Bishadi

WOW..... what a set of contradictions within this thread funny stuff..... almost like Muslim and Jewish folk shooting daggers at each other As in some lines of thought the Buddha is of Godhead, an avatar (prophet) linked with Krsna and Siva in the path of times evolution but then the opinion he is mentioned like an anti-christ....... how about let's see what others say about knowledge and themselves Hmmm. seems that by leveling the playing field, the good of each contribution can be found. Perhaps it is 'we the people' that confuse the good? Perhaps it is why a sort of mediator will be the assistant to gather the truth into one

perhaps nothingness represents 'no self' in that nothing exists as a 'self' being isolated as all is interrelated and succumbs to change cycles the ideas of many faiths share to remove the self as priority could sunyata be of this meaning? that the experience of 'the perception' is the reality not the definitions made permanant i.e... to feel existence; "i think therefore i am" is the experience perhaps affixing that experience is untrue in time; change is 'ever present' just resonating the ideas

since both Krishna and Buddha have birth names as well lived in different time periods; then is it possible both contributed to the evolution of knowledge (veda) for the following generations; both within Bhakti (devotion)? or perhaps a parallel; Moses/Jesus As Christianity has the hold on Jesus "Christ" or Khristos meaning the anointed or messiah, hence why the Christians use the term Jesus Christ but the Moses following folk (Judaism) do not believe Jesus was the Christ so between Buddha and Krisna..... each have a religion founded in the methods of defining what knowledge is important and furthered yet.......... between all four key belief systems, the rules of compassion are why anyone even listens in the first place. and just to even seek; perhaps each are of Bhakti to understand and also in each sect of belief, there all have words mentioning the last chapter to combine all...... based on a devotional contribution, once again..... so existence is purposed in Bhakti; devotion to life

just out of curiosity after reading this long post on buddha as well reading this if i went back through the post on top and removed the word "Buddha" and placed the word "Krsna" what is the difference?

the beginning 'preachers' of these 2 sects lived almost 2000 years apart but both had much of the same line of sight. Siddharta Gautama is the name to Buddhism as Chaitanya Mahaprabhu is to the Krishna form of Hinduism. Both share responsibility to observing knowledge and what we experience as life. The idea of Dukkha, Samudaya, Nirodha and Magga as shared in the older works are to self reflect and then how to incorporate the mind to understand. or simplified in know sufferings, abandon origins, attain cessations and practice the path; Each of these are of the humble realization of unknowing; a kind of humility to the wait but to identify the devotion to the 'good' of doing. Whether of mind, thought and action; similar to the idea of Bhakti. to be devoted to the good in all action then see the idea that Jesus came to defeat Moses or that Christianity over takes Judaism is about as parallel to this form as can be found in comparing or identifying the 2 camps of their respective religions. but they still brothers of the lineage within the evolution of the knowledge so the education of either path has merit within each of compassion maybe differences of faith but little difference of the devotional intent perhaps the isolations can be ascertained to a schism of sorts perhaps of leadership but One within our history, as then One to which we can reason within the mind of Good in all paths, the key to understanding is with devotion to the total

even saw an idea or even appears in most every culture on this earth, they have each tried to define the combining parts to existence. Perhaps based in the same humble seeking to what makes us alive.

all material nature is comprised of the interrelation of 3 gunas. in each sect of beliefs there are the interpretations of these three and what they are and how they relate. What often confuses folk is how they are used to define selfishness or the isolation from existence. these ideas are from the purports (see below) IN one idea, often people associate the properties to food stuff while another suggests it is the basis to karma, and then another in the idea of how choices are made. this shares how it has been confused but there is another way to observe as well. the corporeal, the spiritual and the transcendent; the trinity to existence. i.e.... life exists within the three gunas of existence. in a scientific frame, then mass (corporeal), energy (spirit) and time (transcendent). In which now the three can be combined with physical existence of comprehension. here is another way of looking at it but then in another area see how the definition come together food for thought here is where i any one can find a little something to read on matters of such http://www.iskcon.org/books/bg/bg.php?ch=2 enjoy

"Buddhism Is An Education - Not A Religion" is a brilliant statement. like many branches grown of Vedic literature, this one finds the self realization quite important. Each must self examine what is true. nothingness allows one to realize how little they know, and in a sense, to sit and not impose an atrocity; karma is maintained at its simplest form. in the sect that has 'chosen' a llama, find the philosophy as; if mankind learns and records, then as each generation is born to observe that material and be aware of continually learning for the cause of the evolution to knowledge, then to find a pure mind to teach as much knowledge in each period, then the evolution continues until eventually the final or 'absolute truth' exists. The Dali is simply the 'chosen' life of that sect. But if you look into the literature with clear eyes, the one 'chosen' is not the last avatar but the one who 'chose to' is supposed to be that guy. (note the ideals of Godhead) but like each sect, there is ooosually an underlining good or purpose to the objective; it seems to pursue 'absolute truth' is not so bad..... "Buddhism Is An Education - Not A Religion" makes sense?

ie..... the gift of knowledge left by an old teacher in words meaning we can read of words from 2000 years ago and feel what they did. that is a tangible example of transcending time or like a prophecy/dejavu..... we experience the event and then it occurs. that is what consciousness does; we can experience an 'idea' and even run through the sequence of possibilities before we even act or cause the action to exist. IN a physics form this is almost as if the account is observed before the action of causality (cause and affect). Now in a physical or experimental construct; entanglement can be shared in this fashion; to take a wavelength of 1300nm light, and split it with a BBO crystal, we now have 2 portions of the ONE, at 650 nm. Put one side in your pocket and send the other to the other side of the universe. Take the one in your pocket and turn it 180 degrees, the other will do the same at the exact moment, no matter how far, or where it is. Another analogy could be twins. Often of the same egg, same rearing yet separate people with a high concentration of entangled energy; they can often experience what the other is, no matter where they are at OK then in prophecy; even as the occurrance is past, just by a story we can experience what they may have simply by words then in the future, if that experience is of high emotions, often then feelings can be captured by someone in this current period in all cases, these are physically real; not magic!

Wisdom from a Friend; Skippy "Each particle that awakens contributes in service to the whole." 2008 perhaps to be awakened in knowledge, each can be a part of the service to existence!

selfishness; a loss to the common Look at the statues of the western style buddha (last avatar); not skinny. if you were my Pop, i would have respect as he has more compassion and integrity towards the truth, than any religious acceptance sorry old timer; remember deciet and corruption will only cause you more of the same feelings to your experience you made to realize how little you know; selfish pride yet, you learning the truth from the babe and it seems to be breaking your heart not being able to comprehend what is true and when you taste the truth; realize the end of the faith. even if possible, not even the world leaders can stop what has been learned. the 'bad-boy' is not kind to decievers and has very little compassion for the corrupt for an idea, maybe look up Kalki .... note the scar above his lip battle proven! and that is what you are doing; stopping the children from developing by the 'sign' of complacent belief you stand in the way of 'good' by continuing to decieve such the same as most religious leaders/teachers continue their selfish perpetuation when a true supporter of 'good' is always up for the task of challenging ignorance, even if it costs him/her his own security (selfish acquisition, the idea of power) step aside old timer, there's a new sheriff in town! the star of old stands to return what is not owned; the truth! so cut this body to pieces and feed the vultures; life will continue by the gift of choice.

how about the current 'soul' can tap into existence of all time. memories of a person are not attached to the soul but upon mass. but a prophet can see things by becoming One with existence and children have few boundaries of "NO" upon their minds each of consciousness is capable of seeing fore and aft in time as time is one with all existence; a part to that cycle of change the technical term is entanglement. it is not magic, or the suppernatural, nor of reincarnation. the idea that our soul is born and reborn with memories and the 'mind' of a previous birth is one of the corrupt inclusions of the eastern sects of religions. ie... in the west..... Heaven is some other place, we get to hang out with our families and lost loved ones. So the religions each have these little hooks to give people hope but fail the truth by the deciet of the incorrect ideology (it is deceptive to teach 'transmigration of a soul') the truth is, each can see but have precursors of mind to isolate the actuality of the experience. i.e.... every soul on earth has experienced dejavu.......... but who has shared what the actuality of the experience is in which to comprehend this absolute truth? that is what true knowledge is for; comprehending how it works! that is what the last chapter is all about; Understanding! and the first is to comprehend or specifically to UNDERSTAND LIFE itself.

<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:" /><o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Is not the path to Absolute Truth.... meaning; all the other material you suggested above are not found in chanting and chapter 10 even as the intent is may appear good; the humility of 'not knowing' was lost in complacent acceptance to a religion now only a fib can continue the secular mind you have no authority except in your own mind with all the arrogance of the Pope himself when you can share how to live forever, then you can be a leader of men but to suggest chanting and chapter 10 are it, when the majority of the material you professed came from 'other' knowledge, then perhaps a retool of what is represented may need further responsibility i.e..... we can know 'truth' by being honest with every interaction and experience ...... not by following rituals to maintain complacency of a belief be faithful in knowledge; not following a believer of a faith you are being questioned for simply fibbing to the children of this earth!

read about this kid who could not find the answers; OK so let's help easy stuff take it from the lions mouth To continue. Meaning all life does have a purpose and the laws of physics cannot represent this because the sciences have the wrong math but with any common sense, we can all see; 'life is purposed to continue' that is why life, reproduces, why is moves in its environment (unlike a rock) to feed, as well life was born from nature (garden of eden). as in the garden man was still instinctive as with all of nature The instinct of life is natural but we as conscious, have choice. Which we can observe the natural and act according to either self, or of Good. ie...to do 'good' is to support life to continue and in contrast 'bad' is the choice of self, causing a 'loss to the common' good: supports life bad: loss to the common pure rules to all mankind death is when the mind has no choice. Meaning; when you sleep there is not much difference then death; as your mind is not making determinations to each experience. So to live in the minds of most is to have conscious cognition but that is not so, as when you sleep, your body is still moving forward in time, although you have no idea but simply confident you will awaken to have another day of choice Reality is, if in that daytime, you contributed your energy to plant a tree, likewise when you sleep, that tree (life) is still moving forward in time, based on 'your' contribution to support life-to continue. By choice you can plant that tree in good soil, set up a 'good' watering system and well feed it the nutrients to sustain life which will be 'your' creation as when you die, it will still be moving forward in time (alive) you live in what you did. to contribute a single cell to combine with another; you have your lineage and lterally a portion of your life and your whole family line combining to make a new shade (a child)... to teach a young child 'good' pure knowledge, then when that child thinks and observes life, they are doing so with the knowledge and contribution you gave them to plant that tree; then again when it is 100 feet tall, shading your children and becoming nests for the birds, that whole universe of life is because of your contribution and will out live the bodies we are born into. in each case, the energy contributed by you is the life that lives beyond the grave memories are not a part of a spirit. Meaning alzheimers shares that memories are affixed to the bodie we are born with, and not that a spirit is upon our bodies with memories of things or try another idea; since we know you and all of us are born from the single celled life of and egg/sperm combination (basically microscopic in the liquid).... but that life absorbs from the environment (within the womb) and the steps of evolution can be seen in the embryo development ie.... see a film on the embryo and find the baby develops a tail but when born, that tail is reabsorbed before the birth point being, not only is evolution true, but all them lives that contributed to the evolution of each of us, whether it be the fish or the monkey, all them contributions are recorded and alive within the genetic tree and dna of each person and never was there a break in that line, or you would not be here as well since all them contributions are within our very structure; then when you look into the mirror and see all them variations from you friend and the color of skin, the type of eyes, the hair and even smile remember, all that comes from our previous generations who had a 'purpose to continue' and reproduced for you to even be here which also reveals the comprehension of one of the most pure revelations in all of the world; such that if all them generations are in fact represented within you, alive and moving forward in time; then when you look in the mirror recognize all you fathers are in fact "alive and in the flesh" as you stand so then: knowledge is what 'raises the fathers to the flesh" so now go back and ask yourself........... is it real or is it not? that is how you will know the revelation

of all the posters on this thread skippy was the only one who shared the truth faith of compassion. self examination! everyone has an opinion and why your post is even represented. 'my idea of faith is what is right' .......... it's a common psychosis in any religious discussion so return to reality and remember Vishnu is all of it, or simply existence itself and waht we each can be responsible for is our choices, what we do with our actions when interacting with existence (anything) what is spiritual discussion for you; sending quotes from other guru's back and forth? maybe a big long post bragging about how many HK affirmations you made? perhaps, sharing how long you have gone without meat or even talk about what some other person or guru is doing? and if a man could raise someone from the dead, walk on water or even have the capacity to service 16,000 girls, in each case, the stories make more of the man, then of God. Because them ideas of perfection are embellished. Not a one was ever perfect; because no man of such could exist. Where's the balance? Each can be equally honest and that is rule A number 1, then choices are easy, and like an Upanishad suggests, if you know not what you do, be still and why to impose no bad by doing nothing is better than doing what is thought righteous but rude without understanding you bet this is the period we would like to be civilized in but that process of division is like sending the kids to school; they leave the nest and return with more to share, then yesterday so nourish them ideas and maintain priority A1; just be honest and remove the beliefs as the law (remember it is them very beliefs (predeterminations), that cause the self to stand up claiming to be an 'i' allow and nuture knowledge to evolve that is what this thread is capable of but in contrast to your opinion, that people are not religious here, in a sense maybe an incorrect assessment .......... as many are developing compassion by maintaining that choice of honesty belief in a faith over reality is the greatest of all sins can't you see what is happening to this world right now because of religious beliefs? no matter who has the perfect knowledge; what is occuring all over this earth must be of the cycle in which we may all experience very soon

and still i do a lesson learned is that to give and care, is often not what governs the outcome of change even as the cause is pure or may even be observed as good; who can determine without hindsight? perhaps we shall see in time, as knowing is experiencing with understanding maybe the truth finds its life alone

so if nature shares the motion of existence; do we change the course of life? such to breath is death to many a microbe. Is it of choice; to not continue the progression within what is actual? Or simply, the continuance within the progression to life is of this pursuit of life to continue in the production of flesh supporting the consciousness. To sustain life for the benefit of the total such to feed the body what is necessary over and above the choice of selfish glory suggesting submission to the guise of mans compassion is foolish. And to consciously remove the sustanance evolved within God over the term of existence is just that; consciousness condemning the body with pride of self, over the good of life. IN the flesh of life; that is what we are. Think of being just that with no clothing of pockets. Then life and death is of the same cycle as nature (God).... This morning the little parot was found dead. Apparently the mastiff had captured and crushed his frail body. i cried a life nutured and raised upon the corn and seed, with the song and colors of life, was not meant to be of the good production to continue but to share death and the percieved loss allow me to know the pain associated with the loss of such beautiful life

or the line item of words 'death is just the beginning' for the children can know the peace, promised of old seems you appreciate life

here where we reside, there is a family of wild parots that has taken up residence. The little green guys about 6-8 inches, with a red head and blue tail. For over 10 years, we have maintained feeders and have a a few generations of the critters who now seem to stay. Just an hour ago while filling the feeders, there is one youngster parot, that has no fear and was within 18''-24" from my hand while filling the feeders. Apparently he was sleeping inside the Apple shaped one and I awoke him but he did not fly away...... maybe soon he will be eating from my hands sorry about the tangent but i Love the critters more than reading some of the foolishness of the faithful this thread title is foolish

kindness, compassion and Love are often abused by deciet and complacency the universal language is math in which all four colors of mankind can understand; equally so now imagine if life is understood equally between the brothers ah............. the Peace can live; by the choice of Life

when they finally ID the right interpretations, then maybe progress can begin.... pretty universal all over the globe not being able to see what is right in front of them even the spiritually versed, dance all over the truth; for some reason the blinders are still up isn't life a blast?

as to know, we can even 'learn a lesson from the wind' just yesterday I was appreciating, that even as i have walked the halls of corruption, and denned with the wolfs; i said thank you for the experience

"it is time that we the followers of true vedic traditions raise to the occassion and show what true vedic compassion "

and i was a beach bum in huntington..... chasing what i used to say; my favorite food in fact in Laguna, i used to sit with the little bald guys with the little ching ching toys and listen to them but then again what do you think would be the best words to share to a young mind about the purpose of life. the idea, that so far, works the best is to suggest 'we like a wave on a pond .... the good interaction increase the size of our wave and we last longer'

always submit to 'good' when you come to the cross road; think of choosing based on whether the action 'supports life', or is your personal preference then soon, your destiny will unfold itself