AncientMariner

That is one of the articles on infowars. Not a very good article as pretty much all politicians use these kinds of techniques so to single out Obama on that front is stupid. I just post the ones that I view as intelligently written. My theory is that Obama is a puppet of the NWO and until proven otherwise I am not ashamed to say that at all. Obama was for the wall street bailout, if he was really this grass roots politician of the people and change I would think he would have voted against it. It makes the Obama personality cultists mad but I believe in free speech.

Obama: “Marxist” Front Man for the Banksters Kurt Nimmo Infowars October 26, 2008 Is Barack Obama a Marxist, will he redistribute the wealth to the middle class? This is the question a WFTV anchor posed to Joe Biden. <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=439 align=right border=0><TBODY><TR><TD height=16></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD width=16></TD><TD width=425><EMBED src="" width=425 height=344 type=application/x-shockwave-flash allowfullscreen="true" sQXcImQfubM&hl="en&fs=1&color1=0x2b405b&color2=0x6b8ab6" v www.youtube.com http:></EMBED></TD></TR><TR><TD height=8></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD width=16></TD><TD class=photo-caption vAlign=top align=left width=425>Barbara West of WFTV employs the false right-left paradigm against Joe Biden. In response, the Obama campaign killed all interviews with the Florida TV station, thus demonstrating Ms. West cut too close to the bone. </TD></TR><TR><TD height=8></TD><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> It was of course an absurd question, considering Obama is the bankster candidate of choice. Banksters do not “redistribute” the wealth downward, they direct it upward into their own coffers. In fact, the word is not even accurate. It is not “redistribution,” it is theft. The banksters are grand theft larcenists on a monumental scale. Karl Marx’s ideology was a historical ruse, a stratagem for the ruling elite. Marx was related to the Rothschild family. Nathan Mayer Rothschild married Hannah Barent-Cohen, daughter of Levi Barent-Cohen and wife Lydia Diamantschleifer and paternal granddaughter of Barent Cohen and wife, whose other son Salomon David Barent-Cohen married Sara Brandes, the great-grandparents of Karl Marx. “Nathan Rothschild had given Marx two checks for several thousand pounds to finance the cause of Socialism. The checks were put on display in the British Museum, after Lord Lionel Walter Rothschild, a trustee, had willed his museum and library to them,” argues David Rivera in Final Warning: A History of the New World Order. But even if Rothschild had nothing to do with his relative Karl Marx, the political philosophy of Marxism was custom-built for the banksters. As Antony C. Sutton notes in Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution, “both the extreme right and the extreme left of the conventional political spectrum are absolutely collectivist” and “both recommend totalitarian politico-economic systems based on naked, unfettered political power and individual coercion,” a system well-suited to the banksters, who are after all monopolists. “While monopoly control of industries was once the objective of J. P. Morgan and J. D. Rockefeller, by the late nineteenth century the inner sanctums of Wall Street understood that the most efficient way to gain an unchallenged monopoly was to ‘go political’ and make society go to work for the monopolists — under the name of the public good and the public interest.” It was, after all, John D. Rockefeller, Sr. who declared: “Competition is a sin.” As H.G. Wells wrote in his 1939 book, The New World Order, this bankster imposed “revolution” is nothing if not “outright world-socialism, scientifically planned and directed.” According to one of Wells’ contemporaries, Aldous Huxley, this contrived “utopia” will not come naturally or even without strife — a form of “supra-national totalitarianism” will be “called into existence by … social chaos,” a chaos that draws closer every day as the international bankers sabotage the global economy in an effort to impose a new serfdom on the world as a whole. As CFR historian Carroll Quigley explained in Tragedy and Hope, the banksters went political not only to make society at large work for them, but to destroy civilization as we know it and impose a feudalism on a global scale. “For the first time in its history, Western Civilization is in danger of being destroyed internally by a corrupt, criminal ruling cabal which is centered around the Rockefeller interests, which include elements from the Morgan, Brown, Rothschild, Du Pont, Harriman, Kuhn-Loeb, and other groupings as well. This junta took control of the political, financial, and cultural life of America in the first two decades of the twentieth century,” writes Quigley. It is a system “to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences,” Quigley explains. It is not merely a financial system, but a political and cultural one as well. It is a scientific dictatorship of the sort Quigley did not imagine when he wrote his book in 1975. Dennis L. Cuddy explains: Economically, there was no middle class in feudal times, and that’s exactly why there is an assault upon the middle class today. The tax burden today is largely borne by the middle class, which pays a higher percentage of its income in taxes than the serfs of feudal days paid from what they produced. Small businessmen (regulated by bureaucrats) today have become like feudal vassals on fiefs. You and I are like the peasants of feudal times. We’re called “human capital” or “human resources,” and are to be “managed” like feudal “human chattel.” In the video above, long time insider Joe Biden once again states that “we will be tested,” primarily because our “economy is in free fall right now,” a downfall engineered by the banksters that control minion Biden and Barack Obama, the “savior” without accomplishment or credentials. Biden is simply providing us, the commoners detested by the elite, with a glimpse of things to come after the agent of “change” is installed in the White House. Indeed, there will be change, but not the kind sold by snake oil salesmen of Biden’s ilk. No wealth will be spread to the beleaguered middle class, as advertised. No tax cuts will be forthcoming. After Obama is anointed, the engineered economic crisis will intensify and Obama the sock puppet for the banksters and Wall Street will demand wholesale sacrifice on the part of the plebs. His CFR connected wife said as much earlier in the year. Obama, the foundation financed wunderkind shepherded by the advocate of globalist primacy, Zbigniew Brzezinski, indeed has nothing but contempt for the American people and that is why he was groomed to lead, or rather take orders.

I like that advice a lot. The whole notion of having too chant for so much per day or you are gonna burn in karmic hell approach is uninspiring to me personally but whatever works I guess.

I hope you are right about Obama, who knows for sure. I get bad vibes from him and the personality cult that has grown up around him. Just get a really bad feeling that something is off about the whole thing even though Obama at times does seem to promise all the right stuff. I am not too familiar with the politics of the 60's as that was well before my time but the 60's do seem to be a pretty interesting time period based on what little knowledge I have on them. I have heard on Alex Jones that they are currently trying to integrate the military into local police because they know the shit is going to hit the fan bigtime eventually so anyone viewed as a protestor etc. will be labeled as a terrorist. That is what 9-11 and the legislation in the wake of 9-11 was all about. I have witnessed the army activity in my area where there are mock houses set up. I remember wondering what those fake houses are for then a buddy of mine told me he was driving by that area one day and there were military dressed in black pants running around in the houses and they were supported by tanks. I also live near a military firing range and the activity on the firing range has been off the charts lately. Alex Jones also says they already have fema camps and work camps set up for the American people and they will usher the people off to them making the people think they are doing this for their good and to protect them from terrorists etc. but really it is about turning them into slaves for the emerging global elite new world order. The fact that Obama was for the wall street bailout is evidence to me that he is just another lackey of the NWO like McCain, Bush, Clinton... the list goes on and on. It is up to Obama to change my mind and I haven't seen anything up to this point that makes me think otherwise. It would be cool if he really were a transcendental personality like Malcolm X, Bob Marley etc. but I just have not seen any evidence at all that suggests that and some of the personality cultists that have latched on to him show a lot of qualities and characteristics that are going to be needed by the NWO to pull off their plan in its entirety. Today an African American woman from the Nation of Islam called into the Alex Jones show and said how she and black people realize Obama is being used and controlled by the NWO and how that is an insult to black people. So apparently it is not just white people that are noticing these things.

Yes I would say there is truth to that and a lot of this is karma but also the people at the top involved in the phoney left/right paradigm and the NWO central bankers are systematically encouraging and creating the darkness and ignorance of the public so for any hope for real spirituality to emerge and have a sustainable and lasting impact on our civilization those at the top need to be exposed and held accountable for their crimes that stretch back for 100's of years. All this in my opinion.

I think they are imploding the world economy and it has been engineered as such in an effort to bring about a more and more centralized world government. Ultimately there will be no middle class and no individual property ownership only a ruling elite with all the wealth of the world that will dictate the lives of everyone on Earth. Through excessive taxation and a world police state etc. they will make it impossible for the plebians to rise out of the slave class. That is what they are shooting for but Russia doesn't want to play that game even though America is giving in and owned by these international bankers. The ultimate goal of the NWO corporate globalists is to cull the population of the Earth by 80% through eugenics, wars, etc. Their brave new world is too difficult to manage with the population levels on the Earth right now.

Biden’s Admonition: Plebs to Suffer if Obama is Elected Kurt Nimmo Infowars October 20, 2008 In a striking moment of candor, Joe Biden tells us would-be president Obama will face “an international crisis within his first six months in power and he will need supporters to stand by him as he makes tough, and possibly unpopular, decisions,” Matthew Jaffe reports on ABC News’ Political Radar blog. Speaking at a Seattle fundraiser, Biden said this “test” would likely unfold in the Middle East or Russia. It would likely be coupled with the economy. <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=416 align=left border=0><TBODY><TR><TD height=16></TD><TD width=16></TD></TR><TR><TD width=400></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD height=8></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=photo-caption vAlign=top align=left width=400>Obama, as the “perfect master” — never mind that he has yet to demonstrate any sort of ability beyond rhetoric and oratory — was chosen by our rulers primarily due to his race and the fact this will make it difficult to mount an effective opposition to his policies.</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD height=8></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>“Gird your loins,” Biden told the crowd. “We’re gonna win with your help, God willing, we’re gonna win, but this is not gonna be an easy ride. This president, the next president, is gonna be left with the most significant task. It’s like cleaning the Augean stables, man. This is more than just, this is more than – think about it, literally, think about it – this is more than just a capital crisis, this is more than just markets. This is a systemic problem we have with this economy.” It is interesting Biden would mention Greek mythology to make his point. Augeas, one of the Argonauts, is best known for his stables, which housed the single greatest number of cattle in the country and had never been cleaned until the great hero Heracles came along. Apparently Biden would have us believe Obama is Heracles, the son of Zeus, known for his extraordinary strength, courage, ingenuity, and sexual prowess with both males and females. Biden also put the senator from Illinois in the same league as John F. Kennedy. Biden said Obama, if elected, will do something extremely unpopular within the next year and will trend down in the polls. “I promise you, you all are gonna be sitting here a year from now going, ‘Oh my God, why are they there in the polls? Why is the polling so down? Why is this thing so tough?’ We’re gonna have to make some incredibly tough decisions in the first two years. So I’m asking you now, I’m asking you now, be prepared to stick with us. Remember the faith you had at this point because you’re going to have to reinforce us,” said Biden. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out what’s in store. As should now be obvious, the global elite are deliberately tanking the economy worldwide in an effort to consolidate their hold and wealth and this will result in unimaginable privation on a global scale. As Prison Planet and Infowars have consistently reported, they have launched a final effort to usher in a world currency and a world government. Recall Obama’s campaign promise to , shorthand for a global tax. In addition, they are not finished with their project in the Middle East — the effort to take down Iran is a major piece of unfinished business. Moreover, and most ominously, the global elite are anxious to confront Russia and this will figure prominently on Obama’s agenda, especially with the notorious russophobe Zbigniew Brzezinski in control of Obama’s foreign policy. All of this will require not only submission on the part of the American people, but enthusiastic support and possibly a willingness to send our children into the fiery maw of some as of yet uninitiated conflagration. Obama, as the “perfect master” — never mind that he has yet to demonstrate any sort of ability beyond rhetoric and oratory — was chosen by our rulers primarily due to his race and the fact this will make it difficult to mount an effective opposition to his policies. The corporate media and the Democrats will attempt to peg any criticism of Obama as racist. More then thirty years of political correctness has set the stage for a dictatorial regime. Finally, recall Michele Obama’s warning earlier this year — the American people are obliged to sacrifice. Now we have the corporate and globalist insider Joe Biden telling us there will be a situation that will make Obama unpopular, possibly more unpopular than George W. Bush. One only need look at the economy, masterfully sabotaged, and the ongoing corporatized wars and invasions that appear endless no matter what stripe of one party politico is in office to understand what is coming down the road.

Possibly but as of now Obama is still a puppet of the NWO. Perhaps he will have a change of heart, anything is possible but I do not view Obama as being a viable alternative to vote for same as John Kerry or Al Gore were not viable alternatives to the neoconservatives. I have a feeling the Obama people are going to be real puzzled, unless he truly does choose to operate outside of the parameters of his handlers, when he continues to carry out the agenda of the NWO and international bankers even though they think they are voting for change. Whatever floats your boat but I am sitting this election out. If I vote I will vote for Chuck Baldwin, would have prefered Ron Paul but that didn't work out.

That sums things up beautifully. You are a true patriot and not in the mere sentimental notion of patriotism or false nationalism but in protecting the freedom of all people to live and worship God without being slaves to the state etc. In this technological society the plans of these central bankers take on an even more insidious intent. With the control of the corporate media etc. they are engaging in military style psychological operations and false flag terror attacks etc. in an effort to shock the public to acquiesce to their authoritarian demands.

I heard from a friend that the Muslims descended from a concubine of Abraham. I also heard that the Koran was given to Muhammad in a cave from the angel Gabriel. I heard something interesting today that said all of these religions were created by ancient ruling elite to maintain control of the population through a priesthood etc. Is going to be interesting if I live long enough to see some of this stuff play out. Some of these Nostradamus type scholars make interesting observations about current events. Who know for sure what is really going on but it seems we are entering a period where there will be a lot of social change, technological future shock, Brave New World type of scenarios etc. so maybe I will get some real answers to these age old questions once and for all if I live long enough to see it unfold. <TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD><CENTER>MINE EYES HAVE SEEN THE GLORY </CENTER> </TD><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> <CENTER>(BATTLE HYMN OF THE REPUBLIC) </CENTER> <CENTER> Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord; He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored; He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword; His truth is marching on. Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! His truth is marching on. I have seen Him in the watch fires of a hundred circling camps They have builded Him an altar in the evening dews and damps; I can read His righteous sentence by the dim and flaring lamps; His day is marching on. Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! His day is marching on. I have read a fiery Gospel writ in burnished rows of steel; As ye deal with My condemners, so with you My grace shall deal; Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with His heel, Since God is marching on. Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Since God is marching on. He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat; He is sifting out the hearts of men before His judgment seat; Oh, be swift, my soul, to answer Him! be jubilant, my feet; Our God is marching on. Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Our God is marching on. In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea, With a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me: As He died to make men holy, let us live to make men free; While God is marching on. Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! While God is marching on. He is coming like the glory of the morning on the wave, He is wisdom to the mighty, He is honor to the brave; So the world shall be His footstool, and the soul of wrong His slave, Our God is marching on. Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Our God is marching on. </CENTER>

I have heard there are 56 to 62 trillion in derivatives and 200 trillion worldwide hanging over the economy like the sword of damocles. At this point everything they have done is just meant to buy them time while they suck the taxpayers dry and kill the dollar off completely.

Very well stated and I agree with pretty much everything you say in this excellent post. I first got interested in transcendentalism when I read Thoreau in high school and that ultimately leads one to Bhagavad Gita. The only place I differ with a lot of Hare Krishnas and Vaisnavas is that I view Jesus as being transcendental even though I have heard a lot of Hare Krishnas and Vaisnavas that make fun of Jesus and view all people of Abrahamic faiths to be idiots. They are entitled to their opinion and no problem but I find that vision to be very uninspiring to me personally. That being said I have talked to a lot of Hare Krishnas that have the highest respect for Jesus.

Yep, beautifully stated. If people followed Prabhupada's vision it would effectively end the matrix hold that the "New World Order" has over man and render the "NWO" useless and powerless. They will not give up their power without a fight and I have even heard Mahak say that CIA infiltrated Prabhupada's Movement to try and destroy it. Ultimately Krishna/God is going to win and the epic struggle will only highlight the greatness of Krishna/God.

Read this on another board and thought it made a lot of sense: "All economic systems end in slavery. The problem isn’t the system, the problem is man or most assuredly we would have worked it out already. Men at the top of any system corrupt and use new found security measures to tie up competition and to discourage any who would enter into their domain. Men at the bottom of any system revert to hedonism, alcoholism, and then apathy. The only “system” that has ever really worked has been eternal vigilance by the majority of the people knowing what the law is. But, that is outlawed today both psychologically (aka mind control) and by edict. Unfortunately, evil men rise to the top to once again gain control over the masses turning them into slaves. Eventually, the slaves rise up and kill their masters at great price and the cycle repeats. Hopefully, this will be the last such cycle. The only thing that men learn from history is that men don’t learn from history."

I think a lot of scientists are bought off by the NWO or at very least they are caught up in institutions that are essentially contolled by the NWO.

The scary thing is going to be when this new found power is consolidated and people are starving etc. lots of destitute people will join the World police force and try to perfom eugenics on the poor, the elderly etc. All this seems a possible outcome of this nightmarish unfolding scenario.

Will be interesting to see if Jesus and Christianity ends up playing any part in this because it is unfolding similar to some of the prognosticasions of some Christian scholars. For years I have heard from Vedic scholars that Jesus and Christianity play no part in any of this and that Jesus was basically just some sort of rebelious jew but I gotta admit things are unfolding eerily similar to some prognosticacions I have heard. Would love to see an overall level of friendliness develop between Vedic institutions and Christian institutions in order to combat the coming chaos but that is probably too much too ask for in Kali-yuga. It is also unfolding eerily similar to some of the prognosticacions of some scholars I have heard about the Mayan calendar saying that the world is going to undergo a massive change in consciousness as a result of the end of this 63,000 year period or whatever.

Thomas Jefferson Quotes "If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them, will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.""You are a den of vipers. I intend to rout you out and by the Eternal God I will rout you out. If the people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking system, there would be a revolution before morning." --Andrew Jackson, 1828 (to a group of investment bankers trying to persuade him to renew their central bank charter)

Was driving on the highway today and saw a military activity where there were fake houses and people dressed in black pants and there were tanks. I think they are training for civil unrest as a result of the crash in the economy.

It is the atheistic religion of the New World Order. They are not at all worried about global warming because their plan is to reduce the population of the Earth down to 550 million. They just use that platform to scare people into surrendering to more and more centralized government which will eventually create the programs that reduce the population of the Earth.

I believe in pretty much absolute aloofness and detachment from these sort of things in redards to other peoples sin unless you are especially empowered that you have ability to change such things.

Either way diet coke is an instrument of the NWO in order to diminish the health of the citizenry and control and enslave them.

I guess that would fit into the category of the term I have heard called scamkirtana. Prabhupada was a wonderful and godly, saintly person but I think he may have been a little naive at how degenerate Americans are and how basically spiritual institutions in America just do not work. They end up taking the same route as the governmental and corporate institutions. Full of greed and chaos.

I agree with this. I personally would love to have more options than I do as basically everything where I live is tied into the corporate military industrial complex method of food preparation and commerce.

Yep, that is problem with modern America. It is full of yuppies that have no historical context of reality. They got conditioned to believe life is always going to be about the internet and lattes. Now their own governmnet is orchestrating a military project to steal all their wealth and leave them as slaves or serfs to a ruling elite. Once that is done they will perform genetic experiments and all sorts of abominable things on the American public.