depression

March 1, 2007

Perhaps consider seeing a homeopath. There are a number of effective remedies

(Nat

mur, Aurum, Ignatia amara, Sepia, etc., etc., etc.) to treat depression. A

professional

homeopath can recommend the proper remedy for you; they will be seeking the

homeopathic remedy to treat the underlying cause of your depression, not just

the

symptoms of depression.

Also, there is a terrific product by Amazon Herb Co called Pure Camu. Camu Camu

is a

berry which grows in the Amazon Rainforest Basin. Each berry contains 30 times

more Vit

C than an orange. Drinking the Amazon Herb powered berries in water each days

tells the

body to release Serotonin (mood balancing chemical in the brain) which naturally

elevates

one's mood. Many have found this nutritional drink to be a God send for S.A.D.

or other

depressive states. Pure Camu has been found to be essential for an energetic

body and

sharp mind, as well as helping to regulate the acid/alkaline balance in the

body. In my

experience, it possesses these and many other healthful qualities.

To your well being,

Cathleen Springer

Certified Homeopath

cathleen.amazonherb.net

, Rollie Smith <rolliesmth wrote:

>

> 2/28/2007, Wednesday

> Lots of physical exercise! Sweat a lot! Move a lot!

>

> Kirit Mehta <kem_keme wrote:

> What to do to remove depression or bad mood.

>

> Want to start your own business? Learn how on Small Business.

>

March 11, 2007

On the topic of Depression, ADHD, allergies,

anything to do with the body-mind connection

(which is of course everything)

My dear cyber friend Dr Phil Bate has now made

his E-book available free of charge at his website.

It contains fascinating case histories of people

with horrendous psychological problems cured

not by delving into childhood traumas, but by

working with allergies, food sensitivities and

nutritional deficiencies.

And, in reverse, he has helped people with allergies

and asthma by changing brain waves, using

bio-feedback.

Dr Bate is a retired clinical psychologist who

ended up working with food and biofeedback.

Wonderful gentleman, now in his late seventies.

This is his life's work and I can tell you he is not

in it for the money.

The website is a wealth of information.

Take a look. http://drbate.com

Ien in the Kootenays

http://freegreenliving.com

March 11, 2007

Isn't it wonderful! No drugs! No psychotherapy! No

blood tests! ect... I do the same thing for my clients

also. Diet and Stress reduction...the main cause of

dis-ease in the body. Nutrition education and

Biofeedback therapy, plus the availablilty of over 200

alternative healing modalities.

Jenny Kernan

Quantum Biofeedback Therapist

--- Ieneke van Houten <ienvan wrote:

> On the topic of Depression, ADHD, allergies,

> anything to do with the body-mind connection

> (which is of course everything)

>

> My dear cyber friend Dr Phil Bate has now made

> his E-book available free of charge at his website.

>

> It contains fascinating case histories of people

> with horrendous psychological problems cured

> not by delving into childhood traumas, but by

> working with allergies, food sensitivities and

> nutritional deficiencies.

>

> And, in reverse, he has helped people with

> allergies

> and asthma by changing brain waves, using

> bio-feedback.

>

> Dr Bate is a retired clinical psychologist who

> ended up working with food and biofeedback.

> Wonderful gentleman, now in his late seventies.

>

> This is his life's work and I can tell you he is not

> in it for the money.

>

> The website is a wealth of information.

> Take a look. http://drbate.com

>

> Ien in the Kootenays

> http://freegreenliving.com

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

October 10, 2007

Colon cleanses with Superfood and a juicer work well.

-------------- Original message ----------------------

" godlovegerry " <godlovegerry

> Anyone suffering from depression? I am taking Prozac. I have been

> taking it of and on for sometime now. But still I experience a real

> heaviness and sheer exhaustion, sleepyness and I struggle to

> physically do anything.I have had tests for a variety of other

October 10, 2007

Prozac . . . just another medical Rx bandaid. Doesn't 'fix' the

problem, only masks it not to mention side effects.

, " godlovegerry "

<godlovegerry wrote:

>

> Anyone suffering from depression? I am taking Prozac. I have been

> taking it of and on for sometime now. But still I experience a real

> heaviness and sheer exhaustion, sleepyness and I struggle to

October 10, 2007

I don't think chiropractors could be members of the AMA because

their license is D.C., not M.D., but why would they anyways?

Chiropractors are a good option for nutritional knowledge sometimes.

DLPA, low-dose lithium, Tyrosine, 5-HTP - all are sometimes good

for depression, depending upon the cause.

jp

What most people dont' realize, even MDs, your whole health starts with your nervous system.All impluses to each and every organ, the things that made them work, come from the Nervous system, and its channels to the brain activity.Interrupstions in that nervous system cause organ failures.See? It's simple.No wonder MDs hate Chiropractors, the Chiropractors KNOW this, and refuse to become members of the AMA. The AMA is a union after all, looking after its constituants.Want to meet the smartest Natural cure doctor you can meet, talk to a good Chiro.Pain..pain also comes from your Nervous system. Its not a muscle as you might assume, its the pressure of a musle OR other ON your nerve.Free up your bad connections...free up your heart misfires.Stuff the Medical community or drug companies dont want YOU to know.

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October 11, 2007

Hi,

I've had short-term depression and used St. John's Wort

successfully. My significant other is now using it for depression.

Germany had a big research project comparing St. John's Wort to

prescriptions for depression. The findings were that St. John's Wort

worked as well and had fewer side effects. If you were treated by a

German doctor, you'd be taking St. John's Wort. I noticed no

undesireable side effects at all.

It's such a shame that our medical establishment sold out to the big

pharmaceutical companies.

Jeff

, " montaraspeaks "

<MontaraSpeaks wrote:

>

> Prozac . . . just another medical Rx bandaid. Doesn't 'fix' the

> problem, only masks it not to mention side effects.

>

> , " godlovegerry "

> <godlovegerry@> wrote:

> >

> > Anyone suffering from depression? I am taking Prozac. I have been

> > taking it of and on for sometime now. But still I experience a

real

> > heaviness and sheer exhaustion, sleepyness and I struggle to

>

October 11, 2007

Prozac can cause weight gain is what I came to realize.

October 13, 2007

Have you ever had your thyroid or adrenal function tested?

Best,

> Anyone suffering from depression? I am taking Prozac. I have been

> taking it of and on for sometime now. But still I experience a real

> heaviness and sheer exhaustion, sleepyness and I struggle to

> physically do anything.I have had tests for a variety of other

October 16, 2007

Let me preface this by I am a psychiatrist and I use a lot of natural

methods instead of medication. Prozac is famous for this, in the beginning

you feel pumped up and great then you start to get a chronic fatigue and

even some weight gain. Other SSRI's do better but over time can be similar.

The dual acting ones can be better, the effexor I dislike almost everyone

doses it improperly, it's not dual acting until you get over 225mg.

Cymbalta is dual acting from the first mg.

Do yourself a favor. Get some Sam-e start 400mg twice a day and you should

start to feel better in 4 days. It MATTERS A LOT what brand you get. Some

brands are horrible and don't test well.

vitamin shoppe is inexpensive compared to others and tests well. they also

make a 400mg tablet

you should be taking omega 3's as well vitatamin shoppe brand is good

because the fat content is good ie the epa count some capsules are very

poor. Nordic naturals is another good brand. Take 4 a day

Then if you are inclinced and believe get yourself to someone very qualified

in acupunture for the rest of your treatment. I don't know what time of day

your moods fluctuate, when you have your fatigue/sadness/irritability but

that is your TCM to figure out and treat. If you do acupuncture they should

be board certified, not someone who took a weekend workshop or a 500 hour

course.

These natural supplements work JUST AS WELL and do not carry the side

effects/weight gain issues.

Since prozac has a half life of one week, it will take almost 2 months for

it to clear your system. This means it will do a natural taper on it's own

and there is no need to 'wean off it' like the shorter acting SSRI's.

As always check with your doctor, this is not considered medical advice/this

is not a doctor/patient relationshionship etc etc but Sam-e was a

prescription drug in Europe for many years and it is wonderful. I put a lot

of people on it.

_____

On Behalf Of Michelle

Ives

Friday, October 12, 2007 7:04 PM

Re: Depression

Have you ever had your thyroid or adrenal function tested?

Best,

> Anyone suffering from depression? I am taking Prozac. I have been

> taking it of and on for sometime now. But still I experience a real

> heaviness and sheer exhaustion, sleepyness and I struggle to

> physically do anything.I have had tests for a variety of other

March 25, 2008

A woman posted on an essential oils exchange letter that her husband

had quite severe bipolar disease and the blend " Peace and Calming "

from Young Living would calm him down. She would diffuse it in the

home, and he would stop ranting nd raving. Anectdotal, of course, but

no side effects and can be used with other meds. Scents do affect the

brain, and this may have happened to the husband. Check out their

website and/or call one of their representatives. They cannot

diagnose over the phone or give medical advice, though.

Diann

August 14, 2008

Hello everyone

I would very much like to support and help the lady who has depression .

I also have suffered from this ...

I believe '' depression '' comes in two main forms . One is as an illness , such

as bipolar ; the other is a reaction to negative current ( or past ) events that

are in your life .

I have a few questions I would like to ask if that is okay . Do you also suffer

from anxiety or panic ? Is there anything of significance in your life now

that you worry or are unhappy about ?.Have you had trauma in your life ? that

has not been dealt with ?

Love and Light

Silver x

--- On Wed, 8/13/08, cindy_midcalf <cindy_midcalf wrote:

cindy_midcalf <cindy_midcalf

[CrystalHW] Re: Manifesting...

Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 1:34 AM

Donna,

I'm so glad you asked for help with this very difficult issue. There

does seem to be a biological component, although whether the mental

affects the physical or the other way around, or maybe both, I'm not sure.

Sometimes depression comes from hanging on to old pain. If this sounds

familiar, jet or obsidian might help draw out the grief or sadness and

let it go. Carnelian is also good for energy, and for transmuting

sadness to peace.

I have a feeling that sunstone would work for you, bringing you light

and energy.

Let us know how you are doing--

Cindy

CrystalHealing- workshop, Donna Magee

<hotflash@.. .> wrote:

>

> Hi Maria perhaps this takes time. I have a new doctor (ND) who is

> working on my nutrition and I have been on thyroid meds from a MD for

> years. I will ask her about Lugol. I do have books-its amazing how

> this condition can take away any basic common sense-its like it

> fights you for its survival. Donna

>

> On 11 Aug 2008, at 2:39 pm, drmoratto wrote:

>

> Hi Donna,

>

> I understand working hard to get rid of depression, but it is my

> experience that " working hard " on this type of thing doesn't do it.

>

> Have you checked your thyroid lately?

> Or perhaps there are some amino-acids lacking in your body?

> I came to the conclusion that there is a real physical element

> behind depression.

>

> I was like this and one day decided to pay attention to my thyroid

> and then I started to take Lugol. I have no idea what the thing did

> to my thyroid, but boy, it lifted my depression in 2 seconds.

>

> Do some search on what is not balanced in your body.

>

> Just a suggestion.

>

> Now, there are many crystals that can help depression.

> Have you tried them?

> Do you have any books which you can check for crystals?

>

> Blessings,

> Maria

>

August 14, 2008

Go get your thyroid and all hormones checked. I was in a situation

sort of like yours years ago. I found a doctor that checked

everything including vitamin and mineral deficiencies. I too was a

victim of antidepressants for years. There is hope. Don't give up.

You might want to look for a doctor that is a DO

Liz

, " ravenflight393 "

<ravenflight393 wrote:

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> I found it necessary to go off antidepressants. I had been taking

them

> for Obsessive compulsive disorder. Since going off of them about 2

> months ago I have become extremely depressed. I have often been

> depressed because I am disabled and have a very difficult life but

I

> have never experienced anything like this. This goes way beyond

that

> previous unhappiness. I beleive that withdrawal itself produced

the

> problem. But since it has been a little more than 2 months now I

am

> afraid that the drugs caused permanenet brain damage and that I

will

> never be O.k. again. I feel so empty inside. I force myself to

> function but it doesn't releive the emptiness and I am unable to

get

> interested in anything. I have always loved to read for instance

but I

> can't read anymore,reading seems pointless. I think about killing

> myself everyday and research methods to do so because when I am

> planning suicide is the only time I feel some hope of controlling

my

> own fate and stopping the emptiness and the pain. Circumstances

> prevent me from seeking counseling. Does anyone know anything that

> might help?

>

August 15, 2008

I've heard a lot of good things about SAMe. Here is some info from

Dr. Weil on depression and it mentions SAMe and some other things.

http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/QAA400334/Are-You-Really-Depressed.html

And, more about SAMe:

http://www.healthy.net/scr/Column.asp?Id=109

I really hope this information helps.

> Hello, I am new to this group and looking for alternatives to

> medication for depression. I have been off/on anti-depressants for

> almost 20 years, always told by doctors I *needed* medication, but

> have not had any lasting improvements with it. I also have a daughter

> with high-functioning autism - my experience with her has led me to

> distrust medical doctors/pharma companies in general, and I no longer

> want to go that route for myself either.

>

> I have read about Omega 3 helping, has anyone tried this? If so, what

> brand? I have heard about St. John's Wort, 5-HTP and acupuncture - I

> appreciate hearing from anyone helped by these or anything else!

> Thanks - Karen

>

August 15, 2008

Hi Cindy Hi Silver thanks for your support it means a lot. I was born

to a very depressed alcoholic mom who's favorite saying was " if you

laugh in the morning you will cry at night " I suffered from anxiety

for years and am 6 months off the clonipin I have been taking for

that for the last 10 years. I quite smoking 14 years ago and have

never had a problem with alcohol. I believe I was born with some kind

of very sad energy pattern-now in my 50's for some reason I want to

live. I dumped my MD and have a wonderful ND so physically I am

feeling better because she is addressing some fundamental issues

including my depression. It sounds " Nuts " but I don't want to hurt

things including crystals with my sadness. It drives most people

away. Thanks for listening. Donna

On 14 Aug 2008, at 4:18 am, Diane Marie wrote:

Hello everyone

I would very much like to support and help the lady who has depression .

I also have suffered from this ...

I believe '' depression '' comes in two main forms . One is as an

illness , such as bipolar ; the other is a reaction to negative

current ( or past ) events that are in your life .

I have a few questions I would like to ask if that is okay . Do you

also suffer from anxiety or panic ? Is there anything of

significance in your life now that you worry or are unhappy

about ?.Have you had trauma in your life ? that has not been dealt

with ?

Love and Light

Silver x

--- On Wed, 8/13/08, cindy_midcalf <cindy_midcalf wrote:

cindy_midcalf <cindy_midcalf

[CrystalHW] Re: Manifesting...

Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 1:34 AM

Donna,

I'm so glad you asked for help with this very difficult issue. There

does seem to be a biological component, although whether the mental

affects the physical or the other way around, or maybe both, I'm not

sure.

Sometimes depression comes from hanging on to old pain. If this sounds

familiar, jet or obsidian might help draw out the grief or sadness and

let it go. Carnelian is also good for energy, and for transmuting

sadness to peace.

I have a feeling that sunstone would work for you, bringing you light

and energy.

Let us know how you are doing--

Cindy

CrystalHealing- workshop, Donna Magee

<hotflash@.. .> wrote:

>

> Hi Maria perhaps this takes time. I have a new doctor (ND) who is

> working on my nutrition and I have been on thyroid meds from a MD for

> years. I will ask her about Lugol. I do have books-its amazing how

> this condition can take away any basic common sense-its like it

> fights you for its survival. Donna

>

> On 11 Aug 2008, at 2:39 pm, drmoratto wrote:

>

> Hi Donna,

>

> I understand working hard to get rid of depression, but it is my

> experience that " working hard " on this type of thing doesn't do it.

>

> Have you checked your thyroid lately?

> Or perhaps there are some amino-acids lacking in your body?

> I came to the conclusion that there is a real physical element

> behind depression.

>

> I was like this and one day decided to pay attention to my thyroid

> and then I started to take Lugol. I have no idea what the thing did

> to my thyroid, but boy, it lifted my depression in 2 seconds.

>

> Do some search on what is not balanced in your body.

>

> Just a suggestion.

>

> Now, there are many crystals that can help depression.

> Have you tried them?

> Do you have any books which you can check for crystals?

>

> Blessings,

> Maria

August 15, 2008

, " ravenflight393 "

<ravenflight393 wrote:

Hi Everyone,

I found it necessary to go off antidepressants. I had been taking

them for Obsessive compulsive disorder. Since going off of them about

2 months ago I have become extremely depressed. I have often been

depressed because I am disabled and have a very difficult life but I

have never experienced anything like this. This goes way beyond that

previous unhappiness. I beleive that withdrawal itself produced the

problem. But since it has been a little more than 2 months now I am

afraid that the drugs caused permanenet brain damage and that I will

never be O.k. again. I feel so empty inside. I force myself to

function but it doesn't releive the emptiness and I am unable to get

interested in anything. I have always loved to read for instance but I

can't read anymore,reading seems pointless. I think about killing

myself everyday and research methods to do so because when I am

planning suicide is the only time I feel some hope of controlling my

own fate and stopping the emptiness and the pain. Circumstances

prevent me from seeking counseling. Does anyone know anything that

might help?

Hello,

I also have gone off antidepressants, in fact around the same time

as you did, about 2 months ago. I never found them to be helpful, and

I felt that they were causing me to steadily put on weight, so I

weaned myself off them. Perhaps you stopped taking them without doing

it gradually, so you are having more of a withdrawal reaction?

I really think you need to see a professional about the serious

suicidal feelings you have been having. Someone must have dispensed

the antidepressants to you...you must speak to them about your

suicidal feelings.

I too was an avid reader who lost interest in it when I was

depressed. But I find that I am starting to find pleasure in reading

again. The withdrawal process from antidepressants can take some

time, but it will end. I have never heard of brain damage being

caused by antidepressants (and I am in the mental health profession,

ironically...) - so don't let this false belief make you more depressed.

If you google the name of the antidepressant that you were on, and

then add, " forums " , you'll find that there are many discussion forums

with members in your situation, who are having a difficult time coming

off antidepressants. You might find kindred spirits there, and the

communication with others might help with your suicidal feelings.

I sincerely hope things improve for you soon. Just remember that

this too shall pass.

Blessings, Janet

August 15, 2008

Have you tried to talk to someone about how you feel? It is entirely possible

that the drug withdrawal is doing this to you. There may be another medication

to help you through the transition time.

I also suffer from depression but nowhere near as bad as you are. I find that

St. John's Wort helps, along with 5 HTP. I was just reading about something

called mulungu, which is supposed to help with anxiety and depression.

I know it's hard to say " think positive " when there isn't much in your life that

is positive, but you never know - things could change for the better.

" He is your friend, your partner,

your defender -- your dog. You are

his life, his love, his leader.

He will be yours, faithful and

true, to the last beat of his heart.

You owe it to him to be worthy

of such devotion. " - unknown

August 15, 2008

Hi,

The content of your message skaked me, Few months ago I was in a

place of emptiness and it took much kindness and tenderness, no I

mean all the kindness and tenderness I had and more to go through

this state of being. It was nothing compare to you, however where it

brough me is to a quiet crative place where i have never been before

and denied myself to even imagine in the past.

I have no miracle solution because it is such a difficult place to be

and still your message was with me. And then later today I planned

the net and found this. I know it sounds 'intellectual' reading

about what to do, i don't pretend it IS it but I cannot just stand

and read your message only.

Dr. Gordon, author of Unstuck: Your Guide to the Seven-Stage Jo=rney

Out of Depression, talks with Dr. Oz and his wife, Lisa, and Dr.

=ichael Roizen about how to treat depression by using alternative

methods.<=R> In Unstuck, Dr. Gordon outlines his seven-step journey

to t=eating depression.

1. The call. The first step is to become =ware of your depression.

Many people go through life and don't really know=what's going on,

Dr. Gordon says. He advises people to start by asking

the=selves, " What's going on? " He also says to take The Center for

Epidemiolog=cal Studies-Depression test (CES-D) developed by the

National Institute of=Mental Health. This series of questions will

help you focus not only on wh=ther you're depressed, but on what some

of the issues of your depression a=e.

2. Look for guides. Look for people who can help y=u, Dr. Gordon

says. In terms of a professional guide, be very clear about what kind

of therapist you want. " It's a process that I think is wor=h

investing time, energy and money in because it will save you so much

dow= the road, " he says.

3. Surrendering to change. In this stag=, it's critically important

to begin to move. " Physical exercise, with the=exception of talking

with another sympathetic, intelligent, trained human =eing, is the

single best treatment for depression, " Dr. Gordon says.

4. Dealing with demons. All of us deal with demons, such as

procra=tination, guilt, shame and loneliness. Rather than trying to

suppress them= try to talk out the problem.

5. The dark night of the so=l. Dr. Gordon says this is the time when

we're in despair, when nothin= seems to work. " It's important to

acknowledge that these times exist. We'=e a society that's made very

nervous by despair, " he says. " Suicide, parti=ularly among young

people, is increasing. We have to acknowledge that one in five young

people have thought seriously about killing themsel=es, and one in 10

has made an attempt. "

6. Spirituality. It =s as native to us as the air we breathe, Dr.

Gordon says, and we sometimes=forget about it. For him, spirituality

simply means a connection to someth=ng that's greater than us,

something that gives our lives meaning and purp=se. " This chapter

really helps put people back in touch with the possibili=ies of love,

the benefits of prayer and the importance of forgiveness, " he=says.

7. The return. " As you move on this journey through an= beyond

depression, it's not necessarily that where you are changes, but e=en

more importantly, the way you look at and experience where you are

and =hat you do changes, " he says.

my heart feels you.

, " ravenflight393 "

<ravenflight393 wrote:

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> I found it necessary to go off antidepressants. I had been taking

them

> for Obsessive compulsive disorder. Since going off of them about 2

> months ago I have become extremely depressed. I have often been

> depressed because I am disabled and have a very difficult life but

I

> have never experienced anything like this. This goes way beyond

that

> previous unhappiness. I beleive that withdrawal itself produced the

> problem. But since it has been a little more than 2 months now I am

> afraid that the drugs caused permanenet brain damage and that I

will

> never be O.k. again. I feel so empty inside. I force myself to

> function but it doesn't releive the emptiness and I am unable to

get

> interested in anything. I have always loved to read for instance

but I

> can't read anymore,reading seems pointless. I think about killing

> myself everyday and research methods to do so because when I am

> planning suicide is the only time I feel some hope of controlling

my

> own fate and stopping the emptiness and the pain. Circumstances

> prevent me from seeking counseling. Does anyone know anything that

> might help?

>

August 16, 2008

Donna,

I totally know what you mean about not sharing because you don't want

to hurt others. Crystals that are good for healing know all about how

to draw off the pain and release it. Just cleanse them in moonlight,

running water or Mother Earth after you work with them.

My favorite calming stone is Howlite. My favorite protective stone is

black tourmaline-I have a large chunk which communicates emotionally

with me, which is the first time I have gotten to know the personality

of a stone--it makes me smile when it is near me.

Dear one, you were not meant to carry all that pain. You have a

beautiful season of life to enjoy now, and crystals can help you heal

and support you through the process. I would also highly recommend

Reiki for healing and support.

Been there, done that, and survived also--

Cindy

August 18, 2008

Donna x

When you are depressed you cannot view anything in a positive light . So you do

not sound '' nuts '' when you say you do not wish to hurt crystals .

YOU are a '' special unique person'' who needs some help , not '' nut''s .

Maybe because of the '' depression '' you feel unworthy of any help ? ( just a

thought ).

It is the very nature of the illness for the thought process to be negative

when a person has depression ..

I know when i had depression , i had no self esteem/ confidence , and i felt

inferior to other people .I know i felt quite worthless .

I am unsure what a Nd is ? but getting to the very root of your depression and

unearthing it with proffesional help will take you onto the healing path .

I personally feel the blue and green crystals with help you .

One more thing '' If you laugh in the morning , you will sleep blissfully at

night '' .xx

Love and light to you

Silver x

Talking through your thoughts and sharing them with others will also help lift

your burden .

Silver x

--- On Fri, 8/15/08, Donna Magee <hotflash wrote:

Donna Magee <hotflash

Re: [CrystalHW] Re: Depression

Friday, August 15, 2008, 12:32 AM