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Niteshm, pls do not misunderstand. It is not that the victim can not help other victims but it is not always that victims who can not help for themselves, get successful in releasing other victims.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:" /><o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Balaji</ST1:Pl Temple is well known for removing possession of evil spirits and many victims visit the temple and the success rate is also very high. Therefore, I am seeking the help in this regard. <o:p></o:p>

Thank you lov_alliance18 for your support. At the moment I do not have my horoscope with me to know the exact time of the birth. I guess without TOB, the horroscope can not be prepared/studied.

Nithshmji, if you are a victim black magic youself, how can you help the other victims by giving examples of Devi Maa Temples in Himachal.

Hi…Niteshm. I am a victim of black magic/ghost spells for many years. Black Magic/Ghost Spells are usually the same with extremely bad effects unbearable to live. You must have read many threads in this connection. I visited many tantriks/temples/dargas but did not get release from the ghost spells. This Balaji Temple is known for removal of ghost possession and there are many who got free from the possession after visiting this temple.

I am victim of Black Magic/ghost Spells and wish to go to Balaji Temple at Mehendipur in June. Balaji Temple at Mahendipur is known as powerful place for removing black magic or possession of evil spirits. I have learnt that there are certain pujas/offerings to be performed in the required order to get the release from black magic/ghosts spells. People who go there without knowing the exact procedure, waste their time in finding it or get confused. Besides, the local people can misleads the new visitors. Since I am a first time visitor of this Balaji Temple, I request to all those who visited this temple and knew the correct procedure of the pujas/offerings, to give some details/advise about it. Like me, there are many who are victims of the black magic and regularly visit this forum, will be benefited by your valuable advise. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:" /><o:p></o:p>

There is a ashram in Dadar, Mumbai who cleanse the black magic/ghost spells, if anybody knows the location/contact no., please provode. http://www1.timesofindia.indiatimes....ow/3320270.cms

There is a ashram in Dadar, Mumbai who cleanse the black magic/ghost spells, if anybody knows the location/contact no., please provode. http://www1.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Mumbai/Ghost-busters_at_Dadar_ashram/articleshow/3320270.cms

It is easier to say than to do. When people around you treat you as enemies and trouble you to the maximum, you can not do anything except praying. It is but natural. If they are checking your every thought/activity, you will not allow you to pray/chant because, it is obstructing their path and beliefs. Therefore it is important that we need to be in the group of good compay rather than pray all the time and still suffer in the hands of bad people. You will find many devils in our civilized society who learn all the good things from you and still obstruct your divine path. You just can not change the beliefs of every Choudharys and Singhs. They have to realize their mistakes by idividual experience or adivse from the right authorities. Sometimes, confusion in mind can be created by the others so easily with the help of circumstances that every act appears to be correct. You can not say anything to people who create groups just to play with ghosts. The sinful deeds which man commit are mainly due to ignorance. When ignorance vanishes once and for all by performance of good and selfless deeds, the final goal ever remains in view. Commission of vicious deeds indicates that the Jiva is not yet an evolved one and that he is to gain more and more experiences of the world and undergo repeated and continual refinement from grossness. For the disappearance of ignorance and firm remembrance of God, there is no way more powerful than to encounter the kicks, blows and knocks of the world that may greet one unawares

We come across so many possessed persons living near dargas/Temples under the complete control of ghosts. They cannot even express their problems due to their helplessness. They are banned to live in our civilized society, still their enemies do not spare them because of ulterior motives. If they seek help, it does not mean that they are glorifying their past (suffering). In our day-to-day life, we meet so many persons with different beliefs, different backgrounds, different kindness etc. Everybody is different in his own way. We cannot force them to believe the dharma, they have to understand it by experiencing themselves earlier or later. Most of these persons do not know what is wrong.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:" /><o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Should the means to achieve good ends be always good? Except the rank materialists, the Charvakas, the founders of all other systems of Indian thought boldly declare that "one should not adopt a foul means to achieve a desired end, however covetable that end may be". There should not be any doubt regarding this point.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Medicine tastes bitter, but cures diseases. For, the medicine, whether it be sweet or bitter, in so far as it does not do any harm to the patient or anybody else while curing the disease, should be considered as a means free from any fault. It is a fair means to achieve the end, viz., cure of the disease. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Arjuna fought against the Kauravas to achieve good ends. But the battle fought by Arjuna was not an exhibition of cruelty, but an execution of one’s own duty. The war fell to his lot as pure duty or Svadharma. Arjuna did not want it himself. He did not impose it on the Kauravas. He was challenged to it by them. He had to defend himself and his clan. As a Kshatriya, it was his sacred duty and moral responsibility to fight for the defense of his rights. Thus, Arjuna’s fighting the battle being purely duty-bound, is thoroughly justified. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Sri Krishna has reiterated this point in several places in the Gita. On the contrary, if Arjuna had shirked away his responsibilities of fighting the battle, then he would have been failing in his Dharma. Hence the Lord’s repeated commands to him: Svadharmamapi Chavekshya Na Vikampitumarhasi (Waver not from your own duty on seeing it in front of you), Yudhyasva Vigatajvara (Do thou fight, free from mental fever), etc.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> I agree with Bija that we should raise ourselves above our problems by culminating gyana but sometimes we are conditioned to such a critical situation that it will test our patience every moment. If cruels are allowed to do anything, probably we end up becoming slaves. Realized persons with highest conscious level will never work in this distressful materialistic world. In fact, to get higher level of consciousness, one will have to renounce everything. Alternatively, we always think that worst than this could have happened.

I agree with Bija’s suggestion. I forgot to inform you that some of my colleagues do visit this forum and your suggestion can be an eye opener for them. My experience says that those who deny ghosts, either do not know much about the ghosts or have vested interest. I am seeking advise about the people who are troubling the most, whether to keep quite or defend myself. Sometimes people becomes so egoistic that they can not accept that a person does not get affected by their collective efforts so they try all the tricks of books to boost their ego. The point is, if tolerance level is increased, they will also increase torture. What will happened in case of death. Can ghosts follow/chase the subtle soul ?

Please Help if possible. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:" /><o:p></o:p> I am suffering from black magic for the last 15 years. It is the people around me in the office who are torturing the most with the help of ghosts/evil sprits. They keep on repeating what ghosts are telling them (in ghost's local language) which are about my problems, thoughts or my activities. They are interfering my every activity by repeating ghosts words. Even they fight with me on the information they get from the ghosts. As it is, I am facing the problems of ghosts for whatever they do. But how to control the people ? They have their own beliefs that they are correct or I should not defend myself. They even started to make losses for me being the part of the black magic. They are doing only the things which are affecting me the most adversely. This information is being provided regularly by the ghosts to them. <o:p></o:p> The mantras hardly have any affect on these ghosts but most of the time it’s the people around me who are interfering my personal life. My colleagues minds are so polluted with the hearsay of the ghosts that they are started asking me ‘what is wrong (in hearing ghosts) ?’. They are trying all the psychological tactics collectively to harass me to the maximum. I cannot leave the job because of my family. It is followed everywhere from the office but, in office the problem is unbearable because over the years, my colleagues knew more about me through the ghosts. Many brains are engaged behind my back to destroy me. How to defend myself. If I leave it to God completely, the colleagues cross the limit, which forces me to defend myself in whatever possible way (Saints do not work in office). However, I cannot defend myself at all, due their collective strength and intention. Taking it as an offense, they keep on playing their psychological tricks as amusement. <o:p></o:p> The root cause of the problem is the ghosts but it is the people’s inhuman behaviour which is destroying me. Please advise me what to do in such situation.

Dear Appolonius, Going back to the times when even Lord Krishna had not yet arrived... Mahavira, Gautama Buddha, Jesus Christ and Prophet Mohammed had also not been born... how the humanity conducted itself! At this point of time it was Dharma and Dharm alone which supported every living being for the seeds of Dharma exist within every living being inherently all the time. It is Dharma within every living being which prompts one to maintain ethical standards in life always and ever. That is why, it is also important that we ought to know the reason behind every black magic to know the magnitude of the problem. You need to remember the order of events taken place at the time of initialization of the black magic. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:" /><o:p></o:p> You may confirm your problems with this link http://spiritualresearchfoundation.org/spiritualresearch/difficulties/Ghosts_Demons/typesofghost_demon.php

In Bhagvad Gita shloka X-3 Lord Krishna explains various facets knowing which one can be understood to achieve the status of the knower of all ... become Omniscient. Here Lord Krishna emphasizes upon the fact that the entity of God is and has always been one without a birth ... the existence of god is from Times Immemorial ... that is without a beginning and an end. God. In today’s world, we see that people tries to prove others wrong by saying they do not believe in god for whatever reasons (age old tactic). One must also understand the psychology of the people involved in the black magic repeatedly. Incomplete knowledge often makes man confused, that’s why we search the right guru who can guide us correctly. The great Bhishma shed tears when he was on his death-bed. When questioned why he cried, he replied that the Pandavas were great devotees of the Lord and always abided by the laws of Dharma. Above all, the Lord was constantly with them in the form of Krishna. And yet they underwent so much of suffering. Some wicked persons do flourish in this world of hypocrisy, but it does not mean that they are free from suffering. The really good souls do not suffer as much as the ‘flourishing’ wicked ones, for peace is in the hearts of the former. To be able to abide by the ideals they hold sacred is by itself a great cause of happiness. The welfare and the misery of people can be explained only in terms of the law of Karma.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:" /><o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Pace of development in the Spiritual field takes much longer than what would be required in the field of science. The path is totally unfamiliar and untrodden. Only when the Teachings are being imparted by no other than Lord Krishna himself ... does Arjuna find solace in the matter. And this fact is put to use by Lord Krishna by emphasizing upon him again and again to logically understand the chain of events, which has led to the collapse of Dharma in the present society. I met many personalities directly involved in the ghost spells and tried to understand their ideology. Initially, they told me they were sorry for all these events happened but they should not be blamed because they did not start the spells first (they casted the spells later). Later they gave some simple solutions. Even today, it is very difficult for me to accept that any human being can ever go to such an extent to get what he wants. Same people were asking me in the beginning “Why you pray god, will God come to save you ?” I was not knowing about their ghost spells then and now they are sorry for everything. I am still staying away from them because if these shameless people do not know what they are doing, they will repeat for n number of times. Throughout Sri Rama’s life, he behaved like an ordinary man only. He had to do that, because Ravana had a boon that he could not be killed by Devas, Asuras, Rakshasas, Yakshas, serpents, bears, etc. Ravana, in his pride, had belittled the strength of man and Ravana could be killed only by a man. So Sri Rama had to show that he was an ordinary man only. Otherwise, if Rama had exhibited himself to be a god, according to the boon of Brahma, he would have been disqualified for destroying Ravana<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Why so? Not even the Spiritual Masters who have accomplished a certain state of Spiritual development are unable to conceive the concept of God. Not possible for Celestial beings (Devtas) and even Spiritual Masters ... there must be something divine in reaching the stage of God Realization. No Spiritual guru or a master can ever make us understand the principle behind the absolute truth unless we put a foot forward and make every effort to understand it. The Spiritual Master can only act as a guide ... a pillar of wisdom on our journey towards absolute freedom from Life For instance, awakening of the kundalini cannot be done by just having faith in God. It is useless to convince a person about the validity of Kundalini when he cannot understand it. Logical arguments may be advanced, but a rank skeptic has to evolve further to be alive to this truth. The philosophical implications and mystic signification of experience must be studied well before one can attempt to answer such skeptics.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> In the ultimate sense, words do not explain Truth. But they give a hint by which one can know Truth directly in experience. Words have a relative value and they must be made use of, though they do not constitute our real aim. Relative obstructions to the knowledge of Truth can be removed through relative means and thus the absolute Truth can be realized.

I am still searching.... aghori.

Dear Ravindran, A sadhak starts his Sadhana from the point or stage he left in his previous birth. Some are born with account of purity and other requisites of realization on their having undergone the necessary discipline in their past life. They are born Siddhas. Guru Nanak, Jnana Dev of Alandi, Vama Dev and Ashtavakra were all adepts from their very boyhood. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:" /><o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> A real Guru is a Srotriya and a Brahmanishtha, one who is learned in the scriptures and established in Brahman. The Guru, by virtue of his wisdom and capacity, draws towards himself the souls fit to be guided by him. Guru is God in manifested form, and when Divinity is seen in a person, he can be chosen as the Guru. When the disciple is ready to receive the higher Light, he is brought into contact with a suitable Guru by the Supreme Dispensation. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Mere study of books cannot make one a guru. One who has studied the Vedas and who has direct knowledge of Atman through experience can only be enrolled as a guru. A Jivanmukta or a liberated sage is the real guru or spiritual preceptor. He is the Satguru. He is identical with Brahman or the Supreme Self. He is a Knower of Brahman. Possession of Siddhis is not the test to declare the greatness of a sage or to prove he has attained Self-realization. Satgurus do not exhibit any miracles or Siddhis. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> I am sorry to say that what examples you are giving are interesting to read and to substantiate your views but not applicable everywhere. I can also give few examples which suggests the contrary. I knew many elite people recognized for their good work and still supporting the evil activities. I met few priests who are in-charge of the temples and explained my problem to them. After listening everything, to my disbelief, they started favouring the ghosts showing their involvement/support.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Just imagine what will happen when many tantriks cast many spells of black magic just to exhibit their siddhi powers on a single person and others applaud. Moreover, what time the victim will get to gather faith etc. when he is not allowed to live/think etc. and not even praying God. I know many such cases which bring shame to mankind.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> I already met many ‘siddha’ persons but they were unable to break the spells. That does not mean that I do not have faith in them or their deities. They have solved problems of many. Furthermore, if the tantrik is also a bhakta of another deity, how can the power of different deities confront.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> There are many types of black magic, few of them are very fatal. The victims do not get even a chance to complain or ask for help. Although, these methods are not divine, it is still a magic for the common man. Even today you will find many youngsters visit these Bengali Tantriks regularly to fulfill their wishes. Unless the understanding of the truth and strive to realize it, how can they develop faith in Supreme God.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> From my past experiences, I say that these sadhanas requires specific technique under the supervision of Guru to get the success. Mere chanting mantra from books will create only the casual effect of mantra vibration. Everybody has the right to have his own belief and experience. What one person experience during his sadhana may not be experienced by everybody.

Dear Bhairo, A troubled person often tries every trick of book to get rid of trouble. Having faith does not mean that the victim should keep on doing sadhana till the end of his life. He gives some period of time for the sadhana with complete devotion. When sadhak is doing any sadhana, he has to follow the basic needs of sadhana (including faith in guru, faith in deity, tantra, specific mala, day, time etc.) as directed by Guru. It is also possible that inspite of all the direction from Guru, the sadhak does not gets the success. And, finally the Guru gives the 'shaktipath' to the shishya. This happens only when the sadhak is very close to Guru. There are many sadhnas like baglamukhi sadhana which are meant to get rid of enemies. All these are divine sadhnas but what bengali road-side tantriks are doing is not divine. They are using all dirty methods to get the siddhis and sometimes, they theselves do not know the answer for the problems they create. I visited few rare persons blessed by the deities to get rid of the black magic. They successfully broke the spells of many victims but in my case they could not do so. Dear Bhairo, if you have achieved any sadhana, please let us know your experience.

Dear Ravindran, There are many things which are given in Atharva Veda. If everything given in Atharva Veda is true, everybody will use atharva veda to fulfil their desires. I wish to believe that the fire ritual break the spells but circumstances does not allow me to do so. Firstly, the tantriks who casted these spells themselves are unable to break the spells. There are many spells which made the things complicated. I met few tantriks and they told me although their is no direct enminity between us, the situation became more complexed long time ago. Secondly, in the past these spells were broken twice/thrice for few days and again re-started, meaning some evil minded people will not leave me. Thirdly, I knew the persons and their intentions who approached tantriks so they would not let me free. With regards to fire ritual, I will do a fire ritual but please do not say that if the spells is not broken then it is not a black magic because not only me but people around me are hearing the ghosts talk. When people shouts at them, these ghosts go far away temporarily (know from their voices) or leaves bad smell out of fear. In some type of black magics, the ghosts does not enter the body but remains near the victim and influece/control his mind/thoughs/sleep etc. or influence the minds of people around to make the victim suffer in every possible way. I also contacted few police inspectors who knew the things and they told me that there is no law to catch the culprits. The latest technology of lie detector test is not yet available. I am being trying many mantras on the ghosts to check whether it is affecting them but they are fooling. For sometime, they pretends as if it is affecting them but later they shows that it is not affecting them so it causes little frustration due to hope and hardworking. I personally feel that these mantras are ineffective unless they are made 'siddha' with the help of sadhana. So the person who has successfully completed sadhana only can make use of the mantra and break the spell. Besides, to do any sadhna, the sadhaka needs a perfect Guru who can be able to guide him till the path of the sadhana. I met many Guru who have thorough knowledge of Vedas and various divine sadhanas including 10 maha vidya sadhanas. Finally, they advised me to Dhumavati mahavidya Sadhana, which is meant for 'alakshmi' and success of the enmity. The point is they were aware that these spells can not be broken.

Dear Ravidran, I myself is a victim of black magic and I read your solution of worshiping "Agni". I wonder if it works for severe black magic because for me it is a open challenge from these tantriks(many) who casted the black magic on me. There are many types of black magic involved. In brief, I am hearing the ghosts sounds constantly who speaks my mind. Even people around me are hearing these ghosts sounds and obstruction. Needless to say what all the things ghosts can do. I visited many tantriks, temples, dargas but no effect. Many people gave many solutions. Now these ghosts are habitual of these mantras etc. These tantriks are very powerful and they are very difficult to meet. So to get a real tantrik is very difficult. Besides, those who get the power to cast black magic obviously see to it that the spells does not be broken.

Since you are in Delhi, you can visit MAA KAMINI DEVI JI whose addres is 1798, 3rd floor; Outram lines near kingsway camp.opposite phoolwari park delhi-110009 and her home number is 01143715089 (appointment required). She is a kal kapal mahakal tantrik known for breaking this type of spells and still does not charge anything. People have experienced her divine power. If she can not break the spell, you can seek another help.

Sometimes, the problem does not solve with just praying. One need to wait for opportunity to meet a genuine human being/tantrik to be freed from black magic.

Every coin has two sides. If there are good women, there are also worst women on this earth. So do men but it’s men’s world, following life long practices, which will also take life long efforts to stop. One should follow the activities of our society, which fits the most. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:" /><o:p></o:p> If you see women behind every successful man, you will also find women who destroyed the man. So one should respect women with discrimination. It is up to women, how they want themselves to be treated by men. Women can affect the atmosphere very positively by wise placement, good manners etc. but not otherwise. Flowing water by force can cause destruction without borders of limitation.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Today, you will find more women than men, are visiting black magician to get (back) their lovers by any means (vashikaran). One should not support anything blindly without even knowing the truth. It is duty of every human being to point out the mistake of others in a dignified manner. <o:p></o:p> Depression are mainly caused by unwanted events or non-fulfillment of our wishes/dreams. It is also linked with your past actions. Whatever be the reason, without the intense prayers one cannot sail through any troubled waters.

I visited sarangpur temple of hanumanji but no results. I am still searching for a genuine tantrik/sadhu/saint who can solve the ghost problem.

Is tantrik is necessary to stop ghost spells ? The faith in god should be sufficient to overcoem such evil side of our civil socieity. We have many saints/sadhus in India who can guide the required destination.

There are many Gurus who have died of diseases. Of course you can say their karma, God’s will, their mission completed or whatever. And at the end everything, it can be generalized to karma, so comes forth the generalized concept of do good karma and reap good results. Finish. We need no specialized branches of knowledge then. Again, its like saying - dude, you have got cancer, because you had bad karmas and forget the doctors. Just chant mahamantra and I promise you, you will get completely cured at the end of the month, because cancer is dark energy and mantra is light. remove darkness from your life and you will get cured.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:" /><o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Specific problems need specific solutions. And faith in the lord and chanting his name can go side by side. But may not necessarily be a full fledged solution in itself. One need to know why he is suffering and try to find out solution for himself.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Chant the lords name and be in the company of good people are some goody goody preaching that are ok to lead a normal balanced life. But what you are "promising" here is not exactly the solution to the person's problem. One must get to the root cause of his suffering to avoid and improvise him.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> When the entire community do something wrong, one doubt whether they are really wrong. It is a matter of inclination where one’s mind behave. If a person is inclined towards crime, he is likely to apply his criminal ideas in his life and become a criminal. To make him understand what will be the consequences of committing crime is important and unless he knows about reaction of his every action, he will not be stopped from doing the crime. Similarly, every man must know about the results of his bad karma and avoid it. Just to know about law of karma and not to take it seriously, is like criminals forget about punishments and continue their old business.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Your suffering can be an eye opening or disguised push towards god realization. But at the same time, you can not grow spiritually on the death bed where you have constant threat to your life. One need to remove the obstacles from his spiritual path by knowing the reasons for his suffering in detail. A sick man will always think of his sickness and spend much of his time/attention to pray god to get rid of his sickness.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> This life is not certain. Any time, any time can happen and still we do not know the exact reason. It is only the time that god has given us, not just to live, but for more than that. We have no right to deprive others from doing religious or righteous acts and claim that its their past karma. This world will change by itself, not to let the others ask questions like “why me ?” for your acts.<o:p></o:p>

Karma is the necessary connection between our past, present, and future. In this material world we refer many terms to express ourselves exactly and understand others point of view. When we try to understand why we are suffering, casual understanding of karma does not make us realize about every reaction (suffering) and it's related past action. The example pendulum is not appropriate with regards to Karma since there are many actions simultaneously taking place (even thoughts) and the time taking for every reaction is not same. It is assumed that wininng lotteries or accidental deaths are the results the prarabdha( past lives) but both are results of different actions and can not be linked.