Guest guest Posted September 26, 2001 Report Share Posted September 26, 2001 Hi, I live near Coos Bay, about half way between California and Washington. I have lived here for 4 years, having moved here from Lewiston Idaho. I have lived in ORegon before, and have loved it since I attended boarding school in Oregon as a teen. I look forward to getting acquainted with you and sharing recipes. Thanks for the welcome. Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2001 Report Share Posted September 26, 2001 Hot Cider (non-alcoholic) Ingredients: (1 or 2) Oranges a few (20?) whole cloves large jug Apple cider Cinnamon Sticks Directions: Stud the oranges with cloves. (Push the pointy end into them until the flower part is flush with the peel.) I use about 10 per orange. Put the cider into a large saucepan, and add the oranges and some cinnamon sticks (one or two will do). Heat for hours (you can just leave it on all day for a party). It gets better with age. Just pour in more cider when it starts getting low. Enjoy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2001 Report Share Posted September 29, 2001 Welcome Carol. What an interesting screen name! Hope you find something you can use here. Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2001 Report Share Posted October 16, 2001 In message <9qhrro+o63a (AT) eGroups (DOT) com>, luciano <frutariano writes >My name is Luciano. I am a new member of this group. >I joined you because I share the vegan philosophy. >I have been a vegan for 7-8 years. I am living in Buenos Aires, >Argentina. I'm 25. welcome, luciano! as you speak spanish, you have probably already discovered the spanish vegan society <www.ivu.org/ave> the president of AVE is a raw food vegan for 12 years now but, like you, he appreciates that the ethical distinction is between those who exploit living beings for flesh, milk, eggs, leather, wool, entertainment, etc etc and those who do not. the ivu website <www.ivu.org> has many pages and articles in dozens of languages, including many in spanish, and also 2,000 recipes all of which are vegan [i include this information for others on the list as i understand that you are currently fruitarian] if you haven't already visited the site, do have a look! another good one is <www.ivu.org/atelier> - a veggie guesthouse in the mountains of the sierra nevada whose proprietor has just published a veggie guide to spain. useful for anyone thinking of holidaying there. also available through the uk vegan society <www.vegansociety.com> all good wishes, vanessa clarke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2001 Report Share Posted October 22, 2001 > > welcome, luciano! as you speak spanish, you have probably already > discovered the spanish vegan society <www.ivu.org/ave> Thank you very much for welcoming me. And yes, I already knew about the spanish vegan society, anyway, it was very kind of you to send me this information. > > the president of AVE is a raw food vegan for 12 years now but, like you, > he appreciates that the ethical distinction is between those who exploit > living beings for flesh, milk, eggs, leather, wool, entertainment, etc > etc and those who do not. I am in touch with the Asociacion Vegana Española (ave), since I was a teenager, in fact, this organization provided me a lot of information about veganism and all concerning that life philosophy. > > the ivu website <www.ivu.org> has many pages and articles in dozens of > languages, including many in spanish, yes, I knew that, in fact, you can visit my essay of animal rights published there. I am a liberation-animal writer. anyone of this group can visit my work, this is the link: http://www.ivu.org/uva/incons.html (the problem is that for the moment only the spanish version is available) soon it will be in english because I am working on the translation. and also 2,000 recipes all of > which are vegan [i include this information for others on the list as i > understand that you are currently fruitarian] > > if you haven't already visited the site, do have a look! another good > one is <www.ivu.org/atelier> - a veggie guesthouse in the mountains of > the sierra nevada whose proprietor has just published a veggie guide to > spain. useful for anyone thinking of holidaying there. also available > through the uk vegan society <www.vegansociety.com> > > all good wishes, > > vanessa clarke All good wishes for u2, Luciano Bonfico I am happy to be a member of this group. I'll appreciate any information about raw veganism or raw fruitarianism. www.tulibertadzine.com.ar/fruitariansmaster.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2002 Report Share Posted January 6, 2002 Hello everyone - I just joined the list; I was glad to find it. I'm relatively new at vegetarianism so I don't have much to share at this point (unless you'd like recipes from the Vegetarian Times Cookbook). I've used firm tofu before but I mistakenly bought a package of silken tofu. Anyone have any suggestions for using it in a dish? TIA, Dawn Durante Send FREE video emails in Mail! http://promo./videomail/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 Dawn, I usually use silken tofu for smoothies in the morning. Just add it with your favorite fruit, blend it and you're ready to go. Carolyn , dawn durante <dariced2001> wrote: > > Hello everyone - > > I just joined the list; I was glad to find it. > I'm relatively new at vegetarianism so I don't have > much to share at this point (unless you'd like recipes > from the Vegetarian Times Cookbook). > > I've used firm tofu before but I mistakenly > bought a package of silken tofu. Anyone have any > suggestions for using it in a dish? > > TIA, > Dawn Durante > > > > Send FREE video emails in Mail! > http://promo./videomail/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2002 Report Share Posted July 1, 2002 Welcome, Mirian! I hope you enjoy the group and I'm looking forward to your posts. Your garden sounds wonderful! Melinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2002 Report Share Posted August 2, 2002 Welcome, Jane! I think you can find lots of tasty foods that don't contain meat. I hope you find some here you like. Melinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 Hi Bob Welcome > I prefer old > hand crafted acoustic instruments made before electrical > contraptions. An interesting choice of phrase, and one which I actually find to be quite offensive. I am a guitarist, and played classical guitar for many years before trying electric. I used to think very much like you with regard to " electrical contraptions " , but when I was 14 years old I tried one and I found it much more challenging than I had at first thought. I now find that electrical instruments are far more versatile than acoustic, and while acoustic instruments are still very useful (I often use nylon string guitar in my compositions), it is possible to recreate the grandeur of a 200 piece orchestra with just 5 electrical instuments. I guess when they first invented the upright bass, cellists probably thought of it as a " new contraption " to be treated as suspicion, and when they invented the cello, singers probably despised the idea of these new-fangled ideas (I believe the Orthodox church believe instruments to be un-godly). I guess that there are always going to be some people who aren't willing to try the new. Personally, I prefer to try something before judging it. BB Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release 02/08/02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 Hi Bob! It's good to meet ya! And I look forward to getting to know you nikki IL , " lowhertz " <bc@i...> wrote: > > Greetings fellow Vegans.... > > I've been mostly reading for the past few months, and lately have > posted a few responses. > Here's a little background. > > I'm a 47 year old man living on the Space Coast of Florida. Ever > since I was a little boy > I wanted to be a vegetarian and have been a vegetarian since the mid > 70s. For the last > 20 years I've been veganish, rarely a perfect vegan but always a > strict vegetarian. I have > a 20 year old son who's been a life line vegetarian as well. > > I'm very interested in nutrition, nature, holistic health and > environmental causes. They > are of course highly related. The only real advance in nutrition > over the last > few hundred years has been the veggie juicer, and I've been a juicer > the entier > period. > > Along with fresh organic produce, fitness is the fountain of youth, > and I work out every day. > Luckily, I'm a telecommuter, and start most days running on the beach > and watching the sun rise. > In addition, I push weights, run and swim with enthusiasm. I try to > set a good example. I motto is to earn my daily shower. > > My passion is music, and I play upright bass in a large jazz > band and support our local community orchestra as well. While I > work in the computer industry, I prefer old > hand crafted acoustic instruments made before electrical > contraptions. Some of my other interests are history, nature, > science, recumbent biking, political thought, economics, > operating systems, and almost any topic can be interesting. > > Personal email is always welcomed, but please no chain letters. I > don't care if someone > disagrees with anything I write, in spite of my strong views. > Opposing views are how we all learn. However, I will object > to any personal attacks. In addition, will attack racists and > anti-environmentalists like a badger. > > > Bob C on the Space Coast of Florida > bc@i... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 Welcome Bob. You sound like a really intresting person, and I bet you will add lots to the group. Hannah lowhertz 8/24/2002 5:24 PM Introduction Greetings fellow Vegans.... I've been mostly reading for the past few months, and lately have posted a few responses. Here's a little background. I'm a 47 year old man living on the Space Coast of Florida. Ever since I was a little boy I wanted to be a vegetarian and have been a vegetarian since the mid 70s. For the last 20 years I've been veganish, rarely a perfect vegan but always a strict vegetarian. I have a 20 year old son who's been a life line vegetarian as well. I'm very interested in nutrition, nature, holistic health and environmental causes. They are of course highly related. The only real advance in nutrition over the last few hundred years has been the veggie juicer, and I've been a juicer the entier period. Along with fresh organic produce, fitness is the fountain of youth, and I work out every day. Luckily, I'm a telecommuter, and start most days running on the beach and watching the sun rise. In addition, I push weights, run and swim with enthusiasm. I try to set a good example. I motto is to earn my daily shower. My passion is music, and I play upright bass in a large jazz band and support our local community orchestra as well. While I work in the computer industry, I prefer old hand crafted acoustic instruments made before electrical contraptions. Some of my other interests are history, nature, science, recumbent biking, political thought, economics, operating systems, and almost any topic can be interesting. Personal email is always welcomed, but please no chain letters. I don't care if someone disagrees with anything I write, in spite of my strong views. Opposing views are how we all learn. However, I will object to any personal attacks. In addition, will attack racists and anti-environmentalists like a badger. Bob C on the Space Coast of Florida bc To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 welcome bob now, is that a european er an amercian badger?? fraggle " lowhertz " <bc wrote: > >Greetings fellow Vegans.... > >I've been mostly reading for the past few months, and lately have >posted a few responses. >Here's a little background. > >I'm a 47 year old man living on the Space Coast of Florida. Ever >since I was a little boy >I wanted to be a vegetarian and have been a vegetarian since the mid >70s. For the last >20 years I've been veganish, rarely a perfect vegan but always a >strict vegetarian. I have >a 20 year old son who's been a life line vegetarian as well. > >I'm very interested in nutrition, nature, holistic health and >environmental causes. They >are of course highly related. The only real advance in nutrition >over the last >few hundred years has been the veggie juicer, and I've been a juicer >the entier >period. > >Along with fresh organic produce, fitness is the fountain of youth, >and I work out every day. >Luckily, I'm a telecommuter, and start most days running on the beach >and watching the sun rise. >In addition, I push weights, run and swim with enthusiasm. I try to >set a good example. I motto is to earn my daily shower. > >My passion is music, and I play upright bass in a large jazz >band and support our local community orchestra as well. While I >work in the computer industry, I prefer old >hand crafted acoustic instruments made before electrical >contraptions. Some of my other interests are history, nature, >science, recumbent biking, political thought, economics, >operating systems, and almost any topic can be interesting. > >Personal email is always welcomed, but please no chain letters. I >don't care if someone >disagrees with anything I write, in spite of my strong views. >Opposing views are how we all learn. However, I will object >to any personal attacks. In addition, will attack racists and >anti-environmentalists like a badger. > > >Bob C on the Space Coast of Florida >bc > > > >To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 , " Peter " <Snowbow@b...> wrote: > Hi Bob > > Welcome > > > I prefer old > > hand crafted acoustic instruments made before electrical > > contraptions. > > An interesting choice of phrase, and one which I actually find to be quite > offensive. I am a guitarist, and played classical guitar for many years > before trying electric. I used to think very much like you with regard to > " electrical contraptions " , but when I was 14 years old I tried one and I > found it much more challenging than I had at first thought. I now find that > electrical instruments are far more versatile than acoustic, and while > acoustic instruments are still very useful (I often use nylon string guitar > in my compositions), it is possible to recreate the grandeur of a 200 piece > orchestra with just 5 electrical instuments. > > I guess when they first invented the upright bass, cellists probably thought > of it as a " new contraption " to be treated as suspicion, and when they > invented the cello, singers probably despised the idea of these new- fangled > ideas (I believe the Orthodox church believe instruments to be un- godly). I > guess that there are always going to be some people who aren't willing to > try the new. > > Personally, I prefer to try something before judging it. > > BB > Peter > Peter, please don't make assumptions about me. Yes, I also play electric bass, have pickups, play electric and classical guitar. Playing electric bass was how I worked my way through college. This is my preference. I find acoustic music much more spiritual and meaningful. Bob C Enjoy your electrical guitar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 Hi Bob > Peter, please don't make assumptions about me. No assumptions were made. You obviously have difficulty in bringing yourself to classify " electrical contraptions " as instruments. These were your words, not mine. BB Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release 02/08/02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 peter sure woke up in grumpyville today... " Peter " <Snowbow wrote: >Hi Bob > >> Peter, please don't make assumptions about me. > >No assumptions were made. You obviously have difficulty in bringing yourself >to classify " electrical contraptions " as instruments. These were your words, >not mine. > >BB >Peter > > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release 02/08/02 > > > >To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 Hi Bob > I find acoustic music much more spiritual and meaningful. I find this statement interesting, and I hope you won't mind my investigating exactly what it means. Spiritual to me means that something comes " from the spirit / soul " . Are you saying that you have the ability to understand the spirit / soul of the person writing / playing the music, or are you just making an assumption? Now, how about meaning - please elucidate as to what is meaningful about acoustic music, which is not found in music played on amplified instruments. Ultimately, isn't music all about vibrations - how is it actually possible to define music simply by whether or not it is amplified? Personally, I thoroughly enjoy all sorts of music, nothing more than the " unexpected " mix of acoustic / electric - be it something like Apocalyptica with all the amazing use of amplification on usually acoustic instruments, or a simplified acoustic version of a song which was originally played with electrical instruments. But my favourite sort of music is the sort like Rhapsody - music which is ultimately classical in its composition, but which is played by musicians who not only understand the music, but are also some of the best musicians in the world (on both electric and acoustic). BB Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release 02/08/02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 Hi Bob You did call them 'electrical contraptions' which sounds rather derogatory. Jo > Peter, please don't make assumptions about me. Yes, I also > play electric bass, have pickups, play electric and classical guitar. > Playing electric bass was how I worked my way through college. > > This is my preference. I find acoustic music much more spiritual > and meaningful. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release 02/08/02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 damn them new fangled electrical gadgets... if gawd had meant us to play electrical geetars, we would have amps in our rear ends... and then we would discriminate between those with peavey's, and the ones with marshalls.... fraggle " Heartwork " <Heartwork wrote: >Hi Bob > >You did call them 'electrical contraptions' which sounds rather derogatory. > >Jo >> Peter, please don't make assumptions about me. Yes, I also >> play electric bass, have pickups, play electric and classical guitar. >> Playing electric bass was how I worked my way through college. >> >> This is my preference. I find acoustic music much more spiritual >> and meaningful. > > > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release 02/08/02 > > > >To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 LOL - and if he had meant us to have accoustic guitars where would they be situated :-) Jo > damn them new fangled electrical gadgets... > if gawd had meant us to play electrical geetars, we would have amps in our rear ends... > and then we would discriminate between those with peavey's, and the ones with marshalls.... > fraggle > > > " Heartwork " <Heartwork wrote: > > >Hi Bob > > > >You did call them 'electrical contraptions' which sounds rather derogatory. > > > >Jo > >> Peter, please don't make assumptions about me. Yes, I also > >> play electric bass, have pickups, play electric and classical guitar. > >> Playing electric bass was how I worked my way through college. > >> > >> This is my preference. I find acoustic music much more spiritual > >> and meaningful. > > > > > > > >--- > >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > >Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release 02/08/02 > > > > > > > >To send an email to - > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 Actually, when I wrote new fangled electrical gadgets, I meant, ALL electronic gadgets, not electric instruments. Generally, I just personally prefer string instruments that were hand crafted and made over 150 years ago. There are exceptions. There are some great luthiers today making some wonderful instruments, but they generally look for their sources of inspiration to those fiddle makers in Cremonia, Italy in the 1600s. With all our science, plate theory, harmonic analysis, those wood carvers in Cremonia still had something very special. A lot of it, I'm sure has to do with time and love. We have machines that can assist when carving wood today. Understand, my specific interest happens to be String Basses, and there are some great luthiers today, such as Rumano Solano and Barrie Kolstein. Of course, Rumano went to the Cremonia School of Violin Making where he studied the ancient art. And, Barrie Kolstein, mostly tuaght by his father, has seen the insides of more old Italian fiddles and basses than any man alive. Interestingly, the greatest guitar makes lived in the 20th century, John D'Angelico and Jimmy D'Aquisto (who I knew). They were from the school of Guanarious, who was a contemporary of Stradivarous. While Stradivarius was a nobel man, and had only the woods. He set patterns and measurements, and thus today, people copy his dimensions, (that's why you see a gazillion " Stradivarius " violins, cellos, and basses, they were cut to his measurements, more or less. Guanarious was not, and was in and out of prison, and did not get the best woods. So, as he carved, he tapped the woods, and thus no two instruments were built exactly the same. Of course, their knowledge was handed down using the apprenticeship system. This lineage went clear to John D'Angelico, who switched from fiddles to guitars. Jimmy D'Aquisto's mother brought Jimmy to John, who then taught him the trade. Jimmy D'Aquisto worked with several people, but in this day and age, he didn't retain his longest held apprentice, Richard Gordon, and had a stroke, and the last lineage is sadly lost. There are some other fine guitar makers, but nothing like them. Personally I don't think speaker systems that can compare to old spruce, maple and ebony instruments lovingly carved and played with skilled hands. Yes, I'm well aware of some of the leading electronic instrument makers, Alembic, Mike Pedulla, Rick Turner and the like. Rick made me a pickup for my upright that I use for playing in a Big Band. Yes, their research and sounds are interesting. Some of the new electronic keyboards are also rather amazing - you can sample all you want, do all the math, but I don't think any of them compare to the majesty of a 9 foot Bosendorfer or a real pipe organ. I have two basses, one was built in 1820 in New England, the other in 1860s in Prague. That was before there were any electronic contraptions. I didn't mean electric guitars. My friend, Rumano Solano is carving me a new bass, which I hope to get soon. Rumano makes basses and cellos that are really wonderful. I'm sorry if this offends you. Bob C , EBbrewpunx@c... wrote: > damn them new fangled electrical gadgets... > if gawd had meant us to play electrical geetars, we would have amps in our rear ends... > and then we would discriminate between those with peavey's, and the ones with marshalls.... > fraggle > > > " Heartwork " <Heartwork@b...> wrote: > > >Hi Bob > > > >You did call them 'electrical contraptions' which sounds rather derogatory. > > > >Jo > >> Peter, please don't make assumptions about me. Yes, I also > >> play electric bass, have pickups, play electric and classical guitar. > >> Playing electric bass was how I worked my way through college. > >> > >> This is my preference. I find acoustic music much more spiritual > >> and meaningful. > > > > > > > >--- > >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > >Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release 02/08/02 > > > > > > > >To send an email to - > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 *blinks* you mean i shouldn't be just smashing these things on stage? i feel so dirty now... fraggle " lowhertz " <bc wrote: >Actually, when I wrote new fangled electrical gadgets, >I meant, ALL electronic gadgets, not electric instruments. > >Generally, I just personally prefer string instruments >that were hand crafted and made over 150 years ago. >There are exceptions. There are some great luthiers >today making some wonderful instruments, but they generally >look for their sources of inspiration to those fiddle >makers in Cremonia, Italy in the 1600s. With all our >science, plate theory, harmonic analysis, those wood carvers >in Cremonia still had something very special. > > >A lot of it, I'm sure has to do with time and love. We have >machines that can assist when carving wood today. Understand, >my specific interest happens to be String Basses, and there >are some great luthiers today, such as Rumano Solano and >Barrie Kolstein. Of course, Rumano went to the Cremonia >School of Violin Making where he studied the ancient art. And, >Barrie Kolstein, mostly tuaght by his father, has seen the >insides of more old Italian fiddles and basses than any man alive. > > >Interestingly, the greatest guitar makes lived in the 20th >century, John D'Angelico and Jimmy D'Aquisto (who I knew). >They were from the school of Guanarious, who was a contemporary >of Stradivarous. While Stradivarius was a nobel man, and had >only the woods. He set patterns and measurements, and thus >today, people copy his dimensions, (that's why you see a gazillion > " Stradivarius " violins, cellos, and basses, they were cut to >his measurements, more or less. > >Guanarious was not, and was in and out of prison, >and did not get the best woods. So, as he carved, he tapped >the woods, and thus no two instruments were built exactly >the same. Of course, their knowledge was handed down >using the apprenticeship system. This lineage went clear >to John D'Angelico, who switched from fiddles to guitars. >Jimmy D'Aquisto's mother brought Jimmy to John, who then taught >him the trade. Jimmy D'Aquisto worked with several people, >but in this day and age, he didn't retain his longest held >apprentice, Richard Gordon, and had a stroke, and the last >lineage is sadly lost. There are some other fine guitar >makers, but nothing like them. > > >Personally I don't think speaker systems that >can compare to old spruce, maple and ebony instruments >lovingly carved and played with >skilled hands. Yes, I'm well aware of some of the leading >electronic instrument makers, Alembic, Mike Pedulla, >Rick Turner and the like. Rick made me a pickup for my upright >that I use for playing in a Big Band. >Yes, their research and sounds >are interesting. Some of the new electronic keyboards >are also rather amazing - you can sample all you want, >do all the math, but I don't think any of them >compare to the majesty of a 9 foot Bosendorfer or a real >pipe organ. > >I have two basses, one was built in 1820 in New England, the >other in 1860s in Prague. That was before there were any >electronic contraptions. I didn't mean electric guitars. >My friend, Rumano Solano is carving me a new bass, which I hope >to get soon. Rumano makes basses and cellos that are really >wonderful. > >I'm sorry if this offends you. > >Bob C > > > >, EBbrewpunx@c... wrote: >> damn them new fangled electrical gadgets... >> if gawd had meant us to play electrical geetars, we would have amps >in our rear ends... >> and then we would discriminate between those with peavey's, and the >ones with marshalls.... >> fraggle >> >> >> " Heartwork " <Heartwork@b...> wrote: >> >> >Hi Bob >> > >> >You did call them 'electrical contraptions' which sounds rather >derogatory. >> > >> >Jo >> >> Peter, please don't make assumptions about me. Yes, I also >> >> play electric bass, have pickups, play electric and classical >guitar. >> >> Playing electric bass was how I worked my way through college. >> >> >> >> This is my preference. I find acoustic music much more >spiritual >> >> and meaningful. >> > >> > >> > >> >--- >> >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >> >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >> >Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release 02/08/02 >> > >> > >> > >> >To send an email to - >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2002 Report Share Posted August 27, 2002 Hi Bob > A lot of it, I'm sure has to do with time and love. We have > machines that can assist when carving wood today. I agree very much that a well crafted hand made instrument is usually better than machine made instrument - but this applies equally to electric and acoustic instruments. My favourite acoustic guitar was hand made in Holland, and my favourite electric guitar is one which I made myself (the most modern tool I used was an electric sander for getting the basic shape). > Interestingly, the greatest guitar makes lived in the 20th > century, John D'Angelico and Jimmy D'Aquisto (who I knew). > They were from the school of Guanarious, who was a contemporary > of Stradivarous. While Stradivarius was a nobel man, and had > only the woods. He set patterns and measurements, and thus > today, people copy his dimensions, (that's why you see a gazillion > " Stradivarius " violins, cellos, and basses, they were cut to > his measurements, more or less. As well respected as Stradivarius was for violins, his reputation for guitars is just the opposite - the best respected I have come across is Asturias, who I believe was 18th century. > Personally I don't think speaker systems that > can compare to old spruce, maple and ebony instruments > lovingly carved and played with > skilled hands. I think it depends very much on the instrument, the musician and the speaker system. Having worked as a sound engineer, I have heard some microphone and speaker systems which manage to amplify without any loss of quality (although these do tend to cost tens of thousands of pounds). Of course, it is always easy to find fault with any setting - for instance, it is very hard to get an orchestra balanced correctly (and equally impossible to have a general agreement on how an orchestra should be balanced). > you can sample all you want, > do all the math, but I don't think any of them > compare to the majesty of a 9 foot Bosendorfer or a real > pipe organ. Personally, I can't stand the sound of a pipe organ! I believe it was originally invented as a very early attempt to replicate an orchestra! But I do agree about the piano. My point is that every instrument has its own qualities - I have yet to hear an electric keyboard which can fully replicate the sound of a piano (although some of the latest Korg modules have now come pretty close). Alternatively, I have yet to hear an acoustic instrument that can replicate an electric guitar. I think the problem is that many people seem to think that electric instruments are somehow trying to replicate acoustic ones - and while this is true for a few instruments, the majority have been created to bring about more diversity in the sounds that can be created - and I can only see this as A Good Thing. BB Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release 02/08/02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2002 Report Share Posted October 24, 2002 HI Andy and welcome. Its a great site and I have gotten some really wonderful recipes! Hope you do too! With kindness, Beth andyle40ql <andrew.smith7 wrote: Hi, my name's Andy and I have just joined. Haven't had time to look round the site yet but will be looking for recipes that serve one. All the magazines I have seem to think the smallest number people cook for is 4. Looking forward to getting to know folks and sharingAndycontact owner: -owner Mail list: Delivered-mailing list List-Un: - no flaming arguing or denigration of others allowedcontact owner with complaints regarding posting/list or anything else. Thank you.please share/comment/inform and mostly enjoy this list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2002 Report Share Posted October 24, 2002 me from this group - " andyle40ql " <andrew.smith7 Thursday, October 24, 2002 2:33 PM Introduction > Hi, my name's Andy and I have just joined. Haven't had time to look > round the site yet but will be looking for recipes that serve one. > All the magazines I have seem to think the smallest number people > cook for is 4. Looking forward to getting to know folks and sharing > Andy > > > > contact owner: -owner > Mail list: > Delivered-mailing list > List-Un: - > > no flaming arguing or denigration of others allowed > contact owner with complaints regarding posting/list > or anything else. Thank you. > please share/comment/inform and mostly enjoy this list > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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