Guest guest Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Hi, sorry to hear you also have arthritis not much fun. Just thought I would let you know I get web doctor on internet and they had a good article saying that glucosamin-chondroitin, msm does not do the job! So i quit taking it and think they are right as I feel no different. Just thought I would let you know. So you can come to your own conclusion. If you hear about anything to help with arthritis please let me know, as I try just about anything. Thanks LouiseDonna Gros <eddonna wrote: I usually don't post and do a lot of reading and filling info since I have joined the goup, but this is so intereting since I have arthritis since I have been in my early 30's and now almost 60. I have done many things including working out/ watching my weight and food that I eat, and taking herbs including Glucosamine-Chondroitin and MSM for several years now. My questions is: who does have a proven combonation that has helped them in them and how much do you take daily of the herbs, and in what form do you take. Any help will sure help me a lot since this is something I have been dealing with over the past years and would love to find something that really does help. Thanks for anyone that can help. desperate in Pa. Have a great weekend!! Donna There are many ways to approach osteoarthritis and what works for one may not work for another. For yrs the I believe that Glucosamine-Chondroitin and MSM have been used. I read recently about Selenium being very good and Devils Claw is good for joints. Other things used are Yucca, Boswellia and Bromelain. I think you have to come up with the combo that works for you Patt "You can lead a man to knowledge,but you can't make him think " Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Dear Donna et al, Sorry I don't have the time to get into this in any way at this exact time, but it has been covered in great detail in earlier comm. A search of past posts by me on this subject will give you more data than you can imagine. The solution for handling Arthritis terminatedly is the "Body Balance + Formula" in the files. Where Calcium loss is indicated (and it ususally is), a person should also take the Lemon Egg Formula which is the best ORGANIC Calcium / Magnesium / Silicon supplement I know of. Forget the Medico stuff. The Body Balance + WORKS!!! So does the Lemon Egg Recipe (again - in the Files). In Health and Love, Doc Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc - Donna Gros herbal remedies Saturday, May 27, 2006 5:37 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: Arthritis I usually don't post and do a lot of reading and filling info since I have joined the goup, but this is so intereting since I have arthritis since I have been in my early 30's and now almost 60. I have done many things including working out/ watching my weight and food that I eat, and taking herbs including Glucosamine-Chondroitin and MSM for several years now. My questions is: who does have a proven combonation that has helped them in them and how much do you take daily of the herbs, and in what form do you take. Any help will sure help me a lot since this is something I have been dealing with over the past years and would love to find something that really does help. Thanks for anyone that can help. desperate in Pa. Have a great weekend!! Donna There are many ways to approach osteoarthritis and what works for one may not work for another. For yrs the I believe that Glucosamine-Chondroitin and MSM have been used. I read recently about Selenium being very good and Devils Claw is good for joints. Other things used are Yucca, Boswellia and Bromelain. I think you have to come up with the combo that works for you Patt "You can lead a man to knowledge,but you can't make him think " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 Hi A lot of people end up with artiritis if they have been lacking in essential fatty acids. What is worse is many have been adding to the damage by eating hygrogenated fats / transfatty acids. So take a look at your diet. Stop eating margerine all together pls.This is an ancient remedy for arthiritis from Nepal... take a teaspoon of ginger power with castor oil every night. But like any complementary medicine you will need to give it time...6 months at least for noticeable results.warmlyBegum (Ms)Louise <magoo5396 wrote: Hi, sorry to hear you also have arthritis not much fun. Just thought I would let you know I get web doctor on internet and they had a good article saying that glucosamin-chondroitin, msm does not do the job! So i quit taking it and think they are right as I feel no different. Just thought I would let you know. So you can come to your own conclusion. If you hear about anything to help with arthritis please let me know, as I try just about anything. Thanks LouiseDonna Gros <eddonna wrote: I usually don't post and do a lot of reading and filling info since I have joined the goup, but this is so intereting since I have arthritis since I have been in my early 30's and now almost 60. I have done many things including working out/ watching my weight and food that I eat, and taking herbs including Glucosamine-Chondroitin and MSM for several years now. My questions is: who does have a proven combonation that has helped them in them and how much do you take daily of the herbs, and in what form do you take. Any help will sure help me a lot since this is something I have been dealing with over the past years and would love to find something that really does help. Thanks for anyone that can help. desperate in Pa. Have a great weekend!! Donna There are many ways to approach osteoarthritis and what works for one may not work for another. For yrs the I believe that Glucosamine-Chondroitin and MSM have been used. I read recently about Selenium being very good and Devils Claw is good for joints. Other things used are Yucca, Boswellia and Bromelain. I think you have to come up with the combo that works for you Patt "You can lead a man to knowledge,but you can't make him think " Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to prescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian Shillington Doctor of Naturopathy Dr.IanShillington Be a chatter box. Enjoy free PC-to-PC calls with Messenger with Voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 I have been treating mine with a teaspoon of cinnmon & raw honey (to taste) mixed with hot pure water, morning & evening. I've noticed when I don't do this the pain is worse. Radiating UNCONDITIONAL LOVE & Truth To ALL who share our circle †" our universe, our love, our trust. May I always be found worthy. Gratitude & Thankfulness to All of Us a SoaringHawk Look at everything as though you were seeing it either for the first or last time. Then your time on earth will be filled with joy & glory. Thank you for YOU! herbal remedies , Begum Ibrahim <begumibrahim wrote: > > Hi > A lot of people end up with artiritis if they have been lacking in essential fatty acids. What is worse is many have been adding to the damage by eating hygrogenated fats / transfatty acids. So take a look at your diet. Stop eating margerine all together pls. > > This is an ancient remedy for arthiritis from Nepal... > take a teaspoon of ginger power with castor oil every night. But like any complementary medicine you will need to give it time...6 months at least for noticeable results. > > warmly > > Begum (Ms) > > Louise <magoo5396 wrote: Hi, sorry to hear you also have arthritis not much fun. Just thought I would let you know I get web doctor on internet and they had a good article saying that glucosamin-chondroitin, msm does not do the job! So i quit taking it and think they are right as I feel no different. Just thought I would let you know. So you can come to your own conclusion. If you hear about anything to help with arthritis please let me know, as I try just about anything. Thanks Louise > > Donna Gros <eddonna wrote: I usually don't post and do a lot of reading and filling info since I have joined the goup, but this is so intereting since I have arthritis since I have been in my early 30's and now almost 60. I have done many things including working out/ watching my weight and food that I eat, and taking herbs including Glucosamine-Chondroitin and MSM for several years now. My questions is: who does have a proven combonation that has helped them in them and how much do you take daily of the herbs, and in what form do you take. Any help will sure help me a lot since this is something I have been dealing with over the past years and would love to find something that really does help. Thanks for anyone that can help. desperate in Pa. > Have a great weekend!! Donna > There are many ways to approach osteoarthritis and what works for one may not work for another. > For yrs the I believe that Glucosamine-Chondroitin and MSM have been used. > I read recently about Selenium being very good and Devils Claw is good for joints. > Other things used are Yucca, Boswellia and Bromelain. > I think you have to come up with the combo that works for you > Patt > " You can lead a man to knowledge, > but you can't make him think " > > > > > > Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 Hi Kathleen where can you buy this stuff???? Thanks LouiseKathleen <ahealingplace wrote: THIS STUFF IS AWESOME! I wouldn't be without it in my cabinet.herbal remedies , "olm" wrote:>> yes i and some firneds have had good luck w a chinese topical solution > called..get this...zheng gu shui.......it is dirt cheap and i had a friend > who is a hedge fund mgr..so he is real well heeled and his wife has > artritic knees and she tried it and she swears by it...she told me tht it > was the first time her knees didnt hurt in like 15 years.....wht else can i > say..> olm> > > - > "Louise" > > Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:28 PM> Herbal Remedies - Arthritis> > > > Hi I have ostoarthristis in both my knees and the right one is worse> > than the left any one know of any remedy that I might try. Thanks> > Louise> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:> > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.> > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural > > remedy.> > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and > > to> > prescribe for your own health.> > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long > > as> > they behave themselves.> > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any > > person> > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.> > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from > > list members, you are agreeing to> > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and > > members free of any liability.> >> > Dr. Ian Shillington> > Doctor of Naturopathy> > Dr.IanShillington > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 My name is Anna and I read Nutritional Posts and comment as a way to help myself and others. I had just been reading some info on *Castor- Oil Packs* where you soak cloths in Castor-Oil and apply to area. I understand that *Castor-Oil packs* help reduce " water-retention. " A herbal remedies , Begum Ibrahim <begumibrahim wrote: > > Hi > A lot of people end up with artiritis if they have been lacking in essential fatty acids. What is worse is many have been adding to the damage by eating hygrogenated fats / transfatty acids. So take a look at your diet. Stop eating margerine all together pls. > > This is an ancient remedy for arthiritis from Nepal... > take a teaspoon of ginger power with castor oil every night. But like any complementary medicine you will need to give it time...6 months at least for noticeable results. > > warmly > > Begum (Ms) > > Louise <magoo5396 wrote: Hi, sorry to hear you also have arthritis not much fun. Just thought I would let you know I get web doctor on internet and they had a good article saying that glucosamin-chondroitin, msm does not do the job! So i quit taking it and think they are right as I feel no different. Just thought I would let you know. So you can come to your own conclusion. If you hear about anything to help with arthritis please let me know, as I try just about anything. Thanks Louise > > Donna Gros <eddonna wrote: I usually don't post and do a lot of reading and filling info since I have joined the goup, but this is so intereting since I have arthritis since I have been in my early 30's and now almost 60. I have done many things including working out/ watching my weight and food that I eat, and taking herbs including Glucosamine-Chondroitin and MSM for several years now. My questions is: who does have a proven combonation that has helped them in them and how much do you take daily of the herbs, and in what form do you take. Any help will sure help me a lot since this is something I have been dealing with over the past years and would love to find something that really does help. Thanks for anyone that can help. desperate in Pa. > Have a great weekend!! Donna > There are many ways to approach osteoarthritis and what works for one may not work for another. > For yrs the I believe that Glucosamine-Chondroitin and MSM have been used. > I read recently about Selenium being very good and Devils Claw is good for joints. > Other things used are Yucca, Boswellia and Bromelain. > I think you have to come up with the combo that works for you > Patt > " You can lead a man to knowledge, > but you can't make him think " > > > > > > Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 Again! Good old ACV is the ticket here. 2 Tablespoons a day, and in 3 days your symptoms will be gone. Switch over to drinking distilled water and this will also help. Love, Doc Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc - Pauline herbal remedies Saturday, July 08, 2006 3:47 AM Herbal Remedies - arthritis I have arthritis in my neck. Can you suggest something. pauline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 mental block here : ACV ??? MARANATHA ! gabriele gcliburn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 what is acv? i looked on the site; but was lost...sorry.. thanks, judy"Dr. Ian Shillington" <DocShillington wrote: Again! Good old ACV is the ticket here. 2 Tablespoons a day, and in 3 days your symptoms will be gone. Switch over to drinking distilled water and this will also help. Love, Doc Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc - Pauline herbal remedies Saturday, July 08, 2006 3:47 AM Herbal Remedies - arthritis I have arthritis in my neck. Can you suggest something. pauline How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 I also have chronic Fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia. will this make that worse? and can you recomment anything for that. Have alot of weakness. Thanks, Pauline -- In herbal remedies , " Dr. Ian Shillington " <DocShillington wrote: > > Again! Good old ACV is the ticket here. > 2 Tablespoons a day, and in 3 days your symptoms will be gone. > Switch over to drinking distilled water and this will also help. > Love, > Doc > > Doc Shillington > 727-447-5282 > Doc > - > Pauline > herbal remedies > Saturday, July 08, 2006 3:47 AM > Herbal Remedies - arthritis > > > I have arthritis in my neck. Can you suggest something. pauline > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 What is ACV. Thanks Blue herbal remedies , " Dr. Ian Shillington " <DocShillington wrote: > > Again! Good old ACV is the ticket here. > 2 Tablespoons a day, and in 3 days your symptoms will be gone. > Switch over to drinking distilled water and this will also help. > Love, > Doc > > Doc Shillington > 727-447-5282 > Doc > - > Pauline > herbal remedies > Saturday, July 08, 2006 3:47 AM > Herbal Remedies - arthritis > > > I have arthritis in my neck. Can you suggest something. pauline > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 Dear Pauline, It will not make it worse, and will help. You are a candidate for The Incurables Program. In Health, Freedom, and Love, Doc Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc - Pauline herbal remedies Saturday, July 08, 2006 9:42 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - arthritis I also have chronic Fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia. will this makethat worse? and can you recomment anything for that. Have alot ofweakness. Thanks, Pauline-- In herbal remedies , "Dr. Ian Shillington"<DocShillington wrote:>> Again! Good old ACV is the ticket here.> 2 Tablespoons a day, and in 3 days your symptoms will be gone.> Switch over to drinking distilled water and this will also help.> Love,> Doc> > Doc Shillington> 727-447-5282> Doc - > Pauline > herbal remedies > Saturday, July 08, 2006 3:47 AM> Herbal Remedies - arthritis> > > I have arthritis in my neck. Can you suggest something. pauline> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 What is the Incurables Program? Pauline Original Message: ----------------- Dr. Ian Shillington DocShillington Mon, 10 Jul 2006 14:30:09 -0400 herbal remedies Re: Herbal Remedies - arthritis Dear Pauline, It will not make it worse, and will help. You are a candidate for The Incurables Program. In Health, Freedom, and Love, Doc Doc Shillington 727-447-5282 Doc - Pauline herbal remedies Saturday, July 08, 2006 9:42 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - arthritis I also have chronic Fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia. will this make that worse? and can you recomment anything for that. Have alot of weakness. Thanks, Pauline -- In herbal remedies , " Dr. Ian Shillington " <DocShillington wrote: > > Again! Good old ACV is the ticket here. > 2 Tablespoons a day, and in 3 days your symptoms will be gone. > Switch over to drinking distilled water and this will also help. > Love, > Doc > > Doc Shillington > 727-447-5282 > Doc > - > Pauline > herbal remedies > Saturday, July 08, 2006 3:47 AM > Herbal Remedies - arthritis > > > I have arthritis in my neck. Can you suggest something. pauline > -- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Dear Pauline, I've sent the entire regimen as a separate post. Love, Doc Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc - pshreiman herbal remedies Monday, July 10, 2006 3:36 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - arthritis What is the Incurables Program? PaulineOriginal Message:-----------------Dr. Ian Shillington DocShillington (AT) Knology (DOT) netDate: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 14:30:09 -0400herbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - arthritisDear Pauline,It will not make it worse, and will help.You are a candidate for The Incurables Program.In Health, Freedom, and Love,DocDoc Shillington727-447-5282Doc (AT) AcademyOfNaturalHealing (DOT) com- Pauline herbal remedies Saturday, July 08, 2006 9:42 PMRe: Herbal Remedies - arthritisI also have chronic Fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia. will this makethat worse? and can you recomment anything for that. Have alot ofweakness. Thanks, Pauline-- In herbal remedies , "Dr. Ian Shillington"<DocShillington wrote:>> Again! Good old ACV is the ticket here.> 2 Tablespoons a day, and in 3 days your symptoms will be gone.> Switch over to drinking distilled water and this will also help.> Love,> Doc> > Doc Shillington> 727-447-5282> Doc - > Pauline > herbal remedies > Saturday, July 08, 2006 3:47 AM> Herbal Remedies - arthritis> > > I have arthritis in my neck. Can you suggest something. pauline>-------------------------mail2web - Check your email from the web athttp://mail2web.com/ . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 You will get plenty of answers from the group, I know, and some great advice. Here's mine--cheap, simple and it works. I just posted this to another group I'm on so will repost it here for you. Good luck. Samala Renee I'm so impressed that I wanted to pass It on. It will seem kind of silly, and so simple, that you will think it Won't work, or that I'm just being crazy. I may be crazy, but truly--give This a try. I belong to a group that is experimenting with these simple coils. It's Been around for a long time and is a scientifically proven thing though it Didn't get much interested in the " normal " outlets because it IS so simple. I can supply links if anyone wants to read more about its background. It's called a Lakhovsky coil (just google that and you can read all about It). It's simply a piece of 10 or 12 gauge coated copper wire (like for Wiring your house) that goes around your waist and overlaps the ends. The Ends MUST be overlapped next to each other, NOT a closed circle. So many People were having great success wearing this coil for arthritis, joint pain Etc that I thought I'd give it a try. I'm a sucker for cheap experiments! Lol Anyway, I don't have any arthritis, or joint pain, but just thought I'd Try it out. I made it and put it on just before I went to bed last Friday Night. Wore it all night, all day sat, all night sat night and all day Sunday. Sunday evening I was thinking about the coil when I suddenly Realized that I had NO PAIN!!! Now, I don't have anything I normally call Pain, but I DO carry all my tension in my upper back and shoulders. It Makes for very tight muscles all the time, 24 hours a day, and I've become So use to it over the years that I don't really call it pain. Just Tension--and I normally beg or finagle a back rub out of my husband every night to Loosen the muscles up. I was thinking of asking him if he had time for the rub when I suddenly realized that all my shoulder and upper back muscles Were already relaxed!!! And thinking about it, they had been that way all Day long. This relaxed state has continued all the way through right now, As I write this. So, even though I wasn't wearing the coil for that reason, I still got an Experience out of it. I reported to the group about my results and was told That because of the energy that the coil sends out, it's best to not wear it 24/7 as I have been, because once the body gets balanced it will start Disrupting sleep patterns. I have noticed that I am waking up earlier than Normal, but I feel totally rested. Some people report crazy dreams when They wear the coil at night, so most people just wear it during the day. I found my wire at the local hardware store. I bought 10 gauge--and the Bloody thing is encased in PINK plastic. Yuck I hate pink. But, that's What it came in, and I wear it under my clothes so no one but me sees it. Some people do use bare copper wire but then it must be cleaned every night, And can turn the skin green. The coated wire eliminates that problem yet Still gives the same energy pattern as the uncoated. Right now, I'm just Taping the wires to keep the coil closed. Some people are using twist ties, Some people have gotten some sort of car engine tubing that they glue on and Slide the end of the wire through it. One person even has made a tube of Material that she threads the wire through, then wraps the material around Her waist like a belt and ties that. The whole trick, whatever you use to Secure it, needs to be that the ends overlap each other, lying next to each Other, and not make a closed circle. That's why it's called a coil. The Over lap can be just a few inches. I bought the coated wire for 35 cents a Foot, and bought 10 feet so it only cost me $3.50. I made mine, and one for Each of the 3 dogs, and have enough left for the cats. So, just thought I'd pass on this simple but powerful pain relief method. Remember--this isn't a magic cure-all. Like a lady In that group says (who, by the way, has been wearing a coil for 20 Years!!!) if you have a toothache, it won't cure the tooth. You will still Have to go in and have the tooth taken care of. But for many, many types of Pain--this can just take the pain away, especially arthritis. ---- HELP my aches in my hands, fingers annd it feels like tendons in hand Are short. Very painfull!! Any ideas to help with PAIN ********************************************* Peacefulmind.Com Sponsors Alternative Answers- HEALING NATURALLY- Learn preventative and curative measure to take for many ailments at: http://WWW.peacefulmind.Com/ailments.htm __________ -To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing community, copy and paste this address in an email to them: http://health.groups..Com/subs_invite _________ To ADD A LINK, RESOURCE, OR WEBSITE to Alternative Answers please Go to: http://health.groups..Com/links ___________ Post message: (AT) (DOT) Com Subscribe: - (AT) (DOT) Com Un: - (AT) (DOT) Com List owner: -owner (AT) (DOT) Com _______ Shortcut URL to this page: http://health.groups..Com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Seabuckthorn Seed Oil sarisalsa <sarisalsa wrote: HELP my aches in my hands, fingers annd it feels like tendons in hand are short. very painfull!! any ideas to help with PAIN ********************************************* Peacefulmind.com Sponsors Alternative Answers- HEALING NATURALLY- Learn preventative and curative measure to take for many ailments at: http://www.peacefulmind.com/ailments.htm __________ -To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing community, copy and paste this address in an email to them: http://health./subs_invite _________ To ADD A LINK, RESOURCE, OR WEBSITE to Alternative Answers please Go to: http://health./links ___________ Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner _______ Shortcut URL to this page: http://health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 1. Homeopathic Arnica or Rhus Tox 2. Massage 3. Warm baths/detox bath On Behalf Of sarisalsa Tuesday, October 10, 2006 8:24 PM arthritis HELP my aches in my hands, fingers annd it feels like tendons in hand are short. very painfull!! any ideas to help with PAIN ********************************************* Peacefulmind.com Sponsors Alternative Answers- HEALING NATURALLY- Learn preventative and curative measure to take for many ailments at: http://www.peacefulmind.com/ailments.htm __________ -To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing community, copy and paste this address in an email to them: http://health./subs_invite _________ To ADD A LINK, RESOURCE, OR WEBSITE to Alternative Answers please Go to: http://health./links ___________ Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner _______ Shortcut URL to this page: http://health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 , " sarisalsa " <sarisalsa wrote: > > HELP my aches in my hands, fingers annd it feels like tendons in hand > are short. very painfull!! any ideas to help with PAIN read on Arthritis and joint care There are about 150 different types of arthritis recognised by rheumatologists for the term is used to cover a wide range of illnesses covering the muscular skeletal system. Basically however arthritis refers to inflammation of the joints the most common being osteoarthritis. Less common but far more disabling is rheumatoid arthritis, which is usually a more chronic disease. Usual methods of treatment involve aspirin which acts to suppress inflammation Cortisone that seems to be effective but extended use has shown side effects to the adrenal glands, which impairs the body to withstand stress. There is also a tendency for the symptoms to intensify when the cortisone is withdrawn. From the Edgar cayce perspective As a preventative measure Cayce said that one should have a peanut oil rub or massage once a week over the entire body, the peanut oil being used liberally, he said no one need fear arthritis. Causes Cayce describes the causes, which were limited to seven categories: poor assimilation, poor elimination, impaired circulation, glandular malfunction, karmic and psychological causes previous treatments, spinal sublaxations and injuries. According to cayce there was a pattern with improper eliminations in some people, which began with the production of excess stomach acid, a condition that sometimes came from suppressed anger and other stress related conditions. The excess acid tended to decrease the lymphatic system. Poor assimilation was also a factor, with some foods actually becoming poisonous due to their inability to be utilised properly. Constipation resulted.As a contributing factor circulation was mentioned in 40% of cases. In 8% of cases glandular misfunction was sited as the first cause and in 29% of the readings as a contributing factor. Karma was also mentioned as a cause as was the bearing of resentments, this was considered to be a major factor in the development of the disease. Previous treatments were also mentioned with one man being told that certain immunisation injections had disturbed his circulation resulting in an arthritic condition.Spinal misalignments and injuries were also noted as a first cause, most of the readings mentioned the coccyx or the lower portion of the spine as the source of the problems.Other contributing causes were diet,exercise,and mental attitude. Treatment 1. Foods to avoided were white flour and its products, white bread, pasta etc. fried foods, carbonated drinks, beer and hard liquor, [an occasional glass of red wine was OK] and white potatoes but the skins were OK. 2. Combinations of foods to be avoided were starches and sugar, coffee and tea with milk or cream and citrus fruits with cereals or dairy products. A typical diet placed emphasis on vegetables and fruits whole grains and light proteins.highly advised was a decrease in meats and starches with meat being completely excluded from the diet for a period of time .In severe cases a semi liquid diet was advised to avoid strain on the system. 3. Massage,was indicated in 63% of the readings and this was to be given usually after another treatment such as as Epsom salt baths or after a steam bath or the use of the wet cell device. Specific oils were advised to be used with the massage, which were equal parts of olive oil with peanut oil and tincture of myrrh. Prepared by heating a small amount of olive oil and then adding the myrrh. It was mentioned to use the oils freely and as much as the body could absorb. Other oils were lanolin, mineral oil, olio pine needles, sassafras oil, witch hazel, oil of wintergreen, cedarwood oil, mustard oil, kerosene and tincture of benzoin. Cayce said to heat the oil before use to aid absorbtion. Massage were to be given in a firm but gentle rotary motion not pinching the muscles but drawing the circulation by moving the hands smoothly over the skin. Special attention was to given to the neck and spine and to parts of the body where there was discomfort. The direction given for the massage was from the trunk to the extremities of the body. Frequency of massage varied but the most common was once weekly, once monthly and three times weekly. 4. Atomidine an edgar cayce product which can be got from the usa or in england was also recommended in 42% of cases but due to its high iodine content this was recommended in specific dosages and treatment cycles. Excessive iodine in the system could overstimulate the thyroid and result in harmful effects in the body. Never take atomidine when you are using thyroid medicine or other drugs as the drugs could react with each other and have undesirable effects. The most common dosage was one drop taken daily for five days followed by a five-day rest period then one-drop daily then rest for five days. Then resume the cycle.Daily dosages ranged from one to eight drops daily. It was recommended that atomidine was taken in half glass of water in the morning before eating. Frequently atomidine was coordinated with Epsom salt baths and massage with the baths being taken during the rest period and immediately following the atomidine sequence. 5. Improving the elimination process within the body,used in about 37% of cases the most frequent methods were castor oil packs, enemas, colonics, and eno salts. Body temperature water was to be used for the colonic which was to be followed by a rinse with an antiseptic such as Glyco thymoline one-tablespoon to a quart of water. Warm castor oil packs can be also applied over the abdominal area together with internal doses of olive oil. The packs were made by heating the oil and soaking the oil in woolen flannel- not boiling the oil but as hot as you could stand. The pack was then placed over say the stomach area or liver usualy with a plastic bag over the top to prevent soiling the lot can be strapped into place and then heated or kept warm. Castor oil is also used on any arthritic, rheumatic, or muscular and joint pain as unction. Basically an infra red lamp is placed 12-18 inches from the part to be massaged. Apply the castor oil on the painful area and let the lamp warm it and this will help the oil to penetrate the skin, this done for about 5-10 mins. Then keep rubbing with the fingers and hand until the oil is worked in. Keep putting more oil on and massaging continued for 10-60 mins. Massage was also very helpful, to be given usually after another treatment such as an Epsom salt bath. If the reaction to colonics and enemas was to severe, emphasis was placed on gentler methods such as Epsom salt baths, steam baths and a diet rich in laxative foods. Epsom salt baths were in a range of five pounds of Epsom salts to about 20 galls of water for a modern tub and 8-10 pounds for an old tub. Be in the tub for about 10-12 mins to start with and then work up to 20 mins. Further stimulation to the body could be given with using massage or rubbing the extremities of the body while in the bath. Temp of bath was to be as hot as possible up to the point of pain. Epsom salt packs can be also applied when needed over areas of extreme pain. The salts apparently act by drawing out toxins. you can also immerse any local part of the body in a smaller basin too with people who have arthritic hands or other parts of the body. also you can form a pack ,by dissolving say 1 pound of salts in a small basin or pot and as much water necessary to saturate a towel. apply as hot as possible over the area indicated and keep repeating the applications for 2-3 hrs .where possible use an infra red lamp or other means to keep the pack hot. Where there is crippling of the joints of the hands, pain of arthritis or inflammation of the tendons considerable relief can be found by using an Epsom salt bath and massage. Use a large quantity of the salts about 1 pound in the water though, not just a spoon full. Soak the affected area for about 5 mins and then massage the affected area under water, rotate the joints and soak again for another 5-10 mins. 6. Spinal manipulation such as osteopathy although chiropractic and neropathy were also recommended. Cayce claimed there was no better mechanical therapy as good as spinal manipulation .One could start at the base of the spine and sometimes at the top- cayce gave both methods, and you could also work from the outer portions of the body inwards. 7. Mental attitude was essential to healing; it had to be conducive to the healing. Positive thinking opened the body to the source of all healing- that which is spiritual and unitive in nature. Cayce said that only the self stood in the way of healing. 8. Persistence and consistency of the treatments was highly desirable. 9. Fume baths using a cabinet steam bath were also recommended. In 19% of readings, the baths were to relax the body and stimulate the perspiratory system so it could throw off toxins and waste through the skin. Various substances were to be added to the baths such as witch hazel, which was most frequent. Atomidine, pine oil, Epsom salts and a mixture of witch hazel and iodine, pine and wintergreen oil, or pine oil and tincture of benzoin. To avoid strain an ice bag or cold cloth could be placed on the head. In almost all cases massage was recommended after the sweat. 10. Electrotherapy was also mentioned, using the edgar cayce device known as the wet cell in the most severe cases. The impedance device was also used for 20 min in cycles of four at a time; meditation and devotional thoughts were advised during the treatment. The violet ray was used in conjunction with other treatments such as internal doses of chloride of gold and bromide of soda. These were to be taken just before the violet ray treatment and the ultraviolet light applied over the spine and lower limbs treatment time varied from 1.5 ¡V 30 min and daily ¡V once every 2 weeks. 11. Internal doses of gold and soda ¡V minute amounts of chloride of gold and bicarb of soda in half a glass of water. Although not specifically recommended by cayce spiritual healing has the capacity to be very beneficial in all illnesses- see other pages on this fascinating subject. From the Reilly health book which is essential reading to all those who are interested in getting and keeping well are the directions for the Epsom salt bath. Relief has been obtained to joints, pain of arthritis, of inflammation of the tendons by using Epsom salts and massage. A seamstress was sent to Reilly, using a Epsom salt hand bath and massage for two weeks she was able to close her hand something she had not been able to do two weeks before. The same treatment was applied with many musicians. Make a hot Epsom salt solution by adding one pound of salts to a basin or bowl. Soak the hand for about 5 mins and then massage the hand with the other hand under water, really work the fingers rotating the joints then soak again for another 5-10 mins. After about 20 mins of soaking take the hands out and massage with peanut oil all the way up the arms, the same procedure can be used with the feet. Epsom salt baths were also advised with amounts varying between 5-20 lbs of salts to the bath tub starting at 101degress and working up to 106-108, staying in the tub for 10-12 mins to start and then gradually increase to 20 mins. An ice bag over certain areas with help you bear the heat. This he found particularly good therapy for stiff joints muscular pain arthritis and rheumatism for increasing the metabolism and the work of the heart and relieving pain. Caution was needed with cardiovascular and high blood pressure cases. 11.One of the most important principles outlined by cayce and others where people are suffering from any condition is to do everything they can to help others in whatever capacity they can. Cayce frequently mentioned that this would bring faster results. This is a great ingredient in helping all people to transmute their own karma. See other pages on this particularly important treatment. 12 Using Egyptian oil,- an edgar cayce product One lady reported pains and growths are gone and arthritis did not come to her this year. Another reports that her knees were so swollen but after using the oil swelling went down, she uses the oil 2-3 times a week. This other lady reports that soaking in Epsom salts then applying the oil gave her the best results. Pain seems to ease immediately and use of the effected parts returns far more rapidly than ever before. The oil had also relieved paralysis, which some poor man had on his left side. Another lady in her 80s reports says the oil is the only thing, which keeps her arthritic knees. There is a lot more to the research covering arthritis including aspects of diet,glands,etc Rheumatoid Arthritis This is a chronic inflammatory condition; it may apparently begin at any time, the usual onset is between 20-40. The symptoms are joint swelling stiffness, warmth tenderness and pain; this can be very debilitating. Cayce gave 19 readings for eleven people with this condition with an age range of 22-72 yrs old. Causes 1. Glandular incordination mentioned in 7 cases and was a major factor .It was the lack of proper hormonal secretions which contributed to problems with the circulation, the blood and calcium levels and the proper absorption of minerals from food. 2. Improper eliminations which would lead to a build up of toxins within the body was sited in 6 cases 3. In four cases spinal misalignment especially in the lower spine which could interfere with the proper nerve impulses action. 4. Poor assimilations were mentioned as a contributing factor in three cases. Treatment 1.Ten people received dietary advice with the emphasis on alkaline reacting foods ¡V raw vegetables such as carrots, cabbage, watercress, celery and lettuce. Served in any combination for one meal a day. Leafy veg was recommended over the pod variety. Strongly advised were food sources, which contained specific minerals such as magnesium, silicon, sulphur and iodine. Avoid of red meats, fried foods, and starches. 2.Nine people were recommended massage with a combination of olive oil and peanut oil with the limbs joints and extremities receiving special attention. 3. Electrotherapy was mentioned in 7 cases where there was evidence of nerve deterioration, the wet cell was to be used to combat this.the violet ray and the radial appliance were also mentioned. 4, Hydrotherapy was mentioned in 5 cases and took the form of Epsom salt baths this was to relax the body and relieve pain. Four people were given instructions for internal doses of atomidine to improve glandular coordination. 5.Gold chloride was mentioned in 4 cases once by itself and with bromide or bicarbonate of soda. This was to help the nervous system. 6.To relieve pain in the joints cayce advised packs of Epsom salts and in two cases castor oil pack and one of glycothymoline. 7.Sedatives were mentioned in three cases in the form of aspirin, cobra venom [to be administered by a doctor versed in this field] and a capsule consisting of eucalyptus, rectified oil of turpentine and benzosal. 8.Kaldak tonic and stimulants for eliminations were also mentioned. 9.Adjustments to the entire spinal column were suggested in four cases. Although not specifically recommended by cayce spiritual/reiki healing has the capacity to be very beneficial in all illnesses- see other pages on this fascinating subject. 12 Spiritual healing, Reiki, find a good healer - but someone you feel an attunement with at a soul level otherwise you can have negative results making your situation worse. We are know witnessing one of the great turnings in our century where old healing practices are re-emerging such as Reiki healing, Colour healing, Seichim, Spiritual healing, Osteopathy, Massage and many others. Some of these are thousands of years old, Spiritual healing is one of those. It is exactly the same kind of energy used by Jesus in so many of his healings. Put simply Spiritual Healing, Reiki is the transference of certain energies through a channel which could be a person or an animal or even the planet, the wavelengths of this healing energy are well outside the limits of most scientific equipment but a lot of people can feel this energy . The energy in my experience has been very uplifting and beautiful which can touch and vastly influence parts of us such as the spirit or soul or our mental selves and our physical selves. It can bring a steadiness and balance and sense of well-being second to none .Its limits as to its use are in the realms of the infinite. A very simplistic analogy would be to liken it to a massive energy reservoir which can be tapped into by people and animals which act as the conduits of this energy and like wires of electricity some of which are bigger than others and so therefore big wires can transmit more energy than smaller wires. Bearing this point in mind the reader can soon appreciate that going to one healer can be vastly different than going to another as it is with so many things whether it be dentists, doctors, policeman or what have you. Spiritual Healing is natural healing energy, which is present in this universe. Spiritual healers work in many different ways to some it is the laying on of hands onto a person or animal, to others it can be sent through the power of thought. To be even in the presence of some healers can have a profound and beneficial effect on people and one wishes that there were more people giving off just as beautiful vibrations as these people were this world would truly transform it One of the most important principles outlined by cayce and others where people are suffering from any condition is to do everything they can to help others in whatever capacity they can. Cayce frequently mentioned that this would bring faster results. This is a great ingredient in helping all people to transmute their own karma. See other pages on this particularly important treatment. Some feedback My healing was major. I have been free of flare-ups for three years at this writing. Because of this level of healing, I know I would not change a thing about what I did! By adhering to Cayce's instructions as closely as possible, I hit on an effective combination of Atomidine, Epsom Salts, and Massage Oils. Though not easy, I consider the problems I encountered to be very minor compared with the benefits Castor Oil Packs & Ice as Needed Daily use of Castor Oil Packs has been shown to dissolve arthritic spurs, but I used them to treat local inflammation. Before consulting with Dr. McGarey, I kept serious inflammation flare-ups under control the same way I had been doing for ten years, with Castor Oil Packs. I also applied ice, sometimes alternating the two with severe flare-ups. Ice alone is sufficient for minor flare-ups. Only once did Cayce recommend Castor Oil Packs for treating arthritis, but they had been extremely helpful, so I continued with them. The worst flare-up I experienced as part of my recovery involved my right hip, much of my pelvic area and my lower back. The pain was excruciating with even the slightest movement, so I only got out of bed to crawl to the bathroom. I was unable to walk for four days. My doctor would very likely have treated me with cortisone shots if I had called him. Cayce says clearly that anti-inflammatory medications are not helpful, and in fact make things worse. I felt cortisone shots would prevent the flare-up from carrying out its corrective purpose. I was right. Day and night for a week, I alternated castor oil packs with ice, noting gradual improvement. The hip not only completely healed, it ceased to trouble me thereafter. The Edgar Cayce arthritis healing methods for me were a resounding success. After only 6 weeks, I noticed a greatly reduced need for toxic anti-inflammatory drugs, and soon eliminated them altogether. Within a few weeks of my conversation with Dr. McGarey, all major symptoms suddenly subsided. The general pain in my body and joints was virtually gone, as were the flare-ups and swelling. I felt deep release from pain and the aggressiveness of the illness, as if the arthritis had been stopped and could not return unless I went back to old habits. Edgar Cayce's remedies gave my body a life and vigor it had not known in more than a decade! I was continuing to heal when I foolishly allowed parts of the program to lapse. Had I followed the Cayce instruction of applying the full program persistently and consistently for a period of time well beyond the cessation of symptoms, I would today be in remission or completely cured. Nevertheless, three years later I remain in a much improved state of health, and completely free of the acute inflammation flare-ups by which I was literally crippled prior to the program. I fully credit Edgar Cayce's miraculous therapies for this dramatic and sustained improvement. Until I applied them seriously, I deteriorated. After I applied them, I improved rapidly. Edgar Cayce's genius gave me back my life. Fuller details can be found in Reba Ann karps book encyclopedia of healing ISBN 0446 30981-8 which gives lots of treatments on all manor of diseases. And the Edgar cayce handbook for health by Harold reilly and Ruth hagy brod Harold had 43 yrs working with the readings Isdn0-02601960- 4 Obtained from the cayce center ARE or the heritage store, Virginia beach Books and remedies can be obtained from Home Health Products to Request a Catalogue or place a Credit Card Order: 1-800-284-9123 The Heritage Store 314 Laskin Road Virginia Beach, VA 23451 To Request a Catalogue or place a Credit Card Order: 1-800-862-2923 For more information about the A.R.E., visit http://www.edgarcayce.org If you are a member of the A.R.E., you can purchase or borrow a set of Cayce's readings by calling 1-800-333-4499 USA Or the Edgar Cayce centre up in Durham 13 prospect terrace, new stanley, CO Durham, England DH9 7TR 01207 237696 ask for one of the circulating files on arthritis Research from the meridian institute Meridian Institute, 1853 Old Donation Parkway, Suite 1 Virginia Beach, VA 23454 (757) 496-6009 Ran by a team of doctors the meridian institute carried out a brief study on a few of the cayce treatments including Arthritis, a brief summary is here for fuller details please contact them or their website meridianinstitute.com/ Seven individuals participated in a 10-day live-in instructional/treatment program in November 1998, in which they were taught the elements of the Edgar Cayce therapies for arthritis. One person had rheumatoid arthritis, and six had osteoarthritis. Rheumatoid arthritis is characterized by inflammatory changes in the synovial membranes of the joints and the areas around the joints and by atrophy and rarification of the bones. In osteoarthritis there is generally no inflammation and no spreading or migratory type of joint involvement. Rather than a loss of calcium, there is a calcium build-up. The project explicitly did not require participants to change their current therapies or medications. The principal therapies included dietary changes, massage, Atomidine (an iodine supplement), and Epsom salts baths. The participants then returned home to continue these therapies for six months, submitting daily logs of compliance with the protocol. Arthritis symptoms were evaluated at the beginning of the program and after six months. Four of the seven people returned for the six- month follow-up in May 1999. One was unable to attend the April session, and returned in November. Another responded to a questionnaire by mail, and one person dropped out of the study. Of the six participants who submitted information, three had excellent compliance with the protocol. One felt ¡§much improved,¡¨ and two felt ¡§improved.¡¨ Other interesting feedback According to Reba Ann karps book DR Charles Lucas chief of endocrinology and metabolism at Harper grace hospitals Detroit has reported that a diet low in animal fats will ease rheumatoid arthritis pain.with some of his patients reporting that that pain and stiffness nearly disappeared and swelling in joints reduced remarkably. Further substantiating cayce is a study done by the Department of medicine at Wayne State University Detroit Michigan in that fat free diets have been found to produce complete remissions in six patients with rheumatoid arthritis. Bee venom was mentioned by cayce and in the UK experiments have isolated an anti-inflammatory agent within the venom. In the US it has also been found that injecting bee venom into the painful joints activates natural cortisone production in the bones thus relieving the pain of arthritis. Treatment of Arthritis with Rife machine About Royal Raymond Rife Royal Raymond Rife was an inventor and genius who won scientist of the year awards twice. He started looking for a cancer cure in 1920. By 1934 he cured 16 out of 16 (100% success) cancer patients in his clinic, every one within 3 months. What he invented first was a microscope that used prisms and various light types other than white and was so powerful he could watch viruses alive and experiment on them without destroying them in the process. In Australia, a serious placebo (sometimes called double blind) study was made to demonstrate the effectiveness of using audio frequency therapy in the treatment of arthritis using a prototype of the PET Rife-Crane unit. Behind this study is, amongst others, Geoff Baker (B.App. Sci) who spent years of his life and millions of dollars studying and perfecting his PET device. In order to achieve medical approval for the sale of the PET unit in Australia, this Placebo study was made under scientifically controlled circumstances. The Study results suggest that „h Audio Frequency Therapy is highly effective in the treatment of Osteo and Rheumatoid Arthritis. After 36 three-hour treatment sessions of Audio Frequency Therapy, the net mean overall improvement in the arthritic condition of treated volunteers (irrespective of type of arthritis suffered) was approximately 25 percent „h Continued reduction of pain levels under the extended treatment sessions administered to Group C (72 three hour treatment sessions, fig 4) suggest that the benefits of Audio Frequency Therapy are cumulative and in proportion to the number of treatment sessions a patient undergoes. „h Extrapolation of the mean improvement rate of all treated volunteers in considering the " worst case " situation suggests that it may be possible to completely eliminate many Arthritis signs and symptoms in any sufferer of Osteo or Rheumatoid Arthritis in less than twelve months with an AFTU treatment program of three, three hour sessions per week. „h Frequency Therapy may relieve all arthritis symptoms permanently. This may be possible if the underlying causative factors are also dealt with and the patient is given time to heal. A cleansing dietary regimen would be considered essential in all cases. „h Audio Frequency Therapy may relieve pain, swelling and inflammation in all arthritis affected areas, but will leave pain in joints which have suffered major degeneration I.e. moderate to complete breakdown of articular cartilage leaving exposed bone. „h No significant adverse side effects may be expected within the short term i.e. less than 12 months (based on clinical experience) if the above treatment protocol is adhered to and the Audio Frequency Therapy Unit operation manual closely followed. The study was initiated by a private company, BWBGELTECH PTY LTD seeking assistance from an arthritis support organisation, interested doctors, and a commercial laboratory. Placebo study conditions were strictly adhered to, with no volunteer being aware of whether he or she was receiving treatment. Three treatments per week of three hours duration were administered using thirty-four Audio Frequency Therapy Units. These pocket sized computerised devices allowed carefully selected menus of frequency programs to be applied to each chosen volunteer. All participants were regularly monitored by self-evaluation of pain on visual analogue scales, which complied with a standard hospital protocol for monitoring pain in arthritis patients. Also pre and post study HLB testing was provided by Australian Biologics Testing Services (Sydney) for seven randomly selected volunteers from the treated and placebo groups. Similarly, independent post-study appraisal of each volunteer's condition by their referring General Practitioner was requested. On completion of the study, the mean value of percentage reduction in overall pain (of the treated group was 34 percent compared with 13 percent reduction in the untreated group (The mean 13 percent reduction of pain in the untreated volunteers was generally attributable to the emotional benefits received by being involved in the study. This improvement was not evidenced in the blood test results. Long term side effects are unknown but may be similar in nature to TENS therapy. Continuous treatment with Audio Frequency Therapy Units over twelve months is not recommended. After this study was complete, Geoff Baker formed Electromed to build and market a commercial version of the Audio Frequency Therapy unit described here. The commercial version is called PET and it is described on the electromed web site There is a wealth of testimonies on the rife forum website which testify to the effectiveness of this treatment http://www.rife.de/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 Thank you Raffi, how do you use the infra red heat? --- doctorraffi <doctorraffi wrote: > Arthritis in my opinion needs to b evaluated first, > & to be diagnosed > later on categorized in chinese medicine.''this is > if clinically the > patient needs to be treated''otherwise for home > remedies,I would also > suggest fresh ginger root,sliced and located on the > joints,with 10-15 > min.infrared heat,would help relief the pain and the > inflamation.also > u can boil the ginger root,make a decoction out of > it and use it with > bandages to soak the joints for 15 min/day.also the > sliced gingers > could help the patient if they were located on > ''huato jiaji''points > along the spine.guasha would be of help to... > Raffi G > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 Hi dr. raffi, May i impose on your wisdom with a question on MS. I think it is muliple sclerosis. my sister-in-law who is 50 something has it. she is mobile without wheelchair but her legs tire easily, also there is some problems with her hands. any thoughts? Thank you, Rick --- doctorraffi <doctorraffi wrote: > Arthritis in my opinion needs to b evaluated first, > & to be diagnosed > later on categorized in chinese medicine.''this is > if clinically the > patient needs to be treated''otherwise for home > remedies,I would also > suggest fresh ginger root,sliced and located on the > joints,with 10-15 > min.infrared heat,would help relief the pain and the > inflamation.also > u can boil the ginger root,make a decoction out of > it and use it with > bandages to soak the joints for 15 min/day.also the > sliced gingers > could help the patient if they were located on > ''huato jiaji''points > along the spine.guasha would be of help to... > Raffi G > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 try devil's claw tea. - " rick sangrey " <grman53 <Chinese Traditional Medicine > Sunday, October 15, 2006 8:38 PM Re: [Chinese Traditional Medicine] arthritis > Thank you Raffi, > how do you use the infra red heat? > > --- doctorraffi <doctorraffi wrote: > >> Arthritis in my opinion needs to b evaluated first, >> & to be diagnosed >> later on categorized in chinese medicine.''this is >> if clinically the >> patient needs to be treated''otherwise for home >> remedies,I would also >> suggest fresh ginger root,sliced and located on the >> joints,with 10-15 >> min.infrared heat,would help relief the pain and the >> inflamation.also >> u can boil the ginger root,make a decoction out of >> it and use it with >> bandages to soak the joints for 15 min/day.also the >> sliced gingers >> could help the patient if they were located on >> ''huato jiaji''points >> along the spine.guasha would be of help to... >> Raffi G >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > Post message: Chinese Traditional Medicine > Subscribe: Chinese Traditional Medicine- > Un: Chinese Traditional Medicine- > List owner: Chinese Traditional Medicine-owner > > Shortcut URL to this page: > /community/Chinese Traditional Medicine > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 It all depends on what type of arthritis a person has because treatment is different. Prior to the discovery of prednisone, physicians believed arthritis was caused by a bacterial or viral infections. Then, prednisone was considered a cure. Of course, eventually they found that prednisone did horrible things to the body and that the arthritis was not cured. Prednisone was the turning point in the so-called autoimmune diseases. After that physicians, researches decide to destroy the immune system instead of building it up like is done for other diseases. They want you to believe that your body has suddenly become psychotic instead of some microorganism causing the problem. I am referring to conditions like SLE, RA, scleroderma, Reiter's, ankylosing spondylitis etc... Based on the that theory is the reason not to take echinacea or any immune boosting produuct. Fortunately, there are physicians who believe the immune system needs to be boosted. HTH Denise www.Jmichaelstyle.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 hello, i am new to the group, my main purpose is to help others as well as my self in this journey through life. I have Rheumetoid Arthritis and am currently on embrel injections for treatment. THough i have suffered no ill side affects i do not wish to be on this forever, should i ever be without medical insurance I would never be able to afford it. the cost without coverage is over $2,000. In the past i was on some really nasty medications as my Doctor struggled to get it under control, there was so much swelling that I had to be put on prednisone for a signifigant ammount of time, i was also on Methotrxate,plaquanil,and Izonozide(which is suppose to decrease the chances of me contracting T.B.) the medication that i am on now keeps my syptoms completely non-existant so i have been able to almost forget i have the disease. any advice would be greatly appreciated. sincerely, melisa O'Conchubair <RNMSW wrote: It all depends on what type of arthritis a person has because treatment is different. Prior to the discovery of prednisone, physicians believed arthritis was caused by a bacterial or viral infections. Then, prednisone was considered a cure. Of course, eventually they found that prednisone did horrible things to the body and that the arthritis was not cured. Prednisone was the turning point in the so-called autoimmune diseases. After that physicians, researches decide to destroy the immune system instead of building it up like is done for other diseases. They want you to believe that your body has suddenly become psychotic instead of some microorganism causing the problem. I am referring to conditions like SLE, RA, scleroderma, Reiter's, ankylosing spondylitis etc... Based on the that theory is the reason not to take echinacea or any immune boosting produuct. Fortunately, there are physicians who believe the immune system needs to be boosted. HTH Denise www.Jmichaelstyle.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 I know this may sound trite---but drink more water-if you have a local that sells manatec ( i think thats how you spell it) then buy some products-eat less meat- little or no sugar, cleanse the liver-see a nutritionist and stay away from tea and coffee. also tobacco is a no no. I also have arthritis and have been doing a few things to change my diet and i am much better.( in just 1 week) If you are serious and your problem sounds bad then you must readjust your thinking and change how you look at your life style otherwise you will get far worse. I know it's hard but once you get use to the change then you'll wonder why you ever ate the things you did. if you see a nutritionist also as you may be lacking minerals that will aid in your recovery. also gentle exercise- get the circulation going-if you don't take this all seriously you run the risk of becoming a cripple with little quality to life. Eandrew T <eandrewt2000 wrote: Wondering if anyone has some natural cures/relief for sore joints in my fingers and hip. I have been taking Glucosamine/Chrondroitin/MSM for a long time without much help. No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Mail for Mobile. Get started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 Massage with olive oil or Sesame oil, it will help. Edgar Cayce says that. <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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