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Hmmm... I'm not really all that big on arranged marriages, myself... I don't think Radharani is either: "I throw ashes at all laws, made by man or god. I am born alone, with no companion. What is the worth of your vile laws that failed me in love and left me with a dumbskull? My wretched fate is so designed that He is absent for whom I long. I shall set fire to this house and go away." --Radharani in ShreeKrishna Kirtan

I notice you completely ignored the whole Kumari-thing. Whatever... I don't know if the spirit itself is regarded as having a gender, but they say that Avalokita only incarnates in a male body. The bodhisattva Tara only incarnates in a female body. It's what they think. It's not just a 'male-only' thing. The Mahayana Buddhists believe in the Atman. Tibetan Buddhism is a sub-group of this school.

So, you're using a Middle-Eastern tribal book and the words of a man who never even knew Jesus, as well as a prayer to stop famine as a way to criticize Jesus? Here are the commandments Jesus said to follow to a man who questioned him: "You shall not kill; You shall not steal; You shall not commit adultery; You shall not bear false witness; Honor your father and mother; and, love your neighbor as yourself." So, I really don't see how the commandments he lists off are going against any principle of Gaudiya Vaishnavism. As to Paul, he never even knew Jesus. He never met him. The Acts of the Apostles says that he claimed to have seen a vision of Jesus many years after he died, but, since he would be the only witness to such a vision, we don't know if this is for certain. "Give us this day our daily bread..." I didn't realize that praying for God to save your people from famine was sinful. "...And forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who have trespassed against us..." I think it's a nice summary of Karma, myself: "I ask You to treat me as I have treated Your children." "...And lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil." (The Aramaic/Syriac reads, "And let us not enter into temptation..." but I digress.) I don't see how asking the Lord to keep you from bad situations is sinful, or how asking him to 'deliver you from evil' (whether that be negative influences in your life, the evil thoughts within you, etc...).

If you want a baby so badly, and can't have one, then why not adopt? There are plenty of children that could really use a loving home.

Because His Mommy is black (or dark... bluish... whatever). "Krsna's mother... is dark and her garments are like a rainbow." ((Sure... it's the description of His foster-mother, but maybe He chose to be that color so She wouldn't be suspicious as to why Her son was a different color than She was!))

Thank you so much Mataji! Jhulan Lila is one of my favorite pastimes. Could you tell me where to find other poems by Govinda Dasa?

Any scriptural references for Jhulan Lila (Pastime of Radha and Krishna on a swing)? I would much appreciate it!

Why Phil Collins (if you don't mind my asking)?

Indulekha Ji, I can't reply to any of your PMs b/c your inbox is full Would you erase some of your messages so that we can have sangha together again? Thanks so much

The language of the heart is love, which can be expressed in any language, by anyone, at anytime.

I really like this little quiz. It brings to the fore a lot of sectarian issues we've been having here at Audarya. Jai Radhey-Krishna ki Jai! Jai Nitai Gauranga! Jaya Jai Shiv-Parivar! Jaya Jai Mariam-Yeshu! Jaya Jai Buddha! And Victory to all the true teachers of our world!

I, personally, chant MahaMantra and 'Radhey Radhey' on a Rudraksha mala. I don't see anything wrong with it. Shiva and Parvati are Radha-Krishna's greatest devotees. So, I can't see a reason why Radha-Krishna would mind if we pray to them on the 'tears of Rudra', their greatest bhakta.

I wonder what Beggar's going to say to this? He's probably going to concoct some elaborate scheme, like that Indulekha Dasi kidnapped someone from Audarya and made them write this at gun-point

So, because she's wise, she has to be older? And, she has to be a man?! What?! Your statements are blatantly sexist. The only reason you haven't 'met many women' who are advanced in Krishna Consciousness is because you're blind to their wisdom based on your overtly sexist thoughts. I really hope you don't have a daughter... she'll think she's worthless! Look at the Gopikas, they were all young women, and none of us have seen such wisdom and devotion as compared to Them. Indulekha Dasi is a very wise young women. Leave her alone! What would be her reason to say that she's a fourteen year old girl (if she wasn't) on a religious forum? If she were really a forty year old man pulling this kind of trick, I'm sure she wouldn't be looking for dates on a religious web site... she'd probably just be stalking MySpaces all day

I guess you don't know Krishna's Lila in the slightest. His Lila has almost nothing in common with Jesus'. I guess people are just reading the websites that get their information from "The World's Sixteen Crucified Saviors" for information on Lord Krishna. It's been shown that some Gnostic gospels came earlier than other ones. The Gospel of Thomas is one of the early ones. I was just showing that there are sources that talk about Jesus outside of the Canon. I agree that the OT is a bunch of BS. It makes God look like an angry tyrant (hence the reason I like the Gnostics... they rejected it). I agree that Vedic knowledge had reached Judea. I don't deny it. I don't see how that disproves Jesus, it just tells me that he listened to the teachers that spread the wisdom of the Vedas and Upanishads. I see that you completely avoid the statement of the seven elephants holding up a flat earth by talking about the Vedic statements on the sun (which is interesting). Could you please explain the Vedic statements of the seven elephants holding up a flat earth, which is covered by a firmament that holds back water from the earth (so it doesn't flood, of course!)?

I'm sorry. I didn't mean to say that you were bashing Jesus (I admit the comparison did make it seem that way, though). But, you said that he didn't exist (or was fictionalized/deified to the extreme), which is also what many people of Abrahamic religions do to try to get converts. I don't really understand how it's hard to see what Jesus was really about. I think his words (or the words attributed to him) show what he was about. A rather early gospel (earlier than the canonical gospels) called the Gospel of Thomas is a teaching gospel. It is many of the teachings of Jesus. No life story or anything like that in it. It's just Jesus' teachings. Most of the teachings are the exact same as the ones in the canonical gospels (there are some additional teachings, such as teaching that God is both father and mother). So, it's really not hard to see what he was all about. I do agree that most Christians do refuse to look at the contradictions in the Bible. Especially the Old Testament. And when you try to point out contradictions between the O.T. and the N.T. they act like you're a heretic who needs to be burned at the stake. I was raised in a similar background (Catholic, though). Once I left Catholicism, I was a much happier individual. I think it's all the dogma modern Christianity pushes on it's followers that makes so many people turn away.

I'm glad you were able to have such a wonderful pilgrimage! I hope you get to go back to Ekachakra soon! I'm sorry you feel so much seperation from the Lord But, remember that the easiest way to get close to the Lord is through seperation from him Jai Nitai!

"I like your Krishna. I do not like your Krishnans. Your Krishnans are so unlike your Krishna." ?

Stories about the gods contradict each other as well. For example, in the lila of Kanya-Kumari, she is supposed to be the one that killed Narakasura. But, in the story of Krishna, he kills Narakasura. So, I guess that now both stories are invalid, and, as such, Krishna should be completely ignored and his teachings in the Gita should be thrown out as well. You saying it's 'not an attack on Christians' is kinda like when people of Abrahamic faiths say that Hindu gods are demons and are only trying to help their Hindu 'friends' by bashing the gods.

Your site has some really valuable information on it about Lord Nitai! Thanks for sharing it with us

Lol... I totally know what you mean thehat. It's like they just want to be in the "hip" crowd and call themselves 'vegetarians', and then, when you see them eating a chicken sandwhich, they go, "Oh... but I'm a pesco-poyo vegetarian... so it's okay." And then I go off on a huge rant about how ridiculous the term is, and that they shouldn't call themselves 'vegetarians' b/c they obviously aren't! I've ruined more than a few relationships over that one.

I so appreciate your insight! The last paragraph was especially enlightening! Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this with all of us

I totally agree. Lord Nityananda cares more about our love for him... I'm sure that he could care less about the formalities when compared to the love you have for him! Especially since you have such a close relationship with him!

Well... I really don't think it's any of my business if someone doesn't feel like making a location change. I was just saying the reason why he, personally, eats meat during some seasons of the year. I know about Emperor Ashoka. But, in all due fairness, many Hindus discriminated against Buddhists, Jains, etc... for many years. Some do to this day. And, I'm sure that Emperor Ashoka's actions aren't accepted by the majority of Buddhists, and I'm sure that many of them would never do such a thing. There's no female Dalai Lama for a simple reason: he's considered the reincarnation of a male spirit (the Bodhisattva Avalokita). There is the Kumari, though. She's considered to be an incarnation of Goddess Durga (to the Hindus) and of Vajra-Yogini (to the Buddhists).

Oh... so sorry. I think I completely misunderstood what you were saying. I agree. Devotees of Kali and Shiva go to Kali and Shiva. Devotees of Radha and Krishna go to Radha and Krishna. I thought you were saying something along the lines of, 'devotees of Kali don't reach God-consciousness.' But, that wasn't what you were saying at all. All apologies!