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The book " Your Boby's Many Cries for Water " by Fereydoon

Batmanghelidj describes how diabetes and high cholesterol are signs

of chronic dehydration. Drinking coffee and alchohol adds to

dehydration because they are deuretics. He recommends drinking lots

of water throughout the day, not at once, 8 oz at a time with

unpurified sea salt, such as Celtic sea salt. He says the salt is

essential to balance the body and that a diet without sodium is

quote " stupid " .

Be careful about too many fruits as excess sugars in the diet can

cause dehydration and loss of minerals too.

Niz

 

RawSeattle , " rlmftw " <rlmftw> wrote:

> I am sixty years old. I'm semiretired, sort of, and I drive a

school

> bus in Fort Worth, Texas. I've had hypoglycemic episodes and my

> doctor says my cholesterol is high and I need to change my diet or

> I'll soon be diabetic.

>

> I'd like to try totally renouncing the Western diet and sedentary

> lifestyle and trying to eat just fruits and veggies. Is there

anyone

> who could sponsor/mentor me?

>

> I'm trying today to " taper off " by avoiding concentrated sweets.

I'm

> addicted to coffee and hope to quit, but not today.

>

> I'd appreciate some advice and support.

>

> Ron

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>Jeff:

>

>Thanks for the advice, support and Dallas area addresses. I do

>believe that I need to get in touch with a support group to help me

>do this thing. I don't seem to be able to put away the beer, coffee,

>sugar and fat for just one day! I get up at 5:30 a.m. with a new

>resolve, but by 9:30 a.m. I'm having coffee, bacon, eggs, cheese and

>pancakes with butter!

 

As already mentioned, cutting things out in stages may work well. One

thing that may work well to cut out quite a few things in one swoop

is to pick up some vegan products such as breakfast sausage, tofu

scramble and cheese. These are not ideal foods, but if it is what you

need to let go of some " worse " things, then so be it. I used to use

olive oil on pancakes instead of butter. Of course you could stock

your frig with all raw foods if you felt that may work for you.

 

>I perused some of the links you gave me; looked at some of the

>picures of the beautiful people. . . and can't bring myself to walk

>into a potluck or group like that. I have low self-esteem in

>addition to poor mental health.

 

One benefit of potlucks, etc. is that people can offer help and

insight into making raw dishes that help satisfy certain cravings and

keep people raw. There is a lot of valuable knowledge among such

groups. If you wish to just stay with us online, that's fine with us.

Remember, there may be people in groups near you who would like to

help people like yourself, just like others helped them make their

transition. When you are ready, I'm sure they would welcome you!

 

Jeff

 

>If you don't mind, I would like to tell it like it is, anonymously,

>on this web site for a while. Hopefully, until I can get off the

>Western diet and sedentary lifestyle.

>

>Ron

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hey, i wish you luck in going raw, it is very hard in the beginning, but if you

commit to it, it is an absolutly amazing experience. i am almost 16 years old,

and i have been raw for 6 months. it is amazing. a whole new level of life..

and i recommend it in stages also, i was eating chicken and cooked everything

the DAY BEFORE i went fully raw, not really a transition. and if i could do it

again, i would at least go vegan before i went totally raw. i have a very

strong will though, and i wish that for you. just be kind, gentle and allowing.

read, study, and go with it! good luck!

 

in the raw,

```sam```

 

Jeff Rogers <jeff wrote:

>Jeff:

>

>Thanks for the advice, support and Dallas area addresses. I do

>believe that I need to get in touch with a support group to help me

>do this thing. I don't seem to be able to put away the beer, coffee,

>sugar and fat for just one day! I get up at 5:30 a.m. with a new

>resolve, but by 9:30 a.m. I'm having coffee, bacon, eggs, cheese and

>pancakes with butter!

 

As already mentioned, cutting things out in stages may work well. One

thing that may work well to cut out quite a few things in one swoop

is to pick up some vegan products such as breakfast sausage, tofu

scramble and cheese. These are not ideal foods, but if it is what you

need to let go of some " worse " things, then so be it. I used to use

olive oil on pancakes instead of butter. Of course you could stock

your frig with all raw foods if you felt that may work for you.

 

>I perused some of the links you gave me; looked at some of the

>picures of the beautiful people. . . and can't bring myself to walk

>into a potluck or group like that. I have low self-esteem in

>addition to poor mental health.

 

One benefit of potlucks, etc. is that people can offer help and

insight into making raw dishes that help satisfy certain cravings and

keep people raw. There is a lot of valuable knowledge among such

groups. If you wish to just stay with us online, that's fine with us.

Remember, there may be people in groups near you who would like to

help people like yourself, just like others helped them make their

transition. When you are ready, I'm sure they would welcome you!

 

Jeff

 

>If you don't mind, I would like to tell it like it is, anonymously,

>on this web site for a while. Hopefully, until I can get off the

>Western diet and sedentary lifestyle.

>

>Ron

 

 

 

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Thanks, Jeff:

 

I'm using Halloween as my start date. Actually, I've been doing

pretty well since then. I'm using dried beans and whole grains right

now to help me taper off animal products and pastries. I'm off

coffee by using strong tea with milk as a substitute. And I'm eating

raw during the day, with one cooked meal at night, usually of steamed

veggies, raw fruit and soup with no seasoning. I see this as

progress.

 

I do hope to find a mentor that I can keep in touch with off line on

a regular basis because there is so much going on in this group that

I don't even have time to read most of the messages.

 

I'm taking my time about exploring the local raw foods groups.

 

Thanks for your help.

 

Ron McClure

 

RawSeattle , Jeff Rogers <jeff@s...> wrote:

> >Jeff:

> >

> >Thanks for the advice, support and Dallas area addresses. I do

> >believe that I need to get in touch with a support group to help me

> >do this thing. I don't seem to be able to put away the beer,

coffee,

> >sugar and fat for just one day! I get up at 5:30 a.m. with a new

> >resolve, but by 9:30 a.m. I'm having coffee, bacon, eggs, cheese

and

> >pancakes with butter!

>

> As already mentioned, cutting things out in stages may work well.

One

> thing that may work well to cut out quite a few things in one swoop

> is to pick up some vegan products such as breakfast sausage, tofu

> scramble and cheese. These are not ideal foods, but if it is what

you

> need to let go of some " worse " things, then so be it. I used to use

> olive oil on pancakes instead of butter. Of course you could stock

> your frig with all raw foods if you felt that may work for you.

>

> >I perused some of the links you gave me; looked at some of the

> >picures of the beautiful people. . . and can't bring myself to walk

> >into a potluck or group like that. I have low self-esteem in

> >addition to poor mental health.

>

> One benefit of potlucks, etc. is that people can offer help and

> insight into making raw dishes that help satisfy certain cravings

and

> keep people raw. There is a lot of valuable knowledge among such

> groups. If you wish to just stay with us online, that's fine with

us.

> Remember, there may be people in groups near you who would like to

> help people like yourself, just like others helped them make their

> transition. When you are ready, I'm sure they would welcome you!

>

> Jeff

>

> >If you don't mind, I would like to tell it like it is, anonymously,

> >on this web site for a while. Hopefully, until I can get off the

> >Western diet and sedentary lifestyle.

> >

> >Ron

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The question: Can fluff be substituted for marshmellows in candied

yams/sweet potatoes. Someone responded and said it was a bit messier

but could be used. Anyone here have any suggestions? Maybe other

possible alternatives??

 

 

 

I would forgo the marshmallows all together and either eat the sweet

potatoes plain like a regular potato or use brown sugar and

margarine instead.

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Welcome to the list!

 

Yams are yummy with just margarine and brown sugar,

but Vegan marshmallows are available.

 

This link: http://vegetarian.about.com/b/a/037596.htm

 

 

contains links to both Pangea and Vegan Essentials,

both of whom have Vean marshmallows. Unfortunately,

they are quite expensive and were on backorder last

time I checked, but if nothing else will do . . .

 

--- Laurén McNulty <puddleofl0ve wrote:

 

> Someone responded and said it was a bit messier but

> could be used. Anyone here have any suggestions?

> Maybe other possible alternatives??

>

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Welcome to the group! Feel free to search the archives for recipes,

and check out the recipes I just posted, most of them look really

easy! :)

 

-Cherrie

 

 

, Niyati Desai

<niyatid> wrote:

>

> Hi all,

>

> I have just joined this egroup and I am totally new at crockpot

cooking. Could someone please post an easy recipe which I can try to

prepare. :)

>

> Niyati

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Hey thanx, I will definitely check the archives.

I am gonna try the Spanish Rice(u just posted) tomm. Hope it turns out good :)

 

Niyati

 

glitterophelia <glitterophelia wrote:

Welcome to the group! Feel free to search the archives for recipes,

and check out the recipes I just posted, most of them look really

easy! :)

 

-Cherrie

 

 

, Niyati Desai

wrote:

>

> Hi all,

>

> I have just joined this egroup and I am totally new at crockpot

cooking. Could someone please post an easy recipe which I can try to

prepare. :)

>

> Niyati

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If you try it, definitely let us know how it is!!! We love reviews!

hehe

 

-Cherrie

 

 

 

 

, Niyati Desai

<niyatid> wrote:

> Hey thanx, I will definitely check the archives.

> I am gonna try the Spanish Rice(u just posted) tomm. Hope it turns

out good :)

>

> Niyati

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> If you try it, definitely let us know how it is!!! We love reviews!

> hehe

>

> -Cherrie

>

Oh yes, please do! ;=) There are lots of recipes out there, but it is

the ones that have been tried, tweaked perhaps, and then recommended

that are the ones I like to try especially. So much more satisfying than

just picking one out of a book or off the net. I'll look forward to

hearing how it goes!

 

Best luck,

Pat (who is feeling hungry this am)

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Cool! I've also been a vegetarian Karen since 1997 :P Welcome to the

group.

 

karen :)

 

, kleelibby@w... wrote:

> Hey Everyone, I'm new here. Name is Karen and I live in west

central

> Florida. I've been vegetarian since 1997, and working on becoming

> vegan. Glad to meet you all :)

> Karen

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Dear Gina

 

Welcome:-D

 

There is a lot of good information on the net and also many recipes

 

 

A member of this list, recently posted this collection of exelent

rawfoodlinks each having other links atatched.

:http://www.exerciseyourwillpower.com/links.html

 

enjoy

 

lots of love light and wisces for you

 

 

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Here are some places to reconnoiter...

 

groups:

 

rawfoodbeginners/

 

12StepstoRawFood/

 

FreshNetgroup/ (an UK group; with very

supportive, knowledgeable, and loving folks)

 

Harmonious-Living/

 

HallelujahDiet/

 

RawFoodPower/

 

 

 

sites:

 

http://www.shazzie.com/ (shazzie's site has all sorts of great &

personal information for the raw journey; check out the before and after

pictures on this site)

 

http://www.livingnutrition.com/ (lots of interesting articles to read)

 

http://www.living-foods.com/ (more excellent information)

 

http://www.fresh-network.com/ (site for the fresh group)

 

http://www.doctorgraham.cc/ (Doug Graham's site with thought provoking

articles)

 

http://www.hacres.com/ (hallelujah acres site; biblically based

nutrition)

 

 

ShiningStar <bluemoondancer2012 wrote:Hi everyone, glad to be here.

I've been a vegetarian for 15 years,

went macrobiotic for three years about two years ago. Presently I'm

eating dairy products but would like to start a raw food diet as I

feel this is truly what is necessary for total balance with nature

and this is what I am striving for. Any suggestions on how to start

and/or recipes would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thank you,

Gina

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hello Vamut,

There are plenty of raw sites out there that you can find just by

searching for " raw food " and I'm sure other folks on this list will give

you more. I just want to encourage you to hang in there with it. It

takes time for your body to adjust. I've been doing it (not perfectly)

for 2 1/2 years now and you could not pay me enough to ever get me to go

back to cooked food poison! But it wasn't easy at first. I began

having Victoria Botenko's Oat Groat cereal every morning (which some say

isn't totally raw) and eventually worked my way to just having fruit in

the morning and then fruit and salads the rest of the day. What can be

a trap is taking in too much fat in the way of nuts and seeds.

Eventually, you want to have that be only about 10% of your food intake

with the majority being fruit and then greens/salads. Enjoy the

process, it is fun and there are plenty of folks around to support you.

 

Nancy

 

 

vamut [lawbaby]

Wednesday, February 25, 2004 10:08 AM

 

New Member

 

 

Peace. My name is Sa Ra Å Mut and I am a new member. I will be

going on a raw food fasting in April and would like any information

available of helpful websites to assist with the transition as

depending on how my body reacts to it, this may become a permanent

diet. Thanks in advance.

 

 

 

 

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Hi Lisa. Tofutti Sour Supreme (soy sour cream) and Tofutti cream cheese

saved the switch for me. I LOVED my dairy products and I can sub these

two for just about anything. For example, I use a container of the cream

cheese in my lasagna to get a cheesy taste. It's great. Also, Silk makes

a creamer which you can use in place of evaporated milk for making cream

soups.

 

Good luck!!

 

Jaci in NC

 

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> Hello everyone,

>

> I'm currently making the transition from vegetarian to vegan so I'm

> looking

> out for good products and recipes to try. I was really pleased to

> find this

> group!

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I agree, it's not difficult to go from vegetarian to vegan if you can eat

soy products because there are so many substitutes nowadays and they

actually taste good!

 

 

>Jacalyn D Ackerman <jaci_ackerman

>

>

>CC:

>Re: New Member

>Tue, 2 Mar 2004 10:04:49 -0500

>

>Hi Lisa. Tofutti Sour Supreme (soy sour cream) and Tofutti cream cheese

>saved the switch for me. I LOVED my dairy products and I can sub these

>two for just about anything. For example, I use a container of the cream

>cheese in my lasagna to get a cheesy taste. It's great. Also, Silk makes

>a creamer which you can use in place of evaporated milk for making cream

>soups.

>

>Good luck!!

>

>Jaci in NC

>

>On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 16:58:32 +0000 " L A " <hotmagicredplanet

>writes:

> > Hello everyone,

> >

> > I'm currently making the transition from vegetarian to vegan so I'm

> > looking

> > out for good products and recipes to try. I was really pleased to

> > find this

> > group!

> >

> >

> > Lisa

> >

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<<Hi Lisa. Tofutti Sour Supreme (soy sour cream) and Tofutti cream cheese

saved the switch for me. I LOVED my dairy products and I can sub these

two for just about anything. For example, I use a container of the cream

cheese in my lasagna to get a cheesy taste. It's great. Also, Silk makes

a creamer which you can use in place of evaporated milk for making cream

soups.>>

 

Thanks Jaci! This is really helpful because I'm a cheese fanatic and I love

having sour cream with Mexican food. I'll be looking out for these!

 

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welcome and salutations jen

 

alas, unfortunately the calivegan site is mostly spam...

 

anyways,...

keep on educatin yerself...

cheers

fraggle

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Hi Jen

 

Welcome to the list - I hope you enjoy it here. If you have any questions please feel free to ask, and if you want to share your triumphs and concerns, please do so.

 

Jo

 

 

 

I've posted this on the calivegan board as well, so if any of you are members of both, if might be a repeat.

 

I'm a Pasadena resident that has very recently began a quick path towards a vegan dominated lifestyle, under the tutelage of a new friend that is an animal rights activist.

 

I became a vegetarian a few years ago without a clear reason as to why, other than the fact that I never really enjoyed meat, and I worked with a vegan that seemed so healthy and peaceful. However, I didn't go a day without some form of dairy, and often ate far more cheese than I ever had before, subconciously thinking that was my meat "substitute." I was not a healthy vegetarian.

 

Towards the year mark of my vegetarianism, I fell in love with a meat and potatoes guy, and I found myself questioning why I was a vegetarian. I tried cooking veggie for him a couple of times, and he wasn't that into it, so loving to cook as much as I do, I eventually started seguing back into meat eating. That was about two years ago.

 

Now, looking back at the last two years, I recognize there has been a guilt, a malaise, a funk that's been on me, and I can definitely connect it to my deep down moral qualms with the meat industry. What was lacking in my veggie quest from before was education. I was afraid to really delve deeply into what was aptly termed to me recently as the "tragic knowledge" of factory farming and such. Turning a blind eye to the facts made it all too easy for me to continue my meat and cheese based diet that, in retrospect, has been making me physically and mentally ill.

 

Recently, I became friends with a girl that has such a healthy glow about her; such a vibrance; such great skin and clear eyes. After lots of talking and questions from me, I've finally started gaining that tragic knowledge - understanding that the dairy and veal industries go hand-in-hand; understanding the torture that is abundant thrust upon chickens at egg farms, and on and on. Certainly I don't need to convince any of you...

 

For about two weeks now, I've had no meat. The turning point was when I bit into a turkey sub following beginning this new education. I was thinking I would just start cutting back, but found that I felt truly sick to sink my teeth into this processed flesh. I threw the sandwich away and haven't touched meat since.

 

I have had a limited amount of dairy and eggs in this two weeks, but the last couple of days have been completely vegan. I've never felt more excited, vibrant, energized, empowered and healthy in my life. I feel like all of the overeating I've done in my life has been a result of trying to feed a part of me that didn't actually want food. Now I'm hungry in a new way - for education, and opening my eyes. I'm starting to feel satisfied in a way I didn't realize I needed.

 

My life is changing drastically, and for the better, and this is why I'm here. I realize now what was lacking before was a support system. I look forward to gaining knowledge from more experienced vegans. In reality, I don't know that I'm ready to say that I will never allow anything with the slightest meat or dairy derivative to pass through my lips for the rest of my life, but I am ready to make drastic changes in my life that will not only affect me personally, but will doubtless have a huge impact on our environment and taking a stand against attrocities I have spent 29 years in denial over.

 

So, thanks for taking the time to read this, and I look forward to learning, and learning, and learning some more!!!

 

Jen

 

 

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Welcome, Jen!

 

Love,

Anna

 

 

>Jennifer Lankford <jlankford74

>

>

> New Member

>Sun, 7 Mar 2004 13:20:49 -0800 (PST)

>

>Hello there!

>

>I've posted this on the calivegan board as well, so if any of you are

>members of both, if might be a repeat.

>

>I'm a Pasadena resident that has very recently began a quick path towards a

>vegan dominated lifestyle, under the tutelage of a new friend that is an

>animal rights activist.

>

>I became a vegetarian a few years ago without a clear reason as to why,

>other than the fact that I never really enjoyed meat, and I worked with a

>vegan that seemed so healthy and peaceful. However, I didn't go a day

>without some form of dairy, and often ate far more cheese than I ever had

>before, subconciously thinking that was my meat " substitute. " I was not a

>healthy vegetarian.

>

>Towards the year mark of my vegetarianism, I fell in love with a meat and

>potatoes guy, and I found myself questioning why I was a vegetarian. I

>tried cooking veggie for him a couple of times, and he wasn't that into it,

>so loving to cook as much as I do, I eventually started seguing back into

>meat eating. That was about two years ago.

>

>Now, looking back at the last two years, I recognize there has been a

>guilt, a malaise, a funk that's been on me, and I can definitely connect it

>to my deep down moral qualms with the meat industry. What was lacking in

>my veggie quest from before was education. I was afraid to really delve

>deeply into what was aptly termed to me recently as the " tragic knowledge "

>of factory farming and such. Turning a blind eye to the facts made it all

>too easy for me to continue my meat and cheese based diet that, in

>retrospect, has been making me physically and mentally ill.

>

>Recently, I became friends with a girl that has such a healthy glow about

>her; such a vibrance; such great skin and clear eyes. After lots of

>talking and questions from me, I've finally started gaining that tragic

>knowledge - understanding that the dairy and veal industries go

>hand-in-hand; understanding the torture that is abundant thrust upon

>chickens at egg farms, and on and on. Certainly I don't need to convince

>any of you...

>

>For about two weeks now, I've had no meat. The turning point was when I

>bit into a turkey sub following beginning this new education. I was

>thinking I would just start cutting back, but found that I felt truly sick

>to sink my teeth into this processed flesh. I threw the sandwich away and

>haven't touched meat since.

>

>I have had a limited amount of dairy and eggs in this two weeks, but the

>last couple of days have been completely vegan. I've never felt more

>excited, vibrant, energized, empowered and healthy in my life. I feel like

>all of the overeating I've done in my life has been a result of trying to

>feed a part of me that didn't actually want food. Now I'm hungry in a new

>way - for education, and opening my eyes. I'm starting to feel satisfied

>in a way I didn't realize I needed.

>

>My life is changing drastically, and for the better, and this is why I'm

>here. I realize now what was lacking before was a support system. I look

>forward to gaining knowledge from more experienced vegans. In reality, I

>don't know that I'm ready to say that I will never allow anything with the

>slightest meat or dairy derivative to pass through my lips for the rest of

>my life, but I am ready to make drastic changes in my life that will not

>only affect me personally, but will doubtless have a huge impact on our

>environment and taking a stand against attrocities I have spent 29 years in

>denial over.

>

>So, thanks for taking the time to read this, and I look forward to

>learning, and learning, and learning some more!!!

>

>Jen

>

>

>

>

>

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Thanks for the great intro Rebecca. It's great to have you here!

 

Cheers,

Shawn :)

 

, Rebecca

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> Hi There - I've just joined this group and thought I'd introduce

myself. My name is Rebecca, and I live in NY. I've been vegan for

about 2 months now and vegetarian for over 2 years before that. I'm

involved in animal rights, and live with my boyfriend (not yet

vegetarian but trying!) 2 wonderful pugs who are both vegan and a

rabbit and guinea pig who are by nature vegan. Just one animal left in

the house to convert...lol. I enjoy being a part of any discussion on

vegetarianism, veganism, animal rights etc and am glad to be here.

Thank you for having me! -Rebecca

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Excellent! It's great to have you at the group, Luz. If you have any

questions and/or need any good cooking advice, let us know! Do you

have a favorite vegetarian recipe??

 

Shawn :)

 

, " Luz Contreras "

<lancy_angel> wrote:

> Hi everyone!

> My name is Luz, i'm from Mexico and i'm an lacto-vegetarian, i do

> consume eggs, but just those that are from " happy gens " hehehehe.

> I'm not very good at cooking but i try my best and i'd like meet

> people like me and to exchange the few vegetarian recipes i got.

> Go wildlife!

> Luz

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