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algore is so full of ... well I will spare the bad words. His vision of change is simply the fat cats consuming and the little guy having even less than now. Daily more and more researchers are coming out with evidence that global warming is nothing more than a natural orbital cycle. Thats not to say there is not a problem with sickness being caused by pollution, however the vision algore preaches to sell his companies carbon offsets is false. Hate to break it to ya but algore has no interest in real solutions just in making cash. I will give you 2 easy to figure out examples. 1. It is an accepted FACT that factory farming is doing real damage to the enviroment. Most experts agree that going Vegan will have a near immediate effect on the enviroment and as a side bonus it would also allow more crops to be grown and more hungry people to be fed. algore won`t give up his meat and ignores all evidence that this simple lifestyle change will have 100 times the impact all his " visions " will. 2. LOOK OVER THE DESCRIPTIONS OF THE FOLLOWING TWO HOUSES AND SEE IF YOU CAN TELL WHICH BELONGS TO AN ENVIRONMENTALIST. HOUSE # 1: A 20-room mansion (not including 8 bathrooms) heated by natural gas. Add on a pool (and a pool house) and a separate guest house all heated by gas. In ONE MONTH ALONE this mansion consumes more energy than the average American household in an ENTIRE YEAR. The average bill for electricity and natural gas runs over $2,400.00 per month. In natural gas alone (which last time we checked was a fossil fuel), this property consumes more than 20 times the national average for an American home. This house is not in a northern or Midwestern "snow belt," either. It's in the South. HOUSE # 2: Designed by an architecture professor at a leading national university, this house incorporates every "green" feature current home construction can provide. The house contains only 4,000 square feet (4 bedrooms) and is nestled on arid high prairie in the American southwest. A central closet in the house holds geothermal heat pumps drawing ground water through pipes sunk 300 feet into the ground. The water (usually 67 degrees F.) heats the house in winter and cools it in summer. The system uses no fossil fuels such as oil or natural gas, and it consumes 25% of the electricity required for a conventional heating/cooling system. Rainwater from the roof is collected and funneled into a 25,000 gallon underground cistern. Wastewater from showers, sinks and toilets goes into underground purifying tanks and then into the cistern. The collected water then irrigates the land surrounding the house. Flowers and shrubs native to the are! a blend the property into the surrounding rural landscape. Here is a hint one is a true conservationist the other just sees dollar signs.

I love how he is being treated with Kid gloves. I didn`t see any " outrage " when this was printed in Rolling Stone. Lets see making fun of torture... Check Making fun of POWs.... Check Racist depiction of Asians... Check

You asked about my education so I will ask about yours. Preference is an indication of choice thus not fitting in your argument. Also it is clearly proven it is a defect as the main reason for coupling is reproduction. Sure, I mean Pagans believe you can spill seed and trees will grow I mean God bless them in their beliefs but most faiths preach sex for reproduction just alot of people choose to ignore that instruction.

Diagnosis is hardly required. To make it a little easier to understand male and female coupling results in the possibility of childbirth and thus the species continues to exist. Male and male coupling will never result in childbirth which leads to the end of species. So that presents 2 options a defect or a choice and if you look at any research what so ever attraction really has very little if anything to do with choice. Since I know your next replay I will point out that male and female couples do have sex for reasons other than childbirth which is wrong in the eyes of people of faith but hardly an unnatural attraction. Quit being obstinate.

A degree is hardly required to understand survival instinct and basic sexuality, we are talking about 8th grade science and a small dose of basic common sense.

Actually we are talking attraction as well, we are talking about being attracted to same gender vs opposite gender. Split hairs all you want but male attraction to females is a brain working in its most basic way and male attraction to another male in a sexual sense is the brain misfiring period.

There are several researchers that have shown some base brain differences Simon LeVay being one of the most often attacked. There is also the common sense factor in play man+woman=children man+man or woman+woman = end of species. Survival of species is one of the core,basic, primal functions of the brain and when this doesn`t exist one can pretty easily assume that the brain is not working properly.

Well since homosexuality is a defect in the brain the damage already exists.

Actually the way our reproductive organs are is all the proof that is needed. Sex is for reproduction, and yes I know it feels good and that is part of the design as well, if sex was painful like hitting your hand with a nailgun the species would cease to exist. It was far more natural for males to reproduce with younger girls who had hit puberty and could give birth when human lifespans were 30 or so years. there are still countries that have legal child brides. Now the moralist in me finds child brides to be disgusting but it is more in bounds with nature than gay lifestyles are. Gays have a defect in thier brain, now should that mean they can not marry ? In my opinion no it doesn`t I mean we allow people with retardation to marry so lets be fair.

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Since you made the statement I can add the question. What authority do you have to announce your idea of how things work is correct as opposed to any other poster here ? The only authority that is correct 100% of the time is god, because it is well known and well supported that humans are flawed or we wouldn`t be here in this hell. Anyway post away and if the field is one I am comfortable with I will gladly add my opinion to it.

A few names you might want to look up in regards to the conflict for some different views. Walid Shoebat is an ex-PLO fighter who now talks about the conflict. Another is Amin Al Husseini, especially look at conflicts and Arab/Jew relations pre-Husseini. As I stated I really belive your care and concern and trust me I had to read and reread to be sure that I didn`t even tread close to accusing you of being anti-semetic or racist as I have no doubt you are neither. Shivaduta you have quite a valid point. When we talk of human rights violations Saudi Arabia is among the worst in the region, but we rarely see that mentioned. Saudi money has lined the Governments pockets heavily, I mean look at all the " donations " to presidential librarys and the like. 15 of the 9/11hijackers were Saudi and when you speak of riches and power xexon, have you seen anyone with the wealth to match Saudi princes ? Anyway I just figured I would drop a few names by so you can give em a look.

Same as I have heard the " zionist " claims time and time again. Funny that you bring up the Mossad credo, the same tactics are described in the Koran for a world Islamic kingdom deception is encouraged by the Koran. As for your point of the US doing the dirty work with Saddam, maybe you are to young to remember ( if I am wrong in the age thing I apologise ) I served during the first gulf war, at the time even the other Arab nations were against Saddam. His whole purpose behind firing into Israel was to sway the Arabs to his side, Had Israel responded I promise you that war would have gone Nuclear because the Arab states would have switched to Saddams side to defend fellow Arabs. Believe me there was alot and I mean alot of pressure put on Israel not to respond. Now to your assumptions about the so called displacement of the " natives " in Israel. The Jews are the Natives there, there have been Jews in that area for at least 3200 years and their bloodlines can be traced there, while that of alot of the Palastinians bloodlins can be traced to Egypt and along the Arabian Peninsula. And sure Jews were encouraged to return , you seem honestly concerned with human rights so I present this question. What single group of people has experienced more violations worldwide ? So givin the chance to return to their ancestral homeland of course they went. Also if you read the newsreports from the time ( back then news was less opinion and more news ) the people seperated into two groups. The first were the Arabs that stayed and worked with the Jews and built the nation up and the others were the ones who hated Jews and refused to live side by side with them. A funny side note, alot of the Arabs that left tried to immigrate to Jordan, Egypt , and other Arab nations but were denied by those nations and were left to live in the undeveloped no mans land. Gaza is a ghetto due to the Arab nations much like the Warsaw ghetto was due to most surrounding nations not allowing Jews asylum. I wont touch the reservations in the US because for me I will agree 100% that there is nothing but shame in that. I would get into the Oil deal but that is an area that I could use more information on I am much more read on the conflicts surrounding Israel and the zionism phobias. I will close this addressing one quote of yours that is particularly false. You stated " Nothing gets people hotter under the collar than to insult "their" God or religion. People are always willing to die for what they believe in. This is being used by zionism to provide an unending state of war with the surrounding neighbors." Israel has never engaged in an offensive war, they act in self defense, further more Israel treats all its citizens with the same respect regardless of faith be they Hindu, Christian, Jew or Muslim. The Arabs are the ones who attack based on religion and use religion to fuel the fire. All Israel wants is peace everyone else wants the Jews wiped from existence. Also you say "Israel is a child of the US in a manner of speaking, so it has to "publically" preserve the rights that we observe here in the west. Israel can little afford to damage public relations with the US out of fear that support from American citizens might start to dry up." Have you ever walked the streets of Israel and seen the interaction between Arabs and Jews there ? Have you spent time in the shelters there with both Arab and Jew ? Have you ever once seen any credible source talk to the Arabs living in Israel ? Let me tell you I have experienced both 1 and 2 and I will leave it at that. I have done alot of research on the region and have been to most of the links on the page you linked. I could compile links for just as many counter arguments if you would like, but I would prefer to agree to disagree. Call me odd if you may but in your response I read an honest belief and concern that really is lacking in alot of the posts I have read from people who share your beliefs and I commend you for that. I tend to get over emotional in regards to Israel as I spend alot of time there and have lost friends there so I would prefer out of respect to you to not continue this , or at least I will cool off and post links as my temperment allows if that suits you. Also I wish to apologise for my " lefties like you " comment as you really do seem to be above that.

Funny that all the fanning of the fires comes from Arabs. The only acts taken by Israel have always been defensive. Israel is a legal state, like it or not, they have every right to act in their own defense. If Israel and its Zionist " masters " are so evil please take a few minutes to explain to me why Arabs living in Israel are givin all the rights due the citizens of Israel regardless of their faith. Why do Muslims in Israel enjoy more civic and personal rights in Israel than they do in most Arab nations ? It is so funny that when it comes to movements Zionists are always a punching bag for having the same self promoting agenda that every racial and spiritual group that has ever existed have. How do you feel about La Raza, MEChA, or any other " right to return " spiritual/nationalist group ? What about Hindu Nationalists like the Saffron tigres ? Or like most lefties do you just dislike Israel ?

OK so lets see, so you are saying one must be a Muslim to fully understand ? Yet you come here and pretend to have an understanding of our scriptures. Boy this routine is approaching the level of belly laughs that can be had watching Larry the Cable Guy. As far as becoming Muslim, lan astaslem !

1.To quote you directly So which statement is correct ? Your original one or the retreat you offered up ? 2. You are telling me to correct you ? Who are you to tell me to do anything. You are the one who is simply participating in the spamming of Hindu groups with the same uninformed propaganda.

1. I am not your sister so don't patronise me. 2. The wrong is in your intent, you did not happen upon these writings then seek out wisdom due to a yearning in your heart. You came here to do your part in the mass " lets spam the Hindus " campain that is flooding so many sites currently. You know nothing about our scriptures and have simply come to stir the pot. You have no decency and no authority to comment on scriptures of which you lack even the basic understanding. It would be much the same thing if I went to a Muslim site and declared the method of worship followed there to be false, but I am much to decent to do that. All you have done is take a few lines , without context of course, and announced yourself an expert. The true nectar of our scriptures would be wasted on you.

Well considering you can't even spell I doubt you even have a minimal grasp on the quotes you posted from a well known propaganda site. To start off it is You not U it is also your not ur. Now that we have some basic spelling out of the way lets correct your first and most pressing assumption, it is not anyones duty here to correct your "misconceptions" I mean propaganda. If your " concern " for our souls was genuine you would have at least used your own words, not the same hack job that is beng sent out to every high traffic Hindu discussion site and mailing list. You are here to convert and ( as your faith allows ) being decietful in your purpose. You slipped up, as often happens when people are being dishonest, and presented your true purpose with the text I quoted.

First off the articles posted are really quite short and full of information. Secondly to keep it as simple as posible, they aren't Idols

The youtube uploader should handle your movie with no problem, the limit on it is 1 gig, have you tried that yet ? As for converting old cassettes I can shoot out some emails to a few people I know that are tech-savvy and audiophiles for what is out there and not a rip off product wise. Are you wanting to turn them into CDs directly or run them to your computer to have the option of burning CDs and sending out MP3s ?

Well read theist, not really a suprise as you posts contain such a widespread base of wisdom. It is correct that the Doctrine and Covenants is the source of this I did a quick google ( embarassing as I was once baptised into the church due to my Uncles family being hardcore, His wife is a descendant of One of the original families and that whole side of the family is BYU grads.. ) The verse is discussed in this link http://www.askgramps.org/why-according-to-doctrine-and-covenants-section-89-are/ As far as your concern AncientMariner I would stick with the straight forward approach. Just be honest with them and thank them for providing you with their literature.

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This was sent to me by a close friend. If you need to please substitute a prayer more to your faith as this has nothing to do with a particular school it is just a cool thought. THE LORD'S PRAYER This is in two parts, the prayer (in blue type) and GOD (in red type) in response. ********** Our Father Who Art In Heaven. Yes? Don't interrupt me. I'm praying. But -- you called ME! Called you? No, I didn't call you. I'm praying. Our Father who art in Heaven. There -- you did it again! Did what? Called ME. You said, 'Our Father who art in Heaven' Well, here I am. What's on your mind? But I didn't mean anything by it. I was, you know, just saying my prayers for the day. I always say the Lord's Prayer. It makes me feel good, kind of like fulfilling a duty. Well, all right. Go on. Okay, Hallowed be thy name . . Hold it right there. What do you mean by that? By what? By 'Hallowed be thy name'? It means, it means . . good grief, I don't know what it means. How in the world should I know? It's just a part of the prayer. By the way, what does it mean? It means honored, holy, wonderful. Hey, that makes sense. I never thought about what 'hallowed' meant before. Thanks. Thy Kingdom come, Thy will be done, on earth as it is in Heaven. Do you really mean that? Sure, why not? What are you doing about it? Doing? Why, nothing, I guess. I just think it would be kind of neat if you got control, of everything down here like you have up there. We're kinda in a mess down here you know. Yes, I know; but, have I got control of you? Well, I go to church. That isn't what I asked you. What about your bad temper? You've really got a problem there, you know. And then there's the way you spend your money -- all on yourself. And what about the kind of books you read? Now hold on just a minute! Stop picking on me! I'm just as good as some of the rest of those people at church! Excuse ME. I thought you were praying for my will to be done. If that is to happen, it will have to start with the ones who are praying for it. Like you -- for example. Oh, all right. I guess I do have some hang-ups. Now that you mention it, I could probably name some others. So could I. I haven't thought about it very much until now, but I really would like to cut out some of those things. I would like to, you know, be really free. Good. Now we're getting somewhere.We'll work together -- You and ME. I'm proud of You. Look, Lord, if you don't mind, I need to finish up here. This is taking a lot longer than it usually does. Give us this day, our daily bread. You need to cut out the bread. You're overweight as it is. Hey, wait a minute! What is this? Here I was doing my religious duty, and all of a sudden you break in and remind me of all my hang-ups. Praying is a dangerous thing. You just might get what you ask for. Remember, you called ME -- and here I am. It's too late to stop now. Keep praying. ( . . pause . ) Well, go on. I'm scared to. Scared? Of what? I know what you'll say. Try ME. Forgive us our sins, as we forgive those who sin against us. What about Ann? See? I knew it! I knew you would bring her up! Why, Lord, she's told lies about me, spread stories. She never paid back the money she owes me. I've sworn to get even with her! But -- your prayer -- What about your prayer? I didn't -- mean it. Well, at least you're honest. But, it's quite a load carrying around all that bitterness and resentment isn't it? Yes, but I'll feel better as soon as I get even with her. Boy, have I got some plans for her. She'll wish she had never been born. No, you won't feel any better. You'll feel worse. Revenge isn't sweet. You know how unhappy you are -- Well, I can change that. You can? How? Forgive Ann. Then, I'll forgive you; And the hate and the sin, will be Ann's problem -- not yours. You will have settled the problem as far as you are concerned. Oh, you know, you're right. You always are. And more than I want revenge, I want to be right with You . . (sigh). All right . all right . . I forgive her. There now! Wonderful! How do you feel? Hmmmm. Well, not bad. Not bad at all! In fact, I feel pretty great! You know, I don't think I'll go to bed uptight tonight. I haven't been getting much rest, you know. Yeah, I know. But, you're not through with your prayer are you? Go on. Oh, all right. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. Good! Good! I'll do that. Just don't put yourself in a place where you can be tempted. What do you mean by that? You know what I mean. Yeah. I know. Okay. Go ahead. Finish your prayer. For Thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory forever. Amen. Do you know what would bring me glory -- What would really make me happy? No, but I'd like to know. I want to please you now. I've really made a mess of things. I want to truly follow you. I can see now how great that would be. So, tell me . . . How do I make you happy? YOU just did.

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