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A baby boom could hit the US in nine months as Americans turn to "terror sex" to combat fears of war or further terrorist attacks, experts say.


Post-disaster sex, or "end-of-the-world sex", means a baby boom is likely in nine months' time, the Los Angeles Times reports.


Americans are turning to sex to soothe feelings of fear, vulnerability and sadness, the newspaper said.


University of Washington sociologist Pepper Schwartz said: "The act of sex is a very elemental, primal feeling of being alive and connected to somebody.


"Sex is part of a life force. When asked, 'How do you want to die?' a lot of people say, 'Making love or having an orgasm'. What they are saying is, 'I want to be most alive the moment before I am dead'."


She said there were parallels between soldiers marrying before heading off to war zones and said demographers should expect a hike in the birth rate.


One un-named New York record executive told the newspaper: "Everyone has been through a shared experience and people's defences are down.


"People are vulnerable and that can be really attractive. It's biology at work - gotta procreate if the world is coming to an end."


*US terror attacks story sent by Ananova

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When I read the article that you posted, the first thing that came to my mind was a lecture given by Srila Bhaktivedanta Narayana Maharaj during Nrsimha Chaturdasi, particularly the second half of that lecture, in which the desperation of the soul for sense gratification, even in dire times, is articulately described (although the purport is far from limited to this narrow description above, this is one of the themes it touches on).


(Nrsimha Chaturdasi, May 6th, 2001, Badger, California, USA, evening lecture):Tridandisvami Sri Srimad Bhaktivedanta Narayana Maharaja


Nrsimha Caturdasi

6 May 2001 (morning)

Badger, California.


Today is the appearance day of Lord Nrsimhadeva.

What class of person was Hiranyakasipu? Was he a theist or an atheist? He

was a theist. From sastra it appears that he believed in God, but he was

against Him, he wanted to kill Him, and he had no honor for any of His

devotees. He wanted to conquer Him and defeat Him ? because it was natural

for him. How was it natural? It was natural because he was Jaya or Vijaya,

the associate of Narayana.


Why did he fall down from Narayana-loka? Vaikuntha and Goloka are both

beyond the influence of Maya. They are beyond Viraja-nadi, the river that is

situated between the material and spiritual worlds. There is no chance of

falling down from there. Even so, we see that he fell down. Why?


[syamarani dasi]: Yudhisthira Maharaja asked Narada Muni, "You say that the

sages cursed him, but I don't believe that any associate of the Lord in

Vaikuntha could fall down. They all have spiritual bodies, not material

bodies, and matter can never touch them."


[srila Narayana Maharaja]: There was no possibility of a curse there, and

yet we see that he fell down. Why?


[syamarani dasi]: Srila Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura explains that Krsna's

iccha-sakti, desire potency, Yogamaya, was actually responsible for their

coming to this world, not Mahamaya. All the propensities that we have in

this world are present in their original, perfect form in the Lord Himself.

He also has vira-rasa, the chivalrous propencity. He likes to mock-fight,

just as boys like to mock-fight in this world. However, as everyone in

Vaikuntha worships Him in awe and reverence, who would fight with Him there?


Seeing the Lord's desire, and seeing the desire of Jaya and Vijaya to always

please Him, Yogamaya personally inspired them to become angry when the four

Kumaras tried to enter. In their travels the four Kumaras had come to

Vaikuntha, but the gatekeepers blocked their path. The four Kumaras

therefore told them, "Oh, you have a materialistic mentality, and you are

affected by the modes of nature. You are not qualified to be in Vaikuntha."

This was all by the arrangement of Yogamaya so that the Lord could come to

this world as Nrsimhadeva and fulfill His fighting propensity. He would

never fight with a demon or atheist. Only His devotee is qualified to fight

with Him, and therefore His devotee had to come to this world with Him to

fight with Him and fulfill that desire.


[srila Narayana Maharaja]: Very good, but some correction is needed. First

you should know the nature of bhakti. It is to always please and satisfy the

Lord ? nothing else. Jaya and Vijaya are eternally liberated. They saw that,

"There is something in my Prabhu's heart. He wants to taste and enjoy

vira-rasa." They knew this, and they started to worry, "How can we fulfill

His desire? We cannot fight in this body, but we want to satisfy Him." At

once Narayana knew, "They want to fulfill My desire!" He remembered Yogamaya

and told them, "Wait a little, and I will give you a good chance to fight

with Me and satisfy Me." By the influence of Yogamaya, the four Kumaras were

then attracted to come to Vaikuntha.


There is no possibility of being angry in Vaikuntha. That place is not like

the material world. Rather, it was by the influence of Yogamaya that Jaya

and Vijaya became angry and wanted to stop the four Kumaras from entering.

There was also no chance that Jaya and Vijaya could check them. No one can

stop anyone there. Therefore, it was done by Yogamaya.


Immediately Jaya and Vijaya challenged these four Kumaras, who had come

there naked. They said, "O, you must be properly dressed to go before our

Prabhu." Having been stopped, the four Kumaras became angry and cursed the



In the meantime, Narayana Himself came and told the Kumaras, "Please forgive

My two boys. They are always serving Me, so you should forgive them."


Then Narayana removed His Yogamaya. Now free from the influence of Yogamaya,

they began lamenting and weeping. They realized, "What have we done?! We

have made an offence!" Narayana assured them, "I have done this. I wanted to

play in the material world and to enjoy vira-rasa, and thus I am fulfilling

the desire of my two eternal servants. Now they will go to the material

world and there, in three births, they will satisfy My desire. I will taste

vira-rasa with them, because no one else is qualified to enjoy that rasa

with Me."


Jaya and Vijaya were not at all deviated from Vaikuntha. In one form they

were always in Vaikuntha, and in another form, as Hiranyakasipu and

Hiranyaksa, Ravana and Kumbhakarna, and Sisupala and Dantavakra, they came

to the material world in three births. Krsna killed them and, being thus

purified, they returned to Narayana-loka. No one can ever fall or deviate

from Goloka Vrndavana or from Narayana-loka. Citraketu Maharaja also was

cursed (by Parvati devi), and he took his next birth as the demon Vrtrasura,

but he was not actually a demon. Bharata Maharaja is another example. He had

attained bhava-bhakti, and from that platform no one can deviate. For siksa,

for teaching us, they have performed pastimes like these. We should try to

learn what they are trying to teach us, and we should never make offenses at

the lotus feet of any high-class devotees.


In this way, to teach us, Jaya and Vijaya were Hiranyakasipu and Hiranyaksa.

Hiranyakasipu had faith in God, but because He had killed his brother, he

was against Him and wanted to take revenge by killing Him. It was for this

reason that he was also against Prahlada Maharaja. He demanded, "Why are you

on the side of Visnu? I don't want that. I have given you birth, and I have

given you everything. I have supported and nourished you, and I am sending

you to school to become educated. Why you are on the side of that Visnu? I

don't like this at all. You are like the handle of an axe. Alone, the head

of the axe cannot do any thing. However, as soon as there is a handle, that

axe can cut down a tree. You are like that handle, and you are cutting me."


The story begins thus. In the council of Yudhisthira Maharaja, when a fire

sacrifice was being performed, Krsna took His cakra and cut off the head of

Sisupala. A light came from Sisupala's body and merged into the lotus feet

of Krsna. Yudhisthira Maharaja thought, "Oh, how wonderful this is! How did

he merge into Krsna? So many rsis are performing severe austerities, day and

night, not sleeping, standing on their toes, sometimes even standing upside

down on their thumbs, not taking any water, and not even breathing air.

Still, doing this for a very long time, they cannot attain liberation. But

in a moment Sisupala achieved this. How wonderful this is!"


Krsna is neutral. God is neutral to all. All are His parts and parcels. Then

why does He take the side of the demigods and become the enemy of the

demons? He helps the demigods and kills the demons. Why? For Him both are

the same. The answer to this question is that although Krsna is always

neutral. His specialty is that He is not impartial or neutral in regard to

His devotees. Where devotees are concerned, He cannot be neutral. For

general persons He is neutral, otherwise He would not be God.


God is love and love is God. Krsna is love. Where does love live? In the

abode of love. Who is the abode of love? The devotees. Therefore Krsna must

be partial to them.

Narada replied to Yudhisthira Maharaja's questions by narrating the history

of Hiranyakasipu and Prahlada Maharaja:


Hiranyakasipu sent Prahlada Maharaja went to school, and after four or five

months he returned home. After his mother decorated him, Hiranyakasipu came

and took him in his lap, smiling and caressing him. He said, "O my dear son,

what have you learned in school from your Gurudeva?" Prahlada replied

boldly. What did he reply?


[sripada Aranya Maharaja]: Prahlada Maharaja sat on the lap of his father,

and his father's heart was melting with parental affection with tears in his

eyes. He was so proud, thinking, "My son is so qualified."


[srila Narayana Maharaja]: This is a very interesting subject. You may read

Srimad Bhagavatam, but the deep meaning will not come to you. You cannot

read Srimad Bhagavatam on your own. Even if you are hearing from others, if

they are not high-class devotees they cannot give the meanings. Only Srila

Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura, Srila Jiva Gosvami, Srila Sanatana

Gosvamipada, and Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura can give the meanings. If anyone

is not in their line, they cannot give such meanings. We are speaking from

the commentaries of Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura, Jiva Gosvami, and

Sanatana Gosvami.


[sripada Aranya Maharaja]: His father wanted to know, "My dear son, what is

the best thing you have learned?" Prahlada Maharaja very politely, and

without any fear at all, replied:


tat sadhu manye 'sura-varya dehinam

sada samudvigna-dhiyam asad-grahat

hitvatma-patam grham andha-kupam

vanam gato yad dharim asrayeta

(Bhag. 7.5.5)


"O my dear father - asura-varya dehinam! O best among all of the demons!"


[srila Narayana Maharaja]: Hearing this, Hiranyakasipu became very happy! He

was thinking, "I am emperor of all the demons!" Demons are very proud that,

"We are demons" and the demigods are also thinking, "We are very proud that

we are demigods." They are also full of pride.


[sripada Aranya Maharaja]: Tat sadhu manye 'sura-varya dehinam. "O best of

the demons! In this world, those who have accepted this temporary body to be

the self and to be the source and basis of happiness, who accept this body

to be real, become constantly afflicted by one problem after another, one

anxiety after another, like endless waves in an ocean. They are always

embarrassed. The best thing that I have learned is that such persons have

fallen into a deep, dark well. Household life in which one identifies with

the body, considering one's family members, household goods, property and

wealth to be one's own, is like a deep, dark, dangerous well.

Hitvatma-patam. This path of life is a path that completely checks the

progress of the soul towards the goal of life ? the service of the Supreme

Personality of Godhead.

Therefore, the best thing I have learned is that such persons should get out

of that dark well. Vanam gato yad dharim asrayeta. They should go to the

forest, especially Vrndavana forest. This means they should go to that holy

place which is sacred because of the presence of pure devotees and, being in

good association, they should unconditionally take shelter and surrender at

the lotus feet of Hari, the Supreme Personality of Godhead.


Srila Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura explains, in his commentary of this

verse, the meaning of grham andha-kupam ? the dark well of this world: Once

upon a time a man was in the forest. He heard the sound of a tiger. Being

afraid, he tried to run away because there was a chance that the tiger would

eat him. He was looking here and there for some shelter, but he could not

find shelter anywhere. Finally, he came across a blind well. This was a well

that was no longer being used, and some grass and trees had grown over the

top. Taking the help of two branches of a tree, he lowered himself down into

the well, thinking, "The tiger cannot come down here to get me." As he was

going down, he saw that the bottom of the well was dry and there were many

snakes living there. They raised their hoods, hissing, and they were ready

to bite him.


Now he was really in a predicament, hanging from two branches, halfway down

a well. At the bottom, there are so many poisonous snakes waiting to bite

him, and at the top there is a ferocious tiger just waiting to eat him. At

that time he was suffering in great anxiety.


On the top of the well there were two rats - one black and one white, and

they were nibbling away at the very same branches onto which he was holding.

Now it was only a question of time. Either he had to climb out and be eaten

by the tiger, or he would have to go down and be bitten by the snakes. He

could not stay where he was for long, because the rats would gradually,

gradually, eat away the branches and he would fall down. Whatever he would

do, he would suffer and come to a very gruesome end.


At that time, when he was in this very precarious situation, he noticed a

honeycomb on the branch of the tree. Because the tree was shaking, some

honey was dripping, and it just happened to be dripping very close to his

face. Taking this golden opportunity, he stuck out his tongue and a drop of

honey came on the tip of his tongue. He took that honey into his mouth and

began to relish the flavor, thinking, "How sweet! How sweet!" And thus he

felt some happiness. This is the example of all the conditioned souls, like

you and me, here in this world. We are in a very dangerous situation.


[srila Narayana Maharaja]: Especially lusty people, those who are engaged in

sense gratification, are in this position. They are going to die at any

moment. There is no way for them to be saved from death. There is only one

person who can be saved, but we will tell you afterwards who that is.


[sripada Aranya Maharaja]: It seems that this person is now experiencing

some happiness. It seems that in this world there are so many people who are

well situated, who are content and satisfied with their situation. But what

is their happiness? It is just like the happiness of this man when he is

tasting a drop of honey. Why? All the components of this analogy represent

the conditions in our lives. The snakes are hissing, and they represent so

many problems. . .


[srila Narayana Maharaja]: These problems come one after another, like an

ocean of waves. We think, "Oh, this is the last problem. After that, we will

be happy." But then even bigger waves come. Those who are surfers know this

better than I do.


[sripada Aranya Maharaja]: This world is made of problems and nothing else.

There are only problems and problems, and yet the conditioned soul in this

world is very surprised when he meets a problem. He thinks, "Where did this

problem come from?" He later overcomes the problem with a great hope and

aspiration that, "When this problem is gone, all of my problems will be

gone." And then, what a surprise! Another problem comes.


[srila Narayana Maharaja]: Not only one. So many come.


[sripada Aranya Maharaja]: Not one at time, but five at a time, six at a

time, and these are like so many poisonous snakes in the bottom of the well.

At the top of the well there is a tiger. He represents death. Death is

waiting for everyone in this world. It must come and devour them and take

away everything.


[srila Narayana Maharaja]: There is no fixed time. It can come at any

moment. Death will not give even one minute's notice, allowing that I may

speak with others and then die." At once it will come!

What are the two trees?


[sripada Aranya Maharaja]: This person was hanging from two trees. These two

trees represent our karma, fruitive activities, good and bad, pious and

impious. We are living our life in the experience of the reactions of our

pious and impious activities. This is the duration of our life, and it is

being taken away moment by moment. Regarding the rats, the black rat

represents nighttime and the white rat means daytime. We are very happy when

another day comes and goes, but actually each day and night will never come

back. In this way, the duration of our life is being gnawed away.


[srila Narayana Maharaja]: All around are problems and dangers, and in the

midst of this one drop of honey comes. What is that one drop?


[sripada Aranya Maharaja]: Even though we are in this very dangerous

predicament, we may feel some happiness, and that is like the drop of honey.

This drop of honey represents the affection of our friends and family

members in this world. After suffering so much, being repeatedly abused and

treated badly in the course of doing one's work, a man returns to his home

and his wife meets him with very sweet words: "O honey, you're back. I have

been waiting to see you." He takes this honey. His children jump in his lap

and say, "O daddy, daddy, can you give us a hundred dollars?" In this way,

even though there is danger and suffering everywhere, when he takes this one

drop of honey in the form of the affection of so many people in this world

with whom he has a temporary relationship, the man feels, "My life is

successful." This is the purport of the verse spoken by Prahlada Maharaja.


[srila Narayana Maharaja]: We are all in this position. How can anyone be

happy in this situation?


Another example has been given, as a supplement. A deer was grazing in a

lush, green forest, and all of a sudden he saw that he was surrounded by so

many problems. On one side there was a hunter with two Alsatian dogs. On

another side there was a forest fire. On the third side there was a very

big and deep river, and on the fourth side was a big net. Seeing that he was

completely surrounded, the deer became very frightened and thought, "What

should I do?" At once, he closed his eyes and prayed, "O Krsna! I am Yours.

I am surrendering to you. Save me, save me!"


When the deer took shelter, what did Krsna do? A big gust of wind came with

many pebbles and dust which got into the eyes of that hunter as he was

drawing his bow. Taken by surprise and unable to see, he let loose an arrow

that pierced the eyes and mouths of the dogs, who were killed at once. It

began raining, thus completely extinguishing the fire, and the net got

caught in the wind and blew away. Three sides were now open, and the deer

jumped and ran away.


Therefore, if anyone is in that well and chanting, it may be that by the

mercy of Krsna a hunter will come and kill that tiger. He will lower a rope

into the well, saying, "Oh, you should take hold of this rope and come out."

He will save you. Krsna is so merciful.


We are surrounded by these death traps. Guru realizes this and he wants to

help us all. On one side there is death, on another side there are so many

problems, on a third side some madhu (honey) is dripping, and the rats are

gnawing at the branches. You are all in this situation, and you do not

understand this. Don't think that this is our first life, our first birth.

You have enjoyed so much sex life, and you are very lusty like pigs and

hogs. Day and night you are not resting. You are having sex and you are

creating so many children.


Previously, in past lives, all of you were even demigods. You have also come

in a human form before, but you lost that time. Again, after lakhs and lakhs

of births you are now here in good association, with a very good body. This

is likened to a strong boat with favorable winds. Krsna has arranged for you

to have such high-class association. Krsna has given all of you this

auspicious opportunity, and still you think, "I want a nice teen-aged girl,

one who is very beautiful. I want to marry and taste sense gratification."

Those who think in this way are foolish, mad persons. I cannot give any

appropriate name for them. Don't be angry with me for saying so, but they

are rascals ? worse than hogs or pigs. O my dear rascals, don't go there. At

once come out, and be with me. Come back to God, and back to home!


Even you old persons - why do you want to marry again? Perhaps you are very

lusty. My dear friends, don't be angry with me. I am your well-wisher, your

eternal well-wisher, so come and follow me. By the order of Srila

Bhaktivedanta Svami Maharaja, my Gurudeva, and my guru parampara, I have

come here to save you from this vast ocean of lust. Don't go there!

Otherwise, a big Mahabharata battle will come and you will be killed. Try to

realize this. Be free from all these worldly things, from the andha kupa

that has been described in Prahlada Caritra. Be very careful.

Gaura premanande


[Typist: Sudarsana Das Adhikari]

[Editor: Syamarani dasi]




[This message has been edited by Krsnacandra dasa (edited 10-01-2001).]

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Destination obvious,

When thinking of the womb for males at the time of death, our whole consciousness can then enter another body and take shelter in one more womb completely. For females they may feel somehow the strength of their male counterpart will allay their fears, but for how long? Only real faith in the most beautiful male and female will give us the protection from the jaws of death we really need.

Also I've been thinking recently, for those of us who are conditioned to swear when disaster happens in our life.What is our prospect if our last utterance in a car accident, is one of those four letter words. Other than Rama that is, not a very trannscendental destination, if the Lord claims "whatever one is thinking at the time of death we attain to that goal"

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Originally posted by Tarun:

If you read a few paragraphs above:

According to... I'm one of those worse than hogs & pigs.

I refuse to accept sannyAs.

I also refuse illicit sex.

Nowadays, thanks to internet, we're all equal, like it or not.

Rich, poor, strong, weak, dhirAdhira, all the same.

Anyone can do unlimited preaching worldwide sans ever jetting.

Even car use in bhakti/bhAva/prema is questionable.

Flying sannyAsis will realize this soon enough.

ZAstra wins once again. GirirAja-dharana ki jaya!

Flying SannyAsins..?


Do they use their dandas as the pagan wiccans on broomsticks?


Hey, which brings up Halloween...


Does anybody remember my postings on VNN about Tantric Goulish Goodies..?


Tarun..you may remember


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Jijajijaji: I vaguely recall. Run it by us again.

Terror sex for some requires single slot bedsheet buffer.

For others: "Fly that cockpit straight ahead...

Stick its nose all the way into... that building."

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If you read a few paragraphs above:

According to... I'm one of those worse than hogs & pigs.

I refuse to accept sannyAs.

I also refuse illicit sex.

Nowadays, thanks to internet, we're all equal, like it or not.

Rich, poor, strong, weak, dhirAdhira, all the same.

Anyone can do unlimited preaching worldwide sans ever jetting.

Even car use in bhakti/bhAva/prema is questionable.

Flying sannyAsis will realize this soon enough.

ZAstra wins once again. GirirAja-dharana ki jaya!

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Come 31 October, Beard + Turbin door to door just won't be the same.

Bin Laden Halloween costumes are being manufactued as we type.

This year they're a sure shoe-in for most popular/"numero uno" nationwide.


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Originally posted by Tarun:

Come 31 October, Beard + Turbin door to door just won't be the same.

Bin Laden Halloween costumes are being manufactued as we type.

This year they're a sure shoe-in for most popular/"numero uno" nationwide.


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