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The great depression of 2008 – the mother of all depressions
Can 'Hare Krishna' chant cure depression?
Not sure if this can be called depression when money is stolen, this is rather called a theft - the great theft of 2008 would be a better description.
Ok they did a got job - all this money was siphoned off from US banks and offshored to anonymous banks somewhere else and nobody in US raising suspicion that there could be something terribly wrong. This is after all good convincing work. All people actually believe, yes, billions have vanished into thin air, ended in smoke, to go 'poof!'
Even writing articles, it is proven, The great depression of 2008 – the mother of all depressions and all people believe it, yes, it is fact. This is after all pretty good convincing work.
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Might be a bit harsh words Wolf in sheeps clothing, and as usual classified as bad mouthing. I would suggest to rather see this as kind of natural hang up since time immemorial, racism.
They see Prabhupada as Indian and this is what hurts them, why we should overestimate, overvaluate an Indian who basically did nothing but to pass vedic knowledge on?
So all this bookchanges is rather trimming and cutting Prabhupada's books down in this direction to remove Prabhupada's touch from the ancient vedic knowledge. Same natural racist tendency you also find in the change of the constitution concerning privatization.
Prabhupada registered ISKCON with the parameter that all acquired properties are to be seen as ISKCON property. Now we have that changed since years already, ISKCON properties became private properties.
In other words, the leaders went mad over this idea to manage temples which are not their private property.
At one point they thought there must be a way how to circumvent this, it is intolerable. Step by step they found out what to do to legally get this changed and they actually did it.
But did anybody filed a protest, when such and such leaves ISKCON he can claim to sell this temple? No, because it is a natural materialistic tendency to take ownership.
Sometimes we find new bhaktas discussing further profilerations of this materialization of consciousness within the leadership of the Vaishnava institutions, this natural unability of neophyte kanisthas to be detached from material possession.
But immediately you find some senior, experienced Vaishnava suggesting to "allow reason to prevail, to call for sanity and to bang heads together".
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- 1. Bhakta Flynn | October 6th, 2008 at 7:54 pm
The best situation seems to be one in which members of the temple who need money to maintain their families are allowed to work outside for some small amount of time during the week, maybe 20 hours/week or so. If people receive money from the temple just for doing their service and it goes towards maintaining family life, it can lead to people thinking of their temple service as a "job" rather than as voluntary service for the pleasure of the lord, devotees, etc.
- The situation is obviously different for brahmacaris who need no money other than maybe some travel money for visiting holy places every once in awhile. These brahmacaris can be maintained with temple funds if need be since ideally they're not supposed to be attached to this sense enjoyment associated with family life anyway.
- I myself personally haven't felt inclined to live in the temples mainly because of the strange rules regarding grhasthas working outside to maintain their families. Some kind of balance must be met.
- 2. Bhakta Micheal | October 7th, 2008 at 9:14 am
Wages are for sudras. Srila Prabhupad clearly stated that austerity and maintenance only was the standard. If so-called devotees are taking thousands of pounds salaries they are not sages but disobedient thieves. Get rid of them and find real devotees that will serve out of love not salary.
- 3. Braja Sevaki | October 7th, 2008 at 11:31 am
Bhakta Michael, I don't think we need to "get rid of" anyone." Wages might be for sudras, but since everyone is born a sudra in Kaliyuga it perhaps requires a little more definition than that. And unfortunately the way the world is at the moment, wages are for anyone who wants to live. ISKCON management has contributed to the problem by allowing the creation of a system whereby people are paid for service, rather than establishing a system where service and earning for maintenance needs can co-exist, and the basic needs of everyone are provided by the cultivation of land and the results of cow protection. In the absence of such a system, even if one doesn't work in the city and earn a wage, still money is required to live. I live in Mayapur and we grow most of our own food in certain seasons, but not grains. Nor do we have power of our own. Nor is Mayapur anywhere near self sufficient. So until it is, or until I and others around here are, then we need money. That means earning. Do we take a stipend (as opposed to a wage: a stipend means it covers only the basics, and we're speaking in rupees, not pounds) for some (not all) of the service we do, or should we be "gotten rid of," kicked out to the city to "get a job"? I would love dearly not to need money, but at this stage of our evolution in ISKCON, it's a little utopian to think we can do without it. I believe that's only possible in an agrarian society that revolves around cow protection and self sufficiency–is that ISKCON?
- 1. Bhakta Flynn | October 6th, 2008 at 7:54 pm
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Is there a practice to fix / purify past karmic passage into this current life?This is hardly achieved when acting on one's own - the dynamic of material attachment is of this kind to always pull as back into sinning.
Therefore the yuga avatar says, Sankirtan, we have to live in a society of those who are without sin to invoke the rays of the benediction moon.
Benediction moon being used to illustrate that things happen not merely by our deeds but due to the mercy of Lord Caitanya.
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Seems making decisions on such a subject is tough for many.Even dejavu, when some do not find the answers they seek.....
for example:
asking a question of such magnitude and the answer shared is
"i don't have the answer"
is because that ability to judge within the capacity of truth, pure compassion or honesty is not there.
'balance' shares that if you want the roller coaster ride, you have to climb to the top first but to ride down a hole don't expect someone to carry you up.
So as mentioned; the pedophile and the perpetrators of inconsistant doctrine are one of the same; they rape the meak of what is true.
me personally; not very forgiving of the corrupt... such that if awareness exists and they still abuse....... ouch!
Karma is something each prepare for themselves. Each live in what they do!
Hate the sin and not the sinner - is rather meant for minor breach of regulations like forgetting to offer at Radhastami a preparation made with plums, since Srimati Radharani likes plums very much. Or having forgotten to put on tilak once in a while.
When however a charismatic personality takes a seat on the parampara's vyasasana, manages to initiate 3000 people by stating he's duly authorized by the council of elders and at one points outs himself as neophyte deviant, is this a peccadillo, harmless?
Of course you can explain almost anything by quoting from Bhagavad-gita, dualities like summer and winter have to be tolerated, if it's getting cold cover yourself with a woolen pullover.
If you suffer by having accepted the wrong person, someone who knew that he's not a master but a servant but pretended to be so, learn to live with this suffering like Srila Bhaktivinode Thakur when having taken initiation from Bipin Bihari Goswami but never even mentioned this mistake with even one word.
However, Srila Bhaktivinode Thakur wasn't joining an institution by becoming a disciple of Bipin Bihari Goswami and that institution also advertising people to get initiation from their authorized diksa-gurus.
At that time there weren't Vaishnava institutions and therefore no such thing as domino effect of many people being involved.
Since we live in the material world with lots of characters who are inclined to imitate and purposefully exploit loopholes the lawbook has that option to especially punish such things more strongly which might be repeated again and again to achieve a limitation of damage.
And not to support that more and more people are victimized.
For example what we have now and is rarely mentioned - at least three hundred self-proclaimed persons outside the institutions who present themselves as genuine parampara gurus due the Vaishnava institutions example.
Even non-Vaishnavas getting the idea to pose as God's representative and seeking for followers inspired by the Vaishnava institutions.
At least Sri Isopanisad doesnt support this idea that one should accept the sinner and only hate the sin in such case.
Isopanisad rather says, those who mislead by posing as teachers enter the darkest region of the universe.
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There are many references to Lord Vishnu in the Vedas, but for this age, the recommended Scriptures are Bhagavad-Gita and Srimad-Bhagavatam, both of which attest the superiority of Lord Krishna.dādhāra dakṣamuttamamaharvidaṃ vrajaṃ ca viṣṇuḥ sakhivānaporṇute
"Viṣṇu hath power supreme and might that finds the day" (Rig Veda 1:156:4)
oṃ tad viṣṇoḥ paramam padam sadā paśyanti sūrayaḥ
"All the suras (i.e., the devas) look always toward the feet of Lord Vishnu." (Rig Veda, 1:22:20)
agnirvai devanamavamo vishnuh paramah tadantara sarva devatah
"Agni is the lowest and Vishnu is the highest among devas. All other gods occupy positions that are in between." (Aitareya Brahmana 1.1.1)
"Then we shall expound the Mahopanishad. They say Narayana was alone. There were not Brahma, Shiva, Waters, Fire and Soma, Heaven and Earth, Stars, Sun and Moon. He could not be happy" (Maha Upanishad: I-1-4)
"Narayana desired to create people. Because of this thought, Soul (prana) rose from him. Mind and all body parts, sky, air, light, water and the earth which can carry all these created beings took their form. From Narayana, Brahma was born. From Narayana, Rudra (Shiva) was born. From Narayana, Indra was born .From Narayana those people who rule these human beings were born. From Narayana, the twelve suns, eleven Rudras, Eight Vasus and all those meters (for writing) were born. All these function because of Narayana. All these end in Narayana. Thus is read, the Upanishads of Rig Veda." (Narayana Upanishad)
tam isvaranam paramam mahesvaramtam daivatanam paramam ca daivatampatim patinam paramam parastadvidama devam bhuvanesam idyam
"You are the Lord of all other controllers such as Brahma and Siva. You are the Lord of all the devatas such as Indra. You are the Lord of all the prajapatis. You are superior to the supreme. We know you as the ultimate object of all prayers and eulogies; the Supreme Personality who is keen on performing wonderful pastimes" (Svetasvatara Upanisad 6.7)
We see from these references that Narayana is also a name for Lord Vishnu, and that He is the Supreme Being.
In the Brahma-Samhita, we read:
isvarah paramah krsnah sac-cid-ananda-vigrahah
anadir adir govindah sarva-karana-karanam
"Krishna who is known as Govinda is the Supreme Godhead. He has an eternal
blissful spiritual body. He is the origin of all. He has no other origin and He
is the prime cause of all causes." (Brahma-Samhita 5:1)
evam jyotir-mayo devah sad-anandah parat parah
atmaramasya tasyasti prakrtya na samagamah
"The Lord of Gokula [Krishna] is the transcendental Supreme Godhead, the own Self of eternal ecstasies. He is the superior of all superiors and is busily engaged in the enjoyments of the transcendental realm and has no association with His mundane potency." (Brahma-Samhita 5:6)
vamangad asrjad visnum daksinangat prajapatim
jyotir-linga-mayam sambhum kurca-desad avasrjat
"Maha-Visnu created Visnu from His left limb, Brahma, the first
progenitor of beings, from His right limb and, from the space between His two
eyebrows, Sambhu, the divine masculine manifested halo." (Brahma-Samhita 5:15)
Thanks MikeMalaysia, great post! When reading your post it came to mind that although the internet is fast, computers are fast, to write a post with so many quotes takes time.
And this might be the reason why more and more people avoid internet forums. They have been duped by the present Zeitgeist, everything goes so speedily that there's no more time to write a post.
Hopefully people will realize how this is a negative development and that so many readers take great profit when someone takes the time to write a post with all the important quotes like above, thanks MikeMalaysia!
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Each planet has an inherent prakrity as listed.Each rashi also, and each bhava - inherent.
The combination of the three - especially the planet and the rashi - produces unique effects - planets and rashis are are more or less "combatible" - if you were a little less beligerent you would see that i agree with you.
In fact I just made a post about why the moon is exalted in Taurus which is almost entirely talking about this.
I really don't like you. I won't check this thread anymore. If there is a way to block you I will. I've met a lot of beligerent people, but you take the cake. May you learn.
At the topic of "Compatibility And The Four Elements" at http://www.indiadivine.org/audarya/vedic astrology-jyotisha/449202-compatibility-four-elements.html you concluded:
"...so your theory seems out of line with more accepted methods."
In other words anybody who reads this will say, a vedic astrologer commented, compatibility of the elements is out of line.
When asking you to back up your claim, to give evidence, you say, I don't like you, you hate me, I really don't like you etc...
In sum I would say, Srila Prabhupada's statement, "If according to astrological calculations the boy and girl were compatible in every respect, the match was called yoṭaka and the marriage would be accepted, (SB 9.18.24) ", is fully 100% valid and everything else is a bogus idea and to be rejected.
Also I would like to mention my Astrology teacher's book which says the same,
Stephen Arroyo: Astrology, Psychology, and the Four Elements
http://www.amazon.com/Astrology-Psychology-Four-Elements-Counseling/dp/0916360016
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Dear all religious friends,I have a doubt if any one can answer me? Sorry. I am new to this Forum and I haven't read many discussions in past. May be my thread is a repetition of past ones. Still, I request answers.
Coming to my doubt, if Brahma , who is the creator of all living beings, was born from "Navel" of Vishnu ( who is Padma nabha ), then who did create Shiva ,Vishnu and their Wives?
"Anantha koti brahmanda nayaka Rajadhi Raja yogi Raja Para Brahma Sri Sachidananda Sadguru Sai nath Mahraj ki Jai."
The Vedas say, Visnu wasnt born, from Visnu, Brahma is born and in Maha Upanisad it is said that Lord Shiva was born from the forehead of the Supreme Lord. Thus the Vedas say that is the Supreme Lord, the Creator of Brahma and Shiva, who is to be worshiped.
Narayanah paro devas, Tasmaj jatas caturmukhah
Tasmad rudro ‘bhavad devah, Sa ca sarva-jnatam gath
“Narayan/Visnu is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and from him Brahma was born, from whom Shiva was born”
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"Om Namo Vasudevaya" is the Mantra told by Narada maharshi to Dhriva in Kruta yuga. But Vasudeva ( Krishna ) corresponds to Dwapari yuga which is later than Kruta Yuga. How can it be possible? Is it something like, Narada maharshi know before hand that Krishna will be born in Dwapari yuga?"O my Lord, Sri Krsṇa, son of Vasudeva, O all-pervading Personality of Godhead, I offer my respectful obeisances unto You", this is nitya-lila.
In other words, this lila of Krsna appearing as son of Vasudeva takes place constantly in one of millions and millions of universes.
Just like you say a certain time, e.g. 8 pm, somewhere on our planet it is right now 8 pm. As soon at this place 8 pm is over, there is at another place 8 pm.
This is endless, there's all the time somewhere 8 pm. In the same way, there's always somewhere, even just right now, in another universe, Lord Krsna appearing as son of Vasudeva. This is called nitya-lila, without beginning and without end.
Since Narada Muni is a nitya-siddha he can travel with his vina anywhere he likes and see how Krsna performs His neverending childhood pastimes in different universes.
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Dear Readers,I want to explain my attachment With Shirdi Sai baba. Since my school days,I am very much interested in Sai baba as my parents take me to near by Sai baba temple frequently. Since then, I used to prey Sai baba only. Which ever temple I go, I used to chant "Ome Sai ram". I see sai baba in every Murthy, be it Rama or Krishna etc. When ever I got relieved from my problems,I used to think it as because of Sai baba's grace on me. I used to see his idols often in my Dreams as I often read His "Parayana".
As a professional Software Engineer, I had to Go to Germany for one of the assignment. As part of the assignment, I was asked to find out a problem during the implementation. It is completely new to me and there was no time for me to study and start finding out the problem. The client gave me only one day for me to resolve that issue. There was only 1 hour to go for the client to approace me and ask if the problem is resolved. I was completely helpless though I tried a lot. With disdain, I had a look a Sai baba wall paper on my system for 10 mins and asked him ( within myself )to help me . Very surprisingly, I immediately got an idea which I can not believe that it came to my thought. With that Idea , I got clue to resolve the problem and the client was satisfied with my work.
I got many such instances which I think miracles for me ( sorry if i am exaggerating, though small, in my scope there are miracles only ) just because of my faith in Sai baba.
I really get tears in my eyes without my knowledge whenever I go to Sai baba temple. He is the real Sadguru. He is the incarnation of Vishnu, Shiva, brahma. He is the Rama. He is the Krishna.
Let us say. Ome Sri sai nathaya.
Anantha koti brahmanda nayaka rajadhi Raja Yogi Raja para brahma sri sachitananda sai naath maharaj ki Jai.
Thanks yagna_narayana for sharing this story how you got saved in a precarious situation of travelling all the way to Germany and in that situation having to solve an almost impossible task.
By telling such stories people surely develop gradually faith that there is a higher intelligence behind this material facade. A facade what makes many people bewildered if there can be anything more except materialism.
I read recently about another miracle - a miracle in plant life. Plants need nitrogen but cannot directly absorb it. About 80% of all land plants have a symbiotic relationship with fungi of the phylum Glomeromycota. The fungus penetrates cells in the plant's roots and provides the plant with phosphates and other nutrients from the soil. This kind of symbiosis is called an arbuscular mycorrhiza, and plants even developed an active agent so to speak to attract this fungus. Professor Martin Parniske and colleagues started their study by looking at genes known to be involved in arbuscular mycorrhiza, to see whether they could find evidence of any specific genetic differences in plants that form symbioses also with nitrogen-fixing bacteria.
"In this so-called root nodule symbiosis bacteria live in the root cells of the host plants, where they bind elementary nitrogen from the air in special organs, the nodules," says Parniske. In return, the microbes get high-energy carbohydrates produced by photosynthesis in the host plant.
It had already been speculated that genes involved in the arbuscular mycorrhiza symbiosis might have been recruited for nodulation, as these symbioses both involve intracellular relationships. One clue was that several genes, including the so-called "symbiosis-receptor-kinase-gene" (SYMRK), are involved in a genetic program that links arbuscular mycorrhiza and one form of bacterial nodule symbiosis. And the analysis of SYMRK in several species of plant provided the striking evidence that Parniske and his colleagues had been hoping for.
"Our results reveal that an expansion of the functions of SYMRK constituted an important step in the evolution of intracellular nodule symbiosis," reports Parniske. Most plants have a short version of SMYRK, which is required for AM symbiosis. A longer variant of SMYRK was found only in plants involved in the symbiotic relationships with nitrogen-fixing bacteria. Importantly, the longer version was found in both legumes (which form symbioses with rhizobia -- the textbook nitrogen-fixing symbiosis) and in actinorhiza (such as alder) which form symbiotic relationships with frankia bacteria, about which there is little genetic information. The results therefore suggest "a common evolutionary origin of intracellular root symbioses with nitrogen-fixing bacteria."
This work is an important step towards understanding how intelligently everything in nature is engineered and created.
Is it possible that all these complex details developed by chance, accidential?
These are miracles, but miracles who point to a higher intelligence, a Supreme Being, Lord Sri Krishna.
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You are exactly right but the people like Ron Paul that point this out are marginalized and made fun of by the media and the stupid dumbed down public that don't realize that they are all a bunch of slaves as Jim Morrison said.At least as Linda Sandler reports, the Lehman Brothers did it right..nice!
Lehman Brothers Shipped Off $400B Just Before Bankruptcy… Nice !
September 27, 2008
by Linda Sandler Bloomberg
Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc.'s brokerage unit, in the months before its parent filed for bankruptcy protection, lost more than $400 billion in assets, according to the trustee overseeing customer accounts.
Lehman's holding company filed for bankruptcy Sept. 15 claiming $639 billion in assets, using four-month-old data. The wholly owned brokerage unit shrank to less than $100 billion in assets from $500 billion "a few months ago,'' according to a Sept. 19 court statement by James Giddens, the trustee overseeing the settling of Lehman brokerage customer accounts by the Securities Investor Protection Corp.
The loss in value was caused by "changes in the market,'' according to Giddens, a partner at law firm Hughes Hubbard & Reed, who spoke at a bankruptcy court hearing in Manhattan. The runoff may indicate Lehman's customers, including many hedge funds, canceled and closed out trades as they began to doubt the firm's ability to navigate the credit crunch, bankruptcy analysts and lawyers said.
"There was the proverbial run on the bank'' at Lehman, said Martin Bienenstock of the law firm Dewey & LeBoeuf, who is advising clients including Walt Disney Co. on recovering their money from Lehman. There was a similar capital flight from Bear Stearns earlier this year, he said.
Most of Lehman's pre-bankruptcy assets were securities, according to its balance sheets. Lehman said on Sept. 10 that the consolidated gross assets of the firm stood at $600 billion and net assets at $311 billion. The difference between net and gross is the so-called matched book, which is overnight lending or securities pledged for overnight borrowing.
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Cynthia McKinney: 5000 PEOPLE WERE EXECUTED!
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Every planet has an inherent prakrity and element.For example the moon is water / kapha, as are Jupiter and Venus. (Jupiter is also akasha/ether)
Sun and Mars are pita / fire, as is Ketu
Saturn is Vatta / Air, as is Rahu
Mercury is tri-dosha prakrity / balanced, and his elemental nature is influenced exceedingly by his associations.
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I am not happy with myself for answering your question. You should first apologize for the insults you have bestowed elsewhere.
Since I don't know you, how can I insult you? At this forum we discuss topics why you're getting personally involved? Stick to discuss the topic.
Your point was to reject compatibility of the elements without providing any reasonable argument. This is foolishness. When rejecting something you should have provided evidence. Instead you feel insulted, even more foolishness.
Now above I was asking you again, how you derive the quality of a planet within a horoscope - since we are talking about astrology?
The right answer would have been, primarily from the sign, rashi, in which the planet is situated. Rashi is the sign (rashi) that a planet is in at the time of birth (janma).
For example, Sun in Pisces is classified as situated in element Water, you say, in Fire?
This might be the problem why you cannot understand the compatibility of the elements, you consider Sun in Pisces as Sun in fiery element?
This is rather very wrong! A person with Sun in Pisces displays all the characteristics of a personality of water element.
The constellation of Pisces appears as a fish swimming in the waters that pour from Aquarius. In Babylonian times, this star formation was associated with the gods Oannes and Dagon.
These were water deities in the form of fish. Also in this constellation is the Leash– upon which were tied the two fish goddesses, Anunitum and Simmah.
The image of a great fish in the night's constellations has been perceived for thousands of years, by cultures throughout the world.
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I am a devotee of Lord Krishna and I have been going to an ISKCON temple, and attending Bhagavad-Gita classes run by ISKCON devotees for a few months. I have decided that I want to be a Gaudiya Vaishnava, and that this is the spiritual path that I want to follow.However, tonight I visited a Gaudiya Math Temple. While it wasn't as big or as opulent as the ISKCON temple, and while their kirtan wasn't as long, I liked it. Apparently Narayana Maharaja is coming to Malaysia in 3 months time or so, and I would like to meet him.
From those on this forum who are either Gaudiya Vaishnavas (ISKCON, Gaudiya Math, Sri Chaitanya Saraswat Math etc), what would your advice be? Join ISKCON, who requires 16 rounds a day for initiation, which I don't know if I could do, or go with Gaudiya Math, who are less rigid and set in stone on initiation requirements?
Hare Krishna!
Guess you have to think more practical. Spiritual life doesnt only mean to chant 16 rounds, it means primarily sadhu-sanga. Srila Narayana Maharaja will visit may be once a year for 3-4 days.
The rest of the year you need nice sanga with devotees to whom you can have the best relationship. Where do you want to see yourself in ten years? You have to develop either a Krsna centered household or develop in a profession that goes together with the path of bhakti.
Becoming initiated is quite easy, but how to successfully develop your service - occupational career - in the long run should be of import.
Where do think you get better support?
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you have no desire to understand me. bas.Please answer only this question, how do you derive the quality of a planet, by rashi or bhava? Sign or House? Quality in this context either, Water, Earth, Air, Fire.
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Homer Simpson tries to vote for Obama
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There's More Than One Kurma dasa
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By Kurma dasa, the well known devotee cook from AustraliaDear Revered Devotees,
Please accept my humble obeisances! All glories to Srila Prabhupada!
This is Kurma dasa, disciple of Srila Prabhupada, cookbook writer.
Is there more than one, you ask? Yes! There are a few Kurma dasas around. There is myself, there is Kurma dasa in Mayapur, and of course there is Kurma Rupa. There may be more. I often get sent letters meant for Kurma Rupa, and maybe he gets a few of mine.
Why am I telling you this? The reason is that for some time now I have been tolerating a certain other devotee called 'Kurma dasa' who has has been posting salacious, Ritvik-inspired criticisms on some other websites.
This 'other Kurma dasa' is Ken McCleod, who, some years ago, apparently visited New Vrindavan, took initiation from Kirtanananda Swami and received the name "Kurma dasa". He now lives in Melbourne. I know him well, he knows me, and he writes a lot of critical articles for these fault-finding websites. To avoid confusion as to the author's identity, I have asked him humbly to stop writing these articles under the name "Kurma dasa", but he declined. Maybe he figured he could get some mileage with that name, a bit like 'smoking ganja with someone else's hand', as Srila Prabhupada so aptly put it.
To make it worse (for me) 'the other Kurma dasa' often mentions Australia in his critiques, and this has further convinced a number of people that it is indeed Australia-based Kurma dasa the cook who is writing those articles.
I had approached the editor of one of those other websites and asked him to rectify the misunderstanding by mentioning, in the 'by-line' that the author was not me, Kurma dasa ACBSP. He appeared less than enthusiastic but graciously agreed, finally, to add, way down at the end of Ken's articles "Kurma das (not the chef)". However, many readers stop reading before they get to the end of Ken's stuff, perhaps thinking "boy that Kurma's really gone off the deep end…!".
Dear readers, recently some of these articles have been quoted and discussed on more mainstream, respectable (and respectful) websites, prompting a few of my friends to question me about my allegiances. They thought it was way out of character for me to criticise devotees in print, and I explained to them exactly what I am explaining to you here: I am not the author.
So dear worshipable devotees, please let it be known that I am not a follower of so-called 'Ritvik' doctrine, and I am not an envious fault-finder; I love the devotees. I am a loyal member of Iskcon. I aspire for the mercy and good wishes of all the disciples, grand-disciples and grand-grand-disciples of Srila Prabhupada, ad infinitum, and beg you to not think of me as an offender of the Vaisnavas.
At your service,
Kurma dasa
website: http://www.kurma.net/
blog: http://www.iskcon.net.au/kurma/
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</small> 61. Causelessmercy - Evening Darsana - July 7, 1976, Washington, D.C.
Our star will eventually turn into a red giant, will incinerate this earth. Other stars, the astrologers have found, or astronomers, excuse me Prabhupāda: You find out that verse
That s all right.Gurudāsa: Actually, even the scientists say there is astrological reasons behind Rāhu the planet.Pañca-draviḍa: So they re predicting five thousand years
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He was a great astrologer. So he told me that from Benares the Germans have taken three books: one is Akāśa-patola, one is Kapota-vahi and his Khapoda-vahi. Khapoda-vahi, this
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In astrology also, the moment is calculated like that. If the exact moment is there, by mathematical calculation, he can give you the exact history of your whole life. This is
Then they come before the child and the astrologer to hear the future life of the child. Nanda Mahārāja and other members of the family dressed and sat down in front of the
So he was a learned astrologer. He said, Nanda Mahārāja, your this son formerly had three other colors: śuklo raktas tathā pīta. He was of white color, He was of red color,
I don t require to be a very expert astrologer or astronomer. I hear from Kṛṣṇa, and I reproduce. Just like child. Father said, This is this; I say, This is this. That s all
But that means they do not know actually the motions.Dr. Patel: And the old astrologers and scientists of India, they have planned it perfectly, when it comes out.Prabhupāda: Our
Vāsudeva will give him all knowledge about science, about politics, about philosophy, about astrology, astronomy. Everything will come out. You haven t got to go to some other
I am still brave.Devotees: Jaya, Śrīla Prabhupāda!Prabhupāda: Some astrologer told that This boy, for executing his purpose, he will enter into the fire. Yes. [break] recently
Bhṛgu-saṁhitā, which reveals information about one s past, present and future lives according to astrological calculations. Somehow or other one must be enlightened about his
Siddhānta-śiromaṇi, an astrological text, the different oceans are described as follows: (1) the ocean of salt water, (2) the ocean of milk, (3) the ocean of yogurt, (4) the
According to revealed scriptures and astrological calculation, the age of Kali is in its five thousandth year. Therefore, Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam was compiled not less than five
Vedic astrology reveals whether one has been born in the vipra-varṇa, kṣatriya-varṇa, vaiśya-varṇa or śūdra-varṇa, according to the three qualities of material nature
He was happy to learn from the learned brāhmaṇas that by astrological calculations the child would be born a first-grade devotee of the Lord, and more confidentially he wanted
is made by a learned astrologer. It is a great science, and misuse of a science does not make it useless. Mahārāja Parīkṣit or even the Personality of Godhead appear in
saṁsāre SYNONYMS lagna gaṇi -by astrological calculation of the birth moment; harṣa-mati very pleased; nīlāmbara cakravartī of the name Nīlāmbara Cakravartī; gupte in
Vedas and astrology, that this boy would be attacked by many demons. Now they actually saw that this was coming true, word for word. All the elderly cowherd men, including Nanda
Bhṛgu-saṁhitā, which reveals information about one s past, present, and future lives according to astrological calculations. Somehow or other one must be enlightened about
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Kṛṣṇa consulted many learned astrologers to find the suitable moment at which to marry Kālindī, and then He married her with great pomp. This marriage ceremony gave much
Vedic evidence, grammar, astrology, rhetoric, vocabulary and logic. Her constant friends are the supplements of the Vedas, the Purāṇas, and she is decorated with the final
India that when a child is born, an astrologer is called for. When Lord Kṛṣṇa, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, appeared five thousand years ago, Gargamuni was called by
I had good opportunities to become a very rich businessman. An astrologer even told me that I should have become as rich as the wealthiest man in India. There were very good
Bhṛgu-saṁhitā, the great astrological calculation. He explained how air, fire, water and earth are generated from ether. He explained how the air in the stomach works and
And we cover eastern religions. We did a feature article this month on Bishop James Pike, UFOs, astrology. You know Dr. Bode, Frambose Bode from the theol He s with Manley Hall.
Berkeley and he majored in astrology and chemistry. And he s an atheist. And his logic is is that it s very empirical is that if there s other life, they have to have bodies
saṁsāre SYNONYMS lagna gaṇi -by astrological calculation of the birth moment; harṣa-mati very pleased; nīlāmbara cakravartī of the name Nīlāmbara Cakravartī; gupte in
Therefore without liberated man, you cannot get real knowledge. Therefore you ll find even the so-called scientists, astrologer, and the astronomer, or They re studying this
It is not astrology. It is Everything is there in the Vedic knowledge. Veda means knowledge, full knowledge. You take advantage of it and become learned.Thank you. (end) THIS WEB
Jyotir-veda means astronomy , astrology not astronomy. Because any other, the less intelligent than brāhmaṇas, the kṣatriyas, the vaiśyas, the śūdras, they would need the
It is called bhūtejyā. One of our big politician, Indian politician, some astrologer said that He has become a dog in Scandinavia. But you cannot deny. You cannot deny. If you
In astrology, a man is considered fortunate who has great wealth, very good sons or a very good wife. Of these three, one who has a very good wife is considered the most fortunate
If according to astrological calculation the combination is perfect, then marriage takes place. Sometimes, however, there is a mistake, and family life becomes frustrating. It
Astrological calculations are called jyoti-śāstra. Because the jyoti, or effulgence, in the material world comes from the different stars and planets, the science is called
make a horoscope according to astrological calculations. But the child to which Mamatā gave birth was begotten by Bṛhaspati irreligiously, for although Mamatā was the wife of
Consequently you have only four heads. PURPORT Śrīla Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura, one of the greatest astrologers of his time, gives information from Siddhānta-
Vaiṣṇava gosvāmī opinions available in astrological and astronomical calculations. By calling Nityānanda Prabhu a bhraṣṭa avadhūta (a rejected paramahaṁsa), Advaita
vijñāya knowing (from the brāhmaṇa astrologers); māninī being very proud; devayānī the daughter of Śukrācārya; pituḥ of her father; geham to the house; yayau
He immediately offered, I have got this seven dollars. You take it. He was astrologer. He said, No, you have got eight dollars. But I ll not take your money. No, no, you take, sir
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He was a great astrologer, and he opened an astrological school when he was young man. And there are many big students still practicing. They are all students of my Guru
That we understand from the astrological books.Dr. Arnold Toynbee: Yes.Prabhupāda: Yes. ... gives me This is a fact. Recently one astrologer has said that one of the biggest politicians
Just like an astrologer can say it is going to happen. You ... say, No, there will be no sun. It is neither astrology, neither anything. It is knowledge. You have no knowledge; you
lagna gaṇi -by astrological calculation of the birth moment; pūrve ... smilingly said, "Formerly I ascertained all this by astrological calculation and noted it in writing. Adi14.14
I know that (indistinct) here is an astrologer. I can do astrological charts. Do you consider that māyā? [break]Allen Ginsberg: I don t know how It s difficult for me to
The planets in our solar system, I mean.Prabhupāda: Yes, astrology. Astrology. There is planetary system. It is the Vedic system. You can see at night. The whole planetary system
India, marriage took place only after an astrological calculation of past, present, and future ... bride and bridegroom by consulting an astrologer who could see the future. Nowadays
Just like one astrologer has explained that Jawaharlal Nehru has become a dog in Scandinavia. (laughs) There is chance. Tathā dehāntara- prāptiḥ. You will have to change your
So that was calculated astrologically, that what kind of name he should be given, because the name should carry some meaning of the activities of his life. So Kṛṣṇa is named
Vyāsadeva could see this by his transcendental vision. As an astrologer can see the future fate of a man, or an astronomer can foretell the solar and lunar eclipses, those
And some astrologer told me that: You should have become like Birla. So there was some chances, very good chances. I was manager in a big chemical factory. I started my own
People have become so misguided, they are memorizing. In our country some astrologer has said that one big politician, he has become one of the two dogs in Scandinavia! Now here
And they give some astrological hint also. So in this way people gave them some contribution. That is their livelihood. So this All the systems were made very easy on account of
It is no astrology. It is natural conclusion.Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Common sense.Paramahaṁsa: That d mean total destruction.Prabhupāda: Well, total or partial, that we shall see
Vedic system as soon as a child is born, immediately expert brāhmaṇas, astrologers, are called. Automatically, they That is called jāta-kriyā. There is a function. There are
And one astrologer sometimes he read my hand. He said in Hindi, kukum calena(?) Kukum calena means Your hand speaks that your order will be executed. Devotees: Jaya!Prabhupāda:
So everything is predicted by astrological calculation.So Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu is predicted in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam and other scriptures as the Supreme Personality of
Logy does not mean that.Jayatīrtha: Still, they re awarding Ph.D. s in theology.Prabhupāda: Just like astrology. That is a science. Eh? What is that?Jayatīrtha: But still they
Vedic literatures are given to him to help him search out his father and his paternal property. The astrologer Sarvajña further advised the poor man: Don t dig on the southern
Kāśī on the advice of an astrologer, and actually it so happened that after the marriage of the King s daughter with Śvaphalka there was sufficient rainfall in the province.
Learned scholars in astrology, they were calculating the horoscope of the newly born child. So he was being described that This child, this baby now born, he will be hero like
He should not indulge in unnecessary books or adopt professions like astrology, nor should he try to become a great orator. He should also give up the path of unnecessary argument
There he rested in a hotel, but the hotelkeeper was informed by an astrologer employed there that Sanātana Gosvāmī had some gold coins with him. The hotelkeeper, desiring to
At the time of birth, a person s situation according to different astral influence, and then the astrology science can make his horoscope, his future activities, his future hopes
Cakravartī, a renowned astrologer, foretold that the child would be a great personage in time; and he, therefore, gave him the name Viśvambhara. The ladies of the neighborhood
And that is already there. Guṇa-karma-vibhāgaśaḥ. The, the, in Vedic astrology, jāta-karma, they will say that This child is a śūdra, this child is a brāhmaṇa, this
Even astronomy, astrology, politics, sociology, atomic theory, everything is there. Vidyā-bhāgavatāvadhi. Therefore if we study Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam very carefully, then you
Vedic astrology reveals whether one has been born in the brāhmaṇa class, the kṣatriya class, the vaiśya class, or the śūdra class, according to the three qualities of
But where he is now? Can anyone say where is Napoleon? One astrologer in India has said that Jawaharlal Nehru is now a dog in the house of a gentleman in Sweden.Guru Gaurāṅga:
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What I'm saying is that you clearly dislike me.If the Sun is in Leo/Simha the sun will be VERY happy. There are several reasons, the primary being that he owns that rashi/sign. Since he owns it, all of it's qualities, including element, are compatible with his. Naturally.
If the sun is in Leo in the 2nd House the sun will still be quite strong. His fire element will NOT be as pronounced however, because the 2nd bhava IS an earth / artha bhava and will detract somewhat from the fire sign that builds it.
This discussion is now pertaining to an entirely different thread. But, you were discussing "compatibility" so I had the distinct impression that you were discussing the assessment of compatibility of TWO individuals. Perhaps I misunderstood you, for which I apologize.
Since I thought you were discussing elemental compatibility between individuals I brought up that elemental signs can be either 2 or 4 bhavas away from each other and therefore might be either complimentary or non-complimentary.
It now appears, however that you were discussing the compatibility of a planet in a sign. And I agree.
No, you rejected from the very beginning the whole concept of compatibility, even stating you reject common sense examples, like water kills fire. Bhavas have nothing to do with compatibility in the primary sense, nobody except you says, "I'm a water house".
Since millions of years people say the sign of the Sun what they're, why you change everything?
Next you say Prabhupada was not an astrologer. Might be true, but, one shouldnt forget to mention that he made in his lifework at least 100 pro astrology statements. But people highlighting, "he wasnt an astrologer."
"So anyway, this is the Vedic system, that when a child is born, immediately his horoscope is made. Astrological science is so perfect. The moment the child is born, immediately calculated, "What is the position of this moment?" Then they derive calculation, "This child will be like this, this will be this, will be this, this." I had also horoscope—the other day I was talking—and it was clearly written, that horoscope, that "This child, after seventy years, he will be great religious propagator and establish so many temples."Devotees: Jaya!
Prabhupāda: Yes. This is astrology. Those of my students who have seen my horoscope in India, it is clearly written there. So that is horoscope.
So while the brāhmaṇas were writing horoscope, so Mahārāja Yudhiṣṭhira's anxiety was…"
Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 1.15.38
by His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda
Los Angeles, December 16, 1973
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Es scheinen 106 zitate zum thema astrology auf und nichts dergleichen von wegen astrologie ist maya etc.
1. Causelessmercy - Ebook - Sri Caitanya-caritamrta - Adi-lila - 17.3
On another day an astrologer came who was supposed ... brāhmaṇas were expert in astrology, people would also be ... a first-class physician, astrologer and priest. The important
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2. Causelessmercy - Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, Madhya-lila 20.125 - New York, November ...
Caitanya is giving one example, that a astrologer has come to ... out? So the astrologer Astrologer, a perfect astrologer is called sarvajña ... future. A real astrologer means he will
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3. Causelessmercy - Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, Madhya-lila 20.330-335 - New York...
So when a child is born the astrologer is called. Still that system ... many things still. So this astrologer was so accurate. I have ... that I have come. So astrology is so nice.So when
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4. Causelessmercy - Ebook - Sri Caitanya-caritamrta - Madhya-lila - 20.3
Once a learned astrologer came to the house of ... PURPORT Sometimes we go to an astrologer or palmist when we are in ... TRANSLATION "By the words of the astrologer, the poor man s connection
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5. Causelessmercy - Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.16.1 - Los Angeles, December 29, 1973
He ruled by those great qualities which were foretold by expert astrologers at the ... That is called astrologer. It is called ... learned scholar, brāhmaṇas, astrologer, will come and
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6. Causelessmercy - Ebook - Sri Caitanya-caritamrta - Adi-lila - 13.3
Mahāprabhu] then did an astrological calculation and said that ... According to Jyotir-vedic astrology, when it is calculated ... previously also a great astrologer, says that in the
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7. Causelessmercy - Ebook - Krishna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead - 8
Muni as one of the great authorities in astrological science. The foretellings of astrological science, ... By his astrological calculation, Garga ... to astrological calculation,
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8. Causelessmercy - Ebook - Krishna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead - 5
Mahārāja called for learned astrologers and brāhmaṇas to perform ... birth of a child, the astrologers calculate the moment of the ... the child and the astrologer to hear of the
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9. Causelessmercy - Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, Madhya-lila 20.137 - New York, November ...
Caitanya explained to the poverty-stricken man that simile. The astrologer is foretelling ... of the astrologer-like Vedic ... giving us hint, astrological instructions, that we
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10. Causelessmercy - Morning Walk - November 11, 1975, Bombay
Oh, you are so nice astrologer. What is astrology? It is a common sense. ... no sun, (laughter) is that astrology? Even it is astrology, this astrology is known to everyone. Hare
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India there is an astrological system, it is ... Bhṛgu-saṁhitā, the astrologer can say what ... dharmādharma-nidarśanam. There is astrology, there are experienced persons
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12. Causelessmercy - Bhagavad-gita 4.4 - Bombay, March 24, 1974
Just like the astrology. Astrology, by calculation through the śāstra, astrological calculation can say what you ... next life. There is an astrological system. They can say like
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13. Causelessmercy - Ebook - The Journey of Self-Discovery - 7
Vedic culture, immediately after a boy s birth astrologers should calculate what ... he belongs to. Astrology can help if ... a first-class astrologer. Such an astrologer can tell what
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14. Causelessmercy - Ebook - Srimad-Bhagavatam - Canto 1 - 12.2
viprāḥ persons well versed in the Vedas; jātaka-kovidāḥ persons expert in astrology and in ... expert in astrological knowledge and ... vipras were good astrologers who could tell
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15. Causelessmercy - Ebook - The Path of Perfection - 10
West, it is common for astrologers to make minute ... can be determined by astrological calculation. In this verse ... is accepting those astrological principles, confirming that
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16. Causelessmercy - Morning Walk - June 30, 1975, Denver
Māyāpur there is one astrologer and he Prabhupāda: ... he has given very accurate astrology readings to some of our ... aparādha. He did it. Some astrologer He admitted that I have
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17. Causelessmercy - Morning Walk - January 3, 1974, Los Angeles
Therefore we, we follow the astrology according to the constellation. ... Prabhupāda: That is there in astrology, astronomy. That is not discovery ... No, if In some astrological book, if
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18. Causelessmercy - Room Conversation - September 2, 1973, London
Just like one astrologer has said that ... In Delhi, one astrologer.Guest (1): Delhi, some astrologer said?Prabhupāda: Yes ... do not believe in astrology. Therefore they cannot take
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19. Causelessmercy - Ebook - Srimad-Bhagavatam - Canto 1 - 16
abhijāta-kovidāḥ expert astrologers at the time ... which were foretold by expert astrologers at the time of his ... Parīkṣit s birth, the expert astrologer-brāhmaṇas foretold some
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20. Causelessmercy - Morning Walk - July 1, 1975, Denver
Narayana [break] astrologer, who was telling me? ... Mahārāja, he knows. The astrologer in Māyāpur?Bhāvānanda: Oh ... Gañj there s one big astrologer. So he saw your photograph
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21. Causelessmercy - Evening Conversation - January 25, 1977, Puri
And one girl, that captain s wife, she studied astrology. She said, Swami, if you ... Just imagine what kind of astrologer. The modern astrologers, they cannot foretell like that,
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22. Causelessmercy - Ebook - Srimad-Bhagavatam - Canto 9 - 18
If according to astrological calculations the boy ... the girl, without this astrological compatibility the marriage would ... If according to astrological calculations there was
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23. Causelessmercy - Srimad-Bhagavatam 6.1.47 - Dallas, July 29, 1975
There are still astrological calculation in India called Bṛghu-saṁhitā. ... present and future. Immediately they will give. The astrology science is so perfect. What you were in
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24. Causelessmercy - Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.15.38 - Los Angeles, December 16, 1973
Astrological science is so perfect. The moment the child is ... so many temples. Devotees: Jaya!Prabhupāda: Yes. This is astrology. Those of my students who have seen my horoscope
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25. Causelessmercy - Ebook - Srimad-Bhagavatam - Canto 8 - 18
Ṭhākura, an expert astrologer, explains the word nakṣatra-tārādyāḥ. ... became situated very auspiciously, according to astrological calculations, to celebrate the birth of
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26. Causelessmercy - Ebook - Sri Caitanya-caritamrta - Adi-lila - 13
Cakravartī, who was a great astrologer, immediately prepared a horoscope, and by astrological calculation he saw that the child was a great personality. This chapter describes
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27. Causelessmercy - Ebook - Krishna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead - 3
Lord, the constellations became very auspicious. The astrological influence of the star known ... of Brahmā. According to the astrological conclusion, besides the proper situation
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28. Causelessmercy - Room Conversation - November 3, 1973, New Delhi
Śrīdhara Mahārāja told me. Some astrologer has Brahmānanda: He s taken his birth ... and preach, instead of earning money. Yes. Some astrologer told me that I should have been a
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29. Causelessmercy - Ebook - Teachings of Lord Caitanya - 8
13) by the astrologer Gargamuni, who calculated Kṛṣṇa s horoscope in ... the earth about the sun. According to Vedic astrological calculations, the twenty-four hours of a day
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30. Causelessmercy - Ebook - Srimad-Bhagavatam - Canto 3 - 24
The parents used to astrologically determine the character and tastes of ... according to taste and character. According to astrological calculation, a person is classified according to
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anger/hatred, you're kidding?No it's really very basic vedic astrology.I said that YOUR presentation of Prabhupada's statement was *interesting*, but that it had some flaws when viewed against more basic rules of compatibility. Of course elemental compatibility is fundamental. Prabhupada was no Jyotishi - but still this is common knowledge. I simply felt that the way you put it could be wrong it it was taken to mean the elements of the rashis and bhavas. Rather it means that the element of the planet should be compatible with the element of it's rashi and bhava for best effect.
I agree 100%!
I don't sell software generated reading. I give them away for free as a courtesy service, and I personally wrote the entire software that I use.
Do you think I don't use ayanamsha?
Yes. So? In a Vedic chart afflictions to the 1st House, 1st Sign and Lord of the 1st House signify afflictions to the head, such as migranes. This will be particularly true if it recurs in relation to the chandra lagna and the surya lagna.
Please don't try to argue with me simply out of anger or hatred. I can out argue almost ANYONE. And I don't want to waste my time. When I am wrong I plainly admit it, as you will find I did elsewhere on this forum to other people. I don't mind being wrong at all, but I don't like you personally bearing hatred towards me for some dogmatic reason.
If you don't like me please ignore me. From now on I will ignore you unless you indicate that you would like an improved relationship.
Jai Hanuman.
You say,"Bhava/Rashi", that you derive the quality of a planet from the house and not from the sign. In other words, someone has his Sun in Lion, Lion=fiery element. Now let's say this Sun is situated in house two, sign is Lion. You say, house two is assigned to element Earth therefore, Sun in Lion in house two, this Sun is in element Earth.
This is just wrong and has nothing to do with anger/hatred. It is wrong, wrong, wrong!
A Sun in Lion in house 2 is first of all Lion, fiery element.
To interpret this Sun in sign Lion as situated in element Earth as you say, is just wrong.
Did you ever hear someone saying, I'm a Lion but my Sun is in a Water house, therefore I'm not a Lion?
This is just totally wrong!
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Good news from Auckland, New Zealand, Yuga Avatar prabhu, he's suggesting, this is good, lets act as siksa agents and preach on behalf of the acharyas. Finally a staunch GM/ISKCON follower de facto surrendering to the real path - we need to preach on behalf of the bona fide acharyas.
Sublime Siksa Line versus Ritvik Sahijya Deviation
BY: YUGA AVATAR DAS
Oct 02, AUCKLAND, NEW ZEALAND — A personal letter to Madhudvisa das.
To my new friend Madhudvisa das, we have a close siksa guru in Jayadharma prabhu. Please accept my obeisances.
diksa guru kripa kori mantra upadesa, koriya dekhan krishna tattva nirdesa, siksa guru brnda kripa koriya apar, sadhake sikhan sadhaner anga sar appears in Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakur's Kalyana Kalpataru. The translation reads, the initiating spiritual master, diksa guru, shows his causeless mercy by giving his disciples instructions in chanting the mantra. By doing so he points the disciples in the direction of the truths pertaining to the Supreme Lord, Sri Krishna. I consider the numerous instructing spiritual masters, siksa gurus, to be more important, for they show mercy by training the sadhakas in all aspects of devotional service.
So this obviously shows Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakur's mood, that this is a siksa line. Also, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakur mentions in his parampara song that it is indeed a siksa parampara. That it is a Bhagavat line, which relies on substance over form, not a line of bodily succession, but recognition of where great Vaishnavas and their conception of pure bhakti takes form and shape. In other words, Biphin Bihari Goswami formally initiated Bhaktivinoda Goswami, after a dream Thakur Bhaktivinoda had in which Chaitanya Mahaprabhu informed him to take the swami as his diksa guru. However, Biphin Bihari Goswami was addicted to smoking and had accepted several erroneous conceptions about pure devotional service, notably concerning Raghunatha das Goswami coming from a lower caste.
Hence, on a pretense of being ill, Srila Bhaktivonda Thakura sent his son, who confronted and defeated the assembled caste brahmins, the majority being convinced of his superior realization. Since Biphin Bihari Goswami had published his position publicly in disagreement to Bhaktivinoda Thakur's position, a mutual distance had been created by the Lord which would remain indefinitely.
Actually Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakur completely rejected the idea that Biphin Bihari Goswami was the guru, or indeed any spiritual benefactor of any kind to Bhaktivinoda Thakur. He commented that Bhaktivinoda Thakur was indeed the delegation of Sri Radharani, not the continuation of a bodily-form line symptomatic of caste brahmanism. Rather, he represented a Bhagavat conception, where preaching substance prevails over form and so-called diksa conception. If being bold, one would submit that it is necessary to have vigor, life and spiritual enthusiasm to preach. And hence you have the presence of the Bhagavat line and siddhanta.
In other words, in a practical example, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Thakur accepted diksa mantra initiation from Gaura Kisore das Babiji maharaja in 1900. He also accepted Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakur as his substantial guru, also receiving mantras to worship the deity in 1881, and hari nama diksa in 1886. Obviously this portrays that Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakur took spiritual nourishment from his two siksa and diksa gurus. Actually it was Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakur who enthusiastically demanded that Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati take diksa from Gaura Kisore das Babiji. This provides those followers of Srila A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada with a unique broad vision of their substantial parampara line.
In conclusion, Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura confirms his opinion that he sees the many siksa guru who daily instruct the sadhakas in all facets of devotional service as more important and demonstrative of our unique spiritual heritage. This interesting perception I gained recently from... prakrta rasa shata... Narasingha Swami, however one should indeed have the mercy of Guru and Gauranga to appreciate its full siddhanta.
So my dear Madhudvisa das, please accept my humble obeisances to yourself and your diksa guru, Jayadharma das, if indeed you are part of Srila Prabhupada's ISKCON movement. Your diksa guru was my close friend and Temple President for at least seven years. However, if you see yourself as approaching through some Ritvik style initiation, then may your new ideas lead you to the real siddhanta and eventual situation at the lotus feet of our glorious previous acaryas mercy.
your servant,
Yuga Avatar das
Om Tat Sat
P.S. Try to see the good within your many siksa gurus, and it is my small realization that indeed your bleak and very sad perception of my devotees will be replaced by Krishna's sublime mercy. This is indeed backed up by this wonderful siksa history, in my humble opinion.
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Spiritual revolution in the world
POSTED 3 OCTOBER 2008
Scientists engaged in discovering the facts of evolution of the world and living organisms have concluded that Homo sapiens represent the completion of the evolutionary cycle of life on earth, through various stages over millions of years..
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<!-- Detail --> MAN IS the only creature among millions of species on earth, gifted with intelligence and the ability to think. Scientists have declared man as the superior most creation. In spite of hefty efforts like the recent ’Big Bang experiment’, science is yet to conclude the principles behind evolution. Vedic philosophy says that the Rishis or seers discovered the principles of evolution long back - millions of years ago. Guru Siyag has announced the commencement of a “spiritual revolution in the world”, which will justify the “words of Vedic philosophy”, practically giving, on-the-spot results, just like modern science. Vedic philosophy is no more a theoretical subject; Guru Siyag has made thousands of seekers to practically experiment and realize the statements of Vedic philosophy, getting an answer to every question, even the evolution of universe.
Man’s endeavour to look into the potential of spirit is limited to the realm of psycho-physical research. In fact, research into deeper aspects of human mind always invariably ends with scientists probing the brain. This is because modern science cannot believe or perceive that human body and mind could be linked to another state of consciousness that exists beyond the limits of our physical world. The result is that the potential possibilities of spirit, vis-à-vis matter, have been left to the interpreters of religious spirituality. This has caused a neat division between scientists and religious leaders, making them look at each with a degree of suspicion and even hostility. Exploiting the physical world has resulted in the neglect of the great potential of the spiritual world with which human body and mind are closely linked. The progress in science and technology has led to greater physical comforts missing peace of mind, leading to competition, conflict, discord and internecine struggle in human society.
Sri Aurobindo, one of 20<sup>th</sup> century’s greatest spiritual masters and seers, accurately diagnosed the current crisis in human society as a result of imbalance in man’s treatment of matter and spirit. He argued through his incisive writings and speeches that mankind will not be at peace with itself unless it achieved a correct balance in exploring the potential of spirit and matter. Sri Aurobindo conducted his own independent research into Vedic scriptures to understand and experience the cosmic consciousness and its impact on the physical world. After nearly 40 years of practising what he called integral Yoga as part of his practical research, he made a startling discovery — man is not at the pinnacle of life’s evolutionary cycle on earth. Man is only a ‘transitional being’, yet to evolve further in the realm of spirit.
Vedic philosophy describes human body as the physical abode of soul. The soul is made up of seven sheaths – Annamaya Kosha (matter in the form of physical body sustained by intake of food), Pranamaya Kosha (the life force), Manomaya Kosha (mind as distinctly different from intelligence), Vigyanmayaa Kosh (intelligence), Aanandmaya Kosha (bliss or ceaseless joy not connected with body or mind), Chitta Kosha (spiritual wisdom) and Satta Kosha (the final state of merging with the infinite). The complete development of all the seven sheaths is necessary for man’s complete spiritual evolution. Man has developed the first four sheaths through the physical evolutionary process till date. What about completing the last three stages of his evolution? Sri Aurobindo, assisted by his French disciple known as the Mother, realized during his meditative states that the final evolution could happen only if the cosmic consciousness (which he described as Krishna’s supramental force) descended on earth. Both Sri Aurobindo and Mother, fired by an altruistic zeal to save mankind from imminent annihilation, dedicated themselves to the most arduous practice of Yoga for years to create a spiritual environment conducive to such descent. Their dedication bore fruit. On November 24, 1926, the Mother announced to a small group of Sri Aurobindo’s disciples that Krishna’s supramental force had descended on earth and assumed a human form. It was the day on which Guru Siyag was born.
Sri Aurobindo and Mother were convinced that the person, who had been thus chosen for the manifestation of the Krishna consciousness in the physical world, would himself undergo the last three stages of ‘Anand’, ‘Chit’ and ‘Sat’. The chosen one’s mission would be to bring about the kind of spiritual evolution that he had undergone himself. Sri Aurobindo and Mother were also convinced that if one man on earth underwent complete spiritual revolution, it was practically possible for millions of others to experience this divine transformation, by following the same method. They were aware of the evolution of the Chosen one to be subject to all the trials and tribulations that were part of every human life. They knew that eventually the chosen one would be made fully conscious of his real mission on earth. This happened in 1969 when Guru Siyag achieved the Gayatri Siddhi in the wee hours of a winter morning in a Rajasthan town. He was engulfed in the divine light of the supramental force, changing his life forever. In the distant coastal town of Pondichery in southern India, the Mother, who was always connected with cosmic consciousness, instantly received the vibrations of this momentous happening. She simply said her own mission was complete, as Krishna’s supramental force had become active that day. Given below is an excerpt from Mother’s writings of the vision she saw: “November 26/27, 1968: Powerful and prolonged infiltration of supramental forces into the “body” everywhere at the same time, as though the whole body “bathed” in the forces that entered everywhere at the same time with a slight friction, the head down to the neck was the last receptive region. In 1969, on January 1, 1969 at two o’clock in the morning a consciousness descended on the earth’s atmosphere and “settled” there. It was the most marvellous descent, full of light, force, power, joy and peace and suffused the ‘whole’ earth.”
It is the Indian spiritual belief that all the saints and true spiritual masters work in unison at a subtle consciousness level for the betterment of mankind. So, it was with Sri Aurobindo and the Mother. Their own practice of Yoga was actually the spadework for the spiritual revolution of mankind. Other Articles by Shankarlal Purohit
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The predictions made by Sri Aurobindo and the Mother about the descent of Krishna consciousness in human form and its eventual rise through trial and tribulations find amazing echo and identity in Guru Siyag’s journey from leading an ordinary material existence to his eventual transformation into a spiritual master with the blessings of his guru Shri Gangainathji.
Though Guru Siyag is now ready for his global mission, he faces ignorance, indifference and even hostility at every step, just as prophets like Moses and Jesus did. But Guru Siyag is unperturbed. He is well aware that Krishna’s divine consciousness working within him cannot fail. The divine mission will succeed no matter how many stormy seas Guru Siyag is called upon to cross. West is the leader of the world’s material progress. So Guru Siyag is keen to take his Siddha Yoga to the West to begin a spiritual movement based on cosmic consciousness. He believes that only such a movement will eventually bring about a union of East’s spiritualism and West’s materialism to usher in a true spiritual revolution in mankind.
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Could be a successful preaching program to set up a tent at Wall Street for shaving up new bhaktas...
Wall Street banker swapped finance to become a monk in a remote Bulgarian village
Daily Mail – October 3, 2008
A former Wall Street banker has swapped the world of finance for religion and become a monk.
Brother Nikanor advises former colleagues to put a jar with soil on their desks to remind them where we are all heading and what matters in life.
As western banks fold into each other like crumpled tickets and commentators portray the current crisis as the last gasp of modern capitalism, Hristo Mishkov, 32, shares the pain - and offers home truths.
His story partly resembles that of Brother Ty, the monk-tycoon protagonist of the 1998 satire 'God is my Broker' by U.S. writers Christopher Buckley and John Tierney - he failed on Wall Street and became a monk.
But 10 years later, the similarities are superficial: the Bulgarian had a successful broking career, does not write self-help manuals and aims to get happy, not rich.
His interest in financial markets began under communism in the 1980s when he and other children created their own play stock exchange in their apartment block's basement in Sofia.
Brother Nikanor
Five years ago, after failing to find happiness in the life he lived, the Christian Orthodox who hadn't practised as a child quit the New York-based market for a dilapidated Bulgarian monastery that once served as a communist labour camp.
Retaining one luxury - a mobile phone, which connects him with both potential donors and former trading colleagues - he has brought the rigour of his broking experience to his faith.
He has helped to raise hundreds of thousands of levs (dollars) to rebuild the monastery - a hard task in a country where charity is not part of the mentality and building shopping malls and golf courses is a priority.
'Many people... in the world do not realise that they have not earned the food they eat, that they take without giving,' Mishkov said. 'But if someone consumes more than they have earned, it means someone else is starving.
'It is right to see people who consume more than they deserve shattered by a financial crisis from time to time, to suffer so that they can become more reasonable.'
Being a trader has seldom been more traumatic: placing bets on political decisions about billion-dollar bank bailouts which, if they fail, could mean much more than a bad day for yourself or colleagues, but also jeopardise livelihoods.
Some have found solace in religion, others in humour, but a few fall. Surveys show traders reporting more stress and every news report of a trader suicide is accompanied by suggestions the pressure may have been too much.
'We always search for happiness in the outside world, in material things, which makes us constantly unsatisfied, angry with ourselves and the world,' said Mishkov, who exudes a sense of tranquillity, intelligence, and humour.
Greed and the marketisation of our lives have reached the point where people have been turned into a commodity - even their health can be traded like a stock, he said.
'We have so quickly lost our human appearance, we have become beasts ... There's no-one to count on and say "hey neighbour come help me". He will come but demand a payment.'
His monastery, tucked among hills 31 miles west of Sofia, was founded in the 12th century. The communist regime which banned religion turned it into a labour camp, then a children's pioneer camp and a livestock farm.
Now Mishkov works hard every day milking buffalo cows and building stone walls. He says he is not against rich people but can only respect those who contribute to the good of society - pointing to Microsoft founder Bill Gates as an example.
As a younger man working for more than two years for Karoll, one of Bulgaria's leading brokerages, Mishkov was good at his job, former colleagues say.
'He was a religious person and that annoyed me sometimes,' said Alexander Nikolov, head of international capital markets at Karoll.
'There were occasions when he would not show up at work because of some religious holiday.'
His colleagues were stunned when he decided to become a monk, but Mishkov felt the time had come to look after people's souls.
'Everybody can be a good broker but this does not bring much benefit for the world,' he said. 'Religion can help people cope in today's stressful times and find answers,' Mishkov added.
Churches in New York's financial district reported last month increased attendance at lunchtime meetings, with many more people in business attire than usual, when some of the world's biggest investment banks collapsed.
Steven Bell, chief economist of London hedge fund GLC, said keeping a sense of reality is what traders needed.
'It is very important to just remind yourself that there is a real world out there. In any job but particularly in financial markets, you need to try and keep your feet on the ground,' Bell added.
Mishkov says the crash should also help correct a dangerous global trend of an excessive outflow of labour to the service sectors, by people attracted by high pay and an easy life.
'Milk is not produced by computers, bread doesn't come from a good company PR. It is necessary to plough, sow and harvest before that,' says the monk.
Discussion: Natural Gas Extraction At New Vrindaban
in The Hare Krishna Forum
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Natural Gas Extraction Meeting: September 19, 2008
First, for those following this discussion, here is a good background site to peruse:
Kevin Lewis’s article on (non-hysterical) environmental hazards of gas drilling
Now, the notes (with a big thanks to Labangalatika dd, clearly the best of the notetakers):
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Attendance for the September 19 meeting was notably lower. The meeting was not broadly announced, and it was suspected that this was at least partly why attendance was low. The meeting began informally, and discussion picked up as participants began to trickle in. The following issues were discussed:
Making New Vrindaban a self-sufficient community
Impact of drilling
Public reception and opinion
[*] Preaching as our prime mission - self-sufficiency and progressive movement attractive to American public in particular; NV’s best preaching point - environmental outreach
[*] Americans could go either way, depending on whether they view natural gas development as progressive or a sell-out
[*] Most of the younger people will be against drilling (many also see foam plates, gas-run vehicles, etc as part of the problem)
[*] Stimulating or alienating donor base
Consciousness, mood and capability in New Vrindaban community
Need and use for money
NV perception
[*] What if we decide in favor of the drilling and half the community leaves
[*] “Drug user” analogy: going from user to dealer (with gas drilling), or from heroin to methadone (natural gas instead of oil) (and would we ever get off the methadone)?
[*] Many private property owners need money, are going to go for opportunity
[*] Opportunity to foster community spirit, participation
[*] If things stay the same, no impetus to change