Was Karna the greatest archer?

ombakth · April 2, 2007

There were great brahmins like Lokmanya Tilak who fought for the upliftment of Dalits and other low caste people. But Chankaya was the follower of Ajivika form of Hinduism which is different than modern days Brahminism etc.. There were priest in all tribes that were present and those who came to Ancient India but they were not today's Brahmin sect. Some of these Priest shared higher status some of them did not. Many of them were ascetics like Sadhus and Rishis who belong to any caste not just today's brahmin.

It was Bashing of those Brahmins who still consider that they belong to higher caste and others belong to lower ranks and to those Brahmins who discriminated.

All those Brahmins who teach equality and consider all people equal to themselves are considered to be great and who fought for India and devlopment of Dharmic religion.

Like Mangal Pandey, Balgangadhar Tilak, Gopal Krishna Gokhale, C. Rajagopalachari, Swami Sahajanand Saraswati, Basawon Singh (Sinha), Yogendra Shukla, and Sheel Bhadra Yajee, to name just a few, were at the forefront of the struggle for freedom.

Even Rabindranath Tagore was a brahmin but he never differentiated people on the basis of caste.

I respect these people but I don't respect those Brahmins who discriminate people of Dharmic religion and weaken the Dharmic religion.

I had clearly showed disrespect to Naxalite even if they belong to Dalit because they are weakening the brotherhood and unity of Dharmic religion at the same time I have shown disrespect to only those Brahmins who weakend the unity of Dharmic religion.

I want to ask a question to Guesttttt who consider everything to be Brahmin Bashing the question is that does Guesttttt discriminate among a Individual belonging to a Dharmic religion with another Individual belonging to a Dharmic religion whether he is a Brahmin or Dalit.

Can Mr. Guesttttt strongly point out among those practicing Brahmins who don't differentiate an Individual of Dharmic religion on the bases of Caste?

Can Mr. Guesttttt justify the act of Priest of temple in Orissa who cleaned the temple premises when all Dalits finished worshipping? When God is equal for everyone they why did the Priest disallowed Dalits from their rights?

History itself proved that many Brahmins discriminated people due to which today Dharmic religion is considered as number 3 with respect to Population. Christainity and Islam is Overtaking the Dharmic religion.

Whoever does not discriminated is a respectable person? But the person who differentiate even if he is a Brahmin or a Dalit is a fool like ShekChilli who cuts the same branch in which he is sitting.

Among the great Brahmin scholars and writers are Nobel laureates Rabindranath Tagore and V. S. Naipaul and others like Mahapandit Rahul Sankrityayan, Subramanya Bharathy, Ramdhari Singh 'Dinkar', Suryakant Tripathi Nirala. Great Brahmin scientists include Nobel Laureate Sir C.V.Raman and Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar, and great Brahmin mathematicians include Srinivasa Ramanujan and C. P. Ramanujam. Even today, many Brahmins hold top posts in administration, academia, business, army, Air Force, journalism, etc. Many Brahmin leaders like C. Rajagopalachari and Lokmanya Tilak fought for the uplifting of the socially repressed Dalits and for the equality of Dalits in society.

These Brahmins helped in uniting Ancient Indian Dharmic religion.

At the same time I respect Adivasi like

Bhagini Shabari, a Bhil woman that offered Shri Rama and Shri Laxmana her half eaten 'ber' when they were searching for Shri Sita in the forest.

If Sri Ram ate half eaten Ber of Shabari then why some Brahmins think great about themselves and discriminate people on the bases of caste due to which Dharmic religion became Weak.

There is no Brahmin who is as great as Lokmanya Tilak in Mordern History and there is no Dalit as great as Dr. Babasaheb Ambedkar. There is a tradition in our Land since ancient times that we give respect to Knowlege and as these people were Knowledgeable they are respectable.

I has even objected wrong deeds of Dalit till then Mr. Guesttttt was enjoying but Mr. Guesttttt just objected when it was about Brahmin.

I respect Ancient Indian Dharmic religion and India. Whoever tries to break the unity of Ancient Indian Dharmic religion and India should be disrespected. I want that Ancient Dharmic religion of this land should be back in number one position than any other religion of this world.

Those Bahmins and Dalits who consider each other as brother and equal should be respected but those Brahmins and Dalits who consider each other as unequal should be given same treatment like what they give to each others.

You are sad about ego of Brahmins being hurted but you are not sad about the weakening of our Ancient Indian Dharmic culture. A person who converts to another religion not only converts to another religion but at the same times nuture hatred for the Ancient Indian Dharmic religion.

At the same time even Dalits should not blindly follow all the wrong information provided to them by some anti social elements like Naxalites. They should rather properly analyze our ancient Indian Dharmic culture. It was not just Dalits who were the ones who were deprived from ther rights. There are people belonging to Higher caste like Beeshma who were deprived from their rights for the sake of his low caste half brother. High caste Beeshma has to sacrifice his throne and marriage life for the sake of his Younger brother who belonged to low caste.

Instead of fighting among themselves both Brahmins and Dalits should unite. All sacred holy men of India should march into UP and Bihar to devlope and civilize the people over there. We are loosing our culture in these states. Uttar Bharat is the birth place of our Dharmic ancestor like Sri Ram, Sri Krishna, Mahaveer Vardhman and Gautam Buddha. It is the place where they lived, penanced and attained Moksha and today our Dharmic Land is spoiled by the Gun culture prevailing over there like Taliban. If our ascetics don't act in time and preach the message of eternal dharmic harmony in these regions then we will soon loose this land like how we lost the North Western Part of ancient Akanda Bharata. They should teach these people how to live in a civilized manner they should teach them how to read and write and develope oneself and in turn help in developing our country. They should help in stopping the Gun culture in these states once and for all. They should rebuild the world famous ancient Indian Dharmic university the Nalanda University. They should develop Ayurvedic cultivation and Yoga in full swing. Ayuved will become a golden hen for our ancient Indian Dharmic culture just like what Oil is for Arabs.

All these are inter related events, happening of one incident resulted into another incident. Karna sided with anti social element like Duryodhana it was not just his fault it was the fault of some unnecessary, irrelogical social customs being practized in those times.

Dalits should be invited into temples some of them should also be appointed as priest of the temples. Even the references and use of words like Brahmins, Dalits, Aryan and Dravidian should be banned so that no one in future tries to divide us on these issues. All of them should be considered as Indians and to be arrived from the heart of God. Only one word should be used that is Indian to Classify them. So that this time people like karna openly support Pandavas instead of Kauravas.

Reservations should be given on the bases of economical status of an individual and not on the bases of Caste, religion and race. So that all underpriviledge Dalits and Brahmins get equal oppertunity of the privileges at the same time only the one who is capable like Karna(Brahmin or Dalit) and who deserves will get his right share and serve our country along with Sri Krishna in the future Superpower Mahabharat of this world.

When Sri Krishna himself considered Karna to be the greatest warrior and archer then who are others to contradict Sri Krishna's words. Sri Krishna might have spoken these only after carefully thinking and analyzing. He will never speak any word without any strong reason and logical justification. I consider Sri Krishna was not only the good thinker of that era but also the first person who started a Democratic government in our Subcontinent in that era. He was the first person who started public sector Trade industries, there were many quotes of those time that many traders had invested into Sri Krishna's Ventures because of which they had to willingly or unwillingly pray for his victory and remain loyal towards him incase of any internal crises during the war otherwise they would have to loose their invested money if he looses in the war. He did not completely supported Caplitalist(right) and Communist(left) but a mixture of both called Democracy(centre). He appointed Pandavas at the borders of India in Hastinapur to defend foreign Invansion and appointed a Yadava member onto the throne of Indraprastha(Delhi) to maintain internal policies this resembles a pure today's Democratic principles. Sri Krishna was the Iron man of Ancient India. ........."For the People, By the People and Of the People."

Karna was the conqueror of ancient India who had merged foreing territories onto Greater India (Mahabharat which stretched from Greece to Tibet/Mongolia, Central Asia and today's Subcontinent - this was the reason why Yavanas(greeks) and other forienger participated in this war). Sri Krishna wanted Karna to side with him so that they can together spread Ancient Indian Dharmic culture into other foreign countries which only Karna was able of conquering because Sri Krishna very well knew that after this great war many people will seperate from the original Hastinapura kingdom and so it will be a bit difficult to re occupy the foreign territories without Karna. Sri Krishna even offered Karna to be the King of Pandavas if he sided with them but Karna sided with Duryodhana.

If Sri Krishna was present on the day when Karna was insulted by Pandavas then he would have never allowed Pandavas to insult Karna. Also, during the syamwara Sri Krishna just told Draupadi to stop Karna from hitting the arrow to the Fish's eye, he never told Draupadi to use those additional caste remarks which she gave of her own to Karna. She could have told Karna since he is participating on the behalf of Duryodhana hence he was not applicable for this contest because as per the rule of the contest the one who hits the eye of Fish has to marry Draupadhi but if Karna would have hit the eye of Fish then he would have married Draupadhi to Duryodhana and not himself but instead of that she remarked saying that he is not applicable for this contest because of Low caste origin.

You strongly objected when some of the policies of Brahmins were criticized why don't you object when people held Sri Krishna responsible for Mahabharat war. Don't you know that Sri Krishna tried all possible means to avoid the war he had even personally went and tried to make truce between both the parties.

Sri Krishna used to play with Gopis like a Kid and there was no affairs. Smt Radha was probably the wife of Sri Krishna from which his Nandvansh is continued because Sri Krishna is also considered as son of Nanda because of this curse for Yaduvansh will not be applicable for Nandvansh and so his descendants of Nandvansh continues.

It is well known that there were many enemies of Sri Krishna in those days so it is quiet possible that they might have spread derogatory information about Sri Krishna's Character due to jealously towards his fame and popularity so that people start disliking him. Sri Krishna was a Dharm Purush he cannot be a Casanova. Do you know what is the impact of these things people think that our Dharmic culture as adulterous. Why can’t Ayanaghosha, or Abhimanyu or Chandrasena the name of Smt Radha’s husband be another name of Sri Krishna himself? Some say that Smt Radha was older to Sri Krishna there can be possibility that villager might have told that "Radha Krishn sey baadi hai" this can also mean that Smt Radha might be belonging to richer family than Sri Krishna.’s foster father Nand.

Sri Krishna never disrespected any lady. How can Sri Krishna disrespect Ladies when he himself saved Draupadhi from being undress infront of entire court? He might have gauged some fool play by Shakuni due to which he might have given Draupadi a biggest Sari and might have asked her to wear it in a complicated manner rather than the normal way of wearing it so that it would take time to be undressed and the rapists does not understand from where and how it can be removed.

Why you do not object when people say that Sri Ram killed Bali Treacherously.

Sri Ram was a Maryada Pursuhottama meaning the was the Uttam Purusha who followed rules and regulations. There could be no Uttam Purusha in this world who follows his dharma like Sri Ram. He gave respect even for his enemies.

Shri Ram did not Killed Bali but he saved Sugreev

Shri Ram hit an arrow to Bali just when he was about to strangle Sugreev. Bali and Sugreev were fighting at that time Shri Ram remained quiet for long time. Shri Ram waited till Bali attempts to strangle Sugreev and that moment when he was about to do that Shri Ram shot an arrow at Bali to defend Sugreev. Hence Shri Ram shot an arrow to defend Sugreev and not to just kill Bali also they were at very far distance hence it is not possible to hit arrow just at the hand of Bali so that his grip loosen and Sugreev his freed from his clutches hence Shri Ram had to hit the arrow at Bali's back so that grip loosens. Also, as per the rules of Kshtriya one cannot defeat a retreating warrior or an enemy but in this case Bali was not at all retreating he had just faced his back towards Shri Ram hence Shri Ram had not broke any rules. First of all Shri Ram did not had any personal enmity with Bali hence there was no reason why Bali will fight with Shri Ram and if Bali does not fights with Shri Ram then Shri Ram would not be able to kill him. Also Shri Ram wanted to maintain the dignity of Bali because by killing Bali from behind Shri Ram proved that during the life time of Bali no one was able to defeat Bali face to face and hence Bali died like a warrior and also his pride was intact that no one was able to defeat him face to face. Hence this act is well justified.

How can Sri Ram Betray any one when he followed his one promise throughout his life that he will never have more than one wife and he followed his promise till he attained moksha.

Sri Ram was not responsible for abandoning Sita mata. She insisted in having the Golden Deer due to which he had to leave her alone. She even crossed the Lakshmanrekha. This incident shows that one who violates the law of Ram falls into trouble.

Why don’t you object when modern Buddhist say that Gautam Buddha and Jains say that Tirthankaras did not followed Dharmic tradition?

Mahaveera Vardhman and Gautam Buddha were not responsible for the decline of Vedas. They did not entire rejected Vedas they just have objected towards certain clauses like the caste system which will emerge into discrimination exactly like what is has become.

Nowhere Gautam Buddha and Mahaveera Vardhman had mentioned Jain Dharma and Buddha Dharma in their religious discourse. Sri Ram, Sri Krishna, Gautam Buddha and Mahaveera always indicated about Dharma that means all of them were talking about the same Dharma of ancient Indian culture and nothing new or nothing different.

Jina and Budh means the one who attained Gyan or Buddhi. So it was actually those 24 Tirthankaras who are Jains and 28 Buddhas as Boudh and not every one else who are following them because only those 24 Tirthankaras and 28 Buddhas have attained Kevalya and Nirvana(Ultimate Truth/Wisdom) and not all the followers of Buddhism and Jainism but still consider themselves to be a Jains and Buddhist just because they follow Tirthankaras and Buddha.

All Hinduism, Jainism, Buddhism and Sikhism belong to ancient Indian Dharma and nothing else. Along with Outsiders like Muslims and Christians we ourselves are responsible for the weakening of our Ancient Indian Dharmic Culture because of some of our irrelevant customes and practices.

rajag · April 3, 2007

The story of Mahabharatha means very little if you analyse it just for the drama and its charecters.We should probably be look for the innner meaning.

rajag

ombakth · April 4, 2007

Karna deserves that position of Greatest Archer don't deprive from this position just because he sided with Duryodhana. Even Beeshma, Dronacharya and many other sided with Duryodhana but they were held with respect as the greatest warrior then why Karna is not liable for this position.

He just owed to defend Duryodhana like a Bodygaurd so for this he was Killed in the battlefield, I think this settles the scores of him to side with Duryodhana.

It should be noted that he did spared his Pandava brothers during the war. It should be also noted he inspite of being discriminated he did not kept hatred for Brahmins rather he answered all his critics by developing his skills and talent, so his story also teaches to some of the underprivileged or discriminated people that even if they are discriminated they should try to gain respect by developing themselves and not by nuturing hatred toward the higher caste because most of them were not even present when their ancestors were discriminated as most of them were clubbed into High caste structure much later.

Karna's story also teaches that if one should not side with bad people even if the bad people support them because ultimate result is that they will have to loose everything at end just like how Karna lost everything.

Karna could be a bad man just because he sided with Duryodhana but otherwise they were many good things about him for which he was appreciated even by Sri Krishna.

By giving his life he not only defended Duryodhana till death and hence fulfilled his oath that till he is alive no one can harm Duryodhana but at the same time indirectly he made it easy for the Pandavas to end their enemy because as per Karna’s oath the clause was that “Till Karna is alive he will not allow any body to harm Duryodhana” as per this clause any body can Kill Duryodhana after Karna’s death and also this clause does not says that he has to kill Duryodhana’s enemy. He was free to forgive Duryodhana’s enemies but he will not allow them to harm Duryodhana.

If Brahmins and Dalits unite this will slove many issues.

* This will unite our Dharmic culture.

* Will stop the discrimination of fresh lot of younger generations who loose their opportunity just because of reservations. Equal opportunity for both talents of Brahmins as well as Dalits.

* Even People of low caste will contribute to develop the Dharmic culture like they always did since ancient times for. e.g. Ved Vyas, Valmiki, Vidura etc..

* This will also help in controlling the anti social elements like Naxalite, Terrorists and seperatists. If Dalits are given equal oppertunity then very foundation of such Naxalite organization will be broken and peace will be restored.

If you want to remain united and save Brahmins for backlashes then this is the only way by uniting Brahmins and Dalits.

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If you restrict God from meeting his devotees then it is obvious that God himself well get agitated of this act. God is free to meet any one whether he is a Dalit or a Brahmin.

It is Irony that some Priest restricting dalits from entering into <st1:City><st1:place>Temple</st1:place></st1:City> but they don't stop Prostitute dancing and performing flesh shows in one of the <st1:place><ST1:PlaceType>Temple</ST1:PlaceType> of <ST1:PlaceName>Madhya Pradesh</ST1:PlaceName></st1:place>.

Every one can come into temple to pray. Even a Prostitute can come to pray but they should not be allowed to start their business in and around temple premises. Devotees go to temple to in Bhakti Bhavana and not to see the dance of any Ms Bhakti or Ms Bhavana. Such vulgarity should be condemed.

There should be limit for narrow mindedness at the same time there should be a limit for open mindedness.

Vulgar images should be scraped off from the temple walls of Kajhurao and instead of that story of Sri Ram, Sri Krishna, Mahaveera Vardhman and Gautam Buddha should carved onto the wall of those temples. When the Vulgar Images were carved onto the temple at that time all members of Ancient Indian Dharmic culture were not consulted. Also temple should be place of Dedication and Devotion towards God and not to any vulgar images.

Just like suppose if you go to buy vegetable you choose and select only the good vegetables from the lot in the same way retain the good part of our Ancient Indian Dharmic religion and add good parts from outsider and remove the corrupt part from our Ancient Indian Dharmic religion so that henceforth any Muslim or Christian does not get any point to pin point at us. Our Ancient Indian Dharmic culture should be always correct and true. Just like how you sweep dirt from your residence so that your house becomes clean in the same way sweep away corrupt practices so that our Ancient Indian Dharmic Religion becomes Pure. Inspite of breaking Janivar(thread) still Guru Nanak became one of the sacred ascetics of our Holy India. India is the God's own country you will not find any country in the world that has snow mountains, plateau, plains, forests, Deserts, Sea, Coastal area, beaches all in the same country whereas India has everything in it it is almost represent Earth. If Delhi is the capital of India then India is the Dharmic Capital of entire Plannet Earth, like there is Desert is most countries of Africa but there is no snow mountains in those countries(except in some African countries) similarly there is snow Mountains in some countries of Europe but no desert in those countries(except in some European countries). You will never see Tigers and Lions both in same country except in zoos but <st1:country-region><st1:place>India</st1:place></st1:country-region> is the only country where we have Gir Lions as well as Bengal Tigers both of whose Natural Habitat is India Itself.

The fact that Karna selected Shayla as his charioteer inspite of knowing that Shayla was Nakula and Sahadeva’s uncle and hence might try to help his nephews, shows that even internally Karna wanted that his Pandava brothers should be able to kill him easily. Karna made himself vulnerable for his brothers.

Take for e.g. in today’s generation if a Minister orders the Police to stop the protestors and in this scenario the protestor might be protesting of Justice or the protestor might be themselves corrupt people at the same time the Minister who order the Police to stop the protestors might a good Minister or corrupt Minister now in this scenario Police has to follow the orders of the Minister and stop the protestor this does not means in this scenario that it is Polices fault for acting against the Protestor, the same applies for Karna who fought against the enemies of Duryodhana now whether the enemies are good people or bad people it does not matter much of any soldier even in current scenario, Karna had to serve his master in the war just like how Beeshma served his kingdom in the war whether it is being ruled by a Good king or Bad king.

Sri Parashuram Kshetra was in present day Kerala so it is obvious that he was trained in Karali Payattu the Indian Martial arts from which all Chinese and Japanese Martial arts was invented. Sri Parashuram taught Karna this Martial Arts. This was the reason why Karna was the great warrior because he was capable of aiming with bow and arrow with different angles as well as he was capable of swinging Mace(Gadha weapon) just like a Sword.

Arjuna and Eklavya got their skills from Dronacharya who was trained by Sri Parashuram but Karna was directly trained by Sri Parashuram himself.

Everything was Historical but it became Mythological.

Mace(Gadha weapon) of Sri Hanuman was just like the so called Malab used in Desi Gym since Ancient times. Since Sri Hanuman was a Body builder he was capable of using this tools even as a weapon in battlefield.

The dress of Sri Hanuman could have been something that resemble like a Tail due to which people belonging to other clan of his era might be addressing it as a Tail. Take for e.g. in today’s generation when they see any common villager wearing a Dhoti they consider it to be awkward same may be the reaction for Sri Hanuman’s dress code by other members of different society. If you notice the dhoti of men and Kache dress of maharastrian village women and men you might find the end of the dress called dhoti or men/ Kache of maharastrian women which is stuffed at the back looks similar to a Tail, It could be possible that that the dress of Sri Hanuman was something like that.

The words Vishu and Shiva are from same origin. Consider Vish of Vishnu and Shiv of Shiva you will find that V I S H of Vish and S H I V of Shiv are same letters and if you try to prounce Vishnu like Vi + Sh and now Shiva like Sh + iV the appear to be same.

Mahabharat and Ramayana stories were real Historical events.

ombakth · April 8, 2007

Thanks for all Brahmins and Pandits of Tirupati. You are really genius you are helping in uniting all Hindus.

Brahmins and Dalits of Tirupati have united now let us see how a caliph or a pope dares to break our uniting.

Ancient Indian Dharmic religion is the great. Brahmins and Dalits are brothers both are great.

All together united Ancient Indian Dharmic religion are great.

I hope even preist of Orissa learn something from the Tirupathi Brahmins and even they help in uniting all Hindus, Jains, Buddhist and Sikhs.

Jai Sri Rama, Jai Sri Krishna, Jai Mahaveera Vardhman, Jai Gautam Buddha, Jai Guru Nanaka.

Good work Brahmins of Tirupati. You are great! Good work Dalits of Tirupati even you are great.

United Ancient Indian Dharmic religion Induism(People of Indigeneous culture Hinduism, Jainism, Buddhism and Sikhism).

Few more thing about karna that will help in establishing Dharmic religion back even in Europe

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finland

There are many people of European named as Karna. In <st1:country-region><st1:place>Finland</st1:place></st1:country-region>, <st1:country-region><st1:place>Denmark</st1:place></st1:country-region> and <st1:country-region><st1:place>Sweden</st1:place></st1:country-region>. Some of them even claim that Karna was the common name in earlier days. Whether they are descendants of Karna or not but still the name Karna was spread throughout the World. This can be the derivate of the Indian name Karna and no one else because he was the only world conqueror in the ancient times. This is was the reason why most of the nations participated in the Maha Bharata war the war of Greater Bharata which stretched from <st1:place>Europe</st1:place> to <st1:place>Asia</st1:place>.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denmark

Some references of usage of Name “Karna” in European countries.

http://www.princeton.edu/~sophia/karna/html/karna.html

http://www.karna.us/

Note that most of these countries are Nordic Countries. It could be possible that Karna might not be a blonde. He might just be fair skinned because there were instances that say that he shines like Sun. Or he might have married blondes of <st1:country-region><st1:place>Denmark</st1:place></st1:country-region>, <st1:country-region><st1:place>Sweden</st1:place></st1:country-region> and <st1:country-region><st1:place>Finland</st1:place></st1:country-region>.

As Karna was the ancestors of Huna and Khans, it might be possible that Nords of Sweden, <st1:country-region><st1:place>Denmark</st1:place></st1:country-region> and <st1:country-region><st1:place>Finland</st1:place></st1:country-region> may be indirect descendants of Karna because Swet Hunas were actually belonged to same group of Hunas of China.

It is very clear that Dhillons were the descendants of Karna. Dillons belonged to Jat clan and Jat clan DNA matches with the Goths and Jutes who belong to the Nord race.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhillon

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jat

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goths

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jutes

Other Indian Tribe were Tarkhans (which is similar to Tartars, Turks and Khans).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarkhan_%28Punjab%29

Just like their ancestor Karna and Genghis Khan, even all Khans and Europeans should come back to Ancient Indian Dharmic religion and consider Mohammed as Mahamat Acharya and Jesus and Ishu Acharya just a teacher and not as creator of new religions because they did not teach any new religion they just migrated the Ideology and Principle of our Ancient Indian Dharmic religion to their respective Land. Even if people baptize to Christianity and Islam it is meaningless because even after baptizing they are indirectly following the Ancient Indian Dharmic culture in the disguise of Christianity and Islam, this is the reason why in our Land we are born into Ancient Indian Dharmic religion and we don’t have to get ourself Baptized. The child born to a Christian family and a Muslim family by default belongs to the ancient Indian Dharmic culture due to this later on they convert them to Christianity and Islam. Instead of converting to Christianity and Islam they should retain the Ancient Indian Dharmic religion.

Islam was capable of attracting many followers because they used to give them equal status irrespective of their race, caste, gender and background but as soon as they convert to Islam they teach them hatred against Non Muslim. When Mahamut Acharya himself spared his enemies then why are these Terrorists killing innocent peoples who have got nothing to do with Religious Politics. Muhammed either copied or taught the same Alakh Niranjan (Alakh means "that which is not seen" and niranjan means "without any stains.") as Allah U Akbar( God is Great). That is why Allah as per Alakh is not seen. As per Islam there are 100 name of God but only 99 names are just adjecive of God but last one is hidden which is the original name of God and that can be nothing else than Om. Hence Om is the real name of God and not Allah. The reason is that either Muhammad did not want to accept the fact that Om was the real god because then the existence of Islam will end or he himself did not knew the name of the God. Also, Muhammed was preached by Angel Gabriel and not the God himself. Only ancient Indian ascetics and Jesus used to speak to God directly.

http://www.albushra.org/varia/allah.htm

Just like how 99 names of Allah in Islam is considered as adjectives of the same God then why can’t Brahman(not Brahmin caste), Vishnu, Mahesh, Parmatama, Parameshwar, Parampitaha, Jina and Buddha is considered as the adjectives of the same God Ancient Indian Dharmic God that is <st1:place>Om.</st1:place> Each and every single thing in Islam was copied from Ancient Indian Dharmic culture. If there was no Ancient Indian Dharmic culture then it would have been very difficult for Muhammed and Jesus to spread the idea of Divine God to foreigners. Until and Unless they don’t get the final name of God their religion is incomplete and we the followers of Ancient Indian Dharmic religion knew the original name <st1:place>Om</st1:place>(Aum) of the creator who created entire Universe from whom Brahma, Vishnu and Mahesh were created. Our Ancient Indian Dharmic religion is the complete religion.

Christianity was capable of attracting many followers because they used to say that their Lord sacrificed his life for humanity, he forgave even his killers that too Romans themselves but as soon as they convert to Christianity they teach them hatred against Non Christians like the Jews. It is a irony that Romans themselves killed Jesus and blamed Jews entirely for the Cruxification of Jesus. But still Christians feel that what Roman Church says that is all true.

Those who are Non Muslims and Non Christians directly belong to Ancient Indian Dharmic religion and those who are Muslims and Christians indirectly belong to Ancient Indian Dharmic Religion.

Both Brahmins and Dalits should work together for strengthening our Ancient Indian Dharmic culture. Whatever happened till now forget it and start a fresh? Give both Brahmin and Dalit an equal status and equal share in our Dharmic religion of this Land which was preserved by Sri Parashuram, Sri Ram, Sri Krishna, Mahavira Vardhman, Gautam Buddha, Dharmic Samrat Ashoka and Guru Nanak.

Break the Janivar like Guru Nanak and accept the Saffron(Unity of all Bhramins, Kshatriays, Vaishs, Dalits, Non-Muslims and Non-Christians).

Ancient Indian Dharmic religion knew about <st1:City><st1:place>Darwin</st1:place></st1:City>’s theory much before than <st1:City><st1:place>Darwin</st1:place></st1:City>.

It was always said that Life transformed from different living beings until it became human, we misinterpreted it as each and every single human spirit first takes birth in the form of a microorganism and then takes birth in the form of insect and then takes birth in the form of bird and then takes birth in the form of animals and later on takes birth in the form of Human. Actually, our Ancient Indian Dharmic religion was taking about entire Human being as one entity that entire Human beings collectively originated from microorganism and then insects and then bird and then animals and finally Humans. The life here was an entire entity of Living beings collectively and not just spirit of an Individual.

It is prophesied that Islam and Christianity will end and only Ancient Indian Dharmic religion will remain because just like <st1:place>Om</st1:place>(Aum) and universe it is neither created nor destroyed. "

April 12, 2007

Karna was son of the Sun God with powers given by Sun God no one could defeat him in battle. In short he has no death. Knowing this Krishna played his lila in stealing away his powers. Indra came in disguise to ask for his kavacha kudalam[golden armour attached to his skin at birth]. As Karna is a giver he did not say no to Indra who was in disguise but Karna was warned by his father the Sun God. He was asked not not use his bramastram on Arjuna, and his mother after discovering that Karna was her son begged him not to harm Arjuna. In the end when the chariot was stuck in the pit and Karna alone trying to bring it out Krishna took the opprotunity by asking Arjuna to strike his arrow on an unarmed Karna. Even towards the end Karna was still alive and Krishna went in disguise to ask for Karna's blood as dhanam which was very cruel and ill minded. So, in short it was a cunning plot orchstrated by Krishna to defeat Karna. There may be a moral to this story but it all comes down to cheat and win. That is the moral of Mahabaratha.

We seem to forget that following Dharma is the most supreme prowess a warrior can have. Karna was defeated by Arjuna at the battle of Virata, that war where Pita Maha Bhisma warned the army not to fight Arjuna as he has performed austerities and will be forbiddable in battle. Arjuna defeated them all: likes of Ashwathama, Drona, Karna, Bhishma...etc Abhimanyu also assailed Karna during the Chakarvayuh. And not to forget one important point during the Kurukshetra war, Karna was fresh in battle (coming on the 9-10th day at the fall of Bhishma), Arjuna was not. The Lord doesnt steal anyone's powers because everything is his. the Moral of the story is forget who is powerful and who is not, it doesnt matter, the person who is the devotee of Lord Krishna is always victorious and those who go against dharma, no matter who powerful they are, they will be luckless, be they be more powerful than Arjuna, it doesnt matter. Arjuna was an instrument of the Lords desire and the Lord's desire is the most powerful in any war.

April 12, 2007

Karna was Naraka in his previous life and he was so powerful that the Lord Himself had to descend to earth to kill him.

Krishna did say to Arjuna that they had to cheat because fighting such undefeatable warriors such as Bhishma, Karna and Drona, it would not be won fairly, Krishna did admit that. But deception was not only played by Krishna, we seem to forget that throughout Mahabharata Duryodhana and his group without any moral reason did on so many occasions, deceptively caused pain to the Pandavas. and the rules of war says that there is no adharma to use deception against a deceptive enemy. Krishna in this way chose the art of deception at the right time. And we cannot label Krishna has a bad character, everything in relation to Him, His character, His personality etc are all on the absolute platform that is...its beyond our perception of what is right and what is wrong. Regarding the blood incident. Bhagwad Geeta already says that the soul is eternal, if we percieve this correctly we see that all this enacted to help us learn that nothing goes with those who goes against the will of the Lord.

vamsimajeti · June 19, 2007

arjuna is no doubt greatest archer because he alone did not retreat from battle field karna retreated many times form arjuna in battle field

karna was even not able to defeat bheema and fled from him many times in

battle field and he defeated bheema by deciet karna even killed abhimanyu by deceit i agree that karna was generous but not a great warrior than Arjuna Arjuna is the Peerless Archer in Mahabharata.Arjuna,Drona,Bhishma are greatest warriors of mahabharata

there is no instance in mahabharata where arjuna was afraid of karna Arjuna singlehandedly defeated devas,gandharvas and nivathakavachas.he even fought with shiva and Lord Shiva himself said that

there was none equal to him.when jayadratha sought boon from lord Shiva

that he should defeat pandavas the lord shiva said that he himself is incapable of defeating arjuna then how can he give him the boon.

and some people have said that karna was asked by kunti not to use nagastra twice that is not true arjuna had greatest astra pashupata

but he did not rely on it for vistory he could have used it but he did not use it because he wanted to win victory by power of his arms but karna relied on shakti astra to kill arjuna

and again he used nagastra when he was not able to defeat arjuna by any astra or arrows.Karna was always jealous of arjuna

though he knew arjuna was his brotherhe still hated him and wanted to kill

him

some are saying that kuru army was not prepared to fight with arjuna at viratnagara so they lost this is not true they have come well

prepared and karna tried to defeat arjuna but he ran away from arjuna twice in battlefield and arjuna defeated all of them

Arjuna is Greatest warrior

Jai Arjuna Jai Krishna

vamsimajeti · June 19, 2007

Also, Karna did not kept hatred in his heart against the high caste people. Even if a Brahmin came to Karna he treated with respect to that Brahmin and also donated to that Brahmin. Because he knew that some individuals of some section of society might have treated him with disrespect but everyone did not treat him with disrespect the why should he hate everyone. He knew that each one is responsible for his/her deed, entire society is not supposed to be blamed for the deeds of few Individual. He agreed that few people insulted him but he also agrees that there were many who did not knew him at all that means everyone did not insult him then why should he keep hatred against each and every single individual to whichever caste they belongs.

Karna proved that even a person from low origin can gain high status by hardwork and determination. Hence keeping hatred towards others is of no use rather than wasting time and effort in hating others they should contribute their time and effort in developing themselves. Karna conquered many countries and merged it with India making it Akanda Bharat instead of splitting it.

Karna's life is a teaching for those Naxalite and Terrorist, that one should not keep hatred. A person can attain high status with his deeds and hardwork hence instead of hating other section of the society they can develop themselves by hardwork and determination and help in strengthening the country.

Instead of dividing the country they should help in strengthening the country.

I am proud of Sri Krishna and Karna because at first place they themselves were Indians and on the other hand they helped in Strengthening India. Sri Krishna strengthened India by uniting all tribes inhabitating in India whereas Karna strengthened India by conquering other Lands and merging it with India hence both tried in making it Maha Bharat(Greater India).

Sri Krishna and Karna inspite of being a Prince they lead a humble childhood so it is obvious that what ever they acheived in their lifetime was by their hardwork and determination. Their story teaches that with Hardwork, Determination and Sincerity towards his/her work one can become big.

Even in the dice game Karna was not aware that Duryodhana and Shakuni will do cheating to win the match. Most of the secrets and plan that Shakuni told to Duryodhana was never revealed in detail to Karna because Duryodhana knew that Karna's rules and regulations(Adarsh and Osul) will not allow Karna to support such evil plan. Hence Duryodhana used to hide most of the modlus operandi of their plan from Karna.

There was one incident where when Karna and Duryodhana's wife were playing dice at that time Duryodhana's wife's part of a dress came down but Karna still did not looked at her with bad intentions. Later on when Duryodhana noticed it he quietly came and made his wife's dress proper and did not questioned Karna because he trusted Karna's character and loyalty towards Duryodhana.

During the dice Match Karna did insult Draupadhi but he never tried to undress her, the reason was that he returned her back those caste comments which she had made on him during her Swyamwar. Whoever it is whether a man or a women they should not take the liberty of their gender as granted, they should watch before passing such comments on others phsyical apperances(handicap or ugly), caste, race, way of worship and economical condition because this might hurt ones sentiments. The verbal abuses which she gave to him at that time he returned it back verbally to her but he did not raised his hands on her, he did not tried to rape her, he did not did not returned it back with violence. Verbal abuses returned with verbal abuses and not with phsyical abuse. Thing which is wrong is wrong whoever does it.

Also, on top of this Sri Krishna himself quoted that "Karna was the great warrior than Arjuna" then I definitely believe in what Sri Krishna said because Sri Krishna never told anything without any reason.