what you might want to know, I will keep it simple. I am 38 years old, in a committed relationship of 13 yrs., and newly turned vegetarian (3 months). I am interested in possibly going vegan and thought this might be a good group to try to get more info. My partner is not so sure about the idea of going vegan, but will let me explore it if I want. I am college educated with concentrations or degrees in Fine Arts - AA, Religion - BA, Mental Health - concentration, Theology/Ethics 21 hr Masters Certificate, Web Technologies/Computers concentration and a MA in Teaching - Elementary Ed. and looking for a teaching job as we speak. I went vegetarian because I was tired of getting sick every time I ate meat. I am not now nor have I ever been a health nut. I need to exercise and loose weight, but am working on liking myself for who I am. I am finding it not that hard at all to be vegetarian and after contemplating what animals go through to provide milk, cheese, and eggs, I am not sure if I really want to keep eating these products. I have also been reading a lot of Buddhist texts and that is also pushing me towards the possibility of going vegan. I am also non-traditional in my faith, which also lends towards a more vegetarian/vegan lifestyle as well. I hope this is enough for an into. I hope to get to know more about veganism through this list. Blessings, Dragonspirithealer Peter H To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Security Centre. Start your day with - make it your home page Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 31, 2005 Jo, I planted my potatoes this afternoon. I actually planted a sweet potato that was growing in my pantry so that one will be ahead of my russet potato. Jo Cwazy <heartwork wrote: Hi Mike Can you post it anyway - all recipes are much appreciated - as are gardening tips etc. Jo - Michael Benis Sunday, July 31, 2005 2:32 PM RE: Introduction Ice creams: Tofutti and Swedish Glace (I think that's what the firm's called- Sweden's in there somewhere anyway). Let me know if you can't find the mayonnaise and I'll give you a recipe that's very easy to make in a blender - that's how we all used to have to do it before the stuff came out on the market. I used to be addicted to coleslaw so it was very important.....:-) Cheers Mike On Behalf Of DragonSpiritHealer30 July 2005 20:58 Subject: Re: Introduction Peter, How about Draggy? That is a shorter name I use. I am just very careful about using my real name on-line. That is why I have two accounts so that I can access different things without worrying about people knowing me. Thanks for encouraging questions, I do have many. But I am trying to go slow and get a feel for the group before just jumping in. I did get the book Becoming Vegan from my library but have not had a chance to read it yet. I hope to start it this week. I had fun shopping at the local Kroger yesterday. I went without my partner and ended up getting lots of stuff. I was only going for bread, but came home with fresh veggies, soy milk (partner did not like that), soy margarine (that does not taste bad at all), veggie burgers, and other stuff all of which was vegan or animal product free. However, I was not able to find vegan mayonnaise. I am not sure where to find that. My partner is not sure she will like the vegan stuff, even when I told her about cheese alternatives that I found. Right now we are using up the cheese & yogurt stuff in the house. I am not going to push her into anything. I am also in an area where there are absolutely no vegetarian places to eat, so when eating out I will most likely end up being vegetarian instead of vegan. But if I am vegan at home as much as I can, that is at least a start. And also a nice balance. I do not want to cause problems with the partner if I don't have to. So we are finding a balance as we go. The saddest part is no more ice cream once the one in the freezer is finished. Is there a vegan alternative to chocolate chip ice cream? What about yogurt? Is there a soy alternative? I have not found one locally. I am in Illinois in a small farming community so I was surprised to find what I have so far. Thanks, and any ideas or info will be appreciated from anyone. Blessings, Draggy peter hurd <swpgh01 wrote: Welcome Dragonspirithealer ? ( come on you must have a more user friendly typing name than that?!) Welcome to the group, ask any questions you like regarding our lifesty;e, we have a couple of fonts of all knowledge and a lot of experiance on here so feel free. From whence do you hail? Glad to here that you are questioning where food comes from and its production/consequences, something that I think more children should be taught at school - might also have a bearing on their spirituality as well. As well as dairy products dont forget that honey is taboo ( unless you can train bees to deliver it to you that is), as a lot of bees are killed in its production, as with silk. Best wishes The Valley Vegan...... DragonSpiritHealer <dragonspirithealer wrote: Greetings All, I wanted to take a moment to introduce myself to this group. Since I am not sure what you might want to know, I will keep it simple. I am 38 years old, in a committed relationship of 13 yrs., and newly turned vegetarian (3 months). I am interested in possibly going vegan and thought this might be a good group to try to get more info. My partner is not so sure about the idea of going vegan, but will let me explore it if I want. I am college educated with concentrations or degrees in Fine Arts - AA, Religion - BA, Mental Health - concentration, Theology/Ethics 21 hr Masters Certificate, Web Technologies/Computers concentration and a MA in Teaching - Elementary Ed. and looking for a teaching job as we speak. I went vegetarian because I was tired of getting sick every time I ate meat. I am not now nor have I ever been a health nut. I need to exercise and loose weight, but am working on liking myself for who I am. I am finding it not that hard at all to be vegetarian and after contemplating what animals go through to provide milk, cheese, and eggs, I am not sure if I really want to keep eating these products. I have also been reading a lot of Buddhist texts and that is also pushing me towards the possibility of going vegan. I am also non-traditional in my faith, which also lends towards a more vegetarian/vegan lifestyle as well. I hope this is enough for an into. I hope to get to know more about veganism through this list. Blessings, Dragonspirithealer Peter H To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Security Centre. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 1, 2005 sweet potatoes are great BUT... they take over the whole garden it looks like English ivy and if you let it it will spread for miles =o]] Craig Introduction Jo, I planted my potatoes this afternoon. I actually planted a sweet potato that was growing in my pantry so that one will be ahead of my russet potato. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 1, 2005 I'll try to make it behave in it's own trash can. Kinda like watermelon and zuchini squash in my garden from years gone by. It was EVERYWHERE!Craig Dearth <cd39 wrote: sweet potatoes are great BUT... they take over the whole garden it looks like English ivy and if you let it it will spread for miles =o]] Craig Introduction Jo, I planted my potatoes this afternoon. I actually planted a sweet potato that was growing in my pantry so that one will be ahead of my russet potato. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 1, 2005 hello christina, willpower is my problem too. i saw some barbeque cornchips shaped in a bowl tonight and i really wanted to eat them as i don't think i've had them in that shape plus the barbequeness of them looked different than other barbeque cornchips i've had (like frito's for example). but i didn't eat them, i thought i would share about it here instead and take some of the power out of it, i'm going to face them again tomorrow night at the same event. don't laugh, these things are serious, it's virtually impossible to take food serious but i really want to, i've been trying to go raw for ten years now and i really want to make it this time. i just have to go through the withdrawal on whatever food item is driving me crazy at the moment. i have to have blind faith to not eat it and eventually the craving will go away although it can take a day or a year, it just depends on the item and how bad my food addiction is over it. i hope this group works for you christina, but bottom line, it's all up to you. you can share what you need to here like i just did, but it's up to you to decide what you're going to eat and what you're not. alright, i had my meeting, i hope to here from some others about food craving. www.rawfoodeaters rich nothing tastes better than raw produce, i have to remember that when i see crinkly, cooked, processed cornchips, etc. regardless of what kind of fascinating color sauce i might see mixed in there. stop laughing. actually cooked processed hard snacks aren't that hard to stay away from, i hope. they're so obviously not tasty, that they shouldn't be that hard to stay away from. so regardless of what the crazies come up with in terms of their cooked food (and i have to allow they're creativity, because they're very creative about it) it's not for me, i'm not going to eat it. rawfood , odelay vato <xinmywayx> wrote: > I figured the best way to get involved in this group is to " jump right in " so I'll start with an introduction. > > My name is Christina, I'm 26, married and the mother of a 2 1/2 yr old son. I have been vegetarian for about 11 years and vegan for about 6 1/2 (give or take a few months). I am no stranger to the raw food diet and I am excited to just hear how other people are making it work for them. I have really wanted to commit to a diet of 80% raw food but I lack one thing, willpower. I swear, nothing is harder for me than skipping a starbucks coffee, not eating 2 bagels in one sitting and then washing it all down with a diet coke and some chinese food. I am hoping by joining this group I can use peoples advice and ideas to incorporate more raw food into my diet and slowly have raw food become the main staple of my life. > > On a side note, I need to drop some serious poundage. Being vegan, as we all know, doesnt mean I am thin and I am struggling alot since having my son with losing weight. Any one who has had any experience of using raw food to assist in weight loss would be very inspiring to me! I need to lose about 80 pounds (gosh, I hate even looking at that number,....). I am, however, not interested in eating raw food, losing weight and going back to my bagel/chinese food diet..I'd like this to stick. > > Thats a couple things about me....Im excited to be apart of this group! > > Christina Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 1, 2005 I plant mine on an outside fence and train the vine up a trellis. Kills two birds with one stone -- I get the sweet potatoes AND I get a decorative trellis. Lynda - Craig Dearth Sunday, July 31, 2005 7:12 PM RE: Introduction sweet potatoes are great BUT... they take over the whole garden it looks like English ivy and if you let it it will spread for miles =o]] Craig Introduction Jo, I planted my potatoes this afternoon. I actually planted a sweet potato that was growing in my pantry so that one will be ahead of my russet potato. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 1, 2005 I agree - very smooth Besides, we can always copy and paste BB Nikki , " Jo Cwazy " <heartwork@c...> wrote: > I like DragonSpiritHealer - it's a chosen name. > > BB > Jo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 1, 2005 Hi Draggy See and I am much more careful about giving out my chosen name than my real one. I figure if they are going to find me, so be it. Though I shouldn't talk to much, I did change my id for security purposes. If you can, see if there is a Trader Joe's near you. I know there is one in Orland Park but not sure if there is one closer to you. They have some great products for vegans and are not expensive! Tofutti makes wonderful soy ice cream, ice cream sandwhiches (called Tofutti Cuties), there are fruit ices you can buy. I would not survive without my soy ice cream! As for eating out, you should be able to find something almost everywhere. Have spaghetti and ask that instead of butter and meat sauce, they use olive oil and garlic. Baked potato and a salad works well too. There are quite a few good Vegan/Vegetarian restaurants in IL, but honestly I do not think any are near where you are. But we'll see what we can find! Nikki , DragonSpiritHealer <dragonspirithealer> wrote: > > Peter, > > > > How about Draggy? That is a shorter name I use. I am just very careful about using my real name on-line. That is why I have two accounts so that I can access different things without worrying about people knowing me. > > > > Thanks for encouraging questions, I do have many. But I am trying to go slow and get a feel for the group before just jumping in. I did get the book Becoming Vegan from my library but have not had a chance to read it yet. I hope to start it this week. > > > > I had fun shopping at the local Kroger yesterday. I went without my partner and ended up getting lots of stuff. I was only going for bread, but came home with fresh veggies, soy milk (partner did not like that), soy margarine (that does not taste bad at all), veggie burgers, and other stuff all of which was vegan or animal product free. However, I was not able to find vegan mayonnaise. I am not sure where to find that. My partner is not sure she will like the vegan stuff, even when I told her about cheese alternatives that I found. Right now we are using up the cheese & yogurt stuff in the house. I am not going to push her into anything. > > > > I am also in an area where there are absolutely no vegetarian places to eat, so when eating out I will most likely end up being vegetarian instead of vegan. But if I am vegan at home as much as I can, that is at least a start. And also a nice balance. I do not want to cause problems with the partner if I don't have to. So we are finding a balance as we go. > > > > The saddest part is no more ice cream once the one in the freezer is finished. Is there a vegan alternative to chocolate chip ice cream? What about yogurt? Is there a soy alternative? I have not found one locally. I am in Illinois in a small farming community so I was surprised to find what I have so far. > > > > Thanks, and any ideas or info will be appreciated from anyone. > > > > Blessings, > > Draggy > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
