Arthritis

[Guest guest]

I've found that glucosamine sulfate plus devil's claw works very well. GS without the DC isn't anywhere near as good. Because I can't find just GS and DC anymore, have started taking a mixture of the two with MSM (commercial tablets). Think I"m allergic to them too. But hey....AnnJuliska <juliska wrote:

Hi,Is anyone prepared to send me info on fast acting pain relief for arthritis especially if it can be applied topically ????Naturally any other info is welcome . I basically use folic acid , MSM ,glucosamine , B12, B3 & boron & antioxidants in a full regimen of supplements.Thank you in anticipation,Jules.Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the

advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

 

 

Ann Marie C

 

[Guest guest]

Hello

 

Try Arnica Gel ( Homeopathic remedy) I used it with my patient it's very effective

 

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Juliska

herbal remedies

Wednesday, March 30, 2005 6:21 AM

Herbal Remedies - Arthritis

Hi,Is anyone prepared to send me info on fast acting pain relief for arthritis especially if it can be applied topically ????Naturally any other info is welcome . I basically use folic acid , MSM ,glucosamine , B12, B3 & boron & antioxidants in a full regimen of supplements.Thank you in anticipation,Jules.Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

[Guest guest]

Here are two recipes I think will help.

Let me know if they do. I am looking

myself for a recipe that is as close as

possible to the brand Tiger Balm Extra

Strength, but without the coloring if at

all possible.

 

RECIPE 1:

 

You can use the following recipe to help with the pain of arthritis.

It can be used as often as you need. This makes quite a bit (About a

gallon) but it has been found that it is also useful for bruises,

sprains, even broken bones, it heals cuts and scrapes, takes the

itch and sting out of insect bites, and is even good for chapped

skin, although it should not be used on chapped lips as it has

arnica in it and arnica should never be taken internally.

 

My husband has arthritis in his neck and this relieves the

discomfort and headache that he sometimes gets from that. If used

for a period of a year or more it may even restore limited use of

frozen joints. It can also be used on your animals but don't put the

beeswax in it because it will stick to their fur.

 

I use the cream formula along with an oral formula that helps to

rebuild the cartilage like some of the expensive products on the

market only it costs next to nothing to make and doesn't taste too

bad.

 

This is expensive but it does make almost a half gallon and you

could go in with a friend and cut the cost in half. It costs about

130.00 retail to make. If you have a wholesaler or CO-OP you can get

it from, you will save a LOT! It smells somewhat cooling but not as

strong as Icy Hot.

 

INGREDIENTS:

 

4 oz. chuchuhuasi *

 

 

1 ¼ c. arnica flowers

 

 

3 c. white oak c/s

 

 

1 ½ c. white willow c/s

 

 

2 ¼ c. wild cherry bark c/s

 

 

¾ c. marshmallow root c/s

 

 

½ c. black walnut hulls c/s

 

 

2 1/8 c. devils claw pow.

 

 

¼ c. shave grass c/s

 

 

2 c. milk weed root c/s

 

 

¼ c. sarsaprilla root c/s

 

 

2 c. cats claw c/s

 

 

3 c. yarrow c/s

 

 

1 Tbs. oil of wintergreen

 

 

1 gal. Cold pressed extra virgin olive oil

 

 

2 ½ lbs. bees wax

 

DIRECTIONS:

 

Put all dry ingredients into a 1 gallon bottle and add as much of

the olive oil as you can get into it. Put a piece of Saran Wrap over

the top and put on the lid. Put into a sunny window for 2 weeks,

shaking the bottle to `stir' it several times a day. Add more oil as

needed. The dry ingredients will soak up some of the oil so more

will have to be added.

 

When two weeks are up empty the bottle into a colander lined with a

layer of muslin and set on top of a large glass bowl or enamel.

Allow to drain for 24 hours.

 

Melt the wax and add to the oil. Add the chuchuhuasi and the

wintergreen. Stir with a wooden spoon until mixed and pour into jars.

 

Always be sure to label and date.

 

 

 

RECIPE 2:

 

Collagen BUILDING Drink

 

In a blender or food processor blend:

 

INGREDIENTS:

 

1 med. Pineapple peeled and cored.

 

 

2 Tbs. Papaya seed powdered (Can get this at a health food store)

 

 

2 cups Food grade aloe vera gel.

 

 

16 pkg. Knox unflavored gelatin

 

 

1 12 oz. can Frozen pineapple juice.

 

DIRECTIONS:

 

Blend this all together and allow it to sit for at least 24 hours in

the refridgerator. It will make about a half gallon but needs to be

put into a larger jar as it will shrink as it ages.This freezes well

so it can be divided into smaller portions.

 

Take 4 Tbs. at bedtime. If you have a problem with cholesterol you

may want to check into getting a vegetable based gelatin through

your health food store.

 

I have found this quite helpful in relieving arthritic pains. Be

patient with it. It will be 4 to 6 weeks before you will notice much

difference.

 

Peace & Health,

Jewel

[Guest guest]

Just wanted to share a tad more with you

I thought might help you see what helps

me that you too take, and other things you

may not take already.

 

My hubby has TONS of sports injuries from

College. Plus he is a Master Carpenter and

Handyman, so he really has to take care of

his body even at age 36, or he could be in

retirement by 40. NO KIDDING!

 

Here are things we BOTH TAKE to help with

Bone Loss, Bone, Joint, Muscle, and other

pain. You can get most of these at Wal-Mart

Super Center in smaller quantities that will

last two people [taking them daily] about

one month per bottle. Some cost more, like

the Glucosamine and Chondroitin Sulfate with

MSM complex.

 

You will need to break them up throughout

the day in order to take them all when your

body needs them, and can absorb them the

best.

 

DAILY SUPPLIMENTAL REGIME:

 

Morning Before Work, Excercise or Play:

1) Siberian Ginseng not to exceed 1800 mg daily [as

directed on label] or according to body weight by

your doctor.

2) B-Complex not to exceed Liquid 1 dropperful daily

[as directed on label] or according to body weight by

your doctor.

3) B-12 Liquid not to exceed 1/2 dropperful daily

[as directed on label] or according to body weight by

your doctor.

and.......

Before Every Meal [if you want to cut food intake]:

1) Green Tea not to exceed 315 mg daily [as directed

on label] or according to body weight by your doctor.

 

Before bed [take 4 hours after your last meal of the

night before bed time] This is when the body has

digested your evening meal, and thus the system is

more relaxed to receive neutrients. I was taught

this a few years ago, it has made a big difference

in how much quicker my body absorbs them and I

notice a change for the better. Take WITH MILK

on an EMPTY TUMMY.

 

1) Glucosamine and Chondroitin Sulfate with MSM complex

[as directed on label] or according to body weight by

your doctor.

2) Vitamin E D-alfa 800 I.U. Once Daily [as directed on

label] or according to body weight by your doctor.

3) Cal-Mag-Zinc Blend [as directed on label] or according

to body weight by your doctor.

4) Vitamin C 1000 mg daily [as directed on label] or

according to body weight by your doctor. I have safely

taken as much as 2000 mg daily to releive constipation,

and gotten BETTER results than with any over the counter

stool softener. However you need to ask your doctor if

you can safely take over 1000 mg yourself, since your

health and system is not mine.

5) Potassium [This is AWESOME like Cal-Mag-Zinc for pain

in the bones, joints, and cartiledge] - [as directed on

label] or according to body weight by your doctor.

6) Multi-Vitamin with Herbs - Ask your doctor if you

need any additional vit. min. or herb you need more of

or some of. Then look for a good multiple with what you

need in it. This way you are not taking even more pills

or powders.

 

FOR FALL & WINTER SEASONS FLU & COLD PREVENTION TAKE:

1) Echinacea Liquid 1 dropperful in a cup of mint, and or,

lemon tea with honey. QUIT TAKING SPRING & SUMMER. You

do not want it to build up in your system and your system

get use to it, developing a resistance to it's benefits.

 

FOR LIVER FUNCTION & REPAIR TAKE:

1) Milk Thistle Gel Caps - not to exceed 1,000 mg daily

[as directed on label] or according to body weight by

your doctor.

 

FOR GASTRIC & ACID REFLUX TAKE A COMBINATION OF:

Flaxseed Oil 1000 mg ...and... Ginger Root 550 mg

daily - 15-min. BEFORE each meal. The oil will reduce

stomach acid, by coating the lining of the stomach,

and thus acidic and acid promoting foods will cause

far less of a acidic reaction.

IF YOUR REFLUX CAUSES BURNING AND PAIN IN YOUR THROAT,

MOUTH, AND LARYNX...BE SURE TO SEE A PHYSICIAN SOON,

RELUX DISEASE CAN CAUSE CANCER OF THE THROAT AND THE

CONNECTED AREAS WHERE THE ACID BREAKS DOWN THE TISSUES.

 

SPRINGTIME ALLERGIES? TAKE:

1) SINUS / LUNG Liquid " I prefer Dr. Richard Schulze's

brand " - 1 dropperful in juice or herbal or decafinated

tea once daily [as directed on label] or according to

body weight by your doctor.

 

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

 

In Health ~ Peace & Happiness,

Jewel

[Guest guest]

Hello Jules,

 

I use bee venom therapy, to know more about that do a search on google on bee venom or apitherapy.

The venom does provide great relief. I do up to 37 stings within an hour. I do sometimes less than that and I do it 2 or 3 times a week. I am fortunate to know a beekeeper whose wife has MS and also uses bee venom. So he does not objects in giving me some bees. Pain from the sting is easily controlled by deep breathing, but at the begining your body hitches a little but after 2 weeks no more problems. I also get a lot of energy from that treatment.

 

Good Luck,

Noel

 

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 05:21:13 +0200 Juliska <juliska writes:

 

Hi,Is anyone prepared to send me info on fast acting pain relief for arthritis especially if it can be applied topically ????Naturally any other info is welcome . I basically use folic acid , MSM ,glucosamine , B12, B3 & boron & antioxidants in a full regimen of supplements.Thank you in anticipation,Jules.Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

 

[Guest guest]

CAUTION

 

A word of warning on this treatment.

 

This is one of those treatments where a little caution is advised. Bee Venom is poisonous and it is the body's reaction to handling the poison that brings about healing. This is much the same as Homeopathy and its treatments and philosophy. Minute amounts of Arsenic or Mercury in trace forms bring about healing by getting the body to react to a potential threat. Just threatening the body with these poisons brings about the raising of the body's natural defences. Bee Venom works the same way but in a much stronger dosage (not a homeopathic dosage - but what would be considered an herbal dosage), and should be taken with great caution.

 

There may not be many TRUE allergies, but this is one of them. This is one I'd muscle test first before proceeding any further, and anyone who is already truly allergy sensitive would do well to stay away from this treatment until some serious cleansing had been done first.

 

For Arthritis, there's nothing that beats Panther Piss (in the Files .

 

Much love,

 

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-447-5282Doc

 

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noelg

herbal remedies

Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:02 AM

Re: Herbal Remedies - Arthritis

 

Hello Jules,

 

I use bee venom therapy, to know more about that do a search on google on bee venom or apitherapy.

The venom does provide great relief. I do up to 37 stings within an hour. I do sometimes less than that and I do it 2 or 3 times a week. I am fortunate to know a beekeeper whose wife has MS and also uses bee venom. So he does not objects in giving me some bees. Pain from the sting is easily controlled by deep breathing, but at the begining your body hitches a little but after 2 weeks no more problems. I also get a lot of energy from that treatment.

 

Good Luck,

Noel

 

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 05:21:13 +0200 Juliska <juliska writes:

 

Hi,Is anyone prepared to send me info on fast acting pain relief for arthritis especially if it can be applied topically ????Naturally any other info is welcome . I basically use folic acid , MSM ,glucosamine , B12, B3 & boron & antioxidants in a full regimen of supplements.Thank you in anticipation,Jules.

[Guest guest]

May I ask...what is panther piss?....have read this many times on here and I'm new at this.....thank you...brenda"Dr. Ian Shillington" <DocShillington wrote:

 

CAUTION

 

A word of warning on this treatment.

 

This is one of those treatments where a little caution is advised. Bee Venom is poisonous and it is the body's reaction to handling the poison that brings about healing. This is much the same as Homeopathy and its treatments and philosophy. Minute amounts of Arsenic or Mercury in trace forms bring about healing by getting the body to react to a potential threat. Just threatening the body with these poisons brings about the raising of the body's natural defences. Bee Venom works the same way but in a much stronger dosage (not a homeopathic dosage - but what would be considered an herbal dosage), and should be taken with great caution.

 

There may not be many TRUE allergies, but this is one of them. This is one I'd muscle test first before proceeding any further, and anyone who is already truly allergy sensitive would do well to stay away from this treatment until some serious cleansing had been done first.

 

For Arthritis, there's nothing that beats Panther Piss (in the Files .

 

Much love,

 

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-447-5282Doc

 

-

noelg

herbal remedies

Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:02 AM

Re: Herbal Remedies - Arthritis

 

Hello Jules,

 

I use bee venom therapy, to know more about that do a search on google on bee venom or apitherapy.

The venom does provide great relief. I do up to 37 stings within an hour. I do sometimes less than that and I do it 2 or 3 times a week. I am fortunate to know a beekeeper whose wife has MS and also uses bee venom. So he does not objects in giving me some bees. Pain from the sting is easily controlled by deep breathing, but at the begining your body hitches a little but after 2 weeks no more problems. I also get a lot of energy from that treatment.

 

Good Luck,

Noel

 

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 05:21:13 +0200 Juliska <juliska writes:

 

Hi,Is anyone prepared to send me info on fast acting pain relief for arthritis especially if it can be applied topically ????Naturally any other info is welcome . I basically use folic acid , MSM ,glucosamine , B12, B3 & boron & antioxidants in a full regimen of supplements.Thank you in anticipation,Jules.Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is

up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Always in the service of our Father. Brenda Joyce

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Brenda,

 

you can find all the data on these remedies in the files of the website. Just go to the HR website, and click on the menu button for *files*. You will find a whole wealth of information in there, including recipes :-)

 

love

Lisa

 

 

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Brenda Joyce

herbal remedies

Wednesday, March 30, 2005 6:26 PM

Re: Herbal Remedies - Arthritis

 

May I ask...what is panther piss?....have read this many times on here and I'm new at this.....thank you...brenda

[Guest guest]

Brenda, Panther Piss is in the files section under " Doc's recipes " ,

 

http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/

wHVLQiDFyWKkX9ZmmOxEraomYEpsYWWEH0NBB9V8CWm11K5OcNvRH4Ou6GjEnJRc0BeR

S5rm1KSqoENmpLn1hLxomVZV/Doc%20Ian%20Shillington%20ND/Panther%20Piss

 

Or try: http://tinyurl.com/6hnzn

 

(It consists of organic apple cider vinegar and blackstrap molasses.. : )

 

Scott.

 

 

herbal remedies , Brenda Joyce <brendajoyce8> wrote:

> May I ask...what is panther piss?....have read this many times on here and I'm

new at

this.....thank you...brenda

[Guest guest]

Hi

I agree totally with Doc on this one, I was stung by a bee and went into Anaphylactic shock. If it had not been for my wife's very quick action, I would not be here now.

So BE CAREFUL!!!.

Kind regards to all

Jeff

 

 

 

 

Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.5 - Release 29/03/2005

[Guest guest]

The Panther Piss recipe is in the files, but it is 50/50 Organic

Black Strap Molasses and Organic Apple Cider Vinegar. I take 1 to 1-

1/2 T of it in about 3-4 oz of distilled water in the morning and

again, when I remember, in the evening. Slightly diluted it has a

bright, tart taste to it and not unpleasant. I had trouble taking

BSM full strength, but mixing in the ACV actually makes it much

better.

 

 

 

herbal remedies , Brenda Joyce

<brendajoyce8> wrote:

> May I ask...what is panther piss?....have read this many times on

here and I'm new at this.....thank you...brenda

>

> " Dr. Ian Shillington " <DocShillington@K...> wrote:CAUTION

>

> A word of warning on this treatment.

>

> This is one of those treatments where a little caution is

advised. Bee Venom is poisonous and it is the body's reaction to

handling the poison that brings about healing. This is much the

same as Homeopathy and its treatments and philosophy. Minute

amounts of Arsenic or Mercury in trace forms bring about healing by

getting the body to react to a potential threat. Just threatening

the body with these poisons brings about the raising of the body's

natural defences. Bee Venom works the same way but in a much

stronger dosage (not a homeopathic dosage - but what would be

considered an herbal dosage), and should be taken with great caution.

>

> There may not be many TRUE allergies, but this is one of them.

This is one I'd muscle test first before proceeding any further, and

anyone who is already truly allergy sensitive would do well to stay

away from this treatment until some serious cleansing had been done

first.

>

> For Arthritis, there's nothing that beats Panther Piss (in the

Files .

>

> Much love,

>

> Doc

>

> Ian " Doc " Shillington N.D.

> 727-447-5282

> Doc@A...

> -

> noelg@j...

> herbal remedies

> Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:02 AM

> Re: Herbal Remedies - Arthritis

>

>

> Hello Jules,

>

> I use bee venom therapy, to know more about that do a search on

google on bee venom or apitherapy.

> The venom does provide great relief. I do up to 37 stings within

an hour. I do sometimes less than that and I do it 2 or 3 times a

week. I am fortunate to know a beekeeper whose wife has MS and also

uses bee venom. So he does not objects in giving me some bees. Pain

from the sting is easily controlled by deep breathing, but at the

begining your body hitches a little but after 2 weeks no more

problems. I also get a lot of energy from that treatment.

>

> Good Luck,

> Noel

>

> On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 05:21:13 +0200 Juliska <juliska@w...> writes:

> Hi,

>

> Is anyone prepared to send me info on fast acting pain relief for

arthritis especially if it can be applied topically ????

>

> Naturally any other info is welcome . I basically use folic acid ,

MSM ,glucosamine , B12, B3 & boron & antioxidants in a full regimen

of supplements.

>

> Thank you in anticipation,

> Jules.

>

>

> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any

natural remedy.

> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own

physician and to

> prescribe for your own health.

> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here

as long as

> they behave themselves.

> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and

any person

> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own

risk.

> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or

products from list members, you are agreeing to

> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner

and members free of any liability.

>

> Dr. Ian Shillington

> Doctor of Naturopathy

> Dr.IanShillington@G...

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Hi!

Cayenne and/or ginger works well on arthritis. Find a rub with one or both

of these ingredients in it.

 

Jen

>

>

>

> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural

> remedy.

> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and

> to

> prescribe for your own health.

> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long

> as

> they behave themselves.

> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any

> person

> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.

> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products

> from list members, you are agreeing to

> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and

> members free of any liability.

>

> Dr. Ian Shillington

> Doctor of Naturopathy

> Dr.IanShillington

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks JenOn 5/12/05, jenthetiger <jenthetiger wrote:

 

 

> Hi!

Cayenne and/or ginger works well on arthritis. Find a rub with one or both

of these ingredients in it.

 

Jen

>

>

>

> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural

> remedy.

> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and

> to

> prescribe for your own health.

> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long

> as

> they behave themselves.

> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any

> person

> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.

> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products

> from list members, you are agreeing to

> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and

> members free of any liability.

>

> Dr. Ian Shillington

> Doctor of Naturopathy

> Dr.IanShillington

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/20/2006 6:56:37 PM Eastern Standard Time,

sabb2 writes:

> She's cutting out dairy products, except for cottage cheese (would goats'

cheese be ok I wonder?). Also citrus fruits, strawberries, gooseberries,

rhubarb and pineapple, all red meats, ham, bacon etc, salt, refined sugar and

flour products, alcohol, caffeine, and tomatoes. <

 

I know that good quality fish oil helps tremendously with arthritis. Try to

get fish oil that is distilled. Nordic Naturals is an excellent brand (no, I

don't work for them, just trust their processing and product). Welcome to

Nordic Naturals NordicNaturals.com

 

Fish oil doesn't work instantly, you need to use it on a continuum. I've had

or should I say used to have arthritis in the knees and don't have it anymore

since taking the fish oil for about 3 years now. And fish oil has so many

other wonderful health benefits (omega 3's).

 

Hope this helps...

 

Dawn

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Sarah,

 

There are two types of arthritis - osteoarthritis and rheumatoid

arthritis.

 

Osteoarthritis can develop through everyday wear and tear on the body as

well as a lack of enzymes in the diet. Adding enzymes to the diet will

be beneficial - whether in a supplement or through raw fruits and

vegetables.

 

Rheumatoid arthritis is an autoimmune disorder that is brought about by

toxins in the body or a viral infection. Drugs that are typically

prescribed may seem to help the problem as they may take care of the

pain, but are actually adding to the toxicity of the body.

 

Massage can be very helpful as well as gentle stretching exercises which

will increase circulation and improve blood flow to that particular part

of the body. As well as implementing an alkaline diet. I would like to

add that some fruits and vegetables that are considered acidic - like

tomatoes or pineapple actually turn to alkaline in the body.

Eliminating red meat, pork, processed foods, caffeine and alcohol and

incorporating a diet of whole grains, fresh fruits and vegetables and

pure water is a great start.

 

The epsom salt does help to cleanse the body by drawing toxins out. And

for your mom she should be building up her body rather than cleansing

at this point.

 

For supplements I would recommend EverFlex or a comparable product which

contains MSM, Glucosamine and Chondroitin. It is also beneficial for

your mom to take a calcium supplement, but be sure to choose one that

contains vitamin D, silica, boron and magnesium. These additional

elements are beneficial for utilization and assimiliation of the

calcium. You can take alfalfa to help alkalize the body. Please feel

free to e-mail me if you have more questions.

 

Blessings,

 

Michelle Newport, CH

Nature For Life

" Better Health Through Better Living "

http://www.natureforlife.com

 

 

> -------

> Arthritis

> " Sarah B " <sabb2

> Sat, May 20, 2006 3:56 pm

>

>

> Hi everyone

> This is my first post here, I have really found all the information

> interesting and everyone so caring, it's a great group.

>

> My main interests are in aromatherapy, reiki, yoga and nutrition. I'm

> not a qualified therapist but am always reading about these and other

> subjects and I use much of what I've learnt for myself and my family.

>

> I would appreciate any comments anyone would like to make on the subject

> of arthritis...my Mum has been suffering for many years, mainly in her

> hands, and has decided to make a big effort to tackle the problem. She

> is planning to change her diet, at least to give it a go for 3 months or

> more, and I wonder if anyone has any additional suggestions or comments

> on her approach:

>

> For a start she'll be taking cider vinegar and honey 3 times a day, as

> well as molasses and a multivitamin/mineral supplement.

>

> She's cutting out dairy products, except for cottage cheese (would

> goats' cheese be ok I wonder?). Also citrus fruits, strawberries,

> gooseberries, rhubarb and pineapple, all red meats, ham, bacon etc, salt,

> refined sugar and flour products, alcohol, caffeine, and tomatoes.

>

> These are the main rules. I think she's also planning to take some

> epsom salt baths, although she has tried these before and found the

> subsequent sweating exhausting. (I don't know much about this).

>

> Many thanks for any recommendations or tips.

> Blessings

> Sarah

>

>

>

>

>

 

[Guest guest]

The Blood Type Diet can also be very beneficial for arthritis. Which, depending

on one's blood type, could be a very different diet from the one described here

with different supplements.

 

Linda

-

mnewport

Sunday, May 21, 2006 8:46 AM

RE: Arthritis

 

 

Hi Sarah,

 

There are two types of arthritis - osteoarthritis and rheumatoid

arthritis.

 

Osteoarthritis can develop through everyday wear and tear on the body as

well as a lack of enzymes in the diet. Adding enzymes to the diet will

be beneficial - whether in a supplement or through raw fruits and

vegetables.

 

Rheumatoid arthritis is an autoimmune disorder that is brought about by

toxins in the body or a viral infection. Drugs that are typically

prescribed may seem to help the problem as they may take care of the

pain, but are actually adding to the toxicity of the body.

 

Massage can be very helpful as well as gentle stretching exercises which

will increase circulation and improve blood flow to that particular part

of the body. As well as implementing an alkaline diet. I would like to

add that some fruits and vegetables that are considered acidic - like

tomatoes or pineapple actually turn to alkaline in the body.

Eliminating red meat, pork, processed foods, caffeine and alcohol and

incorporating a diet of whole grains, fresh fruits and vegetables and

pure water is a great start.

 

The epsom salt does help to cleanse the body by drawing toxins out. And

for your mom she should be building up her body rather than cleansing

at this point.

 

For supplements I would recommend EverFlex or a comparable product which

contains MSM, Glucosamine and Chondroitin. It is also beneficial for

your mom to take a calcium supplement, but be sure to choose one that

contains vitamin D, silica, boron and magnesium. These additional

elements are beneficial for utilization and assimiliation of the

calcium. You can take alfalfa to help alkalize the body. Please feel

free to e-mail me if you have more questions.

 

Blessings,

 

Michelle Newport, CH

Nature For Life

" Better Health Through Better Living "

http://www.natureforlife.com

 

 

> -------

> Arthritis

> " Sarah B " <sabb2

> Sat, May 20, 2006 3:56 pm

>

>

> Hi everyone

> This is my first post here, I have really found all the information

> interesting and everyone so caring, it's a great group.

>

> My main interests are in aromatherapy, reiki, yoga and nutrition. I'm

> not a qualified therapist but am always reading about these and other

> subjects and I use much of what I've learnt for myself and my family.

>

> I would appreciate any comments anyone would like to make on the subject

> of arthritis...my Mum has been suffering for many years, mainly in her

> hands, and has decided to make a big effort to tackle the problem. She

> is planning to change her diet, at least to give it a go for 3 months or

> more, and I wonder if anyone has any additional suggestions or comments

> on her approach:

>

> For a start she'll be taking cider vinegar and honey 3 times a day, as

> well as molasses and a multivitamin/mineral supplement.

>

> She's cutting out dairy products, except for cottage cheese (would

> goats' cheese be ok I wonder?). Also citrus fruits, strawberries,

> gooseberries, rhubarb and pineapple, all red meats, ham, bacon etc, salt,

> refined sugar and flour products, alcohol, caffeine, and tomatoes.

>

> These are the main rules. I think she's also planning to take some

> epsom salt baths, although she has tried these before and found the

> subsequent sweating exhausting. (I don't know much about this).

>

> Many thanks for any recommendations or tips.

> Blessings

> Sarah

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Linda,

 

I have also studied the blood type diet and even followed the diet for a

period of time when I first became involved in natural health and have

found that not all the dietary recommendations are consistent for each

blood type. But, it is definitely worth doing the research as I believe

you can always benefit from taking charge of your own health rather than

putting your health in someone else's hands.

 

Blessings,

 

Michelle Newport, CH

Nature For Life

" Better Health Through Better Living "

http://www.natureforlife.com

 

 

 

> -------

> Re: Arthritis

> " Linda Bumpas " <lindabumpas

> Sun, May 21, 2006 8:57 am

>

>

> The Blood Type Diet can also be very beneficial for arthritis. Which,

> depending on one's blood type, could be a very different diet from the

> one described here with different supplements.

>

> Linda

> -

> mnewport

>

> Sunday, May 21, 2006 8:46 AM

> RE: Arthritis

>

>

> Hi Sarah,

>

> There are two types of arthritis - osteoarthritis and rheumatoid

> arthritis.

>

> Osteoarthritis can develop through everyday wear and tear on the body

> as

> well as a lack of enzymes in the diet. Adding enzymes to the diet will

> be beneficial - whether in a supplement or through raw fruits and

> vegetables.

>

> Rheumatoid arthritis is an autoimmune disorder that is brought about

> by

> toxins in the body or a viral infection. Drugs that are typically

> prescribed may seem to help the problem as they may take care of the

> pain, but are actually adding to the toxicity of the body.

>

> Massage can be very helpful as well as gentle stretching exercises

> which

> will increase circulation and improve blood flow to that particular

> part

> of the body. As well as implementing an alkaline diet. I would like to

> add that some fruits and vegetables that are considered acidic - like

> tomatoes or pineapple actually turn to alkaline in the body.

> Eliminating red meat, pork, processed foods, caffeine and alcohol and

> incorporating a diet of whole grains, fresh fruits and vegetables and

> pure water is a great start.

>

> The epsom salt does help to cleanse the body by drawing toxins out.

> And

> for your mom she should be building up her body rather than cleansing

> at this point.

>

> For supplements I would recommend EverFlex or a comparable product

> which

> contains MSM, Glucosamine and Chondroitin. It is also beneficial for

> your mom to take a calcium supplement, but be sure to choose one that

> contains vitamin D, silica, boron and magnesium. These additional

> elements are beneficial for utilization and assimiliation of the

> calcium. You can take alfalfa to help alkalize the body. Please feel

> free to e-mail me if you have more questions.

>

> Blessings,

>

> Michelle Newport, CH

> Nature For Life

> " Better Health Through Better Living "

> http://www.natureforlife.com

>

>

> > -------

> > Arthritis

> > " Sarah B " <sabb2

> > Sat, May 20, 2006 3:56 pm

> >

> >

> > Hi everyone

> > This is my first post here, I have really found all the information

> > interesting and everyone so caring, it's a great group.

> >

> > My main interests are in aromatherapy, reiki, yoga and nutrition.

> I'm

> > not a qualified therapist but am always reading about these and

> other

> > subjects and I use much of what I've learnt for myself and my

> family.

> >

> > I would appreciate any comments anyone would like to make on the

> subject

> > of arthritis...my Mum has been suffering for many years, mainly in

> her

> > hands, and has decided to make a big effort to tackle the problem.

> She

> > is planning to change her diet, at least to give it a go for 3

> months or

> > more, and I wonder if anyone has any additional suggestions or

> comments

> > on her approach:

> >

> > For a start she'll be taking cider vinegar and honey 3 times a day,

> as

> > well as molasses and a multivitamin/mineral supplement.

> >

> > She's cutting out dairy products, except for cottage cheese (would

> > goats' cheese be ok I wonder?). Also citrus fruits, strawberries,

> > gooseberries, rhubarb and pineapple, all red meats, ham, bacon etc,

> salt,

> > refined sugar and flour products, alcohol, caffeine, and tomatoes.

> >

> > These are the main rules. I think she's also planning to take some

> > epsom salt baths, although she has tried these before and found the

> > subsequent sweating exhausting. (I don't know much about this).

> >

> > Many thanks for any recommendations or tips.

> > Blessings

> > Sarah

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

hello, I am 34 and was diagnosed with Rheumatoid arthritis at the age of 21.

Sounds like your mom is on a good start. I found following what this last

poster has listed is very beneficial. Also exercise and rest. 5 years ago I

had started training in Tai Chi, Chi Gong and nae gong style of martial arts and

know I am into yoga. I am off of medications and so far everything is going

great. I also occasionally soak in a herbal chinese bath which helps sore

joints and pull out the toxins in the body. www.oomyungdoe.com sells this

product in there online store.

 

I found by combining proper eating, exercise, rest and positive thinking have

put me back on track to a much more balance and comfortable life.

 

take care

Jennnifer

 

mnewport wrote:

Hi Sarah,

 

There are two types of arthritis - osteoarthritis and rheumatoid

arthritis.

 

Osteoarthritis can develop through everyday wear and tear on the body as

well as a lack of enzymes in the diet. Adding enzymes to the diet will

be beneficial - whether in a supplement or through raw fruits and

vegetables.

 

Rheumatoid arthritis is an autoimmune disorder that is brought about by

toxins in the body or a viral infection. Drugs that are typically

prescribed may seem to help the problem as they may take care of the

pain, but are actually adding to the toxicity of the body.

 

Massage can be very helpful as well as gentle stretching exercises which

will increase circulation and improve blood flow to that particular part

of the body. As well as implementing an alkaline diet. I would like to

add that some fruits and vegetables that are considered acidic - like

tomatoes or pineapple actually turn to alkaline in the body.

Eliminating red meat, pork, processed foods, caffeine and alcohol and

incorporating a diet of whole grains, fresh fruits and vegetables and

pure water is a great start.

 

The epsom salt does help to cleanse the body by drawing toxins out. And

for your mom she should be building up her body rather than cleansing

at this point.

 

For supplements I would recommend EverFlex or a comparable product which

contains MSM, Glucosamine and Chondroitin. It is also beneficial for

your mom to take a calcium supplement, but be sure to choose one that

contains vitamin D, silica, boron and magnesium. These additional

elements are beneficial for utilization and assimiliation of the

calcium. You can take alfalfa to help alkalize the body. Please feel

free to e-mail me if you have more questions.

 

Blessings,

 

Michelle Newport, CH

Nature For Life

" Better Health Through Better Living "

http://www.natureforlife.com

 

 

> -------

> Arthritis

> " Sarah B " <sabb2

> Sat, May 20, 2006 3:56 pm

>

>

> Hi everyone

> This is my first post here, I have really found all the information

> interesting and everyone so caring, it's a great group.

>

> My main interests are in aromatherapy, reiki, yoga and nutrition. I'm

> not a qualified therapist but am always reading about these and other

> subjects and I use much of what I've learnt for myself and my family.

>

> I would appreciate any comments anyone would like to make on the subject

> of arthritis...my Mum has been suffering for many years, mainly in her

> hands, and has decided to make a big effort to tackle the problem. She

> is planning to change her diet, at least to give it a go for 3 months or

> more, and I wonder if anyone has any additional suggestions or comments

> on her approach:

>

> For a start she'll be taking cider vinegar and honey 3 times a day, as

> well as molasses and a multivitamin/mineral supplement.

>

> She's cutting out dairy products, except for cottage cheese (would

> goats' cheese be ok I wonder?). Also citrus fruits, strawberries,

> gooseberries, rhubarb and pineapple, all red meats, ham, bacon etc, salt,

> refined sugar and flour products, alcohol, caffeine, and tomatoes.

>

> These are the main rules. I think she's also planning to take some

> epsom salt baths, although she has tried these before and found the

> subsequent sweating exhausting. (I don't know much about this).

>

> Many thanks for any recommendations or tips.

> Blessings

> Sarah

>

>

>

>

>

 

[Guest guest]

yes i and some firneds have had good luck w a chinese topical solution

called..get this...zheng gu shui.......it is dirt cheap and i had a friend

who is a hedge fund mgr..so he is real well heeled and his wife has

artritic knees and she tried it and she swears by it...she told me tht it

was the first time her knees didnt hurt in like 15 years.....wht else can i

say..

olm

 

 

-

" Louise " <magoo5396

<herbal remedies >

Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:28 PM

Herbal Remedies - Arthritis

 

 

> Hi I have ostoarthristis in both my knees and the right one is worse

> than the left any one know of any remedy that I might try. Thanks

> Louise

>

>

>

Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural

> remedy.

> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and

> to

> prescribe for your own health.

> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long

> as

> they behave themselves.

> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any

> person

> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.

> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from

> list members, you are agreeing to

> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and

> members free of any liability.

>

> Dr. Ian Shillington

> Doctor of Naturopathy

> Dr.IanShillington

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

There are many ways to approach osteoarthritis and what works for one may not work for another.

For yrs the I believe that Glucosamine-Chondroitin and MSM have been used.

I read recently about Selenium being very good and Devils Claw is good for joints.

Other things used are Yucca, Boswellia and Bromelain.

I think you have to come up with the combo that works for you

Patt

"You can lead a man to knowledge,but you can't make him think "

[Guest guest]

---hi sarah

my file on the sibject

 

Arthritis and joint care

 

There are about 150 different types of arthritis recognised by

rheumatologists for the term is used to cover a wide range of

illnesses covering the muscular skeletal system. Basically however

arthritis refers to inflammation of the joints the most common being

osteoarthritis.

Less common but far more disabling is rheumatoid arthritis, which is

usually a more chronic disease. Usual methods of treatment involve

aspirin which acts to suppress inflammation Cortisone that seems to

be effective but extended use has shown side effects to the adrenal

glands, which impairs the body to withstand stress. There is also a

tendency for the symptoms to intensify when the cortisone is

withdrawn.

From the Edgar cayce perspective

As a preventative measure Cayce said that one should have a peanut

oil rub or massage once a week over the entire body, the peanut oil

being used liberally, he said no one need fear arthritis.

Causes

Cayce describes the causes, which were limited to seven categories:

poor assimilation, poor elimination, impaired circulation, glandular

malfunction, karmic and psychological causes previous treatments,

spinal sublaxations and injuries.

According to cayce there was a pattern with improper eliminations in

some people, which began with the production of excess stomach acid,

a condition that sometimes came from suppressed anger and other

stress related conditions. The excess acid tended to decrease the

lymphatic system.

 

Poor assimilation was also a factor, with some foods actually

becoming poisonous due to their inability to be utilised properly.

Constipation resulted.As a contributing factor circulation was

mentioned in 40% of cases. In 8% of cases glandular misfunction was

sited as the first cause and in 29% of the readings as a

contributing factor.

 

Karma was also mentioned as a cause as was the bearing of

resentments, this was considered to be a major factor in the

development of the disease.

 

Previous treatments were also mentioned with one man being told that

certain immunisation injections had disturbed his circulation

resulting in an arthritic condition.Spinal misalignments and

injuries were also noted as a first cause, most of the readings

mentioned the coccyx or the lower portion of the spine as the source

of the problems.Other contributing causes were diet,exercise,and

mental attitude.

Treatment

1. Foods to avoided were white flour and its products, white bread,

pasta etc. fried foods, carbonated drinks, beer and hard liquor, [an

occasional glass of red wine was OK] and white potatoes but the

skins were OK.

 

2. Combinations of foods to be avoided were starches and sugar,

coffee and tea with milk or cream and citrus fruits with cereals or

dairy products.

A typical diet placed emphasis on vegetables and fruits whole grains

and light proteins.highly advised was a decrease in meats and

starches with meat being completely excluded from the diet for a

period of time .In severe cases a semi liquid diet was advised to

avoid strain on the system.

 

3. Massage,was indicated in 63% of the readings and this was to be

given usually after another treatment such as as Epsom salt baths or

after a steam bath or the use of the wet cell device. Specific oils

were advised to be used with the massage, which were equal parts of

olive oil with peanut oil and tincture of myrrh. Prepared by heating

a small amount of olive oil and then adding the myrrh. It was

mentioned to use the oils freely and as much as the body could

absorb. Other oils were lanolin, mineral oil, olio pine needles,

sassafras oil, witch hazel, oil of wintergreen, cedarwood oil,

mustard oil, kerosene and tincture of benzoin.

Cayce said to heat the oil before use to aid absorbtion. Massage

were to be given in a firm but gentle rotary motion not pinching the

muscles but drawing the circulation by moving the hands smoothly

over the skin. Special attention was to given to the neck and spine

and to parts of the body where there was discomfort. The direction

given for the massage was from the trunk to the extremities of the

body. Frequency of massage varied but the most common was once

weekly, once monthly and three times weekly.

 

4. Atomidine an edgar cayce product which can be got from the usa or

in england was also recommended in 42% of cases but due to its high

iodine content this was recommended in specific dosages and

treatment cycles. Excessive iodine in the system could overstimulate

the thyroid and result in harmful effects in the body. Never take

atomidine when you are using thyroid medicine or other drugs as the

drugs could react with each other and have undesirable effects.

The most common dosage was one drop taken daily for five days

followed by a five-day rest period then one-drop daily then rest for

five days. Then resume the cycle.Daily dosages ranged from one to

eight drops daily. It was recommended that atomidine was taken in

half glass of water in the morning before eating. Frequently

atomidine was coordinated with Epsom salt baths and massage with the

baths being taken during the rest period and immediately following

the atomidine sequence.

 

5. Improving the elimination process within the body,used in about

37% of cases the most frequent methods were castor oil packs,

enemas, colonics, and eno salts. Body temperature water was to be

used for the colonic which was to be followed by a rinse with an

antiseptic such as Glyco thymoline one-tablespoon to a quart of

water. Warm castor oil packs can be also applied over the abdominal

area together with internal doses of olive oil. The packs were made

by heating the oil and soaking the oil in woolen flannel- not

boiling the oil but as hot as you could stand. The pack was then

placed over say the stomach area or liver usualy with a plastic bag

over the top to prevent soiling the lot can be strapped into place

and then heated or kept warm.

Castor oil is also used on any arthritic, rheumatic, or muscular and

joint pain as unction. Basically an infra red lamp is placed 12-18

inches from the part to be massaged. Apply the castor oil on the

painful area and let the lamp warm it and this will help the oil to

penetrate the skin, this done for about 5-10 mins. Then keep rubbing

with the fingers and hand until the oil is worked in. Keep putting

more oil on and massaging continued for 10-60 mins. Massage was also

very helpful, to be given usually after another treatment such as an

Epsom salt bath.

 

If the reaction to colonics and enemas was to severe, emphasis was

placed on gentler methods such as Epsom salt baths, steam baths and

a diet rich in laxative foods.

Epsom salt baths were in a range of five pounds of Epsom salts to

about 20 galls of water for a modern tub and 8-10 pounds for an old

tub. Be in the tub for about 10-12 mins to start with and then work

up to 20 mins. Further stimulation to the body could be given with

using massage or rubbing the extremities of the body while in the

bath. Temp of bath was to be as hot as possible up to the point of

pain.

Epsom salt packs can be also applied when needed over areas of

extreme pain. The salts apparently act by drawing out toxins. you

can also immerse any local part of the body in a smaller basin too

with people who have arthritic hands or other parts of the body.

also you can form a pack ,by dissolving say 1 pound of salts in a

small basin or pot and as much water necessary to saturate a towel.

apply as hot as possible over the area indicated and keep repeating

the applications for 2-3 hrs .where possible use an infra red lamp

or other means to keep the pack hot. Where there is crippling of

the joints of the hands, pain of arthritis or inflammation of the

tendons considerable relief can be found by using an Epsom salt bath

and massage. Use a large quantity of the salts about 1 pound in the

water though, not just a spoon full. Soak the affected area for

about 5 mins and then massage the affected area under water, rotate

the joints and soak again for another 5-10 mins.

 

6. Spinal manipulation such as osteopathy although chiropractic and

neropathy were also recommended. Cayce claimed there was no better

mechanical therapy as good as spinal manipulation .One could start

at the base of the spine and sometimes at the top- cayce gave both

methods, and you could also work from the outer portions of the body

inwards.

 

7. Mental attitude was essential to healing; it had to be conducive

to the healing. Positive thinking opened the body to the source of

all healing- that which is spiritual and unitive in nature. Cayce

said that only the self stood in the way of healing.

 

8. Persistence and consistency of the treatments was highly

desirable.

 

9. Fume baths using a cabinet steam bath were also recommended. In

19% of readings, the baths were to relax the body and stimulate the

perspiratory system so it could throw off toxins and waste through

the skin. Various substances were to be added to the baths such as

witch hazel, which was most frequent. Atomidine, pine oil, Epsom

salts and a mixture of witch hazel and iodine, pine and wintergreen

oil, or pine oil and tincture of benzoin. To avoid strain an ice bag

or cold cloth could be placed on the head. In almost all cases

massage was recommended after the sweat.

 

10. Electrotherapy was also mentioned, using the edgar cayce device

known as the wet cell in the most severe cases. The impedance

device was also used for 20 min in cycles of four at a time;

meditation and devotional thoughts were advised during the

treatment. The violet ray was used in conjunction with other

treatments such as internal doses of chloride of gold and bromide of

soda. These were to be taken just before the violet ray treatment

and the ultraviolet light applied over the spine and lower limbs

treatment time varied from 1.5 ¡V 30 min and daily ¡V once every 2

weeks.

 

11. Internal doses of gold and soda ¡V minute amounts of chloride of

gold and bicarb of soda in half a glass of water.

 

 

Although not specifically recommended by cayce spiritual healing has

the capacity to be very beneficial in all illnesses- see other pages

on this fascinating subject.

 

From the Reilly health book which is essential reading to all those

who are interested in getting and keeping well are the directions

for the Epsom salt bath.

Relief has been obtained to joints, pain of arthritis, of

inflammation of the tendons by using Epsom salts and massage. A

seamstress was sent to Reilly, using a Epsom salt hand bath and

massage for two weeks she was able to close her hand something she

had not been able to do two weeks before. The same treatment was

applied with many musicians. Make a hot Epsom salt solution by

adding one pound of salts to a basin or bowl. Soak the hand for

about 5 mins and then massage the hand with the other hand under

water, really work the fingers rotating the joints then soak again

for another 5-10 mins. After about 20 mins of soaking take the hands

out and massage with peanut oil all the way up the arms, the same

procedure can be used with the feet.

Epsom salt baths were also advised with amounts varying between 5-20

lbs of salts to the bath tub starting at 101degress and working up

to 106-108, staying in the tub for 10-12 mins to start and then

gradually increase to 20 mins. An ice bag over certain areas with

help you bear the heat. This he found particularly good therapy for

stiff joints muscular pain arthritis and rheumatism for increasing

the metabolism and the work of the heart and relieving pain. Caution

was needed with cardiovascular and high blood pressure cases.

 

11.One of the most important principles outlined by cayce and others

where people are suffering from any condition is to do everything

they can to help others in whatever capacity they can. Cayce

frequently mentioned that this would bring faster results. This is a

great ingredient in helping all people to transmute their own karma.

See other pages on this particularly important treatment.

 

12 Using Egyptian oil,- an edgar cayce product

One lady reported pains and growths are gone and arthritis did not

come to her this year. Another reports that her knees were so

swollen but after using the oil swelling went down, she uses the oil

2-3 times a week. This other lady reports that soaking in Epsom

salts then applying the oil gave her the best results. Pain seems to

ease immediately and use of the effected parts returns far more

rapidly than ever before.

The oil had also relieved paralysis, which some poor man had on his

left side.

Another lady in her 80s reports says the oil is the only thing,

which keeps her arthritic knees. There is a lot more to the research

covering arthritis including aspects of diet,glands,etc

 

 

 

Rheumatoid Arthritis

This is a chronic inflammatory condition; it may apparently begin at

any time, the usual onset is between 20-40. The symptoms are joint

swelling stiffness, warmth tenderness and pain; this can be very

debilitating.

Cayce gave 19 readings for eleven people with this condition with an

age range of 22-72 yrs old.

Causes

1. Glandular incordination mentioned in 7 cases and was a major

factor .It was the lack of proper hormonal secretions which

contributed to problems with the circulation, the blood and calcium

levels and the proper absorption of minerals from food.

 

2. Improper eliminations which would lead to a build up of toxins

within the body was sited in 6 cases

3. In four cases spinal misalignment especially in the lower spine

which could interfere with the proper nerve impulses action.

 

4. Poor assimilations were mentioned as a contributing factor in

three cases.

 

 

Treatment

1.Ten people received dietary advice with the emphasis on alkaline

reacting foods ¡V raw vegetables such as carrots, cabbage,

watercress, celery and lettuce. Served in any combination for one

meal a day. Leafy veg was recommended over the pod variety. Strongly

advised were food sources, which contained specific minerals such as

magnesium, silicon, sulphur and iodine. Avoid of red meats, fried

foods, and starches.

 

2.Nine people were recommended massage with a combination of olive

oil and peanut oil with the limbs joints and extremities receiving

special attention.

 

3. Electrotherapy was mentioned in 7 cases where there was evidence

of nerve deterioration, the wet cell was to be used to combat

this.the violet ray and the radial appliance were also mentioned.

 

4, Hydrotherapy was mentioned in 5 cases and took the form of Epsom

salt baths this was to relax the body and relieve pain.

Four people were given instructions for internal doses of atomidine

to improve glandular coordination.

 

5.Gold chloride was mentioned in 4 cases once by itself and with

bromide or bicarbonate of soda. This was to help the nervous system.

 

6.To relieve pain in the joints cayce advised packs of Epsom salts

and in two cases castor oil pack and one of glycothymoline.

 

 

7.Sedatives were mentioned in three cases in the form of aspirin,

cobra venom [to be administered by a doctor versed in this field]

and a capsule consisting of eucalyptus, rectified oil of turpentine

and benzosal.

 

8.Kaldak tonic and stimulants for eliminations were also mentioned.

 

 

9.Adjustments to the entire spinal column were suggested in four

cases.

 

Although not specifically recommended by cayce spiritual/reiki

healing has the capacity to be very beneficial in all illnesses- see

other pages on this fascinating subject.

 

 

12 Spiritual healing, Reiki, find a good healer - but someone you

feel an attunement with at a soul level otherwise you can have

negative results making your situation worse. We are know witnessing

one of the great turnings in our century where old healing practices

are re-emerging such as Reiki healing, Colour healing, Seichim,

Spiritual healing, Osteopathy, Massage and many others.

 

Some of these are thousands of years old, Spiritual healing is one

of those. It is exactly the same kind of energy used by Jesus in so

many of his healings.

 

Put simply Spiritual Healing, Reiki is the transference of certain

energies through a channel which could be a person or an animal or

even the planet, the wavelengths of this healing energy are well

outside the limits of most scientific equipment but a lot of people

can feel this energy .

 

The energy in my experience has been very uplifting and beautiful

which can touch and vastly influence parts of us such as the spirit

or soul or our mental selves and our physical selves. It can bring a

steadiness and balance and sense of well-being second to none .Its

limits as to its use are in the realms of the infinite.

 

A very simplistic analogy would be to liken it to a massive energy

reservoir which can be tapped into by people and animals which act

as the conduits of this energy and like wires of electricity some of

which are bigger than others and so therefore big wires can transmit

more energy than smaller wires.

 

Bearing this point in mind the reader can soon appreciate that going

to one healer can be vastly different than going to another as it is

with so many things whether it be dentists, doctors, policeman or

what have you.

 

Spiritual Healing is natural healing energy, which is present in

this universe. Spiritual healers work in many different ways to some

it is the laying on of hands onto a person or animal, to others it

can be sent through the power of thought. To be even in the presence

of some healers can have a profound and beneficial effect on people

and one wishes that there were more people giving off just as

beautiful vibrations as these people were this world would truly

transform it

 

One of the most important principles outlined by cayce and others

where people are suffering from any condition is to do everything

they can to help others in whatever capacity they can. Cayce

frequently mentioned that this would bring faster results. This is a

great ingredient in helping all people to transmute their own karma.

See other pages on this particularly important treatment.

 

 

 

Some feedback

 

My healing was major. I have been free of flare-ups for three years

at this writing. Because of this level of healing, I know I would

not change a thing about what I did! By adhering to Cayce's

instructions as closely as possible, I hit on an effective

combination of Atomidine, Epsom Salts, and Massage Oils. Though not

easy, I consider the problems I encountered to be very minor

compared with the benefits

 

Castor Oil Packs & Ice as Needed Daily use of Castor Oil Packs has

been shown to dissolve arthritic spurs, but I used them to treat

local inflammation. Before consulting with Dr. McGarey, I kept

serious inflammation flare-ups under control the same way I had been

doing for ten years, with Castor Oil Packs. I also applied ice,

sometimes alternating the two with severe flare-ups. Ice alone is

sufficient for minor flare-ups. Only once did Cayce recommend Castor

Oil Packs for treating arthritis, but they had been extremely

helpful, so I continued with them. The worst flare-up I experienced

as part of my recovery involved my right hip, much of my pelvic area

and my lower back. The pain was excruciating with even the slightest

movement, so I only got out of bed to crawl to the bathroom. I was

unable to walk for four days. My doctor would very likely have

treated me with cortisone shots if I had called him.

 

Cayce says clearly that anti-inflammatory medications are not

helpful, and in fact make things worse. I felt cortisone shots would

prevent the flare-up from carrying out its corrective purpose. I was

right. Day and night for a week, I alternated castor oil packs with

ice, noting gradual improvement. The hip not only completely healed,

it ceased to trouble me thereafter.

 

The Edgar Cayce arthritis healing methods for me were a resounding

success. After only 6 weeks, I noticed a greatly reduced need for

toxic anti-inflammatory drugs, and soon eliminated them altogether.

Within a few weeks of my conversation with Dr. McGarey, all major

symptoms suddenly subsided. The general pain in my body and joints

was virtually gone, as were the flare-ups and swelling. I felt deep

release from pain and the aggressiveness of the illness, as if the

arthritis had been stopped and could not return unless I went back

to old habits.

Edgar Cayce's remedies gave my body a life and vigor it had not

known in more than a decade! I was continuing to heal when I

foolishly allowed parts of the program to lapse. Had I followed the

Cayce instruction of applying the full program persistently and

consistently for a period of time well beyond the cessation of

symptoms, I would today be in remission or completely cured.

Nevertheless, three years later I remain in a much improved state of

health, and completely free of the acute inflammation flare-ups by

which I was literally crippled prior to the program. I fully credit

Edgar Cayce's miraculous therapies for this dramatic and sustained

improvement. Until I applied them seriously, I deteriorated. After I

applied them, I improved rapidly. Edgar Cayce's genius gave me back

my life.

 

Fuller details can be found in Reba Ann karps book encyclopedia of

healing ISBN 0446 30981-8 which gives lots of treatments on all

manor of diseases.

 

And the Edgar cayce handbook for health by Harold reilly and Ruth

hagy brod Harold had 43 yrs working with the readings Isdn0-02601960-

4 Obtained from the cayce center ARE or the heritage store, Virginia

beach

 

Books and remedies can be obtained from

 

Home Health Products to Request a Catalogue or place a Credit Card

Order: 1-800-284-9123

 

The Heritage Store 314 Laskin Road Virginia Beach, VA 23451 To

Request a Catalogue or

place a Credit Card Order: 1-800-862-2923

 

For more information about the A.R.E., visit

http://www.edgarcayce.org

If you are a member of the A.R.E., you can purchase or borrow a set

of Cayce's readings by calling 1-800-333-4499 USA

Or the Edgar Cayce centre up in Durham 13 prospect terrace, new

stanley, CO Durham, England DH9 7TR 01207 237696 ask for one of the

circulating files on arthritis

 

Research from the meridian institute

Meridian Institute, 1853 Old Donation Parkway, Suite 1

Virginia Beach, VA 23454

(757) 496-6009

Ran by a team of doctors the meridian institute carried out a brief

study on a few of the cayce treatments including Arthritis, a brief

summary is here for fuller details please contact them or their

website meridianinstitute.com/

 

Seven individuals participated in a 10-day live-in

instructional/treatment program in November 1998, in which they were

taught the elements of the Edgar Cayce therapies for arthritis. One

person had rheumatoid arthritis, and six had osteoarthritis.

Rheumatoid arthritis is characterized by inflammatory changes in the

synovial membranes of the joints and the areas around the joints and

by atrophy and rarification of the bones. In osteoarthritis there is

generally no inflammation and no spreading or migratory type of

joint involvement. Rather than a loss of calcium, there is a calcium

build-up. The project explicitly did not require participants to

change their current therapies or medications. The principal

therapies included dietary changes, massage, Atomidine (an iodine

supplement), and Epsom salts baths. The participants then returned

home to continue these therapies for six months, submitting daily

logs of compliance with the protocol.

Arthritis symptoms were evaluated at the beginning of the program

and after six months. Four of the seven people returned for the six-

month follow-up in May 1999. One was unable to attend the April

session, and returned in November. Another responded to a

questionnaire by mail, and one person dropped out of the study.

Of the six participants who submitted information, three had

excellent compliance with the protocol. One felt ¡§much improved,¡¨

and two felt ¡§improved.¡¨

 

Other interesting feedback

According to Reba Ann karps book DR Charles Lucas chief of

endocrinology and metabolism at Harper grace hospitals Detroit has

reported that a diet low in animal fats will ease rheumatoid

arthritis pain.with some of his patients reporting that that pain

and stiffness nearly disappeared and swelling in joints reduced

remarkably.

Further substantiating cayce is a study done by the Department of

medicine at Wayne State University Detroit Michigan in that fat free

diets have been found to produce complete remissions in six patients

with rheumatoid arthritis.

Bee venom was mentioned by cayce and in the UK experiments have

isolated an anti-inflammatory agent within the venom. In the US it

has also been found that injecting bee venom into the painful joints

activates natural cortisone production in the bones thus relieving

the pain of arthritis.

 

Treatment of Arthritis with Rife machine

 

About Royal Raymond Rife

Royal Raymond Rife was an inventor and genius who won scientist of

the year awards twice. He started looking for a cancer cure in 1920.

By 1934 he cured 16 out of 16 (100% success) cancer patients in his

clinic, every one within 3 months. What he invented first was a

microscope that used prisms and various light types other than white

and was so powerful he could watch viruses alive and experiment on

them without destroying them in the process.

 

 

In Australia, a serious placebo (sometimes called double blind)

study was made to demonstrate the effectiveness of using audio

frequency therapy in the treatment of arthritis using a prototype of

the PET Rife-Crane unit. Behind this study is, amongst others, Geoff

Baker (B.App. Sci) who spent years of his life and millions of

dollars studying and perfecting his PET device. In order to achieve

medical approval for the sale of the PET unit in Australia, this

Placebo study was made under scientifically controlled

circumstances.

 

The Study results suggest that

„h Audio Frequency Therapy is highly effective in the treatment of

Osteo and Rheumatoid Arthritis. After 36 three-hour treatment

sessions of Audio Frequency Therapy, the net mean overall

improvement in the arthritic condition of treated volunteers

(irrespective of type of arthritis suffered) was approximately 25

percent

„h Continued reduction of pain levels under the extended treatment

sessions administered to Group C (72 three hour treatment sessions,

fig 4) suggest that the benefits of Audio Frequency Therapy are

cumulative and in proportion to the number of treatment sessions a

patient undergoes.

„h Extrapolation of the mean improvement rate of all treated

volunteers in considering the " worst case " situation suggests that

it may be possible to completely eliminate many Arthritis signs and

symptoms in any sufferer of Osteo or Rheumatoid Arthritis in less

than twelve months with an AFTU treatment program of three, three

hour sessions per week.

„h Frequency Therapy may relieve all arthritis symptoms permanently.

This may be possible if the underlying causative factors are also

dealt with and the patient is given time to heal. A cleansing

dietary regimen would be considered essential in all cases.

„h Audio Frequency Therapy may relieve pain, swelling and

inflammation in all arthritis affected areas, but will leave pain in

joints which have suffered major degeneration

I.e. moderate to complete breakdown of articular cartilage leaving

exposed bone.

„h No significant adverse side effects may be expected within the

short term i.e. less than 12 months (based on clinical experience)

if the above treatment protocol is adhered to and the Audio

Frequency Therapy Unit operation manual closely followed.

 

 

 

The study was initiated by a private company, BWBGELTECH PTY LTD

seeking assistance from an arthritis support organisation,

interested doctors, and a commercial laboratory.

 

Placebo study conditions were strictly adhered to, with no volunteer

being aware of whether he or she was receiving treatment. Three

treatments per week of three hours duration were administered using

thirty-four Audio Frequency Therapy Units. These pocket sized

computerised devices allowed carefully selected menus of frequency

programs to be applied to each chosen volunteer.

 

All participants were regularly monitored by self-evaluation of pain

on visual analogue scales, which complied with a standard hospital

protocol for monitoring pain in arthritis patients. Also pre and

post study HLB testing was provided by Australian Biologics Testing

Services (Sydney) for seven randomly selected volunteers from the

treated and placebo groups. Similarly, independent post-study

appraisal of each volunteer's condition by their referring General

Practitioner was requested.

 

On completion of the study, the mean value of percentage reduction

in overall pain (of the treated group was 34 percent compared with

13 percent reduction in the untreated group (The mean 13 percent

reduction of pain in the untreated volunteers was generally

attributable to the emotional benefits received by being involved in

the study. This improvement was not evidenced in the blood test

results.

Long term side effects are unknown but may be similar in nature to

TENS therapy. Continuous treatment with Audio Frequency Therapy

Units over twelve months is not recommended.

 

 

After this study was complete, Geoff Baker formed Electromed to

build and market a commercial version of the Audio Frequency Therapy

unit described here. The commercial version is called PET and it is

described on the electromed web site

 

There is a wealth of testimonies on the rife forum website which

testify to the effectiveness of this treatment http://www.rife.de/

 

phill

In , " Sarah B " <sabb2 wrote:

>

> Hi everyone

> This is my first post here, I have really found all the

information interesting and everyone so caring, it's a great group.

>

> My main interests are in aromatherapy, reiki, yoga and nutrition.

I'm not a qualified therapist but am always reading about these and

other subjects and I use much of what I've learnt for myself and my

family.

>

> I would appreciate any comments anyone would like to make on the

subject of arthritis...my Mum has been suffering for many years,

mainly in her hands, and has decided to make a big effort to tackle

the problem. She is planning to change her diet, at least to give

it a go for 3 months or more, and I wonder if anyone has any

additional suggestions or comments on her approach:

>

> For a start she'll be taking cider vinegar and honey 3 times a

day, as well as molasses and a multivitamin/mineral supplement.

>

> She's cutting out dairy products, except for cottage cheese (would

goats' cheese be ok I wonder?). Also citrus fruits, strawberries,

gooseberries, rhubarb and pineapple, all red meats, ham, bacon etc,

salt, refined sugar and flour products, alcohol, caffeine, and

tomatoes.

>

> These are the main rules. I think she's also planning to take

some epsom salt baths, although she has tried these before and found

the subsequent sweating exhausting. (I don't know much about this).

>

> Many thanks for any recommendations or tips.

> Blessings

> Sarah

>

>

>

>

>

 

[Guest guest]

I use Bromelain Tablets for my ankles.You need to take from 500 to 1000 mg. on an empty stomach.It seems to work slightly the first time and the longer you take it the more the better it works.I got the arthritis from a bad sprain with all the ligemants torn in my ankle.It took 4 months before I could put weight on that ankle.The joints are still in bad shape and I found the longer I take the Bromelain Tablets the less pain I have.I am now able to take only 500 mg first thing in the morning before I eat.It only works if you take it on an empty stomach.Pinapple or juice won't work.Guess it has to do with the sugar.

 

 

"Louise" <magoo5396herbal remedies To: herbal remedies Subject: Herbal Remedies - ArthritisThu, 25 May 2006 22:28:41 -0000Hi I have ostoarthristis in both my knees and the right one is worse than the left any one know of any remedy that I might try. Thanks LouiseFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

 

[Guest guest]

I usually don't post and do a lot of reading and filling info since I have joined the goup, but this is so intereting since I have arthritis since I have been in my early 30's and now almost 60. I have done many things including working out/ watching my weight and food that I eat, and taking herbs including Glucosamine-Chondroitin and MSM for several years now. My questions is: who does have a proven combonation that has helped them in them and how much do you take daily of the herbs, and in what form do you take. Any help will sure help me a lot since this is something I have been dealing with over the past years and would love to find something that really does help. Thanks for anyone that can help. desperate in Pa.

Have a great weekend!! Donna

 

There are many ways to approach osteoarthritis and what works for one may not work for another.

For yrs the I believe that Glucosamine-Chondroitin and MSM have been used.

I read recently about Selenium being very good and Devils Claw is good for joints.

Other things used are Yucca, Boswellia and Bromelain.

I think you have to come up with the combo that works for you

Patt

"You can lead a man to knowledge,but you can't make him think "

[Guest guest]

THIS STUFF IS AWESOME! I wouldn't be without it in my cabinet.

 

 

herbal remedies , " olm " <olmtrader1 wrote:

>

> yes i and some firneds have had good luck w a chinese topical

solution

> called..get this...zheng gu shui.......it is dirt cheap and i had

a friend

> who is a hedge fund mgr..so he is real well heeled and his wife

has

> artritic knees and she tried it and she swears by it...she told me

tht it

> was the first time her knees didnt hurt in like 15 years.....wht

else can i

> say..

> olm

>

>

> -

> " Louise " <magoo5396

> <herbal remedies >

> Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:28 PM

> Herbal Remedies - Arthritis

>

>

> > Hi I have ostoarthristis in both my knees and the right one is

worse

> > than the left any one know of any remedy that I might try.

Thanks

> > Louise

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any

natural

> > remedy.

> > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own

physician and

> > to

> > prescribe for your own health.

> > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here

as long

> > as

> > they behave themselves.

> > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and

any

> > person

> > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own

risk.

> > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or

products from

> > list members, you are agreeing to

> > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List

Owner and

> > members free of any liability.

> >

> > Dr. Ian Shillington

> > Doctor of Naturopathy

> > Dr.IanShillington

> >

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/28/2006 2:39:55 P.M. Central Standard Time, eddonna writes:

 

I usually don't post and do a lot of reading and filling info since I have joined the goup, but this is so intereting since I have arthritis since I have been in my early 30's and now almost 60. I have done many things including working out/ watching my weight and food that I eat, and taking herbs including Glucosamine-Chondroitin and MSM for several years now. My questions is: who does have a proven combonation that has helped them in them and how much do you take daily of the herbs, and in what form do you take. Any help will sure help me a lot since this is something I have been dealing with over the past years and would love to find something that really does help. Thanks for anyone that can help. desperate in Pa.

 

Dear Donna,

 

I am not sure about herbs but I have a friend who had Rheumatoid Arthritis in her

early 30s. she took several meds and at times had to be literally carried in for

shots. It also affected her breathing and had frequent eye problems.

she decided she didn't want to spent the rest of her life like this so she made

radical diet changes. She gave up meat and diary and juiced carrots everyday

and put a barley green type product in each juice. Today she is 51, looks like she's in her mid 30s, works as a server in an upscale restaurant, doesn't take any meds and works circles around all of us. I have known her thru all of this and I am amazed.

She says her only complaint is that if she doesn't drink enough water, her hip hurts like

the old days.

 

Edith