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> Must have been almost a year back that there was a debate on this

list

> concerning veganism and smoking. What made me determined to give

up smoking

> was that someone mentioned that as vegans we should be concerned

about the

> suffering of others.

> By forcing my fellow humans and animals to breathe in those nasty

fumes from

> my tobacco smoke I was harming them as well as myself.

> After seeing things this way, it was easier to do. I simply gave

what was

> left of my tobacco to a friend to hide from me. Thankfully, there

were no

> convenience stores nearby, so I couldn't buy any even if I'd

wanted to! It

> really isn't that bad when the temptation isn't there.

> I had tried several other methods of giving up before, but

eventually, I let

> my cravings become priority and my original reasons for giving up

seemed to

> become irrelevent or forgotten.

> Going [sorry to say this!] 'cold turkey' has definately worked for

me. I

> don't even get the craving any more. Your body needs nicotine as

much as it

> needs animal products! Keep telling yourself that!

> I found reading 'How to stop smoking and stay stopped' by Martin

Raw, helped

> a lot too. If I can do it [ex-pulling my hair out if I have to go

more than

> half an hour without my nicotine fix!] I'm sure you can! All the

very best

> of luck!

> Dee

 

Thanx for the support Dee, I've given up today (I've given up before

but this time am coinciding it randomly with joining this list anew)

Problem is, there's a tobacco selling newsagent only 30 seconds walk

away from me!

 

When i smoked I would often say things that I wished i wouldn't,

but not regret it cos all I really cared about was another cigarette

(euck!) like I'd express true feelings about meat eating and the

meat industry and make meat eaters feel guilty etc (I know there is

a debate going on whether this is right or wrong) but now that I

have given up again, it will necessarily tune my attitude down

towards meat eaters, cos I won't be able to say stuff unthinkingly,

because I won't be an addict. I think being compassionate to all

things is pretty important, but there are so many people who really

don't give a **** about anyone or anything else that ruining their

day isn't such a bad thing. But maybe I won't think that when I've

properly given up.

 

Jules

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Hi xfibber........Lots of veggies/vegans live in Brighton . It used to be my home and my son and his g/f now live in my old house near the racecourse . I think there are some people on this list who live in or near Brighton

 

 

xflibbertigibbetx [juliecadams] 16 August 2002 21:22 Subject: Hellojust thought i would say hello, didnt fill in my profile thingy and cant find it now . Anyway have been a veggie for 21 years and not a very strict vegan,always a compassionate shopper and gladly now a strict vegan. I live in Brighton , great place to be a vegan with my four year old mainly vegan but occasionaly veggie son. Take care x~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, there may be another side to the story you have not heard.---------------------------Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped?~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline>Un: send a blank message to -

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Seems several of us are new here! Any recipes anyone? Are there recipes in the archives hewre worth looking for? Hints, suggestions, anything from the "old-timers" here??? Marilyn

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Greetings everyone,

 

I am new to this group and thought I'd introduce myself.

 

My name is Alison, I'm 32 and live in Adelaide, Australia. I share my life with a 1 year old Rottweiler named Shelby, a 4 year budgie called Moby and a 2 year old rat called Chewie and my boyfriend. I am currently studying accounting and am a member of the South Australian Animal Welfare League.

 

I have been a vegetarian since I was 15 and have being trying to go vegan for some time. My main problem is that I have been unable to find a list of substitute products suitable for Australians. I love to cook so want to be able to use the correct ingredients. If anyone is able to point me in the right direction of a substitute list I would very much appreciate it.

 

Thanks

Alison

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I believe that Tofutti is an Austrailian company. They make wonderful

vegan cheese slices, cream cheese, soy ice cream, and cookies. I

could not be vegan without them!! Also, here in The States, Tofurkey

makes great vegan turkey slices and roasts. I'm not sure about a

specific list of products, but check out the PETA website. They

usually have good things. Let me know if there is a pecific subsitute

that you are seeking and I can try to help. Marisa

 

 

, " Alison Hayes "

<nxdefiant1@o...> wrote:

> Greetings everyone,

>

> I am new to this group and thought I'd introduce myself.

>

> My name is Alison, I'm 32 and live in Adelaide, Australia. I share

my life with a 1 year old Rottweiler named Shelby, a 4 year budgie

called Moby and a 2 year old rat called Chewie and my boyfriend. I

am currently studying accounting and am a member of the South

Australian Animal Welfare League.

>

> I have been a vegetarian since I was 15 and have being trying to go

vegan for some time. My main problem is that I have been unable to

find a list of substitute products suitable for Australians. I love

to cook so want to be able to use the correct ingredients. If anyone

is able to point me in the right direction of a substitute list I

would very much appreciate it.

>

> Thanks

> Alison

>

>

> --

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Here's some veggie food items in Oz:

http://www.vnv.org.au/Products.htm

 

Here's a list of restaurants and healthfood shops in

Oz http://happycow.net/australia/index.html

 

If you have a recipe you want to make vegan, please

feel free to post it and I (and others) will gladly

transform it into a vegan recipe for you.

 

 

--- Alison Hayes <nxdefiant1 wrote:

> Greetings everyone,

>

> I am new to this group and thought I'd introduce

> myself.

>

> My name is Alison, I'm 32 and live in Adelaide,

> Australia. I share my life with a 1 year old

> Rottweiler named Shelby, a 4 year budgie called Moby

> and a 2 year old rat called Chewie and my

> boyfriend. I am currently studying accounting and

> am a member of the South Australian Animal Welfare

> League.

>

> I have been a vegetarian since I was 15 and have

> being trying to go vegan for some time. My main

> problem is that I have been unable to find a list of

> substitute products suitable for Australians. I

> love to cook so want to be able to use the correct

> ingredients. If anyone is able to point me in the

> right direction of a substitute list I would very

> much appreciate it.

>

> Thanks

> Alison

>

>

>

--

>

 

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Thanks for the links MrFalafel, they will come in very handy, I've been pouring over the VNV site!

 

I am looking at trying to make some of my own products, such as substitutes for:

Sour cream

Mayonnaise

and then what to use in place of eggs, gelatine, cream etc.

 

¸..· '¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·' .·'¨¨)) ((¸¸.·' ...·' -:¦:- Alison -:¦:- ((¸¸..·'*

 

 

 

 

 

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At 02:09 AM 11/11/2003 +1030, Alison Hayes wrote:

 

>I am looking at trying to make some of my own products, such as substitutes

>for:

>Sour cream

>Mayonnaise

> and then what to use in place of eggs, gelatine, cream etc.

 

These pages should be helpful for most of those.

 

http://www.bryannaclarkgrogan.com/page/page/628669.htm

http://www.bryannaclarkgrogan.com/page/page/628710.htm

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Tofutti Bett Thank Sour Cream is the whole reason I have bene able to

stay vegan sine I switched three years ago. It tastes just like sour

cream (even my non-veg hubby eats it) and I use it to make " cream " soups,

which I love and dips for snacking.

 

If you liked Miracle Whip, you'll like Nayonaise.

 

Jaci in NC, USA

 

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:43:17 -1200 Persian <persian13 writes:

>

>

> On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 02:09:18 +1030, Alison Hayes wrote:

> >

> > I am looking at trying to make some of my own products, such as

> substitutes for:

> > Sour cream

> > Mayonnaise

> > and then what to use in place of eggs, gelatine, cream etc.

 

Jacalyn Ackerman, jaci_ackerman

NC Equine Rescue League http://www.ncerl.com

 

" Many hands make light work. "

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Hi

 

 

On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 01:25:06 +1030, Alison Hayes wrote:

> Greetings everyone,

>

> I am new to this group and thought I'd introduce myself.

>

> My name is Alison, I'm 32 and live in Adelaide, Australia. I share my life

with a 1 year old Ro

>

> I have been a vegetarian since I was 15 and have being trying to go vegan for

some time.

My main problem is that I have been unable to find a list of substitute products

suitable for

Australians. I love to cook so want to be able to use the correct ingredients.

If anyone is

able to point me in the right direction of a substitute list I would very much

appreciate it.

 

 

What products exactly do you want substitues for? I am a vegan and just

moved from Australia this year ( Melb).

 

Persian

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On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 02:09:18 +1030, Alison Hayes wrote:

>

> I am looking at trying to make some of my own products, such as substitutes

for:

> Sour cream

> Mayonnaise

> and then what to use in place of eggs, gelatine, cream etc.

 

 

For baking use Energy Egg replacer, give up fried eggs!

Try Kingland Soy Mayo. Get Agar Agar flakes for gelatine.

There is a soy cream but hard to find called Blue Lotus.

 

There's more this is just OTTOMH.

 

Persian

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Hi

 

On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 07:11:38 -0500, stphnswee wrote:

> Try vegenaise its great no more regular mayonnaise for moi.

>

 

When I left Australia earlier this year they did not have Vegenaise

anywhere that I could find it. They have an Aussie soy mayo called Kingland.

Here in NZ they import Nayonaise, expensive but yummy.

 

Persian

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Welcome to the group, and back to being vegan! =)

we do have some of the recipes filed... and i'm going to be getting

back into that again.

 

(we moved from LA to NYC and i'm still getting settled)

 

anyway.. this is a great group for vegan's w/ crockpots!

 

check out the files=)

 

jenni

On Tuesday, October 12, 2004, at 10:26 PM, kaiandtammy wrote:

 

>

>

> Hi everyone, I am new to the group.  I am going back to vegan after

> being away from it for a time.  I am real excited and a bit

> nervous.  Last time I was a vegan, I had alot of health problems.  I

> am excited to do it differently and am looking forward to trying the

> recipes I see here.  Does anyone have any good breakfast ideas? 

> Thanks

>

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Too long, trouble is there is little credible opposition. Politics sucks, polititcians suck....................

 

 

The Valley Vegan...marisa9497 <mary.reta wrote:

Hey Peter, Thanks for the welcome, sorry about the media blitz regarding our Presidential elections. How long will Tony Blair be in office??

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Here in the U.S., our founding fathers put the electoral college in place in order to avoid mob rule!! They ensured that there would never be more than two major parties in the U.S.peter hurd <swpgh01 wrote:

 

Too long, trouble is there is little credible opposition. Politics sucks, polititcians suck....................

 

 

The Valley Vegan...marisa9497 <mary.reta wrote:

Hey Peter, Thanks for the welcome, sorry about the media blitz regarding our Presidential elections. How long will Tony Blair be in office??

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Was that tongue in cheek? "our founding fathers"!........who art in heaven?

Are these the ones who saw fit to give y`all the right to bear arms?

 

The Valley Vegan....Mary Reta <marisa.9497 wrote:

 

Here in the U.S., our founding fathers put the electoral college in place in order to avoid mob rule!! They ensured that there would never be more than two major parties in the U.S.peter hurd <swpgh01 wrote:

Too long, trouble is there is little credible opposition. Politics sucks, polititcians suck....................

 

 

The Valley Vegan...marisa9497 <mary.reta wrote:

Hey Peter, Thanks for the welcome, sorry about the media blitz regarding our Presidential elections. How long will Tony Blair be in office??

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Hi all. My name is Rae and I live in DC. I am new to raw foods and it is a bit overwhelming. I have not eaten meat in years, but dairy products are hard to give up. I love to cook and I have printed all the recipes that have been posted and I am happy that I have a lot of the ingredients in my pantry and fridge. I look forward to sharing stories, experiences and eventualy meeting some of the list members. Peace and blessings to all.

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Peace and blessings sis @ RAE... I am new to it as well.. yes girl the dairy is very hard.. I also have some more recipes that one of the sistas in the group sent me this morning.. for different type of cheeses and things of the sort as well.. you can email me if you' d like and I can respond with the list or however you choose.. peace and blessings.. BE PEACE Fr33dbYlove and my name is RainRae Simms <rsimms wrote:

 

Hi all. My name is Rae and I live in DC. I am new to raw foods and it is a bit overwhelming. I have not eaten meat in years, but dairy products are hard to give up. I love to cook and I have printed all the recipes that have been posted and I am happy that I have a lot of the ingredients in my pantry and fridge. I look forward to sharing stories, experiences and eventualy meeting some of the list members. Peace and blessings to all.The measurement of wo(man) is not where s(he) stands in times of COMFORT and CONVENIENCE. But where s(he)stands during times of TRIAL and TRIBULATION..

 

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Greetings Rain and Rae:

Welcome to the group. You've made a good decision by joining. Now comes your best decision. . . Go here:

http://www.notmilk.com/ and if it takes you until the end of this year, it will behoove you to read every article on the page. If you don't decide to eliminate dairy products from your diet before or by the time you finish then your job is larger than you know. Also, be sure to sign up for the daily news letter.

Stay the course.

 

 

 

 

 

Good Health to You

Elaine

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Thanks, Corey!

, Corey <isomorphics@e...> wrote:

>

> Hello Jennifer,

>

>

> Welcome to the list.

>

> Corey...

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Hi Emma, welcome! I bet we are full of great meal ideas here on this list :).

What are you doing for breakfast?

 

Heather

 

 

 

on behalf of beelights

Mon 2/20/2006 3:07 PM

 

hello

 

I'm Emma from the UK and currently working Step 2. I am partially

veggie, eating very occasional fish (tuna). I am looking for lots of

inspiration for the next step (3) and some ideas for veggie meals that

meet the brown, green, protein criteria.

 

Best wishes,

 

Emma

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi Emma!

We met on some other list. It's great to have you here!

Greetings from Buenos Aires,

Agustina

 

 

Agustina C. Eiff

 

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beelights

Lunes, 20 de Febrero de 2006 05:07 p.m.

hello

I'm Emma from the UK and currently working Step 2. I am partially veggie, eating very occasional fish (tuna). I am looking for lots of inspiration for the next step (3) and some ideas for veggie meals that meet the brown, green, protein criteria. Best wishes,Emma

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Hi Emma :)

 

Step 3 can be a bit of a challenge for most people, let alone us vegetarians. I

spent a

looooong time on Step 3 (about 8 months I think) and what I found really helpful

were

the baby steps in the files section of radiantstep3 list. Have you perhaps

joined the

step 3 list?

When you feel ready to move up to step 3, I hope we'll be able to help you with

some

yummy meals and snacks ideas.

 

What are you having for breakfast? I am a " shake gal " myself.

 

Mika

 

-- In , " beelights " <beelights wrote:

>

> I'm Emma from the UK and currently working Step 2. I am partially

> veggie, eating very occasional fish (tuna). I am looking for lots of

> inspiration for the next step (3) and some ideas for veggie meals that

> meet the brown, green, protein criteria.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Emma

>

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