Arthritis

[Guest guest]

Does your wife's hands swell when a storm is approaching? If so, there are

pockets of air and gases in the joints, and as a storm comes, the pressure

outside drops, causing the trapped air inside the joints to push out with

force, pushing on the inflamed tissue and causing pain. According to Bryan

Norcross, director of Meteorology, it is the increased electricity in the

atmosphere that aggravates arthritis or lumbago, and that some people

develop 'a sixth-sense response' to electrical fields. This has been proved

to be true in a study by Joseph L. Hollander, M.D., professor of emeritus of

medicine at the University of Pennsylvania, in his climatron. When he made

the air pressure drop and humidity rise, as it happens in thunderstorms,

arthritis worsened in all but 1 of a dozen subjects.

If this applies to you, I would suggest some evening primrose, I have

experiemented with it and found that it took about 2 weeks for it to work on

me. Check the weather channel and chart the barometric pressure and see if

you can correlate the swelling with pressure drops.

 

I would also look at my overall diet:

Eat more sulfur-containing foods, such as asparagus eggs, garlic, and

onions. Sulfur is needed for the repair and rebuilding of bone, cartilage,

and connective tissue, and aids in the absorption of calcium. Other good

foods include green leafy vegetables, which supply vitamin K; fresh

vegetables; non-acidic fresh fruits; whole grains; oatmeal; brown rice; and

fish.

Consume foods containing the amino acid histidine, including rice, wheat,

and rye. Histidine is good for removing excess metals from the body. Many

people with arthritis have high levels of copper and iron in their bodies.

Eat fresh pineapple frequently. Bromelain, an enzyme found in pineapple, is

excellent for reducing inflammation. To be effective, the pineapple must be

fresh, as freezing and canning destroy enzymes. Pineapple actually causes me

problems, but can help others.

Eat some form of fiber, such as ground flaxseeds, oat bran, or rice bran,

daily.

Reduce the amount of fat in your diet.

For relief of pain, try using cold gel packs. These retain cold for long

periods when frozen. Place them on inflamed joints. Alternate with

applications of heat.

Hot tubs and baths may provide relief. Raw lemon rubs and hot castor oil

packs are also extremely beneficial. To make a hot castor oil pack, place

castor oil in a pan and heat but do not boil it. Dip a piece of cheesecloth

or other white cotton material into the oil until the cloth is saturated.

Apply the cloth to the affected area and cover it with a piece of plastic

that is larger in size than the cotton cloth. Place a heating pad over the

plastic and use it to keep the pack warm. Keep the pack in place for

one-half to two hours, as needed. Castor oil hot pack works great!!

In the morning, take a hot shower or a bath to help relieve morning

stiffness.

Check for possible food allergies. Many sufferers of neck and shoulder pain

have found relief when they eliminate certain foods. Allergies to certain

foods appear to be linked to rheumatoid arthritis, particularly those in the

night shade family: tomatoes, eggplant, potatoes, pimiento, cayenne and

chili, red and bell peppers, tobacco. Experiment by removing these foods,

one at a time from the diet. If your arthritis worsens and then improves

after 5 or 6 days, you may be allergic or sensitive to it.

Spend time outdoors for fresh air and sunshine. Exposure to the sun prompts

the synthesis of vitamin D, which is needed for proper bone formation.

Get regular moderate exercise. Exercise is essential for reducing pain and

retarding joint deterioration. Regular activity that does not put stress on

affected joints, but that strengthens surrounding bones, muscles, and

ligaments, is valuable for many types of arthritis. Bicycle riding,

walking, and water exercises are good choices. Avoid weight bearing or

impact exercises.

If you are overweight, lose the excess pounds. Being overweight can cause

and aggravate osteoarthritis.

If you use ibuprofen or other nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs),

avoid sodium (salt), which causes water retention. Spread doses of these

medications out through the day, take them only after eating, and take an

antacid an hour after taking the drug. Especially if you are over sixty-five

or have had previous gastrointestinal bleeding.

If the blood is too acidic, this may cause the cartilage in the joints to

dissolve. The joints lose their normal smooth sliding motion, the bones rub

together, and the joints become inflamed. This causes pain. . Potato broth

works well for this.

Acetaminophen (sold as Tylenol, Datril, and others) may be a better

medication for osteoarthritis than NSAIDs. In many cases, it may be able to

relieve the pain of osteoarthritis as well as ibuprofen. Acetaminophen is

relatively safe and inexpensive. However, it is important not to exceed the

recommended dose of acetaminophen, and it should not be used by persons who

consume alcohol. If taken in excessive amounts or in combination with

alcohol, this drug can cause liver damage. I don't use them at all.

THINGS TO AVOID:

Studies suggest that vegetable oils, which contain omega-6 fatty acids,

aggravate arthritis symptoms. Cut back on salad dressings, margarine, fried

foods and olive, corn and canola oils.

Only take aspirin for arthritis or any non-steroid anti-inflammatory drug

(NSAIDs) for very short periods of time-like Motrin, Advil or Nuprin- they

may decrease your pain in the short run, but worsen your condition in the

long run by stopping new cartilage formation and increasing cartilage

destruction. Worse than that the dosage required to suppress your symptoms

can cause life-threatening peptic ulcers.

Do not consume milk, dairy products, or red meat. Tjey have a natural

occurring substance that involves the imflammatory response in your body.

Also avoid caffeine, corn, meats, wheat, oats, rye, eggs, potatoes,

tomatoes, nuts and coffee, citrus fruits, paprika, salt, tobacco, and

everything that contains sugar.

Avoid the nightshade vegetables (peppers, eggplant, tomatoes, and white

potatoes). These foods contain a substance called solanine, to which some

people, particularly those suffering from arthritis, are highly sensitive.

Solanine interferes with enzymes in the muscles, and may cause pain and

discomfort. This is a personnal thing, what may cause a problem for one

person may not for someone else. I can not tolerate citrus, myself.

Do not take iron supplements, or a multivitamin containing iron. Iron is

suspected of being involved in pain, swelling, and joint destruction.

Consume iron in foods instead. Good sources include blackstrap molasses,

broccoli, Brussels sprouts, cauliflower, fish, lima beans, and peas.

 

If you need more info than this, let you know-I have RA and FB, so I have a

far amount of info.

Dottie

 

-

<jbrower

<herbal remedies >

Sunday, October 03, 1999 7:41 PM

[herbal remedies] Arthritis

 

 

> jbrower

>

> Hi:

>

> I'm a new member of the list. I am 49 and my wife is 48. We have

recently been concerned about arthritis. I fell about two months ago, and

broke my left arm, requiring surgery. I broke the radius at the point where

it joins in with the elbow and upper arm. I had surgery and the doctor put

in some pins that do not have to be removed. He said that I also had

crushed the little " head piece " that fits the bone in with the other part of

the arm.

>

> I have been taking physical therapy three times a week, and have improved

the " crook " in my arm from a 30% bend down to 15%. I will continue therapy

for some time. The doctor says that I have done well with this, and also

much of my ability to rotate the arm is back.

>

> He is concerned that I may have arthritis set in, however. It is tender

now, but I don't think it has yet.

>

> My wife works as a secretary in a local community college, and her hands

are swollen, especially after she does yard work on weekends, etc. They are

very tender, and she feels that " Arthur " may have set in as well. She's sad

because she also loves to do crafts and made the comment the other day that

it looks like as she gets older and finally has some time to do some things

that she likes to do that she may not be able to do them if she has a lot of

problems with her hands.

>

> Do any of you have any suggestions as to products, or exercises that we

could do to help ourselves avoid more arthritis problems.

>

> I have taken Shaklee products in the past, and receive some Enrich herbal

products now wholesale, but I am not an active distributor, and I don't

really know all that much about health. I do have some basic knowledge

though.

>

> Thanks a lot for any help.

>

> Jimmy Brower

>

> > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural

remedy.

> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and

to

> prescribe for your own health.

> We are not doctors although doctors are welcome to post here as long as

> they behave themselves.

> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any

person

> following the advice of anyone posting here do so at their own risk.

> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice from list

members,

> and by accepting any products from Organic Solutions, you are agreeing to

> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and

> Organic Solutions free of any liability.

> Organic Solutions 1844 Springtime Ave., Clearwater FL 33755

> Phone: 727-447-6863 FAX: 727-447-6491

> e-mail: ian_shillington

[Guest guest]

I have been reading about DSMO,and have heard that it is excellent for

arthritis.

 

" Carl , Dottie, or Sparkle " wrote:

 

> " Carl , Dottie, or Sparkle " <tapakey

>

> Does your wife's hands swell when a storm is approaching? If so, there are

> pockets of air and gases in the joints, and as a storm comes, the pressure

> outside drops, causing the trapped air inside the joints to push out with

> force, pushing on the inflamed tissue and causing pain. According to Bryan

> Norcross, director of Meteorology, it is the increased electricity in the

> atmosphere that aggravates arthritis or lumbago, and that some people

> develop 'a sixth-sense response' to electrical fields. This has been proved

> to be true in a study by Joseph L. Hollander, M.D., professor of emeritus of

> medicine at the University of Pennsylvania, in his climatron. When he made

> the air pressure drop and humidity rise, as it happens in thunderstorms,

> arthritis worsened in all but 1 of a dozen subjects.

> If this applies to you, I would suggest some evening primrose, I have

> experiemented with it and found that it took about 2 weeks for it to work on

> me. Check the weather channel and chart the barometric pressure and see if

> you can correlate the swelling with pressure drops.

>

> I would also look at my overall diet:

> Eat more sulfur-containing foods, such as asparagus eggs, garlic, and

> onions. Sulfur is needed for the repair and rebuilding of bone, cartilage,

> and connective tissue, and aids in the absorption of calcium. Other good

> foods include green leafy vegetables, which supply vitamin K; fresh

> vegetables; non-acidic fresh fruits; whole grains; oatmeal; brown rice; and

> fish.

> Consume foods containing the amino acid histidine, including rice, wheat,

> and rye. Histidine is good for removing excess metals from the body. Many

> people with arthritis have high levels of copper and iron in their bodies.

> Eat fresh pineapple frequently. Bromelain, an enzyme found in pineapple, is

> excellent for reducing inflammation. To be effective, the pineapple must be

> fresh, as freezing and canning destroy enzymes. Pineapple actually causes me

> problems, but can help others.

> Eat some form of fiber, such as ground flaxseeds, oat bran, or rice bran,

> daily.

> Reduce the amount of fat in your diet.

> For relief of pain, try using cold gel packs. These retain cold for long

> periods when frozen. Place them on inflamed joints. Alternate with

> applications of heat.

> Hot tubs and baths may provide relief. Raw lemon rubs and hot castor oil

> packs are also extremely beneficial. To make a hot castor oil pack, place

> castor oil in a pan and heat but do not boil it. Dip a piece of cheesecloth

> or other white cotton material into the oil until the cloth is saturated.

> Apply the cloth to the affected area and cover it with a piece of plastic

> that is larger in size than the cotton cloth. Place a heating pad over the

> plastic and use it to keep the pack warm. Keep the pack in place for

> one-half to two hours, as needed. Castor oil hot pack works great!!

> In the morning, take a hot shower or a bath to help relieve morning

> stiffness.

> Check for possible food allergies. Many sufferers of neck and shoulder pain

> have found relief when they eliminate certain foods. Allergies to certain

> foods appear to be linked to rheumatoid arthritis, particularly those in the

> night shade family: tomatoes, eggplant, potatoes, pimiento, cayenne and

> chili, red and bell peppers, tobacco. Experiment by removing these foods,

> one at a time from the diet. If your arthritis worsens and then improves

> after 5 or 6 days, you may be allergic or sensitive to it.

> Spend time outdoors for fresh air and sunshine. Exposure to the sun prompts

> the synthesis of vitamin D, which is needed for proper bone formation.

> Get regular moderate exercise. Exercise is essential for reducing pain and

> retarding joint deterioration. Regular activity that does not put stress on

> affected joints, but that strengthens surrounding bones, muscles, and

> ligaments, is valuable for many types of arthritis. Bicycle riding,

> walking, and water exercises are good choices. Avoid weight bearing or

> impact exercises.

> If you are overweight, lose the excess pounds. Being overweight can cause

> and aggravate osteoarthritis.

> If you use ibuprofen or other nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs),

> avoid sodium (salt), which causes water retention. Spread doses of these

> medications out through the day, take them only after eating, and take an

> antacid an hour after taking the drug. Especially if you are over sixty-five

> or have had previous gastrointestinal bleeding.

> If the blood is too acidic, this may cause the cartilage in the joints to

> dissolve. The joints lose their normal smooth sliding motion, the bones rub

> together, and the joints become inflamed. This causes pain. . Potato broth

> works well for this.

> Acetaminophen (sold as Tylenol, Datril, and others) may be a better

> medication for osteoarthritis than NSAIDs. In many cases, it may be able to

> relieve the pain of osteoarthritis as well as ibuprofen. Acetaminophen is

> relatively safe and inexpensive. However, it is important not to exceed the

> recommended dose of acetaminophen, and it should not be used by persons who

> consume alcohol. If taken in excessive amounts or in combination with

> alcohol, this drug can cause liver damage. I don't use them at all.

> THINGS TO AVOID:

> Studies suggest that vegetable oils, which contain omega-6 fatty acids,

> aggravate arthritis symptoms. Cut back on salad dressings, margarine, fried

> foods and olive, corn and canola oils.

> Only take aspirin for arthritis or any non-steroid anti-inflammatory drug

> (NSAIDs) for very short periods of time-like Motrin, Advil or Nuprin- they

> may decrease your pain in the short run, but worsen your condition in the

> long run by stopping new cartilage formation and increasing cartilage

> destruction. Worse than that the dosage required to suppress your symptoms

> can cause life-threatening peptic ulcers.

> Do not consume milk, dairy products, or red meat. Tjey have a natural

> occurring substance that involves the imflammatory response in your body.

> Also avoid caffeine, corn, meats, wheat, oats, rye, eggs, potatoes,

> tomatoes, nuts and coffee, citrus fruits, paprika, salt, tobacco, and

> everything that contains sugar.

> Avoid the nightshade vegetables (peppers, eggplant, tomatoes, and white

> potatoes). These foods contain a substance called solanine, to which some

> people, particularly those suffering from arthritis, are highly sensitive.

> Solanine interferes with enzymes in the muscles, and may cause pain and

> discomfort. This is a personnal thing, what may cause a problem for one

> person may not for someone else. I can not tolerate citrus, myself.

> Do not take iron supplements, or a multivitamin containing iron. Iron is

> suspected of being involved in pain, swelling, and joint destruction.

> Consume iron in foods instead. Good sources include blackstrap molasses,

> broccoli, Brussels sprouts, cauliflower, fish, lima beans, and peas.

>

> If you need more info than this, let you know-I have RA and FB, so I have a

> far amount of info.

> Dottie

>

> -

> <jbrower

> <herbal remedies >

> Sunday, October 03, 1999 7:41 PM

> [herbal remedies] Arthritis

>

> > jbrower

> >

> > Hi:

> >

> > I'm a new member of the list. I am 49 and my wife is 48. We have

> recently been concerned about arthritis. I fell about two months ago, and

> broke my left arm, requiring surgery. I broke the radius at the point where

> it joins in with the elbow and upper arm. I had surgery and the doctor put

> in some pins that do not have to be removed. He said that I also had

> crushed the little " head piece " that fits the bone in with the other part of

> the arm.

> >

> > I have been taking physical therapy three times a week, and have improved

> the " crook " in my arm from a 30% bend down to 15%. I will continue therapy

> for some time. The doctor says that I have done well with this, and also

> much of my ability to rotate the arm is back.

> >

> > He is concerned that I may have arthritis set in, however. It is tender

> now, but I don't think it has yet.

> >

> > My wife works as a secretary in a local community college, and her hands

> are swollen, especially after she does yard work on weekends, etc. They are

> very tender, and she feels that " Arthur " may have set in as well. She's sad

> because she also loves to do crafts and made the comment the other day that

> it looks like as she gets older and finally has some time to do some things

> that she likes to do that she may not be able to do them if she has a lot of

> problems with her hands.

> >

> > Do any of you have any suggestions as to products, or exercises that we

> could do to help ourselves avoid more arthritis problems.

> >

> > I have taken Shaklee products in the past, and receive some Enrich herbal

> products now wholesale, but I am not an active distributor, and I don't

> really know all that much about health. I do have some basic knowledge

> though.

> >

> > Thanks a lot for any help.

> >

> > Jimmy Brower

> >

> > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural

> remedy.

> > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and

> to

> > prescribe for your own health.

> > We are not doctors although doctors are welcome to post here as long as

> > they behave themselves.

> > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any

> person

> > following the advice of anyone posting here do so at their own risk.

> > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice from list

> members,

> > and by accepting any products from Organic Solutions, you are agreeing to

> > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and

> > Organic Solutions free of any liability.

> > Organic Solutions 1844 Springtime Ave., Clearwater FL 33755

> > Phone: 727-447-6863 FAX: 727-447-6491

> > e-mail: ian_shillington

>

> > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural

remedy.

> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to

> prescribe for your own health.

> We are not doctors although doctors are welcome to post here as long as

> they behave themselves.

> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person

> following the advice of anyone posting here do so at their own risk.

> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice from list members,

> and by accepting any products from Organic Solutions, you are agreeing to

> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and

> Organic Solutions free of any liability.

> Organic Solutions 1844 Springtime Ave., Clearwater FL 33755

> Phone: 727-447-6863 FAX: 727-447-6491

> e-mail: ian_shillington

 

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Hi,

 

I find that Glucosamine and condroitin do wonders.

 

Celeste

[Guest guest]

Dear Audrey:

Carolyn Myss speaks alot about arthritis. Her first book, " creation of

health " , allows you to actually look up the disease and see what the

energetics, and emotions related to it are. Alot has to do with where your

arthritis occurs. I wouldn't want to guess at the energetics of it, as I

just don't know. But I really trust the info from Corolyn Myss.

love,

connie

 

(I love everybody, and YOUR NEXT!)

 

 

www.whateverworkswellness.com

 

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> audreylee

>

> Tue, 24 Apr 2001 15:08:18 -0000

>

> Arthritis

>

> Hello all,

>

> I would love to get some information/impressions from any of you who

> are interested in replying:

>

> My doctor has diagnosed me as having some osteo-arthritis. My knees

> hurt sometimes, my left shoulder alot, other joints occationally. Both

> my parents had it and my mother also had reumatoid arthritis. After

> reading the posts regarding the thymus/chakras and miscarriage/guilt,

> I am wondering what connections to make regarding this. Also would be

> interested in hearing about anyone else's helpful hints or personal

> experiences with (?)overcoming arthritis.

>

> Thanks,

> Audrey

[Guest guest]

Audrey wrote:

"

Hello all,

 

I would love to get some information/impressions from any of you who

are interested in replying:

 

My doctor has diagnosed me as having some osteo-arthritis. "

 

Dear Audrey,

My experience over the years of working with people with arthritis is

that it's difficult to isolate single causes, dietary, emotional or

developmental which, when remedied, fix the arthritis.

More commonly people come to understand a general attitude that they

have to themselves, others and to life which lies at the root of

their " self inflammation " or arthritis. Usually this is some self

criticism or self doubt which pervades much of their thinking and

being. Reversing this is a life long task and cannot be hurried. In

fact the willingness to allow it to take its time to leave is the

factor which most hastens its disappearance.

Take care and good luck

Jo

[Guest guest]

Hi, Audrey - a friend of mine has a tendency towards arthritis (she's mid-40s),

but since she cut

out tomatoes, bell peppers, potatoes and aubergines (eggplant) from her diet she

has very little

trouble. If she eats any of those foods, the arthritis flares. They're all the

same family - same

as deadly nightshade - belladonna. That's her experience - what validity it has

I can't comment, but

it works for her!

 

Arabella

[Guest guest]

dear audrey

 

celery seeds are also considered as a natural remedy fot arthritis.

be well

Anat

[Guest guest]

Dear Connie,

Thanks. I have read Carolyn's second book but not this one yet. It's

now at second place after i finish " excuse me your life is waiting. "

Audrey

 

Hugs - the perfect gift:

Available anywhere

One size fits all

Fully returnable

 

, tink-im <tink-im@c...> wrote:

> Dear Audrey:

> Carolyn Myss speaks alot about arthritis. Her first book,

" creation of

> health " , allows you to actually look up the disease and see what the

> energetics, and emotions related to it are. Alot has to do with

where your

> arthritis occurs. I wouldn't want to guess at the energetics of it,

as I

> just don't know. But I really trust the info from Corolyn Myss.

> love,

> connie

>

> (I love everybody, and YOUR NEXT!)

[Guest guest]

Thanks Arabella,

I knew about the nightshade connection but, since I rarely eat any of

those things (except during peak home-grown-tomatoe season :-j), it

should not be a part of it for me. Thank you much for in-putting

though.

Hug you,

Audrey

 

, Arabella McIntyre-Brown <abs@a...> wrote:

> Hi, Audrey - a friend of mine has a tendency towards arthritis

(she's mid-40s), but since she cut

> out tomatoes, bell peppers, potatoes and aubergines (eggplant) from

her diet she has very little

> trouble. If she eats any of those foods, the arthritis flares.

They're all the same family - same

> as deadly nightshade - belladonna. That's her experience - what

validity it has I can't comment, but

> it works for her!

>

> Arabella

[Guest guest]

Jo,

Arrgh! PATIENT!? I should be Patient and Kind and Accepting of myself?

Oh dear; you are so right that this will be a life long task.

 

Student: " How long will it take for me to find enlightenment? "

Master: (pause for thought) " Perhaps ten years. "

Student: " If I work very hard, how long then? "

Master: " In that case, twenty years. "

Student: " And if I work very, very hard and apply myself to learning

quickly, how long then? "

Master: " Thirty years. "

Student: " Master, I do not understand, each time that I say I will

work harder, you say it will take me longer. Why is this so? "

Master: " In your case, it may take several lifetimes... "

 

Audrey

 

 

, levitron@l... wrote:

> Dear Audrey,

> My experience over the years of working with people with arthritis

is

> that it's difficult to isolate single causes, dietary, emotional or

> developmental which, when remedied, fix the arthritis.

> More commonly people come to understand a general attitude that they

> have to themselves, others and to life which lies at the root of

> their " self inflammation " or arthritis. Usually this is some self

> criticism or self doubt which pervades much of their thinking and

> being. Reversing this is a life long task and cannot be hurried.

In

> fact the willingness to allow it to take its time to leave is the

> factor which most hastens its disappearance.

> Take care and good luck

> Jo

[Guest guest]

Celeste,

Thank you for inputting. I was using glucosamine when my knees were

really bothering me. Maybe I'll give it another go.

 

Thanks,

Audrey

 

, celeste m sullivan <csull3@j...> wrote:

> Hi,

>

> I find that Glucosamine and condroitin do wonders.

>

> Celeste

[Guest guest]

Anat,

Celery seeds. OK. Just chew 'em up and eat 'em I guess, or apply

directly? ;-)

Thanks!

Audrey

 

, " pine " <pine@i...> wrote:

> dear audrey

>

> celery seeds are also considered as a natural remedy fot arthritis.

> be well

> Anat

[Guest guest]

>

> tink-im [tink-im]

> Carolyn Myss speaks alot about arthritis. Her first

> book, " creation of

> health " , allows you to actually look up the disease and see what the

> energetics, and emotions related to it are. Alot has to do

> with where your arthritis occurs.

 

Some links that refer to arthritis at Caroline Myss' Discussion Forums

include:

 

Energy implications of arthritis

http://64.37.202.203/board/Noncgi/Forum3/HTML/000103.html

 

energetic dimensions of CTS & osteoarthritis

http://64.37.202.203/board/Noncgi/Forum3/HTML/000130.html

 

Sjorgen's Syndrome

http://64.37.202.203/board/Noncgi/Forum4/HTML/000129.html

 

Trying to get my life back

http://64.37.202.203/board/Noncgi/Forum4/HTML/000284.html

 

worn out knees - how familiar!

http://64.37.202.203/board/Noncgi/Forum4/HTML/000230.html

 

On my knees and without hands

http://64.37.202.203/board/Noncgi/Forum4/HTML/000299.html

 

I hope these help!

 

Many blessings,

MichelleH

[Guest guest]

Michelle:

 

Thanks for the links, I figured you'd come through with Carolyn's take on this.

 

Audrey...

 

It's good to know what kind of arthritis you are diagnosed with, since there are

several kinds, and each arises from a different area... rheumatoid arthritis is

more of an immune system, and hence heart/high heart issue, while osteoarthritis

is usually due to wear on the bones and cartilage, which are structural and more

of a root issue.

 

Knees... we've discussed knees before; they have a lot of implications in the

solar plexus, insult to self esteem, pride, resentment, etc. Being on your

knees

requires not only physical flexibility but can represent humility, reverence or

submission (it is a traditional prayer posture, and marriage proposal posture,

also). Shoulders may relate to issues of responsibility, especially

uncomfortable

or heavy responsibility you are " shouldering " . You'll find some good info at

Carolyn's pages, and you might also like to explore Louise Hay and Debbie

Shapiro's " Bodymind Workbook " .

 

Look to the chakra information, then, for root and solar plexus chakra

information... and if you feel that for some reason you have some issues you

have

been unable to express that might be leading to frustration or burnout, check

out

the throat chakra as well.

 

I can agree with whoever commented on glucosamine/chondroitin for rebuilding

cartilage, and Russ may have some info about a material that resembles DMSO that

is useful for pain. A combination of both helped my father with his knees (he

has

also learned to do Therapeutic Touch on himself).

 

Blessings,

Crow

 

Michelle Hughes wrote:

 

> >

> > tink-im [tink-im]

> > Carolyn Myss speaks alot about arthritis. Her first

> > book, " creation of

> > health " , allows you to actually look up the disease and see what the

> > energetics, and emotions related to it are. Alot has to do

> > with where your arthritis occurs.

>

> Some links that refer to arthritis at Caroline Myss' Discussion Forums

> include:

>

> Energy implications of arthritis

> http://64.37.202.203/board/Noncgi/Forum3/HTML/000103.html

>

> energetic dimensions of CTS & osteoarthritis

> http://64.37.202.203/board/Noncgi/Forum3/HTML/000130.html

>

> Sjorgen's Syndrome

> http://64.37.202.203/board/Noncgi/Forum4/HTML/000129.html

>

> Trying to get my life back

> http://64.37.202.203/board/Noncgi/Forum4/HTML/000284.html

>

> worn out knees - how familiar!

> http://64.37.202.203/board/Noncgi/Forum4/HTML/000230.html

>

> On my knees and without hands

> http://64.37.202.203/board/Noncgi/Forum4/HTML/000299.html

>

> I hope these help!

>

> Many blessings,

> MichelleH

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Linda, You're very welcome!

Audrey

 

, drnature <drnature@e...> wrote:

> I LOVED this Audrey! Thanks for sharing it.

>

> Linda

> " DrNature "

> http://www.drnature.net

>

> audreylee@n... wrote:

>

> > Jo,

> > Arrgh! PATIENT!? I should be Patient and Kind and Accepting of

myself?

> > Oh dear; you are so right that this will be a life long task.

> >

> > Student: " How long will it take for me to find enlightenment? "

> > Master: (pause for thought) " Perhaps ten years. "

> > Student: " If I work very hard, how long then? "

> > Master: " In that case, twenty years. "

> > Student: " And if I work very, very hard and apply myself to

learning

> > quickly, how long then? "

> > Master: " Thirty years. "

> > Student: " Master, I do not understand, each time that I say I will

> > work harder, you say it will take me longer. Why is this so? "

> > Master: " In your case, it may take several lifetimes... "

> >

> > Audrey

[Guest guest]

Michelle, Crow,

Thank you so much for your input on arthritis. I hope to get to those

links etc. today or soon.

Audrey

[Guest guest]

Audrey

 

i looked at the book about celery seeds: you have to eat them or drink an

infusion o tea.

but of course the best remedy would start from the mind: talking to your

body and asking it to get rid of the malady and live in vibrant health.

 

I used this technique many times with amazing results, last month i had some

very strong cramps at the begining of the period which usually last foe half

a day until the blood flows,

so I stopped everything aND entered inside.... and spoke to my body asking

it to

release the blood and stop the pain. it took only 5 minutes to stop the pain

completely.

I thought to myself - we have such a splendid power inside - our awarness -

we should harness this power much more instead of pills or herbs .

 

I wish you all the best. be well and happy.

 

Anat

[Guest guest]

Christina,

In the list files, I believe there is a recipe for Deep Tissue Repair Oil. I

have made it for my husband who has alot of arthritis, and it helps the pain.

Take care,

Renee

[Guest guest]

, felecia@s... wrote:

 

> Gold is the 1# master healer.

> Ruby is 2nd master healer.

 

While I don't necessarily disagree, I have also read (somewhere) that

diamonds are most powerful and that clear quartz is, too. There are

many contradictory claims in the world of crystal study.

 

Be open to the possibility of a variety of master healers! I have

found specific crystals of different varieties to be " my " masters.

 

Namaste,

 

Sally

[Guest guest]

Hugs and Kisses,

Malachite for me is the great purger.

I also sleep with stones. but I use band-aid tape to keep them in place.

You'll have to tell us how Nana feels about hematite.

blessings to you and yours,

felecia angela

 

, Clara Bow <clarabow@d...> wrote:

> Hi Everyone

>

> I bought my Nana some malachite for her arthritis and she absolutely

> swears by them. She sits each night with two in her hands, and says she

> can feel the relief almost immediately. She sometimes sleeps with them

> but not often as they are always lost in the sheets come morning!

>

> I also bought her some hematite, but I don't know if this works, as I

> only gave her it the other day and haven't had chance to ask her yet.

>

> Michelle.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/27/02 8:12:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, herbal remedies writes: >>>i have cronic pain brough on by arthritis and something called fybromaliga (sp) and a few other diseases but nothing life threatening jsut terrible pain. im on narcotics that dont help at all for the real bad pain but with out them i cant survive, because the lesser pain just kills me too with out them>>>

Cayenne based ointments should give you some relief... also soaking your hands in organic apple cider vinegar for at least 20 minutes or more a day will also help.

Suzi

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[Guest guest]

I would also recommend reducing./removing dairy from your diet and eating

totally organic foods only. Take a really good glucosamine supplement

combined with cod liver oil and keeping the joints moving, is essential.

Coming from cold old UK, I found that a couple of weeks in California was

always good for reducing the symptoms. Warm dry heat is very good for my

arthritis but they are all different and what works for one doesn;t always

work for othes.

 

 

> ]>Need some advice - i'm a piano player and have a big knot on my right

> ]>thumb joint which has developed over about the last 6 months. its not

> ]>too painful to a light touch but an ouch when knocked on the

>

> Stupid suggestion time. Spend an hour a day with a heat pad over

> the arm. Run it from your elbow to past your fingers.

>

> Increase your magnesium intake.

>

> Elimate all forms of sugar from your diet. [ Honey, Birch syrup,

> maple Syrup, beet sugar, cane sugar & alcohol. ]

>

> ]>occaisionally. Classic osteoarthritis, it looks like. Grandma had it

>

> Cut your protein intake. [ Protein appears to increase

> osteoarthristis. ]

>

> xan

>

> jonathon

>

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

What an inspirational post Alobar, thank you I will take note and up my

intake of ginger immediately - I know that it is good and I do take it daily

but I think I should have more.

 

Marianne

 

 

>

>

> There have been lots of suggestions on this topic since you

> made this post, Scarlett. What I have is a bit of anecdotal

> experience which may or may not be useful.

>

> Over the years, my hands have hurt in cold weather. About a

> decade ago, I realized that putting on gloves in the winter was a bit

> of a task. Over succeeding years the inconvenience turned to pain.

> About 5 years ago I noticed that even putting on a kitchen

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

-

<scarlett

 

Sunday, January 12, 2003 1:52 PM

arthritis

 

 

> Need some advice - i'm a piano player and have a big knot on my

right

> thumb joint which has developed over about the last 6 months. its

not

> too painful to a light touch but an ouch when knocked on the

> keyboard. Also have little shooting pains in other fingers

> occaisionally. Classic osteoarthritis, it looks like. Grandma had

it

> and got all crippled up so i am kind of nervous.... Any

suggestions?

> Thanks a lot...scarlett

 

There have been lots of suggestions on this topic since you

made this post, Scarlett. What I have is a bit of anecdotal

experience which may or may not be useful.

 

Over the years, my hands have hurt in cold weather. About a

decade ago, I realized that putting on gloves in the winter was a bit

of a task. Over succeeding years the inconvenience turned to pain.

About 5 years ago I noticed that even putting on a kitchen mitt was

painful. Very difficult for me to button my shirt cuffs as well.

Likewise, reaching behind me to touch my hands together became

increasingly difficult.

 

I did not like this, but as my Mother had gnarly hands which

had a difficult time knitting or crocheting by the time she as my

age, I accepted it as normal.

 

About a year & a half ago, I was diagnosed as having

diabetes, and I began to look at what I could do for my blood sugar

levels, and for the neuropathy in my hands & feet. I added two

items to my diet at this time to hopefully slow down or perhaps even

partially reverse neuropathy. Those items are cinnamon and fresh

ginger. I started very light with both as I am not a big fan of

cinnamon while ginger I absolutely detested. I added both to my

morning smoothie. I began to feel better in a matter of days. My

body seemed to want more. So I gradually upped my dose. Over about

two weeks time, my ginger dose went from one slice of root about the

size of a US quarter dollar to a hunk of ginger about twice the size

of my big toe. My Cinnamon dose went from less than 1/4 stick to a

full stick.

 

About the same time, I also read somewhere (in Dr.Jon's

newsletter, if I remember correctly) that gelatin also was good for

joint health, so I began to add one envelope of unflavored gelatin to

my smoothie as well.

 

Today, there is no pain or discomfort in putting on a kitchen

mitt, no pain, but slight stiffness when putting on tight winter

gloves. Only slight discomfort when sitting outside in the cold for

hours. Reaching behind me is still difficult & slightly painful.

Buttoning my cuffs is still not easy, but is easier than it was a

year ago.

 

I have been eating mainly organic foods (except for frozen

veggies) for some years now. I consider myself a moderate meat eater

(once a day) & dairy user. In the past year, I gave up most all

sugar, grains, starchy veggies, and sauces made with MSG, sugars,

etc. I still eat 3 slices of bread a week & whatever preservatives

& sugars are in 3 breakfast sausage links. I have never smoked. I

used to be a light drinker (1 glass of wine per week, plus eggnog &

hot buttered rum around Yuletime), but now I am almost totally

abstinent -- using one bottle of sherry in cooking per year).

 

I have no idea what item or combination of items helped my

painful hands. But they have remarkably improved. Good luck on

your quest.

 

Alobar

[Guest guest]

Gettingwell , " Alobar " <alobar@b...> wrote:

>

> .

>

> Alobar-----I would like to know more about the smoothie you put

this into... Made with blender? also would the powdered work? or do

I need fresh ginger. Cinnamon stick?

I find all this very helpful today. I have a lot of arthritis and

neuropathy from diabetes and chemotherepy. I live in the Midwest and

the cold is sure getting to my fingers and feet. the only thing my

oncoligist told me to do is 200mg of B-6.a day. Does not help much.

Thanks for sharing. Joan