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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

 

> ah grasshopper..

>

> it is both and neither.

>

> David Carradine died today.

>

> no more Kung Fu for him.

>

> .b b.b.

 

It was not a dignified way to end the adventure.

 

Peter Pan would not approve.

 

Thanks to the information age, the details are all over the internet.

 

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

>

> > ah grasshopper..

> >

> > it is both and neither.

> >

> > David Carradine died today.

> >

> > no more Kung Fu for him.

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> It was not a dignified way to end the adventure.

 

No, it wasn't... but is the end of " the John Doe project " ever dignified? ;-).

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > We desagree in some aspects. When I talk of insights I am not at all

trying

> > > to bring back some kind of an experience. Not trying to remember something

> > > at all neither. But the fact of the insight is. It is a flash of

perception

> > > of impersonal non-duality. The impersonal being of what is as this. I dont

> > > know what ongoing non-duality is. I dont want to kind of " force things in

a

> > > way that might seem as if I did grasp what it might be " . Sometimes I feel

I

> > > am about to see something new, specialy regarding the relativity of time

and

> > > timelessness or their co-existence. Something like time and timelessness

are

> > > not mutualy exclusive. It is all very interesting and I enjoy the whole

> > > game - I love it.

> > > -geo-

> > >

> >

> > yes, you're having an " adventure. "

> >

> > good luck with it ...

> >

> > - d -

>

> Nobody's really " having " anything.

>

> The notion of that merely arises every once in awhile.

>

> But, not really ;-).

 

 

it's an attempted adventure.

 

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > We desagree in some aspects. When I talk of insights I am not at all

trying

> > > > to bring back some kind of an experience. Not trying to remember

something

> > > > at all neither. But the fact of the insight is. It is a flash of

perception

> > > > of impersonal non-duality. The impersonal being of what is as this. I

dont

> > > > know what ongoing non-duality is. I dont want to kind of " force things

in a

> > > > way that might seem as if I did grasp what it might be " . Sometimes I

feel I

> > > > am about to see something new, specialy regarding the relativity of time

and

> > > > timelessness or their co-existence. Something like time and timelessness

are

> > > > not mutualy exclusive. It is all very interesting and I enjoy the whole

> > > > game - I love it.

> > > > -geo-

> > > >

> > >

> > > yes, you're having an " adventure. "

> > >

> > > good luck with it ...

> > >

> > > - d -

> >

> > Nobody's really " having " anything.

> >

> > The notion of that merely arises every once in awhile.

> >

> > But, not really ;-).

>

>

> it's an attempted adventure.

>

> - d -

 

Not really... nobody really wants this sort of 'adventure'. It just happens, as

life does, and ends, as life does.

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

>

> -

> dan330033

> Nisargadatta

> Thursday, June 04, 2009 11:19 PM

> Re: me know nothing

>

>

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > -

> > dan330033

> > Nisargadatta

> > Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:04 PM

> > Re: me know nothing

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > Michael Adamson

> > > Nisargadatta

> > > Thursday, June 04, 2009 7:11 PM

> > > Re: me know nothing

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > Something remembers that a something HUGE and imensily relevant is

> > > > having

> > > > its own existence. This something loves it...and wants it again

> > > > because

> > > > it

> > > > was wonderfull.

> > > > -geo-

> > >

> > >

> > > In my view, a certain " thrill " left an " impact " followed by the desire

> > > to

> > > " want, have, or possess " that " HUGE experience " again via various

> > > strategies. These attemptings ARE psychophysical

> > > " contractionings/tensionings " which effectively prevent the recognition

> > > that

> > > what is being sought is that which is prior to (yet also ever-present at

> > > the

> > > same time as) the seeking (the attempt to get).

> > >

> > > What " allowed " the " HUGE experience " to occur in the first place was

> > > that

> > > there was no effort (intentional or otherwise) to seek or pursue

> > > anything

> > > at

> > > all. In other words, simply non-strategically being present in the

> > > present

> > > as presence. In short, there was merely, just, and only unobstructed

> > > openness (aware-space) as no-seeking and no-dilemma. Consequently, there

> > > was

> > > " room " for something " other " (than seeking) to present itself as being

> > > tacitly obvious.

> > >

> > > However, once the " memory " of that " HUGE " experience is pursued, the

> > > psychophysical apparatus (body-mind) tenses up (constricts) and this

> > > clenching/grasping so captivates and kidnaps attention that the view of

> > > (as)

> > > aware-spaciousness (that which is being sought yet is ever present as

> > > no-thing) to which, within which, and as an expression of which the

> > > seekingness occurs is effectively overlooked.

> > >

> > > Michael A.

> > >

> > > geo> What you say is a fact. That happens indeed. The problem is that

> > > there

> > > are very subtle ways the mind finds to try to objectify the subjct. Even

> > > to

> > > call it a subject is objectification. Even when the mind sees that it

> > > can

> > > not be named, pointed, referred, thought, imagined... still the hidden

> > > process goes on. For instance..there seems to be a certain period in

> > > peoples

> > > " path " where this " it " is imagined as some dark sorrounding space. Now i

> > > just remembered that Nis. even sujests that this is a valid idea for

> > > some....at some stage....never mind that. Or some hidden matter that the

> > > senses can not capture - as in a chapter of the tao te king. (that which

> > > can

> > > not be seen, touched, tasted etc...makes one...etc..). Or the mind can

> > > go

> > > as

> > > far as imagining that there is only one homogeneous mixture where the

> > > ground

> > > is one part....ha...the game goes on endlessly. The fac is: it can only

> > > be

> > > as this - only then, when this is realized insight shows my real nature.

> >

> > The idea of a realized insight is just another one of those mind games

> > you're talking about. People having paths is another one.

> >

> > It already always is so.

> >

> > There is literally nothing you can do that would add anything at all to

> > what

> > is so.

> >

> > Nor do you have the power to take anything away from it.

> >

> > It's too huge and too small to ever be an experience you will have, in any

> > way whatsoever.

> >

> > -- D --

> >

> > We desagree in some aspects. When I talk of insights I am not at all

> > trying

> > to bring back some kind of an experience. Not trying to remember something

> > at all neither. But the fact of the insight is. It is a flash of

> > perception

> > of impersonal non-duality. The impersonal being of what is as this. I dont

> > know what ongoing non-duality is. I dont want to kind of " force things in

> > a

> > way that might seem as if I did grasp what it might be " . Sometimes I feel

> > I

> > am about to see something new, specialy regarding the relativity of time

> > and

> > timelessness or their co-existence. Something like time and timelessness

> > are

> > not mutualy exclusive. It is all very interesting and I enjoy the whole

> > game - I love it.

> > -geo-

> >

>

> yes, you're having an " adventure. "

>

> good luck with it ...

>

> - d -

>

> OK...if insight is what I claim it to be, then to even consider it is

> another mind game.

> What do you want from me? To shut up..and not to even think again? Is that

> it?

> You suck..

> -geo-

 

no.

 

just to lay the assumptions bare.

 

inquiry.

 

exposing the assumptions that provide the " mind-trick. "

 

if inquiry is happening, you can't avoid it.

 

your head is in the tiger's mouth.

 

you can't move ahead, back, or stay where you are.

 

if it's not happening, it can't be forced.

 

indeed, trying to force it is not a great idea.

 

forcing it can lead to agita, depressed mood, even panic.

 

so, there are lots of " gurus " peddling their " bliss. "

 

a palatable alternative to laying bare one's assumptions.

 

which only leads to ...

 

nothing.

 

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > OK...if insight is what I claim it to be, then to even consider it is

> > another mind game.

> > What do you want from me? To shut up..and not to even think again?

> > Is that

> > it?

> > You suck..

> > -geo-

>

> Sheesh, ya didn't even give him a chance to answer before saying he sucks ;-).

 

 

It sucks for thought, he's right.

 

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > OK...if insight is what I claim it to be, then to even consider it is

> > > another mind game.

> > > What do you want from me? To shut up..and not to even think again?

> > > Is that

> > > it?

> > > You suck..

> > > -geo-

> >

> > Sheesh, ya didn't even give him a chance to answer before saying he sucks

;-).

>

>

> It sucks for thought, he's right.

>

> - D -

 

Ahh well... thought will have to take its licks, and its slurps, and toots and

pips and grunts and all that good stuff.

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > OK...if insight is what I claim it to be, then to even consider it is

> > > another mind game.

> > > What do you want from me? To shut up..and not to even think again?

> > > Is that

> > > it?

> > > You suck..

> > > -geo-

> >

> > Sheesh, ya didn't even give him a chance to answer before saying he sucks

;-).

>

>

> It sucks for thought, he's right.

>

> - D -

 

Ahh well... thought will have to take its licks, and its slurps, and toots and

pips and grunts and all that good stuff.

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

>

> -

> roberibus111

> Nisargadatta

> Friday, June 05, 2009 7:29 AM

> Re: me know nothing

>

>

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > -

> > roberibus111

> > Nisargadatta

> > Thursday, June 04, 2009 11:26 PM

> > Re: me know nothing

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > dan330033

> > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:04 PM

> > > > Re: me know nothing

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > Michael Adamson

> > > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > > Thursday, June 04, 2009 7:11 PM

> > > > > Re: me know nothing

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Something remembers that a something HUGE and imensily relevant is

> > > > > > having

> > > > > > its own existence. This something loves it...and wants it again

> > > > > > because

> > > > > > it

> > > > > > was wonderfull.

> > > > > > -geo-

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > In my view, a certain " thrill " left an " impact " followed by the

> > > > > desire

> > > > > to

> > > > > " want, have, or possess " that " HUGE experience " again via various

> > > > > strategies. These attemptings ARE psychophysical

> > > > > " contractionings/tensionings " which effectively prevent the

> > > > > recognition

> > > > > that

> > > > > what is being sought is that which is prior to (yet also

> > > > > ever-present

> > > > > at

> > > > > the

> > > > > same time as) the seeking (the attempt to get).

> > > > >

> > > > > What " allowed " the " HUGE experience " to occur in the first place was

> > > > > that

> > > > > there was no effort (intentional or otherwise) to seek or pursue

> > > > > anything

> > > > > at

> > > > > all. In other words, simply non-strategically being present in the

> > > > > present

> > > > > as presence. In short, there was merely, just, and only unobstructed

> > > > > openness (aware-space) as no-seeking and no-dilemma. Consequently,

> > > > > there

> > > > > was

> > > > > " room " for something " other " (than seeking) to present itself as

> > > > > being

> > > > > tacitly obvious.

> > > > >

> > > > > However, once the " memory " of that " HUGE " experience is pursued, the

> > > > > psychophysical apparatus (body-mind) tenses up (constricts) and this

> > > > > clenching/grasping so captivates and kidnaps attention that the view

> > > > > of

> > > > > (as)

> > > > > aware-spaciousness (that which is being sought yet is ever present

> > > > > as

> > > > > no-thing) to which, within which, and as an expression of which the

> > > > > seekingness occurs is effectively overlooked.

> > > > >

> > > > > Michael A.

> > > > >

> > > > > geo> What you say is a fact. That happens indeed. The problem is

> > > > > that

> > > > > there

> > > > > are very subtle ways the mind finds to try to objectify the subjct.

> > > > > Even

> > > > > to

> > > > > call it a subject is objectification. Even when the mind sees that

> > > > > it

> > > > > can

> > > > > not be named, pointed, referred, thought, imagined... still the

> > > > > hidden

> > > > > process goes on. For instance..there seems to be a certain period in

> > > > > peoples

> > > > > " path " where this " it " is imagined as some dark sorrounding space.

> > > > > Now

> > > > > i

> > > > > just remembered that Nis. even sujests that this is a valid idea for

> > > > > some....at some stage....never mind that. Or some hidden matter that

> > > > > the

> > > > > senses can not capture - as in a chapter of the tao te king. (that

> > > > > which

> > > > > can

> > > > > not be seen, touched, tasted etc...makes one...etc..). Or the mind

> > > > > can

> > > > > go

> > > > > as

> > > > > far as imagining that there is only one homogeneous mixture where

> > > > > the

> > > > > ground

> > > > > is one part....ha...the game goes on endlessly. The fac is: it can

> > > > > only be

> > > > > as this - only then, when this is realized insight shows my real

> > > > > nature.

> > > >

> > > > The idea of a realized insight is just another one of those mind games

> > > > you're talking about. People having paths is another one.

> > > >

> > > > It already always is so.

> > > >

> > > > There is literally nothing you can do that would add anything at all

> > > > to

> > > > what

> > > > is so.

> > > >

> > > > Nor do you have the power to take anything away from it.

> > > >

> > > > It's too huge and too small to ever be an experience you will have, in

> > > > any

> > > > way whatsoever.

> > > >

> > > > -- D --

> > > >

> > > > We desagree in some aspects. When I talk of insights I am not at all

> > > > trying

> > > > to bring back some kind of an experience. Not trying to remember

> > > > something

> > > > at all neither. But the fact of the insight is. It is a flash of

> > > > perception

> > > > of impersonal non-duality. The impersonal being of what is as this. I

> > > > dont

> > > > know what ongoing non-duality is. I dont want to kind of " force things

> > > > in a

> > > > way that might seem as if I did grasp what it might be " . Sometimes I

> > > > feel I

> > > > am about to see something new, specialy regarding the relativity of

> > > > time

> > > > and

> > > > timelessness or their co-existence. Something like time and

> > > > timelessness

> > > > are

> > > > not mutualy exclusive. It is all very interesting and I enjoy the

> > > > whole

> > > > game - I love it.

> > > > -geo-

> > > >

> > >

> > > yes, you're having an " adventure. "

> > >

> > > good luck with it ...

> > >

> > > - d -

> >

> > remember Peter Pan's words to Tinkerbell..

> >

> > as they headed of to " certain death " ?

> >

> > " oh what an adventure this will be! "

> >

> > that's what those who never grow up believe.

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

> > Tsk...tsk....tsk....what a sad world.....

> > -geo-

>

> it's neither sad nor happy.

>

> it's just not.

>

> .b b.b.

>

> What counts is appearences. It looks like real...so that is what counts.

> Well...one could always count with the dis-appearences... but then I am not

> there....etc...etc...

> .....oooouuuuaaaaahhhhh..... need a coffee.

> -geo-

 

It neither has appeared, nor has it disappeared.

 

Everything we say, feel, perceive and think has to either be about an appearance

or disappearance.

 

Read it and weep.

 

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > > ah grasshopper..

> > >

> > > it is both and neither.

> > >

> > > David Carradine died today.

> > >

> > > no more Kung Fu for him.

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> >

> > It was not a dignified way to end the adventure.

>

> No, it wasn't... but is the end of " the John Doe project " ever dignified? ;-).

 

I'll go in my sleep, thanks. Erotic auto-asphyxiation at age 72? Nah.

 

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > We desagree in some aspects. When I talk of insights I am not at all

trying

> > > > > to bring back some kind of an experience. Not trying to remember

something

> > > > > at all neither. But the fact of the insight is. It is a flash of

perception

> > > > > of impersonal non-duality. The impersonal being of what is as this. I

dont

> > > > > know what ongoing non-duality is. I dont want to kind of " force

things in a

> > > > > way that might seem as if I did grasp what it might be " . Sometimes I

feel I

> > > > > am about to see something new, specialy regarding the relativity of

time and

> > > > > timelessness or their co-existence. Something like time and

timelessness are

> > > > > not mutualy exclusive. It is all very interesting and I enjoy the

whole

> > > > > game - I love it.

> > > > > -geo-

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > yes, you're having an " adventure. "

> > > >

> > > > good luck with it ...

> > > >

> > > > - d -

> > >

> > > Nobody's really " having " anything.

> > >

> > > The notion of that merely arises every once in awhile.

> > >

> > > But, not really ;-).

> >

> >

> > it's an attempted adventure.

> >

> > - d -

>

> Not really... nobody really wants this sort of 'adventure'. It just happens,

as life does, and ends, as life does.

 

The somebody wanting it, is the adventure.

 

Nothing just happens.

 

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > OK...if insight is what I claim it to be, then to even consider it is

> > > > another mind game.

> > > > What do you want from me? To shut up..and not to even think again?

> > > > Is that

> > > > it?

> > > > You suck..

> > > > -geo-

> > >

> > > Sheesh, ya didn't even give him a chance to answer before saying he sucks

;-).

> >

> >

> > It sucks for thought, he's right.

> >

> > - D -

>

> Ahh well... thought will have to take its licks, and its slurps, and toots and

pips and grunts and all that good stuff.

 

thought now dissolves gracefully.

 

ah ....

 

hmmm ...

 

the water's nice this time of year in the Carribean

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > We desagree in some aspects. When I talk of insights I am not at all

trying

> > > > > > to bring back some kind of an experience. Not trying to remember

something

> > > > > > at all neither. But the fact of the insight is. It is a flash of

perception

> > > > > > of impersonal non-duality. The impersonal being of what is as this.

I dont

> > > > > > know what ongoing non-duality is. I dont want to kind of " force

things in a

> > > > > > way that might seem as if I did grasp what it might be " . Sometimes I

feel I

> > > > > > am about to see something new, specialy regarding the relativity of

time and

> > > > > > timelessness or their co-existence. Something like time and

timelessness are

> > > > > > not mutualy exclusive. It is all very interesting and I enjoy the

whole

> > > > > > game - I love it.

> > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > yes, you're having an " adventure. "

> > > > >

> > > > > good luck with it ...

> > > > >

> > > > > - d -

> > > >

> > > > Nobody's really " having " anything.

> > > >

> > > > The notion of that merely arises every once in awhile.

> > > >

> > > > But, not really ;-).

> > >

> > >

> > > it's an attempted adventure.

> > >

> > > - d -

> >

> > Not really... nobody really wants this sort of 'adventure'. It just

happens, as life does, and ends, as life does.

>

> The somebody wanting it, is the adventure.

>

> Nothing just happens.

>

> - d -

 

Or ... Nothing " just " happens ...

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > ah grasshopper..

> > > >

> > > > it is both and neither.

> > > >

> > > > David Carradine died today.

> > > >

> > > > no more Kung Fu for him.

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > It was not a dignified way to end the adventure.

> >

> > No, it wasn't... but is the end of " the John Doe project " ever dignified?

;-).

>

> I'll go in my sleep, thanks. Erotic auto-asphyxiation at age 72? > Nah.

>

> - d -

 

Hell, I'll go sitting on the toilet. I'll never care ;-).

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> > Not really... nobody really wants this sort of 'adventure'. It just

happens, as life does, and ends, as life does.

>

> The somebody wanting it, is the adventure.

>

> Nothing just happens.

>

> - d -

 

OK, I chose to be born, I choose to be me, I choose when I die. Sounds good

;-).

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

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> > The somebody wanting it, is the adventure.

> >

> > Nothing just happens.

> >

> > - d -

>

> Or ... Nothing " just " happens ...

 

Sure... injustice is very common ;-).

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > We desagree in some aspects. When I talk of insights I am not at

all trying

> > > > > > > to bring back some kind of an experience. Not trying to remember

something

> > > > > > > at all neither. But the fact of the insight is. It is a flash of

perception

> > > > > > > of impersonal non-duality. The impersonal being of what is as

this. I dont

> > > > > > > know what ongoing non-duality is. I dont want to kind of " force

things in a

> > > > > > > way that might seem as if I did grasp what it might be " . Sometimes

I feel I

> > > > > > > am about to see something new, specialy regarding the relativity

of time and

> > > > > > > timelessness or their co-existence. Something like time and

timelessness are

> > > > > > > not mutualy exclusive. It is all very interesting and I enjoy the

whole

> > > > > > > game - I love it.

> > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > yes, you're having an " adventure. "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > good luck with it ...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > - d -

> > > > >

> > > > > Nobody's really " having " anything.

> > > > >

> > > > > The notion of that merely arises every once in awhile.

> > > > >

> > > > > But, not really ;-).

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > it's an attempted adventure.

> > > >

> > > > - d -

> > >

> > > Not really... nobody really wants this sort of 'adventure'. It just

happens, as life does, and ends, as life does.

> >

> > The somebody wanting it, is the adventure.

> >

> > Nothing just happens.

> >

> > - d -

>

> or, should I say, " 'Nothing' " just happens.

>

> -- d --

 

Should you?

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > > Not really... nobody really wants this sort of 'adventure'. It just

happens, as life does, and ends, as life does.

> >

> > The somebody wanting it, is the adventure.

> >

> > Nothing just happens.

> >

> > - d -

>

> OK, I chose to be born, I choose to be me, I choose when I die. Sounds good

;-).

 

You took the conventional meaning of the words.

 

What else were you supposed to do?

 

;-)

 

- d -

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > > The somebody wanting it, is the adventure.

> > >

> > > Nothing just happens.

> > >

> > > - d -

> >

> > Or ... Nothing " just " happens ...

>

> Sure... injustice is very common ;-).

 

Exactly.

 

Justice is provisional, injustice is actual.

 

It is unjust for a single thing to happen.

 

- d -

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Nisargadatta

Friday, June 05, 2009 4:13 PM

Re: me know nothing

 

 

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> > > wrote:

> > >

> > > > ah grasshopper..

> > > >

> > > > it is both and neither.

> > > >

> > > > David Carradine died today.

> > > >

> > > > no more Kung Fu for him.

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > It was not a dignified way to end the adventure.

> >

> > No, it wasn't... but is the end of " the John Doe project " ever

> > dignified? ;-).

>

> I'll go in my sleep, thanks. Erotic auto-asphyxiation at age 72? > Nah.

>

> - d -

 

Go in your sleep....what a joke. Nobady has done that. Do you think the

orgnaism goes on snoring as blood stops flowing..as lungs fail to get air?

-geo-

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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>

> -

> Tim G.

> Nisargadatta

> Friday, June 05, 2009 4:13 PM

> Re: me know nothing

>

>

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > ah grasshopper..

> > > > >

> > > > > it is both and neither.

> > > > >

> > > > > David Carradine died today.

> > > > >

> > > > > no more Kung Fu for him.

> > > > >

> > > > > .b b.b.

> > > >

> > > > It was not a dignified way to end the adventure.

> > >

> > > No, it wasn't... but is the end of " the John Doe project " ever

> > > dignified? ;-).

> >

> > I'll go in my sleep, thanks. Erotic auto-asphyxiation at age 72? > Nah.

> >

> > - d -

>

> Go in your sleep....what a joke. Nobady has done that. Do you think the

> orgnaism goes on snoring as blood stops flowing..as lungs fail to get air?

> -geo-

 

Not really.

 

It's not something I think much about.

 

- d -

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Friday, June 05, 2009 8:45 PM

Re: me know nothing

 

 

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

>

> -

> Tim G.

> Nisargadatta

> Friday, June 05, 2009 4:13 PM

> Re: me know nothing

>

>

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > ah grasshopper..

> > > > >

> > > > > it is both and neither.

> > > > >

> > > > > David Carradine died today.

> > > > >

> > > > > no more Kung Fu for him.

> > > > >

> > > > > .b b.b.

> > > >

> > > > It was not a dignified way to end the adventure.

> > >

> > > No, it wasn't... but is the end of " the John Doe project " ever

> > > dignified? ;-).

> >

> > I'll go in my sleep, thanks. Erotic auto-asphyxiation at age 72? > Nah.

> >

> > - d -

>

> Go in your sleep....what a joke. Nobady has done that. Do you think the

> orgnaism goes on snoring as blood stops flowing..as lungs fail to get air?

> -geo-

 

Not really.

 

It's not something I think much about.

 

- d -

 

Doesnt make sense to do so.

-geo-

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > The somebody wanting it, is the adventure.

> > > >

> > > > Nothing just happens.

> > > >

> > > > - d -

> > >

> > > Or ... Nothing " just " happens ...

> >

> > Sure... injustice is very common ;-).

>

> Exactly.

>

> Justice is provisional, injustice is actual.

>

> It is unjust for a single thing to happen.

>

> - d -

 

Wait... if injustice is actual, and it's unjust for anything to happen...

 

Oh, never mind :-p. Ever.

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

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> Which word would you prefer to follow upon your question.

>

> Yes?

>

> No?

 

Maybe...

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> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > The somebody wanting it, is the adventure.

> > > > >

> > > > > Nothing just happens.

> > > > >

> > > > > - d -

> > > >

> > > > Or ... Nothing " just " happens ...

> > >

> > > Sure... injustice is very common ;-).

> >

> > Exactly.

> >

> > Justice is provisional, injustice is actual.

> >

> > It is unjust for a single thing to happen.

> >

> > - d -

>

> Wait... if injustice is actual, and it's unjust for anything to happen...

>

> Oh, never mind :-p. Ever.

 

exactly.

 

justice prevails without ever happening.

 

truth, justice, and the unimageable way.

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