Guest guest Report post Posted November 17, 2006 well, welcome comrade left coast East Bayer.... there use to be a few bay area folks on here but they all seem to have gone walk-a-bout.... been here in oakland meself the last..17 yrs..egads... cheers fraggle Sharon Murch Nov 17, 2006 3:01 PM Re: thanxfernuthin Live in San Leandro, work in Castro Valley here. My daughter works in Berkeley. Sharon fraggle <EBbrewpunx Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 12:04:04 PMRe: thanxfernuthin Same Oakland.... work in Berkeley cheers fraggle Sharon Murch Nov 15, 2006 8:35 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Where are you fraggle? I'm in the east San Francisco Bay area. fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comWednesday, November 15, 2006 4:16:14 PMRe: thanxfernuthin i go fer a walk generally at lunch..but always seem to end up at Cody's bookstore..which trust..it can be a bad thing!!! Carolyn MFEMF Nov 15, 2006 3:11 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Ironically, I don't get as much exercise now that we've moved to the stix, but in Minneapolis, I used to love to do the long walk on the pedestrian bridge over the Mississippi, then along the bank, then back over and back to my office. If I didn't have any issues to deal with at work, I would go out walking at lunch no matter how cold or nasty it was, but it would be nearly impossible for me to do what you're attempting-- good luck!!! carolyn - fraggle @gro ups.com Wednesday, November 15, 2006 5:42 PM Re: thanxfernuthin i keep telling myself "one day a week i'm going to walk to work" then i wake up..its still dark out..its chilly and that 7 miles just seems impossible.. so just pull the covers back over my head.. someday i hope i hope i hope... Carolyn MFEMF Nov 15, 2006 1:19 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Well, it was more a matter of what I stopped eating when I went from vegetarian to vegan. As a "vegetarian, " I was eating lots and lots of ice cream, pizza, milk, buttermilk, cottage cheese, donuts, and huge greasy cheese omelets. Otherwise, my diet was pretty good--fruits, veggies, whole grains, hummus, lentils, beans, nuts, nut butters, etc., so when I subtracted all the dairy and eggs, pounds fell off. Oh, and I did start walking 2-3 miles a day several days a week at about the same time, so I'm sure that had a big impact too. There are lots of good vegan things around now to eat, but mostly they're expensive processed foods. I treat myself once in a while, but mostly, I try to eat close to the plant, if you know what I mean ;-) carolyn History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher History repeats itself and each time the price gets higherHistory repeats itself and each time the price gets higher History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 18, 2006 fraggle <EBbrewpunx Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 2:23:38 PMRe: thanxfernuthin don't sweat i just loathe their return policy all the chains do it.. pain in the *ss to work with you'd sell books, and then 6 months later you'd get half of back.... helluva way t o run a business plus, on a personal level..i like to hold the book i'm buying... i like to read it a bit... i'm odd that way fraggle Sharon Murch Nov 17, 2006 3:09 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Dare I ask why? fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comFriday, November 17, 2006 11:02:08 AMRe: thanxfernuthin sadly...i have a bias against Amazon... which is bad, considering they constitute a large portion of my companies business.... History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 18, 2006 Oh well, I'm glad they weren't doing something really bad. I don't deal with return policies because I love books. I love to hold them, look at them, I love the way they feel and the way they smell (the new ones anyway ... don't really like used ones). Thanks for clearing it up. I'd hate to have to give up my addiction. Sharon fraggle <EBbrewpunx Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 2:23:38 PMRe: thanxfernuthin don't sweat i just loathe their return policy all the chains do it.. pain in the *ss to work with you'd sell books, and then 6 months later you'd get half of back.... helluva way t o run a business plus, on a personal level..i like to hold the book i'm buying... i like to read it a bit... i'm odd that way fraggle Sharon Murch Nov 17, 2006 3:09 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Dare I ask why? fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comFriday, November 17, 2006 11:02:08 AMRe: thanxfernuthin sadly...i have a bias against Amazon... which is bad, considering they constitute a large portion of my companies business.... History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 18, 2006 Been hereabouts since 1968 myself. My parents moved me here, of course. I thought it was a great idea at the time, but I've since come to wonder just why anybody would choose to live on a major fault PLUS pay way more to do it than you would pay somewhere else more stable! Sharon fraggle <EBbrewpunx Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 2:32:07 PMRe: thanxfernuthin well, welcome comrade left coast East Bayer.... there use to be a few bay area folks on here but they all seem to have gone walk-a-bout. ... been here in oakland meself the last..17 yrs..egads.. . cheers fraggle Sharon Murch Nov 17, 2006 3:01 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Live in San Leandro, work in Castro Valley here. My daughter works in Berkeley. Sharon fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comThursday, November 16, 2006 12:04:04 PMRe: thanxfernuthin Same Oakland.... work in Berkeley cheers fraggle Sharon Murch Nov 15, 2006 8:35 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Where are you fraggle? I'm in the east San Francisco Bay area. fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comWednesday, November 15, 2006 4:16:14 PMRe: thanxfernuthin i go fer a walk generally at lunch..but always seem to end up at Cody's bookstore..which trust..it can be a bad thing!!! Carolyn MFEMF Nov 15, 2006 3:11 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Ironically, I don't get as much exercise now that we've moved to the stix, but in Minneapolis, I used to love to do the long walk on the pedestrian bridge over the Mississippi, then along the bank, then back over and back to my office. If I didn't have any issues to deal with at work, I would go out walking at lunch no matter how cold or nasty it was, but it would be nearly impossible for me to do what you're attempting-- good luck!!! carolyn - fraggle @gro ups.com Wednesday, November 15, 2006 5:42 PM Re: thanxfernuthin i keep telling myself "one day a week i'm going to walk to work" then i wake up..its still dark out..its chilly and that 7 miles just seems impossible.. so just pull the covers back over my head.. someday i hope i hope i hope... Carolyn MFEMF Nov 15, 2006 1:19 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Well, it was more a matter of what I stopped eating when I went from vegetarian to vegan. As a "vegetarian, " I was eating lots and lots of ice cream, pizza, milk, buttermilk, cottage cheese, donuts, and huge greasy cheese omelets. Otherwise, my diet was pretty good--fruits, veggies, whole grains, hummus, lentils, beans, nuts, nut butters, etc., so when I subtracted all the dairy and eggs, pounds fell off. Oh, and I did start walking 2-3 miles a day several days a week at about the same time, so I'm sure that had a big impact too. There are lots of good vegan things around now to eat, but mostly they're expensive processed foods. I treat myself once in a while, but mostly, I try to eat close to the plant, if you know what I mean ;-) carolyn History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher History repeats itself and each time the price gets higherHistory repeats itself and each time the price gets higher History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 18, 2006 Hey fraggle, do you know what beast is in pig latin? east baaaaaaay! haha fraggle <EBbrewpunx Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 2:32:07 PMRe: thanxfernuthin well, welcome comrade left coast East Bayer.... there use to be a few bay area folks on here but they all seem to have gone walk-a-bout. ... been here in oakland meself the last..17 yrs..egads.. . cheers fraggle Sharon Murch Nov 17, 2006 3:01 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Live in San Leandro, work in Castro Valley here. My daughter works in Berkeley. Sharon fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comThursday, November 16, 2006 12:04:04 PMRe: thanxfernuthin Same Oakland.... work in Berkeley cheers fraggle Sharon Murch Nov 15, 2006 8:35 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Where are you fraggle? I'm in the east San Francisco Bay area. fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comWednesday, November 15, 2006 4:16:14 PMRe: thanxfernuthin i go fer a walk generally at lunch..but always seem to end up at Cody's bookstore..which trust..it can be a bad thing!!! Carolyn MFEMF Nov 15, 2006 3:11 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Ironically, I don't get as much exercise now that we've moved to the stix, but in Minneapolis, I used to love to do the long walk on the pedestrian bridge over the Mississippi, then along the bank, then back over and back to my office. If I didn't have any issues to deal with at work, I would go out walking at lunch no matter how cold or nasty it was, but it would be nearly impossible for me to do what you're attempting-- good luck!!! carolyn - fraggle @gro ups.com Wednesday, November 15, 2006 5:42 PM Re: thanxfernuthin i keep telling myself "one day a week i'm going to walk to work" then i wake up..its still dark out..its chilly and that 7 miles just seems impossible.. so just pull the covers back over my head.. someday i hope i hope i hope... Carolyn MFEMF Nov 15, 2006 1:19 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Well, it was more a matter of what I stopped eating when I went from vegetarian to vegan. As a "vegetarian, " I was eating lots and lots of ice cream, pizza, milk, buttermilk, cottage cheese, donuts, and huge greasy cheese omelets. Otherwise, my diet was pretty good--fruits, veggies, whole grains, hummus, lentils, beans, nuts, nut butters, etc., so when I subtracted all the dairy and eggs, pounds fell off. Oh, and I did start walking 2-3 miles a day several days a week at about the same time, so I'm sure that had a big impact too. There are lots of good vegan things around now to eat, but mostly they're expensive processed foods. I treat myself once in a while, but mostly, I try to eat close to the plant, if you know what I mean ;-) carolyn History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher History repeats itself and each time the price gets higherHistory repeats itself and each time the price gets higher History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 18, 2006 Plenty of room over here you two! a bit more geologically (if not politically ) stable too! The Valley Vegan.................Sharon Murch <compassion2grace wrote: Been hereabouts since 1968 myself. My parents moved me here, of course. I thought it was a great idea at the time, but I've since come to wonder just why anybody would choose to live on a major fault PLUS pay way more to do it than you would pay somewhere else more stable! Sharon fraggle <EBbrewpunx (AT) earthlink (DOT) com> Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 2:32:07 PMRe: thanxfernuthin well, welcome comrade left coast East Bayer.... there use to be a few bay area folks on here but they all seem to have gone walk-a-bout. ... been here in oakland meself the last..17 yrs..egads.. .. cheers fraggle Sharon Murch Nov 17, 2006 3:01 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Live in San Leandro, work in Castro Valley here. My daughter works in Berkeley. Sharon fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comThursday, November 16, 2006 12:04:04 PMRe: thanxfernuthin Same Oakland.... work in Berkeley cheers fraggle Sharon Murch Nov 15, 2006 8:35 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Where are you fraggle? I'm in the east San Francisco Bay area. fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comSent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 4:16:14 PMRe: thanxfernuthin i go fer a walk generally at lunch..but always seem to end up at Cody's bookstore..which trust..it can be a bad thing!!! Carolyn MFEMF Nov 15, 2006 3:11 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Ironically, I don't get as much exercise now that we've moved to the stix, but in Minneapolis, I used to love to do the long walk on the pedestrian bridge over the Mississippi, then along the bank, then back over and back to my office. If I didn't have any issues to deal with at work, I would go out walking at lunch no matter how cold or nasty it was, but it would be nearly impossible for me to do what you're attempting-- good luck!!! carolyn - fraggle @gro ups.com Wednesday, November 15, 2006 5:42 PM Re: thanxfernuthin i keep telling myself "one day a week i'm going to walk to work" then i wake up..its still dark out..its chilly and that 7 miles just seems impossible.. so just pull the covers back over my head.. someday i hope i hope i hope... Carolyn MFEMF Nov 15, 2006 1:19 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Well, it was more a matter of what I stopped eating when I went from vegetarian to vegan. As a "vegetarian, " I was eating lots and lots of ice cream, pizza, milk, buttermilk, cottage cheese, donuts, and huge greasy cheese omelets. Otherwise, my diet was pretty good--fruits, veggies, whole grains, hummus, lentils, beans, nuts, nut butters, etc., so when I subtracted all the dairy and eggs, pounds fell off. Oh, and I did start walking 2-3 miles a day several days a week at about the same time, so I'm sure that had a big impact too. There are lots of good vegan things around now to eat, but mostly they're expensive processed foods. I treat myself once in a while, but mostly, I try to eat close to the plant, if you know what I mean ;-) carolyn History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher History repeats itself and each time the price gets higherHistory repeats itself and each time the price gets higher History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher Peter H Copy addresses and emails from any email account to Mail - quick, easy and free. Do it now... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 19, 2006 Ah, that is my daughter's dream ... to move to England. She actually searches out properties for sale through the internet. She is 12 year old, by the way. But if my dogs can't go, I can't go. I've been thinking maybe the desert. I dunno why, but in my more mature years I have developed a real love for the desert. Sharon peter VV <swpgh01 Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 8:33:06 AMRe: thanxfernuthin Plenty of room over here you two! a bit more geologically (if not politically ) stable too! The Valley Vegan....... ......... .Sharon Murch <compassion2grace@ > wrote: Been hereabouts since 1968 myself. My parents moved me here, of course. I thought it was a great idea at the time, but I've since come to wonder just why anybody would choose to live on a major fault PLUS pay way more to do it than you would pay somewhere else more stable! Sharon fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comFriday, November 17, 2006 2:32:07 PMRe: thanxfernuthin well, welcome comrade left coast East Bayer.... there use to be a few bay area folks on here but they all seem to have gone walk-a-bout. ... been here in oakland meself the last..17 yrs..egads.. . cheers fraggle Sharon Murch Nov 17, 2006 3:01 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Live in San Leandro, work in Castro Valley here. My daughter works in Berkeley. Sharon fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comThursday, November 16, 2006 12:04:04 PMRe: thanxfernuthin Same Oakland.... work in Berkeley cheers fraggle Sharon Murch Nov 15, 2006 8:35 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Where are you fraggle? I'm in the east San Francisco Bay area. fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comWednesday, November 15, 2006 4:16:14 PMRe: thanxfernuthin i go fer a walk generally at lunch..but always seem to end up at Cody's bookstore..which trust..it can be a bad thing!!! Carolyn MFEMF Nov 15, 2006 3:11 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Ironically, I don't get as much exercise now that we've moved to the stix, but in Minneapolis, I used to love to do the long walk on the pedestrian bridge over the Mississippi, then along the bank, then back over and back to my office. If I didn't have any issues to deal with at work, I would go out walking at lunch no matter how cold or nasty it was, but it would be nearly impossible for me to do what you're attempting-- good luck!!! carolyn - fraggle @gro ups.com Wednesday, November 15, 2006 5:42 PM Re: thanxfernuthin i keep telling myself "one day a week i'm going to walk to work" then i wake up..its still dark out..its chilly and that 7 miles just seems impossible.. so just pull the covers back over my head.. someday i hope i hope i hope... Carolyn MFEMF Nov 15, 2006 1:19 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Well, it was more a matter of what I stopped eating when I went from vegetarian to vegan. As a "vegetarian, " I was eating lots and lots of ice cream, pizza, milk, buttermilk, cottage cheese, donuts, and huge greasy cheese omelets. Otherwise, my diet was pretty good--fruits, veggies, whole grains, hummus, lentils, beans, nuts, nut butters, etc., so when I subtracted all the dairy and eggs, pounds fell off. Oh, and I did start walking 2-3 miles a day several days a week at about the same time, so I'm sure that had a big impact too. There are lots of good vegan things around now to eat, but mostly they're expensive processed foods. I treat myself once in a while, but mostly, I try to eat close to the plant, if you know what I mean ;-) carolyn History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher History repeats itself and each time the price gets higherHistory repeats itself and each time the price gets higher History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher Peter H Copy addresses and emails from any email account to Mail - quick, easy and free. Do it now... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 19, 2006 I think I would miss all the greenery. The valley Vegan..............Sharon Murch <compassion2grace wrote: Ah, that is my daughter's dream ... to move to England. She actually searches out properties for sale through the internet. She is 12 year old, by the way. But if my dogs can't go, I can't go. I've been thinking maybe the desert. I dunno why, but in my more mature years I have developed a real love for the desert. Sharon peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 8:33:06 AMRe: thanxfernuthin Plenty of room over here you two! a bit more geologically (if not politically ) stable too! The Valley Vegan....... ......... .Sharon Murch <compassion2grace@ > wrote: Been hereabouts since 1968 myself. My parents moved me here, of course. I thought it was a great idea at the time, but I've since come to wonder just why anybody would choose to live on a major fault PLUS pay way more to do it than you would pay somewhere else more stable! Sharon fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comFriday, November 17, 2006 2:32:07 PMRe: thanxfernuthin well, welcome comrade left coast East Bayer.... there use to be a few bay area folks on here but they all seem to have gone walk-a-bout. ... been here in oakland meself the last..17 yrs..egads.. . cheers fraggle Sharon Murch Nov 17, 2006 3:01 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Live in San Leandro, work in Castro Valley here. My daughter works in Berkeley. Sharon fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comThursday, November 16, 2006 12:04:04 PMRe: thanxfernuthin Same Oakland.... work in Berkeley cheers fraggle Sharon Murch Nov 15, 2006 8:35 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Where are you fraggle? I'm in the east San Francisco Bay area. fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comWednesday, November 15, 2006 4:16:14 PMRe: thanxfernuthin i go fer a walk generally at lunch..but always seem to end up at Cody's bookstore..which trust..it can be a bad thing!!! Carolyn MFEMF Nov 15, 2006 3:11 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Ironically, I don't get as much exercise now that we've moved to the stix, but in Minneapolis, I used to love to do the long walk on the pedestrian bridge over the Mississippi, then along the bank, then back over and back to my office. If I didn't have any issues to deal with at work, I would go out walking at lunch no matter how cold or nasty it was, but it would be nearly impossible for me to do what you're attempting-- good luck!!! carolyn - fraggle @gro ups.com Wednesday, November 15, 2006 5:42 PM Re: thanxfernuthin i keep telling myself "one day a week i'm going to walk to work" then i wake up..its still dark out..its chilly and that 7 miles just seems impossible.. so just pull the covers back over my head.. someday i hope i hope i hope... Carolyn MFEMF Nov 15, 2006 1:19 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Well, it was more a matter of what I stopped eating when I went from vegetarian to vegan. As a "vegetarian, " I was eating lots and lots of ice cream, pizza, milk, buttermilk, cottage cheese, donuts, and huge greasy cheese omelets. Otherwise, my diet was pretty good--fruits, veggies, whole grains, hummus, lentils, beans, nuts, nut butters, etc., so when I subtracted all the dairy and eggs, pounds fell off. Oh, and I did start walking 2-3 miles a day several days a week at about the same time, so I'm sure that had a big impact too. There are lots of good vegan things around now to eat, but mostly they're expensive processed foods. I treat myself once in a while, but mostly, I try to eat close to the plant, if you know what I mean ;-) carolyn History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher History repeats itself and each time the price gets higherHistory repeats itself and each time the price gets higher History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher Peter H Copy addresses and emails from any email account to Mail - quick, easy and free. Do it now... Peter H Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 19, 2006 Hi Peter / Sharon Me too. I love trees - the more the better. Jo - peter VV Sunday, November 19, 2006 8:45 AM Re: thanxfernuthin I think I would miss all the greenery. The valley Vegan..............Sharon Murch <compassion2grace wrote: Ah, that is my daughter's dream ... to move to England. She actually searches out properties for sale through the internet. She is 12 year old, by the way. But if my dogs can't go, I can't go. I've been thinking maybe the desert. I dunno why, but in my more mature years I have developed a real love for the desert. Sharon peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 8:33:06 AMRe: thanxfernuthin Plenty of room over here you two! a bit more geologically (if not politically ) stable too! The Valley Vegan....... ......... .Sharon Murch <compassion2grace@ > wrote: Been hereabouts since 1968 myself. My parents moved me here, of course. I thought it was a great idea at the time, but I've since come to wonder just why anybody would choose to live on a major fault PLUS pay way more to do it than you would pay somewhere else more stable! Sharon fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comFriday, November 17, 2006 2:32:07 PMRe: thanxfernuthin well, welcome comrade left coast East Bayer.... there use to be a few bay area folks on here but they all seem to have gone walk-a-bout. ... been here in oakland meself the last..17 yrs..egads.. . cheers fraggle Sharon Murch Nov 17, 2006 3:01 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Live in San Leandro, work in Castro Valley here. My daughter works in Berkeley. Sharon fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comThursday, November 16, 2006 12:04:04 PMRe: thanxfernuthin Same Oakland.... work in Berkeley cheers fraggle Sharon Murch Nov 15, 2006 8:35 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Where are you fraggle? I'm in the east San Francisco Bay area. fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comWednesday, November 15, 2006 4:16:14 PMRe: thanxfernuthin i go fer a walk generally at lunch..but always seem to end up at Cody's bookstore..which trust..it can be a bad thing!!! Carolyn MFEMF Nov 15, 2006 3:11 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Ironically, I don't get as much exercise now that we've moved to the stix, but in Minneapolis, I used to love to do the long walk on the pedestrian bridge over the Mississippi, then along the bank, then back over and back to my office. If I didn't have any issues to deal with at work, I would go out walking at lunch no matter how cold or nasty it was, but it would be nearly impossible for me to do what you're attempting-- good luck!!! carolyn - fraggle @gro ups.com Wednesday, November 15, 2006 5:42 PM Re: thanxfernuthin i keep telling myself "one day a week i'm going to walk to work" then i wake up..its still dark out..its chilly and that 7 miles just seems impossible.. so just pull the covers back over my head.. someday i hope i hope i hope... Carolyn MFEMF Nov 15, 2006 1:19 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Well, it was more a matter of what I stopped eating when I went from vegetarian to vegan. As a "vegetarian, " I was eating lots and lots of ice cream, pizza, milk, buttermilk, cottage cheese, donuts, and huge greasy cheese omelets. Otherwise, my diet was pretty good--fruits, veggies, whole grains, hummus, lentils, beans, nuts, nut butters, etc., so when I subtracted all the dairy and eggs, pounds fell off. Oh, and I did start walking 2-3 miles a day several days a week at about the same time, so I'm sure that had a big impact too. There are lots of good vegan things around now to eat, but mostly they're expensive processed foods. I treat myself once in a while, but mostly, I try to eat close to the plant, if you know what I mean ;-) carolyn History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher History repeats itself and each time the price gets higherHistory repeats itself and each time the price gets higher History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher Peter H Copy addresses and emails from any email account to Mail - quick, easy and free. Do it now... Peter H Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 19, 2006 Perhaps. The desert has its own beauties, though. My favorite place of all is the ocean, but the desert is generally less expensive! peter VV <swpgh01 Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 12:45:50 AMRe: thanxfernuthin I think I would miss all the greenery. The valley Vegan....... .......Sharon Murch <compassion2grace@ > wrote: Ah, that is my daughter's dream ... to move to England. She actually searches out properties for sale through the internet. She is 12 year old, by the way. But if my dogs can't go, I can't go. I've been thinking maybe the desert. I dunno why, but in my more mature years I have developed a real love for the desert. Sharon peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com>@gro ups.comSaturday, November 18, 2006 8:33:06 AMRe: thanxfernuthin Plenty of room over here you two! a bit more geologically (if not politically ) stable too! The Valley Vegan....... ......... .Sharon Murch <compassion2grace@ > wrote: Been hereabouts since 1968 myself. My parents moved me here, of course. I thought it was a great idea at the time, but I've since come to wonder just why anybody would choose to live on a major fault PLUS pay way more to do it than you would pay somewhere else more stable! Sharon fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comFriday, November 17, 2006 2:32:07 PMRe: thanxfernuthin well, welcome comrade left coast East Bayer.... there use to be a few bay area folks on here but they all seem to have gone walk-a-bout. ... been here in oakland meself the last..17 yrs..egads.. . cheers fraggle Sharon Murch Nov 17, 2006 3:01 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Live in San Leandro, work in Castro Valley here. My daughter works in Berkeley. Sharon fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comThursday, November 16, 2006 12:04:04 PMRe: thanxfernuthin Same Oakland.... work in Berkeley cheers fraggle Sharon Murch Nov 15, 2006 8:35 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Where are you fraggle? I'm in the east San Francisco Bay area. fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comWednesday, November 15, 2006 4:16:14 PMRe: thanxfernuthin i go fer a walk generally at lunch..but always seem to end up at Cody's bookstore..which trust..it can be a bad thing!!! Carolyn MFEMF Nov 15, 2006 3:11 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Ironically, I don't get as much exercise now that we've moved to the stix, but in Minneapolis, I used to love to do the long walk on the pedestrian bridge over the Mississippi, then along the bank, then back over and back to my office. If I didn't have any issues to deal with at work, I would go out walking at lunch no matter how cold or nasty it was, but it would be nearly impossible for me to do what you're attempting-- good luck!!! carolyn - fraggle @gro ups.com Wednesday, November 15, 2006 5:42 PM Re: thanxfernuthin i keep telling myself "one day a week i'm going to walk to work" then i wake up..its still dark out..its chilly and that 7 miles just seems impossible.. so just pull the covers back over my head.. someday i hope i hope i hope... Carolyn MFEMF Nov 15, 2006 1:19 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Well, it was more a matter of what I stopped eating when I went from vegetarian to vegan. As a "vegetarian, " I was eating lots and lots of ice cream, pizza, milk, buttermilk, cottage cheese, donuts, and huge greasy cheese omelets. Otherwise, my diet was pretty good--fruits, veggies, whole grains, hummus, lentils, beans, nuts, nut butters, etc., so when I subtracted all the dairy and eggs, pounds fell off. Oh, and I did start walking 2-3 miles a day several days a week at about the same time, so I'm sure that had a big impact too. There are lots of good vegan things around now to eat, but mostly they're expensive processed foods. I treat myself once in a while, but mostly, I try to eat close to the plant, if you know what I mean ;-) carolyn History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher History repeats itself and each time the price gets higherHistory repeats itself and each time the price gets higher History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher Peter H Copy addresses and emails from any email account to Mail - quick, easy and free. Do it now... Peter H Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 20, 2006 cuz the Bay Area is a strip of civilization surrounded by a sea of madness... as is often said, the midwest starts at the last BART station Sharon Murch Nov 17, 2006 8:59 PM Re: thanxfernuthin Been hereabouts since 1968 myself. My parents moved me here, of course. I thought it was a great idea at the time, but I've since come to wonder just why anybody would choose to live on a major fault PLUS pay way more to do it than you would pay somewhere else more stable! Sharon fraggle <EBbrewpunx Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 2:32:07 PMRe: thanxfernuthin well, welcome comrade left coast East Bayer.... there use to be a few bay area folks on here but they all seem to have gone walk-a-bout. ... been here in oakland meself the last..17 yrs..egads.. . cheers fraggle Sharon Murch Nov 17, 2006 3:01 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Live in San Leandro, work in Castro Valley here. My daughter works in Berkeley. Sharon fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comThursday, November 16, 2006 12:04:04 PMRe: thanxfernuthin Same Oakland.... work in Berkeley cheers fraggle Sharon Murch Nov 15, 2006 8:35 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Where are you fraggle? I'm in the east San Francisco Bay area. fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comWednesday, November 15, 2006 4:16:14 PMRe: thanxfernuthin i go fer a walk generally at lunch..but always seem to end up at Cody's bookstore..which trust..it can be a bad thing!!! Carolyn MFEMF Nov 15, 2006 3:11 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Ironically, I don't get as much exercise now that we've moved to the stix, but in Minneapolis, I used to love to do the long walk on the pedestrian bridge over the Mississippi, then along the bank, then back over and back to my office. If I didn't have any issues to deal with at work, I would go out walking at lunch no matter how cold or nasty it was, but it would be nearly impossible for me to do what you're attempting-- good luck!!! carolyn - fraggle @gro ups.com Wednesday, November 15, 2006 5:42 PM Re: thanxfernuthin i keep telling myself "one day a week i'm going to walk to work" then i wake up..its still dark out..its chilly and that 7 miles just seems impossible.. so just pull the covers back over my head.. someday i hope i hope i hope... Carolyn MFEMF Nov 15, 2006 1:19 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Well, it was more a matter of what I stopped eating when I went from vegetarian to vegan. As a "vegetarian, " I was eating lots and lots of ice cream, pizza, milk, buttermilk, cottage cheese, donuts, and huge greasy cheese omelets. Otherwise, my diet was pretty good--fruits, veggies, whole grains, hummus, lentils, beans, nuts, nut butters, etc., so when I subtracted all the dairy and eggs, pounds fell off. Oh, and I did start walking 2-3 miles a day several days a week at about the same time, so I'm sure that had a big impact too. There are lots of good vegan things around now to eat, but mostly they're expensive processed foods. I treat myself once in a while, but mostly, I try to eat close to the plant, if you know what I mean ;-) carolyn History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher History repeats itself and each time the price gets higherHistory repeats itself and each time the price gets higher History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 20, 2006 i think i want to just moat off my neck of the woods.... we'll see when i return to merry ol england next spring might have to just hide in yer shed Peter VV assuming i ever get tix and i'm allowed on a plane.................. peter VV Nov 18, 2006 11:33 AM Re: thanxfernuthin Plenty of room over here you two! a bit more geologically (if not politically ) stable too! The Valley Vegan.................Sharon Murch <compassion2grace wrote: Been hereabouts since 1968 myself. My parents moved me here, of course. I thought it was a great idea at the time, but I've since come to wonder just why anybody would choose to live on a major fault PLUS pay way more to do it than you would pay somewhere else more stable! Sharon fraggle <EBbrewpunx (AT) earthlink (DOT) com> Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 2:32:07 PMRe: thanxfernuthin well, welcome comrade left coast East Bayer.... there use to be a few bay area folks on here but they all seem to have gone walk-a-bout. ... been here in oakland meself the last..17 yrs..egads.. . cheers fraggle Sharon Murch Nov 17, 2006 3:01 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Live in San Leandro, work in Castro Valley here. My daughter works in Berkeley. Sharon fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comThursday, November 16, 2006 12:04:04 PMRe: thanxfernuthin Same Oakland.... work in Berkeley cheers fraggle Sharon Murch Nov 15, 2006 8:35 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Where are you fraggle? I'm in the east San Francisco Bay area. fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comWednesday, November 15, 2006 4:16:14 PMRe: thanxfernuthin i go fer a walk generally at lunch..but always seem to end up at Cody's bookstore..which trust..it can be a bad thing!!! Carolyn MFEMF Nov 15, 2006 3:11 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Ironically, I don't get as much exercise now that we've moved to the stix, but in Minneapolis, I used to love to do the long walk on the pedestrian bridge over the Mississippi, then along the bank, then back over and back to my office. If I didn't have any issues to deal with at work, I would go out walking at lunch no matter how cold or nasty it was, but it would be nearly impossible for me to do what you're attempting-- good luck!!! carolyn - fraggle @gro ups.com Wednesday, November 15, 2006 5:42 PM Re: thanxfernuthin i keep telling myself "one day a week i'm going to walk to work" then i wake up..its still dark out..its chilly and that 7 miles just seems impossible.. so just pull the covers back over my head.. someday i hope i hope i hope... Carolyn MFEMF Nov 15, 2006 1:19 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Well, it was more a matter of what I stopped eating when I went from vegetarian to vegan. As a "vegetarian, " I was eating lots and lots of ice cream, pizza, milk, buttermilk, cottage cheese, donuts, and huge greasy cheese omelets. Otherwise, my diet was pretty good--fruits, veggies, whole grains, hummus, lentils, beans, nuts, nut butters, etc., so when I subtracted all the dairy and eggs, pounds fell off. Oh, and I did start walking 2-3 miles a day several days a week at about the same time, so I'm sure that had a big impact too. There are lots of good vegan things around now to eat, but mostly they're expensive processed foods. I treat myself once in a while, but mostly, I try to eat close to the plant, if you know what I mean ;-) carolyn History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher History repeats itself and each time the price gets higherHistory repeats itself and each time the price gets higher History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher Peter H Copy addresses and emails from any email account to Mail - quick, easy and free. Do it now... History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 20, 2006 I had friends who were into the annual Beast music fest here... Sharon Murch Nov 18, 2006 10:34 AM Re: thanxfernuthin Hey fraggle, do you know what beast is in pig latin? east baaaaaaay! haha fraggle <EBbrewpunx Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 2:32:07 PMRe: thanxfernuthin well, welcome comrade left coast East Bayer.... there use to be a few bay area folks on here but they all seem to have gone walk-a-bout. ... been here in oakland meself the last..17 yrs..egads.. . cheers fraggle Sharon Murch Nov 17, 2006 3:01 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Live in San Leandro, work in Castro Valley here. My daughter works in Berkeley. Sharon fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comThursday, November 16, 2006 12:04:04 PMRe: thanxfernuthin Same Oakland.... work in Berkeley cheers fraggle Sharon Murch Nov 15, 2006 8:35 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Where are you fraggle? I'm in the east San Francisco Bay area. fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comWednesday, November 15, 2006 4:16:14 PMRe: thanxfernuthin i go fer a walk generally at lunch..but always seem to end up at Cody's bookstore..which trust..it can be a bad thing!!! Carolyn MFEMF Nov 15, 2006 3:11 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Ironically, I don't get as much exercise now that we've moved to the stix, but in Minneapolis, I used to love to do the long walk on the pedestrian bridge over the Mississippi, then along the bank, then back over and back to my office. If I didn't have any issues to deal with at work, I would go out walking at lunch no matter how cold or nasty it was, but it would be nearly impossible for me to do what you're attempting-- good luck!!! carolyn - fraggle @gro ups.com Wednesday, November 15, 2006 5:42 PM Re: thanxfernuthin i keep telling myself "one day a week i'm going to walk to work" then i wake up..its still dark out..its chilly and that 7 miles just seems impossible.. so just pull the covers back over my head.. someday i hope i hope i hope... Carolyn MFEMF Nov 15, 2006 1:19 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Well, it was more a matter of what I stopped eating when I went from vegetarian to vegan. As a "vegetarian, " I was eating lots and lots of ice cream, pizza, milk, buttermilk, cottage cheese, donuts, and huge greasy cheese omelets. Otherwise, my diet was pretty good--fruits, veggies, whole grains, hummus, lentils, beans, nuts, nut butters, etc., so when I subtracted all the dairy and eggs, pounds fell off. Oh, and I did start walking 2-3 miles a day several days a week at about the same time, so I'm sure that had a big impact too. There are lots of good vegan things around now to eat, but mostly they're expensive processed foods. I treat myself once in a while, but mostly, I try to eat close to the plant, if you know what I mean ;-) carolyn History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher History repeats itself and each time the price gets higherHistory repeats itself and each time the price gets higher History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 20, 2006 i luv camping in the desert... use to go to Death Valley and the mojave every year. but, fer myself, dunno if i could actually LIVE there... i'm too much of a city fraggle.... Sharon Murch Nov 18, 2006 7:50 PM Re: thanxfernuthin Ah, that is my daughter's dream ... to move to England. She actually searches out properties for sale through the internet. She is 12 year old, by the way. But if my dogs can't go, I can't go. I've been thinking maybe the desert. I dunno why, but in my more mature years I have developed a real love for the desert. Sharon History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 20, 2006 :-) fraggle <EBbrewpunx Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 9:53:00 AMRe: thanxfernuthin cuz the Bay Area is a strip of civilization surrounded by a sea of madness... as is often said, the midwest starts at the last BART station Sharon Murch Nov 17, 2006 8:59 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Been hereabouts since 1968 myself. My parents moved me here, of course. I thought it was a great idea at the time, but I've since come to wonder just why anybody would choose to live on a major fault PLUS pay way more to do it than you would pay somewhere else more stable! Sharon fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comFriday, November 17, 2006 2:32:07 PMRe: thanxfernuthin well, welcome comrade left coast East Bayer.... there use to be a few bay area folks on here but they all seem to have gone walk-a-bout. ... been here in oakland meself the last..17 yrs..egads.. . cheers fraggle Sharon Murch Nov 17, 2006 3:01 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Live in San Leandro, work in Castro Valley here. My daughter works in Berkeley. Sharon fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comThursday, November 16, 2006 12:04:04 PMRe: thanxfernuthin Same Oakland.... work in Berkeley cheers fraggle Sharon Murch Nov 15, 2006 8:35 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Where are you fraggle? I'm in the east San Francisco Bay area. fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comWednesday, November 15, 2006 4:16:14 PMRe: thanxfernuthin i go fer a walk generally at lunch..but always seem to end up at Cody's bookstore..which trust..it can be a bad thing!!! Carolyn MFEMF Nov 15, 2006 3:11 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Ironically, I don't get as much exercise now that we've moved to the stix, but in Minneapolis, I used to love to do the long walk on the pedestrian bridge over the Mississippi, then along the bank, then back over and back to my office. If I didn't have any issues to deal with at work, I would go out walking at lunch no matter how cold or nasty it was, but it would be nearly impossible for me to do what you're attempting-- good luck!!! carolyn - fraggle @gro ups.com Wednesday, November 15, 2006 5:42 PM Re: thanxfernuthin i keep telling myself "one day a week i'm going to walk to work" then i wake up..its still dark out..its chilly and that 7 miles just seems impossible.. so just pull the covers back over my head.. someday i hope i hope i hope... Carolyn MFEMF Nov 15, 2006 1:19 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Well, it was more a matter of what I stopped eating when I went from vegetarian to vegan. As a "vegetarian, " I was eating lots and lots of ice cream, pizza, milk, buttermilk, cottage cheese, donuts, and huge greasy cheese omelets. Otherwise, my diet was pretty good--fruits, veggies, whole grains, hummus, lentils, beans, nuts, nut butters, etc., so when I subtracted all the dairy and eggs, pounds fell off. Oh, and I did start walking 2-3 miles a day several days a week at about the same time, so I'm sure that had a big impact too. There are lots of good vegan things around now to eat, but mostly they're expensive processed foods. I treat myself once in a while, but mostly, I try to eat close to the plant, if you know what I mean ;-) carolyn History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher History repeats itself and each time the price gets higherHistory repeats itself and each time the price gets higher History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 20, 2006 I wouldnt let in my shed............... far too draughty, too many windows broken, but always a floor available - just had new carpets and underlay.............. I dont think you will have any problems leaving the USA and entering GB, but they might not let you back in!!!!!!!!!!! The Valley Vegan..............fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: i think i want to just moat off my neck of the woods.... we'll see when i return to merry ol england next spring might have to just hide in yer shed Peter VV assuming i ever get tix and i'm allowed on a plane.................. peter VV Nov 18, 2006 11:33 AM Re: thanxfernuthin Plenty of room over here you two! a bit more geologically (if not politically ) stable too! The Valley Vegan.................Sharon Murch <compassion2grace > wrote: Been hereabouts since 1968 myself. My parents moved me here, of course. I thought it was a great idea at the time, but I've since come to wonder just why anybody would choose to live on a major fault PLUS pay way more to do it than you would pay somewhere else more stable! Sharon fraggle <EBbrewpunx (AT) earthlink (DOT) com> Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 2:32:07 PMRe: thanxfernuthin well, welcome comrade left coast East Bayer.... there use to be a few bay area folks on here but they all seem to have gone walk-a-bout. ... been here in oakland meself the last..17 yrs..egads.. . cheers fraggle Sharon Murch Nov 17, 2006 3:01 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Live in San Leandro, work in Castro Valley here. My daughter works in Berkeley. Sharon fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comThursday, November 16, 2006 12:04:04 PMRe: thanxfernuthin Same Oakland.... work in Berkeley cheers fraggle Sharon Murch Nov 15, 2006 8:35 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Where are you fraggle? I'm in the east San Francisco Bay area. fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comWednesday, November 15, 2006 4:16:14 PMRe: thanxfernuthin i go fer a walk generally at lunch..but always seem to end up at Cody's bookstore..which trust..it can be a bad thing!!! Carolyn MFEMF Nov 15, 2006 3:11 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Ironically, I don't get as much exercise now that we've moved to the stix, but in Minneapolis, I used to love to do the long walk on the pedestrian bridge over the Mississippi, then along the bank, then back over and back to my office. If I didn't have any issues to deal with at work, I would go out walking at lunch no matter how cold or nasty it was, but it would be nearly impossible for me to do what you're attempting-- good luck!!! carolyn - fraggle @gro ups.com Wednesday, November 15, 2006 5:42 PM Re: thanxfernuthin i keep telling myself "one day a week i'm going to walk to work" then i wake up..its still dark out..its chilly and that 7 miles just seems impossible.. so just pull the covers back over my head.. someday i hope i hope i hope... Carolyn MFEMF Nov 15, 2006 1:19 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Well, it was more a matter of what I stopped eating when I went from vegetarian to vegan. As a "vegetarian, " I was eating lots and lots of ice cream, pizza, milk, buttermilk, cottage cheese, donuts, and huge greasy cheese omelets. Otherwise, my diet was pretty good--fruits, veggies, whole grains, hummus, lentils, beans, nuts, nut butters, etc., so when I subtracted all the dairy and eggs, pounds fell off. Oh, and I did start walking 2-3 miles a day several days a week at about the same time, so I'm sure that had a big impact too. There are lots of good vegan things around now to eat, but mostly they're expensive processed foods. I treat myself once in a while, but mostly, I try to eat close to the plant, if you know what I mean ;-) carolyn History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher History repeats itself and each time the price gets higherHistory repeats itself and each time the price gets higher History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher Peter H Copy addresses and emails from any email account to Mail - quick, easy and free. Do it now... History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher Peter H Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 20, 2006 I like madness.................... You ought to try living in the middle of nowhere!, at least theres plenty of greenery...........sheep.............greenery..................sheep.............oooh a cow! The Valley Vegan............fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: cuz the Bay Area is a strip of civilization surrounded by a sea of madness... as is often said, the midwest starts at the last BART station Sharon Murch Nov 17, 2006 8:59 PM Re: thanxfernuthin Been hereabouts since 1968 myself. My parents moved me here, of course. I thought it was a great idea at the time, but I've since come to wonder just why anybody would choose to live on a major fault PLUS pay way more to do it than you would pay somewhere else more stable! Sharon fraggle <EBbrewpunx (AT) earthlink (DOT) com> Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 2:32:07 PMRe: thanxfernuthin well, welcome comrade left coast East Bayer.... there use to be a few bay area folks on here but they all seem to have gone walk-a-bout. ... been here in oakland meself the last..17 yrs..egads.. . cheers fraggle Sharon Murch Nov 17, 2006 3:01 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Live in San Leandro, work in Castro Valley here. My daughter works in Berkeley. Sharon fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comThursday, November 16, 2006 12:04:04 PMRe: thanxfernuthin Same Oakland.... work in Berkeley cheers fraggle Sharon Murch Nov 15, 2006 8:35 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Where are you fraggle? I'm in the east San Francisco Bay area. fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comWednesday, November 15, 2006 4:16:14 PMRe: thanxfernuthin i go fer a walk generally at lunch..but always seem to end up at Cody's bookstore..which trust..it can be a bad thing!!! Carolyn MFEMF Nov 15, 2006 3:11 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Ironically, I don't get as much exercise now that we've moved to the stix, but in Minneapolis, I used to love to do the long walk on the pedestrian bridge over the Mississippi, then along the bank, then back over and back to my office. If I didn't have any issues to deal with at work, I would go out walking at lunch no matter how cold or nasty it was, but it would be nearly impossible for me to do what you're attempting-- good luck!!! carolyn - fraggle @gro ups.com Wednesday, November 15, 2006 5:42 PM Re: thanxfernuthin i keep telling myself "one day a week i'm going to walk to work" then i wake up..its still dark out..its chilly and that 7 miles just seems impossible.. so just pull the covers back over my head.. someday i hope i hope i hope... Carolyn MFEMF Nov 15, 2006 1:19 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Well, it was more a matter of what I stopped eating when I went from vegetarian to vegan. As a "vegetarian, " I was eating lots and lots of ice cream, pizza, milk, buttermilk, cottage cheese, donuts, and huge greasy cheese omelets. Otherwise, my diet was pretty good--fruits, veggies, whole grains, hummus, lentils, beans, nuts, nut butters, etc., so when I subtracted all the dairy and eggs, pounds fell off. Oh, and I did start walking 2-3 miles a day several days a week at about the same time, so I'm sure that had a big impact too. There are lots of good vegan things around now to eat, but mostly they're expensive processed foods. I treat myself once in a while, but mostly, I try to eat close to the plant, if you know what I mean ;-) carolyn History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher History repeats itself and each time the price gets higherHistory repeats itself and each time the price gets higher History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher Peter H Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 20, 2006 Well, they'd have to let him on the plane first. Do you think those Homeland Security folks are gonna let an animal rights activist through? Remember that "t" word. They are probably listening right now....... j/k I think. I heard that the Humane Society has started a legislative arm that supports or fights against candidates for office based on their position on animal rights. Well it can't hurt. Nobody seems to think the Humane Society is made up of crazy tree huggers, so maybe they will listen. I don't think you even need to be a vegetarian to belong, do you? Sharon peter VV <swpgh01 Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 11:24:12 AMRe: thanxfernuthin I wouldnt let in my shed........ ....... far too draughty, too many windows broken, but always a floor available - just had new carpets and underlay.... ......... . I dont think you will have any problems leaving the USA and entering GB, but they might not let you back in!!!!!!!!!! ! The Valley Vegan....... .......fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com> wrote: i think i want to just moat off my neck of the woods.... we'll see when i return to merry ol england next spring might have to just hide in yer shed Peter VV assuming i ever get tix and i'm allowed on a plane....... ......... .. peter VV Nov 18, 2006 11:33 AM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Plenty of room over here you two! a bit more geologically (if not politically ) stable too! The Valley Vegan....... ......... .Sharon Murch <compassion2grace@ > wrote: Been hereabouts since 1968 myself. My parents moved me here, of course. I thought it was a great idea at the time, but I've since come to wonder just why anybody would choose to live on a major fault PLUS pay way more to do it than you would pay somewhere else more stable! Sharon fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comFriday, November 17, 2006 2:32:07 PMRe: thanxfernuthin well, welcome comrade left coast East Bayer.... there use to be a few bay area folks on here but they all seem to have gone walk-a-bout. ... been here in oakland meself the last..17 yrs..egads.. . cheers fraggle Sharon Murch Nov 17, 2006 3:01 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Live in San Leandro, work in Castro Valley here. My daughter works in Berkeley. Sharon fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comThursday, November 16, 2006 12:04:04 PMRe: thanxfernuthin Same Oakland.... work in Berkeley cheers fraggle Sharon Murch Nov 15, 2006 8:35 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Where are you fraggle? I'm in the east San Francisco Bay area. fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comWednesday, November 15, 2006 4:16:14 PMRe: thanxfernuthin i go fer a walk generally at lunch..but always seem to end up at Cody's bookstore..which trust..it can be a bad thing!!! Carolyn MFEMF Nov 15, 2006 3:11 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Ironically, I don't get as much exercise now that we've moved to the stix, but in Minneapolis, I used to love to do the long walk on the pedestrian bridge over the Mississippi, then along the bank, then back over and back to my office. If I didn't have any issues to deal with at work, I would go out walking at lunch no matter how cold or nasty it was, but it would be nearly impossible for me to do what you're attempting-- good luck!!! carolyn - fraggle @gro ups.com Wednesday, November 15, 2006 5:42 PM Re: thanxfernuthin i keep telling myself "one day a week i'm going to walk to work" then i wake up..its still dark out..its chilly and that 7 miles just seems impossible.. so just pull the covers back over my head.. someday i hope i hope i hope... Carolyn MFEMF Nov 15, 2006 1:19 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Well, it was more a matter of what I stopped eating when I went from vegetarian to vegan. As a "vegetarian, " I was eating lots and lots of ice cream, pizza, milk, buttermilk, cottage cheese, donuts, and huge greasy cheese omelets. Otherwise, my diet was pretty good--fruits, veggies, whole grains, hummus, lentils, beans, nuts, nut butters, etc., so when I subtracted all the dairy and eggs, pounds fell off. Oh, and I did start walking 2-3 miles a day several days a week at about the same time, so I'm sure that had a big impact too. There are lots of good vegan things around now to eat, but mostly they're expensive processed foods. I treat myself once in a while, but mostly, I try to eat close to the plant, if you know what I mean ;-) carolyn History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher History repeats itself and each time the price gets higherHistory repeats itself and each time the price gets higher History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher Peter H Copy addresses and emails from any email account to Mail - quick, easy and free. Do it now... History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher Peter H Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 20, 2006 I am not too fond of the ocean, since I foresaw my death in it years ago............ The Valley Vegan...............Sharon Murch <compassion2grace wrote: Perhaps. The desert has its own beauties, though. My favorite place of all is the ocean, but the desert is generally less expensive! peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com> Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 12:45:50 AMRe: thanxfernuthin I think I would miss all the greenery. The valley Vegan....... .......Sharon Murch <compassion2grace@ > wrote: Ah, that is my daughter's dream ... to move to England. She actually searches out properties for sale through the internet. She is 12 year old, by the way. But if my dogs can't go, I can't go. I've been thinking maybe the desert. I dunno why, but in my more mature years I have developed a real love for the desert. Sharon peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com>@gro ups.comSaturday, November 18, 2006 8:33:06 AMRe: thanxfernuthin Plenty of room over here you two! a bit more geologically (if not politically ) stable too! The Valley Vegan....... ......... .Sharon Murch <compassion2grace@ > wrote: Been hereabouts since 1968 myself. My parents moved me here, of course. I thought it was a great idea at the time, but I've since come to wonder just why anybody would choose to live on a major fault PLUS pay way more to do it than you would pay somewhere else more stable! Sharon fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comFriday, November 17, 2006 2:32:07 PMRe: thanxfernuthin well, welcome comrade left coast East Bayer.... there use to be a few bay area folks on here but they all seem to have gone walk-a-bout. ... been here in oakland meself the last..17 yrs..egads.. . cheers fraggle Sharon Murch Nov 17, 2006 3:01 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Live in San Leandro, work in Castro Valley here. My daughter works in Berkeley. Sharon fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comThursday, November 16, 2006 12:04:04 PMRe: thanxfernuthin Same Oakland.... work in Berkeley cheers fraggle Sharon Murch Nov 15, 2006 8:35 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Where are you fraggle? I'm in the east San Francisco Bay area. fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comWednesday, November 15, 2006 4:16:14 PMRe: thanxfernuthin i go fer a walk generally at lunch..but always seem to end up at Cody's bookstore..which trust..it can be a bad thing!!! Carolyn MFEMF Nov 15, 2006 3:11 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Ironically, I don't get as much exercise now that we've moved to the stix, but in Minneapolis, I used to love to do the long walk on the pedestrian bridge over the Mississippi, then along the bank, then back over and back to my office. If I didn't have any issues to deal with at work, I would go out walking at lunch no matter how cold or nasty it was, but it would be nearly impossible for me to do what you're attempting-- good luck!!! carolyn - fraggle @gro ups.com Wednesday, November 15, 2006 5:42 PM Re: thanxfernuthin i keep telling myself "one day a week i'm going to walk to work" then i wake up..its still dark out..its chilly and that 7 miles just seems impossible.. so just pull the covers back over my head.. someday i hope i hope i hope... Carolyn MFEMF Nov 15, 2006 1:19 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Well, it was more a matter of what I stopped eating when I went from vegetarian to vegan. As a "vegetarian, " I was eating lots and lots of ice cream, pizza, milk, buttermilk, cottage cheese, donuts, and huge greasy cheese omelets. Otherwise, my diet was pretty good--fruits, veggies, whole grains, hummus, lentils, beans, nuts, nut butters, etc., so when I subtracted all the dairy and eggs, pounds fell off. Oh, and I did start walking 2-3 miles a day several days a week at about the same time, so I'm sure that had a big impact too. There are lots of good vegan things around now to eat, but mostly they're expensive processed foods. I treat myself once in a while, but mostly, I try to eat close to the plant, if you know what I mean ;-) carolyn History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher History repeats itself and each time the price gets higherHistory repeats itself and each time the price gets higher History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher Peter H Copy addresses and emails from any email account to Mail - quick, easy and free. Do it now... Peter H Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger . Peter H Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 20, 2006 i guess it all depends on where you would want to live... you could always live in namibia er somesuch..and have both! Sharon Murch Nov 19, 2006 3:46 PM Re: thanxfernuthin Perhaps. The desert has its own beauties, though. My favorite place of all is the ocean, but the desert is generally less expensive! peter VV <swpgh01 Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 12:45:50 AMRe: thanxfernuthin I think I would miss all the greenery. The valley Vegan....... .......Sharon Murch <compassion2grace@ > wrote: Ah, that is my daughter's dream ... to move to England. She actually searches out properties for sale through the internet. She is 12 year old, by the way. But if my dogs can't go, I can't go. I've been thinking maybe the desert. I dunno why, but in my more mature years I have developed a real love for the desert. Sharon peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com>@gro ups.comSaturday, November 18, 2006 8:33:06 AMRe: thanxfernuthin Plenty of room over here you two! a bit more geologically (if not politically ) stable too! The Valley Vegan....... ......... .Sharon Murch <compassion2grace@ > wrote: Been hereabouts since 1968 myself. My parents moved me here, of course. I thought it was a great idea at the time, but I've since come to wonder just why anybody would choose to live on a major fault PLUS pay way more to do it than you would pay somewhere else more stable! Sharon fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comFriday, November 17, 2006 2:32:07 PMRe: thanxfernuthin well, welcome comrade left coast East Bayer.... there use to be a few bay area folks on here but they all seem to have gone walk-a-bout. ... been here in oakland meself the last..17 yrs..egads.. . cheers fraggle Sharon Murch Nov 17, 2006 3:01 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Live in San Leandro, work in Castro Valley here. My daughter works in Berkeley. Sharon fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comThursday, November 16, 2006 12:04:04 PMRe: thanxfernuthin Same Oakland.... work in Berkeley cheers fraggle Sharon Murch Nov 15, 2006 8:35 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Where are you fraggle? I'm in the east San Francisco Bay area. fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comWednesday, November 15, 2006 4:16:14 PMRe: thanxfernuthin i go fer a walk generally at lunch..but always seem to end up at Cody's bookstore..which trust..it can be a bad thing!!! Carolyn MFEMF Nov 15, 2006 3:11 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Ironically, I don't get as much exercise now that we've moved to the stix, but in Minneapolis, I used to love to do the long walk on the pedestrian bridge over the Mississippi, then along the bank, then back over and back to my office. If I didn't have any issues to deal with at work, I would go out walking at lunch no matter how cold or nasty it was, but it would be nearly impossible for me to do what you're attempting-- good luck!!! carolyn - fraggle @gro ups.com Wednesday, November 15, 2006 5:42 PM Re: thanxfernuthin i keep telling myself "one day a week i'm going to walk to work" then i wake up..its still dark out..its chilly and that 7 miles just seems impossible.. so just pull the covers back over my head.. someday i hope i hope i hope... Carolyn MFEMF Nov 15, 2006 1:19 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Well, it was more a matter of what I stopped eating when I went from vegetarian to vegan. As a "vegetarian, " I was eating lots and lots of ice cream, pizza, milk, buttermilk, cottage cheese, donuts, and huge greasy cheese omelets. Otherwise, my diet was pretty good--fruits, veggies, whole grains, hummus, lentils, beans, nuts, nut butters, etc., so when I subtracted all the dairy and eggs, pounds fell off. Oh, and I did start walking 2-3 miles a day several days a week at about the same time, so I'm sure that had a big impact too. There are lots of good vegan things around now to eat, but mostly they're expensive processed foods. I treat myself once in a while, but mostly, I try to eat close to the plant, if you know what I mean ;-) carolyn History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher History repeats itself and each time the price gets higherHistory repeats itself and each time the price gets higher History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher Peter H Copy addresses and emails from any email account to Mail - quick, easy and free. Do it now... Peter H Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger . History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 20, 2006 i'm actually VERY worried about being on some no-fly list er other.... not to mention the way i dress heck...way back in the 80's, i was put on a watch list because i got labled a "gang member" umm..i wasn't...but..southern california was over reacting to gang violence back then, so i got sucked up in the net.... Sharon Murch Nov 20, 2006 2:51 PM Re: thanxfernuthin Well, they'd have to let him on the plane first. Do you think those Homeland Security folks are gonna let an animal rights activist through? Remember that "t" word. They are probably listening right now....... j/k I think. I heard that the Humane Society has started a legislative arm that supports or fights against candidates for office based on their position on animal rights. Well it can't hurt. Nobody seems to think the Humane Society is made up of crazy tree huggers, so maybe they will listen. I don't think you even need to be a vegetarian to belong, do you? Sharon peter VV <swpgh01 Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 11:24:12 AMRe: thanxfernuthin I wouldnt let in my shed........ ....... far too draughty, too many windows broken, but always a floor available - just had new carpets and underlay.... ......... . I dont think you will have any problems leaving the USA and entering GB, but they might not let you back in!!!!!!!!!! ! The Valley Vegan....... .......fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com> wrote: i think i want to just moat off my neck of the woods.... we'll see when i return to merry ol england next spring might have to just hide in yer shed Peter VV assuming i ever get tix and i'm allowed on a plane....... ......... .. peter VV Nov 18, 2006 11:33 AM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Plenty of room over here you two! a bit more geologically (if not politically ) stable too! The Valley Vegan....... ......... .Sharon Murch <compassion2grace@ > wrote: Been hereabouts since 1968 myself. My parents moved me here, of course. I thought it was a great idea at the time, but I've since come to wonder just why anybody would choose to live on a major fault PLUS pay way more to do it than you would pay somewhere else more stable! Sharon fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comFriday, November 17, 2006 2:32:07 PMRe: thanxfernuthin well, welcome comrade left coast East Bayer.... there use to be a few bay area folks on here but they all seem to have gone walk-a-bout. ... been here in oakland meself the last..17 yrs..egads.. . cheers fraggle Sharon Murch Nov 17, 2006 3:01 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Live in San Leandro, work in Castro Valley here. My daughter works in Berkeley. Sharon fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comThursday, November 16, 2006 12:04:04 PMRe: thanxfernuthin Same Oakland.... work in Berkeley cheers fraggle Sharon Murch Nov 15, 2006 8:35 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Where are you fraggle? I'm in the east San Francisco Bay area. fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comWednesday, November 15, 2006 4:16:14 PMRe: thanxfernuthin i go fer a walk generally at lunch..but always seem to end up at Cody's bookstore..which trust..it can be a bad thing!!! Carolyn MFEMF Nov 15, 2006 3:11 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Ironically, I don't get as much exercise now that we've moved to the stix, but in Minneapolis, I used to love to do the long walk on the pedestrian bridge over the Mississippi, then along the bank, then back over and back to my office. If I didn't have any issues to deal with at work, I would go out walking at lunch no matter how cold or nasty it was, but it would be nearly impossible for me to do what you're attempting-- good luck!!! carolyn - fraggle @gro ups.com Wednesday, November 15, 2006 5:42 PM Re: thanxfernuthin i keep telling myself "one day a week i'm going to walk to work" then i wake up..its still dark out..its chilly and that 7 miles just seems impossible.. so just pull the covers back over my head.. someday i hope i hope i hope... Carolyn MFEMF Nov 15, 2006 1:19 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Well, it was more a matter of what I stopped eating when I went from vegetarian to vegan. As a "vegetarian, " I was eating lots and lots of ice cream, pizza, milk, buttermilk, cottage cheese, donuts, and huge greasy cheese omelets. Otherwise, my diet was pretty good--fruits, veggies, whole grains, hummus, lentils, beans, nuts, nut butters, etc., so when I subtracted all the dairy and eggs, pounds fell off. Oh, and I did start walking 2-3 miles a day several days a week at about the same time, so I'm sure that had a big impact too. There are lots of good vegan things around now to eat, but mostly they're expensive processed foods. I treat myself once in a while, but mostly, I try to eat close to the plant, if you know what I mean ;-) carolyn History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher History repeats itself and each time the price gets higherHistory repeats itself and each time the price gets higher History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher Peter H Copy addresses and emails from any email account to Mail - quick, easy and free. Do it now... History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher Peter H Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger . History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 20, 2006 Well that's not pleasant. It is a terrifying force, the ocean, but I think that is part of its beauty. As much as I'd love to live there, I wouldn't buy a house there simply because the ocean is always reclaiming its ground bit by bit, and sometimes major chunks at a time. Of course, I'd love to see a volcano erupt too. So you avoid the ocean altogether? Sharon peter VV <swpgh01 Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 11:54:07 AMRe: thanxfernuthin I am not too fond of the ocean, since I foresaw my death in it years ago......... ... The Valley Vegan....... ........Sharon Murch <compassion2grace@ > wrote: Perhaps. The desert has its own beauties, though. My favorite place of all is the ocean, but the desert is generally less expensive! peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com>@gro ups.comSunday, November 19, 2006 12:45:50 AMRe: thanxfernuthin I think I would miss all the greenery. The valley Vegan....... .......Sharon Murch <compassion2grace@ > wrote: Ah, that is my daughter's dream ... to move to England. She actually searches out properties for sale through the internet. She is 12 year old, by the way. But if my dogs can't go, I can't go. I've been thinking maybe the desert. I dunno why, but in my more mature years I have developed a real love for the desert. Sharon peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com>@gro ups.comSaturday, November 18, 2006 8:33:06 AMRe: thanxfernuthin Plenty of room over here you two! a bit more geologically (if not politically ) stable too! The Valley Vegan....... ......... .Sharon Murch <compassion2grace@ > wrote: Been hereabouts since 1968 myself. My parents moved me here, of course. I thought it was a great idea at the time, but I've since come to wonder just why anybody would choose to live on a major fault PLUS pay way more to do it than you would pay somewhere else more stable! Sharon fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comFriday, November 17, 2006 2:32:07 PMRe: thanxfernuthin well, welcome comrade left coast East Bayer.... there use to be a few bay area folks on here but they all seem to have gone walk-a-bout. ... been here in oakland meself the last..17 yrs..egads.. . cheers fraggle Sharon Murch Nov 17, 2006 3:01 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Live in San Leandro, work in Castro Valley here. My daughter works in Berkeley. Sharon fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comThursday, November 16, 2006 12:04:04 PMRe: thanxfernuthin Same Oakland.... work in Berkeley cheers fraggle Sharon Murch Nov 15, 2006 8:35 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Where are you fraggle? I'm in the east San Francisco Bay area. fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comWednesday, November 15, 2006 4:16:14 PMRe: thanxfernuthin i go fer a walk generally at lunch..but always seem to end up at Cody's bookstore..which trust..it can be a bad thing!!! Carolyn MFEMF Nov 15, 2006 3:11 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Ironically, I don't get as much exercise now that we've moved to the stix, but in Minneapolis, I used to love to do the long walk on the pedestrian bridge over the Mississippi, then along the bank, then back over and back to my office. If I didn't have any issues to deal with at work, I would go out walking at lunch no matter how cold or nasty it was, but it would be nearly impossible for me to do what you're attempting-- good luck!!! carolyn - fraggle @gro ups.com Wednesday, November 15, 2006 5:42 PM Re: thanxfernuthin i keep telling myself "one day a week i'm going to walk to work" then i wake up..its still dark out..its chilly and that 7 miles just seems impossible.. so just pull the covers back over my head.. someday i hope i hope i hope... Carolyn MFEMF Nov 15, 2006 1:19 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Well, it was more a matter of what I stopped eating when I went from vegetarian to vegan. As a "vegetarian, " I was eating lots and lots of ice cream, pizza, milk, buttermilk, cottage cheese, donuts, and huge greasy cheese omelets. Otherwise, my diet was pretty good--fruits, veggies, whole grains, hummus, lentils, beans, nuts, nut butters, etc., so when I subtracted all the dairy and eggs, pounds fell off. Oh, and I did start walking 2-3 miles a day several days a week at about the same time, so I'm sure that had a big impact too. There are lots of good vegan things around now to eat, but mostly they're expensive processed foods. I treat myself once in a while, but mostly, I try to eat close to the plant, if you know what I mean ;-) carolyn History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher History repeats itself and each time the price gets higherHistory repeats itself and each time the price gets higher History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher Peter H Copy addresses and emails from any email account to Mail - quick, easy and free. Do it now... 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Guest guest Report post Posted November 20, 2006 Well none around where I live but when we do venture near the coast on hols, I tend to stick to swimming pools. The Valley Vegan.................Sharon Murch <compassion2grace wrote: Well that's not pleasant. It is a terrifying force, the ocean, but I think that is part of its beauty. As much as I'd love to live there, I wouldn't buy a house there simply because the ocean is always reclaiming its ground bit by bit, and sometimes major chunks at a time. Of course, I'd love to see a volcano erupt too. So you avoid the ocean altogether? Sharon peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 11:54:07 AMRe: thanxfernuthin I am not too fond of the ocean, since I foresaw my death in it years ago......... ... The Valley Vegan....... ........Sharon Murch <compassion2grace@ > wrote: Perhaps. The desert has its own beauties, though. My favorite place of all is the ocean, but the desert is generally less expensive! peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com>@gro ups.comSunday, November 19, 2006 12:45:50 AMRe: thanxfernuthin I think I would miss all the greenery. The valley Vegan....... .......Sharon Murch <compassion2grace@ > wrote: Ah, that is my daughter's dream ... to move to England. She actually searches out properties for sale through the internet. She is 12 year old, by the way. But if my dogs can't go, I can't go. I've been thinking maybe the desert. I dunno why, but in my more mature years I have developed a real love for the desert. Sharon peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com>@gro ups.comSaturday, November 18, 2006 8:33:06 AMRe: thanxfernuthin Plenty of room over here you two! a bit more geologically (if not politically ) stable too! The Valley Vegan....... ......... .Sharon Murch <compassion2grace@ > wrote: Been hereabouts since 1968 myself. My parents moved me here, of course. I thought it was a great idea at the time, but I've since come to wonder just why anybody would choose to live on a major fault PLUS pay way more to do it than you would pay somewhere else more stable! Sharon fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comFriday, November 17, 2006 2:32:07 PMRe: thanxfernuthin well, welcome comrade left coast East Bayer.... there use to be a few bay area folks on here but they all seem to have gone walk-a-bout. ... been here in oakland meself the last..17 yrs..egads.. . cheers fraggle Sharon Murch Nov 17, 2006 3:01 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Live in San Leandro, work in Castro Valley here. My daughter works in Berkeley. Sharon ----- Original Message ----fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comThursday, November 16, 2006 12:04:04 PMRe: thanxfernuthin Same Oakland.... work in Berkeley cheers fraggle Sharon Murch Nov 15, 2006 8:35 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Where are you fraggle? I'm in the east San Francisco Bay area. fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comWednesday, November 15, 2006 4:16:14 PMRe: thanxfernuthin i go fer a walk generally at lunch..but always seem to end up at Cody's bookstore..which trust..it can be a bad thing!!! Carolyn MFEMF Nov 15, 2006 3:11 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Ironically, I don't get as much exercise now that we've moved to the stix, but in Minneapolis, I used to love to do the long walk on the pedestrian bridge over the Mississippi, then along the bank, then back over and back to my office. If I didn't have any issues to deal with at work, I would go out walking at lunch no matter how cold or nasty it was, but it would be nearly impossible for me to do what you're attempting-- good luck!!! carolyn - fraggle @gro ups.com Wednesday, November 15, 2006 5:42 PM Re: thanxfernuthin i keep telling myself "one day a week i'm going to walk to work" then i wake up..its still dark out..its chilly and that 7 miles just seems impossible.. so just pull the covers back over my head.. someday i hope i hope i hope... Carolyn MFEMF Nov 15, 2006 1:19 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Well, it was more a matter of what I stopped eating when I went from vegetarian to vegan. As a "vegetarian, " I was eating lots and lots of ice cream, pizza, milk, buttermilk, cottage cheese, donuts, and huge greasy cheese omelets. Otherwise, my diet was pretty good--fruits, veggies, whole grains, hummus, lentils, beans, nuts, nut butters, etc., so when I subtracted all the dairy and eggs, pounds fell off. Oh, and I did start walking 2-3 miles a day several days a week at about the same time, so I'm sure that had a big impact too. There are lots of good vegan things around now to eat, but mostly they're expensive processed foods. I treat myself once in a while, but mostly, I try to eat close to the plant, if you know what I mean ;-) carolyn History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher History repeats itself and each time the price gets higherHistory repeats itself and each time the price gets higher History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher Peter H Copy addresses and emails from any email account to Mail - quick, easy and free. Do it now... Peter H Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger . Peter H Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger . Peter H Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 20, 2006 Yeah, been there! My oldest son is 26, and he could not walk down the street in the town where we lived at the time without the cops stopping him, searching him, generally harrassing him. I started out trying to complain to the PD, but one of the officers took me aside and told me they didn't need to actually find drugs on him to arrest him for dealing, all they needed was somebody to say they saw the deal go down. I took that as the threat it was. They did actually end up getting us evicted, which was the nicest thing they ever did for us. This all stemmed actually from him being present when a person pushed a police officer down the stairs, and the police insisted that my son must know the identity of the person who did it, and my son insisted he did not. From then on it was unending harrassment. Sharon fraggle <EBbrewpunx Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 12:10:24 PMRe: thanxfernuthin i'm actually VERY worried about being on some no-fly list er other.... not to mention the way i dress heck...way back in the 80's, i was put on a watch list because i got labled a "gang member" umm..i wasn't...but. .southern california was over reacting to gang violence back then, so i got sucked up in the net.... Sharon Murch Nov 20, 2006 2:51 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Well, they'd have to let him on the plane first. Do you think those Homeland Security folks are gonna let an animal rights activist through? Remember that "t" word. They are probably listening right now....... j/k I think. I heard that the Humane Society has started a legislative arm that supports or fights against candidates for office based on their position on animal rights. Well it can't hurt. Nobody seems to think the Humane Society is made up of crazy tree huggers, so maybe they will listen. I don't think you even need to be a vegetarian to belong, do you? Sharon peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com>@gro ups.comMonday, November 20, 2006 11:24:12 AMRe: thanxfernuthin I wouldnt let in my shed........ ....... far too draughty, too many windows broken, but always a floor available - just had new carpets and underlay.... ......... . I dont think you will have any problems leaving the USA and entering GB, but they might not let you back in!!!!!!!!!! ! The Valley Vegan....... .......fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com> wrote: i think i want to just moat off my neck of the woods.... we'll see when i return to merry ol england next spring might have to just hide in yer shed Peter VV assuming i ever get tix and i'm allowed on a plane....... ......... .. peter VV Nov 18, 2006 11:33 AM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Plenty of room over here you two! a bit more geologically (if not politically ) stable too! The Valley Vegan....... ......... .Sharon Murch <compassion2grace@ > wrote: Been hereabouts since 1968 myself. My parents moved me here, of course. I thought it was a great idea at the time, but I've since come to wonder just why anybody would choose to live on a major fault PLUS pay way more to do it than you would pay somewhere else more stable! Sharon fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comFriday, November 17, 2006 2:32:07 PMRe: thanxfernuthin well, welcome comrade left coast East Bayer.... there use to be a few bay area folks on here but they all seem to have gone walk-a-bout. ... been here in oakland meself the last..17 yrs..egads.. . cheers fraggle Sharon Murch Nov 17, 2006 3:01 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Live in San Leandro, work in Castro Valley here. My daughter works in Berkeley. Sharon fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comThursday, November 16, 2006 12:04:04 PMRe: thanxfernuthin Same Oakland.... work in Berkeley cheers fraggle Sharon Murch Nov 15, 2006 8:35 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Where are you fraggle? I'm in the east San Francisco Bay area. fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.com>@gro ups.comWednesday, November 15, 2006 4:16:14 PMRe: thanxfernuthin i go fer a walk generally at lunch..but always seem to end up at Cody's bookstore..which trust..it can be a bad thing!!! Carolyn MFEMF Nov 15, 2006 3:11 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Ironically, I don't get as much exercise now that we've moved to the stix, but in Minneapolis, I used to love to do the long walk on the pedestrian bridge over the Mississippi, then along the bank, then back over and back to my office. If I didn't have any issues to deal with at work, I would go out walking at lunch no matter how cold or nasty it was, but it would be nearly impossible for me to do what you're attempting-- good luck!!! carolyn - fraggle @gro ups.com Wednesday, November 15, 2006 5:42 PM Re: thanxfernuthin i keep telling myself "one day a week i'm going to walk to work" then i wake up..its still dark out..its chilly and that 7 miles just seems impossible.. so just pull the covers back over my head.. someday i hope i hope i hope... Carolyn MFEMF Nov 15, 2006 1:19 PM @gro ups.com Re: thanxfernuthin Well, it was more a matter of what I stopped eating when I went from vegetarian to vegan. As a "vegetarian, " I was eating lots and lots of ice cream, pizza, milk, buttermilk, cottage cheese, donuts, and huge greasy cheese omelets. Otherwise, my diet was pretty good--fruits, veggies, whole grains, hummus, lentils, beans, nuts, nut butters, etc., so when I subtracted all the dairy and eggs, pounds fell off. Oh, and I did start walking 2-3 miles a day several days a week at about the same time, so I'm sure that had a big impact too. There are lots of good vegan things around now to eat, but mostly they're expensive processed foods. I treat myself once in a while, but mostly, I try to eat close to the plant, if you know what I mean ;-) carolyn History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher History repeats itself and each time the price gets higherHistory repeats itself and each time the price gets higher History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher Peter H Copy addresses and emails from any email account to Mail - quick, easy and free. Do it now... History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher Peter H Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger . History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 20, 2006 been there..done that mr petah spent my winters in connecticut when i was a wee fraggle, in a town that at that point in time had more cows then people went to college in Virginia (scarey...) and then lived in north san diego county for 8 months (of pure hell) in 1998... peter VV Nov 20, 2006 2:39 PM Re: thanxfernuthin I like madness.................... You ought to try living in the middle of nowhere!, at least theres plenty of greenery...........sheep.............greenery..................sheep.............oooh a cow! The Valley Vegan............fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: cuz the Bay Area is a strip of civilization surrounded by a sea of madness... as is often said, the midwest starts at the last BART station Sharon Murch Nov 17, 2006 8:59 PM Re: thanxfernuthin Been hereabouts since 1968 myself. My parents moved me here, of course. I thought it was a great idea at the time, but I've since come to wonder just why anybody would choose to live on a major fault PLUS pay way more to do it than you would pay somewhere else more stable! Sharon History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
