Guest guest Report post Posted May 14, 2003 I think the people who make a big thing out of calling themselves Christians are often the ones who just use it as a tool to 'rule' over others instead of actually quietly living the faith. I have lots of Christian friends who don't go around shouting about it and only mention it in passing when the conversation turns that way. Jo ps I also have a Pagan friend who is an ex nun. > I't would be better if people called them false Chrisitians..or nsomething > similiar rather then including Jesus C in anti Christianity> --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.481 / Virus Database: 277 - Release 13/05/03 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 14, 2003 Why would it make any difference? It was also pointed out by Amylia (?) that there is good and bad in every section, including those who have not heard the teachings of Jesus. Jo If he had changed to the biblical holy day,and not vice-versa and tried to spread the practical teachings of Jesus we might have a better world then the one we have now. ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.481 / Virus Database: 277 - Release 13/05/03 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 14, 2003 Simon >Most would agree that the world could be a better place to live.I would like to think that we all, in some way have an aim to >improve things for the future.> Many Pagans are interested in conservation. There is Pagan Animal Rights, The Dragon Environmental Network, and lots (I mean lots) of tree planting groups. These are the ones that I can think of in ten seconds, but there will be lots more. These activities are all intended to make the world a better place. People do need to be shown love, even if they rebel against it at first,ultimately that want we all would like. I agree that people need to be loved and that means accepting them as they are. How do you propose to force love on them when they rebel? Jo ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.481 / Virus Database: 277 - Release 13/05/03 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 14, 2003 Women can actually have an effect on the gender. Depending on what food you eat (an I'm afraid I cannot remember what foods do what) the secretions are either acid or alkali, and this, apparently has an effect on which sperm are able to make the full journey. I read the article some ten or more years ago, so cannot remember the fine details. Jo - Catherine Harris Wednesday, May 14, 2003 12:22 AM Re: That's it. well said, danielle, and not only that henry had syphyllus and he gave it to his wives, no doubt, and thus he made them infertile catherine >"Danielle Kichler" > > >Re: That's it. >Tue, 13 May 2003 19:14:57 -0400 > >But Henry VIII trumped up the adultery/treason charges. He wanted to get >rid of Anne Boleyn, for one, because she could not bear him a son. Back >then, people believed that men's sperm contained a tiny human that just >needed a warm "home" to incubate. Until a Dr. Fallopian came along, they >didn't know that women had a huge role in the matter. In fact, it's the guy >who determines the gender of the child; so it was Fat Schmuck's fault if his >wives didn't have sons. > >Danielle > > > >"You can no more win a war than you can win an earthquake"--Jeanette Rankin > > > > > >----Original Message Follows---- >"Peter" > > >Re: That's it. >Tue, 13 May 2003 18:43:43 +0100 > >Hi Catherine > > > two wives were beheaded for alleged adultery, very doubtful in the >evidence, which was supported by admissions from men > > who were put on the rack and tortured........ > >Not saying the allegations were *correct* - but what they were actually >tried and executed for was treason. Admittedly that was on the basis that >they were betraying the king by having affairs - technical legal thing - but >adultery per se wasn't punishable by execution, treason was. > >BB >Peter > > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.481 / Virus Database: 277 - Release 13/05/03 > >_______________ >MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > Want your email in a hurry? Get Hotmail direct to your mobile To send an email to - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 15, 2003 i have the snake goddess from knossos on my mantle piece...... catherine >"Heartwork" > > >Re: That's it. >Wed, 14 May 2003 19:35:59 +0100 > >I know absolutely nothing about Judaism, but didn't Madonna get into trouble >from the Jewish quarter for using prayer blocks/boxes (?????) in her video. > >Jo > > > To the best of my knowledge, Judaism does not because of the proscription > > against worshipping idols. Besides, focusing on the Hebrew letters is >tough > > enough without a totem to distract us! OK, there are the Torahs, but > > they're only taken out of the Ark at certain times, and the rabbi reads >from > > them. > > The Church of England uses crosses too. I suppose all religions use > > various symbols to focus the mind. In Pagan ritual it is not necessary to > > use representations, but sometimes they are used. > > > > Jo > > > > > > Sunday was the the day the sun- worshippers worshipped the sun, > > > > Constantine or Rome changed the Christian Sabbath day to Sunday to >appeal > > to the sun/ idol worshipping pagans. Thats one of the reasons why the > > catholic church uses statues and crosses etc in it's gatherings. > > > > Simon > > > > - > > EBbrewpunx > > > > Monday, May 12, 2003 9:02 PM > > Re: That's it. > > > > > > In a message dated 5/12/03 12:55:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > > amylia_21 writes: > > > > > > > > Actually, I believe the first "Christian church" took place in > > the homes of Jesus' followers, after His death. ----There weren't any big > > buildings that people go to on Sunday back then. > > > > > > > > > > they actually went to temple on saturday i believe > > > > > > To send an email to >- > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 15, 2003 I don't know why he arranged to have two beheaded and divorced the others. Danielle " You can no more win a war than you can win an earthquake " --Jeanette Rankin ----Original Message Follows---- " Peter " <Snowbow Re: That's it. Wed, 14 May 2003 17:28:48 +0100 Hi Danielle > But Henry VIII trumped up the adultery/treason charges. He wanted to get > rid of Anne Boleyn, for one, because she could not bear him a son. Back > then, people believed that men's sperm contained a tiny human that just > needed a warm " home " to incubate. Until a Dr. Fallopian came along, they > didn't know that women had a huge role in the matter. In fact, it's the guy > who determines the gender of the child; so it was Fat Schmuck's fault if his > wives didn't have sons. I will admit that this area of history is not my expertise - but it seems to me that if it was as simple as getting rid of a wife, he'd have just divorced her, like he did with his first wife. BB Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.481 / Virus Database: 277 - Release 13/05/03 _______________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 15, 2003 I don't know anything about that. I only remember the burning crosses in one of her videos. Danielle " You can no more win a war than you can win an earthquake " --Jeanette Rankin ----Original Message Follows---- " Heartwork " <Heartwork Re: That's it. Wed, 14 May 2003 19:35:59 +0100 I know absolutely nothing about Judaism, but didn't Madonna get into trouble from the Jewish quarter for using prayer blocks/boxes (?????) in her video. Jo > To the best of my knowledge, Judaism does not because of the proscription > against worshipping idols. Besides, focusing on the Hebrew letters is tough > enough without a totem to distract us! OK, there are the Torahs, but > they're only taken out of the Ark at certain times, and the rabbi reads from > them. > The Church of England uses crosses too. I suppose all religions use > various symbols to focus the mind. In Pagan ritual it is not necessary to > use representations, but sometimes they are used. > > Jo > > > Sunday was the the day the sun- worshippers worshipped the sun, > > Constantine or Rome changed the Christian Sabbath day to Sunday to appeal > to the sun/ idol worshipping pagans. Thats one of the reasons why the > catholic church uses statues and crosses etc in it's gatherings. > > Simon > > - > EBbrewpunx > > Monday, May 12, 2003 9:02 PM > Re: That's it. > > > In a message dated 5/12/03 12:55:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > amylia_21 writes: > > > > Actually, I believe the first " Christian church " took place in > the homes of Jesus' followers, after His death. ----There weren't any big > buildings that people go to on Sunday back then. > > > > > they actually went to temple on saturday i believe > > > To send an email to - > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 15, 2003 In a message dated 5/14/03 5:08:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, cait2 writes: i have the snake goddess from knossos on my mantle piece...... catherine the topless woman with the snakes in each hand? thats a nice piece... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 15, 2003 - Heartwork Wednesday, May 14, 2003 10:00 PM Re: That's it. I agree that people need to be loved and that means accepting them as they are. How do you propose to force love on them when they rebel?> you can't really. S ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.481 / Virus Database: 277 - Release 13/05/03To send an email to - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 15, 2003 I don't know the video - just read about it in a magazine. Never been a Madonna fan - wouldn't even recognise her voice. Jo > I don't know anything about that. I only remember the burning crosses in > one of her videos. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.481 / Virus Database: 277 - Release 13/05/03 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
