Maitreya
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Originally posted by shvu:Maitreya,
What supreme scientist? The scientist goes by proof. Where is the proof that there is a creator, except in religious books? if there is proof discovered, the scientist will be the first one to acknowledge God.
I see proof of a supierior intelligence everywhere shvu.Some scientist do acknowledge God.So why do you take theside of the atheist scientist of the theist.It may be your own personal bias.I do acknowledge that I have only learned anything by hearing from a superior source.
With due respect, if it were not for the Bible or Iskcon, you would have no such notion. The scientist says evolution, the religious books say God. You choose to believe the latter. Devotees get into a quizzing mode when dealing with rational explanations, but yet are ready to believe in any sanskrit book without further thought, if it looks old enough.
I do choose to accept intelligent design,but not blindly.This computer did not just manifest, it was intelligently designed.Where is you microcosmic example showing that something just self generates?
Science is still in its infancy and has a long way to go. With time, more facts will be discovered and things will become more clear.
Post dated blank check.That shows you are the one operating under blind faith.
MC
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Originally posted by shvu:Maitreya,
What supreme scientist? The scientist goes by proof. Where is the proof that there is a creator, except in religious books? if there is proof discovered, the scientist will be the first one to acknowledge God.
I see proof of a supierior intelligence everywhere shvu.Some scientist do acknowledge God.So why do you take theside of the atheist scientist of the theist.It may be your own personal bias.I do acknowledge that I have only learned anything by hearing from a superior source.
With due respect, if it were not for the Bible or Iskcon, you would have no such notion. The scientist says evolution, the religious books say God. You choose to believe the latter. Devotees get into a quizzing mode when dealing with rational explanations, but yet are ready to believe in any sanskrit book without further thought, if it looks old enough.
I do choose to accept intelligent design,but not blindly.This computer did not just manifest, it was intelligently designed.Where is you microcosmic example showing that something just self generates?
Science is still in its infancy and has a long way to go. With time, more facts will be discovered and things will become more clear.
Post dated blank check.That shows you are the one operating under blind faith.
MC
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animesh,
It is true as you say that we are all caught in a situation where we must use our imperfect senses, even just to get through the day.
The scientific community however is misdirecting the course of society away from God realization by their conclusions of life based soley on conclusions drawn from imperfect sense perception.Thus they claim that the body is the self, there is no God etc.Therefore because they reject the idea of transcendence, they have positioned themselves as the enemy of mankind while cloaking themselves as the healers and saviors of mankind.All the while the hard earned taxes of the common man are wasted on their projects.
YS MC
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animesh,
It is true as you say that we are all caught in a situation where we must use our imperfect senses, even just to get through the day.
The scientific community however is misdirecting the course of society away from God realization by their conclusions of life based soley on conclusions drawn from imperfect sense perception.Thus they claim that the body is the self, there is no God etc.Therefore because they reject the idea of transcendence, they have positioned themselves as the enemy of mankind while cloaking themselves as the healers and saviors of mankind.All the while the hard earned taxes of the common man are wasted on their projects.
YS MC
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Has Darwin been reborn?I just imagine this would be a birth type suited for him.Comes back as a missing link and causes more trouble.Fits his profile, his modus operandi.
Just a thought.
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you go shvu!
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Originally posted by shvu:Not blind. Based on whatever discoveries have been made so far, I am making a projection. On the other hand believing a book because it is old qualifies as blind faith.
shvu, have you yourself done all the scientific research that has evolved through the ages?So you are bindly accepting the conclusions of the imperfect senses of all these other 'humanoid units'.Blind faith.
To believe that there is a permanent place called heaven/Goloka and we can go there if we follow some laid down rules, is blind faith.
Faith is there but it is not exactly blind.I sense an extraordinary Life in the words of our acaryas.It is being proven to me daily, but in a way that will never fit under the electron microscope.
The concept of a hidden God who will not show himself [one wonders why] is blind.
God is not hiding, He is manifest everywhere.To have faith in the physical eyes only, is causing blindness.
Again, this is just another way of looking at the same thing. Just like you choose to put your faith in the religious books, one can put his faith in science.
OK, take your pick and take your chances.But for sure I don't consider myself at war with science.Just some of their conclusions.
I marvel at the workings of biology, and that knowledge is coming from Supersoul to the scientist.As we surrender He awards accordingly.Krishna is the essence of inteligence.The more they learn, the stronger my faith in God becomes.
MC
[JNDAS: I fixed the bold settings. They were messed up.]
[This message has been edited by jndas (edited 05-20-2001).]
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Originally posted by shvu:Not blind. Based on whatever discoveries have been made so far, I am making a projection. On the other hand believing a book because it is old qualifies as blind faith.
shvu, have you yourself done all the scientific research that has evolved through the ages?So you are bindly accepting the conclusions of the imperfect senses of all these other 'humanoid units'.Blind faith.
To believe that there is a permanent place called heaven/Goloka and we can go there if we follow some laid down rules, is blind faith.
Faith is there but it is not exactly blind.I sense an extraordinary Life in the words of our acaryas.It is being proven to me daily, but in a way that will never fit under the electron microscope.
The concept of a hidden God who will not show himself [one wonders why] is blind.
God is not hiding, He is manifest everywhere.To have faith in the physical eyes only, is causing blindness.
Again, this is just another way of looking at the same thing. Just like you choose to put your faith in the religious books, one can put his faith in science.
OK, take your pick and take your chances.But for sure I don't consider myself at war with science.Just some of their conclusions.
I marvel at the workings of biology, and that knowledge is coming from Supersoul to the scientist.As we surrender He awards accordingly.Krishna is the essence of inteligence.The more they learn, the stronger my faith in God becomes.
MC
[JNDAS: I fixed the bold settings. They were messed up.]
[This message has been edited by jndas (edited 05-20-2001).]
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True.I even remember being tempted to do just that.
jndas is moderator par excellance.
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No devotee is afraid of science.But why are the so-called scientists afraid of recognizing the Supreme Scientist?
Creation without creator.Design without designer.Maintenance without maintainer.
Calling these proposals incomplete is being charitable.
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No devotee is afraid of science.But why are the so-called scientists afraid of recognizing the Supreme Scientist?
Creation without creator.Design without designer.Maintenance without maintainer.
Calling these proposals incomplete is being charitable.
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Originally posted by atma:
[Another thing that come to my mind is that now in Asia that is so common the killing of the female embryo, the ratio of men and women population is changing drastically. There are more men than women in Asia and that will create lots of problems. Maybe the women will have more that one husband in the future.
More than one husband?Never!Pandavas being the exception.
More likely there will be more wars to kill of the competitors.
MC
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Originally posted by atma:
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Think, guys, think!
Well how can we now atma? You have us under enormous preformance pressure.
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Yes it is hard to picture little maps encoded into DNA.Like for migratory birds for instance.DNA speaking,"Ok time to head south, turn left at Kansas, go for two hundred miles and then veer southeast at a 45 degree angle.You will recognize Florida by all the pink Flamingos in the yards.Stop there and relax for a couple of months, until I tell where to go next."
But yet some directives may be encoded.I think there may be a combination of Supersoul directing through DNA and through the heart.
The Supreme Lord is situated in everyone’s heart, O Arjuna, and is directing the wanderings of all living entities, who are seated as on a machine, made of the material energy. Bg 18.61
One thing for sure, its a wild and wonderous thing and Supersoul is in control.
Hare Krishna
MC
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Yes it is hard to picture little maps encoded into DNA.Like for migratory birds for instance.DNA speaking,"Ok time to head south, turn left at Kansas, go for two hundred miles and then veer southeast at a 45 degree angle.You will recognize Florida by all the pink Flamingos in the yards.Stop there and relax for a couple of months, until I tell where to go next."
But yet some directives may be encoded.I think there may be a combination of Supersoul directing through DNA and through the heart.
The Supreme Lord is situated in everyone’s heart, O Arjuna, and is directing the wanderings of all living entities, who are seated as on a machine, made of the material energy. Bg 18.61
One thing for sure, its a wild and wonderous thing and Supersoul is in control.
Hare Krishna
MC
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I experienced no offense, nun at all.But I forgot most of it by now.
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shvu,
Clothes are one thing, needless slaughter is another.Make the Reeboks and nike shoes from the hides of cows that died a natural death.
If carrots and cows lifes are the same then why not humans also?How far are you willing to carry your its all the same, no distinction policy?
Humans must dicriminate in their actions towards a more refined and harmless life to others, as much as possible.
Hare Krishna
McHimsa
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Those corp. entities that Dharma mentioned should be torched and driven from the borders of India.Western 'culture' in general is the real danger.Meat and porno video's will take it down, not the Catholics.
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Originally posted by Gauracandra:
If this man had not been married and simply had 5 girlfriends no one would have noticed.But that aside, I don't think that polygamy should be banned (especially considering all the other 'family' structures that have of late been seen as 'normal'). Just one man's opinion.
Gauracandra
One man's opinion shared by others.Now the Feds are going to go after the other polygamists in Utah as there is no clear state law agaist the practice.
In this US of A we have such a hypocritical stance on many things.As you said if he hadn't married them there would be no problem.Even if he was having sex with both men and women.No problem.Even some states are allowing sexual unions[marriages]with full legal protection for people of the same sex.Even some churchs are performing homosex marriages.All that and more and this man may go to prision for 25 yrs.
This is the problem we face when we have a make it up as you go along society.
Homosex can be taught in school as just another lifestyle, but don't mention God or you may lose your job.
Madness reigns.
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atma is out pointing us men.Who can meet this challenge?Where are our heros?
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randOM,
You are right.I have had some nice conversations with those folks.They go on campus sometimes as well with a book table.In the City also.They do have some programs in the City where they have Sunday feast and classes.Nice folks.I have many of his tapes and gain valuable insight from them.
Jagat, I know what you mean about VNN.It was like no one was home.Hopefully they will change that when they reorganize.
MC
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randOM,
Sounds like a trip for you may be in order.The locals may have something for you as well.
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Originally posted by ggohil:
I am not an expert on Christianity, my postings is based on what I have learned from talking to people of Christian faith.
?Taking up Christianity would mean adopting following ideas.
1. Fear of God and Satan.
2. Submit out of fear of Satan.
3. Animals have no souls.
4.Only Christians will be saved. This also could mean too bad for people who have no access to Christianity.
5. Offer no explanation why, as to some are born with silver spoon and some are born just to starve and die.
6. You only have this life time to learn to love Jesus so you could to be saved.
[This message has been edited by ggohil (edited 05-18-2001).]
ggohil, Yes that is their bacic tone and so-called philosophy.At least held by the mass.I avoid them on the street as it is very hard to talk to them.
Without understanding aham brahmasmi no philosohy can go very deep.
I think we should 'save'Lord Jesus from the so-called Christians who link his good name up with these non-sense beliefs.
MC
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Originally posted by jndas:
Are those little green guys doing "haribol"? Perhaps they are filled with krishna-prema and dancing in bliss?
If you look closley into their eyes, you will see they are demanding something.like "RASAGULA NOW, RIGHT NOW!!!!"
Me too!!
What is instinct?
in The Hinduism Forum
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shvu,
Yes they should accept God as the cause of life like everyone should.As far as dropping all research, is that possible?Everyone must follow their nature.I applaud that drive to know.But not to the point of torturing innocent animals like they do to satisfy their curiousity for instance.And the space program is a farce and a collosal waste of time and money etc.How to make their endeavors more benign?
At this point we can point to positive accomplishments from their community but we could point out some very dangerous things they have set in motion as well.Its my opinion that the bad outweighs the good.
They make statements like they will conquer death,end disease etc. that are so foolish.If they only would stop with the cheating.Just tone it down,humanity under their leadership and direction is moving fast towards some major destruction.
MC