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[Guest guest]

No, my husband is also vegan ( he has been for 11 years) I've been vegan

for 15 years and was a dairy (too much dairy) veg for 7 years before

that. Our three girls, 7, 6,and 4 have always been vegan...however they

are the only vegans they know! They know it's not the norm but know the

reasons for our choices. It would be great for them to meet even one

other child who is also. We live in North Dallas, but might be

interested in going to that Vegetarian Summerfest...where/ when is it

again? Jackie

 

Susan M. Prepejchal wrote:

>

> Just out of curiosity, am I the only one here whose husband is also

> vegetarian? OK, ok, so my home life is harmonious...it's just the rest

> of the culture we're at odds with! Susan

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" Susan M. Prepejchal " wrote:

>

> Just out of curiosity, am I the only one here whose husband is also

> vegetarian? OK, ok, so my home life is harmonious...it's just the rest

> of the culture we're at odds with! Susan

 

No, Susan... My DH is a vegetarian too. About 6 years ago we decided to

do this together. He was an exclusive meat eater, almost three times a

day, with vegetables being defined as french fries. Yup, the typical

bachelor. I, on the other hand, rarely ate meat anyway, didn't like to

cook it, don't remember enjoying it as a kid. My mother was trying to

cook more vegetarian foods for herself and suggested it to us. DH lost

over 40 pounds and loves to cook (more than I, actually) and is great at

experimenting. He still tends to eat more high-fat choices (he loves

pizza, for example), but I give him so much credit for doing what he

did. We both have remained vegetarians, even though we don't have any

friends who are (his friends still give him a hard time, but they

respect our choices).

 

Pam

 

 

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" Susan M. Prepejchal " wrote:

>

> This neighbor who eats the meat-based diet has a wife who DID have a

> stroke (and a broken hip-osteoporosis?) a couple of years ago. He told

> me proudly that her cholesterol level was 300 then and that it didn't

> mean a thing because tests showed that her arteries are perfectly clear.

> HUH?????

 

In defense of that argument, I suppose she may have had very high HDL

(the good stuff) which raised her total cholesterol level but protected

her from heart disease. I would find it difficult to believe that

someone could have an LDL of 300 (the bad stuff) and say that they had

clean arteries... of course, it does happen.

But still....

Pam

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Hi, my name is Susan also and I live in Saratoga Springs, NY with my husband

and two vegan-from-birth children (3 and 6). I found it interesting what

you said about the woman always being the one to be vegetarian first. In my

case, it was my husband. When we first met 10 years ago, we were both

omnivores, but he had been thinking about being vegetarian for a long time

and did not eat meat at home, only outside. He had actually tried to be

vegetarian in college, but gave up because he didn't know what to eat.

Gradually, as we discussed all of the related issues (health, animal rights,

environment), we both decided that we wanted to become vegetarian. He made

the move first, but I soon followed when I realized I wasn't eating much

meat anymore and I didn't miss it. My husband and I became vegan soon

after. I think what made it easier for us was the fact that we lived in New

York City at the time and had access to a lot of great vegetarian

restaurants. Also, I liked to cook and found vegetarian cooking challenging

and fun. It must be hard when only one person in the family is vegetarian,

but I do know many people who started off that way and later their spouse

became vegetarian also, and yes, mostly it's the woman who starts first.

Maybe women are generally more aware of suffering and capable of empathizing

with it than most men. Or maybe they have less inhibitions about living

(showing) what they feel. My situation seems to be unusual.

 

Susan C.

 

 

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Wednesday, February 28, 2001 2:10 PM

(unknown)

 

 

> Well, I'm glad to " meet " all those who answered my question about whether

> or not anyone is married to a vegetarian. THere are a lot of you! In

> our case, I went vegetarian very suddenly (and no, I " d never read *Diet

> for a New America*...but I am making up for that now!) after some

> enlightening experiences. My husband ate whatever I made, but he

> continued to eat meat away from home and occasionally bought coldcuts for

> himself for maybe a year. THen, we werre moving to a new town and

> starting a new job and I mentioned that maybe we ought to be consistant

> if we're going to be eating at new collegues' homes, etc... and at that

> point he quit eating meat altogether. I consider myself lucky. I had no

> idea what I was embarking upon the day I decided to quit meat.

>

> I stick to a vegan diet 98% of the time, but he hasn't been willing,

> which is why the kids favor cheese (microbial enzymes!) on their pizza

> and vanilla icecream on occasion.

>

> I do wonder why it is so much more common for the wife to be the

> instigator for a vegetarian lifestyle change...I suppose I should read

> *The Sexual Politics of Meat*--can't remember if I read it long ago, and

> I'm sure it would address this issue. Susan

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I bought a book for my son called " Herb, The Vegetarian Dragon " (at B & N).

It's very cute, all about a group of dragons who regularly feast on people,

except for one dragon named Herb who would rather spend his time tending his

garden and doesn't want to hurt anyone. It's also teaches tolerance for

those (on both sides) who think differently.

 

Susan C.

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Tuesday, February 27, 2001 6:41 PM

Re: (unknown)

 

 

> Does anyone else have favorite vegetarian books, videos, etc... for

> children? I haven't run across much beyond the Victor books and the

> Simpsons episode... susan

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In a message dated 3/6/01 7:52:18 AM Central Standard Time, civics

writes:

 

 

>

 

I just checked out Herb's cookbook from the library! He has a website

too: www.dragonherb.com

 

~Tracey

~mom to Brandon 08/25/96

~due with #2 07/26/01

 

" I did then what I knew how to do. When you know better, you do better. "

--Maya Angelou

 

 

 

 

 

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Susan C.,

 

Who is the author of *Herb the Vegetarian* and what age group would it

most appeal to?

 

Susan P.

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It was written by Jules Bass and it's probably best for the 4-10 year age

group.

 

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Tuesday, March 06, 2001 10:54 AM

Re: (unknown)

 

 

> Susan C.,

>

> Who is the author of *Herb the Vegetarian* and what age group would it

> most appeal to?

>

> Susan P.

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The Herb the Vegetarian Dragon website is adorable. My kids will love

it! susan

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Hi Anne

 

Im actually in Hartlepool, but im up and around in Newcastle quiet a bit -

need to escape the small minded ness of hartlepool. so any suggestions would

be very welcome.

 

Love lou

 

 

> " Anne Grainger " <annejrgrainger

>vegan-network

>vegan-network

> (unknown)

>Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:18:48 -0000

>

>

>Hi everyone,

>

>I agree with the general concensous that Hayley has been excellent in

>setting up the network. Cheers!

>

>

><<<<The major problem ive found so far is eating out, i live in the north

>east now (formerly of brighton - where its easy to be vegan etc.) but

>in the north east, i was the only vegetarian that i knew, never mind

>vegan, so its realy hard to find specialist shops and restaurants

>that arnt terribly expensive.>>>>

>

>Lou

>I live in the north east too, in newcastle. where exactly are you? (peoples

>view of the north of england varies so much, depending on how far down

>south

>they live, I find. Although due to the foot and mouth we've sudenly

>appeared

>on the map.) If you are close to newcastle I could tell you some places to

>eat and stuff about other groups too. However I'm a very new vegan and so

>pretty nieve!

>

>Lots of love Anne

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[Guest guest]

Here are some contacts for Middlesbrough and Tyne and Wear.

No-one listed for Hartlepool though.

Paul Ridden of Animal Action is certainly vegan and happy to be

contacted by other vegans in the area.

 

http://www.veggies.org.uk/acd/europe/uk/england/countyc.htm#Clev

http://www.veggies.org.uk/acd/europe/uk/england/countyt.htm

 

Lesley

 

 

> Hi Anne

>

> Im actually in Hartlepool, but im up and around in Newcastle quiet

a bit -

> need to escape the small minded ness of hartlepool. so any

suggestions would

> be very welcome.

>

> Love lou

[Guest guest]

I have looked every where for this website...can you help?

What exactly is the address for Herb the Vegetarian Dragon?

Thanks,

Rhonda

 

 

 

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Thursday, March 08, 2001 8:49 AM

 

Re: (unknown)

 

 

The Herb the Vegetarian Dragon website is adorable. My kids will love

it! susan

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http://www.dragonherb.com/

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/21/01 7:28:28 AM Central Standard Time,

herbalgirl writes:

 

 

> What exactly is the address for Herb the Vegetarian Dragon?

>

 

www.dragonherb.com

 

~Tracey

~mom to Brandon 08/25/96

~due with #2 07/26/01

 

" I did then what I knew how to do. When you know better, you do better. "

--Maya Angelou

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Maria,

I think we share some issues! My husband waited a year before following

me into vegetarianism, and he is less enthusiastic about being vegan than

I am, although I cook vegan at home. Because their dad did not give up

on cheese pizza, my kids eat pizza with cheese, too. My son, who is 8,

is VERY picky and almost lives on pizza. We buy a vegetarian-rennet,

organic mozzarella from a natural foods warehouse in bulk and then freeze

it and use it only for pizza. I've come to accept that we cannot be

" perfect " ...

 

A transition to vegetarianism takes some time for some people, but it

sounds like your family is pretty " together " on the issues and it may be

only a matter of time. Feel free to email me privately if you want to

talk more about this! Susan

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I found with my kids that soy products tasted better to them when they

hadn't had the " original " for a while... soy yogurt didn't taste good until

they had been off dairy yogurt for a couple of weeks, same for cheese

substitutes and soy and rice milks.

 

Karen

 

>

> Maria Rasmussen [amigosaqui]

> Monday, April 30, 2001 1:38 PM

>

> (unknown)

>

>

> Hi. I recently stopped eating all meat (about 2

> months ago) for health reasons, but since then I have

> made a more conscious decision to avoid meat for

> environmental, ethical, and spiritual reasons as well.

> I'm also in the process of getting rid of all my

> leather goods, and am searching for alternatives to

> household items that contain or are made using animal

> by-products, including the foods we eat. My 3-yr-old

> son currently doesn't eat meat because he doesn't like

> it, but is totally dependent on dairy, and is a very

> picky eater to boot. I don't know that he'll ever be

> able to give up his favorite yogurt! Having children

> who are picky eaters is a normal parenting issue, but

> trying to raise them on a vegan diet makes things more

> difficult. Can anyone give me some suggestions?

>

> By the way, my loving husband is trying to understand

> (and even agrees with) some of my reasons for deciding

> to live my life this way, but he hasn't been very

> supportive of my goals to change our son's diet. He

> feels that since he grew up consuming meat and dairy

> and he's healthy, it should be ok for our child to eat

> it too (if he ever decides to.) Currently I am the

> only person I know who has made this important life

> decision, and I'm feeling a bit lonely in my efforts

> to change not only my family's eating habits, but our

> entire way of life. Can any of you friendly

> vegetarians out there let me know how you made these

> changes in your own lives, and what kind of resources

> did you find to help? Thanks!

>

> Maria

>

>

>

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>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/3/2001 11:04:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

amigosaqui writes:

 

 

> My 3-yr-old

> son currently doesn't eat meat because he doesn't like

> it, but is totally dependent on dairy, and is a very

> picky eater to boot. I don't know that he'll ever be

> able to give up his favorite yogurt! Having children

> who are picky eaters is a normal parenting issue, but

> trying to raise them on a vegan diet makes things more

> difficult. Can anyone give me some suggestions?

>

>

 

There are some wonderful tasting soy yogurts out there, Nancy's, Silk and

Whole Soy are pretty tasty, personally, I like Nancy's best! I don't really

have much advice for feeding picky eaters, my 17 month old son eats anything

I give him, he even loves brussel sprouts! Just remember, if you have only

healthy food in the house then your child will eat it, they won't let

themselves starve.

 

Sara

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[Guest guest]

Reply to Lesley

 

You are one intelligent woman

 

No one, but no-one understood it

 

congratulations

 

Graham

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" Lesley Dove " <100706.3632

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Monday, May 28, 2001 20:49

(unknown)

 

 

vegan-network, " Lee Carter " <lee@j...> wrote:

> See If you can get this one

>

> Graham

>

> BRAIN TEASER

>

> > A man goes into a shop to ask the price of something.

> > " How much for one? " asks the man, " £1.20 " replies the shopkeeper.

> " And

> > ten? " , " £2.40 for ten " the shopkeeper replies. The man says: " In

that

> > case I'll take 210 " . The shopkeeper charges him £3.60. What is

he

> > buying?

 

Is it door numbers at £1.20 per digit?

 

Lesley

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Thank you Tom Biling for that,

Have been watching my own judgments coming up.

 

Have a great day in Awareness

Celeste

 

" Who would you be without your story? " (Byron Katie)

 

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Eric

 

Thank you for the wonderful article that was " food for thought " . This

article did spark many thoughts in me and I hope in others.

 

I came to the raw philosophy through a different direction than most. I am

of the opinion that the raw lifestyle is just part of the equation of being

and not the total answer to what is needed for each individual.

 

The article does suggest that each individual use their own mind and come to

their own understanding and not let themselves be lead. I say follow your

heart and it will guide you to what ever you are in need of.

 

Light and Love

Ramona

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Friday, June 22, 2001 7:37 AM

[RawSeattle] (unknown)

 

 

> I got this article from an acquaintance of mine and thought you all

> may want to peruse it. Just to know what is being said out there.

>

> Eric.

>

>

> GULLIBILITY AND DIETARY SNAKE OIL:.....

[Guest guest]

Welcome! Crockpots are wonderful for people on the go or just an easy dinner.

I love mine but admit I don't have many recipes. That's why I joined so I

could get more too! Hope you find something that helps. Robin

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Good luck, Fraggle

 

Our government seems to be committed to nuclear power as well, and

incinerators. There's no end to their stupidity!

 

Jo

 

 

> Greenpeace USA wrote:

>

> > Greenpeace Action Alert, November 15, 2001

> >

> > >>Tell Your Representatives to End Nuclear Power --

> > Don't Subsidize it Even More!

> >

> > After September 11th, it has become increasingly evident

> > that nuclear power should have no role in our energy future.

> > However, Congress is still looking to pass an energy bill

> > that will give additional money to the nuclear industry and

> > extend the licenses of creaky old reactors. The terrorist

> > attacks of Sept. 11th made many American's re-examine the

> > serious threat that nuclear power represents. An accident

> > at a power plant could kill tens of thousands of citizens,

> > make parts of our landscape uninhabitable and cost taxpayers

> > billions of dollars. These plants will always be subject to

> > accidents and sabotage. Now is the time to make sure your

> > representatives in Congress put an end to this dangerous

> > source of electricity.

> >

 

 

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Fraggle

 

> A (brave?) New World

> Omar Shariff

 

I wish them all luck.

 

Jo

 

 

 

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In a message dated 12/22/01 9:10:38 AM Pacific Standard Time,

Heartwork writes:

 

<< Fraggle

 

> A (brave?) New World

> Omar Shariff

 

I wish them all luck.

 

Jo

>>

so do i...so do i...

i didn't agree with everything that was said..just thought it was interesting

and thought i would share......

cheers

fraggle

*bounds off to see LOTR again*

[Guest guest]

Fraggle

 

It seems like America is refusing to abide by, or refusing to join, or

renaging (sp?) on all of the pacts that do any good. I hope the mass of

American people soon come to realise what their Government is like. I hope

ours do to.

 

Jo

 

 

> United States Refuses to Abide by Geneva Convention

 

 

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