Pankaja_Dasa

Look Ganeshji there is no point quoting so much since hardly any of the present day concocted intrepretations have any intelligence behind them. Even the most obvious aspect of God, is deninirated by so-called scholers. __ How can Brahman, which is eternal, assume form? __ Form and formlessness are eternally exsisting side-by-side. One did not and cannot come from the other. Eternal means Eternal. Since both are meant to be Eternal and unchangeable.

Your quoting Gita by an Impersonalist. I asked you a very simple and precise question, can you not use your commen sence? How can Brahman which is eternal assume forms?

Right, we must go to that person who has seen the Truth. He has realized it. Factually speaking even from an athiesitic point of view. If we come from Nature, nobody can deny a Person can realize 'something' without any 'bones or anything else.'.

Eternity No past/present/future. Science accepts in some way that's a fact, This means Energy is ever-exsistant. Everything is a transformation of energy. Eternal energy. By combination of checimals, life comes about. Then it is transformed into Energy. [Earth, water, fire etc]. If the Universe was created by a boom [explosion] create a small bang, and prove you can 'create'. Since we are all meant to be manifestations of the Original Energy [material] I am sure it is very possible for Scientists to do it. We can destroy with a bang, but creation? Impossible. So if you cannot create with an explotion? Then? Was everything already here? As if by Magix.! Did God create it? Oh No. no no no. We cannot see God, how can we accept this? How do we know God created it? What is your PROOF! Well what is YOUR Proof? Well er, we know that er, this and er. Well you cannot provide proof, so .. Okay so stop telling us it's a fact. But er urm well how do we know God did it? er. Excuse me Mr Dumbass, but can you prove any of your theories? NO we cannot. Its theories, not based on facts. We cannot really prove any of it. But you also cannot prove God exsists. SO there. So Mr Scientist what do you do now? Well we shall try to find the myseriries of the Universe. And see if we can find it. .. That would be God then? God? what hahaha, no such thing as God. We cannot see God. Round and round we go where it ends nobody knows...

Ganeshprasad How can Brahman which is eternal assume forms?

Animals. ! Dogs can't understand God. All they know is how to eat 'chusa' chicken. And ghost [cows I think]. Become like Chicken and flap about. They don't even know what qu'ran says! Ah HO!

This is from the Qu'ran the 3 main english Translations: 026.032 YUSUFALI: So (Moses) threw his rod, and behold, it was a serpent, plain (for all to see)! PICKTHAL: Then he flung down his staff and it became a serpent manifest, SHAKIR: So he cast down his rod, and lo! it was an obvious serpent, 026.033 YUSUFALI: And he drew out his hand, and behold, it was white to all beholders! PICKTHAL: And he drew forth his hand and lo! it was white to the beholders. SHAKIR: And he drew forth his hand, and lo! it appeared white to the onlookers. __ This is from the Chaitanya Charitamrta [www.vedabase.net]: Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu continued, “‘Whatever Vedic mantras describe the Absolute Truth impersonally only prove in the end that the Absolute Truth is a person. The Supreme Lord is understood in two features—impersonal and personal. If one considers the Supreme Personality of Godhead in both features, he can actually understand the Absolute Truth. He knows that the personal understanding is stronger because we see that everything is full of variety. No one can see anything that is not full of variety.’ CC: Madhya 6.142

I e-mailed Swamji. Reply was to read the revisions for 2nd Edition Bhagavad-gita As It Is. I guess I didn't make my point very clearly. I replied back to say the changes in Chaitanya Charitamrta, and that the style of Prabhupada writing was being washed away. etc. I don't know I doubt anything I saw will have any impact, since if somebody is adament to do something [like with me and the copyright issue with BBT -they gave it in the end!]. But I suggested that maybe we can have the Original Books in print at least like BG, SB [you can get] and CC.

Science philosophy is same as Buddists? --- The Buddhists maintain that annihilation, or dissolution, is the highest truth. If the creation eternally exists, there is no question of dissolution or annihilation. This argument is not very strong because by practical experience we see that material things have a beginning, a middle and an end. The ultimate aim of the Buddhist philosophy is to dissolve the body. This is proposed because the body has a beginning. Similarly, the entire cosmic manifestation is also a gigantic body, but if we accept the fact that it will always exist, there can be no question of annihilation. Therefore the attempt to annihilate everything in order to attain zero is an absurdity. CC:madhya.9.49 www.vedabase.net ___ Everything exsists eternally but temporary. As above. I am sure Science is missing a link somewhere, because it cannot explain what 'eternity is'.

If you have instructions from your Guru or Spiritual Master then even if you are away from Him and not in His phizical presence it is still the same. Because Guru is like Krsna He is Omnipresent. So says there is no need to worry or think Guru is not there. He can see exactly what your doing.

My devotee friend always tells me 'I am not this mind'. But am a Soul? Then I ask what kind of soul? He says I'm eternal servant of Krishna. Not my mind.

That e-mail works. I doubt anything I said will make any sence, I said Swamiji could write his own Books. I can see he has potency but Uttama-adikari? Prabhupada says in Preface to Bhagavad-gita As It Is: We hope, therefore, that people will derive the greatest benefit by studying Bhagavad-gita As It Is as we have presented it here, and if even one man becomes a pure devotee of the Lord we shall consider our attempt a success. __ People say that this means something else, Prabhupada was being humble. But when you actually hear about what it means to be pure UTTAMA, then nobody is qualified to change Prabhupada Books. .. except Prabhupada HIMSELF. Then you can present quotes where Prabhupada said it was okay to do it. And change and modify. Prabhupada said once in this life you can go back to Godhead. Did He means Goloka in the Spiritual Sky? Or Goloka in the material world to further our training!. Pure devotee is NOT SO CHEAP.

Yes ONLY Brahman, by the way do you know what Eternal means?

This is the 'title: Eggs 'fertilised' without sperm Dufus: The process, described in New Scientist, uses an enzyme found in sperm to prompt the egg to divide. Doh.

Are you Eternal? And Unchangeable?

Can you tell me the verses in which Qu'ran talks about the Personal aspect of God? For instance.. it says 'that God's hand'. How come your Scholers don't accept this? And what is the reason?

Yeah but don't say that to anybody. It's meant to be a secret. I see it as Philosophies. I found many 'chinks in the armour'.

The e-mail returns a mailer d. It's not working. I wrote an e-mail. But it didn't go through alas! Oh well nothing to do with me since 'I am not in Iskcon'.

One thing I saw on www.gitamrta.org is an article it says, how is the Sun giving the constant amount of light for so many years. It's temp remains constant. If it went above it's temp this planet would be burned to ashes. On this Planet it takes an enourmous amount of effort to power a City. The Sun is meant to be an object without anybody running it?

Could I have Jayadwaita Swami e-mail address?

Saivite goal is totally different to Vaishnava's, we want to serve God not become one with Him.

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The Goal of Saivites and Brahmavadis/Mayavadis is exactly the same..,to become one with Brahman. So how do you say they are different?

If you say you cannot do something, then better you do it first. If I am going to a journey and say I have already reached it, then that is true arrogance, but if when I get there I boast NO HARM!