Guest guest Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 ---if you e mail me i have a file on this very thing which you can try pho phill In , Eandrew T <eandrewt2000 wrote: > > Wondering if anyone has some natural cures/relief for sore joints in my fingers and hip. I have been taking Glucosamine/Chrondroitin/MSM for a long time without much help. > > > > > > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go > with Mail for Mobile. Get started. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 OK, I will try the Knox treatment, it seems too easy,but maybe the simple things work best. I will keep u informed, thanks edgetexlady <rbright wrote: I, too, took Glucosamine, etc. for weeks prior to my knee surgery (removal of some cartilage) in January. The only thing that helped with the discomfort is Knox Gelatin (go figure!) Find it in the grocery store over next to the Jello section. Orange & white box, contains four packets. Typically, take about 4 oz. orange juice (or juice of your choice - COLD), stir as you pour one packet in and drink immediately. I usually follow with another glass of water. I took it last Tuesday a.m., and woke up Wednesday a.m. with no pain. I was amazed! Plus, I just feel better all over (I'm almost 58) - I wished I'd heard of this sooner. For most people, one packet a day works fine -- but if you need more, then take another one with a cool liquid in the evening. I researched on line for any bad side effects, found none. It's also less expensive than glucosamine/chondroitin, etc., and you only have to take it once a day (as opposed to three times a day). They use it on dogs and horses who have problems with arthritis as well. Upon mentioning it to my son (who raises horses) he said, " oh yeah, we use that on our horses all the time. " I will say, however, if I walk on concrete (the mall ... I hate to shop any way) for a while, some pain comes back. But once I've slept, taken the morning juice combo, I feel fine again. So I'm learning not to push it. Dede Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 There is one theory that by staying away from " nightshade " vegetables, could help with arthritis symptoms. Particularly tomatoes and potatoes. Check to see if your diet includes a lot of these 2 foods, french fries, tomatoe sauce, pizza etc. and if so, try staying away from them for 2 weeks to see if symptoms change. Chinese herbal formulas also help with arthritis and you can get some here http://www.holisticchineseherbs.com Also acupuncture is VERY helpful for arthritis. Find a local acupuncturist or we can help you find a qualified one. http://www.TCMdirectory.com , Eandrew T <eandrewt2000 wrote: > > Wondering if anyone has some natural cures/relief for sore joints in my fingers and hip. I have been taking Glucosamine/Chrondroitin/MSM for a long time without much help. > > > > > > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go > with Mail for Mobile. Get started. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 I once had a book by a Western-trained doctor of Chinese origin. When he developed rheumatoid arthritis he first tried all sorts of " regular " medicine. Nothing worked. Then he remembered an old Chinese anti-arthritis diet. It consisted of rice, vegetables, and fish. That was it. Nothing else. He cured himself and many others with this diet. The book, written in the seventies, was called The Arthritis Cookbook. I gave it away, and cannot look up the author, but the principle is pretty basic! However, that was before the waters of the world were so filled with pollution that eating fish becomes a dilemma. The take-home message from this book is that the diet avoided many common allergens: corn, wheat, soy, eggs, dairy..... Checking out food allergens and sensitivities is vital to good health. More later.... Ien in the Kootenays http://freegreenliving.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 Taking pectin along with the knox gelatin also would be good to take. pectin can be found in the canning section. It is used in making jam. peace, thyme <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 ankolosing spondalitis runs in my family and a few years ago i required help to get out of bed...turn the shower on and all those other morning activities...i was 26. my father went on this nutbag blood group diet and was able to weild a circular saw for the first time in years. so i went on the diet and gave up my o type love of food more a more vegetarian diet... i can not give diet enough importance in the battle against arthritis. i know i'm on borrowed time bit i have sold my car and ride my bike EVERYWHERE! i'm 33 and love life again. well..maybe not child support or taxation, but definately mobility. Kind Regards, Hamish D Youngberry Please Note: This e-mail may contain information that represents the views and opinions of the author. The information in this e-mail is confidential. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee(s) named. Any unauthorised use of the e-mail or contents is strictly prohibited. Please advise us if you have received the e-mail in error. Thank you. -------------------------------- The Keeper of the Big Blue Cable of Connectivity TKBBCC - DNRC I:274300250 Y:hamish_dy M:hamish WL:hamish-dy E:hamish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 You are so right Hamish! Diet has everything to do with Dis-ease in the body and also stress. 95% of disease( dis-ease ) is caused by stress. My partner is using both Biofeedback and Vegan diet to reduce the symptoms and correct the damage that SERO Negative Spondilitis has done to his body. 2 years ago he was walking with a cane, on pain meds and in pain 24/7. He had limited flexibility and was about 70 pounds overweight. The Dr had told him he would be in a wheel chair by age 60, he was 42 at the time. Today he is off the pain meds, no longer uses the cane, has lost 50 of the 70 lbs and has more flexibility and generally feels better. Chiropractor and the Structural Therapist he has seen have both said they cannot find the fused vertebrae! He doesn't believe in allopthic drs. He will readily attribute it to the Biofeedback and changes in his diet. Jenny Kernan Quantum Biofeedback Therapist --- Hamish D Youngberry <hamish.d.youngberry wrote: > ankolosing spondalitis runs in my family and a few > years ago i required help > to get out of bed...turn the shower on and all those > other morning > activities...i was 26. > > my father went on this nutbag blood group diet and > was able to weild a > circular saw for the first time in years. > > so i went on the diet and gave up my o type love of > food more a more > vegetarian diet... > > > i can not give diet enough importance in the battle > against arthritis. > > i know i'm on borrowed time bit i have sold my car > and ride my bike > EVERYWHERE! i'm 33 and love life again. > > well..maybe not child support or taxation, but > definately mobility. > > > > Kind Regards, > > Hamish D Youngberry > > > > > Please Note: > This e-mail may contain information that represents > the views and opinions > of the author. The information in this e-mail is > confidential. It is > intended solely for the use of the addressee(s) > named. Any unauthorised use > of the e-mail or contents is strictly prohibited. > Please advise us if you > have received the e-mail in error. Thank you. > > -------------------------------- > The Keeper of the Big Blue Cable of Connectivity > TKBBCC - DNRC > > I:274300250 > Y:hamish_dy > M:hamish > WL:hamish-dy > E:hamish > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 Hi: I have been using simple " Vicks " to massage on the joints to relieve the soreness on my fingers, elbows, shoulders or neck, or any other part of my body, even when I fell, I massage with vicks, next day no bruise or inflammation not even pain. Also, for the Sciatica pain and cause of trouble to move around, it works; I live in Canada for along 10 years, Scientists have discovered that vicks can cure arthritis,when is not severe. Still can give some relieve for the swallowing and pain. If desired, check the Eucalyptus Properties on the INTERNET. hope you find this useful, Tammy > " TCMdirectory.com " <elieg1969 > > > Re: arthritis >Thu, 08 Mar 2007 01:34:05 -0000 > >There is one theory that by staying away from " nightshade " vegetables, >could help with arthritis symptoms. Particularly tomatoes and >potatoes. Check to see if your diet includes a lot of these 2 foods, >french fries, tomatoe sauce, pizza etc. and if so, try staying away >from them for 2 weeks to see if symptoms change. Chinese herbal >formulas also help with arthritis and you can get some here >http://www.holisticchineseherbs.com >Also acupuncture is VERY helpful for arthritis. Find a local >acupuncturist or we can help you find a qualified one. > >http://www.TCMdirectory.com > > , Eandrew T ><eandrewt2000 wrote: > > > > Wondering if anyone has some natural cures/relief for sore joints in >my fingers and hip. I have been taking Glucosamine/Chrondroitin/MSM >for a long time without much help. > > > > > > > > > > > > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go > > with Mail for Mobile. Get started. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 Hi there, My best advice to you - - See an acupuncturist for pain relief - there is lots of good research on the topic, and I know that my acupuncturist has a lot of patients there for pain management -HOmeopathy - I like a brand called " heel " , that is found in Europe, Canada and the US. They have a product called " Zeel " which according to their studies, has worked better for arthritic pain than Vioxx or Celebrex, and works with your own body, without the chemicals! I have used other products by the same company, but have not used Zeel myself, just read studies and took a few seminars regarding them. -I also, as previous posts have shown, am a firm believer in chiropractic, especially for hip pain, although some will do extremity adjustments. I know there are also other herbs and formulas out there, I just cannot name them off hand. The only other advice I can give, is to not eat pork. Pork is high in arachidonic acid, which is the precursor to pain in the body. My best to you, Sarah , Eandrew T <eandrewt2000 wrote: > > Wondering if anyone has some natural cures/relief for sore joints in my fingers and hip. I have been taking Glucosamine/Chrondroitin/MSM for a long time without much help. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 I have been doing this for years. I use it simply because it has the same properitys as muscle rub. And also it stops hemhooroids quick! Kandy --- artemisa mugica <atmmu wrote: > > Hi: I have been using simple " Vicks " to massage on > the joints to relieve the > soreness on my fingers, elbows, shoulders or neck, > or any other part of my > body, even when I fell, I massage with vicks, next > day no bruise or > inflammation not even pain. Also, for the Sciatica > pain and cause of trouble > to move around, it works; I live in Canada for > along 10 years, Scientists > have discovered that vicks can cure arthritis,when > is not severe. Still can > give some relieve for the swallowing and pain. If > desired, check the > Eucalyptus Properties on the INTERNET. > > hope you find this useful, Tammy > > > " TCMdirectory.com " <elieg1969 > > > > > > Re: arthritis > >Thu, 08 Mar 2007 01:34:05 -0000 > > > >There is one theory that by staying away from > " nightshade " vegetables, > >could help with arthritis symptoms. Particularly > tomatoes and > >potatoes. Check to see if your diet includes a lot > of these 2 foods, > >french fries, tomatoe sauce, pizza etc. and if so, > try staying away > >from them for 2 weeks to see if symptoms change. > Chinese herbal > >formulas also help with arthritis and you can get > some here > >http://www.holisticchineseherbs.com > >Also acupuncture is VERY helpful for arthritis. > Find a local > >acupuncturist or we can help you find a qualified > one. > > > >http://www.TCMdirectory.com > > > > , Eandrew > T > ><eandrewt2000 wrote: > > > > > > Wondering if anyone has some natural > cures/relief for sore joints in > >my fingers and hip. I have been taking > Glucosamine/Chrondroitin/MSM > >for a long time without much help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go > > > with Mail for Mobile. Get started. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > _______________ > FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get > it now! > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > > ______________________________\ ____ It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Toolbar. http://tools.search./toolbar/features/mail/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Scullcap! I have used it for sometime and the last time the dr did a blood test, I had no inflammation. I have had RA for 5 years, so this was a true miracle. I cap my own, but you can buy it at Wal Mart. Make sure you get the king that is pure scullcap in a gel cap so there are no binders. I believe it says to take 3 a day, I doubled up at first because it isn't as strong as what I make. Within 24 hours, you should notice a difference. Hope you're better soon. Kandy Lovan > Any suggestions on rheumatoid arthritis. The nodule on finger is twice > the > size and swollen and there is pain. Diet is good, have done cleansing. > Need > to find the cause, but in meantime, need to find some relief. > Thanks > DM > <!-- #ygrp-mkp{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:14px 0px;padding:0px 14px;} #ygrp-mkp hr{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #ygrp-mkp #hd{ color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:bold;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0px;} #ygrp-mkp #ads{ margin-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-mkp .ad{ padding:0 0;} #ygrp-mkp .ad a{ color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} --> <!-- #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{ font-family:Arial;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{ margin:10px 0px;font-weight:bold;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc ..ad{ margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} --> <!-- #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} #ygrp-text{ font-family:Georgia; } #ygrp-text p{ margin:0 0 1em 0;} #ygrp-tpmsgs{ font-family:Arial; clear:both;} #ygrp-vitnav{ padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;} #ygrp-vitnav a{ padding:0 1px;} #ygrp-actbar{ clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text-align:right;} #ygrp-actbar .left{ float:left;white-space:nowrap;} .bld{font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-grft{ font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;} #ygrp-ft{ font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666; padding:5px 0; } #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ padding-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-reco { margin-bottom:20px;padding:0px;} #ygrp-reco #reco-head { font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;} #reco-grpname{ font-weight:bold;margin-top:10px;} #reco-category{ font-size:77%;} #reco-desc{ font-size:77%;} #ygrp-vital{ background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} #ygrp-vital #vithd{ font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text-transform:upp\ ercase;} #ygrp-vital ul{ padding:0;margin:2px 0;} #ygrp-vital ul li{ list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee; } #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text-align:right;padding-ri\ ght:.5em;} #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-vital a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-vital a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ color:#999;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;} #ygrp-sponsor #nc{ background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ padding:8px 0;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font-size:100%;line-height:122%\ ;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ margin:0;} o{font-size:0;} .MsoNormal{ margin:0 0 0 0;} #ygrp-text tt{ font-size:120%;} blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;} .replbq{margin:4;} --> ______________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Hi Sarah, Your Mom is one brave woman, doing all the right diet things! I had a diet book written in the mid-seventies by an MD, trained in the West, but with roots in China. I gave it away but remember the gist of it. It was called " The arthritis diet cookbook " , and the premise was totally simple: try a diet consisting of rice, vegetables and fish. Nothing else. The doctor had been quite crippled up and cured himself and many others with this diet. He had remembered the diet from his early life in China. Mom could start with that till she improves, and then slowly add ingredients to her diet to see how she reacts. Or would that much fish be too much Mercury? This was written in the seventies after all. Maybe alter it to be rice, vegetables and some protein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 He should get tested for lyme disease. Just my 2 cents... Susan SiegelOn Jan 29, 2009, at 5:41 PM, Amber Boggs wrote:HI all, My husband has been having alot of pain in his rist from Arthritis, one doctor told him he will need a thumb joint replacement. We are just not willing to accept that fact. He also has Arthritis in his feet knees etc. Besides glocosamean what can he do to help this? Is there anything that can make the matter better? Or is it just proventing it from gettign werse at this point? Any and al advice would be grate. Poor man can hardly hold our baby.mber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 I am currently recovering from a thumb joint replacement--it is going VERY WELL. If you have an x-ray done you can see in the x-ray if the bone is diminished. In my x-ray it looked like my thumb was out in the middle of nowhere as half the bone was gone. According to the doctor there is nothing that can be done to prevent it from happening to the other hand as that bone is also disappearing. If anyone knows of a natural way to slow down the bone deterioration I would love to hear it. I had the surgery done along with carpal tunnel surgery on January 2nd. I am already grasping things that if I had done it at Christmas would have been whimpering in pain. So I am very pleased with the surgery--the expense is a whole other matter. Bottom line---check an x-ray. If bone loss, you have a problem and need to consider surgery. If bone is there and looks good, look else where for the cause. Jackie - Susan Siegel Thursday, January 29, 2009 5:47 PM Re: Arthritis He should get tested for lyme disease. Just my 2 cents... Susan Siegel On Jan 29, 2009, at 5:41 PM, Amber Boggs wrote: HI all, My husband has been having alot of pain in his rist from Arthritis, one doctor told him he will need a thumb joint replacement. We are just not willing to accept that fact. He also has Arthritis in his feet knees etc. Besides glocosamean what can he do to help this? Is there anything that can make the matter better? Or is it just proventing it from gettign werse at this point? Any and al advice would be grate Poor man can hardly hold our baby. mber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 WAS JUST TESTED FOR IT WHEN HE WAS SO SICK OVER THE SUMMER. It ende up being CMV, but this has been killing him for a long time - Susan Siegel Thursday, January 29, 2009 2:47 PM Re: Arthritis He should get tested for lyme disease. Just my 2 cents... Susan Siegel On Jan 29, 2009, at 5:41 PM, Amber Boggs wrote: HI all, My husband has been having alot of pain in his rist from Arthritis, one doctor told him he will need a thumb joint replacement. We are just not willing to accept that fact. He also has Arthritis in his feet knees etc. Besides glocosamean what can he do to help this? Is there anything that can make the matter better? Or is it just proventing it from gettign werse at this point? Any and al advice would be grate. Poor man can hardly hold our baby. mber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 Avoid calcium for six weeks and take a good quality (non-oxide) 200 mg, magnesium supplement at least every six hours. Take, 25,000 IU vitamin A (from fish oil) with 1000 IU vit D each day for six weeks. Check your Iodine levels by painting a 3 inch patch of iodine in a light but inconspicuous spot on your skin. The stain should remain 24 hours - if not you are iodine deficient and need to supplement iodine also/ This may indicate that you may have a condition similar to DuPuytren's contracture. Two to four caps of fish body oil and two to four caps of MSM per day will also help in addition to the Glucosamine/chondroitin you are already taking. This is a lot of STUFF but it is not a "forever" program. --- On Thu, 1/29/09, Amber Boggs <rubyrue wrote: Amber Boggs <rubyrue Arthritis Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 5:41 PM HI all, My husband has been having alot of pain in his rist from Arthritis, one doctor told him he will need a thumb joint replacement. We are just not willing to accept that fact. He also has Arthritis in his feet knees etc. Besides glocosamean what can he do to help this? Is there anything that can make the matter better? Or is it just proventing it from gettign werse at this point? Any and al advice would be grate. Poor man can hardly hold our baby. mber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 I addition to this I would soak a piece of cloth in mixture of 90%CS/10%DMSO or 80/20 and wrap it around the sore joint. or paint the sore joint with this mixture and let dry. Repeat a few times per day. At 09:30 AM 30/01/2009, you wrote: Avoid calcium for six weeks and take a good quality (non-oxide) 200 mg, magnesium supplement at least every six hours. Take, 25,000 IU vitamin A (from fish oil) with 1000 IU vit D each day for six weeks. Check your Iodine levels by painting a 3 inch patch of iodine in a light but inconspicuous spot on your skin. The stain should remain 24 hours - if not you are iodine deficient and need to supplement iodine also/ This may indicate that you may have a condition similar to DuPuytren's contracture. Two to four caps of fish body oil and two to four caps of MSM per day will also help in addition to the Glucosamine/chondroitin you are already taking. This is a lot of STUFF but it is not a " forever " program. --- On Thu, 1/29/09, Amber Boggs <rubyrue wrote: Amber Boggs <rubyrue Arthritis Thursday, January 29, 2009, 5:41 PM HI all, My husband has been having alot of pain in his rist from Arthritis, one doctor told him he will need a thumb joint replacement. We are just not willing to accept that fact. He also has Arthritis in his feet knees etc. Besides glocosamean what can he do to help this? Is there anything that can make the matter better? Or is it just proventing it from gettign werse at this point? Any and al advice would be grate. Poor man can hardly hold our baby. mber avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090129-0, 29/01/2009 Tested on: 30/01/2009 9:33:52 AM avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090129-0, 29/01/2009Tested on: 30/01/2009 9:39:36 AMavast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 Try CMO. Cetyl Myristoleate. You can buy it at www.beyondacenturyonline.com for $12 for the powder form which should be enough. Follow the directions. I mix it with cottage cheese to get it down. I had ring-finger stiffness on both hands so I couldn't bend the fingers at all, but less than a week of this stuff and I'm healed. The fingers bend just fine now. Hugh Amber Boggs <rubyrue Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 2:41:12 PM Arthritis HI all, My husband has been having alot of pain in his rist from Arthritis, one doctor told him he will need a thumb joint replacement. We are just not willing to accept that fact. He also has Arthritis in his feet knees etc. Besides glocosamean what can he do to help this? Is there anything that can make the matter better? Or is it just proventing it from gettign werse at this point? Any and al advice would be grate. Poor man can hardly hold our baby. mber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 Prolotherapy cures chronic pain. I've had it in my knees and the pain was gone instantly. Check out www.caringmedical.com Dr. Hauser is in Illinois. All my best, Betty At 05:41 PM 1/29/2009, Amber Boggs wrote: >HI all, My husband has been having alot of pain >in his rist from Arthritis, one doctor told him >he will need a thumb joint replacement. We are >just not willing to accept that fact. He also >has Arthritis in his feet knees etc. Besides >glocosamean what can he do to help this? Is >there anything that can make the matter better? >Or is it just proventing it from gettign werse at this point? > Any and al advice would be grate. Poor man can hardly hold our baby. >mber > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 CRP Study by Dr. Vaughn Johnson Here is the summary of the incredible presentation that Dr. Vaughn Johnson recently did in Seattle. He conducted an informal study in his office with 47 patients to see whether their C-Reactive Protein (hs-CRP) numbers would be affected by introducing the Original Mangosteen Juice to their diets. CRP measures the level of inflammation in the body. Inflammation is all over the news. In fact, there was a front page article on MSN a week ago about a large study that seemed to show that people who were taking aspirin actually lived longer. Of course aspirin is an anti-inflammatory but like most drugs has side effects. Many of you may also have seen the video from PBS a couple of weeks ago where they specifically discussed how this hs-CRP test was becoming a major marker for heart disease. For more information about the anti inflammatory properties of mangosteen juice please visit www.socaljuicebiz.com Dr Johnson Presentation of 4/3/07 Dr Johnson did a mini clinical trial on the effect of Original Mangosteen juice on a marker for systemic inflammation; Highly Sensitive C- Reactive Protein (hs-crp). A level of 1.0 to 3.0 is considered normal. Greater than 3.0 is considered high risk. Method: 1. Take blood samples from 47 patients. Determine hs-CRP Levels. 2. Administer 2 Oz of Original mangosteen juice once per day. 3. Continue for 30 days. 4. Take blood samples and measure hs-CRP again. Two ounces was selected as the dose so that two bottles would last one month. Results: All of the 38 patients who returned for the follow up test lowered their hs-CRP levels into the normal range. 9 patients did not return for their follow up test. The following table lists typical results. Sample # Initial W/O after 30 Days W/Original Mangosteen 1 55.0 2.7 2 26.0 1.3 3 12.6 1.8 4 8.4 2.2 5 6.8 1.1 Comments: The above five samples were selected for illustration purposes because after the completion of the test all of these individuals stopped taking Original Mangosteen and took other mangosteen based products instead. Other mangosteen products: All five returned to their initial high risk CRP levels after using the other mangosteen products. In fact, sample 2 increased to 28, i.e. two points above the initial value. Dr. Johnson then put each of these patients back on Original Mangosteen juice and all of the CRP numbers came back down. Dr. Johnson concluded that all mangosteen supplements are not created equal and that the whole fruit puree, Original Mangosteen formula produced the results he has witnessed due to the synergy of all of the Xanthones and other components working together. For more information about the anti inflammatory properties of mangosteen juice please visit www.socaljuicebiz.com From the desk of Charles HeydonCharles Heydon www.SoCalJuiceBiz.com 661-305-2737 1cor.10:31--- On Thu, 1/29/09, Amber Boggs <rubyrue wrote: Amber Boggs <rubyrue Arthritis Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 2:41 PM HI all, My husband has been having alot of pain in his rist from Arthritis, one doctor told him he will need a thumb joint replacement. We are just not willing to accept that fact. He also has Arthritis in his feet knees etc. Besides glocosamean what can he do to help this? Is there anything that can make the matter better? Or is it just proventing it from gettign werse at this point? Any and al advice would be grate. Poor man can hardly hold our baby. mber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 Mangostin Inhibits Inhibitor-B Kinase Activity and Decreases Lipopolysaccharide-Induced Cyclooxygenase-2 Gene Expression in C6 Rat Glioma Cells Keigo Nakatani,1 Tohru Yamakuni, Nobuhiko Kondo, Tsutomu Arakawa, Kenji Oosawa, Susumu Shimura, Hiroyasu Inoue, and Yasushi Ohizumi Department of Pharmaceutical Molecular Biology, Graduate School of Pharmaceutical Sciences, Tohoku University, Sendai, Japan (K.N., T.Y., N.K., Y.O.); Central Laboratory, Lotte Co., Ltd., Saitama, Japan (T.A., K.O., S.S.); and Department of Pharmacology, National Cardiovascular Center Research Institute, Osaka, Japan (H.I.) Received May 11, 2004; accepted June 18, 2004 ABSTRACT We investigated the effect of -mangostin purified from the fruit hull of the medicinal plant Garcinia mangostana on spontaneous prostaglandin E2 (PGE2) release and inducible cyclooxygenase 2 (COX-2) gene expression in C6 rat glioma cells. An 18-h treatment with -mangostin potently inhibited spontaneous PGE2 release in a concentration-dependent manner with the IC50 value of approximately 2 M, without affecting the cell viability even at 30 M. By immunoblotting and reverse-transcription polymerase chain reaction, we showed that -mangostin concentration-dependently inhibited lipopolysaccharide (LPS)-induced expression of COX-2 protein and its mRNA, but not those of constitutive COX-1 cyclooxygenase. Because LPS is known to stimulate inhibitor B (IB) kinase (IKK)-mediated phosphorylation of IB followed by its degradation, which in turn induces nuclear factor (NF)-B nuclear translocation leading to transcriptional activation of COX-2 gene, the effect of -mangostin on the IKK/IB cascade controlling the NF-B activation was examined. An in vitro IKK assay using IKK protein immunoprecipitated from C6 cell extract showed that this compound inhibited IKK activity in a concentration-dependent manner, with the IC50 value of approximately 10 M. Consistently -mangostin was also observed to decrease the LPSinduced IB degradation and phosphorylation in a concentration- dependent manner, as assayed by immunoblotting. Furthermore, luciferase reporter assays showed that -mangostin reduced the LPS-inducible activation of NF-B–and human COX-2 gene promoter region-dependent transcription. -Mangostin also inhibited rat carrageenan-induced paw edema. These results suggest that -mangostin directly inhibits IKK activity and thereby prevents COX-2 gene transcription, an NF-B target gene, probably to decrease the inflammatory agent-stimulated PGE2 production in vivo, and is a new useful lead compound for anti-inflammatory drug development. Prostaglandins (PGs), arachidonic acid (AA) metabolites of the cyclooxygenase (COX) pathway, are major mediators in the regulation of inflammation and immune function (Smith et al., 2000). In the brain, the prostaglandin E2 (PGE2) is the most abundant PG. PGE2 levels are very low or undetectable in normal conditions but can rise in response to inflammatory processes, multiple sclerosis, and AIDS-associated dementia (Fretland, 1992; Griffin et al., 1994). High levels of PGE2 can modulate the activities of multiple cell types, including neurons, glial, and endothelial cells, as well as microglia/macrophage and lymphocyte functions during inflammatory and immune processes (Weissmann, 1993). Astrocytes are a known important source of PGE2 in the CNS (Katsuura et al., 1989). Their ability to produce PGE2 upon stimulation with interleukin (IL)-1, tumor necrosis factor- (TNF-), or bacterial wall protein lipopolysaccharide (LPS) has been extensively documented (Fontana et al., 1982; Mollace et al., 1998; Molina-Holgado et al., 2000). Cyclooxygenase (COX) is well known to be responsible for PG production and the rate-limiting enzymes. This enzyme This work was partly supported by a Grant-in-Aid for Scientific Research from the Ministry of Education, Science, Sport and Culture of Japan. 1 Current address: Pfizer Global Research and Development, Nagoya Laboratories, Aichi, Japan. Article, publication date, and citation information can be found at http://molpharm.aspetjournals.org. doi:10.1124/mol.104.002626. ABBREVIATIONS: PG, prostaglandin; AA, arachidonic acid; COX, cyclooxygenase; COX-1, constitutive cyclooxygenase; COX-2, inducible cyclooxygenase; PGE2, prostaglandin E2; LPS, lipopolysaccharide; IB, inhibitor B; IKK, inhibitor B kinase; CNS, central nervous system; IL, interleukin; TNF-, tumor necrosis factor-; NF-B, nuclear factor-B; MTT, 3-(4,5-dimethylthiazol-2-yl)-2,5-diphenyltetrazolium; RT, reverse transcription; PCR, polymerase chain reaction; PAGE, polyacrylamide gel electrophoresis; ODS, octadecylsilyl; HPLC, high-performance liquid chromatography; DMSO, dimethyl sulfoxide; NS398, N-[2-(cyclohexyloxyl)-4-nitrophenyl]-methane sulfonamide.Charles Heydon www.SoCalJuiceBiz.com 661-305-2737 1cor.10:31--- On Thu, 1/29/09, Amber Boggs <rubyrue wrote: Amber Boggs <rubyrue Arthritis Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 2:41 PM HI all, My husband has been having alot of pain in his rist from Arthritis, one doctor told him he will need a thumb joint replacement. We are just not willing to accept that fact. He also has Arthritis in his feet knees etc. Besides glocosamean what can he do to help this? Is there anything that can make the matter better? Or is it just proventing it from gettign werse at this point? Any and al advice would be grate. Poor man can hardly hold our baby. mber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 Jackie Im glad that your thumb is getting better Its good to see you posting norma From Wall Street to Main Street and everywhere in between, stay up-to-date with the latest news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 Dear Amber, I second Tony's recommendations. The type of magnesium supplements we take are important, because some are more assimilable than others. As Tony says, avoid magnesium oxide if you're looking for an absorbable form of magnesium. From what I understand, magnesium malate and magnesium orotate are two of the better choices in terms of how well they are absorbed by the body. Check out this link for mag malate: http://www.vitacost.com/Source-Naturals-Magnesium-Malate-1250-mg-90-Tablets?csrc\ =GPF-021078002611 When considering which vitamin D to buy, remember that it's important to take D3, (cholecalciferol) not D2. D3 is the type of vitamin D our bodies make naturally from sunlight exposure. Getting a good dose of natural sunshine directly onto bare skin every day is the best way to get plenty of vitamin D3. But if this is not possible, be sure to take supplemental D3 rather than D2, as D3 is the more assimilable form of this nutrient. Carlson makes a high potency D3 in liquid form that supplies 2000 IU per drop: http://www.vitacost.com/Carlson-Vitamin-D-Drops It's also very important to get the highest quality marine based oil, rich in omega 3s, that you can find. Choose your product carefully, as there are a lot of inferior fish oils on the market. If you take a product and it makes you burp a fishy taste, chances are the oil in it has become rancid. This means that whatever O3s it may have once contained have most likely been oxidized and so destroyed, rendering that product essentially worthless in terms of its potential therapeutic effect. Another suggestion is to regularly include some kind of seaweed (like kelp, nori or dulse etc.) in your husband's diet. This will not only provide him with a natural source of iodine, but will also ensure that he's regularly getting a variety of trace minerals into his body. Consuming these trace minerals will help the other supplemental macro-nutrients he's taking work together more synergistically, which will better support his body in the healing process. Besides taking plenty of supplemental A, D3, magnesium, omega 3s and trace minerals, your husband might also find it very beneficial to regularly massage some magnesium oil into the skin around his joints wherever it's painful. Magnesium oil can be used directly on the skin either full strength or diluted, and can also be added to a bath for soaking the whole body. Some of the purest magnesium oil available can be purchased from LL's Magnetic Clay here: http://www.magneticclay.com/store/magnesium-oil-ancient-minerals-8.aspx And if you're not already, following the Weston A. Price Foundation's dietary guidelines may also be helpful: http://www.westonaprice.org/basicnutrition/dietguidelines.html Elan (who has no affiliation or financial connection with any of the products or websites listed above. , Tony De Angelis <tntstuart wrote: > > Avoid calcium for six weeks and take a good quality (non-oxide) 200 mg, magnesium supplement at least every six hours. > > Take, 25,000 IU vitamin A (from fish oil) with 1000 IU vit D each day for six weeks. > > Check your Iodine levels by painting a 3 inch patch of iodine in a light but inconspicuous spot on your skin. The stain should remain 24 hours - if not you are iodine deficient and need to supplement iodine also/ This may indicate that you may have a condition similar to DuPuytren's contracture. > > Two to four caps of fish body oil and two to four caps of MSM per day will also help in addition to the Glucosamine/chondroitin you are already taking. > > This is a lot of STUFF but it is not a " forever " program. > > --- On Thu, 1/29/09, Amber Boggs <rubyrue wrote: > > > Amber Boggs <rubyrue > Arthritis > > Thursday, January 29, 2009, 5:41 PM > HI all, My husband has been having alot of pain in his rist from Arthritis, one doctor told him he will need a thumb joint replacement. We are just not willing to accept that fact. He also has Arthritis in his feet knees etc. Besides glocosamean what can he do to help this? Is there anything that can make the matter better? Or is it just proventing it from gettign werse at this point? > Any and al advice would be grate. Poor man can hardly hold our baby. > mber > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 Excuse me, but isn't this poster's email a blatant product advertisement promoting his own business? Aren't such posts only permitted on the first of every month? Elan , Charles Heydon <cheydon wrote: > For more information about the anti inflammatory properties of mangosteen juice please > visit www.socaljuicebiz.com > > From the desk of Charles Heydon > > Charles Heydon > www.SoCalJuiceBiz.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 , " Amber Boggs " <rubyrue wrote: > > HI all, My husband has been having alot of pain in his rist from Arthritis, one doctor told him he will need a thumb joint replacement. We are just not willing to accept that fact. He also has Arthritis in his feet knees etc. Besides glocosamean what can he do to help this? Is there anything that can make the matter better? Or is it just proventing it from gettign werse at this point? > Any and al advice would be grate. Poor man can hardly hold our baby. > mber > CRP Study by Dr. Vaughn Johnson Here is the summary of the incredible presentation that Dr. Vaughn Johnson recently did in Seattle. He conducted an informal study in his office with 47 patients to see whether their C-Reactive Protein (hs-CRP) numbers would be affected by introducing the Original Mangosteen Juice to their diets. CRP measures the level of inflammation in the body. Inflammation is all over the news. In fact, there was a front page article on MSN a week ago about a large study that seemed to show that people who were taking aspirin actually lived longer. Of course aspirin is an anti-inflammatory but like most drugs has side effects. Many of you may also have seen the video from PBS a couple of weeks ago where they specifically discussed how this hs-CRP test was becoming a major marker for heart disease. For more information about the anti inflammatory properties of mangosteen juice please visit www.socaljuicebiz.com Dr Johnson Presentation of 4/3/07 Dr Johnson did a mini clinical trial on the effect of Original Mangosteen juice on a marker for systemic inflammation; Highly Sensitive C- Reactive Protein (hs-crp). A level of 1.0 to 3.0 is considered normal. Greater than 3.0 is considered high risk. Method: 1. Take blood samples from 47 patients. Determine hs-CRP Levels. 2. Administer 2 Oz of Original mangosteen juice once per day. 3. Continue for 30 days. 4. Take blood samples and measure hs-CRP again. Two ounces was selected as the dose so that two bottles would last one month. Results: All of the 38 patients who returned for the follow up test lowered their hs-CRP levels into the normal range. 9 patients did not return for their follow up test. The following table lists typical results. Sample # Initial W/O after 30 Days W/Original Mangosteen 1 55.0 2.7 2 26.0 1.3 3 12.6 1.8 4 8.4 2.2 5 6.8 1.1 Comments: The above five samples were selected for illustration purposes because after the completion of the test all of these individuals stopped taking Original Mangosteen and took other mangosteen based products instead. Other mangosteen products: All five returned to their initial high risk CRP levels after using the other mangosteen products. In fact, sample 2 increased to 28, i.e. two points above the initial value. Dr. Johnson then put each of these patients back on Original Mangosteen juice and all of the CRP numbers came back down. Dr. Johnson concluded that all mangosteen supplements are not created equal and that the whole fruit puree, Original Mangosteen formula produced the results he has witnessed due to the synergy of all of the Xanthones and other components working together. For more information about the anti inflammatory properties of mangosteen juice please visit www.socaljuicebiz.com From the desk of Charles Heydon Charles Heydon www.SoCalJuiceBiz.com 661-305-2737 1cor.10:31 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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