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Lilly,

 

u have already answered ur own question in many ways.

 

as the leader of the Solar system sun has the key role in effects the other

planets in the system deliver/influence

 

say as Atmakaraka, as the Atman [soul of the chart] shows inheritance, inherited

disorders like cardiac, respiratory, ones

the if there is a family line of activity then it shows the sun placed in trines

to fatgher/son or quadrants in most cases and successful enterprises/professions

cold have it stronger in the 9-11 in their charts with good Dig, shad balas

 

and as u said with other combinations, influences can add/deduct the results of

other bhavas

 

Sun in the st gives a weak constitution and with Budha sttisticall if other

factors prevail one gives up their spouse and if Merc [bidha+ravi [sun] in the

7th the spouse seperates due to divorcenatural reasons like health/death etc.

 

all malefics in 3,6,10,11 are ver good and sun is n o exception in other places

does reduces the effects of the houses

 

say 4th one rarely is comfortable with father, paternal relatives [as 4th

represents the mother and her circles so is a odd entity there]

 

this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological magazines over

the years esp inthe late 80's

 

prashant

 

I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth

data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in

the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside

the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group

for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

/database?method=reportRows & tbl=6

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Lilly <tigresslilly2005

 

Tue, January 12, 2010 7:56:57 AM

Sun's Placement !

 

 

 

Dear Members,

 

Astrology 101 tells us that Sun's placement in a birth chart is extremely

important in determining a person's direction in life.

From what I remember I think it does quite well in 10th house( not too sure

about the other houses).

Although considered a mild malefic, is actually an " auspicious " planet.

The Sun, as the natural atmakarma or soul, gives life force, the power of will,

intellect, brilliance, prosperity, success in worldly affairs, wealth and many

other wonderful things.

However, it is also known that the Sun " burns " and " purifies " the house he sits

in. We already had a discussion earlier of how it may cause divorce/ separation

in 7H(of course the whole chart has to be assessed to get an accurate picture).

Can any member throw some " light " into how exactly does the " burn " and

" purifying " works in a chart?

 

Lilly

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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//this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological magazines over

the years esp in the late 80's//

 

Do you happen to have a link to any of those articles by any chance Prashant Ji?

 

Well, I happen to have Sun(representing father) in 4H and can tell you it does

cause some discomfort sitting in technically a mother's house.. I have a great

father who does love me unconditionally, but we really seem to be at odds with

each other sometimes.

 

 

Lilly

 

 

, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

wrote:

>

> Lilly,

>

> u have already answered ur own question in many ways.

>

> as the leader of the Solar system sun has the key role in effects the other

planets in the system deliver/influence

>

> say as Atmakaraka, as the Atman [soul of the chart] shows inheritance,

inherited disorders like cardiac, respiratory, ones

> the if there is a family line of activity then it shows the sun placed in

trines to fatgher/son or quadrants in most cases and successful

enterprises/professions cold have it stronger in the 9-11 in their charts with

good Dig, shad balas

>

> and as u said with other combinations, influences can add/deduct the results

of other bhavas

>

> Sun in the st gives a weak constitution and with Budha sttisticall if other

factors prevail one gives up their spouse and if Merc [bidha+ravi [sun] in the

7th the spouse seperates due to divorcenatural reasons like health/death etc.

>

> all malefics in 3,6,10,11 are ver good and sun is n o exception in other

places does reduces the effects of the houses

>

> say 4th one rarely is comfortable with father, paternal relatives [as 4th

represents the mother and her circles so is a odd entity there]

>

> this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological magazines over

the years esp inthe late 80's

>

> prashant

>

> I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth

data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in

the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside

the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group

for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

>

/database?method=reportRows & tbl=6

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Lilly <tigresslilly2005

>

> Tue, January 12, 2010 7:56:57 AM

> Sun's Placement !

>

>

>

> Dear Members,

>

> Astrology 101 tells us that Sun's placement in a birth chart is extremely

important in determining a person's direction in life.

> From what I remember I think it does quite well in 10th house( not too sure

about the other houses).

> Although considered a mild malefic, is actually an " auspicious " planet.

> The Sun, as the natural atmakarma or soul, gives life force, the power of

will, intellect, brilliance, prosperity, success in worldly affairs, wealth and

many other wonderful things.

> However, it is also known that the Sun " burns " and " purifies " the house he

sits in. We already had a discussion earlier of how it may cause divorce/

separation in 7H(of course the whole chart has to be assessed to get an accurate

picture).

> Can any member throw some " light " into how exactly does the " burn " and

" purifying " works in a chart?

>

> Lilly

>

 

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Lilly,

 

well there is no such database yet as these r pre-Info tech days and pre-NET

days too BUT HAD SUGGESTED THIS IDEA TO THE THEN editor IN CHIEF GAYATHRI DAVEI

VASUDEV who did agree like the idea the setp up has changed inthe magazine now

and her brothers have taken over

not surte of their interest in this BUT the new avatar of the magazine is

eastrologicalmagazine.com so u can write to them

 

this is the MODERN ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZINE run by her

publicationsagrany;

 

and one run by her brothers is

 

Niranjan Babu B <cru115

 

 

----

G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

/database?method=reportRows & tbl=6

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Lilly <tigresslilly2005

 

Tue, January 12, 2010 3:22:15 PM

Re: Sun's Placement ! 12/1

 

 

 

 

//this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological magazines over

the years esp in the late 80's//

 

Do you happen to have a link to any of those articles by any chance Prashant Ji?

 

Well, I happen to have Sun(representing father) in 4H and can tell you it does

cause some discomfort sitting in technically a mother's house.. I have a great

father who does love me unconditionally, but we really seem to be at odds with

each other sometimes.

 

Lilly

 

, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@. ..>

wrote:

>

> Lilly,

>

> u have already answered ur own question in many ways.

>

> as the leader of the Solar system sun has the key role in effects the other

planets in the system deliver/influence

>

> say as Atmakaraka, as the Atman [soul of the chart] shows inheritance,

inherited disorders like cardiac, respiratory, ones

> the if there is a family line of activity then it shows the sun placed in

trines to fatgher/son or quadrants in most cases and successful enterprises/

professions cold have it stronger in the 9-11 in their charts with good Dig,

shad balas

>

> and as u said with other combinations, influences can add/deduct the results

of other bhavas

>

> Sun in the st gives a weak constitution and with Budha sttisticall if other

factors prevail one gives up their spouse and if Merc [bidha+ravi [sun] in the

7th the spouse seperates due to divorcenatural reasons like health/death etc.

>

> all malefics in 3,6,10,11 are ver good and sun is n o exception in other

places does reduces the effects of the houses

>

> say 4th one rarely is comfortable with father, paternal relatives [as 4th

represents the mother and her circles so is a odd entity there]

>

> this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological magazines over

the years esp inthe late 80's

>

> prashant

>

> I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth

data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in

the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside

the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group

for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow

s & tbl=6

>

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...>

>

> Tue, January 12, 2010 7:56:57 AM

> Sun's Placement !

>

>

>

> Dear Members,

>

> Astrology 101 tells us that Sun's placement in a birth chart is extremely

important in determining a person's direction in life.

> From what I remember I think it does quite well in 10th house( not too sure

about the other houses).

> Although considered a mild malefic, is actually an " auspicious " planet.

> The Sun, as the natural atmakarma or soul, gives life force, the power of

will, intellect, brilliance, prosperity, success in worldly affairs, wealth and

many other wonderful things.

> However, it is also known that the Sun " burns " and " purifies " the house he

sits in. We already had a discussion earlier of how it may cause divorce/

separation in 7H(of course the whole chart has to be assessed to get an accurate

picture).

> Can any member throw some " light " into how exactly does the " burn " and

" purifying " works in a chart?

>

> Lilly

>

 

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Find a chart which has the same ascendant as you with sun in 4th but saturn not

in cancer but elsewhere not making any association with sun and compare notes

about that person's relationship with his or her father :-)

 

RR_,

 

, " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 wrote:

>

>

>

> //this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological magazines

over the years esp in the late 80's//

>

> Do you happen to have a link to any of those articles by any chance Prashant

Ji?

>

> Well, I happen to have Sun(representing father) in 4H and can tell you it does

cause some discomfort sitting in technically a mother's house.. I have a great

father who does love me unconditionally, but we really seem to be at odds with

each other sometimes.

>

>

> Lilly

>

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@>

wrote:

> >

> > Lilly,

> >

> > u have already answered ur own question in many ways.

> >

> > as the leader of the Solar system sun has the key role in effects the other

planets in the system deliver/influence

> >

> > say as Atmakaraka, as the Atman [soul of the chart] shows inheritance,

inherited disorders like cardiac, respiratory, ones

> > the if there is a family line of activity then it shows the sun placed in

trines to fatgher/son or quadrants in most cases and successful

enterprises/professions cold have it stronger in the 9-11 in their charts with

good Dig, shad balas

> >

> > and as u said with other combinations, influences can add/deduct the results

of other bhavas

> >

> > Sun in the st gives a weak constitution and with Budha sttisticall if other

factors prevail one gives up their spouse and if Merc [bidha+ravi [sun] in the

7th the spouse seperates due to divorcenatural reasons like health/death etc.

> >

> > all malefics in 3,6,10,11 are ver good and sun is n o exception in other

places does reduces the effects of the houses

> >

> > say 4th one rarely is comfortable with father, paternal relatives [as 4th

represents the mother and her circles so is a odd entity there]

> >

> > this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological magazines

over the years esp inthe late 80's

> >

> > prashant

> >

> > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth

data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in

the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside

the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group

for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> >

/database?method=reportRows & tbl=6

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@>

> >

> > Tue, January 12, 2010 7:56:57 AM

> > Sun's Placement !

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Members,

> >

> > Astrology 101 tells us that Sun's placement in a birth chart is extremely

important in determining a person's direction in life.

> > From what I remember I think it does quite well in 10th house( not too sure

about the other houses).

> > Although considered a mild malefic, is actually an " auspicious " planet.

> > The Sun, as the natural atmakarma or soul, gives life force, the power of

will, intellect, brilliance, prosperity, success in worldly affairs, wealth and

many other wonderful things.

> > However, it is also known that the Sun " burns " and " purifies " the house he

sits in. We already had a discussion earlier of how it may cause divorce/

separation in 7H(of course the whole chart has to be assessed to get an accurate

picture).

> > Can any member throw some " light " into how exactly does the " burn " and

" purifying " works in a chart?

> >

> > Lilly

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Yes it is sad! Those very people who spend time OCRing classics and uploading

those online as pirated edition (some with personally-doctored meanings!) should

have spent their time in OCRing tables of contents from AM or Times of Astrology

etc. Would have been a much better service to Jyotish :-)

 

It is a shame that the articles could not be OCRed due to copyright issues and

now we all are hostage to poor archiving and family feud!

 

RR_,

 

, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

wrote:

>

> Lilly,

>

> well there is no such database yet as these r pre-Info tech days and pre-NET

days too BUT HAD SUGGESTED THIS IDEA TO THE THEN editor IN CHIEF GAYATHRI DAVEI

VASUDEV who did agree like the idea the setp up has changed inthe magazine now

and her brothers have taken over

> not surte of their interest in this BUT the new avatar of the magazine is

> eastrologicalmagazine.com so u can write to them

>

> this is the MODERN ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZINE run by her

> publicationsagrany;

>

> and one run by her brothers is

>

> Niranjan Babu B <cru115

>

>

> ----

> G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

>

/database?method=reportRows & tbl=6

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Lilly <tigresslilly2005

>

> Tue, January 12, 2010 3:22:15 PM

> Re: Sun's Placement ! 12/1

>

>

>

>

> //this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological magazines

over the years esp in the late 80's//

>

> Do you happen to have a link to any of those articles by any chance Prashant

Ji?

>

> Well, I happen to have Sun(representing father) in 4H and can tell you it does

cause some discomfort sitting in technically a mother's house.. I have a great

father who does love me unconditionally, but we really seem to be at odds with

each other sometimes.

>

> Lilly

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ..>

wrote:

> >

> > Lilly,

> >

> > u have already answered ur own question in many ways.

> >

> > as the leader of the Solar system sun has the key role in effects the other

planets in the system deliver/influence

> >

> > say as Atmakaraka, as the Atman [soul of the chart] shows inheritance,

inherited disorders like cardiac, respiratory, ones

> > the if there is a family line of activity then it shows the sun placed in

trines to fatgher/son or quadrants in most cases and successful enterprises/

professions cold have it stronger in the 9-11 in their charts with good Dig,

shad balas

> >

> > and as u said with other combinations, influences can add/deduct the results

of other bhavas

> >

> > Sun in the st gives a weak constitution and with Budha sttisticall if other

factors prevail one gives up their spouse and if Merc [bidha+ravi [sun] in the

7th the spouse seperates due to divorcenatural reasons like health/death etc.

> >

> > all malefics in 3,6,10,11 are ver good and sun is n o exception in other

places does reduces the effects of the houses

> >

> > say 4th one rarely is comfortable with father, paternal relatives [as 4th

represents the mother and her circles so is a odd entity there]

> >

> > this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological magazines

over the years esp inthe late 80's

> >

> > prashant

> >

> > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth

data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in

the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside

the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group

for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...>

> >

> > Tue, January 12, 2010 7:56:57 AM

> > Sun's Placement !

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Members,

> >

> > Astrology 101 tells us that Sun's placement in a birth chart is extremely

important in determining a person's direction in life.

> > From what I remember I think it does quite well in 10th house( not too sure

about the other houses).

> > Although considered a mild malefic, is actually an " auspicious " planet.

> > The Sun, as the natural atmakarma or soul, gives life force, the power of

will, intellect, brilliance, prosperity, success in worldly affairs, wealth and

many other wonderful things.

> > However, it is also known that the Sun " burns " and " purifies " the house he

sits in. We already had a discussion earlier of how it may cause divorce/

separation in 7H(of course the whole chart has to be assessed to get an accurate

picture).

> > Can any member throw some " light " into how exactly does the " burn " and

" purifying " works in a chart?

> >

> > Lilly

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear RRji, Lilly

 

a v good point-distinction

 

ravi+sani [sun+satn] aspect, conjunction anywhere does add to such a situation

as u have hinted and Lilly must note the same too as they r enemies though

father-sun in the Graha kutumba[ the celestial bodies family]

 

invariable this combination does give fracture or bone disorders as well apart

from poor relationship with father at times if good may live apart say in

hostals, relatives, friends or professionally they will be made to stay away

from one another

 

a case in point 22/2/59, 6.35 am, chennai

 

father lived in Gulf for 17 yrs and overall relationship is v good between the

father son.

here sun +merc r inAsc and he seperated from his wife after putting a lot of

effort in saving his marriage when it went beyond his toleanc limits a very

calm, composed gentleman.

 

prashant

 

- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

/database?method=reportRows & tbl=6

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

 

Tue, January 12, 2010 5:31:49 PM

Re: Sun's Placement ! 12/1

 

 

Find a chart which has the same ascendant as you with sun in 4th but saturn not

in cancer but elsewhere not making any association with sun and compare notes

about that person's relationship with his or her father :-)

 

RR_,

 

, " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...>

wrote:

>

>

>

> //this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological magazines

over the years esp in the late 80's//

>

> Do you happen to have a link to any of those articles by any chance Prashant

Ji?

>

> Well, I happen to have Sun(representing father) in 4H and can tell you it does

cause some discomfort sitting in technically a mother's house.. I have a great

father who does love me unconditionally, but we really seem to be at odds with

each other sometimes.

>

>

> Lilly

>

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@>

wrote:

> >

> > Lilly,

> >

> > u have already answered ur own question in many ways.

> >

> > as the leader of the Solar system sun has the key role in effects the other

planets in the system deliver/influence

> >

> > say as Atmakaraka, as the Atman [soul of the chart] shows inheritance,

inherited disorders like cardiac, respiratory, ones

> > the if there is a family line of activity then it shows the sun placed in

trines to fatgher/son or quadrants in most cases and successful enterprises/

professions cold have it stronger in the 9-11 in their charts with good Dig,

shad balas

> >

> > and as u said with other combinations, influences can add/deduct the results

of other bhavas

> >

> > Sun in the st gives a weak constitution and with Budha sttisticall if other

factors prevail one gives up their spouse and if Merc [bidha+ravi [sun] in the

7th the spouse seperates due to divorcenatural reasons like health/death etc.

> >

> > all malefics in 3,6,10,11 are ver good and sun is n o exception in other

places does reduces the effects of the houses

> >

> > say 4th one rarely is comfortable with father, paternal relatives [as 4th

represents the mother and her circles so is a odd entity there]

> >

> > this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological magazines

over the years esp inthe late 80's

> >

> > prashant

> >

> > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth

data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in

the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside

the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group

for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ >

> >

> > Tue, January 12, 2010 7:56:57 AM

> > Sun's Placement !

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Members,

> >

> > Astrology 101 tells us that Sun's placement in a birth chart is extremely

important in determining a person's direction in life.

> > From what I remember I think it does quite well in 10th house( not too sure

about the other houses).

> > Although considered a mild malefic, is actually an " auspicious " planet.

> > The Sun, as the natural atmakarma or soul, gives life force, the power of

will, intellect, brilliance, prosperity, success in worldly affairs, wealth and

many other wonderful things.

> > However, it is also known that the Sun " burns " and " purifies " the house he

sits in. We already had a discussion earlier of how it may cause divorce/

separation in 7H(of course the whole chart has to be assessed to get an accurate

picture).

> > Can any member throw some " light " into how exactly does the " burn " and

" purifying " works in a chart?

> >

> > Lilly

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Members.

Certainly this is miscommunicated issue.A.M data base was very much kept in

archieves by M/S raman Publications.This treasure was also taken over under the

custody of ICAS library.

The role of brother is about eAstrological Magazine commenced from July2009 in

which mebership si ope,

where as Argany Publications Modern Astrological magazine through Argany

Publication is under the stewardship of Mrs gaytri Vasudev.Most of family

affairs of late ramans family are now getting sorted out.It is now a question of

time.ICAS ,banglore deemed university is a trust and has the blessings of this

family as a whole.

 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Tue, 1/12/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote:

 

 

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

Re: Sun's Placement ! 12/1

 

Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 7:05 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes it is sad! Those very people who spend time OCRing classics and uploading

those online as pirated edition (some with personally-doctored meanings!) should

have spent their time in OCRing tables of contents from AM or Times of Astrology

etc. Would have been a much better service to Jyotish :-)

 

It is a shame that the articles could not be OCRed due to copyright issues and

now we all are hostage to poor archiving and family feud!

 

RR_,

 

, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@. ...>

wrote:

>

> Lilly,

>

> well there is no such database yet as these r pre-Info tech days and pre-NET

days too BUT HAD SUGGESTED THIS IDEA TO THE THEN editor IN CHIEF GAYATHRI DAVEI

VASUDEV who did agree like the idea the setp up has changed inthe magazine now

and her brothers have taken over

> not surte of their interest in this BUT the new avatar of the magazine is

> eastrologicalmagazi ne.com so u can write to them

>

> this is the MODERN ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZINE run by her

> publicationsagrany@ ...;

>

> and one run by her brothers is

>

> Niranjan Babu B <cru115

>

>

> ----

> G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow

s & tbl=6

>

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...>

>

> Tue, January 12, 2010 3:22:15 PM

> Re: Sun's Placement ! 12/1

>

>

>

>

> //this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological magazines

over the years esp in the late 80's//

>

> Do you happen to have a link to any of those articles by any chance Prashant

Ji?

>

> Well, I happen to have Sun(representing father) in 4H and can tell you it does

cause some discomfort sitting in technically a mother's house.. I have a great

father who does love me unconditionally, but we really seem to be at odds with

each other sometimes.

>

> Lilly

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ..>

wrote:

> >

> > Lilly,

> >

> > u have already answered ur own question in many ways.

> >

> > as the leader of the Solar system sun has the key role in effects the other

planets in the system deliver/influence

> >

> > say as Atmakaraka, as the Atman [soul of the chart] shows inheritance,

inherited disorders like cardiac, respiratory, ones

> > the if there is a family line of activity then it shows the sun placed in

trines to fatgher/son or quadrants in most cases and successful enterprises/

professions cold have it stronger in the 9-11 in their charts with good Dig,

shad balas

> >

> > and as u said with other combinations, influences can add/deduct the results

of other bhavas

> >

> > Sun in the st gives a weak constitution and with Budha sttisticall if other

factors prevail one gives up their spouse and if Merc [bidha+ravi [sun] in the

7th the spouse seperates due to divorcenatural reasons like health/death etc.

> >

> > all malefics in 3,6,10,11 are ver good and sun is n o exception in other

places does reduces the effects of the houses

> >

> > say 4th one rarely is comfortable with father, paternal relatives [as 4th

represents the mother and her circles so is a odd entity there]

> >

> > this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological magazines

over the years esp inthe late 80's

> >

> > prashant

> >

> > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth

data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in

the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside

the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group

for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...>

> >

> > Tue, January 12, 2010 7:56:57 AM

> > Sun's Placement !

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Members,

> >

> > Astrology 101 tells us that Sun's placement in a birth chart is extremely

important in determining a person's direction in life.

> > From what I remember I think it does quite well in 10th house( not too sure

about the other houses).

> > Although considered a mild malefic, is actually an " auspicious " planet.

> > The Sun, as the natural atmakarma or soul, gives life force, the power of

will, intellect, brilliance, prosperity, success in worldly affairs, wealth and

many other wonderful things.

> > However, it is also known that the Sun " burns " and " purifies " the house he

sits in. We already had a discussion earlier of how it may cause divorce/

separation in 7H(of course the whole chart has to be assessed to get an accurate

picture).

> > Can any member throw some " light " into how exactly does the " burn " and

" purifying " works in a chart?

> >

> > Lilly

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Krishna ji

 

well ur msg sounds more soothing and reliving that they r coming out of the dark

phase for the good of the astrological family themselves and thus the world of

astrologers at large the biggest contrubutors to the subject for at least 4

generations. earlier it happens the better

 

let us hope the material becomes public for all.

 

 

..- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

/database?method=reportRows & tbl=6

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99

 

Tue, January 12, 2010 10:49:56 PM

Re: Sun's Placement ! 12/1

 

 

Dear Members.

Certainly this is miscommunicated issue.A.M data base was very much kept in

archieves by M/S raman Publications. This treasure was also taken over under the

custody of ICAS library.

The role of brother is about eAstrological Magazine commenced from July2009 in

which mebership si ope,

where as Argany Publications Modern Astrological magazine through Argany

Publication is under the stewardship of Mrs gaytri Vasudev.Most of family

affairs of late ramans family are now getting sorted out.It is now a question of

time.ICAS ,banglore deemed university is a trust and has the blessings of this

family as a whole.

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Tue, 1/12/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> wrote:

 

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

Re: Sun's Placement ! 12/1

 

Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 7:05 AM

 

 

 

Yes it is sad! Those very people who spend time OCRing classics and uploading

those online as pirated edition (some with personally-doctored meanings!) should

have spent their time in OCRing tables of contents from AM or Times of Astrology

etc. Would have been a much better service to Jyotish :-)

 

It is a shame that the articles could not be OCRed due to copyright issues and

now we all are hostage to poor archiving and family feud!

 

RR_,

 

, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@. ...>

wrote:

>

> Lilly,

>

> well there is no such database yet as these r pre-Info tech days and pre-NET

days too BUT HAD SUGGESTED THIS IDEA TO THE THEN editor IN CHIEF GAYATHRI DAVEI

VASUDEV who did agree like the idea the setp up has changed inthe magazine now

and her brothers have taken over

> not surte of their interest in this BUT the new avatar of the magazine is

> eastrologicalmagazi ne.com so u can write to them

>

> this is the MODERN ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZINE run by her

> publicationsagrany@ ...;

>

> and one run by her brothers is

>

> Niranjan Babu B <cru115

>

>

> ----

> G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow

s & tbl=6

>

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...>

>

> Tue, January 12, 2010 3:22:15 PM

> Re: Sun's Placement ! 12/1

>

>

>

>

> //this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological magazines

over the years esp in the late 80's//

>

> Do you happen to have a link to any of those articles by any chance Prashant

Ji?

>

> Well, I happen to have Sun(representing father) in 4H and can tell you it does

cause some discomfort sitting in technically a mother's house.. I have a great

father who does love me unconditionally, but we really seem to be at odds with

each other sometimes.

>

> Lilly

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ..>

wrote:

> >

> > Lilly,

> >

> > u have already answered ur own question in many ways.

> >

> > as the leader of the Solar system sun has the key role in effects the other

planets in the system deliver/influence

> >

> > say as Atmakaraka, as the Atman [soul of the chart] shows inheritance,

inherited disorders like cardiac, respiratory, ones

> > the if there is a family line of activity then it shows the sun placed in

trines to fatgher/son or quadrants in most cases and successful enterprises/

professions cold have it stronger in the 9-11 in their charts with good Dig,

shad balas

> >

> > and as u said with other combinations, influences can add/deduct the results

of other bhavas

> >

> > Sun in the st gives a weak constitution and with Budha sttisticall if other

factors prevail one gives up their spouse and if Merc [bidha+ravi [sun] in the

7th the spouse seperates due to divorcenatural reasons like health/death etc.

> >

> > all malefics in 3,6,10,11 are ver good and sun is n o exception in other

places does reduces the effects of the houses

> >

> > say 4th one rarely is comfortable with father, paternal relatives [as 4th

represents the mother and her circles so is a odd entity there]

> >

> > this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological magazines

over the years esp inthe late 80's

> >

> > prashant

> >

> > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth

data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in

the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside

the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group

for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...>

> >

> > Tue, January 12, 2010 7:56:57 AM

> > Sun's Placement !

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Members,

> >

> > Astrology 101 tells us that Sun's placement in a birth chart is extremely

important in determining a person's direction in life.

> > From what I remember I think it does quite well in 10th house( not too sure

about the other houses).

> > Although considered a mild malefic, is actually an " auspicious " planet.

> > The Sun, as the natural atmakarma or soul, gives life force, the power of

will, intellect, brilliance, prosperity, success in worldly affairs, wealth and

many other wonderful things.

> > However, it is also known that the Sun " burns " and " purifies " the house he

sits in. We already had a discussion earlier of how it may cause divorce/

separation in 7H(of course the whole chart has to be assessed to get an accurate

picture).

> > Can any member throw some " light " into how exactly does the " burn " and

" purifying " works in a chart?

> >

> > Lilly

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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//invariable this combination does give fracture or bone disorders as well apart

from poor relationship with father at times if good may live apart say in

hostals, relatives, friends or professionally they will be made to stay away

from one another//

 

Well, So far I have neither had any fracture, or any bone disorders(knock on

wood!)..However, I do occasionally get muscle spasms/back pains(poor posture),

headaches etc.

I have always lived with my father for most of my live, and still do! Never

lived in a hostel, or with relatives, except in my childhood we had a joined

family with grandparents, aunts, uncles and everyone around.

Relationship is a two way street and there is always a limit to how much

responsibilities a man can take..When a man has to provide for his family and at

the same time also play a dual role of both mother and father some areas of life

is bound to suffer.

 

Lilly

 

 

 

, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

wrote:

>

> Dear RRji, Lilly

>

> a v good point-distinction

>

> ravi+sani [sun+satn] aspect, conjunction anywhere does add to such a situation

as u have hinted and Lilly must note the same too as they r enemies though

father-sun in the Graha kutumba[ the celestial bodies family]

>

> invariable this combination does give fracture or bone disorders as well apart

from poor relationship with father at times if good may live apart say in

hostals, relatives, friends or professionally they will be made to stay away

from one another

>

> a case in point 22/2/59, 6.35 am, chennai

>

> father lived in Gulf for 17 yrs and overall relationship is v good between the

father son.

> here sun +merc r inAsc and he seperated from his wife after putting a lot of

effort in saving his marriage when it went beyond his toleanc limits a very

calm, composed gentleman.

>

> prashant

>

> - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

>

/database?method=reportRows & tbl=6

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

>

> Tue, January 12, 2010 5:31:49 PM

> Re: Sun's Placement ! 12/1

>

>

> Find a chart which has the same ascendant as you with sun in 4th but saturn

not in cancer but elsewhere not making any association with sun and compare

notes about that person's relationship with his or her father :-)

>

> RR_,

>

> , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...>

wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > //this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological magazines

over the years esp in the late 80's//

> >

> > Do you happen to have a link to any of those articles by any chance Prashant

Ji?

> >

> > Well, I happen to have Sun(representing father) in 4H and can tell you it

does cause some discomfort sitting in technically a mother's house.. I have a

great father who does love me unconditionally, but we really seem to be at odds

with each other sometimes.

> >

> >

> > Lilly

> >

> >

> > , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Lilly,

> > >

> > > u have already answered ur own question in many ways.

> > >

> > > as the leader of the Solar system sun has the key role in effects the

other planets in the system deliver/influence

> > >

> > > say as Atmakaraka, as the Atman [soul of the chart] shows inheritance,

inherited disorders like cardiac, respiratory, ones

> > > the if there is a family line of activity then it shows the sun placed in

trines to fatgher/son or quadrants in most cases and successful enterprises/

professions cold have it stronger in the 9-11 in their charts with good Dig,

shad balas

> > >

> > > and as u said with other combinations, influences can add/deduct the

results of other bhavas

> > >

> > > Sun in the st gives a weak constitution and with Budha sttisticall if

other factors prevail one gives up their spouse and if Merc [bidha+ravi [sun] in

the 7th the spouse seperates due to divorcenatural reasons like health/death

etc.

> > >

> > > all malefics in 3,6,10,11 are ver good and sun is n o exception in other

places does reduces the effects of the houses

> > >

> > > say 4th one rarely is comfortable with father, paternal relatives [as 4th

represents the mother and her circles so is a odd entity there]

> > >

> > > this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological magazines

over the years esp inthe late 80's

> > >

> > > prashant

> > >

> > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from

non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur

birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures

folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder.

Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ >

> > >

> > > Tue, January 12, 2010 7:56:57 AM

> > > Sun's Placement !

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Members,

> > >

> > > Astrology 101 tells us that Sun's placement in a birth chart is extremely

important in determining a person's direction in life.

> > > From what I remember I think it does quite well in 10th house( not too

sure about the other houses).

> > > Although considered a mild malefic, is actually an " auspicious " planet.

> > > The Sun, as the natural atmakarma or soul, gives life force, the power of

will, intellect, brilliance, prosperity, success in worldly affairs, wealth and

many other wonderful things.

> > > However, it is also known that the Sun " burns " and " purifies " the house he

sits in. We already had a discussion earlier of how it may cause divorce/

separation in 7H(of course the whole chart has to be assessed to get an accurate

picture).

> > > Can any member throw some " light " into how exactly does the " burn " and

" purifying " works in a chart?

> > >

> > > Lilly

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Lily

 

as said by u also there r other factors that add or deduct the possible scene in

case no accident combinations r not there no injuries

 

similalry if sun is not in Asc or 4 or 6th over all health can be better.

 

but as said these r stats with some research by some good astgros of the past

golden era of astrologers

 

 

e.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

/database?method=reportRows & tbl=6

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Lilly <tigresslilly2005

 

Tue, January 12, 2010 11:37:52 PM

Re: Sun's Placement ! 12/1

 

 

 

//invariable this combination does give fracture or bone disorders as well apart

from poor relationship with father at times if good may live apart say in

hostals, relatives, friends or professionally they will be made to stay away

from one another//

 

Well, So far I have neither had any fracture, or any bone disorders(knock on

wood!)..However, I do occasionally get muscle spasms/back pains(poor posture),

headaches etc.

I have always lived with my father for most of my live, and still do! Never

lived in a hostel, or with relatives, except in my childhood we had a joined

family with grandparents, aunts, uncles and everyone around.

Relationship is a two way street and there is always a limit to how much

responsibilities a man can take..When a man has to provide for his family and at

the same time also play a dual role of both mother and father some areas of life

is bound to suffer.

 

Lilly

 

, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@. ..>

wrote:

>

> Dear RRji, Lilly

>

> a v good point-distinction

>

> ravi+sani [sun+satn] aspect, conjunction anywhere does add to such a situation

as u have hinted and Lilly must note the same too as they r enemies though

father-sun in the Graha kutumba[ the celestial bodies family]

>

> invariable this combination does give fracture or bone disorders as well apart

from poor relationship with father at times if good may live apart say in

hostals, relatives, friends or professionally they will be made to stay away

from one another

>

> a case in point 22/2/59, 6.35 am, chennai

>

> father lived in Gulf for 17 yrs and overall relationship is v good between the

father son.

> here sun +merc r inAsc and he seperated from his wife after putting a lot of

effort in saving his marriage when it went beyond his toleanc limits a very

calm, composed gentleman.

>

> prashant

>

> - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow

s & tbl=6

>

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

>

> Tue, January 12, 2010 5:31:49 PM

> Re: Sun's Placement ! 12/1

>

>

> Find a chart which has the same ascendant as you with sun in 4th but saturn

not in cancer but elsewhere not making any association with sun and compare

notes about that person's relationship with his or her father :-)

>

> RR_,

>

> , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...>

wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > //this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological magazines

over the years esp in the late 80's//

> >

> > Do you happen to have a link to any of those articles by any chance Prashant

Ji?

> >

> > Well, I happen to have Sun(representing father) in 4H and can tell you it

does cause some discomfort sitting in technically a mother's house.. I have a

great father who does love me unconditionally, but we really seem to be at odds

with each other sometimes.

> >

> >

> > Lilly

> >

> >

> > , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Lilly,

> > >

> > > u have already answered ur own question in many ways.

> > >

> > > as the leader of the Solar system sun has the key role in effects the

other planets in the system deliver/influence

> > >

> > > say as Atmakaraka, as the Atman [soul of the chart] shows inheritance,

inherited disorders like cardiac, respiratory, ones

> > > the if there is a family line of activity then it shows the sun placed in

trines to fatgher/son or quadrants in most cases and successful enterprises/

professions cold have it stronger in the 9-11 in their charts with good Dig,

shad balas

> > >

> > > and as u said with other combinations, influences can add/deduct the

results of other bhavas

> > >

> > > Sun in the st gives a weak constitution and with Budha sttisticall if

other factors prevail one gives up their spouse and if Merc [bidha+ravi [sun] in

the 7th the spouse seperates due to divorcenatural reasons like health/death

etc.

> > >

> > > all malefics in 3,6,10,11 are ver good and sun is n o exception in other

places does reduces the effects of the houses

> > >

> > > say 4th one rarely is comfortable with father, paternal relatives [as 4th

represents the mother and her circles so is a odd entity there]

> > >

> > > this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological magazines

over the years esp inthe late 80's

> > >

> > > prashant

> > >

> > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from

non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur

birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures

folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder.

Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ >

> > >

> > > Tue, January 12, 2010 7:56:57 AM

> > > Sun's Placement !

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Members,

> > >

> > > Astrology 101 tells us that Sun's placement in a birth chart is extremely

important in determining a person's direction in life.

> > > From what I remember I think it does quite well in 10th house( not too

sure about the other houses).

> > > Although considered a mild malefic, is actually an " auspicious " planet.

> > > The Sun, as the natural atmakarma or soul, gives life force, the power of

will, intellect, brilliance, prosperity, success in worldly affairs, wealth and

many other wonderful things.

> > > However, it is also known that the Sun " burns " and " purifies " the house he

sits in. We already had a discussion earlier of how it may cause divorce/

separation in 7H(of course the whole chart has to be assessed to get an accurate

picture).

> > > Can any member throw some " light " into how exactly does the " burn " and

" purifying " works in a chart?

> > >

> > > Lilly

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Dear Lilly,

 

if I may.

 

//When a man has to provide for his family and at the same time also play a dual

role of both mother and father some areas of life is bound to suffer.//

 

The indicators of Mother and Father come together in many ways in your chart.

For example Sun the natural karak for father, placed in the 4th house of Mother

is also the chara MatriKarak. The 4th lord Saturn is placed in the 9th house of

father. The 9th lord is none other than Moon, the natural Karak for Mother, so

well placed in the 5th, in the star of your AtmaKarak Mercury.

 

Chara MatriKarak placed in the house it represents could indicate difficult

experiences related to the mother in a worldly way.

 

I have no Jyotish experience - just trying to learn. But wondering if this

coming together of the indicators of the Father and the Mother could be a great

spiritual opportunity in this lifetime – to experience the ONE and ONLY parent –

GOD!!

 

Regards,

Nandini

 

 

, " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 wrote:

>

>

> //invariable this combination does give fracture or bone disorders as well

apart from poor relationship with father at times if good may live apart say in

hostals, relatives, friends or professionally they will be made to stay away

from one another//

>

> Well, So far I have neither had any fracture, or any bone disorders(knock on

wood!)..However, I do occasionally get muscle spasms/back pains(poor posture),

headaches etc.

> I have always lived with my father for most of my live, and still do! Never

lived in a hostel, or with relatives, except in my childhood we had a joined

family with grandparents, aunts, uncles and everyone around.

> Relationship is a two way street and there is always a limit to how much

responsibilities a man can take..When a man has to provide for his family and at

the same time also play a dual role of both mother and father some areas of life

is bound to suffer.

>

> Lilly

>

>

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear RRji, Lilly

> >

> > a v good point-distinction

> >

> > ravi+sani [sun+satn] aspect, conjunction anywhere does add to such a

situation as u have hinted and Lilly must note the same too as they r enemies

though father-sun in the Graha kutumba[ the celestial bodies family]

> >

> > invariable this combination does give fracture or bone disorders as well

apart from poor relationship with father at times if good may live apart say in

hostals, relatives, friends or professionally they will be made to stay away

from one another

> >

> > a case in point 22/2/59, 6.35 am, chennai

> >

> > father lived in Gulf for 17 yrs and overall relationship is v good between

the father son.

> > here sun +merc r inAsc and he seperated from his wife after putting a lot of

effort in saving his marriage when it went beyond his toleanc limits a very

calm, composed gentleman.

> >

> > prashant

> >

> > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> >

/database?method=reportRows & tbl=6

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@>

> >

> > Tue, January 12, 2010 5:31:49 PM

> > Re: Sun's Placement ! 12/1

> >

> >

> > Find a chart which has the same ascendant as you with sun in 4th but saturn

not in cancer but elsewhere not making any association with sun and compare

notes about that person's relationship with his or her father :-)

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...>

wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > //this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological magazines

over the years esp in the late 80's//

> > >

> > > Do you happen to have a link to any of those articles by any chance

Prashant Ji?

> > >

> > > Well, I happen to have Sun(representing father) in 4H and can tell you it

does cause some discomfort sitting in technically a mother's house.. I have a

great father who does love me unconditionally, but we really seem to be at odds

with each other sometimes.

> > >

> > >

> > > Lilly

> > >

> > >

> > > , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Lilly,

> > > >

> > > > u have already answered ur own question in many ways.

> > > >

> > > > as the leader of the Solar system sun has the key role in effects the

other planets in the system deliver/influence

> > > >

> > > > say as Atmakaraka, as the Atman [soul of the chart] shows inheritance,

inherited disorders like cardiac, respiratory, ones

> > > > the if there is a family line of activity then it shows the sun placed

in trines to fatgher/son or quadrants in most cases and successful enterprises/

professions cold have it stronger in the 9-11 in their charts with good Dig,

shad balas

> > > >

> > > > and as u said with other combinations, influences can add/deduct the

results of other bhavas

> > > >

> > > > Sun in the st gives a weak constitution and with Budha sttisticall if

other factors prevail one gives up their spouse and if Merc [bidha+ravi [sun] in

the 7th the spouse seperates due to divorcenatural reasons like health/death

etc.

> > > >

> > > > all malefics in 3,6,10,11 are ver good and sun is n o exception in other

places does reduces the effects of the houses

> > > >

> > > > say 4th one rarely is comfortable with father, paternal relatives [as

4th represents the mother and her circles so is a odd entity there]

> > > >

> > > > this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological magazines

over the years esp inthe late 80's

> > > >

> > > > prashant

> > > >

> > > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from

non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur

birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures

folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder.

Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ >

> > > >

> > > > Tue, January 12, 2010 7:56:57 AM

> > > > Sun's Placement !

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Members,

> > > >

> > > > Astrology 101 tells us that Sun's placement in a birth chart is

extremely important in determining a person's direction in life.

> > > > From what I remember I think it does quite well in 10th house( not too

sure about the other houses).

> > > > Although considered a mild malefic, is actually an " auspicious " planet.

> > > > The Sun, as the natural atmakarma or soul, gives life force, the power

of will, intellect, brilliance, prosperity, success in worldly affairs, wealth

and many other wonderful things.

> > > > However, it is also known that the Sun " burns " and " purifies " the house

he sits in. We already had a discussion earlier of how it may cause divorce/

separation in 7H(of course the whole chart has to be assessed to get an accurate

picture).

> > > > Can any member throw some " light " into how exactly does the " burn " and

" purifying " works in a chart?

> > > >

> > > > Lilly

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Well Ms. Nadini, by you post I can see you do have experience in jotisha:-)!

You are right in your assessment about my difficult relationship with my

mother.. She is an amazing women with lots of wonderful qualities(wish I had

some of them!), but we often bump and crash, then lend a helping hand. Like

everything else in my life relationship is a work in progress!

 

Lilly

 

, " nandini " <kakan_leo wrote:

>

> Dear Lilly,

>

> if I may.

>

> //When a man has to provide for his family and at the same time also play a

dual role of both mother and father some areas of life is bound to suffer.//

>

> The indicators of Mother and Father come together in many ways in your chart.

For example Sun the natural karak for father, placed in the 4th house of Mother

is also the chara MatriKarak. The 4th lord Saturn is placed in the 9th house of

father. The 9th lord is none other than Moon, the natural Karak for Mother, so

well placed in the 5th, in the star of your AtmaKarak Mercury.

>

> Chara MatriKarak placed in the house it represents could indicate difficult

experiences related to the mother in a worldly way.

>

> I have no Jyotish experience - just trying to learn. But wondering if this

coming together of the indicators of the Father and the Mother could be a great

spiritual opportunity in this lifetime – to experience the ONE and ONLY parent –

GOD!!

>

> Regards,

> Nandini

>

>

> , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > //invariable this combination does give fracture or bone disorders as well

apart from poor relationship with father at times if good may live apart say in

hostals, relatives, friends or professionally they will be made to stay away

from one another//

> >

> > Well, So far I have neither had any fracture, or any bone disorders(knock on

wood!)..However, I do occasionally get muscle spasms/back pains(poor posture),

headaches etc.

> > I have always lived with my father for most of my live, and still do! Never

lived in a hostel, or with relatives, except in my childhood we had a joined

family with grandparents, aunts, uncles and everyone around.

> > Relationship is a two way street and there is always a limit to how much

responsibilities a man can take..When a man has to provide for his family and at

the same time also play a dual role of both mother and father some areas of life

is bound to suffer.

> >

> > Lilly

> >

> >

> >

> > , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear RRji, Lilly

> > >

> > > a v good point-distinction

> > >

> > > ravi+sani [sun+satn] aspect, conjunction anywhere does add to such a

situation as u have hinted and Lilly must note the same too as they r enemies

though father-sun in the Graha kutumba[ the celestial bodies family]

> > >

> > > invariable this combination does give fracture or bone disorders as well

apart from poor relationship with father at times if good may live apart say in

hostals, relatives, friends or professionally they will be made to stay away

from one another

> > >

> > > a case in point 22/2/59, 6.35 am, chennai

> > >

> > > father lived in Gulf for 17 yrs and overall relationship is v good between

the father son.

> > > here sun +merc r inAsc and he seperated from his wife after putting a lot

of effort in saving his marriage when it went beyond his toleanc limits a very

calm, composed gentleman.

> > >

> > > prashant

> > >

> > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > >

/database?method=reportRows & tbl=6

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@>

> > >

> > > Tue, January 12, 2010 5:31:49 PM

> > > Re: Sun's Placement ! 12/1

> > >

> > >

> > > Find a chart which has the same ascendant as you with sun in 4th but

saturn not in cancer but elsewhere not making any association with sun and

compare notes about that person's relationship with his or her father :-)

> > >

> > > RR_,

> > >

> > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > //this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological

magazines over the years esp in the late 80's//

> > > >

> > > > Do you happen to have a link to any of those articles by any chance

Prashant Ji?

> > > >

> > > > Well, I happen to have Sun(representing father) in 4H and can tell you

it does cause some discomfort sitting in technically a mother's house.. I have a

great father who does love me unconditionally, but we really seem to be at odds

with each other sometimes.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Lilly

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Lilly,

> > > > >

> > > > > u have already answered ur own question in many ways.

> > > > >

> > > > > as the leader of the Solar system sun has the key role in effects the

other planets in the system deliver/influence

> > > > >

> > > > > say as Atmakaraka, as the Atman [soul of the chart] shows inheritance,

inherited disorders like cardiac, respiratory, ones

> > > > > the if there is a family line of activity then it shows the sun placed

in trines to fatgher/son or quadrants in most cases and successful enterprises/

professions cold have it stronger in the 9-11 in their charts with good Dig,

shad balas

> > > > >

> > > > > and as u said with other combinations, influences can add/deduct the

results of other bhavas

> > > > >

> > > > > Sun in the st gives a weak constitution and with Budha sttisticall if

other factors prevail one gives up their spouse and if Merc [bidha+ravi [sun] in

the 7th the spouse seperates due to divorcenatural reasons like health/death

etc.

> > > > >

> > > > > all malefics in 3,6,10,11 are ver good and sun is n o exception in

other places does reduces the effects of the houses

> > > > >

> > > > > say 4th one rarely is comfortable with father, paternal relatives [as

4th represents the mother and her circles so is a odd entity there]

> > > > >

> > > > > this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological

magazines over the years esp inthe late 80's

> > > > >

> > > > > prashant

> > > > >

> > > > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ

from non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify

ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures

folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder.

Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ >

> > > > >

> > > > > Tue, January 12, 2010 7:56:57 AM

> > > > > Sun's Placement !

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > >

> > > > > Astrology 101 tells us that Sun's placement in a birth chart is

extremely important in determining a person's direction in life.

> > > > > From what I remember I think it does quite well in 10th house( not too

sure about the other houses).

> > > > > Although considered a mild malefic, is actually an " auspicious "

planet.

> > > > > The Sun, as the natural atmakarma or soul, gives life force, the power

of will, intellect, brilliance, prosperity, success in worldly affairs, wealth

and many other wonderful things.

> > > > > However, it is also known that the Sun " burns " and " purifies " the

house he sits in. We already had a discussion earlier of how it may cause

divorce/ separation in 7H(of course the whole chart has to be assessed to get an

accurate picture).

> > > > > Can any member throw some " light " into how exactly does the " burn " and

" purifying " works in a chart?

> > > > >

> > > > > Lilly

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Please provide more details Sir:

a) How does one access the archive? Is it only by personal visit or is there a

modern electronic format available?

b) Exactly from which to which issue is in the archive?

c) What is in the archives :-) Table of Contents, full-text articles, abstract?

d) How much does the archive cost and is it available in segments or just one

package only?

e) I realize that you may not be directly involved with this organization, but

could you kindly share with us great unwashed if they have a website or is there

a contact person etc?

 

Thanks in advance for as much information as you can share.

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

>

> Dear Members.

> Certainly this is miscommunicated issue.A.M data base was very much kept in

archieves by M/S raman Publications.This treasure was also taken over under the

custody of ICAS library.

> The role of brother is about eAstrological Magazine commenced from July2009 in

which mebership si ope,

> where as Argany Publications Modern Astrological magazine through Argany

Publication is under the stewardship of Mrs gaytri Vasudev.Most of family

affairs of late ramans family are now getting sorted out.It is now a question of

time.ICAS ,banglore deemed university is a trust and has the blessings of this

family as a whole.

>

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

> Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>  

>

> --- On Tue, 1/12/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote:

>

>

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

> Re: Sun's Placement ! 12/1

>

> Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 7:05 AM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> Yes it is sad! Those very people who spend time OCRing classics and uploading

those online as pirated edition (some with personally-doctored meanings!) should

have spent their time in OCRing tables of contents from AM or Times of Astrology

etc. Would have been a much better service to Jyotish :-)

>

> It is a shame that the articles could not be OCRed due to copyright issues and

now we all are hostage to poor archiving and family feud!

>

> RR_,

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ...>

wrote:

> >

> > Lilly,

> >

> > well there is no such database yet as these r pre-Info tech days and pre-NET

days too BUT HAD SUGGESTED THIS IDEA TO THE THEN editor IN CHIEF GAYATHRI DAVEI

VASUDEV who did agree like the idea the setp up has changed inthe magazine now

and her brothers have taken over

> > not surte of their interest in this BUT the new avatar of the magazine is

> > eastrologicalmagazi ne.com so u can write to them

> >

> > this is the MODERN ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZINE run by her

> > publicationsagrany@ ...;

> >

> > and one run by her brothers is

> >

> > Niranjan Babu B <cru115@

> >

> >

> > ----

> > G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...>

> >

> > Tue, January 12, 2010 3:22:15 PM

> > Re: Sun's Placement ! 12/1

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > //this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological magazines

over the years esp in the late 80's//

> >

> > Do you happen to have a link to any of those articles by any chance Prashant

Ji?

> >

> > Well, I happen to have Sun(representing father) in 4H and can tell you it

does cause some discomfort sitting in technically a mother's house.. I have a

great father who does love me unconditionally, but we really seem to be at odds

with each other sometimes.

> >

> > Lilly

> >

> > , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@

...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Lilly,

> > >

> > > u have already answered ur own question in many ways.

> > >

> > > as the leader of the Solar system sun has the key role in effects the

other planets in the system deliver/influence

> > >

> > > say as Atmakaraka, as the Atman [soul of the chart] shows inheritance,

inherited disorders like cardiac, respiratory, ones

> > > the if there is a family line of activity then it shows the sun placed in

trines to fatgher/son or quadrants in most cases and successful enterprises/

professions cold have it stronger in the 9-11 in their charts with good Dig,

shad balas

> > >

> > > and as u said with other combinations, influences can add/deduct the

results of other bhavas

> > >

> > > Sun in the st gives a weak constitution and with Budha sttisticall if

other factors prevail one gives up their spouse and if Merc [bidha+ravi [sun] in

the 7th the spouse seperates due to divorcenatural reasons like health/death

etc.

> > >

> > > all malefics in 3,6,10,11 are ver good and sun is n o exception in other

places does reduces the effects of the houses

> > >

> > > say 4th one rarely is comfortable with father, paternal relatives [as 4th

represents the mother and her circles so is a odd entity there]

> > >

> > > this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological magazines

over the years esp inthe late 80's

> > >

> > > prashant

> > >

> > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from

non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur

birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures

folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder.

Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...>

> > >

> > > Tue, January 12, 2010 7:56:57 AM

> > > Sun's Placement !

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Members,

> > >

> > > Astrology 101 tells us that Sun's placement in a birth chart is extremely

important in determining a person's direction in life.

> > > From what I remember I think it does quite well in 10th house( not too

sure about the other houses).

> > > Although considered a mild malefic, is actually an " auspicious " planet.

> > > The Sun, as the natural atmakarma or soul, gives life force, the power of

will, intellect, brilliance, prosperity, success in worldly affairs, wealth and

many other wonderful things.

> > > However, it is also known that the Sun " burns " and " purifies " the house he

sits in. We already had a discussion earlier of how it may cause divorce/

separation in 7H(of course the whole chart has to be assessed to get an accurate

picture).

> > > Can any member throw some " light " into how exactly does the " burn " and

" purifying " works in a chart?

> > >

> > > Lilly

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Dear Lilly,

 

I think you are 'running... " with a general statement that Prashant made! I do

not think he was talking about *your* chart :-)

 

The biggest problem with astrology and particularly with beginners is that they

tend to run with it too literally! It does not work that way at all, regardless

of the fact that even so called CLASSICS are full of sun in this sign or that

house or in case of Saravali several combinations of planets in certain houses

type readings! They simply do not work consistently if one takes the time to

test those in many charts.

 

If we use the rather uncommon common-sense (sorry if I am being a curmudgeon!)

it would be very readily apparent that if Astrology was just about having a

'look-up' table where planets in signs or in houses or in nakshatra or navamsha

etc were equivalent to capsules of reading -- then a very basic database

software would be able to mete out the full readings! But this experiment has

been conducted and failed! In fact one software actually made a heroic attempt

to then translate and compost the logic (typo intenional) into a nice looking

reading but very quickly withdrew it without even a change in the version number

;-) Those who spotted that did so by serendipity!

 

Even if you take other pieces like Ashtakavarga and umpteen dashas, padas and

what not, the stew definitely gets richer and perhaps tastier and way more

nutritious than the planet in house planet in sign porridge (Daliya! Or shall we

say Sattu?) but then that just makes it a dish and not a gourmet but nourishing

feast for the body, mind and soul!

 

No house can be built without basic material: bricks, wood, nails, screws, metal

strips, stone, cement, mortar, grout, tiles, dry-wall (or equivalent in other

countries), glass, blah blah blah! But then one must add the 'human touch' to

convert a pile of construction material into a beautiful architectural creation!

 

And architects/builders are not made in one day or one year and after reading

one or two bricks! They waste a lot of material during practice before they can

sit back and look at their design and construction and say, " AHHHHH...! "

 

RR-,

 

, " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 wrote:

>

>

> //invariable this combination does give fracture or bone disorders as well

apart from poor relationship with father at times if good may live apart say in

hostals, relatives, friends or professionally they will be made to stay away

from one another//

>

> Well, So far I have neither had any fracture, or any bone disorders(knock on

wood!)..However, I do occasionally get muscle spasms/back pains(poor posture),

headaches etc.

> I have always lived with my father for most of my live, and still do! Never

lived in a hostel, or with relatives, except in my childhood we had a joined

family with grandparents, aunts, uncles and everyone around.

> Relationship is a two way street and there is always a limit to how much

responsibilities a man can take..When a man has to provide for his family and at

the same time also play a dual role of both mother and father some areas of life

is bound to suffer.

>

> Lilly

>

>

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear RRji, Lilly

> >

> > a v good point-distinction

> >

> > ravi+sani [sun+satn] aspect, conjunction anywhere does add to such a

situation as u have hinted and Lilly must note the same too as they r enemies

though father-sun in the Graha kutumba[ the celestial bodies family]

> >

> > invariable this combination does give fracture or bone disorders as well

apart from poor relationship with father at times if good may live apart say in

hostals, relatives, friends or professionally they will be made to stay away

from one another

> >

> > a case in point 22/2/59, 6.35 am, chennai

> >

> > father lived in Gulf for 17 yrs and overall relationship is v good between

the father son.

> > here sun +merc r inAsc and he seperated from his wife after putting a lot of

effort in saving his marriage when it went beyond his toleanc limits a very

calm, composed gentleman.

> >

> > prashant

> >

> > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> >

/database?method=reportRows & tbl=6

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@>

> >

> > Tue, January 12, 2010 5:31:49 PM

> > Re: Sun's Placement ! 12/1

> >

> >

> > Find a chart which has the same ascendant as you with sun in 4th but saturn

not in cancer but elsewhere not making any association with sun and compare

notes about that person's relationship with his or her father :-)

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...>

wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > //this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological magazines

over the years esp in the late 80's//

> > >

> > > Do you happen to have a link to any of those articles by any chance

Prashant Ji?

> > >

> > > Well, I happen to have Sun(representing father) in 4H and can tell you it

does cause some discomfort sitting in technically a mother's house.. I have a

great father who does love me unconditionally, but we really seem to be at odds

with each other sometimes.

> > >

> > >

> > > Lilly

> > >

> > >

> > > , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Lilly,

> > > >

> > > > u have already answered ur own question in many ways.

> > > >

> > > > as the leader of the Solar system sun has the key role in effects the

other planets in the system deliver/influence

> > > >

> > > > say as Atmakaraka, as the Atman [soul of the chart] shows inheritance,

inherited disorders like cardiac, respiratory, ones

> > > > the if there is a family line of activity then it shows the sun placed

in trines to fatgher/son or quadrants in most cases and successful enterprises/

professions cold have it stronger in the 9-11 in their charts with good Dig,

shad balas

> > > >

> > > > and as u said with other combinations, influences can add/deduct the

results of other bhavas

> > > >

> > > > Sun in the st gives a weak constitution and with Budha sttisticall if

other factors prevail one gives up their spouse and if Merc [bidha+ravi [sun] in

the 7th the spouse seperates due to divorcenatural reasons like health/death

etc.

> > > >

> > > > all malefics in 3,6,10,11 are ver good and sun is n o exception in other

places does reduces the effects of the houses

> > > >

> > > > say 4th one rarely is comfortable with father, paternal relatives [as

4th represents the mother and her circles so is a odd entity there]

> > > >

> > > > this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological magazines

over the years esp inthe late 80's

> > > >

> > > > prashant

> > > >

> > > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from

non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur

birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures

folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder.

Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ >

> > > >

> > > > Tue, January 12, 2010 7:56:57 AM

> > > > Sun's Placement !

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Members,

> > > >

> > > > Astrology 101 tells us that Sun's placement in a birth chart is

extremely important in determining a person's direction in life.

> > > > From what I remember I think it does quite well in 10th house( not too

sure about the other houses).

> > > > Although considered a mild malefic, is actually an " auspicious " planet.

> > > > The Sun, as the natural atmakarma or soul, gives life force, the power

of will, intellect, brilliance, prosperity, success in worldly affairs, wealth

and many other wonderful things.

> > > > However, it is also known that the Sun " burns " and " purifies " the house

he sits in. We already had a discussion earlier of how it may cause divorce/

separation in 7H(of course the whole chart has to be assessed to get an accurate

picture).

> > > > Can any member throw some " light " into how exactly does the " burn " and

" purifying " works in a chart?

> > > >

> > > > Lilly

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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STOP..STOP..,before I go blind!!

You are throwing way too much " light " into joytisha! Don't you want to leave

some things for tomorrow..

 

Lilly

 

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

wrote:

>

> Dear Lilly,

>

> I think you are 'running... " with a general statement that Prashant made! I do

not think he was talking about *your* chart :-)

>

> The biggest problem with astrology and particularly with beginners is that

they tend to run with it too literally! It does not work that way at all,

regardless of the fact that even so called CLASSICS are full of sun in this sign

or that house or in case of Saravali several combinations of planets in certain

houses type readings! They simply do not work consistently if one takes the time

to test those in many charts.

>

> If we use the rather uncommon common-sense (sorry if I am being a curmudgeon!)

it would be very readily apparent that if Astrology was just about having a

'look-up' table where planets in signs or in houses or in nakshatra or navamsha

etc were equivalent to capsules of reading -- then a very basic database

software would be able to mete out the full readings! But this experiment has

been conducted and failed! In fact one software actually made a heroic attempt

to then translate and compost the logic (typo intenional) into a nice looking

reading but very quickly withdrew it without even a change in the version number

;-) Those who spotted that did so by serendipity!

>

> Even if you take other pieces like Ashtakavarga and umpteen dashas, padas and

what not, the stew definitely gets richer and perhaps tastier and way more

nutritious than the planet in house planet in sign porridge (Daliya! Or shall we

say Sattu?) but then that just makes it a dish and not a gourmet but nourishing

feast for the body, mind and soul!

>

> No house can be built without basic material: bricks, wood, nails, screws,

metal strips, stone, cement, mortar, grout, tiles, dry-wall (or equivalent in

other countries), glass, blah blah blah! But then one must add the 'human touch'

to convert a pile of construction material into a beautiful architectural

creation!

>

> And architects/builders are not made in one day or one year and after reading

one or two bricks! They waste a lot of material during practice before they can

sit back and look at their design and construction and say, " AHHHHH...! "

>

> RR-,

>

> , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > //invariable this combination does give fracture or bone disorders as well

apart from poor relationship with father at times if good may live apart say in

hostals, relatives, friends or professionally they will be made to stay away

from one another//

> >

> > Well, So far I have neither had any fracture, or any bone disorders(knock on

wood!)..However, I do occasionally get muscle spasms/back pains(poor posture),

headaches etc.

> > I have always lived with my father for most of my live, and still do! Never

lived in a hostel, or with relatives, except in my childhood we had a joined

family with grandparents, aunts, uncles and everyone around.

> > Relationship is a two way street and there is always a limit to how much

responsibilities a man can take..When a man has to provide for his family and at

the same time also play a dual role of both mother and father some areas of life

is bound to suffer.

> >

> > Lilly

> >

> >

> >

> > , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear RRji, Lilly

> > >

> > > a v good point-distinction

> > >

> > > ravi+sani [sun+satn] aspect, conjunction anywhere does add to such a

situation as u have hinted and Lilly must note the same too as they r enemies

though father-sun in the Graha kutumba[ the celestial bodies family]

> > >

> > > invariable this combination does give fracture or bone disorders as well

apart from poor relationship with father at times if good may live apart say in

hostals, relatives, friends or professionally they will be made to stay away

from one another

> > >

> > > a case in point 22/2/59, 6.35 am, chennai

> > >

> > > father lived in Gulf for 17 yrs and overall relationship is v good between

the father son.

> > > here sun +merc r inAsc and he seperated from his wife after putting a lot

of effort in saving his marriage when it went beyond his toleanc limits a very

calm, composed gentleman.

> > >

> > > prashant

> > >

> > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > >

/database?method=reportRows & tbl=6

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@>

> > >

> > > Tue, January 12, 2010 5:31:49 PM

> > > Re: Sun's Placement ! 12/1

> > >

> > >

> > > Find a chart which has the same ascendant as you with sun in 4th but

saturn not in cancer but elsewhere not making any association with sun and

compare notes about that person's relationship with his or her father :-)

> > >

> > > RR_,

> > >

> > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > //this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological

magazines over the years esp in the late 80's//

> > > >

> > > > Do you happen to have a link to any of those articles by any chance

Prashant Ji?

> > > >

> > > > Well, I happen to have Sun(representing father) in 4H and can tell you

it does cause some discomfort sitting in technically a mother's house.. I have a

great father who does love me unconditionally, but we really seem to be at odds

with each other sometimes.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Lilly

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Lilly,

> > > > >

> > > > > u have already answered ur own question in many ways.

> > > > >

> > > > > as the leader of the Solar system sun has the key role in effects the

other planets in the system deliver/influence

> > > > >

> > > > > say as Atmakaraka, as the Atman [soul of the chart] shows inheritance,

inherited disorders like cardiac, respiratory, ones

> > > > > the if there is a family line of activity then it shows the sun placed

in trines to fatgher/son or quadrants in most cases and successful enterprises/

professions cold have it stronger in the 9-11 in their charts with good Dig,

shad balas

> > > > >

> > > > > and as u said with other combinations, influences can add/deduct the

results of other bhavas

> > > > >

> > > > > Sun in the st gives a weak constitution and with Budha sttisticall if

other factors prevail one gives up their spouse and if Merc [bidha+ravi [sun] in

the 7th the spouse seperates due to divorcenatural reasons like health/death

etc.

> > > > >

> > > > > all malefics in 3,6,10,11 are ver good and sun is n o exception in

other places does reduces the effects of the houses

> > > > >

> > > > > say 4th one rarely is comfortable with father, paternal relatives [as

4th represents the mother and her circles so is a odd entity there]

> > > > >

> > > > > this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological

magazines over the years esp inthe late 80's

> > > > >

> > > > > prashant

> > > > >

> > > > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ

from non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify

ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures

folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder.

Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ >

> > > > >

> > > > > Tue, January 12, 2010 7:56:57 AM

> > > > > Sun's Placement !

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > >

> > > > > Astrology 101 tells us that Sun's placement in a birth chart is

extremely important in determining a person's direction in life.

> > > > > From what I remember I think it does quite well in 10th house( not too

sure about the other houses).

> > > > > Although considered a mild malefic, is actually an " auspicious "

planet.

> > > > > The Sun, as the natural atmakarma or soul, gives life force, the power

of will, intellect, brilliance, prosperity, success in worldly affairs, wealth

and many other wonderful things.

> > > > > However, it is also known that the Sun " burns " and " purifies " the

house he sits in. We already had a discussion earlier of how it may cause

divorce/ separation in 7H(of course the whole chart has to be assessed to get an

accurate picture).

> > > > > Can any member throw some " light " into how exactly does the " burn " and

" purifying " works in a chart?

> > > > >

> > > > > Lilly

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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What if the sun does not rise tomorrow, Tigress?

 

Or worse...! What if it rises in the West? As we had always been using as the

metaphor for the impossible?

 

East and West are rather meagre realities once we begin to consider our (solar

system's) place in the Galaxy! If the 2012 Scare was not put in our soul by the

MAYA, and so much written about it -- scaring, refreshing, soothing, and so on,

many of us would never have become aware of it as being an astronomical reality!

 

The world is not going to end on 21-12-2012 despite the earthquakes and

snowstorms and nearly thwarted human tragedies and so on that was witnessed

around the past Christmas -- but hopefully (and the Ancient Mayas had been

hoping and praying!) that we -- their descendents in a global sense, realize

that we (our solar system!) is but a infinitismal speck in the GRAND CREATION of

BRAHMA!

 

Sometimes, in order to embrace the MACROCOSMOS, one must reach within to the

microcosmos! That is the only BINARY REALITY that we often ignore when we look

not OUTSIDE or within, but unfocussedly here and there and everywhere -- but

THERE!

 

I am not sure whether you are familiar with Dobsonian telescopes. They demand a

'setting-up' procedure. You have to find two bright stars (the manual

instructions are very clear!) in order to calibrate your " point of view " , your

'perspective'.

 

Thereafter, you are free to explore the Universe, if you so wish!

 

Or stick with Astrology! Same difference, as the cliché goes! But DO something

to move you out of the armchair or couch!!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 wrote:

>

>

> STOP..STOP..,before I go blind!!

> You are throwing way too much " light " into joytisha! Don't you want to leave

some things for tomorrow..

>

> Lilly

>

> , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Lilly,

> >

> > I think you are 'running... " with a general statement that Prashant made! I

do not think he was talking about *your* chart :-)

> >

> > The biggest problem with astrology and particularly with beginners is that

they tend to run with it too literally! It does not work that way at all,

regardless of the fact that even so called CLASSICS are full of sun in this sign

or that house or in case of Saravali several combinations of planets in certain

houses type readings! They simply do not work consistently if one takes the time

to test those in many charts.

> >

> > If we use the rather uncommon common-sense (sorry if I am being a

curmudgeon!) it would be very readily apparent that if Astrology was just about

having a 'look-up' table where planets in signs or in houses or in nakshatra or

navamsha etc were equivalent to capsules of reading -- then a very basic

database software would be able to mete out the full readings! But this

experiment has been conducted and failed! In fact one software actually made a

heroic attempt to then translate and compost the logic (typo intenional) into a

nice looking reading but very quickly withdrew it without even a change in the

version number ;-) Those who spotted that did so by serendipity!

> >

> > Even if you take other pieces like Ashtakavarga and umpteen dashas, padas

and what not, the stew definitely gets richer and perhaps tastier and way more

nutritious than the planet in house planet in sign porridge (Daliya! Or shall we

say Sattu?) but then that just makes it a dish and not a gourmet but nourishing

feast for the body, mind and soul!

> >

> > No house can be built without basic material: bricks, wood, nails, screws,

metal strips, stone, cement, mortar, grout, tiles, dry-wall (or equivalent in

other countries), glass, blah blah blah! But then one must add the 'human touch'

to convert a pile of construction material into a beautiful architectural

creation!

> >

> > And architects/builders are not made in one day or one year and after

reading one or two bricks! They waste a lot of material during practice before

they can sit back and look at their design and construction and say,

" AHHHHH...! "

> >

> > RR-,

> >

> > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > //invariable this combination does give fracture or bone disorders as well

apart from poor relationship with father at times if good may live apart say in

hostals, relatives, friends or professionally they will be made to stay away

from one another//

> > >

> > > Well, So far I have neither had any fracture, or any bone disorders(knock

on wood!)..However, I do occasionally get muscle spasms/back pains(poor

posture), headaches etc.

> > > I have always lived with my father for most of my live, and still do!

Never lived in a hostel, or with relatives, except in my childhood we had a

joined family with grandparents, aunts, uncles and everyone around.

> > > Relationship is a two way street and there is always a limit to how much

responsibilities a man can take..When a man has to provide for his family and at

the same time also play a dual role of both mother and father some areas of life

is bound to suffer.

> > >

> > > Lilly

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear RRji, Lilly

> > > >

> > > > a v good point-distinction

> > > >

> > > > ravi+sani [sun+satn] aspect, conjunction anywhere does add to such a

situation as u have hinted and Lilly must note the same too as they r enemies

though father-sun in the Graha kutumba[ the celestial bodies family]

> > > >

> > > > invariable this combination does give fracture or bone disorders as well

apart from poor relationship with father at times if good may live apart say in

hostals, relatives, friends or professionally they will be made to stay away

from one another

> > > >

> > > > a case in point 22/2/59, 6.35 am, chennai

> > > >

> > > > father lived in Gulf for 17 yrs and overall relationship is v good

between the father son.

> > > > here sun +merc r inAsc and he seperated from his wife after putting a

lot of effort in saving his marriage when it went beyond his toleanc limits a

very calm, composed gentleman.

> > > >

> > > > prashant

> > > >

> > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > >

/database?method=reportRows & tbl=6

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ________________________________

> > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@>

> > > >

> > > > Tue, January 12, 2010 5:31:49 PM

> > > > Re: Sun's Placement ! 12/1

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Find a chart which has the same ascendant as you with sun in 4th but

saturn not in cancer but elsewhere not making any association with sun and

compare notes about that person's relationship with his or her father :-)

> > > >

> > > > RR_,

> > > >

> > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@

....> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > //this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological

magazines over the years esp in the late 80's//

> > > > >

> > > > > Do you happen to have a link to any of those articles by any chance

Prashant Ji?

> > > > >

> > > > > Well, I happen to have Sun(representing father) in 4H and can tell you

it does cause some discomfort sitting in technically a mother's house.. I have a

great father who does love me unconditionally, but we really seem to be at odds

with each other sometimes.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Lilly

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lilly,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > u have already answered ur own question in many ways.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > as the leader of the Solar system sun has the key role in effects

the other planets in the system deliver/influence

> > > > > >

> > > > > > say as Atmakaraka, as the Atman [soul of the chart] shows

inheritance, inherited disorders like cardiac, respiratory, ones

> > > > > > the if there is a family line of activity then it shows the sun

placed in trines to fatgher/son or quadrants in most cases and successful

enterprises/ professions cold have it stronger in the 9-11 in their charts with

good Dig, shad balas

> > > > > >

> > > > > > and as u said with other combinations, influences can add/deduct the

results of other bhavas

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sun in the st gives a weak constitution and with Budha sttisticall

if other factors prevail one gives up their spouse and if Merc [bidha+ravi [sun]

in the 7th the spouse seperates due to divorcenatural reasons like health/death

etc.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > all malefics in 3,6,10,11 are ver good and sun is n o exception in

other places does reduces the effects of the houses

> > > > > >

> > > > > > say 4th one rarely is comfortable with father, paternal relatives

[as 4th represents the mother and her circles so is a odd entity there]

> > > > > >

> > > > > > this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological

magazines over the years esp inthe late 80's

> > > > > >

> > > > > > prashant

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ

from non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify

ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures

folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder.

Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Tue, January 12, 2010 7:56:57 AM

> > > > > > Sun's Placement !

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Astrology 101 tells us that Sun's placement in a birth chart is

extremely important in determining a person's direction in life.

> > > > > > From what I remember I think it does quite well in 10th house( not

too sure about the other houses).

> > > > > > Although considered a mild malefic, is actually an " auspicious "

planet.

> > > > > > The Sun, as the natural atmakarma or soul, gives life force, the

power of will, intellect, brilliance, prosperity, success in worldly affairs,

wealth and many other wonderful things.

> > > > > > However, it is also known that the Sun " burns " and " purifies " the

house he sits in. We already had a discussion earlier of how it may cause

divorce/ separation in 7H(of course the whole chart has to be assessed to get an

accurate picture).

> > > > > > Can any member throw some " light " into how exactly does the " burn "

and " purifying " works in a chart?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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Dear Prashnt Ji,

Feb2008 old A.M was put on their web:www.astrologicalmagazines.com.Archieves

were made avialable.Readers used to get back volumeas.Unfortunately AM family

happened to be in distress. 

 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Tue, 1/12/10, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote:

 

 

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

Re: Sun's Placement ! 12/1

 

Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 12:59 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Krishna ji

 

well ur msg sounds more soothing and reliving that they r coming out of the dark

phase for the good of the astrological family themselves and thus the world of

astrologers at large the biggest contrubutors to the subject for at least 4

generations. earlier it happens the better

 

let us hope the material becomes public for all.

 

...- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow

s & tbl=6

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 >

 

Tue, January 12, 2010 10:49:56 PM

Re: Sun's Placement ! 12/1

 

Dear Members.

Certainly this is miscommunicated issue.A.M data base was very much kept in

archieves by M/S raman Publications. This treasure was also taken over under the

custody of ICAS library.

The role of brother is about eAstrological Magazine commenced from July2009 in

which mebership si ope,

where as Argany Publications Modern Astrological magazine through Argany

Publication is under the stewardship of Mrs gaytri Vasudev.Most of family

affairs of late ramans family are now getting sorted out.It is now a question of

time.ICAS ,banglore deemed university is a trust and has the blessings of this

family as a whole.

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Tue, 1/12/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> wrote:

 

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

Re: Sun's Placement ! 12/1

 

Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 7:05 AM

 

Yes it is sad! Those very people who spend time OCRing classics and uploading

those online as pirated edition (some with personally-doctored meanings!) should

have spent their time in OCRing tables of contents from AM or Times of Astrology

etc. Would have been a much better service to Jyotish :-)

 

It is a shame that the articles could not be OCRed due to copyright issues and

now we all are hostage to poor archiving and family feud!

 

RR_,

 

, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@. ....>

wrote:

>

> Lilly,

>

> well there is no such database yet as these r pre-Info tech days and pre-NET

days too BUT HAD SUGGESTED THIS IDEA TO THE THEN editor IN CHIEF GAYATHRI DAVEI

VASUDEV who did agree like the idea the setp up has changed inthe magazine now

and her brothers have taken over

> not surte of their interest in this BUT the new avatar of the magazine is

> eastrologicalmagazi ne.com so u can write to them

>

> this is the MODERN ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZINE run by her

> publicationsagrany@ ...;

>

> and one run by her brothers is

>

> Niranjan Babu B <cru115

>

>

> ----

> G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow

s & tbl=6

>

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...>

>

> Tue, January 12, 2010 3:22:15 PM

> Re: Sun's Placement ! 12/1

>

>

>

>

> //this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological magazines

over the years esp in the late 80's//

>

> Do you happen to have a link to any of those articles by any chance Prashant

Ji?

>

> Well, I happen to have Sun(representing father) in 4H and can tell you it does

cause some discomfort sitting in technically a mother's house.. I have a great

father who does love me unconditionally, but we really seem to be at odds with

each other sometimes.

>

> Lilly

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ..>

wrote:

> >

> > Lilly,

> >

> > u have already answered ur own question in many ways.

> >

> > as the leader of the Solar system sun has the key role in effects the other

planets in the system deliver/influence

> >

> > say as Atmakaraka, as the Atman [soul of the chart] shows inheritance,

inherited disorders like cardiac, respiratory, ones

> > the if there is a family line of activity then it shows the sun placed in

trines to fatgher/son or quadrants in most cases and successful enterprises/

professions cold have it stronger in the 9-11 in their charts with good Dig,

shad balas

> >

> > and as u said with other combinations, influences can add/deduct the results

of other bhavas

> >

> > Sun in the st gives a weak constitution and with Budha sttisticall if other

factors prevail one gives up their spouse and if Merc [bidha+ravi [sun] in the

7th the spouse seperates due to divorcenatural reasons like health/death etc.

> >

> > all malefics in 3,6,10,11 are ver good and sun is n o exception in other

places does reduces the effects of the houses

> >

> > say 4th one rarely is comfortable with father, paternal relatives [as 4th

represents the mother and her circles so is a odd entity there]

> >

> > this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological magazines

over the years esp inthe late 80's

> >

> > prashant

> >

> > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth

data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in

the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside

the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group

for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...>

> >

> > Tue, January 12, 2010 7:56:57 AM

> > Sun's Placement !

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Members,

> >

> > Astrology 101 tells us that Sun's placement in a birth chart is extremely

important in determining a person's direction in life.

> > From what I remember I think it does quite well in 10th house( not too sure

about the other houses).

> > Although considered a mild malefic, is actually an " auspicious " planet.

> > The Sun, as the natural atmakarma or soul, gives life force, the power of

will, intellect, brilliance, prosperity, success in worldly affairs, wealth and

many other wonderful things.

> > However, it is also known that the Sun " burns " and " purifies " the house he

sits in. We already had a discussion earlier of how it may cause divorce/

separation in 7H(of course the whole chart has to be assessed to get an accurate

picture).

> > Can any member throw some " light " into how exactly does the " burn " and

" purifying " works in a chart?

> >

> > Lilly

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Krishnan_dada,

 

I had some rather pointed questions posted at you earlier. I realize that you

are very busy but you will eventually get to my questions and whether you choose

to respond to the 'ant-bites' or not, I am sure you (and others) shall find a

way!

 

Houses and indications (particularly the core ones) indicate the INVARIABLE in a

lifetime.

 

Charakarakas, then *can* point towards karmic challenges and what sometimes one

tends to overlook and ignore. Particularly when atmakaraka is involved with a

karmic planet such as Gulika.

 

I cannot quote a Classical strotra (I have written enough about Classics even at

the risk of getting some friends and well-wishers turn against me! As opposed to

against my words!!) but the two terms: KARMA and KARAKA had been my CLUE!

 

May those be yours too, to seek and explore and find!

 

Regards,

 

Rohiniranjan

 

 

 

, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

>

> Dear Prashnt Ji,

> Feb2008 old A.M was put on their web:www.astrologicalmagazines.com.Archieves

were made avialable.Readers used to get back volumeas.Unfortunately AM family

happened to be in distress. 

>

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

> Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>  

>

> --- On Tue, 1/12/10, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote:

>

>

> Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

> Re: Sun's Placement ! 12/1

>

> Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 12:59 PM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> Dear Krishna ji

>

> well ur msg sounds more soothing and reliving that they r coming out of the

dark phase for the good of the astrological family themselves and thus the world

of astrologers at large the biggest contrubutors to the subject for at least 4

generations. earlier it happens the better

>

> let us hope the material becomes public for all.

>

> ..- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow

s & tbl=6

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 >

>

> Tue, January 12, 2010 10:49:56 PM

> Re: Sun's Placement ! 12/1

>

> Dear Members.

> Certainly this is miscommunicated issue.A.M data base was very much kept in

archieves by M/S raman Publications. This treasure was also taken over under the

custody of ICAS library.

> The role of brother is about eAstrological Magazine commenced from July2009 in

which mebership si ope,

> where as Argany Publications Modern Astrological magazine through Argany

Publication is under the stewardship of Mrs gaytri Vasudev.Most of family

affairs of late ramans family are now getting sorted out.It is now a question of

time.ICAS ,banglore deemed university is a trust and has the blessings of this

family as a whole.

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

> Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them "

> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>

>

> --- On Tue, 1/12/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> wrote:

>

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

> Re: Sun's Placement ! 12/1

>

> Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 7:05 AM

>

> Yes it is sad! Those very people who spend time OCRing classics and uploading

those online as pirated edition (some with personally-doctored meanings!) should

have spent their time in OCRing tables of contents from AM or Times of Astrology

etc. Would have been a much better service to Jyotish :-)

>

> It is a shame that the articles could not be OCRed due to copyright issues and

now we all are hostage to poor archiving and family feud!

>

> RR_,

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@

.....> wrote:

> >

> > Lilly,

> >

> > well there is no such database yet as these r pre-Info tech days and pre-NET

days too BUT HAD SUGGESTED THIS IDEA TO THE THEN editor IN CHIEF GAYATHRI DAVEI

VASUDEV who did agree like the idea the setp up has changed inthe magazine now

and her brothers have taken over

> > not surte of their interest in this BUT the new avatar of the magazine is

> > eastrologicalmagazi ne.com so u can write to them

> >

> > this is the MODERN ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZINE run by her

> > publicationsagrany@ ...;

> >

> > and one run by her brothers is

> >

> > Niranjan Babu B <cru115@

> >

> >

> > ----

> > G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...>

> >

> > Tue, January 12, 2010 3:22:15 PM

> > Re: Sun's Placement ! 12/1

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > //this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological magazines

over the years esp in the late 80's//

> >

> > Do you happen to have a link to any of those articles by any chance Prashant

Ji?

> >

> > Well, I happen to have Sun(representing father) in 4H and can tell you it

does cause some discomfort sitting in technically a mother's house.. I have a

great father who does love me unconditionally, but we really seem to be at odds

with each other sometimes.

> >

> > Lilly

> >

> > , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@

...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Lilly,

> > >

> > > u have already answered ur own question in many ways.

> > >

> > > as the leader of the Solar system sun has the key role in effects the

other planets in the system deliver/influence

> > >

> > > say as Atmakaraka, as the Atman [soul of the chart] shows inheritance,

inherited disorders like cardiac, respiratory, ones

> > > the if there is a family line of activity then it shows the sun placed in

trines to fatgher/son or quadrants in most cases and successful enterprises/

professions cold have it stronger in the 9-11 in their charts with good Dig,

shad balas

> > >

> > > and as u said with other combinations, influences can add/deduct the

results of other bhavas

> > >

> > > Sun in the st gives a weak constitution and with Budha sttisticall if

other factors prevail one gives up their spouse and if Merc [bidha+ravi [sun] in

the 7th the spouse seperates due to divorcenatural reasons like health/death

etc.

> > >

> > > all malefics in 3,6,10,11 are ver good and sun is n o exception in other

places does reduces the effects of the houses

> > >

> > > say 4th one rarely is comfortable with father, paternal relatives [as 4th

represents the mother and her circles so is a odd entity there]

> > >

> > > this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological magazines

over the years esp inthe late 80's

> > >

> > > prashant

> > >

> > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from

non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur

birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures

folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder.

Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...>

> > >

> > > Tue, January 12, 2010 7:56:57 AM

> > > Sun's Placement !

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Members,

> > >

> > > Astrology 101 tells us that Sun's placement in a birth chart is extremely

important in determining a person's direction in life.

> > > From what I remember I think it does quite well in 10th house( not too

sure about the other houses).

> > > Although considered a mild malefic, is actually an " auspicious " planet.

> > > The Sun, as the natural atmakarma or soul, gives life force, the power of

will, intellect, brilliance, prosperity, success in worldly affairs, wealth and

many other wonderful things.

> > > However, it is also known that the Sun " burns " and " purifies " the house he

sits in. We already had a discussion earlier of how it may cause divorce/

separation in 7H(of course the whole chart has to be assessed to get an accurate

picture).

> > > Can any member throw some " light " into how exactly does the " burn " and

" purifying " works in a chart?

> > >

> > > Lilly

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Actually the sun did rise TODAY(where I live in the west):-), after many, many

days of darkness!

 

aab ees " ROOSHANI " se aankhiya mechol gayein

saab aab dundhla hee dundhla dikhta hai

 

Lilly

 

 

 

 

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

wrote:

>

> What if the sun does not rise tomorrow, Tigress?

>

> Or worse...! What if it rises in the West? As we had always been using as the

metaphor for the impossible?

>

> East and West are rather meagre realities once we begin to consider our (solar

system's) place in the Galaxy! If the 2012 Scare was not put in our soul by the

MAYA, and so much written about it -- scaring, refreshing, soothing, and so on,

many of us would never have become aware of it as being an astronomical reality!

>

> The world is not going to end on 21-12-2012 despite the earthquakes and

snowstorms and nearly thwarted human tragedies and so on that was witnessed

around the past Christmas -- but hopefully (and the Ancient Mayas had been

hoping and praying!) that we -- their descendents in a global sense, realize

that we (our solar system!) is but a infinitismal speck in the GRAND CREATION of

BRAHMA!

>

> Sometimes, in order to embrace the MACROCOSMOS, one must reach within to the

microcosmos! That is the only BINARY REALITY that we often ignore when we look

not OUTSIDE or within, but unfocussedly here and there and everywhere -- but

THERE!

>

> I am not sure whether you are familiar with Dobsonian telescopes. They demand

a 'setting-up' procedure. You have to find two bright stars (the manual

instructions are very clear!) in order to calibrate your " point of view " , your

'perspective'.

>

> Thereafter, you are free to explore the Universe, if you so wish!

>

> Or stick with Astrology! Same difference, as the cliché goes! But DO something

to move you out of the armchair or couch!!

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > STOP..STOP..,before I go blind!!

> > You are throwing way too much " light " into joytisha! Don't you want to leave

some things for tomorrow..

> >

> > Lilly

> >

> > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Lilly,

> > >

> > > I think you are 'running... " with a general statement that Prashant made!

I do not think he was talking about *your* chart :-)

> > >

> > > The biggest problem with astrology and particularly with beginners is that

they tend to run with it too literally! It does not work that way at all,

regardless of the fact that even so called CLASSICS are full of sun in this sign

or that house or in case of Saravali several combinations of planets in certain

houses type readings! They simply do not work consistently if one takes the time

to test those in many charts.

> > >

> > > If we use the rather uncommon common-sense (sorry if I am being a

curmudgeon!) it would be very readily apparent that if Astrology was just about

having a 'look-up' table where planets in signs or in houses or in nakshatra or

navamsha etc were equivalent to capsules of reading -- then a very basic

database software would be able to mete out the full readings! But this

experiment has been conducted and failed! In fact one software actually made a

heroic attempt to then translate and compost the logic (typo intenional) into a

nice looking reading but very quickly withdrew it without even a change in the

version number ;-) Those who spotted that did so by serendipity!

> > >

> > > Even if you take other pieces like Ashtakavarga and umpteen dashas, padas

and what not, the stew definitely gets richer and perhaps tastier and way more

nutritious than the planet in house planet in sign porridge (Daliya! Or shall we

say Sattu?) but then that just makes it a dish and not a gourmet but nourishing

feast for the body, mind and soul!

> > >

> > > No house can be built without basic material: bricks, wood, nails, screws,

metal strips, stone, cement, mortar, grout, tiles, dry-wall (or equivalent in

other countries), glass, blah blah blah! But then one must add the 'human touch'

to convert a pile of construction material into a beautiful architectural

creation!

> > >

> > > And architects/builders are not made in one day or one year and after

reading one or two bricks! They waste a lot of material during practice before

they can sit back and look at their design and construction and say,

" AHHHHH...! "

> > >

> > > RR-,

> > >

> > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > //invariable this combination does give fracture or bone disorders as

well apart from poor relationship with father at times if good may live apart

say in hostals, relatives, friends or professionally they will be made to stay

away from one another//

> > > >

> > > > Well, So far I have neither had any fracture, or any bone

disorders(knock on wood!)..However, I do occasionally get muscle spasms/back

pains(poor posture), headaches etc.

> > > > I have always lived with my father for most of my live, and still do!

Never lived in a hostel, or with relatives, except in my childhood we had a

joined family with grandparents, aunts, uncles and everyone around.

> > > > Relationship is a two way street and there is always a limit to how

much responsibilities a man can take..When a man has to provide for his family

and at the same time also play a dual role of both mother and father some areas

of life is bound to suffer.

> > > >

> > > > Lilly

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear RRji, Lilly

> > > > >

> > > > > a v good point-distinction

> > > > >

> > > > > ravi+sani [sun+satn] aspect, conjunction anywhere does add to such a

situation as u have hinted and Lilly must note the same too as they r enemies

though father-sun in the Graha kutumba[ the celestial bodies family]

> > > > >

> > > > > invariable this combination does give fracture or bone disorders as

well apart from poor relationship with father at times if good may live apart

say in hostals, relatives, friends or professionally they will be made to stay

away from one another

> > > > >

> > > > > a case in point 22/2/59, 6.35 am, chennai

> > > > >

> > > > > father lived in Gulf for 17 yrs and overall relationship is v good

between the father son.

> > > > > here sun +merc r inAsc and he seperated from his wife after putting a

lot of effort in saving his marriage when it went beyond his toleanc limits a

very calm, composed gentleman.

> > > > >

> > > > > prashant

> > > > >

> > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > > >

/database?method=reportRows & tbl=6

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@>

> > > > >

> > > > > Tue, January 12, 2010 5:31:49 PM

> > > > > Re: Sun's Placement ! 12/1

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Find a chart which has the same ascendant as you with sun in 4th but

saturn not in cancer but elsewhere not making any association with sun and

compare notes about that person's relationship with his or her father :-)

> > > > >

> > > > > RR_,

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@

....> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > //this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological

magazines over the years esp in the late 80's//

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Do you happen to have a link to any of those articles by any chance

Prashant Ji?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Well, I happen to have Sun(representing father) in 4H and can tell

you it does cause some discomfort sitting in technically a mother's house.. I

have a great father who does love me unconditionally, but we really seem to be

at odds with each other sometimes.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lilly,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > u have already answered ur own question in many ways.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > as the leader of the Solar system sun has the key role in effects

the other planets in the system deliver/influence

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > say as Atmakaraka, as the Atman [soul of the chart] shows

inheritance, inherited disorders like cardiac, respiratory, ones

> > > > > > > the if there is a family line of activity then it shows the sun

placed in trines to fatgher/son or quadrants in most cases and successful

enterprises/ professions cold have it stronger in the 9-11 in their charts with

good Dig, shad balas

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > and as u said with other combinations, influences can add/deduct

the results of other bhavas

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sun in the st gives a weak constitution and with Budha sttisticall

if other factors prevail one gives up their spouse and if Merc [bidha+ravi [sun]

in the 7th the spouse seperates due to divorcenatural reasons like health/death

etc.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > all malefics in 3,6,10,11 are ver good and sun is n o exception in

other places does reduces the effects of the houses

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > say 4th one rarely is comfortable with father, paternal relatives

[as 4th represents the mother and her circles so is a odd entity there]

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological

magazines over the years esp inthe late 80's

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > prashant

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will

differ from non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to

verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the

Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder.

Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Tue, January 12, 2010 7:56:57 AM

> > > > > > > Sun's Placement !

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Astrology 101 tells us that Sun's placement in a birth chart is

extremely important in determining a person's direction in life.

> > > > > > > From what I remember I think it does quite well in 10th house( not

too sure about the other houses).

> > > > > > > Although considered a mild malefic, is actually an " auspicious "

planet.

> > > > > > > The Sun, as the natural atmakarma or soul, gives life force, the

power of will, intellect, brilliance, prosperity, success in worldly affairs,

wealth and many other wonderful things.

> > > > > > > However, it is also known that the Sun " burns " and " purifies " the

house he sits in. We already had a discussion earlier of how it may cause

divorce/ separation in 7H(of course the whole chart has to be assessed to get an

accurate picture).

> > > > > > > Can any member throw some " light " into how exactly does the " burn "

and " purifying " works in a chart?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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But I thought the entire " BRAMHAND " , the cosmos was within us!

Shivoam Brahamashmi!

 

 

Lilly

 

 

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

wrote:

>

> What if the sun does not rise tomorrow, Tigress?

>

> Or worse...! What if it rises in the West? As we had always been using as the

metaphor for the impossible?

>

> East and West are rather meagre realities once we begin to consider our (solar

system's) place in the Galaxy! If the 2012 Scare was not put in our soul by the

MAYA, and so much written about it -- scaring, refreshing, soothing, and so on,

many of us would never have become aware of it as being an astronomical reality!

>

> The world is not going to end on 21-12-2012 despite the earthquakes and

snowstorms and nearly thwarted human tragedies and so on that was witnessed

around the past Christmas -- but hopefully (and the Ancient Mayas had been

hoping and praying!) that we -- their descendents in a global sense, realize

that we (our solar system!) is but a infinitismal speck in the GRAND CREATION of

BRAHMA!

>

> Sometimes, in order to embrace the MACROCOSMOS, one must reach within to the

microcosmos! That is the only BINARY REALITY that we often ignore when we look

not OUTSIDE or within, but unfocussedly here and there and everywhere -- but

THERE!

>

> I am not sure whether you are familiar with Dobsonian telescopes. They demand

a 'setting-up' procedure. You have to find two bright stars (the manual

instructions are very clear!) in order to calibrate your " point of view " , your

'perspective'.

>

> Thereafter, you are free to explore the Universe, if you so wish!

>

> Or stick with Astrology! Same difference, as the cliché goes! But DO something

to move you out of the armchair or couch!!

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > STOP..STOP..,before I go blind!!

> > You are throwing way too much " light " into joytisha! Don't you want to leave

some things for tomorrow..

> >

> > Lilly

> >

> > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Lilly,

> > >

> > > I think you are 'running... " with a general statement that Prashant made!

I do not think he was talking about *your* chart :-)

> > >

> > > The biggest problem with astrology and particularly with beginners is that

they tend to run with it too literally! It does not work that way at all,

regardless of the fact that even so called CLASSICS are full of sun in this sign

or that house or in case of Saravali several combinations of planets in certain

houses type readings! They simply do not work consistently if one takes the time

to test those in many charts.

> > >

> > > If we use the rather uncommon common-sense (sorry if I am being a

curmudgeon!) it would be very readily apparent that if Astrology was just about

having a 'look-up' table where planets in signs or in houses or in nakshatra or

navamsha etc were equivalent to capsules of reading -- then a very basic

database software would be able to mete out the full readings! But this

experiment has been conducted and failed! In fact one software actually made a

heroic attempt to then translate and compost the logic (typo intenional) into a

nice looking reading but very quickly withdrew it without even a change in the

version number ;-) Those who spotted that did so by serendipity!

> > >

> > > Even if you take other pieces like Ashtakavarga and umpteen dashas, padas

and what not, the stew definitely gets richer and perhaps tastier and way more

nutritious than the planet in house planet in sign porridge (Daliya! Or shall we

say Sattu?) but then that just makes it a dish and not a gourmet but nourishing

feast for the body, mind and soul!

> > >

> > > No house can be built without basic material: bricks, wood, nails, screws,

metal strips, stone, cement, mortar, grout, tiles, dry-wall (or equivalent in

other countries), glass, blah blah blah! But then one must add the 'human touch'

to convert a pile of construction material into a beautiful architectural

creation!

> > >

> > > And architects/builders are not made in one day or one year and after

reading one or two bricks! They waste a lot of material during practice before

they can sit back and look at their design and construction and say,

" AHHHHH...! "

> > >

> > > RR-,

> > >

> > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > //invariable this combination does give fracture or bone disorders as

well apart from poor relationship with father at times if good may live apart

say in hostals, relatives, friends or professionally they will be made to stay

away from one another//

> > > >

> > > > Well, So far I have neither had any fracture, or any bone

disorders(knock on wood!)..However, I do occasionally get muscle spasms/back

pains(poor posture), headaches etc.

> > > > I have always lived with my father for most of my live, and still do!

Never lived in a hostel, or with relatives, except in my childhood we had a

joined family with grandparents, aunts, uncles and everyone around.

> > > > Relationship is a two way street and there is always a limit to how

much responsibilities a man can take..When a man has to provide for his family

and at the same time also play a dual role of both mother and father some areas

of life is bound to suffer.

> > > >

> > > > Lilly

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear RRji, Lilly

> > > > >

> > > > > a v good point-distinction

> > > > >

> > > > > ravi+sani [sun+satn] aspect, conjunction anywhere does add to such a

situation as u have hinted and Lilly must note the same too as they r enemies

though father-sun in the Graha kutumba[ the celestial bodies family]

> > > > >

> > > > > invariable this combination does give fracture or bone disorders as

well apart from poor relationship with father at times if good may live apart

say in hostals, relatives, friends or professionally they will be made to stay

away from one another

> > > > >

> > > > > a case in point 22/2/59, 6.35 am, chennai

> > > > >

> > > > > father lived in Gulf for 17 yrs and overall relationship is v good

between the father son.

> > > > > here sun +merc r inAsc and he seperated from his wife after putting a

lot of effort in saving his marriage when it went beyond his toleanc limits a

very calm, composed gentleman.

> > > > >

> > > > > prashant

> > > > >

> > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > > >

/database?method=reportRows & tbl=6

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@>

> > > > >

> > > > > Tue, January 12, 2010 5:31:49 PM

> > > > > Re: Sun's Placement ! 12/1

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Find a chart which has the same ascendant as you with sun in 4th but

saturn not in cancer but elsewhere not making any association with sun and

compare notes about that person's relationship with his or her father :-)

> > > > >

> > > > > RR_,

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@

....> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > //this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological

magazines over the years esp in the late 80's//

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Do you happen to have a link to any of those articles by any chance

Prashant Ji?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Well, I happen to have Sun(representing father) in 4H and can tell

you it does cause some discomfort sitting in technically a mother's house.. I

have a great father who does love me unconditionally, but we really seem to be

at odds with each other sometimes.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lilly,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > u have already answered ur own question in many ways.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > as the leader of the Solar system sun has the key role in effects

the other planets in the system deliver/influence

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > say as Atmakaraka, as the Atman [soul of the chart] shows

inheritance, inherited disorders like cardiac, respiratory, ones

> > > > > > > the if there is a family line of activity then it shows the sun

placed in trines to fatgher/son or quadrants in most cases and successful

enterprises/ professions cold have it stronger in the 9-11 in their charts with

good Dig, shad balas

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > and as u said with other combinations, influences can add/deduct

the results of other bhavas

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sun in the st gives a weak constitution and with Budha sttisticall

if other factors prevail one gives up their spouse and if Merc [bidha+ravi [sun]

in the 7th the spouse seperates due to divorcenatural reasons like health/death

etc.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > all malefics in 3,6,10,11 are ver good and sun is n o exception in

other places does reduces the effects of the houses

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > say 4th one rarely is comfortable with father, paternal relatives

[as 4th represents the mother and her circles so is a odd entity there]

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological

magazines over the years esp inthe late 80's

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > prashant

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will

differ from non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to

verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the

Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder.

Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Tue, January 12, 2010 7:56:57 AM

> > > > > > > Sun's Placement !

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Astrology 101 tells us that Sun's placement in a birth chart is

extremely important in determining a person's direction in life.

> > > > > > > From what I remember I think it does quite well in 10th house( not

too sure about the other houses).

> > > > > > > Although considered a mild malefic, is actually an " auspicious "

planet.

> > > > > > > The Sun, as the natural atmakarma or soul, gives life force, the

power of will, intellect, brilliance, prosperity, success in worldly affairs,

wealth and many other wonderful things.

> > > > > > > However, it is also known that the Sun " burns " and " purifies " the

house he sits in. We already had a discussion earlier of how it may cause

divorce/ separation in 7H(of course the whole chart has to be assessed to get an

accurate picture).

> > > > > > > Can any member throw some " light " into how exactly does the " burn "

and " purifying " works in a chart?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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I meant " FROM " baba, not 'in'!

 

Speaking of sun, despite all the theoretical knowledge about not looking at the

sun particularly during a solar eclipse (blah blah blah) and having known a few

individuals who did actually do the stupid thing and became blind to varying

degrees, this morning I did the silly thing!

 

It was a very cloudy day here and suddenly my attention was drawn to the sky.

The dark clouds were streaming across what I could swear was the MOON! I KNEW it

was the SUN but it was so easy to accept it as the MOON! Very similar disk

diameters when seen from the earth!

 

The clouds shifted and a thinner patch arrived streaming across the SUN. The

light was intense but not intense enough to hurt or to make me blink! I drew

down the wire net blind and continued to look at the sun for a few seconds

longer. I was looking at it side-ways and not straight on!

 

All this was simply for a few seconds but then I had to get back to WORK and

before I took the homework out, I happened to glance at a white wall for a

second or two. The serendipitous gaze lasted longer because I saw that even the

mild encounter with the SUN left a mark! I could see a negative image of the sun

as I glanced at the white wall!

 

Even when Sun does not blind you, it seems to leave behind an 'after image'!

 

Beware of the Sun! It is not MOON :-)

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 wrote:

>

>

> Actually the sun did rise TODAY(where I live in the west):-), after many, many

days of darkness!

>

> aab ees " ROOSHANI " se aankhiya mechol gayein

> saab aab dundhla hee dundhla dikhta hai

>

> Lilly

>

>

>

>

> , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> >

> > What if the sun does not rise tomorrow, Tigress?

> >

> > Or worse...! What if it rises in the West? As we had always been using as

the metaphor for the impossible?

> >

> > East and West are rather meagre realities once we begin to consider our

(solar system's) place in the Galaxy! If the 2012 Scare was not put in our soul

by the MAYA, and so much written about it -- scaring, refreshing, soothing, and

so on, many of us would never have become aware of it as being an astronomical

reality!

> >

> > The world is not going to end on 21-12-2012 despite the earthquakes and

snowstorms and nearly thwarted human tragedies and so on that was witnessed

around the past Christmas -- but hopefully (and the Ancient Mayas had been

hoping and praying!) that we -- their descendents in a global sense, realize

that we (our solar system!) is but a infinitismal speck in the GRAND CREATION of

BRAHMA!

> >

> > Sometimes, in order to embrace the MACROCOSMOS, one must reach within to the

microcosmos! That is the only BINARY REALITY that we often ignore when we look

not OUTSIDE or within, but unfocussedly here and there and everywhere -- but

THERE!

> >

> > I am not sure whether you are familiar with Dobsonian telescopes. They

demand a 'setting-up' procedure. You have to find two bright stars (the manual

instructions are very clear!) in order to calibrate your " point of view " , your

'perspective'.

> >

> > Thereafter, you are free to explore the Universe, if you so wish!

> >

> > Or stick with Astrology! Same difference, as the cliché goes! But DO

something to move you out of the armchair or couch!!

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > STOP..STOP..,before I go blind!!

> > > You are throwing way too much " light " into joytisha! Don't you want to

leave some things for tomorrow..

> > >

> > > Lilly

> > >

> > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Lilly,

> > > >

> > > > I think you are 'running... " with a general statement that Prashant

made! I do not think he was talking about *your* chart :-)

> > > >

> > > > The biggest problem with astrology and particularly with beginners is

that they tend to run with it too literally! It does not work that way at all,

regardless of the fact that even so called CLASSICS are full of sun in this sign

or that house or in case of Saravali several combinations of planets in certain

houses type readings! They simply do not work consistently if one takes the time

to test those in many charts.

> > > >

> > > > If we use the rather uncommon common-sense (sorry if I am being a

curmudgeon!) it would be very readily apparent that if Astrology was just about

having a 'look-up' table where planets in signs or in houses or in nakshatra or

navamsha etc were equivalent to capsules of reading -- then a very basic

database software would be able to mete out the full readings! But this

experiment has been conducted and failed! In fact one software actually made a

heroic attempt to then translate and compost the logic (typo intenional) into a

nice looking reading but very quickly withdrew it without even a change in the

version number ;-) Those who spotted that did so by serendipity!

> > > >

> > > > Even if you take other pieces like Ashtakavarga and umpteen dashas,

padas and what not, the stew definitely gets richer and perhaps tastier and way

more nutritious than the planet in house planet in sign porridge (Daliya! Or

shall we say Sattu?) but then that just makes it a dish and not a gourmet but

nourishing feast for the body, mind and soul!

> > > >

> > > > No house can be built without basic material: bricks, wood, nails,

screws, metal strips, stone, cement, mortar, grout, tiles, dry-wall (or

equivalent in other countries), glass, blah blah blah! But then one must add the

'human touch' to convert a pile of construction material into a beautiful

architectural creation!

> > > >

> > > > And architects/builders are not made in one day or one year and after

reading one or two bricks! They waste a lot of material during practice before

they can sit back and look at their design and construction and say,

" AHHHHH...! "

> > > >

> > > > RR-,

> > > >

> > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > //invariable this combination does give fracture or bone disorders as

well apart from poor relationship with father at times if good may live apart

say in hostals, relatives, friends or professionally they will be made to stay

away from one another//

> > > > >

> > > > > Well, So far I have neither had any fracture, or any bone

disorders(knock on wood!)..However, I do occasionally get muscle spasms/back

pains(poor posture), headaches etc.

> > > > > I have always lived with my father for most of my live, and still do!

Never lived in a hostel, or with relatives, except in my childhood we had a

joined family with grandparents, aunts, uncles and everyone around.

> > > > > Relationship is a two way street and there is always a limit to how

much responsibilities a man can take..When a man has to provide for his family

and at the same time also play a dual role of both mother and father some areas

of life is bound to suffer.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lilly

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear RRji, Lilly

> > > > > >

> > > > > > a v good point-distinction

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ravi+sani [sun+satn] aspect, conjunction anywhere does add to such a

situation as u have hinted and Lilly must note the same too as they r enemies

though father-sun in the Graha kutumba[ the celestial bodies family]

> > > > > >

> > > > > > invariable this combination does give fracture or bone disorders as

well apart from poor relationship with father at times if good may live apart

say in hostals, relatives, friends or professionally they will be made to stay

away from one another

> > > > > >

> > > > > > a case in point 22/2/59, 6.35 am, chennai

> > > > > >

> > > > > > father lived in Gulf for 17 yrs and overall relationship is v good

between the father son.

> > > > > > here sun +merc r inAsc and he seperated from his wife after putting

a lot of effort in saving his marriage when it went beyond his toleanc limits a

very calm, composed gentleman.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > prashant

> > > > > >

> > > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > > > >

/database?method=reportRows & tbl=6

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Tue, January 12, 2010 5:31:49 PM

> > > > > > Re: Sun's Placement ! 12/1

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Find a chart which has the same ascendant as you with sun in 4th but

saturn not in cancer but elsewhere not making any association with sun and

compare notes about that person's relationship with his or her father :-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > //this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological

magazines over the years esp in the late 80's//

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Do you happen to have a link to any of those articles by any

chance Prashant Ji?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Well, I happen to have Sun(representing father) in 4H and can tell

you it does cause some discomfort sitting in technically a mother's house.. I

have a great father who does love me unconditionally, but we really seem to be

at odds with each other sometimes.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lilly,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > u have already answered ur own question in many ways.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > as the leader of the Solar system sun has the key role in

effects the other planets in the system deliver/influence

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > say as Atmakaraka, as the Atman [soul of the chart] shows

inheritance, inherited disorders like cardiac, respiratory, ones

> > > > > > > > the if there is a family line of activity then it shows the sun

placed in trines to fatgher/son or quadrants in most cases and successful

enterprises/ professions cold have it stronger in the 9-11 in their charts with

good Dig, shad balas

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > and as u said with other combinations, influences can add/deduct

the results of other bhavas

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sun in the st gives a weak constitution and with Budha

sttisticall if other factors prevail one gives up their spouse and if Merc

[bidha+ravi [sun] in the 7th the spouse seperates due to divorcenatural reasons

like health/death etc.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > all malefics in 3,6,10,11 are ver good and sun is n o exception

in other places does reduces the effects of the houses

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > say 4th one rarely is comfortable with father, paternal

relatives [as 4th represents the mother and her circles so is a odd entity

there]

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological

magazines over the years esp inthe late 80's

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > prashant

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will

differ from non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to

verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the

Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder.

Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Tue, January 12, 2010 7:56:57 AM

> > > > > > > > Sun's Placement !

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Astrology 101 tells us that Sun's placement in a birth chart is

extremely important in determining a person's direction in life.

> > > > > > > > From what I remember I think it does quite well in 10th house(

not too sure about the other houses).

> > > > > > > > Although considered a mild malefic, is actually an " auspicious "

planet.

> > > > > > > > The Sun, as the natural atmakarma or soul, gives life force, the

power of will, intellect, brilliance, prosperity, success in worldly affairs,

wealth and many other wonderful things.

> > > > > > > > However, it is also known that the Sun " burns " and " purifies "

the house he sits in. We already had a discussion earlier of how it may cause

divorce/ separation in 7H(of course the whole chart has to be assessed to get an

accurate picture).

> > > > > > > > Can any member throw some " light " into how exactly does the

" burn " and " purifying " works in a chart?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

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The brahmaand is way better defined in the Scriptures etc. than the " I " or 'US'.

 

Hence the confusion and room for 'free-will' and personal growth!!

 

RR_,

 

, " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 wrote:

>

>

> But I thought the entire " BRAMHAND " , the cosmos was within us!

> Shivoam Brahamashmi!

>

>

> Lilly

>

>

> , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> >

> > What if the sun does not rise tomorrow, Tigress?

> >

> > Or worse...! What if it rises in the West? As we had always been using as

the metaphor for the impossible?

> >

> > East and West are rather meagre realities once we begin to consider our

(solar system's) place in the Galaxy! If the 2012 Scare was not put in our soul

by the MAYA, and so much written about it -- scaring, refreshing, soothing, and

so on, many of us would never have become aware of it as being an astronomical

reality!

> >

> > The world is not going to end on 21-12-2012 despite the earthquakes and

snowstorms and nearly thwarted human tragedies and so on that was witnessed

around the past Christmas -- but hopefully (and the Ancient Mayas had been

hoping and praying!) that we -- their descendents in a global sense, realize

that we (our solar system!) is but a infinitismal speck in the GRAND CREATION of

BRAHMA!

> >

> > Sometimes, in order to embrace the MACROCOSMOS, one must reach within to the

microcosmos! That is the only BINARY REALITY that we often ignore when we look

not OUTSIDE or within, but unfocussedly here and there and everywhere -- but

THERE!

> >

> > I am not sure whether you are familiar with Dobsonian telescopes. They

demand a 'setting-up' procedure. You have to find two bright stars (the manual

instructions are very clear!) in order to calibrate your " point of view " , your

'perspective'.

> >

> > Thereafter, you are free to explore the Universe, if you so wish!

> >

> > Or stick with Astrology! Same difference, as the cliché goes! But DO

something to move you out of the armchair or couch!!

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > STOP..STOP..,before I go blind!!

> > > You are throwing way too much " light " into joytisha! Don't you want to

leave some things for tomorrow..

> > >

> > > Lilly

> > >

> > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Lilly,

> > > >

> > > > I think you are 'running... " with a general statement that Prashant

made! I do not think he was talking about *your* chart :-)

> > > >

> > > > The biggest problem with astrology and particularly with beginners is

that they tend to run with it too literally! It does not work that way at all,

regardless of the fact that even so called CLASSICS are full of sun in this sign

or that house or in case of Saravali several combinations of planets in certain

houses type readings! They simply do not work consistently if one takes the time

to test those in many charts.

> > > >

> > > > If we use the rather uncommon common-sense (sorry if I am being a

curmudgeon!) it would be very readily apparent that if Astrology was just about

having a 'look-up' table where planets in signs or in houses or in nakshatra or

navamsha etc were equivalent to capsules of reading -- then a very basic

database software would be able to mete out the full readings! But this

experiment has been conducted and failed! In fact one software actually made a

heroic attempt to then translate and compost the logic (typo intenional) into a

nice looking reading but very quickly withdrew it without even a change in the

version number ;-) Those who spotted that did so by serendipity!

> > > >

> > > > Even if you take other pieces like Ashtakavarga and umpteen dashas,

padas and what not, the stew definitely gets richer and perhaps tastier and way

more nutritious than the planet in house planet in sign porridge (Daliya! Or

shall we say Sattu?) but then that just makes it a dish and not a gourmet but

nourishing feast for the body, mind and soul!

> > > >

> > > > No house can be built without basic material: bricks, wood, nails,

screws, metal strips, stone, cement, mortar, grout, tiles, dry-wall (or

equivalent in other countries), glass, blah blah blah! But then one must add the

'human touch' to convert a pile of construction material into a beautiful

architectural creation!

> > > >

> > > > And architects/builders are not made in one day or one year and after

reading one or two bricks! They waste a lot of material during practice before

they can sit back and look at their design and construction and say,

" AHHHHH...! "

> > > >

> > > > RR-,

> > > >

> > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > //invariable this combination does give fracture or bone disorders as

well apart from poor relationship with father at times if good may live apart

say in hostals, relatives, friends or professionally they will be made to stay

away from one another//

> > > > >

> > > > > Well, So far I have neither had any fracture, or any bone

disorders(knock on wood!)..However, I do occasionally get muscle spasms/back

pains(poor posture), headaches etc.

> > > > > I have always lived with my father for most of my live, and still do!

Never lived in a hostel, or with relatives, except in my childhood we had a

joined family with grandparents, aunts, uncles and everyone around.

> > > > > Relationship is a two way street and there is always a limit to how

much responsibilities a man can take..When a man has to provide for his family

and at the same time also play a dual role of both mother and father some areas

of life is bound to suffer.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lilly

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear RRji, Lilly

> > > > > >

> > > > > > a v good point-distinction

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ravi+sani [sun+satn] aspect, conjunction anywhere does add to such a

situation as u have hinted and Lilly must note the same too as they r enemies

though father-sun in the Graha kutumba[ the celestial bodies family]

> > > > > >

> > > > > > invariable this combination does give fracture or bone disorders as

well apart from poor relationship with father at times if good may live apart

say in hostals, relatives, friends or professionally they will be made to stay

away from one another

> > > > > >

> > > > > > a case in point 22/2/59, 6.35 am, chennai

> > > > > >

> > > > > > father lived in Gulf for 17 yrs and overall relationship is v good

between the father son.

> > > > > > here sun +merc r inAsc and he seperated from his wife after putting

a lot of effort in saving his marriage when it went beyond his toleanc limits a

very calm, composed gentleman.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > prashant

> > > > > >

> > > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > > > >

/database?method=reportRows & tbl=6

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Tue, January 12, 2010 5:31:49 PM

> > > > > > Re: Sun's Placement ! 12/1

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Find a chart which has the same ascendant as you with sun in 4th but

saturn not in cancer but elsewhere not making any association with sun and

compare notes about that person's relationship with his or her father :-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > //this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological

magazines over the years esp in the late 80's//

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Do you happen to have a link to any of those articles by any

chance Prashant Ji?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Well, I happen to have Sun(representing father) in 4H and can tell

you it does cause some discomfort sitting in technically a mother's house.. I

have a great father who does love me unconditionally, but we really seem to be

at odds with each other sometimes.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lilly,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > u have already answered ur own question in many ways.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > as the leader of the Solar system sun has the key role in

effects the other planets in the system deliver/influence

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > say as Atmakaraka, as the Atman [soul of the chart] shows

inheritance, inherited disorders like cardiac, respiratory, ones

> > > > > > > > the if there is a family line of activity then it shows the sun

placed in trines to fatgher/son or quadrants in most cases and successful

enterprises/ professions cold have it stronger in the 9-11 in their charts with

good Dig, shad balas

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > and as u said with other combinations, influences can add/deduct

the results of other bhavas

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sun in the st gives a weak constitution and with Budha

sttisticall if other factors prevail one gives up their spouse and if Merc

[bidha+ravi [sun] in the 7th the spouse seperates due to divorcenatural reasons

like health/death etc.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > all malefics in 3,6,10,11 are ver good and sun is n o exception

in other places does reduces the effects of the houses

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > say 4th one rarely is comfortable with father, paternal

relatives [as 4th represents the mother and her circles so is a odd entity

there]

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological

magazines over the years esp inthe late 80's

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > prashant

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will

differ from non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to

verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the

Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder.

Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Tue, January 12, 2010 7:56:57 AM

> > > > > > > > Sun's Placement !

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Astrology 101 tells us that Sun's placement in a birth chart is

extremely important in determining a person's direction in life.

> > > > > > > > From what I remember I think it does quite well in 10th house(

not too sure about the other houses).

> > > > > > > > Although considered a mild malefic, is actually an " auspicious "

planet.

> > > > > > > > The Sun, as the natural atmakarma or soul, gives life force, the

power of will, intellect, brilliance, prosperity, success in worldly affairs,

wealth and many other wonderful things.

> > > > > > > > However, it is also known that the Sun " burns " and " purifies "

the house he sits in. We already had a discussion earlier of how it may cause

divorce/ separation in 7H(of course the whole chart has to be assessed to get an

accurate picture).

> > > > > > > > Can any member throw some " light " into how exactly does the

" burn " and " purifying " works in a chart?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

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Dear Members.

Plcement of Planets with reference to lagna in first seven signs of in visible

half and the next seven commencing from7th(libra).Such understanding however

comes with bahva chart and makes it meaningful for the struggles(through saturn)

and achievements(through sun).

Sun gets exalted in Aries,is the first house Aries(kalpurusha Chakra.where as

saturn exalts in 7th house,the first sign of visible half of kalchakra.AS all we

know 7th sign is libra.

Thus it denotes saturn and Sun in mutual opposition denotes rise in life only to

fall.

Sun symbolising for ego is bound to be self centered and lopsided and not

judiciously balanced.

These views of Shri H.R.Shankar certainly helpful for our further

deliberationsLot has been conjured about the atmakaraka.soul and father etc.in

this thread.Sun as the soul probably carries a lot of significance in our

language of planets/symbols.

Shri H.R.Shankar in A.M(Aug 1986) mentioned " Status of the Soul,that has taken in

this Life " .

Accordingly position of the Sun is PIVOTAL POINT in Horoscope.......Lagna is

the diurnal position of Sun

Father (sun),the seed from which the life sprouts

further:

the kind of contribution each planet makes with reference to the Lagna or the

soul detrmines whether it malefic or benific depending upon the manner in which

(planets) help the soul to achieve it;s objective.

These points of Shri H.R Shankar to ponder 

 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Tue, 1/12/10, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote:

 

 

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

Re: Sun's Placement ! 12/1

 

Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 1:35 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lily

 

as said by u also there r other factors that add or deduct the possible scene in

case no accident combinations r not there no injuries

 

similalry if sun is not in Asc or 4 or 6th over all health can be better.

 

but as said these r stats with some research by some good astgros of the past

golden era of astrologers

 

e.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow

s & tbl=6

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ >

 

Tue, January 12, 2010 11:37:52 PM

Re: Sun's Placement ! 12/1

 

//invariable this combination does give fracture or bone disorders as well apart

from poor relationship with father at times if good may live apart say in

hostals, relatives, friends or professionally they will be made to stay away

from one another//

 

Well, So far I have neither had any fracture, or any bone disorders(knock on

wood!)..However, I do occasionally get muscle spasms/back pains(poor posture),

headaches etc.

I have always lived with my father for most of my live, and still do! Never

lived in a hostel, or with relatives, except in my childhood we had a joined

family with grandparents, aunts, uncles and everyone around.

Relationship is a two way street and there is always a limit to how much

responsibilities a man can take..When a man has to provide for his family and at

the same time also play a dual role of both mother and father some areas of life

is bound to suffer.

 

Lilly

 

, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@. ...>

wrote:

>

> Dear RRji, Lilly

>

> a v good point-distinction

>

> ravi+sani [sun+satn] aspect, conjunction anywhere does add to such a situation

as u have hinted and Lilly must note the same too as they r enemies though

father-sun in the Graha kutumba[ the celestial bodies family]

>

> invariable this combination does give fracture or bone disorders as well apart

from poor relationship with father at times if good may live apart say in

hostals, relatives, friends or professionally they will be made to stay away

from one another

>

> a case in point 22/2/59, 6.35 am, chennai

>

> father lived in Gulf for 17 yrs and overall relationship is v good between the

father son.

> here sun +merc r inAsc and he seperated from his wife after putting a lot of

effort in saving his marriage when it went beyond his toleanc limits a very

calm, composed gentleman.

>

> prashant

>

> - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow

s & tbl=6

>

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

>

> Tue, January 12, 2010 5:31:49 PM

> Re: Sun's Placement ! 12/1

>

>

> Find a chart which has the same ascendant as you with sun in 4th but saturn

not in cancer but elsewhere not making any association with sun and compare

notes about that person's relationship with his or her father :-)

>

> RR_,

>

> , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...>

wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > //this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological magazines

over the years esp in the late 80's//

> >

> > Do you happen to have a link to any of those articles by any chance Prashant

Ji?

> >

> > Well, I happen to have Sun(representing father) in 4H and can tell you it

does cause some discomfort sitting in technically a mother's house.. I have a

great father who does love me unconditionally, but we really seem to be at odds

with each other sometimes.

> >

> >

> > Lilly

> >

> >

> > , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Lilly,

> > >

> > > u have already answered ur own question in many ways.

> > >

> > > as the leader of the Solar system sun has the key role in effects the

other planets in the system deliver/influence

> > >

> > > say as Atmakaraka, as the Atman [soul of the chart] shows inheritance,

inherited disorders like cardiac, respiratory, ones

> > > the if there is a family line of activity then it shows the sun placed in

trines to fatgher/son or quadrants in most cases and successful enterprises/

professions cold have it stronger in the 9-11 in their charts with good Dig,

shad balas

> > >

> > > and as u said with other combinations, influences can add/deduct the

results of other bhavas

> > >

> > > Sun in the st gives a weak constitution and with Budha sttisticall if

other factors prevail one gives up their spouse and if Merc [bidha+ravi [sun] in

the 7th the spouse seperates due to divorcenatural reasons like health/death

etc.

> > >

> > > all malefics in 3,6,10,11 are ver good and sun is n o exception in other

places does reduces the effects of the houses

> > >

> > > say 4th one rarely is comfortable with father, paternal relatives [as 4th

represents the mother and her circles so is a odd entity there]

> > >

> > > this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological magazines

over the years esp inthe late 80's

> > >

> > > prashant

> > >

> > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from

non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur

birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures

folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder.

Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ >

> > >

> > > Tue, January 12, 2010 7:56:57 AM

> > > Sun's Placement !

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Members,

> > >

> > > Astrology 101 tells us that Sun's placement in a birth chart is extremely

important in determining a person's direction in life.

> > > From what I remember I think it does quite well in 10th house( not too

sure about the other houses).

> > > Although considered a mild malefic, is actually an " auspicious " planet.

> > > The Sun, as the natural atmakarma or soul, gives life force, the power of

will, intellect, brilliance, prosperity, success in worldly affairs, wealth and

many other wonderful things.

> > > However, it is also known that the Sun " burns " and " purifies " the house he

sits in. We already had a discussion earlier of how it may cause divorce/

separation in 7H(of course the whole chart has to be assessed to get an accurate

picture).

> > > Can any member throw some " light " into how exactly does the " burn " and

" purifying " works in a chart?

> > >

> > > Lilly

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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If sun were unbalanced and lop-sided, dada, would Bode's law operate as it does

and predicted non-identified/discovered planets?

 

Unless the astrological sun that you talk and quote about is different from the

sun that we wake up to and work under, most of us anyways?

 

Long ago, I had an encounter with 'Sun-Factor', that plagues Jyotishis

(sudarshan chakra types) and tropical astrologers! I have written about it

earlier.

 

In Eysenck and Nias' book on astrology and superstition there is an european

study quoted that *examined* the correlation of tropical sunsigns and

professions and the conclusion was: They do not correlate reliably!

 

I was a student in India back then (mid-70s) working on my thesis, but felt

motivated to challenge the psychologist that brought some interesting and

important insights and tests about intelligence and so forth.

 

My question was simple: " Did this study, Dr. Eysenck, look at the correlation

between profession, sun sign and 10th house rulership of SUN in the individual

charts? And did it consider the fact that a large number of astrologers in India

would have placed the SUN in a different sign, because there is a sidereal

zodiac! "

 

The kind European gentleman, and an admirable and admired scholar in his field,

did write back! When they (E and N) were researching for their book, they did

not hear back from any Indian astrologer! Essentially, they did not take into

consideration JYOTISH!

 

I was frankly quite taken aback! I was under the impression that through all

those lectures and visits to Europe and USA, Prof. BV Raman had made sure that

the voice of Jyotish was well-known or at least heard in the west!

 

Then I read about Alan Leo, his correspondence with the Raman Family and then

the utilization of the DWADs (dwadashamsha) in Tropical astrology and the whole

concept about Harmonics!

 

I suppose we all are Human beings, even though we talk about the DIVINE as if

they were just recently here to share a pot of tea with us earthly folks!

 

Don't waste time educating just your neighbours! They already know or are too

Jaded anyways!

 

RR_,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

>

> Dear Members.

> Plcement of Planets with reference to lagna in first seven signs of in visible

half and the next seven commencing from7th(libra).Such understanding however

comes with bahva chart and makes it meaningful for the struggles(through saturn)

and achievements(through sun).

> Sun gets exalted in Aries,is the first house Aries(kalpurusha Chakra.where as

saturn exalts in 7th house,the first sign of visible half of kalchakra.AS all we

know 7th sign is libra.

> Thus it denotes saturn and Sun in mutual opposition denotes rise in life only

to fall.

> Sun symbolising for ego is bound to be self centered and lopsided and not

judiciously balanced.

> These views of Shri H.R.Shankar certainly helpful for our further

deliberationsLot has been conjured about the atmakaraka.soul and father etc.in

this thread.Sun as the soul probably carries a lot of significance in our

language of planets/symbols.

> Shri H.R.Shankar in A.M(Aug 1986) mentioned " Status of the Soul,that has taken

in this Life " .

> Accordingly position of the Sun is PIVOTAL POINT in Horoscope.......Lagna is

> the diurnal position of Sun

> Father (sun),the seed from which the life sprouts

> further:

> the kind of contribution each planet makes with reference to the Lagna or the

soul detrmines whether it malefic or benific depending upon the manner in which

(planets) help the soul to achieve it;s objective.

> These points of Shri H.R Shankar to ponder 

>

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

> Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>  

>

> --- On Tue, 1/12/10, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote:

>

>

> Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

> Re: Sun's Placement ! 12/1

>

> Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 1:35 PM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> Lily

>

> as said by u also there r other factors that add or deduct the possible scene

in case no accident combinations r not there no injuries

>

> similalry if sun is not in Asc or 4 or 6th over all health can be better.

>

> but as said these r stats with some research by some good astgros of the past

golden era of astrologers

>

> e.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow

s & tbl=6

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ >

>

> Tue, January 12, 2010 11:37:52 PM

> Re: Sun's Placement ! 12/1

>

> //invariable this combination does give fracture or bone disorders as well

apart from poor relationship with father at times if good may live apart say in

hostals, relatives, friends or professionally they will be made to stay away

from one another//

>

> Well, So far I have neither had any fracture, or any bone disorders(knock on

wood!)..However, I do occasionally get muscle spasms/back pains(poor posture),

headaches etc.

> I have always lived with my father for most of my live, and still do! Never

lived in a hostel, or with relatives, except in my childhood we had a joined

family with grandparents, aunts, uncles and everyone around.

> Relationship is a two way street and there is always a limit to how much

responsibilities a man can take..When a man has to provide for his family and at

the same time also play a dual role of both mother and father some areas of life

is bound to suffer.

>

> Lilly

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ...>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear RRji, Lilly

> >

> > a v good point-distinction

> >

> > ravi+sani [sun+satn] aspect, conjunction anywhere does add to such a

situation as u have hinted and Lilly must note the same too as they r enemies

though father-sun in the Graha kutumba[ the celestial bodies family]

> >

> > invariable this combination does give fracture or bone disorders as well

apart from poor relationship with father at times if good may live apart say in

hostals, relatives, friends or professionally they will be made to stay away

from one another

> >

> > a case in point 22/2/59, 6.35 am, chennai

> >

> > father lived in Gulf for 17 yrs and overall relationship is v good between

the father son.

> > here sun +merc r inAsc and he seperated from his wife after putting a lot of

effort in saving his marriage when it went beyond his toleanc limits a very

calm, composed gentleman.

> >

> > prashant

> >

> > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> >

> > Tue, January 12, 2010 5:31:49 PM

> > Re: Sun's Placement ! 12/1

> >

> >

> > Find a chart which has the same ascendant as you with sun in 4th but saturn

not in cancer but elsewhere not making any association with sun and compare

notes about that person's relationship with his or her father :-)

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...>

wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > //this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological magazines

over the years esp in the late 80's//

> > >

> > > Do you happen to have a link to any of those articles by any chance

Prashant Ji?

> > >

> > > Well, I happen to have Sun(representing father) in 4H and can tell you it

does cause some discomfort sitting in technically a mother's house.. I have a

great father who does love me unconditionally, but we really seem to be at odds

with each other sometimes.

> > >

> > >

> > > Lilly

> > >

> > >

> > > , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Lilly,

> > > >

> > > > u have already answered ur own question in many ways.

> > > >

> > > > as the leader of the Solar system sun has the key role in effects the

other planets in the system deliver/influence

> > > >

> > > > say as Atmakaraka, as the Atman [soul of the chart] shows inheritance,

inherited disorders like cardiac, respiratory, ones

> > > > the if there is a family line of activity then it shows the sun placed

in trines to fatgher/son or quadrants in most cases and successful enterprises/

professions cold have it stronger in the 9-11 in their charts with good Dig,

shad balas

> > > >

> > > > and as u said with other combinations, influences can add/deduct the

results of other bhavas

> > > >

> > > > Sun in the st gives a weak constitution and with Budha sttisticall if

other factors prevail one gives up their spouse and if Merc [bidha+ravi [sun] in

the 7th the spouse seperates due to divorcenatural reasons like health/death

etc.

> > > >

> > > > all malefics in 3,6,10,11 are ver good and sun is n o exception in other

places does reduces the effects of the houses

> > > >

> > > > say 4th one rarely is comfortable with father, paternal relatives [as

4th represents the mother and her circles so is a odd entity there]

> > > >

> > > > this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological magazines

over the years esp inthe late 80's

> > > >

> > > > prashant

> > > >

> > > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from

non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur

birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures

folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder.

Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ >

> > > >

> > > > Tue, January 12, 2010 7:56:57 AM

> > > > Sun's Placement !

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Members,

> > > >

> > > > Astrology 101 tells us that Sun's placement in a birth chart is

extremely important in determining a person's direction in life.

> > > > From what I remember I think it does quite well in 10th house( not too

sure about the other houses).

> > > > Although considered a mild malefic, is actually an " auspicious " planet.

> > > > The Sun, as the natural atmakarma or soul, gives life force, the power

of will, intellect, brilliance, prosperity, success in worldly affairs, wealth

and many other wonderful things.

> > > > However, it is also known that the Sun " burns " and " purifies " the house

he sits in. We already had a discussion earlier of how it may cause divorce/

separation in 7H(of course the whole chart has to be assessed to get an accurate

picture).

> > > > Can any member throw some " light " into how exactly does the " burn " and

" purifying " works in a chart?

> > > >

> > > > Lilly

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Dear Dada,

Occassions for interaction and involvelement arise as the discussion on the

topic involved and the reference made used.At that point we do not understand or

think of neighbours.winter times cup of tea is always is refreshing and that if

one is not out of dungeons.

1.We can not ignore composition of internet forums.This thread being shared is "

for of tea "

Secondly

 

2.//already know or are too Jaded anyways!//Perhaps this is where concept of Ma

helps and invigoartes for all of us to understand working of Other Nature.

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Wed, 1/13/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote:

 

 

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

Re: Sun's Placement ! 12/1

 

Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 12:43 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

If sun were unbalanced and lop-sided, dada, would Bode's law operate as it does

and predicted non-identified/ discovered planets?

 

Unless the astrological sun that you talk and quote about is different from the

sun that we wake up to and work under, most of us anyways?

 

Long ago, I had an encounter with 'Sun-Factor' , that plagues Jyotishis

(sudarshan chakra types) and tropical astrologers! I have written about it

earlier.

 

In Eysenck and Nias' book on astrology and superstition there is an european

study quoted that *examined* the correlation of tropical sunsigns and

professions and the conclusion was: They do not correlate reliably!

 

I was a student in India back then (mid-70s) working on my thesis, but felt

motivated to challenge the psychologist that brought some interesting and

important insights and tests about intelligence and so forth.

 

My question was simple: " Did this study, Dr. Eysenck, look at the correlation

between profession, sun sign and 10th house rulership of SUN in the individual

charts? And did it consider the fact that a large number of astrologers in India

would have placed the SUN in a different sign, because there is a sidereal

zodiac! "

 

The kind European gentleman, and an admirable and admired scholar in his field,

did write back! When they (E and N) were researching for their book, they did

not hear back from any Indian astrologer! Essentially, they did not take into

consideration JYOTISH!

 

I was frankly quite taken aback! I was under the impression that through all

those lectures and visits to Europe and USA, Prof. BV Raman had made sure that

the voice of Jyotish was well-known or at least heard in the west!

 

Then I read about Alan Leo, his correspondence with the Raman Family and then

the utilization of the DWADs (dwadashamsha) in Tropical astrology and the whole

concept about Harmonics!

 

I suppose we all are Human beings, even though we talk about the DIVINE as if

they were just recently here to share a pot of tea with us earthly folks!

 

Don't waste time educating just your neighbours! They already know or are too

Jaded anyways!

 

RR_,

 

, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..>

wrote:

>

> Dear Members.

> Plcement of Planets with reference to lagna in first seven signs of in visible

half and the next seven commencing from7th(libra) .Such understanding however

comes with bahva chart and makes it meaningful for the struggles(through saturn)

and achievements( through sun).

> Sun gets exalted in Aries,is the first house Aries(kalpurusha Chakra.where as

saturn exalts in 7th house,the first sign of visible half of kalchakra..AS all

we know 7th sign is libra.

> Thus it denotes saturn and Sun in mutual opposition denotes rise in life only

to fall.

> Sun symbolising for ego is bound to be self centered and lopsided and not

judiciously balanced.

> These views of Shri H.R.Shankar certainly helpful for our further

deliberationsLot has been conjured about the atmakaraka.soul and father etc.in

this thread.Sun as the soul probably carries a lot of significance in our

language of planets/symbols.

> Shri H.R.Shankar in A.M(Aug 1986) mentioned " Status of the Soul,that has taken

in this Life " .

> Accordingly position of the Sun is PIVOTAL POINT in Horoscope... ....Lagna is

> the diurnal position of Sun

> Father (sun),the seed from which the life sprouts

> further:

> the kind of contribution each planet makes with reference to the Lagna or the

soul detrmines whether it malefic or benific depending upon the manner in which

(planets) help the soul to achieve it;s objective.

> These points of Shri H.R Shankar to ponder 

>

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

> Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>  

>

> --- On Tue, 1/12/10, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@. ..> wrote:

>

>

> Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@. ..>

> Re: Sun's Placement ! 12/1

>

> Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 1:35 PM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> Lily

>

> as said by u also there r other factors that add or deduct the possible scene

in case no accident combinations r not there no injuries

>

> similalry if sun is not in Asc or 4 or 6th over all health can be better.

>

> but as said these r stats with some research by some good astgros of the past

golden era of astrologers

>

> e.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow

s & tbl=6

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ >

>

> Tue, January 12, 2010 11:37:52 PM

> Re: Sun's Placement ! 12/1

>

> //invariable this combination does give fracture or bone disorders as well

apart from poor relationship with father at times if good may live apart say in

hostals, relatives, friends or professionally they will be made to stay away

from one another//

>

> Well, So far I have neither had any fracture, or any bone disorders(knock on

wood!)..However, I do occasionally get muscle spasms/back pains(poor posture),

headaches etc.

> I have always lived with my father for most of my live, and still do! Never

lived in a hostel, or with relatives, except in my childhood we had a joined

family with grandparents, aunts, uncles and everyone around.

> Relationship is a two way street and there is always a limit to how much

responsibilities a man can take..When a man has to provide for his family and at

the same time also play a dual role of both mother and father some areas of life

is bound to suffer.

>

> Lilly

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ...>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear RRji, Lilly

> >

> > a v good point-distinction

> >

> > ravi+sani [sun+satn] aspect, conjunction anywhere does add to such a

situation as u have hinted and Lilly must note the same too as they r enemies

though father-sun in the Graha kutumba[ the celestial bodies family]

> >

> > invariable this combination does give fracture or bone disorders as well

apart from poor relationship with father at times if good may live apart say in

hostals, relatives, friends or professionally they will be made to stay away

from one another

> >

> > a case in point 22/2/59, 6.35 am, chennai

> >

> > father lived in Gulf for 17 yrs and overall relationship is v good between

the father son.

> > here sun +merc r inAsc and he seperated from his wife after putting a lot of

effort in saving his marriage when it went beyond his toleanc limits a very

calm, composed gentleman.

> >

> > prashant

> >

> > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> >

> > Tue, January 12, 2010 5:31:49 PM

> > Re: Sun's Placement ! 12/1

> >

> >

> > Find a chart which has the same ascendant as you with sun in 4th but saturn

not in cancer but elsewhere not making any association with sun and compare

notes about that person's relationship with his or her father :-)

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ....>

wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > //this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological magazines

over the years esp in the late 80's//

> > >

> > > Do you happen to have a link to any of those articles by any chance

Prashant Ji?

> > >

> > > Well, I happen to have Sun(representing father) in 4H and can tell you it

does cause some discomfort sitting in technically a mother's house.. I have a

great father who does love me unconditionally, but we really seem to be at odds

with each other sometimes.

> > >

> > >

> > > Lilly

> > >

> > >

> > > , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Lilly,

> > > >

> > > > u have already answered ur own question in many ways.

> > > >

> > > > as the leader of the Solar system sun has the key role in effects the

other planets in the system deliver/influence

> > > >

> > > > say as Atmakaraka, as the Atman [soul of the chart] shows inheritance,

inherited disorders like cardiac, respiratory, ones

> > > > the if there is a family line of activity then it shows the sun placed

in trines to fatgher/son or quadrants in most cases and successful enterprises/

professions cold have it stronger in the 9-11 in their charts with good Dig,

shad balas

> > > >

> > > > and as u said with other combinations, influences can add/deduct the

results of other bhavas

> > > >

> > > > Sun in the st gives a weak constitution and with Budha sttisticall if

other factors prevail one gives up their spouse and if Merc [bidha+ravi [sun] in

the 7th the spouse seperates due to divorcenatural reasons like health/death

etc.

> > > >

> > > > all malefics in 3,6,10,11 are ver good and sun is n o exception in other

places does reduces the effects of the houses

> > > >

> > > > say 4th one rarely is comfortable with father, paternal relatives [as

4th represents the mother and her circles so is a odd entity there]

> > > >

> > > > this theory has been researched by H R SHANKAR in astrological magazines

over the years esp inthe late 80's

> > > >

> > > > prashant

> > > >

> > > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from

non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur

birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures

folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder..

Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ >

> > > >

> > > > Tue, January 12, 2010 7:56:57 AM

> > > > Sun's Placement !

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Members,

> > > >

> > > > Astrology 101 tells us that Sun's placement in a birth chart is

extremely important in determining a person's direction in life.

> > > > From what I remember I think it does quite well in 10th house( not too

sure about the other houses).

> > > > Although considered a mild malefic, is actually an " auspicious " planet.

> > > > The Sun, as the natural atmakarma or soul, gives life force, the power

of will, intellect, brilliance, prosperity, success in worldly affairs, wealth

and many other wonderful things.

> > > > However, it is also known that the Sun " burns " and " purifies " the house

he sits in. We already had a discussion earlier of how it may cause divorce/

separation in 7H(of course the whole chart has to be assessed to get an accurate

picture).

> > > > Can any member throw some " light " into how exactly does the " burn " and

" purifying " works in a chart?

> > > >

> > > > Lilly

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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