gHari

Sorry, Tal. I've lived my whole life with them. The painting is painfully accurate. The one in the taxi will be the exception. I suggest you do not know many well. Gauracandra wanted to know the reason, so I told him. It doesn't mean it's right or that I feel that way.

Sorry, Tal. I've lived my whole life with them. The painting is painfully accurate. The one in the taxi will be the exception. I suggest you do not know many well. Gauracandra wanted to know the reason, so I told him. It doesn't mean it's right or that I feel that way.

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Of course the cows are mad. They're fed up with mleccha terrorism! As are we all.

Ratha Yatra - ki jai!

</td></table> Of horses and buggies; mayavadis and masters: I actually meant no disrespect. I really thought you were talking about the senses being beautiful not the picture of the painting of the horses being beautiful, alluding to the world's attraction, and our challenge to get beyond. That's what I was trying to talk about anyway, and your comment seemed to fit the mood. I hope this eases your stress. But that's what it was. I hope with a little empathy you will see that no malice was intended. ------------------ Gary Stevason Seeking the Kingdom of God

I don't get 'the debate' or any 'attitude', but I now agree with your premise: you "might as well be talking to yourself".

When others rebelled, Prabhupada did not say, "I will debate them and bring them back". Instead he sent a message to all leaders: "NITAI HAS BECOME A VENOMOUS SNAKE!" "Doubting the authorities leads to destruction". And this is what it looks like. The puffed-up minds can not even see that they are no longer worthy of Guru's mercy. They will actually prefer to juggle words. Nothing can be said. It is Krsna's decision.

They are the chosen people. The rest of us exist just for them to live off; part of the food chain; essentially non-entities. We rebel from our desperate lowly position, as eventually all second-class citizens do.

They are the chosen people. The rest of us exist just for them to live off; part of the food chain; essentially non-entities. We rebel from our desperate lowly position, as eventually all second-class citizens do.

I am not sure how many of those dates, if any, are actually held dear by Srila Bhaktivinoda. He seemed to be only going through an academic exercise to show that the modern ideas did not affect Vaishnava truth. His true feelings about dates seem to be alluded to in the introduction to Krsna-samhita found on the internet: Perhaps he is only referring to the use of B.C. and A.D., but quite possibly he means something different. ------------------ Gary Stevason Seeking the Kingdom of God

They puff-up and are kicked away when they become greater than Krsna. It was always mental. That's why he fell victim to Jijaji's Nitai poisun. From here on it is worse than a waste of time. Just too clever for their own good, but not quite clever enough. Now again, mouse.

Prabhupada relates in As It Is that the Upanishads show that the chariot is the body, which is drawn by the senses (horses): In the original edition there is also a painting of the five chariot horses reeling wildly, each with a different sense, like eyes, nose, ear afixed to their harnesses. The poor chariot driver is in total panic for the chariot is out of control. Hence, the question: Hey, who's driving that chariot, anyway? gHari [This message has been edited by gHari (edited 11-19-2001).]

All-merciful Allah has shown compassion for the hearts of the Afghans by herding the murderers into a small area. The rest of the country can observe Ramadan in peace. There will be no peace for Bingo or his supporters, either in this life or the next. Afghanistan has raised the kite of freedom and this may be the most thankful Ramadan in history. All of Islam will rejoice in her happiness. - Caitanya, ABCnews Forum

Capable of captivating for millions of lifetimes.

Yes. Of course I know the circle game of "Let's you and him fight. Here's a stick". I just wish we weren't all so messed up in our quest for more and control. Hitler, Reds, KKK, skinheads, yata-yata-yata, Sodamn Insane. At fifteen, I wrote grown-ups off when I found out that they created a bomb that could blow us all up. As I get older, I find nothing to suggest I have been wrong. They're all nuts. Except of course for you, Gauracandra Prabhu. And maybe me.

Quotes I have seen from the Koran, only talk about resisting the invasion of Islam. When Islam is invaded, the invaders would be vanquished. I even saw injunctions against general violence. When I read it, I saw a possible metaphor for Islam being like the garden of devotion, and any foreign spirit was to be defeated, but I did not read enough to validate such a theory. I do not believe that the religion is inherently violent. What kind of religion is that? Certainly we do not go out searching for people Krsna wants us to kill like Arjuna.

Fierce as these fellas are, I sill have some fear about these psychotics on camels. I had to seek refuge in my not being physically in the U.S. for a while. I was very angered when I read that America has actually financed the creation of a lot of the bunkers now occupied by Bingo's Boys now. Why can't we just be nice guys? Seems maybe we just reap what we sow. All rah-rah America's number one bull aside, can we expect not to be dealt the same cards we deal out? I'm sick about it all.

My Muslim friend at work used to lose about ten pounds during the month of Ramadan fasting until sundown every day. He also became holier. He even saw the Gaura-Nitai Deities from my website and was not offensive (first attracted then moved away when his mind took over) - we all know how anti-Hindu those poor souls have been conditioned to be. [This message has been edited by gHari (edited 11-15-2001).]

Tarun, my back is behind me. Well, maybe I had my eyes closed. I hadn't realized how miserable life has been there. After this quote from the Taliban official I no longer feel sorry that they were caught in the middle:

Click on the audio slideshow here for an eye-opener: http://abcnews.go.com/sections/primetime/DailyNews/junger_index_011025.html?partner=

Darwin wrote:

Now that IS evolution.

<table><td width="30%"> <font color=blue>HEY, WHO's DRIVING THAT CHARIOT, ANYWAY?</font> <center> <img src=http://www.iskcon.org.uk/ies/images/BK-07.jpg width=200 height=300></center> </td><td width="70%"> <UL><center>PLATFORM - WHENCE IT CAME </center> The mind spins around on its own, shuffling impressions. Or the mind accepts in a descending process starting from Krsna, through Paramatma, through the atma, and then through the intelligence. "To those who are constantly devoted and worship Me with love, I give the intelligence by which they can come to Me". - Krsna, on the Battlefield of Kuruksetra. It is the picture on the cover of the Gita. Who drives the chariot? That is the answer, and that is the question. Is the mind too proud to accept from the superior authority? When the desire is great enough and the honest mind finally realizes its inability to understand, then it is ready.

Mateo/Naradadeva/Marco/Melvin, Even if you knew that Krsna is the original existence, the Primal Person from and for whom all that exists comes into being, upon whom everything rests, in whom we all exist, would you do anything about it? Would you continue to behave like this in other forums and shame Krsna like you shame Christ here? Frankly, I would think that Krsna wants even less to do with you than we do. Ditto from Christ; he knows you not. gHari