muralidhar_das

You quote Narasingha Maharaja a bit, I've noticed. Why don't you write to him and ask him if he approves of the abusive things you say about Srila Govinda Dev Goswami Maharaj. I know what his answer will be. He is my personal friend.

Back in the USSR we write Math like this.

The Math is not a place of calculation. It is a place where people practice jnana-sunya bhakti.

Kshamabuddhi, Go to Haora station and ask people where to get a train to Navadvipa. I don't know where your train will take you, but I hope you enjoy the trip.

For anyone who would like to go there, the temple of Srila Sridhar Maharaj is Sri Chaitanya Saraswat Math, in Nabadwip. Not: Srila Sridhara Maharaja Not: Sri Caitanya Saraswata Matha Not: Navadvipa

Srila Sridhar Dev Goswami Maharaj: More than Rtvik. Whatever it may be, I am giving power. Just as "yauva-raja". When the King installs his son as King and retires himself, what will be the result? As Dasarath wanted to do with Ramchandra. The King gives all the authority of a king to the son and retires to go to the jungle although he is living with full power and glory.

For your information, it is Math, not Matha; and my Guru Maharaj's name is "Sridhar" not Sridhara. As far as authorization goes, I was personally authorized by Srila Sridhar Maharaj (for your information, we call him "Srila" not just Sridhara Maharaj), to edit and publish HIS lectures.

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How do you know that? Were you there? Oh, that's right, you never went there once, did you? Badrinarayan made up this story. He is in jail now in Canada and he will be there for a long, long time. But anyhow, you yourself have posted this statement just a few minutes ago: Are you having problems reading? Maybe you need glasses because you seem to see everything from a distorted perspective.

It seems to me that you are the only person who cannot read More than Rtvik. More than Rtvik. More than Rtvik. More than Rtvik. More than Rtvik. More than Rtvik. More than Rtvik. More than Rtvik. More than Rtvik. More than Rtvik. More than Rtvik. More than Rtvik. More than Rtvik. More than Rtvik. More than Rtvik. More than Rtvik. More than Rtvik. More than Rtvik. More than Rtvik. More than Rtvik. More than Rtvik. More than Rtvik. More than Rtvik. More than Rtvik. More than Rtvik.

Srila Sridhar Dev Goswami Maharaj: You all know from long ago I have chosen Sriman Bhakti Sundar Govinda Maharaj and I have given him sannyasa. All my Vaishnava Godbrothers are very affectionate towards him and it is also their desire to give him this position. I have previously given to him the charge of the Math and now I am giving him the full responsibility of giving Harinam, diksha, sannyasa, etc., as an Acharya of this Math on behalf of myself.

Anyone can say anything. But what did Srila Sridhar Maharaj say? I have DVD's of this event that I can send to anyone who wants to see the whole thing for themself. Everyone is free to follow their heart. But look at the politics of Iskcon and you will see the sort of chaos that can happen in a society of devotees where businessmen and spiritual novices are in control of temples and are giving orders to newcomers. In this Math and in any Math under this Math Srila Govinda Maharaj is the representative. If you don't agree to that, then leave. That is what Srila Sridhar Maharaj said. Many times.

Kshamabuddhi (Guruvani) never even met Srila Sridhar Maharaj. Moreover, his ritvik-fantasy, in which he declares that Srila Govinda Maharaj was only appointed as a ritvik not as Guru, is a fantasy that he only believes in. He is the only person in the world who believes that Srila Govinda Maharaj was appointed as a ritvik not as Guru.

Srila Sridhar Dev Goswami Maharaj: More than Rtvik. Whatever it may be, I am giving power. Just as "yauva-raja". When the King installs his son as King and retires himself, what will be the result? As Dasarath wanted to do with Ramchandra. The King gives all the authority of a king to the son and retires to go to the jungle although he is living with full power and glory. ... Srila Sridhar Dev Goswami Maharaj: For those that have got no sraddha, they may go away. They may not accept. I do not care. I don't accept them.

whatever... What you think or do has no importance for me or any sincere person. Sincere people will not be fooled by your demented ravings. ------------- Srila Sridhar Dev Goswami Maharaj: For those that have got no sraddha, they may go away. They may not accept. I do not care. I don't accept them. ---------------

You constantly abuse Srila Sridhar Maharaj's successor, who Guru Maharaj told his disciples to follow. In doing that, you cut yourself off from Srila Sridhar Maharaj Your decision ************** Dr Asthana: I am a little worried about Srila Govinda Maharaj's position. Srila Sridhar Dev Goswami Maharaj: I have given him, I have empowered him, to do all these things on my behlaf: Rtvik. I have appoited him to do all spiritual activity on my behalf. Dr Asthana: But this "Rtvik" word is misinterpreted by many people. Srila Sridhar Dev Goswami Maharaj: They may do so. Dr Asthana: Some do not consider him as a direct successor; they consider him only as a Rtvik. Srila Sridhar Dev Goswami Maharaj: More than Rtvik. Dr Asthana: Eh? Srila Sridhar Dev Goswami Maharaj: More than Rtvik. Whatever it may be, I am giving power. Just as "yauva-raja". When the King installs his son as King and retires himself, what will be the result? As Dasarath wanted to do with Ramchandra. The King gives all the authority of a king to the son and retires to go to the jungle although he is living with full power and glory. Dr Asthana: Many people I have talked to do not consider the Rtvik to be the direct Guru. They say the Rtvik is Rtvik. Srila Sridhar Dev Goswami Maharaj: Rtvik is Rtvik, but if such transfer of power is done then what harm? For those that have got no sraddha, they may go away. They may not accept. I do not care. I don't accept them. **************

I am (in)famous for the controversial things I have said. Not just on the internet but everywhere I go. In a Vaishnava society such as Sri Chaitanya Saraswat Math a person like me will never get given any "position" or importance. Still, I will always have a home there. Dogs like me and my best friends (aravinda also said he wants to be Gurudev's dog), we can freely wander in from the street whenever we want. We can go and lie down in the dust next to Haricharan Prabhu or Aranya Maharaj and they will smile at us. Haricharan will pat me on the head, just like he has done before now, and for me that is better than any other goal of life.

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Srila Bhakti Siddhanta Saraswati Thakura is not the creator of the concept of a siksa-guru-parampara. Even Sankaracharya's sampradaya is a siksa guru parampara, as is the parampara of Madvacarya. Someone with scanty knowledge of Gaudiya Vaishnava history, someone who had been infected by the philosophy of the jati-goswami followers, might think Saraswati Thakur was the origin. But this point of view is pure foolishness. In Chaitanya Charitamrta we find that Srila Krishnadasa Kaviraja Goswami lists Raghunatha dasa Goswami as a disciple of his siksa-guru Sri Svarupa Damodara. His siksa guru. The siksa guru connection is given precedence over the diksa line of succession going from Advaita Acharya to Yadunandana Acharya to Raghunanatha das. Moreover, Krishnadas Kaviraj always prays to Rupa-Raghunatha in CC, but never mentions the name of his diksa guru. Baladeva Vidyabusana also presented the Parampara of Sri Chaitanya as a siksa guru parampara: The fact is Padmanabha Tirtha, Nrihari Tirtha, Madhava Tirtha and Aksobhya Tirtha were all diksha (initiated) disciples of Madhva. They were not successive links in the diksha chain. Yet Baladeva Vidyabhushana states they were disciples of each other. These are all indisputable siksha links; Padmanabha gave siksa (instruction) to Nrihari, Nrihari instucted Madhava, etc. It is also a fact that in the Tattvavada Sampradaya (Madvacarya's sampradaya) they don't even get diksa at all in order to become members of the tradition. Their parampara is a siksa guru parampara and they do not chant the mantra that Madhavendra Puri gave to Ishwara Puri, Advaitacharya, Nityananda, Pundarika Vidyanihi (the Krishnaya govindaya gopijanaballabhaya mantra which is described in detail in the Gopala Tapani Upanishad). But Baladeva has said that our Gaudiya Sampradaya is connected to that sampradaya, even though Mahaprabhu himself when visiting the Tattvavadis at Udupi made the point that he was not in their Sampradaya. Historically there was a link to Madva, but in a spiritual sense Mahapabhu was not following Madva he was following the new revelation that came through Madhavendra Puri. In regard to Srila Bhaktivinode Thakur's parampara, my Guru Maharaj wrote:

Progress means elimination of lower things and acceptance of the higher truths http://scsmath.com/memories/07a/070303_Srilekha_GPurnima/070303-SrilkehaArticle-GPurnima.htm

What is the value of giving college degrees if people are learning wrong ideas. The official Iskcon teachings about Jiva Tattva, Guru Tattva and Nama-Tattva are different from what the Predecessor Acharyyas taught. Iskcon preachers tell people "you should desire to go back to Godhead". But the desire to attain the liberation of entering the abode of the Lord (salokya mukti) is a kind of anartha. Telling people to desire liberation is wrong. Iskcon says the desire for impersonal liberation is an anartha, but the Srimad Bhagavatam says that even the desire for salokya mukti is an anartha. Real devotees do not desire to go "Back to Godhead". If Krishna brings someone to Goloka where they can practice uninterrupted service free from the disturbances of this Mayik world the devotee will usually accept that. But the real devotees do not desire liberation of any type (saloka, sarupya, sayujya, etc). Bhaktivinode Thakura: Iskcon people think that if you chant sixteen rounds of Hare Krishna mantras every day you will go "back to godhead" when you die. I've heard the big swamis saying this. They say that if you chant japa by loudly repeating the name while marching up and down in the temple room, then by doing this you will be chanting purely and you will not be committing nama-aparadha. They fail to realize that until your heart is cleansed of all anarthas you cannot chant the Name even once, even if you mutter the shadow of the mantra for hundreds of lifetimes. Until you have a pure heart you cannot chant sixteen rounds. You cannot chant even one Nama. What happens when you chant the Nama one time with a pure heart? This is what Thakura Bhaktivinode taught. You need to be purified of all anarthas before you can enter the land of pure Bhakti. If you have the witches of bhukti and mukti in your heart then Bhakti-Devi will not come and sit on the throne of your heart. That is what the Goswamis taught. There are many other issues that come to my mind as well, but these will suffice. What is the use of getting a Bhaktibaibhava degree from some institution that doesn't know what real Bhakti is?

Bhaktivinode Thakur said Bipin Bihari Goswami was his Guru. That is the way things were. If you want to believe in something other than REALITY then you are deceiving yourself as well as the foolish people who cannot see that you are wrong.

In the Iskcon edition of CC I have it says And there is also this thing in BTG, March 1960 However Bhaktivinode Thakur says: Note the words "sri-guru-goswami-rupe". Guruvani is engaging in self-deceit and cheating-of-others when he continues asserting that Vipina-vihari was not the diksa guru of Bhaktivinode Thakur. <!-- BEGIN TEMPLATE: bbcode_quote -->

Prabhupada astakam, verse 1

Srila Govinda Maharaj said "If you are sincere you will not be cheated". If you get cheated, look into youself to see why you made the choice to follow a false guru.