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  1. There seems quite some differences in governmental performance between Indian federal states.


    Home > 2008 Issues > October 22, 2008





    The Government Of Madhya Pradesh has not only improved the infrastructure of the state but also made all efforts to make the life of common man easier. Today, women, farmers, tribals, Scheduled Castes, artisans, sportspersons, small entrepreneurs and the deprived people speak with confidence to the Chief Minister in Panchayats called at Chief Minister Residence. It is the biggest and a unique exercise in the history of Independent India that hundreds of policy decisions of the state have been taken by the common people. The lok (public) is no longer a pichlaggu (blind follower) of the tantra (system) in the state. Public now decides the nature, direction, speed and form of the system. This strength of people was also used in monitoring the implementation of various schemes of the government. Immediately, corrective steps were taken if any complaint against the system was received, as janvani (people’s voice) is the devvani (God’s voice) for us.






    Jahaz Mahal in Mandu, Madhya Pradesh, India.




    For improvement in infrastructure, I would like to mention the power sector first. The government has taken exclusive steps to enhance the availability of electricity and improve the quality of power supply during the last four and a half years. During this period the projects for producing additional 3147 MW power were set up whereas the state had witnessed only 2991 MW power production during the last 50 years. During the year 2007-08 a total of 35,800 million units of electricity were supplied which is 32 per cent more than the 27100 million units supplied during the year 2002-03. Similarly, the maximum demand of 6684 MW power was met during the year 2007-08, which is 44 per cent more than the 4652 MW supplied during the year 2002-03. The transmission system has been enhanced up to 68 per cent during this period. The transmission loss was also reduced to 4 per cent from the previous 8 per cent in 2002-03. During the last three years, the rate of transformer fault was reduced to 14 per cent from the previous 24 per cent by installing new 30,000 distribution transformers. The tax imposed on Captive Power Units was completely abolished. The rates of electricity have drastically been reduced for the farmers and about 17 lakh temporary connections were provided during the last two years. More than three lakh agriculture pump consumers were benefited. The work of road construction and maintenance done by the state government has been historic in many ways. During the last five years, 40,000 km roads were constructed and improved. Madhya Pradesh is the first state in the country that invited private investment in road construction. In implementation of Pradhanmanti Gram Sadak Yojna too the state is ahead to other states.


    The expansion of irrigation facilities is a matter of pride for us. The total budget for Water Resources Department was Rs 700 crore during the year 2003-04, which was doubled to Rs 1500 crore during the year 2007-08. Similarly the irrigation capacity was enhanced from 50,000 hectares during the year 2003-04 to over one-lakh hectares now. With the budget of Rs 10,000 crore the target of irrigation capacity is seven-lakh hectares under the 11th Five Year Plan. During the year 1998- 2003, the state government granted sanction to 296 new small irrigation projects. But during the last five years we sanctioned 1147 small irrigation projects. An amount of Rs 2000 crore will be spent on them and it is expected to irrigate about two-lakh hectare agriculture land every year. The construction of canal under the Rajghat Project is complete, which has developed additional 1,21,450 hectare irritation capacity. The construction of Bansagar dam is also complete which will irrigate about 50,000-hectare land. The project has started producing 425 MW hydropower. The Marikhera dam under the Sindh Project (second phase) has also started producing 60-MW electricity. The Khet Talab Yojna and wells have also enhanced the irrigation capacity.


    With the objective of all-round development of Narmada Valley, the construction of big irrigation and hydropower projects has been accelerated. About 1,53,000 hectare irrigation capacity and 2356 MW hydropower production has been achieved in the last five years. Shahid Chandrasekhar Azad (Jobat) project that will irrigate about 984-hectare agriculture land in the tribal majority Dhar district, has been completed.


    A govt. of farmers

    Farmers are the backbone of our economy. We have made constant efforts to make the agriculture more profitable. A Kisan Mahapanchayat was organised in Bhopal with the objective of establishing direct dialogue with the farmers. Besides the subsidy given on different schemes, we have decided to give additional 30 per cent subsidy to encourage better utilization of irrigation water. Besides the subsidy given by the Government of India on construction of a five cubic meter capacity biogas plant, the state government gives Rs 2500 per plant as an additional subsidy. Now the government has decided to set up one Kisan Gyan Kendra in all 313 Blocks fully equipped with computer with Internet facility so that the farmers could know the state-of-the-art agriculture technology. Now the ordinary farmers will be granted a subsidy of Rs 24,000 for digging tube wells. The subsidy given on the construction of Balram pond has been enhanced from Rs 50,000 to Rs 80,000. The small farmers who wish to purchase a diesel or electricity pump would be granted subsidy up to 50 per cent (maximum Rs 10,000). The rate of interest charged on the loan from any cooperative bank has been reduced from seven per cent to five per cent w.e.f April 2008. The 2094 primary agricultural credit cooperative societies were provided financial help of Rs 605 crore. Such societies distributed short-term loans of Rs 1274 crore to the farmers during the year 2003-04. But during the year 2007-08, the farmers were distributed loans of Rs 3194 crore which his two and a half time more than the previous limit. This year we wish to provide short-term loan of Rs 4500 crore to farmers. The farmers were issued 31 lakh credit cards so that they could get loan easily from the cooperative societies. The Food Processing Policy has already been promulgated for the benefit of the farmers. The National Agriculture Development Scheme was started in 18 districts. We provided the bonus of Rs 100 per quintal to farmers on purchase of wheat so that they could get fair price of their crops. This year a total of 23,31,000 lakh metric tonne wheat was purchased from the farmers which is a record.


    The farmers who suffered loss due to natural calamities were distributed relief of Rs 344 crore. The notable point is that the government included draught also in the list of natural calamities and distributed relief up to Rs 156 crore. We have even helped the farmers in case any forest animal destroyed their crops. Our objective is to ensure that the farmers should feel beneficial and proud while doing farming.


    Youth employment

    Youth are the future of the state. It is for the first time that a comprehensive Youth Policy was formulated. The ban imposed on recruitment of government jobs was lifted. Besides the government jobs, opportunities of employment were created in other sectors also. We have energised the youth in the field of sports, education and employment. Academies of 13 sports were opened in Bhopal from July 2007. The sportspersons belonging to these Academies won 415 medals at state, national and international level. It includes five international, 180 national and 230 state medals. The number of trainees at training institutes was doubled in order to provide good opportunities of employment in Computer Animation and Tourism. This scheme was extended up to district level and the regions of Sagar, Jabalpur, Ujjain, Gwalior and Reeva were selected for it. The money provided to sportspersons was enhanced from Rs 2000 to 7000 annually. Apart from the Samman Nidhi being provided to internationally fame sportspersons was enhanced from Rs 5000 per month to Rs 10,000 per month throughout their life. Keeping in view the historic success of the National Games held in 2007 the award money for the winners was doubled. Under the PPP scheme a sports village is being established in Bhopal with the budget of Rs 1000 crore. In order to strengthen lower structure of education, 25,968 Shiksha Guarantee Shalas were upgraded to primary level and 14,564 primary schools were upgraded to middle schools. Not only this, 1176 high schools, 215 higher secondary schools, 2132 middle schools and 919 satellite schools were sanctioned this year. It is a unique achievement in the history of the state. The success rate of the government school students in the exams conducted by the Madyamik Shiksha Mandal was better than the reputed private schools this year.


    Honouring the Vanvasis

    We are on top in the country in implementation of Scheduled Tribes and Other Traditional Forest Dwellers (recognized forest rights) Act. We are committed to restore both the samman (respect) and saaman (goods) of tribal. I have started handing over Right’s Letter to tribals from Mandala. Not even the first phase of this scheme has been completed in other states, but Madhya Pradesh has started handing over Right’s Letters also. The government wants tribal should get the right to live and earn livelihood at the very land on which they are living since generations. Leaving the serious forest offences, all the forest offences are being withdrawn and all their seized goods are being returned to them.


    The prices for tendu leaves have been enhanced from Rs 450 to 550 per sack for the year 2008. The bonus amount, which was 50 per cent of earned profit in the collection period, was also enhanced to 60 per cent from the year 2007. The ban imposed on collection of seeds was also lifted and the collection rate was enhanced from Rs 450 to Rs 1000 per quintal. Providing better educational facilities to the new generation of Scheduled Castes is our firm determination. The money provided to the girls under the Girls Literacy Scheme was doubled. We sanctioned four-times more amount for the uniforms. The annual scholarship provided to the students studying in 9th and 10th classes was doubled and the additional scholarship provided to the students studying in 11 and 12th classes is now more than double. Similarly, the money provided to the hostel students of Medical and Engineering is also now more than double. A Kaamdhenu Integrated Tribal Dairy Development Project was started for tribal families of 11 tribal dominated areas of the state.


    Labour and artisan-friendly schemes

    The labourers, sculptures, artisans and artists of the state are our asset. We have promulgated the new Labour Policy for the laboureres. Now, under the Mukhyamantri Mazdoor Surakasha Yojna the government would bear expenses of a woman’s delivery in a family of labourer. Apart from it, the government would provide a fixed amount equivalent to one and a half months wage to the woman at the time of delivery. Not only this, her husband would also be granted a fixed amount equivalent to half-month wage, so that he can look after the woman properly. The scheme also includes scholarship to school going children as well as help at the time of marriage. The Aam Adami Bima Yojna was started for the landless rural labourers from April this year. An amount of Rs 184 crore was provided for the betterment of construction labourers of unorganised sector. A total of eight welfare schemes were launched for them. The minimum wage was revised after a long gap. A total of 21368 weavers and 6000 sculptures were insured under the health insurance scheme. We instituted Vishwakarma Puraskar to encourage the traditional sculptures. The money provided to the sculptures and the weavers for tool-kit was doubled. The provision of Rs 17 crore was made for purchasing the instruments by the artist groups. Safai Kamgar Board and Mati Kala Board have also been constituted.


    Chief Minister Annapurna Yojna

    The state government is standing as defence against the price hike for economically deprived people. Every weaker family is being provided 20 kg wheat and rice on every ration card at the rate of Rs 3 per kg and Rs 4.5 per kg respectively under the Mukhyamantri Annapurna Yojna. Controlling price rise is not under the state government’s limit, but we are spending Rs 255 crore for food security of economically deprived people. This year also Madhya Pradesh is leading in the implementation of National Rural Employment Guarantee Scheme. More than one crore people were issued job cards under this scheme. A total of 1,58,128 projects were completed and work is on at 2,66,172 projects. The district poverty alleviation scheme was implemented in 2,900 villages of 14 districts, which has benefited 56,088 groups.


    A Commission was constituted for the betterment of economically deprived people of general category. Many scholarship schemes for education of such children were implemented from this academic session following the recommendations of this Commission. A Higher Education Loan Guarantee Fund was created to help the talented students of weaker sections.


    An effort to make the state an education hub

    A Private University Act has been enacted. Memorandums of Understanding (MoUs) have been signed to set up 19 private universities under this Act. Madhya Pradesh is the state, which has enacted a law to regulate the fee structure of professional education also.


    The facilities for technical education were expanded all over the state. The number of Engineering Colleges increased up to 142. Eight government polytechnics were converted to co-education. About 500-acre land was identified in Bhopal for creating Special Education Zone. Educational institutions are being equipped with all facilities under the two major educational schemes—Eklavya and Dr Baba Saheb Ambedkar Yojna with a view to provide modern education to the students of SCs and STs. Under the Shilpkar Prashishan Yojna, a total of 14,216 trainees (against the target of 11400) were admitted during the year 2007 and this year we hope to admit around 18,000 trainees.


    The Civil Aviation Department has permitted the Air Strips of the state to run training activities like pilot training, aviation engineering etc. It would provide new opportunity of employment to the youth. The government has decided to provide scholarship to 30 candidates of SCs and 30 candidates of STs for seeking training of Air Hostage and Flight Steward. The government has set new record of inviting investment in the state. The setting up of industries would create employment opportunities for the youth.


    Common man has always been in the centre of all our schemes. I judge the development with only one criterion—improvement in the life of the common man. People talk about human face of development, but Madhya Pradesh practically materialised it. We are committed to continue the people-oriented administration. The journey of development of the state would not stop. We resolve to ensure happiness on the faces of the people of all sections.


    Women empowerment

    During the last a few years, special efforts were made to improve the living standard of mothers and sisters of the state. It has been our endeavor that the mentality of considering the girls a burden should end and they should be accepted as a boon. That is why we have started many schemes for their welfare. Such schemes were even adopted by various other states also. Over 71,000 girls have been benefited under the Ladali Lakshmi Yojna. More than 73,000 weddings have taken place under the Chief Minister Kanyadan Yojna. The budget for providing nutritious diet through Anganwaris was tripled during the last three years. A new Usha Kiran scheme was launched to protect and support the women and children from domestic violence. Another scheme, Tejaswani Rural Women Empowerment Scheme, was launched for the women. It is after 35 years that 20 kinds of foods are being served in Anganwaris instead of one dalia. The Government of India too has praised our schemes of godbharai, Anna prashan, Janmadiwas and Kishor Balika Diwas. We have sanctioned about 20,000 new Anganwari Kendras. It is for the first time that the Anganwari workers and Sahayikas have been granted Rs 1000 and 500 per month respectively. Acharya Vidyasagar Gosamvardhan Yojna is being launched to provide an employment to the economically deprived women belonging to general category of rural areas. Under this scheme every selected women would be provided two milk-giving cows. Our commitment for the welfare of women can be gauged from the fact that we have doubled the budget for Women and Child Department during the last four years. We have regularly shown our commitment towards the welfare of government employees. We have constituted a State Pay Commission. Efforts were made to improve the salary structure and other allowances of the administrative officers.


    An initiative to eradicate untouchability

    The prize-amount to be given to Panchayats for outstanding performance in eradication of untouchability and for development of Scheduled Tribes was enhanced from Rs 5000 to one lakh. The encouraging money for the couples doing inter-caste marriage was enhanced from Rs 10,000 to 50,000. This was done to encourage untouchability alleviation. Sixty new hostels were started from this academic session for the students of Scheduled Castes in order to provide better educational residential facilities. Similarly, 51 hostels were started for the children of nomadic, semi-nomadic and Vimukta communities. The money given to the students of Scheduled Tribes living in hostels was also increased. Now the girls get Rs 525 instead of previous Rs 360 and the boys get Rs 500 instead of Rs 350. The scholarship amount for Scheduled Caste students studying in 9th and 10th classes was doubled. Similarly, the money given to the girls studying in 11th class under Kanya Saksharta Protsahan Yojna was enhanced from Rs 2000 to Rs 3000. Our government increased the budget amount for betterment of Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes three times during the last five years. It was enhanced from Rs 717 crore in the year 2002-03 to Rs 2180 crore in the year 2008-09. The money spent for the welfare of tribal was increased from Rs 1263 crore in 2002-03 to Rs 3142 in 2008-09.



    Eight million people have reportedly quit farming between 1991 and 2001, this is really an awful lot and looks like a complot to maneuvre so many people from save rural living into ugly city slums.




    Chaos of diversity and Indianness




    When India became free in 1947, Winston Churchill, an India-hater if ever there was, predicted that it would not survive for long. He made some of the most outrageous remarks about its ability to stay united, but united India has remained in the last sixty years and is now on its way to become a power in its own right. It is Britain which is slowly sinking. Nothing can stop India from rising to its true stature as a civilised nation. That said, a word of caution is in order.


    Has India really gotten over its past failings? Has it successfully met the challenges posed by internal subversion, misgovernance tribal revolt, poverty, Left wing extremism such as Naxalism, insurgency in the north-east and demands for autonomy, not to speak of demographic pressure on land, water and other natural resources, linguistic chauvinism and marginalisation of aspiring communities? They are not just premeditated phrases intended to raise fear and despair. The Red Corridor from the Himalayas to coastal Kerala is for real. The taking over of some 126 districts by Naxalite forces is for real, too. Millions are leaving their villages for jobs in cities and urban India. Eighty lakh (eight million) people have reportedly quit farming between 1991 and 2001. Per capita availability of food grain has been falling. Regionalism seems to be growing and Bihari peasants seeking livelihood in Assam, Jammu & Kashmir and Maharashtra are being driven out. Are those signs of things to come? Is India’s internal security in danger both from natural and man-made forces? What are the threates to India’s security, stability and consequent unity? Has anyone given any thought to it? Yes, some one has.


    And that is B G Verghese and his latest work: Rage, Reconciliation and Security must be prescribed reading to all those concerned with the future of India. Verghese does not duck issues. He faced them fair and square. The research that he has done is enormous and commands ungrudging respect and attention. No book in recent times has mapped the Indian political, socio-economic and ethnic landscape with such thoroughness and finesses as this one.


    Verghese is indeed very conscious of India’s “social democracy deficit” and what Naipaul was pleased to call “ a million mutinies”. They make one feel uncomfortable. Can India face all these problems which Verghese has recounted with considerable thoroughness, and come out a winner? Will the north-east states—the seven sisters—finally accept that their prosperity and progress rests in what Verghese calls “Participative development within a framework of imaginative cooperative federalism” and not in military confrontation? Verghese thinks positively. He is full aware, as the chapter on Communist terrorism in the Red Corridor shows, of the problems facing the country’s tribal areas and the vicious manner in which they are exploited by the CPI-ML and other Left-wing parties.


    The Maoists have never believed in parliamentary democracy and the Indian Constitution on which it is founded, and have opted for annihilative violence. This, and the inevitable rise of the Salwa Judum, is discussed with deserving thoroughness. The Home Ministry has traced the rising graph of Naxalite incidents from 2002 to 2005; the number of incidents has risen to 1,595 and 516 civilians, 153 policemen and 223 Naxals have been killed. Parts of 76 districts in twelve states or 509 out of 12,746 police stations in the country were affected. The Naxal influence by 2008 has supposedly spread to 126 districts. That is ominous.


    Verghese speaks about Naxalite coffers overflowing, and their income from levies rising to Rs 150 crore per annum in Jharkhand with a corpus of Rs 700 crore in Chattisgarh. Isn’t that a matter to be worried about? Marxists or Maoists are only one part of the security problem. Regionalism is on the increase. Kannadigas in Bangalore, as Shiv Sena in Mumbai seem obsessed by localism. The ULFA in Assam is targeting Hindi-speaking people who have migrated to Tinsukhia. The swamping of Tripura by Bengali speakers and of Sikkim by Nepalese have been causing disturbance. Dr Ambedkar in his Constitution Assembly speech had spoken of ‘fraternity’. We see anything by that in today’s India. It is always “we” and the “other”. Verghese reminds us that it has almost become a reflect in India to proclaim unity in diversity, as a magic mantra. The slogan is used as a mask to shield against differences or divisiveness and hence instability. We have to turn our fears into faith, in ‘ourselves’ and ‘others’. We have especially to make efforts to bring in the 85 million odd tribals into our cultural mainstream instead of forgetting their very existence. We have to rescue them from their primitive, remote and isolated existence and make them part of our larger society, even while respecting their value systems. That is going to be a difficult task.


    Verghese is not a mere critic interested only in raising inconvenient questions. He has meaningful solutions to offer even if those in power may wish to dismiss him as a dreamer and an idealist. Verghese angues that there is no need to panic; that India’s unity is a fact, that the long night of separation of entities is ending, that while there is no ground for complacency, there is every reason for hope. That the Indian of today is far more united, democratically cohesive and stable than, for example, the India of 1947, 1952, 1964, 1975, 1984 or 1990. Regional parties are no threat to the unity of India, considering that while they may act locally, they will think nationally. One only hopes that Verghese’s idealism is not misplaced. But his book dismisses fears even while telling the story as it is.

  3. VISOKA dd: Srila Prabhupada said that the Joan of Arc story is Bhagavatam, because it was about God empowering a person to do extraordinary achievements.

    Lord Krishna empowered Joan of Arc to inspire her countrymen to repel the English Crown, who at that time was pillaging and raping France.

    So, similarly, we can say that the short book,

    Gopal Jui, is also Bhagavatam, because it is all about the pastimes of Krishna in His deity form of Lord Gopal, and how He interacted with the Giri family for 250 years.




    It reads just like other transcendental stories we hear or read in the Caitanya-caritamrta and Srimad Bhagavatam.

    If a devotee reads it with an attitude of fault-finding, then we are sure that Lord Krishna will fortify his doubt, and he will not get the full benefit of the book. But those who read with an open heart, they will see that this book, like the example of Joan of Arc, is Bhagavatam, just like Caitanya-caritamrta and other Vaisnava literatures.

  4. Chinese reactors for Pakistan result of US-India N-deal

    By Khalid Hasan



    WASHINGTON: Congressman Edward J Markey, a Democrat from Massachusetts who has been a strong opponent of the Indo-US nuclear co-operation agreement, has called China’s decision to build two nuclear reactors in Pakistan a direct consequence of the controversial deal signed between Washington and New Delhi.

    In a statement, Markey said, “In a last-minute effort to post accomplishments in the waning days of his administration, President Bush pushed for an unwise nuclear agreement with India, undoing decades of vital arms control policy. Today’s announcement of new nuclear reactors in Pakistan to be built with China’s help will ensure that this failed administration will indeed leave behind a distinct legacy, though not the kind that arms control experts and historians will judge favourably. The Bush administration told the world that the US-India nuclear deal was unique, but just as many experts warned all along, Pakistan and China clearly have a different idea. By destroying the nuclear rules for India, President Bush has weakened the rules for everyone else. Pakistan and China will be the first, but almost certainly not the last, to take advantage of this perilously weakened system.”

  5. Islamic banking escapes fallout



    Strait Times – October 20, 2008



    ISLAMIC banking has largely escaped the fallout from the global financial crisis, thanks to rules that forbid the sort of risky business that is felling mainstream institutions.


    But experts say that because of its heavy reliance on property investments and private equity, the booming 1.0 trillion dollar global industry could be hit if the turmoil worsens and real assets start to crumble.


    'In the current financial turmoil, it is interesting to note that Islamic financing may have prevented a majority of the mess created by the conventional banking and financial institutions,' Kuwait Finance House said in a report.


    'The outlook for Islamic financing is bright and will likely take the lead in terms of providing funding for major projects as the conventional banking system reevaluates its business model.'


    The rules of Islamic banking and finance - which incorporate principles of sharia or Islamic law - read like a how-to guide on avoiding the kind of disaster that is currently gripping world markets.


    Islamic law prohibits the payment and collection of interest, which is seen as a form of gambling, so highly complex instruments such as derivatives and other creative accounting practices are banned.


    Transactions must be backed by real assets - not shady repackaged subprime mortgages - and because risk is shared between the bank and the depositor there is an incentive for the institutions to ensure the deal is sound.


    Investors have a right to know how their funds are being used, and the sector is overseen by dedicated supervisory boards as well as the usual national regulatory authorities.


    'Islamic banking has, thus far, remained positive, despite the current challenging global financial environment,' said Mr Zeti Akhtar Aziz, the central bank governor of Malaysia, which is Southeast Asia's leader in Islamic banking.


    Mr Zeti said this month that because of the slowing global economy, plans for Islamic 'sukuk' bonds had been postponed or scrapped by companies including Kuwait's Abyaar Real Estate Development and Malaysia's Perisai Petroleum.


    And Ms Jennifer Chang, a partner at Pricewaterhouse Coopers in the Malaysian capital Kuala Lumpur, said that given the extent of the global crisis, Islamic banks may suffer damage despite their strong position.


    'Islamic banks, especially in the Middle East, got heavily into private equity and real estate investments, and a lot of loans may be backed by properties. So if the property market goes down, there will be an impact,' she said.


    'If a borrower is not able to pay then the bank will foreclose and the question is - can you sell the property in the market and at what value? These are issues which all banks can face.'


    There have been calls for the conventional banking industry to take a leaf out of the book of Islamic finance, which also shuns investments in gaming, alcohol and pornography in favour of ethical investments.


    Influential Sunni cleric Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi earlier this month called on Muslims to take advantage of the turmoil to build an economic system compatible with Islamic principles.


    'The collapse of the capitalist system based on usury and paper and not on goods traded on the market is proof that it is in crisis and shows that Islamic economic philosophy is holding up,' said the Egyptian-born, Qatar-based cleric.


    In recent years the sector has broken out of its niche and been embraced by mainstream banks. As well as basic bank deposits and investment accounts, it has expanded into areas including equity funds, bonds and Islamic hedge funds.

    Mr Abhishek Kumar, a senior research analyst at Financial Insights, a company under market research and analysis firm International Data Corp (IDC), said recent events may further boost the sector.


    'More and more institutions will be interested in providing Islamic services to diversify their risk portfolio,' he said, while warning that in the current financial storm there were no absolutely safe harbours.


    'We're not really sure what the real extent of the impact is, and whether we've passed the worst of it or not, But the extent is not going to be as bad as in the mainstream sector,' he said.



    And very often this is precisely who gets approved by the GBC. Are you shocked that a kanistha guru falls down? I'm not.



    Agreed, with this system it can happen that they nominate kanistha-adikaris to sit on the vyasasana of the Brahma-Madhva-Gaudiya Sampradaya.

    And calling such gurus, approved.


    Somehow people are not properly informed in toto about this situation. They demand so much from disciples, but why don't they write a resolution, which says, our approved gurus might not be able to stay in this position as spiritual master, but might eventually leave or even fall down?


    If people read this and still take initiation then it would be fair in case such a guru falls down. Otherwise, the very word spiritual master, simply says, this person has mastered spiritual disciplines up to the point of being a fully self-realized personality, everything what you associate with the term "master". Clear case of delusion, deception and misleading.


    Just like you get a medicine, the law says that on the information and direction for use there has to be also a clear description about the side effects of this medicine. This is legitimate that people are not only informed one sided but what can happen as a secondary effect.


    What presently is done is that people are being told, "our spiritual masters are approved". Why they are afraid to say, they might be kanisthas, quit office, fall down, become suspended, excommunicated, etc etc.


    Why aren't people who are born at the same time and place as

    Bill Gates rich like him?



    Like I said, it rather looks like he is chosen for propaganda purpose to play the frontman and inventor of Microsoft, but in fact it is an efficient network which by combined effort achieved this global popularity. Of course there must be always a mastermind, boss. If in case of Microsoft Bill Gates is actually the one who makes all the important decisions and actually can be called the boss of Microsoft is very doubtful. Looks rather Bill Gates is something like an advertising vehicle, a legend.


    Dear Astrologers,


    What combination of planets has made Bill Gates so very rich?


    In the second house of Leo Bill has a Malefic Jupiter, still he has immense wealth, how can that be explained astrologically?


    Moreover I understand it's Venus which has set him on the path of extreme wealth, but Venus is in 4th house and is hemmed in Sun and Saturn, then how it got related to wealth when it is in house of Family.


    Birth Details :

    Birth 10/28/1955 (Oct 28, 1955)

    Birth Time: 22:00 (10:00 PM) PST

    Birth Place: Seattle, WA

    Latitude / Longitude: 47 N 36 / 122 W 20






    Some sources say he was born 21:15 pm, so it is not sure if there's anything correct.


    What could be also an option is that he isn't what is always spread, a lone warrior having become extremely successful but rather the opposite, part of a huge network. In fact fully depending upon this functioning network so much so, that without the help of that network he would never have reached that success. The success of Microsoft made possible by a combined effort of an efficient network and not through the ideas of an individual, Bill Gates.


    Nowadays they often stage for propaganda purpose such stories of an individual becoming a superstar from nothing. Take Harry Potter frontwoman Joanne K. Rowling, now labeled as richest woman of UK. Meanwhile it became known that she had a whole industry working for the publication of Harry Potter from the very beginning. And her positioned as mastermind and genious of the Harry Potter story just for pushing the Harry Potter saga.


    Bill Gates horoscope with TOB, 22:00 pm, so many planets in Scorpio clearly indicate that he's an expert in dealing with a network.





    especially Ramai Swami who is often very aloof and subtly impersonal.



    What to except if persons like Ramai Swami demand to be worshiped as good as God, saksad dhari?


    If he says on one side, I'm God's mouthpiece, everything I say, is exactly what God is saying, you have to worship me exactly like you would worship God, and on the other side people say, he is "often very aloof and subtly impersonal", then there must be something terribly wrong and he has to be told to step down from his absolutism of demanding to be worshiped as good as God.


    Some 90% of sannyasis approved by Prabhupada fell down. Proof positive that approval is no guarantee of success. When he approved them, were they proper (bona fide) sannyasis? When they fell down, did it not create confusion among the devotees?


    Srila Prabhupada had in mind a guru approval system as well - you pass the Bhaktivedanta level exam and you can start initiating your own disciples. That was his plan. He certainly approved before his passing several persons as initiating gurus - most of them fell down. Again, proof positive that approval is no guarantee of success.


    So somehow Srila Prabhupada's system was all perfect, and the GBC system is all wrong?? That is as bogus as it gets...


    The list of our deviants is very long and Harikesa's name is on it too - I just listed some of the more abhorrent ones.

    To compare a simple renunciate sannyasi, ashram of vedic society with parampara guru, spiritual master of the most important sampradaya, full-fledged diksa-guru? Isn't this like comparing two totally different terms? To say that when sannyasis fall down therefore gurus might possibly also fall down, just doesn't makes sense - clearly shows how people live in a total illusion, lost touch with reality.


    It's like comparing gold and iron, irrelevant analogy. But that's where we're presently heading to drag down the position of a parampara-guru to something very ordinary and people taxing their brain all day, what the heck do I have to worship a guru?


    ISKCON gurus even thinking that the pope also considers himself as representative of God, another illusion, this is wrong.


    The pope considers himself as officiating priest and Jesus as representative of God. How someone can be so stupid to say that the pope considers himself as Jesus?


    Prabhupada never spoke of something like, "a diksa-guru approval system", this can be indeed called, as bogus as it gets..


    Some of the best preachers I've heard from ISKCON are indian and some of the worst have been white bodied or european bodied - whatever the correct term is..

    In saying that, outside of ISKCON temples in India hearing an Indian preach within an ISKCON temple is a rarity I've found- but when they do speak I've found their lectures to be quite good. Most of the preachers in ISCKON centres I've heard have been white inexperienced male brahmacaris. But there have been some really good speakers too. Seeing as how the majority of the speakers are white as opposed to Indian, couldn't you say that the white bodied preachers are more inexperienced as they're greater in number.. at least in ISKCON?

    I guess that is my own personal reasoning as the few ISKCON Indians i've heard have been quite good. But out of a large number of white ISKCON males who preach that i've heard, many of them have been quite bad.


    Anyhow, seems like a silly article to me - very controversial though. I've heard heaps of amazing indian preachers, but they weren't part of ISKCON movement. Maybe it's just the indians within ISKCON that are actually bad?


    On a final note though - I quite like the Indian preachers from ISKCON mumbai.

    Preaching basically means not to eradicate but to dovetail. I saw many Indians who just don't know anything about Western history, so how someone possibly can dovetail anything if he doesn't know interrelations?


    Prabhupada always studied all this, like he knew about Sigmund Freud; Thomas of Aquin; Jean-Paul Sartre; Carl Gustav Jung; Friedrich Nietzsche; Socrates,; Plato; Pythagora; Newton; Aristotle; Descartes; Leibniz; Spinoza; Einstein; Heisenberg, et. ect.


    Modern Indians say these are all mlecchas, to be rejected. Might be true, all mlecchas but this is not preaching. Preaching also means to go to Universities. How someone can preach at Western Universities by telling, your Western civilization is all bogus - everything has to be eradicated?


    But this is basically how Indians preach, to indoctrinate instead of dovetailing. Therefore you find nobody adopting the chanting of the Holy Name when Indians preach, at least that's what's happening here since 20 years and like Theist is saying, preaching is annoyance. Reason is, people are confused about the meaning of preaching.


    It is not to eradicate but to dovetail what is already there. But if you don't know what is already there or even reject what is already there then you are not a preacher.


    Better then you say you're an uttama-adikari and that you don't need to preach because you see all living entities as eternal parts of Krsna.


    But we understand from Srila Prabhupada that just in order to preach, an uttama adhikari will act on the madhyama platform.


    Since we are in the line of Lord Caitanya's Sankirtan movement what does nothing else but to distribute and to preach, someone who claims that he doesn't preach because he's an uttama adikari should be considered as not in the line of the yuga-avatar's Sankirtan movement.


    How important preaching is can be studied how rarely Krsna appears in this world.


    October 7, 1968

    Seattle, Washington

    Letter to Tosana Krishna


    Regarding your question about this planet and Krishna's coming here, you may note that Krishna comes within this universe once in one day of Brahma. Duration of Brahma's day is very very long, it is stated in the Bhagavad-gita--432 crores of years( 4,320,000 x 1000) forms the duration of 12 hours of Brahma's day. And similarly, there are 12 hours of night, so after 864 crores of years, Krishna comes in this universe, and whenever He comes, He of course, appears on this planet, that is the fortune of the people of this planet. We should know very clearly that Krishna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead.


    He is neither Indian nor American, as much as the sun is neither Indian nor American. The original name of this planet is called Bharatavarsa, and before that it was known as Ilavrtavarsa. Now since the day of Emperor Bharata, this planet is know as Bharatavarsa, but in course of time, the human race divided, therefore we find so many other names. But the original name of this planet is Bharatavarsa, and in the Vedic literature, it is stated that anyone who takes birth on this planet, they are very fortunate. Because it is the special planet where Krishna descends when He comes.


    "No reasonable attempt is ever made to discuss deviations, such as the 2/3rd majority voting system that stamps a person as a maha-bhagavat within ISKCON". Kurma (the liar)



    No such thing... nobody is saying that people approved by GBC to take disciples are maha-bhagavats.


    Lie #1: "All gurus are maha-bhagavats"

    Lie #2: "GBC is rubber stamping bogus gurus"

    Lie #3: "GBC is rubber stamping fake maha bhagavats"


    Clowns like him give our movement a bad name, just like the Bhavanandas, Kirtanannandas, Hansaduttas of the past.

    What you actually mean by approved? Can an "approved guru" for example fall down? And leave his disciples in great confusion?

    Approved - and what happens if a guru is not approved?

    Can he still be a bona fide guru?

    For example a not "approved guru" does great preaching work and opens lots of temples and makes many people to chant the holy name, is he still "not approved"?

    Just trying to find out what this "approved" actually means?



    Clowns like him give our movement a bad name, just like the Bhavanandas, Kirtanannandas, Hansaduttas of the past.


    Do you mean to say that so many others who deviated, like Harikes, did not give our movement a bad name?

  13. An ISKCON guru wants to meet the pope.

    He says, not to follow Prabhupada's example to preach to the pope, but to ask him, "how does it feel to be God's representative?".

    Guess what the pope says to this curious spiritual master, right,


    "I'm not God's representative, only Lord Jesus is God's representative, I'm just an officiating priest."


    My Meetings with the Pope


    dot.gifby His Divine Grace Sacinandan Swami


    For a long time I wondered how a person would feel when placed in a role that grants him supreme authority over the minds and lives of others—especially when that person is expected to represent the supreme Lord. My meeting with Pope John Paul II answered my question.

    In 1968 Srila Prabhupada asked Pope Paul VI if they could meet to discuss how to help people achieve love of God “as the prime perfection of life.” Srila Prabhupada had already accurately observed that consciousness of God was in decline among people, so he wrote to the Pope, “This tendency is very much deteriorating, and because Your Holiness is the head of a great religious sect I think we should meet together and chalk out a program for cooperation.”

    Unfortunately, the two never met.

    Srila Prabhupada made another attempt to meet Pope Paul VI, in 1976. Srila Prabhupada must have heard that the Pope was open to receiving religious leaders from all faiths. But Prabhupada was not interested in an official talk; he wanted a serious discussion. On July 14, 1976, he wrote to the devotees who were organizing the meeting, “If it is simply a courtesy visit, then what is the use? Religion is now being taken as a formality. People generally have no real conception of God. Ours is a tangible connection with God. We know who is God and how to serve Him.”

    Again, Srila Prabhupada and the Pope did not meet.

    A Chance to Answer My Question

    Like Srila Prabhupada I was eager to meet the Pope, but for a different reason. I am an insignificant person who would never dare compare myself with Srila Prabhupada or his spiritual genius, so naturally my motive in wanting to meet the Pope was fairly modest: I wanted to hear how he felt about being a representative of God. Does he sometimes feel burdened by his position? An authentic representative stands for—and is, in a sense—identical to that which he represents. If I purchase an airline ticket from an agent authorized by an airline, the airline must honor the ticket. Similarly, the representative of God is identical to God because he is God’s authorized agent; his words carry God’s power.

    But how does he feel playing this role? That was my question.

    Somehow I managed to have two surprisingly intimate meetings with Pope John Paul II when I went to Hungary in the early 1990s. Please allow me to describe them as accurately as I can.

    In the early 1990s I went to Budapest when about fifty enthusiastic devotees invited me to go on harinam with them. Without mentioning why, they informed me that the city would be full of people that particular afternoon. I remember that it was autumn and the leaves had already begun to turn color. They hung like so many artistic flags—especially the leaves on the huge chestnut trees so common in Budapest. As we danced happily down an alley flanked by chestnut trees, we suddenly came upon a large gathering. Our kirtan party became more exuberant, and it seemed that there were no limits to our bliss as we absorbed ourselves in relishing the divine names. It also seemed that there were no limits to where we could go in the city.

    As I was dancing I noticed a large, well-dressed man, smiling in his black suit and priest’s collar, joyfully motioning us out of the alley and closer to a nearby building. We accepted his invitation, and the crowd dutifully parted for us. Before we knew it we were before the Pope, who was dressed in white. He had come out of the building to see our harinam. It seemed that he had asked his Hungarian hosts to arrange for us to meet him.

    Have you ever participating in a blissful harinam? I mean, have you ever chanted with a group of enthusiastic devotees and felt you were riding a transcendental train and racing through the countryside until the tracks rose up into the sky? That was exactly how I felt that day. I couldn’t seem to step out of the kirtan and stop the train.

    Still, there was the Pope and I still had my question for him. I formulated the question in the language of the heart—a language communicated through the eyes.

    Glances exchanged between spiritual people can be as telling as glances exchanged between lovers. Yes, I still remember the Pope’s answer.

    Sacinandana Swami: How does it feel to be the representative of God on earth?

    The Pope (scrutinizing me to determine whether he could confide in me, then hesitatingly): I am only a servant—a worker in God’s mountain garden.

    Sacinandana Swami (fully energized by the chanting): Yes, we are to see ourselves as humble instruments, but how do you carry such a burden? Is it sometimes too heavy? I mean, especially when you serve in such a huge religious organization as the Catholic Church with all its politics?

    Pope (his expression tender): It is difficult. Our organization is huge. There are so many interests, and they often conflict with purity and spirituality. But this is not really your business. Just chant, chant, chant the names of the Lord. That will change the face of the world. Chant and pray. I also believe in that.

    After this message the Pope gave me a friendly wave. It seemed to me that he had a tear in his eye. But I saw him brace himself, turn around, and enter yet another courtesy meeting with the authorities of his Church in Budapest.

    I was touched by his human warmth and by the deep spirituality that came through his eyes. But since the meeting was over I directed the kirtan locomotive away from his building and back down the alley with the chestnut trees.

    When I returned to the temple I asked the devotees to inquire whether there was any chance I could meet the Pope more privately. I wanted to humbly ask him the same question to be sure I had understood his answer properly. The devotees smiled at my naivete. Meetings with the Pope, they said, have to be arranged at least a year ahead of time. And even if we had arranged the meeting in advance, it seemed unlikely the Pope would have enough time for an actual discussion.

    Still, I wanted to meet him again to have our exchange confirmed. My chance came the very next day when we were again out on harinam. This time we had to cross the road on which the Pope would drive to bless the people of Budapest. Our party stopped far down the large street where few people had gathered.

    But he did not come. I had almost given up hope of seeing him when five Mercedes limousines in quick succession, each full of armed men, came into sight. These cars were followed by a van sporting several gunmen hanging off the sides like ripe grapes, all of them scanning the area for possible assassins. And then came the Popemobile—the Pope’s bullet-proof limousine—which allows the Pope to sit or stand and wave at the people. I thought the Pope looked like a doll in a glass box in that car. It was clear his duty was to simply be seen and to bless.

    When we saw him coming, we intensified our kirtan. Amazingly, as the cavalcade approached, the Pope ordered his driver to slow down. There was no crowd where we were chanting, but the car drove extremely slowly and again the Pope looked into my eyes. He clearly recognized me from the previous day, probably because of my garland, and again he spoke to me through his warm eyes: “It is not easy to carry this burden.” Then he motioned to the gunmen riding on all the cars. They looked so out of place with their dark Matrix sunglasses and machine guns. The Pope seemed to say, “I feel extremely insignificant and unworthy, yet God’s work must go on. I have to make so many compromises with Church authorities and the world’s political leaders—toomany compromises. But you can simply chant, help others, preach, and pray. I am trying to do the same in my way.”

    A Critical Investigation of My Meetings

    A critic would probably doubt the reality of these meetings. Should I expect others to accept that my talks with the Pope were real? Perhaps I only imagined his answers.

    I do not think it is possible to say whether these meetings were real or not. Personal impressions are subjective and rarely stand the test of laboratory objectivity. But is the laboratory the only way to verify truth?

    For me these meetings were very real, and now when I think of Pope John Paul II, I remember him as I saw him in Budapest and take inspiration from the exchanges I had with him. Wherever he has now gone, I wish him well and thank him for his work and the inspiration he gave me.

    I would like to end this article with a statement by Bhaktivinoda Thakura that I know the Pope would love:

    O my mind, why are you envious of those who follow a different process of worship? There are different persons in different countries. Someone worships dressed in a loincloth, and someone worships while stooping. Someone worships Brahman with his eyes closed. Someone worships while sitting in a yogic posture while some are absorbed in sankirtan. But everyone worships Him, Krishna, the abode of wealth. Therefore in the mood of brotherhood, everyone should live in full cooperation. Always execute devotional service to Lord Hari in this life or in death. (Prema Pradipa, Fourth Ray)

    Dealing with the Responsibility of Being a Guru

    In his purport to Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.13.48, Srila Prabhupada writes that a representative of God should cooperate with the Lord:

    "[One] should try to cooperate with the Lord in His outward activities for correcting the fallen souls. By His order only, one should become a spiritual master and cooperate with the Lord. One should not become a spiritual master for one’s personal benefit, for some material gain, or as an avenue of business or occupation for earning livelihood. Bona fide spiritual masters who look unto the Supreme Lord to cooperate with Him are actually qualitatively one with the Lord."

    Some of us have been commissioned to act as gurus. While in this position, we receive honor and respect. Reflecting on my meeting with the Pope provided me a welcome opportunity to think about how I deal with the authority that has been conferred on me. If I am honest, I will understand that this respect provides only an opportunity. That is, I should not think I am a sannyasi, a guru, and that I have become great. Rather, I do not deserve the respect I have been offered because I am not qualified. Still, my spiritual master has given me this opportunity for service, so I must become qualified and fulfill the responsibilities of the position.

    Isn’t spiritual life about being given opportunities to rise above our current state? The moment that we think we are very spiritual and qualified, we have become victims of false pride. False pride ruins everything. Better to consider ourselves recipients of service opportunities and to pray for constant protection and guidance. Only then will it be possible to serve properly. By the mercy of guru and Krishna a blind man can see the stars twinkling in the sky, a lame man can cross mountains, and a fool can become an eloquent speaker who lovingly helps others.

  14. Finally people wake up, "that a human fabrication lacks the power to establish a lasting order-Vedas."

    Non-Vaishnavas explaing the Vaishnavas their own scripture - no conditioned soul can sit on the vyasasana.

    Will the Vaishnava institutions accept it?



    « No need to have a blind faith when you can add beauty to your faith with eyes of research


    • the original Vedas were not man’s fabrication

    • a human fabrication lacks the power to establish a lasting order-Vedas

    • we do not find any mention of stone worship in the Vedas

    • Vedic teaching is full of the mention of the worship of fire` air` water` the moon` the sun` and so on

    • What justification can there be for the Holy Qur’an to be made the target of such brutal attacks?



    Promised Messiah 1835-1908 says:

    However, in accordance with what we are taught by God, we believe that the original Vedas were not man’s fabrication. A human fabrication lacks the power to establish a lasting order.

    Although we do not find any mention of stone worship in the Vedas, without a doubt, Vedic teaching is full of the mention of the worship of fire, air, water, the moon, the sun, and so on. There is no verse which prohibits the worship of these objects. Who is to say that the older sects of Hindus are false and only the new sect of Aryas is the true one? People who, by referring to the Vedas, worship these objects, are armed with the powerful argument that there is clear mention of

    such worship and nowhere is there any prohibition.

    To say that these are the names of God, is a claim which has not as yet been clearly settled. Had it been settled, what reason could there have been for the scholarly pundits in Banares and other cities to have rejected the beliefs of the Aryas? Despite efforts over the past thirty to thirty-five years, very few Hindus have accepted the Arya faith and in comparison with the Sanatan faith and other Hindu sects, the followers of the Arya faith number so few that they are insignificant, nor do they have any influence on the remaining Hindu sects. Similarly, the teachings of nyog, which is attributed to the Vedas, is abhorrent to human dignity and the human sense of honour. As I have already stated, we cannot accept that it is a genuine Vedic teaching. In fact, our well-meaning intentions make us strongly inclined to believe that such teachings must have been introduced later from sensual motives.

    Since thousands of years have passed since the original compilation of Vedas it is possible that in different times some scribes added to or subtracted from it. For us it is proof enough that the Arya faith has had millions upon millions of followers for thousands of years who have held it to be the word of God. It is not possible that the work of an imposter could enjoy such honour.

    So when we, despite all these obstacles, purely out of fear of God, accept the Vedas to be divine revelation in its origin and assume all the false teachings to be the work of scribes, what justification can there be for the Holy Qur’an to be made the target of such brutal attacks? It is full of injunctions from cover to cover speaking only of the worship of one God. Nowhere does it require man to worship the sun, the moon etc. In fact there are clear statements to the contrary.



    Paarsurrey says:

    Everybody is welcome to comment on the above passage peacefully and with rational arguments from one’s own revealed book; even those who differ with me are also welcome here.


    I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

  15. Sri Jagannath Temple - A Study of its Cosmic Symbolism


    posted 20 October 2008 by Sunil Kumar Patnaik


    The temple is a sacred place, a place for worship, a tirtha, a meeting of divine and earthly life and a community center. Temple means body or embodiment. Temples enable devotee to sacred and blissful experience that the yogi has attained thorough rigorous and painstaking sadhans. These experiences are often displayed on the temple walls. The idea of temple originated centuries ago in the universal ancient conception of god in human form. Such, form required a habitation; a shelter and this need resulted in a structural shrine. It is often believed that the temple form is derived from the "vedic" alter the earliest known sacred structure (vedi), which had the square as its essential form. Its origin goes back to the pre-Christian era, and its evolution into a monument of the great architectural merit is marked by conscious efforts on the part several ruling dynasties from the 4th to 17th centuries A.D. Religion in India, has been a powerful ideological space for worship of the divine, served as super ordinate institution of social organisation.




    In the medieval periods of Indian history, the role of the temple as the institutional focus of development is understood by the temples social and economic out reach as a land owner, organizer of rural and urban activities, provider of educational and medical help, and above all, as the center of: cultural activities, such as the arts, paintings and sculpture, apart from architecture, music and dance and more significantly as symbol of political power. It can well be glimpsed through the temple towns of India. The culture that revolved the temples can be felt even today in temple cities like Banaras, Ujain, Kanchipuram, Tanjore, Madurai, Dwaraka, Tirupati, Rameswaram, or Puri, etc. Here the God is chalachala, the rituals, festivals, are living today. The culture that once developed with the community such as rituals and festivals and the idea of pilgrims has thus, created network of temple-centers and sacred geography, continue to emphasize the integrative role of the temple in the sub continent. Again the temple in particular symbolizes as an object of devotion like an image. Hence, the temple is visualized as human body. Accordingly various parts of the temple are termed after the names of various limbs of human body with architectural connotations. The Hindu temple is also considered as the image of Mahapurusa. The medieval architectural texts like the Agni Purana and the Isanasivagarudeva Paddhati and others elaborate this symbolism in a realistic manner. In this way the entire temple becomes the manifested form of divinity, containing all levels of existences, all substances, tattva and bhuttas from the earth to ether and its structure gains the absolute supreme changeless essence. In India the temple as cosmic symbolism can be best seen from the royal temples of famous Brahadisvara temple at Tanjore and Jagannath temple at Puri. The Brihadisvara temple at Thanjavur (Tanjore) was completed in 1010 A.D. by Rajaraja I of Chola dynasty. This temple for next 1000 years was the cradle of Bharatnatyam through the successive dynasties. This temple again marked a watershed in the history of art and architecture of India. Like other monuments of 'Political architecture' in India, this temple symbolized the new royal power of its founder. The extensive donative inscriptions at the walls of the temple at Tanjore reveal an even more explicit political function of this temple. Hundreds of Brahmins and temple servants were brought to Tanjore, among them 400 dancing girls, about 200 dancing masters, musicians, drummers, goldsmiths etc. Some of these servants had to be maintained by regular duties in form of rice sent from their own villages. For other servants and the maintenance of the Brahmins, villages were donated to the temple all over the empire, even in Sri Lanka. Rajaraja and several members of his family furthermore donated immense treasure of gold and jewels to the temple, which at once made the temple one of the richest in India. It was during 11th-12th century A.D. that the temple town Puri might have assumed the greatest prominence under the dynastic rule of the imperial Gangas. .The present magnificent temple of Purusottama-Jagannath was constructed during this period. Several copper plate inscriptions of this period credit "Gangesvara" as the builder of the temple and this "Gangesvara" has rightly been identified with Anantavarmana Chodaganga Deva (1078- 1147 A.D.). lt is known from the inscriptions that Chodaganga might have invited some selected Brahmana Pandits or Vaisnavas, belonged to Kanchi and settled near Sri Purusottama Kshetra for propagation of Dvaitya philosophy .It is also known from inscriptions that towards 11.5 A.D. several Pandits, Brahmanas and Sadhus (sages) did settle in different parts of the empire. It is also known that king Chodaganga Deva patronized Vaisnavism under the influence of the great Vaisnava saint Ramanuja (1056-1136 A.D.) who advocated the Visistadaitya philosophy of Vedanta. It is also believed that Ramanuja might have visited Puri during the time of Chodaganga and was closely associated with the rituals of the temple. For the next 800 years this temple of Purusottarna-Jagannath is the center of art, cult and culture of Orissa.1n 1230 A.D. the Ganga King Anangabhima ritually dedicated his kingdom to the God Purusottama- Jagannath and acknowledged the divinity of Puri both as the sole state deity of Orissa and as his divine over Lord. Thus like that of Chola king Rajaraja, King Chodaganga Deva and later Anangabhima Deva of Ganga dynasty had made all possible efforts to make Purusottama- Jagannath as state deity and sovereign Lord. Accordingly the temple was certainly built for the Lord Vishnu as the iconographical feature denote. Of course, there are layers of cultural assimilations and synthesis.

    Sri Jagannath Temple at Puri is a matured Kalingan style, consisting of four structures called (i) Vimana (Sanctum-Santorum) (ii) Jagamohana or Mukhasala (the porch) (iii) the Natamandira (dancing hall) (iv) Bhogamandapa (the hall of offering), built in a row in one axil alignment facing east. The main temple as discussed above based on Vastu Purusa mandala is of the Pancharatha type having a curvilinear tower rising above all other monuments. It is evident that the temple is based on prescribed architectural design Sri Bachha Khandasala. This is one of the thirty six different examples prescribed for Rekha temple in Vastusastra meant for pancharatha type. Vastu sastra texts, conventionally attributed to the divine architect of the universe, Visvakarman, but composed at various points of time from 5th to 17th centuries, represent a growing tradition. Sri Jagannath temple referred as Prasada in the inscriptions. The temple is variously known in Sanskrit as the prasada, vimana, devagriha, devalaya etc. Prasada and Vimana are the most commonly used terms to refer to the main and integral part of the Hindu temple. Prasada, the other name of the main building, is synonymous with Vimana. According to the Silparatna (a Vastu Sastra text), "Prasada please by their beauty, the minds of Gods and Men." The main shrine (Vimana) symbolizes by means of its architectures, the universe, its manifestation and integration. It incorporate in its structure all the images. This is true in every respect in the architecture of Sri Jagannath temple as the temple has vertical divisions i.e. the pitha (pedestal), the bada (wall),the gandi (body) and the mastaka (the head). Each component signifies the divine aspect of celestial world. The pitha (pedestal) on which the temple stands signifies a square base. Based on the square, the structure of the temple also rises from the square Vastupurusamandala. The pitha on which the Sri Jagannath Temple stands commences from the existing plinth of 5'.2" in height. But the major portion of the pedestal is buried. The square is arch type, and the pattern of order in the Indian tradition, as laid down in the Brahat Samhita. Based on the square, the structure of the temple arises in the mid-world (antariksha) of air. The square as the fundamental figure of vedic sacrificial symbolism and temple architecture lends itself to many variations and still retains its symbolism. Above the pedesta1, the original temple structure stands with Pabhaga. The Pabhaga again has panchanga divisions of Orissan temple style like khura, kumbha, pata, kani and vasanta in ascending order. All these components have decorated with rich carvings like vanalata, scroll motifs, procession of various animals mostly war animals, procession of foot soldiers, etc. in the horizontal surface of Pata is carved with Giri- Govardhanadhari Krishna playing with Gopis, Dhenukasuravadha, proceeding towards Mathura on chariot etc. Above the Pabhaga, the next division is Tala-Jangha (lower jangha) having miniature temple replicas with Khakara-Mundis in the Kanika and raha and anuraha pagas. The front phase of these miniature Khakaramundi niches of Kanika paga are depicted with astadikapala or guardian deities in their respective directions. Again the miniature Khakharamundi shrines (niches) of anu- rahapaga depicts the King's court, priests giving sermons to the devotees, teachers (acharya) teaching their disciples. The two sides of each miniature shrine exhibits the image of Vishnu, Shrikrishna, and Radha, with the hoard of cows, or playing with veerna etc. The corner space in between the two khakaramundi shrines within the Tala-Jhanga portion is occupied by the giant figures of Gaja Simha, Gaja vidal trampling over 'apsamarapurusa' or a demon. These are typical Orissan art motifs all whom depict fertility and celestial world. The bandhana consists of three moldings connected at places by vertical bands decorated with standing figures of kanyas (maidens representing celestial beauties). The upper Jhangha has pidha-mundis (miniature temple of pidha-order), which contains deities including avataras of Vishnu. In the south-east corner, Varaha and Narasimha are found intact. In the south-west corner Balarama, north-west corner Kalki and Buddha are found in tact. These icons show the perfect shape and size with serenity in their faces and represent the mature iconographic features of Vaishnava cult. The recesses in between the two pagaes of upper Jhanga is occupied by life-size sculptures of maidens and surasundaris (kanyas) in different actions representing female power and piousness. Orissan architectural text Silpaprakas has shown sixteen postures for there maidens (kanyas). The baranda over the upper jhanga is made or ten curved moldings, which are almost, equal size. On the front side of each rahapaga above the baranda level contains a small niche, inside it a beautiful figure of Vishnu is exhibited and above that the chaitya window motif with two purusa figures (demons) on either side having beaded boarders, popularly known as "Bhoo motif' of Orissan art is carved. Further, above the projecting Gaja-Simha motifs are found in all cardinal directions. In the Gandi level, bhumi-amalas form offsets partially running all around the temple surface, decorated with creepers and floral designs. The niches provided on three cardinal directions below the baranda level contain life size images of Varaha, Narasimha and Trivikrama-the parsadevatas. The most remarkable feature of Sri Jagannath Temple is that on the both sides of each parsvadevata, shrines, in the outer wall figures of Vishnu, four on either side are carved with depicting twenty four forms of Vishnu. These twenty four forms manifestations are alike in their iconographic features. They are all standing figures with no band in the body possessing four arms and adorned with Kirita Mukuta (crown) and other usual ornaments. The difference between any two of there images has to be made out by the way in which the Sankha (conch), the Chakra (wheel) the Gada (mice/club) and the Padma (lotus) are found distributed among their four hands. "Rupamandana" furnishes the twenty-four names of Vishnu and the corresponding arrangements of the four ayudhas in the four hands in each case. These twenty four forms of Vishnu which have been listed in the Silpasastras are found nowhere in any temple sculpture except in this Sri Jagannath Temple. The next division gandi or body of the temple proper has ten bhumis or storeys. In architectural features and decorative details, the bada shows unmistakable affinity with those of Lingaraja Temple. But here in Jagannath Temple we find advanced stage of development in the architectural style.


    Why guru worship?


    So called gurus say that one should worship them, why? if you say something against them you are an envious demon a rascal!


    why one should worship the guru if he is not god just his representative (so called)?


    Good point, these pseudo gurus have to demand of being worshiped. A genuine guru performs such wonderful activities that we develop natural admiration to such a guru. In other words, he performs such amazing activities that you feel bad not worshiping him.


    Pseudo gurus don't reach the hearts of conditioned souls, so nobody feels spiritually attracted to follow such a guru. In fact they have to fool the innocent with material opulence, stylish outfit, deep voice etc. and even remind them again and again to worship them because people in general also don't understand why to worship such a guru.


    Sucandra, these are miy same suspicions,

    "...why not look for a reasonable motive where possibly the western cash flow was redirected?


    USA, European Union, Russia, Australia, South America, huge parts of Asia, all are facing a ...crisis.


    ... The cash flow is syphoned off to another location and the bankers explaining at tv, we lost it."



    Remember, Industrial War machines have always enhanced the economy.


    The 1929 Depression has always been remembered as a mass "run-on-the-bank" event.


    So I speculate that the present collapse similarly has been created by a "run-on-the-bank" --and such a thing has been done in a concerted effort to harm the western banking system by 'yet un-named parties' --before axis powers begin mobilisation.


    Thus, there are many reasons to diplomatically name 'no names' lest the civilian populations react in ways that inhibit bonefide covert intelligence gathering.


    This time, if my posting is cryptic, then that's ok.



    PS: Did you know Sivananda back in the day?--[Do you know where his son Syamakunda is? I want to say hello to Syamakunda]

    Have you seen Karaja, lately?

    Yes I know Sivananda, he did so much and at the end was forced to leave. At one point they didn't gave him an adequate service and when struggling to sell books turned him into a laughing stock, very offensive what they did to him. Syamakunda, no don't know his kids, also dont know Karaja.


    There seems to be nothing new in history. In Genesis 47, Joseph, second in command to Egypt's Pharaoh, warned of a coming famine, and prepared stock-piles of grain to aid the people through the crisis. When the famine hit the land, the people came to Joseph to buy food stock. A simple transaction was made; the citizens used the national currency to purchase grain.


    In verses 14 and 15 we find an unusual development. After the grain was purchased, Joseph intentionally holds the money back, keeping it from being re-circulated into the local economy. The result is predictably catastrophic for the people: Economic crisis.


    According to the King James Version, "the money failed" (vs.15), and in the New International Version it says that the "money is used up." Egypt experienced intentional, government-sponsored deflation in the midst of a natural calamity. The money collapsed.


    Needing to eat, what did the citizens do? They brought Joseph their livestock in exchange for grain (vs.16-17). As an agrarian society, livestock represented the industrial basis of the people. Hence, placing this power in the hands of the government, the people's commercial activity was effectively abolished.


    In relating this series of events to others, some have asked; "Why didn't the people just eat the animals instead of trading them for grain?"


    Refrigeration didn't exist. And while the people could have dried some of the meat for long-term use, grain would have been the most valuable and stable food source during a drought. Now the people had neither money nor livestock; and a year later they were out of food.




    Returning to Joseph, who obviously was in charge of the storehouses, the people begged their leader to take their land and themselves in trade for food (vs.18-19). Property was therefore consolidated under the state, and the citizens literally became slaves in their own country (vs.20-21). In the King James Version the language goes even further: Joseph depopulates the rural areas and moves the people into the cities.


    This is a masterful population control strategy. Once the wealth of the nation had been consolidated under the Pharaoh's banner via Joseph's actions - monetary wealth, the industrial base, land and productivity, and the people as economic assets - then Joseph instituted a new farming and taxation system (vs.20-24). How did the people respond? They gladly relinquished control of their wealth, property, and themselves (gave up their freedom) for the promise of state-dictated security.


    Keep in mind; all of this started through a debasing of the currency system. The manipulation of money is, arguably, the most potent method - outside of war - used to rearrange the fabric of society.


    Am I suggesting that our current crisis will be used as leverage to re-structure our Western world? The odds are in favor of it. Consider what the father of modern economics, John Maynard Keynes, had to say in 1919.


    There is no subtler, no surer means of overturning the existing basis of society than to debauch the currency." - John Maynard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, (1919), p.236.


    Keynes economic model is what we have been using since the end of World War II. Roughly speaking, it's the idea that governments can stimulate the economy through interest rate management - the heart of credit and debt - taxation programs, and other state-instituted incentive programs. Although the above quote was aimed primarily at inflationary actions, the same conclusion could be made regarding deflationary leveraging.


    In sum, when alien bankers control the purse strings of the State, inevitably the State becomes synonymous with these bankers. The State is "public" in name only. This is the true face of Communism.


    As we slide into a recession or even a depression, keep your eye on the big picture. Their goal is to "absorb the world's wealth" and to control every aspect of our lives.


    Why? They need to protect their fraudulent monopoly on the credit of the world's governments, worth literally trillions. They started the two world wars so global governance i.e. the League of Nations, United Nations would bring "a better world." They started this financial crisis for the same spurious reasons.


    Don't get caught up in the noise. Advocate the renunciation of the portion of the national debt owed to the central bankers. They created the money out of thin air. We create it out of work. Oppose the loss of national sovereignty and the reorganization of society. They are being introduced under the smokescreen of this boom-bust ruse which is as old as Joseph.

  18. Sun 19 Oct 2008

    The vedic meaning of Gravity


    http://mimishandshuna.com/jhuki/vedic astrology/the-vedic-meaning-of-gravity/


    Jai Shri Krishna


    Very often we are instructed by scriptures, saints and family members that we must love God. They tell us that God should be the object of our love. However, we cannot force ourselves to love God,can we? Love for God must develop naturally within our hearts and it must be spontaneous. Let us look at scientific phenomena to help us understand this better.


    Isaac Newton described the law of gravity in scientific terms, but gravity has been defined differently by our Rishis. The scriptures say that gravity is applied when a small object is attracted to a larger object from which it is derive d. As the small object is derived from the larger object, it has the same characteristics

    the larger object, but on a smaller scale. Therefore,when a rock is thrown into the air, it returns to earth because it has emerged from, and is a part of, the earth. Similarly a flame always burns upwards, because it is derived from the sun and therefore has the same characteristics as the sun.


    The larger object is known as the ‘anshi’ and the smaller object is called the ‘ansh’. The ocean is the anshi and the drops of water are the ansh. When it rains, the drops of water fall and finally flow into the ocean because of the attraction between the ansh and the anshi. This attraction=2 0between ansh and anshi is described in our scriptures as ¡bhakti¢.


    Though we may not realize it, we are on a natural journey towards loving God. Many people spend their lives searching for truth, for knowledge, for happiness. These qualities of truth, knowledge and happiness are associated with God. In the scriptures God is described as ¡sat-chit-ananda¢ , truth-knowledge- happiness. We have a natural love for truth, knowledge and happiness, and therefore strive to achieve these. This is nothing but bhakti for God.

    God is the anshi and the individual soul is the ansh. Our natural tendency is to return to God, where we came from. We always strive for the best things in life. This is because in essence, we are a part of the Supreme God and therefore it is in our nature to want the best.


    When realized masters see people performing bad deeds, they understand that these people have forgotten their true nature. Hence, they do not get angry, but they bless these people with the hope that they will understand and realise their true nature.

    May we also realise our true nature and become one with Him.

    Dheeraj Khosla


    Whatever happened to Prabhupada's Farms?





    Varaha das



    Prabhupada warned what was coming<hr size="2" width="40%">excerpt from conversation on train to Allahabad, January 11, 1977Hari bol. I just read this. It's more prophecy from Srila Prabhupada about today's current economic meltdown situation.


    PRABHUPADA: Organize this farm project. Farm. [background talking]



    HARI-SAURI: He’s just saying that in the West one requires a great deal of capital. To start a farm, to get the land, you need a lot of money because land is very expensive. And also we have to use modern farming techniques because we have so few men to run the farms.



    PRABHUPADA: No, you show example. People will do automatically. When the people find it is very nice, they will take.



    HARI-SAURI: Should we try to make an effort to have our householders go and live on the farms, a special effort? If it’s ready to do that?



    PRABHUPADA: Why householders? Everyone.


    RAMESVARA: In America there is a very big emphasis on getting people to join us by moving into our temples. The temple presidents are very eager to get as many people to move in as possible, but in the long run most people cannot come up to the standard.


    PRABHUPADA: Therefore I am... Farms.


    RAMESVARA: So they have to be encouraged to have a little bit of Krishna consciousness in their own home, make their home a temple.


    PRABHUPADA: No, let them go to the farm, New Vrindaban.


    RAMESVARA: Many people... Most people in the world, they are grihamedhis [householders], and they cannot give it up so easily.


    PRABHUPADA: “No, you remain... Come here with your wife, children. You remain grhamedhi.”


    JAGADISA: New Vrindaban is very austere. If we build little bungalows with modern convenience...


    PRABHUPADA: Oh, yes.


    JAGADISA: There has to be some modern convenience.


    PRABHUPADA: Oh, yes. Then we shall do that.


    RAMESVARA: But for many people who live in the cities, they have their jobs already. They don’t want to give it up. Say, in America, most people live in the cities, and they already have their job, and they are set in their ways.


    PRABHUPADA: But you said that there is unemployment also.


    RAMESVARA: To a certain extent. But there are still 250,000,000 people. So most of them...


    PRABHUPADA: So those who are unemployed, let them come to us. We shall give them employment.


    RAMESVARA: Yes. But for the mass population...


    PRABHUPADA: Well, gradually you will increase and...


    RAMESVARA: We have to give them something that they can do in their home.


    PRABHUPADA: Oh, yes.


    RAMESVARA: Because it is impractical to think that they will give up everything and move into the temple.


    PRABHUPADA: No, those who are unemployed, let them come. We shall give them employment.


    JAGADISA: On the farm.




    RAMESVARA: For those who are unemployed, that’s attractive.


    JAGADISA: But for those who are already employed...


    RAMESVARA: But most people have jobs.




    RAMESVARA: Many people already have their jobs and their families.


    PRABHUPADA: All right, let them not come, but those who are unemployed, let them come.


    RAMESVARA: But what...? For those people who already have their jobs, instead of...




    HARI-SAURI: So we can expect that material conditions are going to become very much worse than this.


    PRABHUPADA: They may come or not. We don’t care for it. Let us establish an ideal society.Now if this doesn't sound like what is going on in the world today, then I don't know what would. Tent cities springing up, food riots, trillions of dollars down the tubes, Marshall Law, corrupt government, people and businesses on the verge of bankruptcy, failing banks, etc, etc. Why wouldn't anyone want to live on a self-sufficent farm and say, "To hell with the world, screw'em. At least I can live here, eat good food, heat my house with fire wood, have my own water well, a cow for milk and manure, chanting Hare Krishna all day long!!!!!!"


    That is the life that Prabhupada was talking about, not this artifical life. "Man made the cities, and God made the country," as Prabhupada once said. If we have nowhere that this ideal life is being ACTUALLY LIVED (and the more examples the better), then people will think that we're just blowing more smoke (talking the talk but not walking the walk), just like the goddamn politicians that got them to this stage in the first place.


    The ISKCON farms that are around today—the ones that I'm familiar with anyway—aren't doing much, if anything. They don't produce much of anything—food, milk, cloth, housing or whatever else is needed on a "farm project". Here at New Talavan they have imported a bunch of guru groupies, and they don't do a damn thing really. To get them to cook an offering or do an arotike they have to get paid. Most of them have jobs in town and send the money back home to India, Mexico or wherever. They have their jobs, live in the temple shacks called houses (and pay rent!) watch TV, lust after women, cars and the latest cell phones, and they do ZERO farm work. The temple goes to town and buys its nesscessities just like the rest of the people in the US. What kind of example is that??? Will the downtrodden and distressed of the world want to come to a place like that?? Srila Prabhupada has 1300 acres of prime real estate here in South Mississippi, and the place is stuck in the biggest rut I've ever seen. But will they let the Prabhupadanugas live and serve there? HELL NO, at least not without signing a loyalty oath to the GBC of West Bengal. At least no one that I know of will do that, so the project just sits there, "devotees" come and go, the land is growing up in trees, vines, sticker bushes, and the infrastructure is falling apart at the seams. It's really sad to watch, but that is what the GBC has done to Prabhupada's temples and the future prototypes of the new human society, DVD/Srila Prabhupada's farms.


    So what are we to do??? The job is ours if we want it, but where to begin?



    Varaha das


    No I know why I do not go to church.


    Crisis may make 1929 look a 'walk in the park'



    Ambrose Evans-Pritchard – Telegraph.co.uk October 18, 2008


    Twenty billion dollars here, $20bn there, and a lush half-trillion from the European Central Bank at give-away rates for Christmas. Buckets of liquidity are being splashed over the North Atlantic banking system, so far with meagre or fleeting effects.


    As the credit paralysis stretches through its fifth month, a chorus of economists has begun to warn that the world's central banks are fighting the wrong war, and perhaps risk a policy error of epochal proportions.


    "Liquidity doesn't do anything in this situation," says Anna Schwartz, the doyenne of US monetarism and life-time student (with Milton Friedman) of the Great Depression.


    "It cannot deal with the underlying fear that lots of firms are going bankrupt. The banks and the hedge funds have not fully acknowledged who is in trouble. That is the critical issue," she adds.


    Lenders are hoarding the cash, shunning peers as if all were sub-prime lepers. Spreads on three-month Euribor and Libor - the interbank rates used to price contracts and Club Med mortgages - are stuck at 80 basis points even after the latest blitz. The monetary screw has tightened by default.


    York professor Peter Spencer, chief economist for the ITEM Club, says the global authorities have just weeks to get this right, or trigger disaster.


    "The central banks are rapidly losing control. By not cutting interest rates nearly far enough or fast enough, they are allowing the money markets to dictate policy. We are long past worrying about moral hazard," he says.


    "They still have another couple of months before this starts imploding. Things are very unstable and can move incredibly fast. I don't think the central banks are going to make a major policy error, but if they do, this could make 1929 look like a walk in the park," he adds.


    The Bank of England knows the risk. Markets director Paul Tucker says the crisis has moved beyond the collapse of mortgage securities, and is now eating into the bedrock of banking capital. "We must try to avoid the vicious circle in which tighter liquidity conditions, lower asset values, impaired capital resources, reduced credit supply, and slower aggregate demand feed back on each other," he says.


    New York's Federal Reserve chief Tim Geithner echoed the words, warning of an "adverse self-reinforcing dynamic", banker-speak for a downward spiral. The Fed has broken decades of practice by inviting all US depositary banks to its lending window, bringing dodgy mortgage securities as collateral.


    Quietly, insiders are perusing an obscure paper by Fed staffers David Small and Jim Clouse. It explores what can be done under the Federal Reserve Act when all else fails.


    Section 13 (3) allows the Fed to take emergency action when banks become "unwilling or very reluctant to provide credit". A vote by five governors can - in "exigent circumstances" - authorise the bank to lend money to anybody, and take upon itself the credit risk. This clause has not been evoked since the Slump.


    Yet still the central banks shrink from seriously grasping the rate-cut nettle. Understandably so. They are caught between the Scylla of the debt crunch and the Charybdis of inflation. It is not yet certain which is the more powerful force.


    America's headline CPI screamed to 4.3 per cent in November. This may be a rogue figure, the tail effects of an oil, commodity, and food price spike. If so, the Fed missed its chance months ago to prepare the markets for such a case. It is now stymied.


    This has eerie echoes of Japan in late-1990, when inflation rose to 4 per cent on a mini price-surge across Asia. As the Bank of Japan fretted about an inflation scare, the country's financial system tipped into the abyss.


    In theory, Japan had ample ammo to fight a bust. Interest rates were 6 per cent in February 1990. In reality, the country was engulfed by the tsunami of debt deflation quicker than the bank dared to cut rates. In the end, rates fell to zero. Still it was not enough.


    When a credit system implodes, it can feed on itself with lightning speed. Current rates in America (4.25 per cent), Britain (5.5 per cent), and the eurozone (4 per cent) have scope to fall a long way, but this may prove less of a panacea than often assumed. The risk is a Japanese denouement across the Anglo-Saxon world and half Europe.


    Bernard Connolly, global strategist at Banque AIG, said the Fed and allies had scripted a Greek tragedy by under-pricing credit long ago and seem paralysed as post-bubble chickens now come home to roost. "The central banks are trying to dissociate financial problems from the real economy. They are pushing the world nearer and nearer to the edge of depression. We hope they will eventually be dragged kicking and screaming to do enough, but time is running out," he said.


    Glance at the more or less healthy stock markets in New York, London, and Frankfurt, and you might never know that this debate is raging. Hopes that Middle Eastern and Asian wealth funds will plug every hole lifts spirits.


    Glance at the debt markets and you hear a different tale. Not a single junk bond has been issued in Europe since August. Every attempt failed.


    Europe's corporate bond issuance fell 66pc in the third quarter to $396bn (BIS data). Emerging market bonds plummeted 75pc.


    "The kind of upheaval observed in the international money markets over the past few months has never been witnessed in history," says Thomas Jordan, a Swiss central bank governor.


    "The sub-prime mortgage crisis hit a vital nerve of the international financial system," he says.


    The market for asset-backed commercial paper - where Europe's lenders from IKB to the German Doctors and Dentists borrowed through Irish-based "conduits" to play US housing debt - has shrunk for 18 weeks in a row. It has shed $404bn or 36pc. As lenders refuse to roll over credit, banks must take these wrecks back on their books. There lies the rub.


    Professor Spencer says capital ratios have fallen far below the 8 per cent minimum under Basel rules. "If they can't raise capital, they will have to shrink balance sheets," he said.


    Tim Congdon, a banking historian at the London School of Economics, said the rot had seeped through the foundations of British lending.


    Average equity capital has fallen to 3.2 per cent (nearer 2.5 per cent sans "goodwill"), compared with 5 per cent seven years ago. "How on earth did the Financial Services Authority let this happen?" he asks.


    Worse, changes pushed through by Gordon Brown in 1998 have caused the de facto cash and liquid assets ratio to collapse from post-war levels above 30 per cent to near zero. "Brown hadn't got a clue what he was doing," he says.


    The risk for Britain - as property buckles - is a twin banking and fiscal squeeze. The UK budget deficit is already 3 per cent of GDP at the peak of the economic cycle, shockingly out of line with its peers. America looks frugal by comparison.


    Maastricht rules may force the Government to raise taxes or slash spending into a recession. This way lies crucifixion. The UK current account deficit was 5.7 per cent of GDP in the second quarter, the highest in half a century. Gordon Brown has disarmed us on every front.


    In Europe, the ECB has its own distinct headache. Inflation is 3.1 per cent, the highest since monetary union. This is already enough to set off a political storm in Germany. A Dresdner poll found that 71 per cent of German women want the Deutschmark restored.


    With Brünhilde fuming about Brot prices, the ECB has to watch its step. Frankfurt cannot easily cut rates to cushion the blow as housing bubbles pop across southern Europe. It must resort to tricks instead. Hence the half trillion gush last week at rates of 70bp below Euribor, a camouflaged move to help Spain.


    The ECB's little secret is that it must never allow a Northern Rock failure in the eurozone because this would expose the reality that there is no EU treasury and no EU lender of last resort behind the system. Would German taxpayers foot the bill for a Spanish bail-out in the way that Kentish men and maids must foot the bill for Newcastle's Rock? Nobody knows. This is where eurozone solidarity stretches to snapping point. It is why the ECB has showered the system with liquidity from day one of this crisis.

    Citigroup, Merrill Lynch, UBS, HSBC and others have stepped forward to reveal their losses. At some point, enough of the dirty linen will be on the line to let markets discern the shape of the debacle. We are not there yet.


    Goldman Sachs caused shock last month when it predicted that total crunch losses would reach $500bn, leading to a $2 trillion contraction in lending as bank multiples kick into reverse. This already seems humdrum.




    Where will it end? A fresh study by Morgan Stanley warns that the big banks face a further $200bn of defaults in commercial property. On it goes.


    The International Monetary Fund still predicts blistering global growth of 5 per cent next year. If so, markets should roar back to life in January, as though the crunch were but a nightmare. There again, the credit soufflé may be hard to raise a second time



    Is it possible for any body to arrest the money flow or good deeds?One of my good friend suffering some problems of earning after all efforts,previously his business was very good but day by day its going worse.We friends suggest so many new contacts him and he used it but no improvement have been seen.He says in his family one lady goes to some Tantrik and she is so jealous by him and his family.She have done somthing wrong for him.

    It is possible by some one to arrest of in coming money?If yes than what is the remedy to overcome and protect by this type of threat?

    Please suggest,who have deep knowledge of this subject.



    It is only possible when his karma is also negative.

    He should simply remain undisturbed, go on without getting confused and things get normal soon.


    If the curse is based upon jealousy it will have no permanent effect but will turn against that person who made that curse.


    If it is his karma that his business cannot flourish he has to close his business and work under someone who is a successful business man.

  22. Looks like people feel helpless in their situation. They know there's something wrong, they analyze and analyze, but obviously without real knowledge from Bhagavad-gita they remain stuck.


    While You Were Sleeping and Dreaming it was Real.


    Friday, October 17




    Yesterday I saw an article in Newsweek that said that Christians in <st1:country-region st="on"><st1:place st="on">India</st1:place></st1:country-region> were being abused. It was the sort of dedicated disinfo that gets churned out by lying, agenda driven hacks who write what they get told to write since journalism got buried in an unmarked grave.

    I have friends in India who keep me abreast of what’s been going on there and from what I am told, the Christians are rapacious in their efforts to gain political power and access to the ‘goodies locker’ by any means necessary. They’d like nothing better than to eliminate the Hindu traditions and along with Islam they’ve got the Hindus in a pincher grip and the Hindus don’t like it; never mind that the pinchers want to eat each other alive as well. So what we really have is the Hindus reacting to Christian missionary, weasel actions which get reported as “those terrible things that are happening to our beloved Christians as they attempt to subdue one of the oldest cultures on Earth to their goddamned missionary ways.” Of course, they wouldn’t say it that way but I do.


    This same garbage is going on in <st1:country-region st="on"><st1:place st="on">Iraq</st1:place></st1:country-region> with the Franklin Graham, God's Fascist’s Brigades. It’s going on around the world where bloodthirsty, fundamentalist Christians and Muslims are dispensing their vicious coercions at point of a sword; the threat of an empty food bowl, the promise of an empty heaven or a burning Hell, anything to swell the numbers of those deceived into thinking God is some kind of vindictive swine just like them.


    These things go on while we are sleeping and dreaming that the world is only where we find ourselves and that people who pose as spiritual actually are spiritual. In this dreaming world, that blood-soaked coward, George W. Bush can be a Christian. In this sleeping world everything appears to be something other than what it is and people just eat up the lies because the truth puts them at odds with everyone they know.


    In this world you don’t hear that The Rothschild’s own Rio Tinto and you don’t hear that they are doing this to the Papuans. The interconnecting web of vampire bankers, Zionist and Christian psychopaths, as well as the suit and tie legion of foot-spiders with fountain pens, make the bloody web of the sleeping world tremble with the cries of those who have the misfortune of living somewhere that plunder is to be had.


    I watched the third debate yesterday and heard McCain and Obama talk about what they were going to do. I heard one of them talk about doing something about diabetes. This diabetes epidemic is the result of corporations flooding the fast food restaurants and supermarkets with soft drinks and sugar saturated crap that sleeping Schmoos pour down their unconscious gullets. How likely is it that either of these men will point out what those who are not asleep know to be true?


    I heard them talk about health care. Comprehensive health care is readily available in most ‘civilized’ countries. I pay about one hundred euro a month for mine here in <st1:place st="on">Europe</st1:place>. Amazing isn’t it? I don’t go to doctors but I have it and it’s got features you are paying ten times more for and possibly more than that. Why don’t you have comprehensive health care at an affordable price? You don’t have it because the corporations and consortiums that feed at this overflowing trough want to milk every bloody nickel from the scam. Even worse, they don’t know what they’re doing most of the time and their pharmaceuticals are often more dangerous than the condition they are treating. Even worse… these evil shits know exactly what excesses in the culture cause the maladies that they are incapable of treating and most likely own stock in the corporations that sell the poisons that create the diseases.


    Will McCain or Obama be able to do anything about the root causes of the problems that are created by the corporations that own them? Where does that leave you? Do you think it’s some kind of accident that the world is awash in massive, flesh containers who’ve worn a path in their carpet from the ice-box to the TV? “Wide-Load Jeans; when you’re packing a Whole Lotta Love!”


    They talked about education. The American education system is where it is on purpose. How are they going to fix something that is intended to be that way by the corporations and consortiums that own them? The whole, fucked up system is designed to be the way it is to reduce the target consumer to a mindless, porcine drone on a treadmill of consumption. It’s the <st1:street st="on"><st1:address st="on">American Way</st1:address></st1:street>.


    Yes, they eliminated the manufacturing industries from the American landscape to maximize profit but they also did it to make the military more attractive. The video game industry is part of the MIC. It’s a cradle to grave continuum. The destruction of the moral compass in the young is precisely for the reason of making moral relativism dovetail into whatever explanation is being presented by whatever corporations are profiting from the confusion. They’ve got whore outfits for pre-teens and they are on their way to the crib and… it’s all cool. It’s the <st1:street st="on"><st1:address st="on">American Way</st1:address></st1:street>. It’s our freedoms that they hate. What? These freedoms? Freedom isn’t license.


    You can’t fix something that is the way it is because of what it is. You can’t head for <st1:city st="on">Kansas City</st1:city> and wind up in <st1:city st="on">Boise</st1:city> if you are coming from <st1:city st="on"><st1:place st="on">Memphis</st1:place></st1:city>… unless you are really asleep at the wheel. You are where you are because things are what they are and this particular way of doing things eventually consumes everything and creates a Hell on Earth. First it does it in far locations and then it does it where you are. And that is why you’ve got no Posse Comitatus or Habeas Corpus but you do have a brigade of soldiers somewhere, waiting on something. This is why Bin Laden and Al Qaeda were created so that you would have something to be frightened of and need protecting from while your freedoms and rights were removed. But… you’re asleep. You’re dreaming.


    In England… where the world banking powers live… over the years… men like McCain and Obama and everyone else who got into the rackets made high sounding speeches while they declared war on China to force the Chinese government to let them addict their people to opium. They went into <st1:country-region st="on"><st1:place st="on">India</st1:place></st1:country-region> and enslaved and murdered and they gave magnificent speeches. They brutalized the Irish across the centuries and brought harm everywhere they went and they dressed nice and they looked sharp and they gave magnificent speeches. Every now and then they would create a new boogeyman and bleed their country white of young men about whom they would give magnificent speeches.


    In <st1:country-region st="on"><st1:place st="on">America</st1:place></st1:country-region> they wiped out the Native Americans and bought slaves from the Jewish slave traders who were good enough to keep records so we have their accounts today. They brutalized the Chinese and stuck the Japanese into camps. The Japanese left their lands and possessions with Richard Nixon’s Quakers in trust, to be returned later only they weren’t. <st1:place st="on">Pearl Harbor,</st1:place> like 9/11, was ‘arranged’. It’s about the money and those who control it and you think that Obama or McCain are going to fix something that is the way it is on purpose?


    I’m not sure you should wake up. If would be nice if you could just sleep forever and believe the lies. Unfortunately for you, the time has come when not waking up is no longer an option. There are solutions but they require the same hatchet and scalpel that these off-the-Wal-Mart shelves Ken dolls were talking about. These deluded robots are just as fast asleep as you are. Well… you’re not going to be able to go on sleeping much longer. What do you think the learning curve on the landscape will be when you do wake up… partially wake up? It’s hard to think on your feet when you are lying on your back.


    Yeah, everybody’s just trying to make a living buddy. There’s gold to be had if you can just do some thing about the Papuans or the Hindus or whoever is, wherever they are …and ‘in the way’ of progress and the big, bright, beautiful dreams of the American Way that is on it’s way out and soon to be located in some other theater of enterprise where the dream masters and slave masters set up shop.



    The one who sees the outside of the box or the one who understands what is within.




    This is not about realization but about the point that there is the concept of immortality of the soul as vedic principle.


    But there's no problem if you reject it - live and let live, you can believe what you like and what makes you feel good.


    In fact our whole city basically believes what you say, when death comes everything is finished.

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