Sathya

What some claim as truth can be made up. Koran declares Muhamed as messenger of god. You believe that? New Testament declares christ as god. You believe that? I like and enjoy researching the greatness of Sri Krsna. Just don't like researching nonsense claims. Lord Sri Krsna is ultimate truth.

Their mandirs.

No need to be jealous. He can declare whatever he wants. You are jealous.

Even when it is made up?......interesting logic

Still sounds like jealousy to me.

And not one that makes up it's own gods.

Sounds like sour grapes to me.

Yes like accpeting that Lord Krishna is the supreme. He is the source and avtaari.

Sounds like...... to me.

So let me get this right. Bhagwan Sri Krsna is the source of everything...yet it is Mayavadi to say that all that has come from Sri Krsna is part of Sri Krsna?

i still don't really understand this idea of Mayavadi. Please could someone explain in simple terms? Jai Sri Krsna.

I am not omnipotent or omnipresent. Krsna and Shiva are.

A good site for a summary of what Sanatan Dharma (Vaishnav, Shaiva and Shakta) scriptures are about. www.urday.com

Curses do exists and are part of our Karma. That is why we should always live our lives with respect for others. By following the simple rules of Ahimsa we can achieve this. Vaishnavs telling Shaivas that they are wrong, and Vica versa is not following ahimsa.

That is not true. My bhakti is strong. I read many scriptures and do not distinguish between Vaishnav or Shaiva or Shakta. To me everything is part of Sanatan Dharma and it should all be respected as such. I pray to many deities/Devs because I know that thay are all forms of Bhagwan. I have strong firm beliefs and my Bhakti is stronger now than it has ever been in my life. Also who sets all these rules? Why is ekagratha a badly required neccesity for bhakti? I am living proof that you can pray to many forms of god and still have great devotion for bhagwan. Jay Siya Ram, Jay Shree Krsna, On Namah Shivayam.

Isn't that how Muslims justify their religion?

How did this happen? What were the circumstance?

Why would you not? The Lord is everywhere around us so what is the harm of chanting Om Namah Shivai in front of Krsna? This is not meant to cause offence but it is very disapointing to read some people telling others that they are wrong for chating Lord Shivas holy name. This is not what Sanatan Dharma is about and we are forgetting the basic principles of our great way of life.

Radha Krsna.

I cannot read Hindi and so I really need English translations.

Jay Siya Ram, Jay Shree Krsna, Om Namah Shivayam. Any idea where I can get hold of complete English translations of these texts? Sanatan Dharma ke jay.

Thank god that there are some open inded people. I completely agree with you. People are forcing one group of believers to turn against another with ignorance and misreading the texts. Shiva, Krsna, Ramchandra, Mataji are all the same. They are all forms of parabhrama. It is sin to mock devotees of god and so these people should really look at themselves and ask are they really true bhakts of bhagwan.

Every swaminarayan person I have talked to always uses the 'proof' of the scripture I posted above so you have to say they have a point.

The following 'proof' was emailed to me. Can anyone actually say whether this is a true quote from the Vishvaksen Samhitah? In the Vishvaksen Samitah Lord Vishwaksen says: II Bhumyam krutaavataroham sarvannataam jaganmaham Praapishyaami vaikuntham Sahajanand Namataha II This Verse states that : Among all parts of the universe I take birth on Earth, I shall adore Vaikunth adopting the name Sahajanand. Such scriptures prove Lord Sahajanand Swami (Swaminarayan) as the vedic acceptance of incarnated Suprememe Reality. The full name Shajanand is given by Lord Vishvaksen. The Brahmapurana also states such: " Kalouswami Vrushatmaja". That in Kaliyug "i" as in Lord supreme will come as 'Swami' son of Dharm.

God does not punish us in that way. God is part of everything animate and inanimate and so why do people want to disassociate themselves from God. God does not punish. We live out the consequences of our actions but I believe that that is not the same as punishment.