Guest guest Posted March 30, 2005 Report Share Posted March 30, 2005 I've found that glucosamine sulfate plus devil's claw works very well. GS without the DC isn't anywhere near as good. Because I can't find just GS and DC anymore, have started taking a mixture of the two with MSM (commercial tablets). Think I"m allergic to them too. But hey....AnnJuliska <juliska wrote: Hi,Is anyone prepared to send me info on fast acting pain relief for arthritis especially if it can be applied topically ????Naturally any other info is welcome . I basically use folic acid , MSM ,glucosamine , B12, B3 & boron & antioxidants in a full regimen of supplements.Thank you in anticipation,Jules.Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Ann Marie C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2005 Report Share Posted March 30, 2005 Hello Try Arnica Gel ( Homeopathic remedy) I used it with my patient it's very effective - Juliska herbal remedies Wednesday, March 30, 2005 6:21 AM Herbal Remedies - Arthritis Hi,Is anyone prepared to send me info on fast acting pain relief for arthritis especially if it can be applied topically ????Naturally any other info is welcome . I basically use folic acid , MSM ,glucosamine , B12, B3 & boron & antioxidants in a full regimen of supplements.Thank you in anticipation,Jules.Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2005 Report Share Posted March 30, 2005 Here are two recipes I think will help. Let me know if they do. I am looking myself for a recipe that is as close as possible to the brand Tiger Balm Extra Strength, but without the coloring if at all possible. RECIPE 1: You can use the following recipe to help with the pain of arthritis. It can be used as often as you need. This makes quite a bit (About a gallon) but it has been found that it is also useful for bruises, sprains, even broken bones, it heals cuts and scrapes, takes the itch and sting out of insect bites, and is even good for chapped skin, although it should not be used on chapped lips as it has arnica in it and arnica should never be taken internally. My husband has arthritis in his neck and this relieves the discomfort and headache that he sometimes gets from that. If used for a period of a year or more it may even restore limited use of frozen joints. It can also be used on your animals but don't put the beeswax in it because it will stick to their fur. I use the cream formula along with an oral formula that helps to rebuild the cartilage like some of the expensive products on the market only it costs next to nothing to make and doesn't taste too bad. This is expensive but it does make almost a half gallon and you could go in with a friend and cut the cost in half. It costs about 130.00 retail to make. If you have a wholesaler or CO-OP you can get it from, you will save a LOT! It smells somewhat cooling but not as strong as Icy Hot. INGREDIENTS: 4 oz. chuchuhuasi * 1 ¼ c. arnica flowers 3 c. white oak c/s 1 ½ c. white willow c/s 2 ¼ c. wild cherry bark c/s ¾ c. marshmallow root c/s ½ c. black walnut hulls c/s 2 1/8 c. devils claw pow. ¼ c. shave grass c/s 2 c. milk weed root c/s ¼ c. sarsaprilla root c/s 2 c. cats claw c/s 3 c. yarrow c/s 1 Tbs. oil of wintergreen 1 gal. Cold pressed extra virgin olive oil 2 ½ lbs. bees wax DIRECTIONS: Put all dry ingredients into a 1 gallon bottle and add as much of the olive oil as you can get into it. Put a piece of Saran Wrap over the top and put on the lid. Put into a sunny window for 2 weeks, shaking the bottle to `stir' it several times a day. Add more oil as needed. The dry ingredients will soak up some of the oil so more will have to be added. When two weeks are up empty the bottle into a colander lined with a layer of muslin and set on top of a large glass bowl or enamel. Allow to drain for 24 hours. Melt the wax and add to the oil. Add the chuchuhuasi and the wintergreen. Stir with a wooden spoon until mixed and pour into jars. Always be sure to label and date. RECIPE 2: Collagen BUILDING Drink In a blender or food processor blend: INGREDIENTS: 1 med. Pineapple peeled and cored. 2 Tbs. Papaya seed powdered (Can get this at a health food store) 2 cups Food grade aloe vera gel. 16 pkg. Knox unflavored gelatin 1 12 oz. can Frozen pineapple juice. DIRECTIONS: Blend this all together and allow it to sit for at least 24 hours in the refridgerator. It will make about a half gallon but needs to be put into a larger jar as it will shrink as it ages.This freezes well so it can be divided into smaller portions. Take 4 Tbs. at bedtime. If you have a problem with cholesterol you may want to check into getting a vegetable based gelatin through your health food store. I have found this quite helpful in relieving arthritic pains. Be patient with it. It will be 4 to 6 weeks before you will notice much difference. Peace & Health, Jewel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2005 Report Share Posted March 30, 2005 Just wanted to share a tad more with you I thought might help you see what helps me that you too take, and other things you may not take already. My hubby has TONS of sports injuries from College. Plus he is a Master Carpenter and Handyman, so he really has to take care of his body even at age 36, or he could be in retirement by 40. NO KIDDING! Here are things we BOTH TAKE to help with Bone Loss, Bone, Joint, Muscle, and other pain. You can get most of these at Wal-Mart Super Center in smaller quantities that will last two people [taking them daily] about one month per bottle. Some cost more, like the Glucosamine and Chondroitin Sulfate with MSM complex. You will need to break them up throughout the day in order to take them all when your body needs them, and can absorb them the best. DAILY SUPPLIMENTAL REGIME: Morning Before Work, Excercise or Play: 1) Siberian Ginseng not to exceed 1800 mg daily [as directed on label] or according to body weight by your doctor. 2) B-Complex not to exceed Liquid 1 dropperful daily [as directed on label] or according to body weight by your doctor. 3) B-12 Liquid not to exceed 1/2 dropperful daily [as directed on label] or according to body weight by your doctor. and....... Before Every Meal [if you want to cut food intake]: 1) Green Tea not to exceed 315 mg daily [as directed on label] or according to body weight by your doctor. Before bed [take 4 hours after your last meal of the night before bed time] This is when the body has digested your evening meal, and thus the system is more relaxed to receive neutrients. I was taught this a few years ago, it has made a big difference in how much quicker my body absorbs them and I notice a change for the better. Take WITH MILK on an EMPTY TUMMY. 1) Glucosamine and Chondroitin Sulfate with MSM complex [as directed on label] or according to body weight by your doctor. 2) Vitamin E D-alfa 800 I.U. Once Daily [as directed on label] or according to body weight by your doctor. 3) Cal-Mag-Zinc Blend [as directed on label] or according to body weight by your doctor. 4) Vitamin C 1000 mg daily [as directed on label] or according to body weight by your doctor. I have safely taken as much as 2000 mg daily to releive constipation, and gotten BETTER results than with any over the counter stool softener. However you need to ask your doctor if you can safely take over 1000 mg yourself, since your health and system is not mine. 5) Potassium [This is AWESOME like Cal-Mag-Zinc for pain in the bones, joints, and cartiledge] - [as directed on label] or according to body weight by your doctor. 6) Multi-Vitamin with Herbs - Ask your doctor if you need any additional vit. min. or herb you need more of or some of. Then look for a good multiple with what you need in it. This way you are not taking even more pills or powders. FOR FALL & WINTER SEASONS FLU & COLD PREVENTION TAKE: 1) Echinacea Liquid 1 dropperful in a cup of mint, and or, lemon tea with honey. QUIT TAKING SPRING & SUMMER. You do not want it to build up in your system and your system get use to it, developing a resistance to it's benefits. FOR LIVER FUNCTION & REPAIR TAKE: 1) Milk Thistle Gel Caps - not to exceed 1,000 mg daily [as directed on label] or according to body weight by your doctor. FOR GASTRIC & ACID REFLUX TAKE A COMBINATION OF: Flaxseed Oil 1000 mg ...and... Ginger Root 550 mg daily - 15-min. BEFORE each meal. The oil will reduce stomach acid, by coating the lining of the stomach, and thus acidic and acid promoting foods will cause far less of a acidic reaction. IF YOUR REFLUX CAUSES BURNING AND PAIN IN YOUR THROAT, MOUTH, AND LARYNX...BE SURE TO SEE A PHYSICIAN SOON, RELUX DISEASE CAN CAUSE CANCER OF THE THROAT AND THE CONNECTED AREAS WHERE THE ACID BREAKS DOWN THE TISSUES. SPRINGTIME ALLERGIES? TAKE: 1) SINUS / LUNG Liquid " I prefer Dr. Richard Schulze's brand " - 1 dropperful in juice or herbal or decafinated tea once daily [as directed on label] or according to body weight by your doctor. *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* In Health ~ Peace & Happiness, Jewel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2005 Report Share Posted March 30, 2005 Hello Jules, I use bee venom therapy, to know more about that do a search on google on bee venom or apitherapy. The venom does provide great relief. I do up to 37 stings within an hour. I do sometimes less than that and I do it 2 or 3 times a week. I am fortunate to know a beekeeper whose wife has MS and also uses bee venom. So he does not objects in giving me some bees. Pain from the sting is easily controlled by deep breathing, but at the begining your body hitches a little but after 2 weeks no more problems. I also get a lot of energy from that treatment. Good Luck, Noel On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 05:21:13 +0200 Juliska <juliska writes: Hi,Is anyone prepared to send me info on fast acting pain relief for arthritis especially if it can be applied topically ????Naturally any other info is welcome . I basically use folic acid , MSM ,glucosamine , B12, B3 & boron & antioxidants in a full regimen of supplements.Thank you in anticipation,Jules.Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2005 Report Share Posted March 30, 2005 CAUTION A word of warning on this treatment. This is one of those treatments where a little caution is advised. Bee Venom is poisonous and it is the body's reaction to handling the poison that brings about healing. This is much the same as Homeopathy and its treatments and philosophy. Minute amounts of Arsenic or Mercury in trace forms bring about healing by getting the body to react to a potential threat. Just threatening the body with these poisons brings about the raising of the body's natural defences. Bee Venom works the same way but in a much stronger dosage (not a homeopathic dosage - but what would be considered an herbal dosage), and should be taken with great caution. There may not be many TRUE allergies, but this is one of them. This is one I'd muscle test first before proceeding any further, and anyone who is already truly allergy sensitive would do well to stay away from this treatment until some serious cleansing had been done first. For Arthritis, there's nothing that beats Panther Piss (in the Files . Much love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-447-5282Doc - noelg herbal remedies Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:02 AM Re: Herbal Remedies - Arthritis Hello Jules, I use bee venom therapy, to know more about that do a search on google on bee venom or apitherapy. The venom does provide great relief. I do up to 37 stings within an hour. I do sometimes less than that and I do it 2 or 3 times a week. I am fortunate to know a beekeeper whose wife has MS and also uses bee venom. So he does not objects in giving me some bees. Pain from the sting is easily controlled by deep breathing, but at the begining your body hitches a little but after 2 weeks no more problems. I also get a lot of energy from that treatment. Good Luck, Noel On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 05:21:13 +0200 Juliska <juliska writes: Hi,Is anyone prepared to send me info on fast acting pain relief for arthritis especially if it can be applied topically ????Naturally any other info is welcome . I basically use folic acid , MSM ,glucosamine , B12, B3 & boron & antioxidants in a full regimen of supplements.Thank you in anticipation,Jules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2005 Report Share Posted March 30, 2005 May I ask...what is panther piss?....have read this many times on here and I'm new at this.....thank you...brenda"Dr. Ian Shillington" <DocShillington wrote: CAUTION A word of warning on this treatment. This is one of those treatments where a little caution is advised. Bee Venom is poisonous and it is the body's reaction to handling the poison that brings about healing. This is much the same as Homeopathy and its treatments and philosophy. Minute amounts of Arsenic or Mercury in trace forms bring about healing by getting the body to react to a potential threat. Just threatening the body with these poisons brings about the raising of the body's natural defences. Bee Venom works the same way but in a much stronger dosage (not a homeopathic dosage - but what would be considered an herbal dosage), and should be taken with great caution. There may not be many TRUE allergies, but this is one of them. This is one I'd muscle test first before proceeding any further, and anyone who is already truly allergy sensitive would do well to stay away from this treatment until some serious cleansing had been done first. For Arthritis, there's nothing that beats Panther Piss (in the Files . Much love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-447-5282Doc - noelg herbal remedies Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:02 AM Re: Herbal Remedies - Arthritis Hello Jules, I use bee venom therapy, to know more about that do a search on google on bee venom or apitherapy. The venom does provide great relief. I do up to 37 stings within an hour. I do sometimes less than that and I do it 2 or 3 times a week. I am fortunate to know a beekeeper whose wife has MS and also uses bee venom. So he does not objects in giving me some bees. Pain from the sting is easily controlled by deep breathing, but at the begining your body hitches a little but after 2 weeks no more problems. I also get a lot of energy from that treatment. Good Luck, Noel On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 05:21:13 +0200 Juliska <juliska writes: Hi,Is anyone prepared to send me info on fast acting pain relief for arthritis especially if it can be applied topically ????Naturally any other info is welcome . I basically use folic acid , MSM ,glucosamine , B12, B3 & boron & antioxidants in a full regimen of supplements.Thank you in anticipation,Jules.Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Always in the service of our Father. Brenda Joyce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2005 Report Share Posted March 30, 2005 Hi Brenda, you can find all the data on these remedies in the files of the website. Just go to the HR website, and click on the menu button for *files*. You will find a whole wealth of information in there, including recipes :-) love Lisa - Brenda Joyce herbal remedies Wednesday, March 30, 2005 6:26 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - Arthritis May I ask...what is panther piss?....have read this many times on here and I'm new at this.....thank you...brenda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2005 Report Share Posted March 31, 2005 Brenda, Panther Piss is in the files section under " Doc's recipes " , http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/ wHVLQiDFyWKkX9ZmmOxEraomYEpsYWWEH0NBB9V8CWm11K5OcNvRH4Ou6GjEnJRc0BeR S5rm1KSqoENmpLn1hLxomVZV/Doc%20Ian%20Shillington%20ND/Panther%20Piss Or try: http://tinyurl.com/6hnzn (It consists of organic apple cider vinegar and blackstrap molasses.. : ) Scott. herbal remedies , Brenda Joyce <brendajoyce8> wrote: > May I ask...what is panther piss?....have read this many times on here and I'm new at this.....thank you...brenda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2005 Report Share Posted March 31, 2005 Hi I agree totally with Doc on this one, I was stung by a bee and went into Anaphylactic shock. If it had not been for my wife's very quick action, I would not be here now. So BE CAREFUL!!!. Kind regards to all Jeff Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.5 - Release 29/03/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2005 Report Share Posted March 31, 2005 The Panther Piss recipe is in the files, but it is 50/50 Organic Black Strap Molasses and Organic Apple Cider Vinegar. I take 1 to 1- 1/2 T of it in about 3-4 oz of distilled water in the morning and again, when I remember, in the evening. Slightly diluted it has a bright, tart taste to it and not unpleasant. I had trouble taking BSM full strength, but mixing in the ACV actually makes it much better. herbal remedies , Brenda Joyce <brendajoyce8> wrote: > May I ask...what is panther piss?....have read this many times on here and I'm new at this.....thank you...brenda > > " Dr. Ian Shillington " <DocShillington@K...> wrote:CAUTION > > A word of warning on this treatment. > > This is one of those treatments where a little caution is advised. Bee Venom is poisonous and it is the body's reaction to handling the poison that brings about healing. This is much the same as Homeopathy and its treatments and philosophy. Minute amounts of Arsenic or Mercury in trace forms bring about healing by getting the body to react to a potential threat. Just threatening the body with these poisons brings about the raising of the body's natural defences. Bee Venom works the same way but in a much stronger dosage (not a homeopathic dosage - but what would be considered an herbal dosage), and should be taken with great caution. > > There may not be many TRUE allergies, but this is one of them. This is one I'd muscle test first before proceeding any further, and anyone who is already truly allergy sensitive would do well to stay away from this treatment until some serious cleansing had been done first. > > For Arthritis, there's nothing that beats Panther Piss (in the Files . > > Much love, > > Doc > > Ian " Doc " Shillington N.D. > 727-447-5282 > Doc@A... > - > noelg@j... > herbal remedies > Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:02 AM > Re: Herbal Remedies - Arthritis > > > Hello Jules, > > I use bee venom therapy, to know more about that do a search on google on bee venom or apitherapy. > The venom does provide great relief. I do up to 37 stings within an hour. I do sometimes less than that and I do it 2 or 3 times a week. I am fortunate to know a beekeeper whose wife has MS and also uses bee venom. So he does not objects in giving me some bees. Pain from the sting is easily controlled by deep breathing, but at the begining your body hitches a little but after 2 weeks no more problems. I also get a lot of energy from that treatment. > > Good Luck, > Noel > > On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 05:21:13 +0200 Juliska <juliska@w...> writes: > Hi, > > Is anyone prepared to send me info on fast acting pain relief for arthritis especially if it can be applied topically ???? > > Naturally any other info is welcome . I basically use folic acid , MSM ,glucosamine , B12, B3 & boron & antioxidants in a full regimen of supplements. > > Thank you in anticipation, > Jules. > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington@G... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2005 Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 > Hi! Cayenne and/or ginger works well on arthritis. Find a rub with one or both of these ingredients in it. Jen > > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural > remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and > to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long > as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any > person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products > from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and > members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2005 Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 Thanks JenOn 5/12/05, jenthetiger <jenthetiger wrote: > Hi! Cayenne and/or ginger works well on arthritis. Find a rub with one or both of these ingredients in it. Jen > > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural > remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and > to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long > as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any > person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products > from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and > members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 In a message dated 5/20/2006 6:56:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, sabb2 writes: > She's cutting out dairy products, except for cottage cheese (would goats' cheese be ok I wonder?). Also citrus fruits, strawberries, gooseberries, rhubarb and pineapple, all red meats, ham, bacon etc, salt, refined sugar and flour products, alcohol, caffeine, and tomatoes. < I know that good quality fish oil helps tremendously with arthritis. Try to get fish oil that is distilled. Nordic Naturals is an excellent brand (no, I don't work for them, just trust their processing and product). Welcome to Nordic Naturals NordicNaturals.com Fish oil doesn't work instantly, you need to use it on a continuum. I've had or should I say used to have arthritis in the knees and don't have it anymore since taking the fish oil for about 3 years now. And fish oil has so many other wonderful health benefits (omega 3's). Hope this helps... Dawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 Hi Sarah, There are two types of arthritis - osteoarthritis and rheumatoid arthritis. Osteoarthritis can develop through everyday wear and tear on the body as well as a lack of enzymes in the diet. Adding enzymes to the diet will be beneficial - whether in a supplement or through raw fruits and vegetables. Rheumatoid arthritis is an autoimmune disorder that is brought about by toxins in the body or a viral infection. Drugs that are typically prescribed may seem to help the problem as they may take care of the pain, but are actually adding to the toxicity of the body. Massage can be very helpful as well as gentle stretching exercises which will increase circulation and improve blood flow to that particular part of the body. As well as implementing an alkaline diet. I would like to add that some fruits and vegetables that are considered acidic - like tomatoes or pineapple actually turn to alkaline in the body. Eliminating red meat, pork, processed foods, caffeine and alcohol and incorporating a diet of whole grains, fresh fruits and vegetables and pure water is a great start. The epsom salt does help to cleanse the body by drawing toxins out. And for your mom she should be building up her body rather than cleansing at this point. For supplements I would recommend EverFlex or a comparable product which contains MSM, Glucosamine and Chondroitin. It is also beneficial for your mom to take a calcium supplement, but be sure to choose one that contains vitamin D, silica, boron and magnesium. These additional elements are beneficial for utilization and assimiliation of the calcium. You can take alfalfa to help alkalize the body. Please feel free to e-mail me if you have more questions. Blessings, Michelle Newport, CH Nature For Life " Better Health Through Better Living " http://www.natureforlife.com > ------- > Arthritis > " Sarah B " <sabb2 > Sat, May 20, 2006 3:56 pm > > > Hi everyone > This is my first post here, I have really found all the information > interesting and everyone so caring, it's a great group. > > My main interests are in aromatherapy, reiki, yoga and nutrition. I'm > not a qualified therapist but am always reading about these and other > subjects and I use much of what I've learnt for myself and my family. > > I would appreciate any comments anyone would like to make on the subject > of arthritis...my Mum has been suffering for many years, mainly in her > hands, and has decided to make a big effort to tackle the problem. She > is planning to change her diet, at least to give it a go for 3 months or > more, and I wonder if anyone has any additional suggestions or comments > on her approach: > > For a start she'll be taking cider vinegar and honey 3 times a day, as > well as molasses and a multivitamin/mineral supplement. > > She's cutting out dairy products, except for cottage cheese (would > goats' cheese be ok I wonder?). Also citrus fruits, strawberries, > gooseberries, rhubarb and pineapple, all red meats, ham, bacon etc, salt, > refined sugar and flour products, alcohol, caffeine, and tomatoes. > > These are the main rules. I think she's also planning to take some > epsom salt baths, although she has tried these before and found the > subsequent sweating exhausting. (I don't know much about this). > > Many thanks for any recommendations or tips. > Blessings > Sarah > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 The Blood Type Diet can also be very beneficial for arthritis. Which, depending on one's blood type, could be a very different diet from the one described here with different supplements. Linda - mnewport Sunday, May 21, 2006 8:46 AM RE: Arthritis Hi Sarah, There are two types of arthritis - osteoarthritis and rheumatoid arthritis. Osteoarthritis can develop through everyday wear and tear on the body as well as a lack of enzymes in the diet. Adding enzymes to the diet will be beneficial - whether in a supplement or through raw fruits and vegetables. Rheumatoid arthritis is an autoimmune disorder that is brought about by toxins in the body or a viral infection. Drugs that are typically prescribed may seem to help the problem as they may take care of the pain, but are actually adding to the toxicity of the body. Massage can be very helpful as well as gentle stretching exercises which will increase circulation and improve blood flow to that particular part of the body. As well as implementing an alkaline diet. I would like to add that some fruits and vegetables that are considered acidic - like tomatoes or pineapple actually turn to alkaline in the body. Eliminating red meat, pork, processed foods, caffeine and alcohol and incorporating a diet of whole grains, fresh fruits and vegetables and pure water is a great start. The epsom salt does help to cleanse the body by drawing toxins out. And for your mom she should be building up her body rather than cleansing at this point. For supplements I would recommend EverFlex or a comparable product which contains MSM, Glucosamine and Chondroitin. It is also beneficial for your mom to take a calcium supplement, but be sure to choose one that contains vitamin D, silica, boron and magnesium. These additional elements are beneficial for utilization and assimiliation of the calcium. You can take alfalfa to help alkalize the body. Please feel free to e-mail me if you have more questions. Blessings, Michelle Newport, CH Nature For Life " Better Health Through Better Living " http://www.natureforlife.com > ------- > Arthritis > " Sarah B " <sabb2 > Sat, May 20, 2006 3:56 pm > > > Hi everyone > This is my first post here, I have really found all the information > interesting and everyone so caring, it's a great group. > > My main interests are in aromatherapy, reiki, yoga and nutrition. I'm > not a qualified therapist but am always reading about these and other > subjects and I use much of what I've learnt for myself and my family. > > I would appreciate any comments anyone would like to make on the subject > of arthritis...my Mum has been suffering for many years, mainly in her > hands, and has decided to make a big effort to tackle the problem. She > is planning to change her diet, at least to give it a go for 3 months or > more, and I wonder if anyone has any additional suggestions or comments > on her approach: > > For a start she'll be taking cider vinegar and honey 3 times a day, as > well as molasses and a multivitamin/mineral supplement. > > She's cutting out dairy products, except for cottage cheese (would > goats' cheese be ok I wonder?). Also citrus fruits, strawberries, > gooseberries, rhubarb and pineapple, all red meats, ham, bacon etc, salt, > refined sugar and flour products, alcohol, caffeine, and tomatoes. > > These are the main rules. I think she's also planning to take some > epsom salt baths, although she has tried these before and found the > subsequent sweating exhausting. (I don't know much about this). > > Many thanks for any recommendations or tips. > Blessings > Sarah > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 Hi Linda, I have also studied the blood type diet and even followed the diet for a period of time when I first became involved in natural health and have found that not all the dietary recommendations are consistent for each blood type. But, it is definitely worth doing the research as I believe you can always benefit from taking charge of your own health rather than putting your health in someone else's hands. Blessings, Michelle Newport, CH Nature For Life " Better Health Through Better Living " http://www.natureforlife.com > ------- > Re: Arthritis > " Linda Bumpas " <lindabumpas > Sun, May 21, 2006 8:57 am > > > The Blood Type Diet can also be very beneficial for arthritis. Which, > depending on one's blood type, could be a very different diet from the > one described here with different supplements. > > Linda > - > mnewport > > Sunday, May 21, 2006 8:46 AM > RE: Arthritis > > > Hi Sarah, > > There are two types of arthritis - osteoarthritis and rheumatoid > arthritis. > > Osteoarthritis can develop through everyday wear and tear on the body > as > well as a lack of enzymes in the diet. Adding enzymes to the diet will > be beneficial - whether in a supplement or through raw fruits and > vegetables. > > Rheumatoid arthritis is an autoimmune disorder that is brought about > by > toxins in the body or a viral infection. Drugs that are typically > prescribed may seem to help the problem as they may take care of the > pain, but are actually adding to the toxicity of the body. > > Massage can be very helpful as well as gentle stretching exercises > which > will increase circulation and improve blood flow to that particular > part > of the body. As well as implementing an alkaline diet. I would like to > add that some fruits and vegetables that are considered acidic - like > tomatoes or pineapple actually turn to alkaline in the body. > Eliminating red meat, pork, processed foods, caffeine and alcohol and > incorporating a diet of whole grains, fresh fruits and vegetables and > pure water is a great start. > > The epsom salt does help to cleanse the body by drawing toxins out. > And > for your mom she should be building up her body rather than cleansing > at this point. > > For supplements I would recommend EverFlex or a comparable product > which > contains MSM, Glucosamine and Chondroitin. It is also beneficial for > your mom to take a calcium supplement, but be sure to choose one that > contains vitamin D, silica, boron and magnesium. These additional > elements are beneficial for utilization and assimiliation of the > calcium. You can take alfalfa to help alkalize the body. Please feel > free to e-mail me if you have more questions. > > Blessings, > > Michelle Newport, CH > Nature For Life > " Better Health Through Better Living " > http://www.natureforlife.com > > > > ------- > > Arthritis > > " Sarah B " <sabb2 > > Sat, May 20, 2006 3:56 pm > > > > > > Hi everyone > > This is my first post here, I have really found all the information > > interesting and everyone so caring, it's a great group. > > > > My main interests are in aromatherapy, reiki, yoga and nutrition. > I'm > > not a qualified therapist but am always reading about these and > other > > subjects and I use much of what I've learnt for myself and my > family. > > > > I would appreciate any comments anyone would like to make on the > subject > > of arthritis...my Mum has been suffering for many years, mainly in > her > > hands, and has decided to make a big effort to tackle the problem. > She > > is planning to change her diet, at least to give it a go for 3 > months or > > more, and I wonder if anyone has any additional suggestions or > comments > > on her approach: > > > > For a start she'll be taking cider vinegar and honey 3 times a day, > as > > well as molasses and a multivitamin/mineral supplement. > > > > She's cutting out dairy products, except for cottage cheese (would > > goats' cheese be ok I wonder?). Also citrus fruits, strawberries, > > gooseberries, rhubarb and pineapple, all red meats, ham, bacon etc, > salt, > > refined sugar and flour products, alcohol, caffeine, and tomatoes. > > > > These are the main rules. I think she's also planning to take some > > epsom salt baths, although she has tried these before and found the > > subsequent sweating exhausting. (I don't know much about this). > > > > Many thanks for any recommendations or tips. > > Blessings > > Sarah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 hello, I am 34 and was diagnosed with Rheumatoid arthritis at the age of 21. Sounds like your mom is on a good start. I found following what this last poster has listed is very beneficial. Also exercise and rest. 5 years ago I had started training in Tai Chi, Chi Gong and nae gong style of martial arts and know I am into yoga. I am off of medications and so far everything is going great. I also occasionally soak in a herbal chinese bath which helps sore joints and pull out the toxins in the body. www.oomyungdoe.com sells this product in there online store. I found by combining proper eating, exercise, rest and positive thinking have put me back on track to a much more balance and comfortable life. take care Jennnifer mnewport wrote: Hi Sarah, There are two types of arthritis - osteoarthritis and rheumatoid arthritis. Osteoarthritis can develop through everyday wear and tear on the body as well as a lack of enzymes in the diet. Adding enzymes to the diet will be beneficial - whether in a supplement or through raw fruits and vegetables. Rheumatoid arthritis is an autoimmune disorder that is brought about by toxins in the body or a viral infection. Drugs that are typically prescribed may seem to help the problem as they may take care of the pain, but are actually adding to the toxicity of the body. Massage can be very helpful as well as gentle stretching exercises which will increase circulation and improve blood flow to that particular part of the body. As well as implementing an alkaline diet. I would like to add that some fruits and vegetables that are considered acidic - like tomatoes or pineapple actually turn to alkaline in the body. Eliminating red meat, pork, processed foods, caffeine and alcohol and incorporating a diet of whole grains, fresh fruits and vegetables and pure water is a great start. The epsom salt does help to cleanse the body by drawing toxins out. And for your mom she should be building up her body rather than cleansing at this point. For supplements I would recommend EverFlex or a comparable product which contains MSM, Glucosamine and Chondroitin. It is also beneficial for your mom to take a calcium supplement, but be sure to choose one that contains vitamin D, silica, boron and magnesium. These additional elements are beneficial for utilization and assimiliation of the calcium. You can take alfalfa to help alkalize the body. Please feel free to e-mail me if you have more questions. Blessings, Michelle Newport, CH Nature For Life " Better Health Through Better Living " http://www.natureforlife.com > ------- > Arthritis > " Sarah B " <sabb2 > Sat, May 20, 2006 3:56 pm > > > Hi everyone > This is my first post here, I have really found all the information > interesting and everyone so caring, it's a great group. > > My main interests are in aromatherapy, reiki, yoga and nutrition. I'm > not a qualified therapist but am always reading about these and other > subjects and I use much of what I've learnt for myself and my family. > > I would appreciate any comments anyone would like to make on the subject > of arthritis...my Mum has been suffering for many years, mainly in her > hands, and has decided to make a big effort to tackle the problem. She > is planning to change her diet, at least to give it a go for 3 months or > more, and I wonder if anyone has any additional suggestions or comments > on her approach: > > For a start she'll be taking cider vinegar and honey 3 times a day, as > well as molasses and a multivitamin/mineral supplement. > > She's cutting out dairy products, except for cottage cheese (would > goats' cheese be ok I wonder?). Also citrus fruits, strawberries, > gooseberries, rhubarb and pineapple, all red meats, ham, bacon etc, salt, > refined sugar and flour products, alcohol, caffeine, and tomatoes. > > These are the main rules. I think she's also planning to take some > epsom salt baths, although she has tried these before and found the > subsequent sweating exhausting. (I don't know much about this). > > Many thanks for any recommendations or tips. > Blessings > Sarah > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 yes i and some firneds have had good luck w a chinese topical solution called..get this...zheng gu shui.......it is dirt cheap and i had a friend who is a hedge fund mgr..so he is real well heeled and his wife has artritic knees and she tried it and she swears by it...she told me tht it was the first time her knees didnt hurt in like 15 years.....wht else can i say.. olm - " Louise " <magoo5396 <herbal remedies > Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:28 PM Herbal Remedies - Arthritis > Hi I have ostoarthristis in both my knees and the right one is worse > than the left any one know of any remedy that I might try. Thanks > Louise > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural > remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and > to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long > as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any > person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from > list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and > members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 Hi, There are many ways to approach osteoarthritis and what works for one may not work for another. For yrs the I believe that Glucosamine-Chondroitin and MSM have been used. I read recently about Selenium being very good and Devils Claw is good for joints. Other things used are Yucca, Boswellia and Bromelain. I think you have to come up with the combo that works for you Patt "You can lead a man to knowledge,but you can't make him think " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 ---hi sarah my file on the sibject Arthritis and joint care There are about 150 different types of arthritis recognised by rheumatologists for the term is used to cover a wide range of illnesses covering the muscular skeletal system. Basically however arthritis refers to inflammation of the joints the most common being osteoarthritis. Less common but far more disabling is rheumatoid arthritis, which is usually a more chronic disease. Usual methods of treatment involve aspirin which acts to suppress inflammation Cortisone that seems to be effective but extended use has shown side effects to the adrenal glands, which impairs the body to withstand stress. There is also a tendency for the symptoms to intensify when the cortisone is withdrawn. From the Edgar cayce perspective As a preventative measure Cayce said that one should have a peanut oil rub or massage once a week over the entire body, the peanut oil being used liberally, he said no one need fear arthritis. Causes Cayce describes the causes, which were limited to seven categories: poor assimilation, poor elimination, impaired circulation, glandular malfunction, karmic and psychological causes previous treatments, spinal sublaxations and injuries. According to cayce there was a pattern with improper eliminations in some people, which began with the production of excess stomach acid, a condition that sometimes came from suppressed anger and other stress related conditions. The excess acid tended to decrease the lymphatic system. Poor assimilation was also a factor, with some foods actually becoming poisonous due to their inability to be utilised properly. Constipation resulted.As a contributing factor circulation was mentioned in 40% of cases. In 8% of cases glandular misfunction was sited as the first cause and in 29% of the readings as a contributing factor. Karma was also mentioned as a cause as was the bearing of resentments, this was considered to be a major factor in the development of the disease. Previous treatments were also mentioned with one man being told that certain immunisation injections had disturbed his circulation resulting in an arthritic condition.Spinal misalignments and injuries were also noted as a first cause, most of the readings mentioned the coccyx or the lower portion of the spine as the source of the problems.Other contributing causes were diet,exercise,and mental attitude. Treatment 1. Foods to avoided were white flour and its products, white bread, pasta etc. fried foods, carbonated drinks, beer and hard liquor, [an occasional glass of red wine was OK] and white potatoes but the skins were OK. 2. Combinations of foods to be avoided were starches and sugar, coffee and tea with milk or cream and citrus fruits with cereals or dairy products. A typical diet placed emphasis on vegetables and fruits whole grains and light proteins.highly advised was a decrease in meats and starches with meat being completely excluded from the diet for a period of time .In severe cases a semi liquid diet was advised to avoid strain on the system. 3. Massage,was indicated in 63% of the readings and this was to be given usually after another treatment such as as Epsom salt baths or after a steam bath or the use of the wet cell device. Specific oils were advised to be used with the massage, which were equal parts of olive oil with peanut oil and tincture of myrrh. Prepared by heating a small amount of olive oil and then adding the myrrh. It was mentioned to use the oils freely and as much as the body could absorb. Other oils were lanolin, mineral oil, olio pine needles, sassafras oil, witch hazel, oil of wintergreen, cedarwood oil, mustard oil, kerosene and tincture of benzoin. Cayce said to heat the oil before use to aid absorbtion. Massage were to be given in a firm but gentle rotary motion not pinching the muscles but drawing the circulation by moving the hands smoothly over the skin. Special attention was to given to the neck and spine and to parts of the body where there was discomfort. The direction given for the massage was from the trunk to the extremities of the body. Frequency of massage varied but the most common was once weekly, once monthly and three times weekly. 4. Atomidine an edgar cayce product which can be got from the usa or in england was also recommended in 42% of cases but due to its high iodine content this was recommended in specific dosages and treatment cycles. Excessive iodine in the system could overstimulate the thyroid and result in harmful effects in the body. Never take atomidine when you are using thyroid medicine or other drugs as the drugs could react with each other and have undesirable effects. The most common dosage was one drop taken daily for five days followed by a five-day rest period then one-drop daily then rest for five days. Then resume the cycle.Daily dosages ranged from one to eight drops daily. It was recommended that atomidine was taken in half glass of water in the morning before eating. Frequently atomidine was coordinated with Epsom salt baths and massage with the baths being taken during the rest period and immediately following the atomidine sequence. 5. Improving the elimination process within the body,used in about 37% of cases the most frequent methods were castor oil packs, enemas, colonics, and eno salts. Body temperature water was to be used for the colonic which was to be followed by a rinse with an antiseptic such as Glyco thymoline one-tablespoon to a quart of water. Warm castor oil packs can be also applied over the abdominal area together with internal doses of olive oil. The packs were made by heating the oil and soaking the oil in woolen flannel- not boiling the oil but as hot as you could stand. The pack was then placed over say the stomach area or liver usualy with a plastic bag over the top to prevent soiling the lot can be strapped into place and then heated or kept warm. Castor oil is also used on any arthritic, rheumatic, or muscular and joint pain as unction. Basically an infra red lamp is placed 12-18 inches from the part to be massaged. Apply the castor oil on the painful area and let the lamp warm it and this will help the oil to penetrate the skin, this done for about 5-10 mins. Then keep rubbing with the fingers and hand until the oil is worked in. Keep putting more oil on and massaging continued for 10-60 mins. Massage was also very helpful, to be given usually after another treatment such as an Epsom salt bath. If the reaction to colonics and enemas was to severe, emphasis was placed on gentler methods such as Epsom salt baths, steam baths and a diet rich in laxative foods. Epsom salt baths were in a range of five pounds of Epsom salts to about 20 galls of water for a modern tub and 8-10 pounds for an old tub. Be in the tub for about 10-12 mins to start with and then work up to 20 mins. Further stimulation to the body could be given with using massage or rubbing the extremities of the body while in the bath. Temp of bath was to be as hot as possible up to the point of pain. Epsom salt packs can be also applied when needed over areas of extreme pain. The salts apparently act by drawing out toxins. you can also immerse any local part of the body in a smaller basin too with people who have arthritic hands or other parts of the body. also you can form a pack ,by dissolving say 1 pound of salts in a small basin or pot and as much water necessary to saturate a towel. apply as hot as possible over the area indicated and keep repeating the applications for 2-3 hrs .where possible use an infra red lamp or other means to keep the pack hot. Where there is crippling of the joints of the hands, pain of arthritis or inflammation of the tendons considerable relief can be found by using an Epsom salt bath and massage. Use a large quantity of the salts about 1 pound in the water though, not just a spoon full. Soak the affected area for about 5 mins and then massage the affected area under water, rotate the joints and soak again for another 5-10 mins. 6. Spinal manipulation such as osteopathy although chiropractic and neropathy were also recommended. Cayce claimed there was no better mechanical therapy as good as spinal manipulation .One could start at the base of the spine and sometimes at the top- cayce gave both methods, and you could also work from the outer portions of the body inwards. 7. Mental attitude was essential to healing; it had to be conducive to the healing. Positive thinking opened the body to the source of all healing- that which is spiritual and unitive in nature. Cayce said that only the self stood in the way of healing. 8. Persistence and consistency of the treatments was highly desirable. 9. Fume baths using a cabinet steam bath were also recommended. In 19% of readings, the baths were to relax the body and stimulate the perspiratory system so it could throw off toxins and waste through the skin. Various substances were to be added to the baths such as witch hazel, which was most frequent. Atomidine, pine oil, Epsom salts and a mixture of witch hazel and iodine, pine and wintergreen oil, or pine oil and tincture of benzoin. To avoid strain an ice bag or cold cloth could be placed on the head. In almost all cases massage was recommended after the sweat. 10. Electrotherapy was also mentioned, using the edgar cayce device known as the wet cell in the most severe cases. The impedance device was also used for 20 min in cycles of four at a time; meditation and devotional thoughts were advised during the treatment. The violet ray was used in conjunction with other treatments such as internal doses of chloride of gold and bromide of soda. These were to be taken just before the violet ray treatment and the ultraviolet light applied over the spine and lower limbs treatment time varied from 1.5 ¡V 30 min and daily ¡V once every 2 weeks. 11. Internal doses of gold and soda ¡V minute amounts of chloride of gold and bicarb of soda in half a glass of water. Although not specifically recommended by cayce spiritual healing has the capacity to be very beneficial in all illnesses- see other pages on this fascinating subject. From the Reilly health book which is essential reading to all those who are interested in getting and keeping well are the directions for the Epsom salt bath. Relief has been obtained to joints, pain of arthritis, of inflammation of the tendons by using Epsom salts and massage. A seamstress was sent to Reilly, using a Epsom salt hand bath and massage for two weeks she was able to close her hand something she had not been able to do two weeks before. The same treatment was applied with many musicians. Make a hot Epsom salt solution by adding one pound of salts to a basin or bowl. Soak the hand for about 5 mins and then massage the hand with the other hand under water, really work the fingers rotating the joints then soak again for another 5-10 mins. After about 20 mins of soaking take the hands out and massage with peanut oil all the way up the arms, the same procedure can be used with the feet. Epsom salt baths were also advised with amounts varying between 5-20 lbs of salts to the bath tub starting at 101degress and working up to 106-108, staying in the tub for 10-12 mins to start and then gradually increase to 20 mins. An ice bag over certain areas with help you bear the heat. This he found particularly good therapy for stiff joints muscular pain arthritis and rheumatism for increasing the metabolism and the work of the heart and relieving pain. Caution was needed with cardiovascular and high blood pressure cases. 11.One of the most important principles outlined by cayce and others where people are suffering from any condition is to do everything they can to help others in whatever capacity they can. Cayce frequently mentioned that this would bring faster results. This is a great ingredient in helping all people to transmute their own karma. See other pages on this particularly important treatment. 12 Using Egyptian oil,- an edgar cayce product One lady reported pains and growths are gone and arthritis did not come to her this year. Another reports that her knees were so swollen but after using the oil swelling went down, she uses the oil 2-3 times a week. This other lady reports that soaking in Epsom salts then applying the oil gave her the best results. Pain seems to ease immediately and use of the effected parts returns far more rapidly than ever before. The oil had also relieved paralysis, which some poor man had on his left side. Another lady in her 80s reports says the oil is the only thing, which keeps her arthritic knees. There is a lot more to the research covering arthritis including aspects of diet,glands,etc Rheumatoid Arthritis This is a chronic inflammatory condition; it may apparently begin at any time, the usual onset is between 20-40. The symptoms are joint swelling stiffness, warmth tenderness and pain; this can be very debilitating. Cayce gave 19 readings for eleven people with this condition with an age range of 22-72 yrs old. Causes 1. Glandular incordination mentioned in 7 cases and was a major factor .It was the lack of proper hormonal secretions which contributed to problems with the circulation, the blood and calcium levels and the proper absorption of minerals from food. 2. Improper eliminations which would lead to a build up of toxins within the body was sited in 6 cases 3. In four cases spinal misalignment especially in the lower spine which could interfere with the proper nerve impulses action. 4. Poor assimilations were mentioned as a contributing factor in three cases. Treatment 1.Ten people received dietary advice with the emphasis on alkaline reacting foods ¡V raw vegetables such as carrots, cabbage, watercress, celery and lettuce. Served in any combination for one meal a day. Leafy veg was recommended over the pod variety. Strongly advised were food sources, which contained specific minerals such as magnesium, silicon, sulphur and iodine. Avoid of red meats, fried foods, and starches. 2.Nine people were recommended massage with a combination of olive oil and peanut oil with the limbs joints and extremities receiving special attention. 3. Electrotherapy was mentioned in 7 cases where there was evidence of nerve deterioration, the wet cell was to be used to combat this.the violet ray and the radial appliance were also mentioned. 4, Hydrotherapy was mentioned in 5 cases and took the form of Epsom salt baths this was to relax the body and relieve pain. Four people were given instructions for internal doses of atomidine to improve glandular coordination. 5.Gold chloride was mentioned in 4 cases once by itself and with bromide or bicarbonate of soda. This was to help the nervous system. 6.To relieve pain in the joints cayce advised packs of Epsom salts and in two cases castor oil pack and one of glycothymoline. 7.Sedatives were mentioned in three cases in the form of aspirin, cobra venom [to be administered by a doctor versed in this field] and a capsule consisting of eucalyptus, rectified oil of turpentine and benzosal. 8.Kaldak tonic and stimulants for eliminations were also mentioned. 9.Adjustments to the entire spinal column were suggested in four cases. Although not specifically recommended by cayce spiritual/reiki healing has the capacity to be very beneficial in all illnesses- see other pages on this fascinating subject. 12 Spiritual healing, Reiki, find a good healer - but someone you feel an attunement with at a soul level otherwise you can have negative results making your situation worse. We are know witnessing one of the great turnings in our century where old healing practices are re-emerging such as Reiki healing, Colour healing, Seichim, Spiritual healing, Osteopathy, Massage and many others. Some of these are thousands of years old, Spiritual healing is one of those. It is exactly the same kind of energy used by Jesus in so many of his healings. Put simply Spiritual Healing, Reiki is the transference of certain energies through a channel which could be a person or an animal or even the planet, the wavelengths of this healing energy are well outside the limits of most scientific equipment but a lot of people can feel this energy . The energy in my experience has been very uplifting and beautiful which can touch and vastly influence parts of us such as the spirit or soul or our mental selves and our physical selves. It can bring a steadiness and balance and sense of well-being second to none .Its limits as to its use are in the realms of the infinite. A very simplistic analogy would be to liken it to a massive energy reservoir which can be tapped into by people and animals which act as the conduits of this energy and like wires of electricity some of which are bigger than others and so therefore big wires can transmit more energy than smaller wires. Bearing this point in mind the reader can soon appreciate that going to one healer can be vastly different than going to another as it is with so many things whether it be dentists, doctors, policeman or what have you. Spiritual Healing is natural healing energy, which is present in this universe. Spiritual healers work in many different ways to some it is the laying on of hands onto a person or animal, to others it can be sent through the power of thought. To be even in the presence of some healers can have a profound and beneficial effect on people and one wishes that there were more people giving off just as beautiful vibrations as these people were this world would truly transform it One of the most important principles outlined by cayce and others where people are suffering from any condition is to do everything they can to help others in whatever capacity they can. Cayce frequently mentioned that this would bring faster results. This is a great ingredient in helping all people to transmute their own karma. See other pages on this particularly important treatment. Some feedback My healing was major. I have been free of flare-ups for three years at this writing. Because of this level of healing, I know I would not change a thing about what I did! By adhering to Cayce's instructions as closely as possible, I hit on an effective combination of Atomidine, Epsom Salts, and Massage Oils. Though not easy, I consider the problems I encountered to be very minor compared with the benefits Castor Oil Packs & Ice as Needed Daily use of Castor Oil Packs has been shown to dissolve arthritic spurs, but I used them to treat local inflammation. Before consulting with Dr. McGarey, I kept serious inflammation flare-ups under control the same way I had been doing for ten years, with Castor Oil Packs. I also applied ice, sometimes alternating the two with severe flare-ups. Ice alone is sufficient for minor flare-ups. Only once did Cayce recommend Castor Oil Packs for treating arthritis, but they had been extremely helpful, so I continued with them. The worst flare-up I experienced as part of my recovery involved my right hip, much of my pelvic area and my lower back. The pain was excruciating with even the slightest movement, so I only got out of bed to crawl to the bathroom. I was unable to walk for four days. My doctor would very likely have treated me with cortisone shots if I had called him. Cayce says clearly that anti-inflammatory medications are not helpful, and in fact make things worse. I felt cortisone shots would prevent the flare-up from carrying out its corrective purpose. I was right. Day and night for a week, I alternated castor oil packs with ice, noting gradual improvement. The hip not only completely healed, it ceased to trouble me thereafter. The Edgar Cayce arthritis healing methods for me were a resounding success. After only 6 weeks, I noticed a greatly reduced need for toxic anti-inflammatory drugs, and soon eliminated them altogether. Within a few weeks of my conversation with Dr. McGarey, all major symptoms suddenly subsided. The general pain in my body and joints was virtually gone, as were the flare-ups and swelling. I felt deep release from pain and the aggressiveness of the illness, as if the arthritis had been stopped and could not return unless I went back to old habits. Edgar Cayce's remedies gave my body a life and vigor it had not known in more than a decade! I was continuing to heal when I foolishly allowed parts of the program to lapse. Had I followed the Cayce instruction of applying the full program persistently and consistently for a period of time well beyond the cessation of symptoms, I would today be in remission or completely cured. Nevertheless, three years later I remain in a much improved state of health, and completely free of the acute inflammation flare-ups by which I was literally crippled prior to the program. I fully credit Edgar Cayce's miraculous therapies for this dramatic and sustained improvement. Until I applied them seriously, I deteriorated. After I applied them, I improved rapidly. Edgar Cayce's genius gave me back my life. Fuller details can be found in Reba Ann karps book encyclopedia of healing ISBN 0446 30981-8 which gives lots of treatments on all manor of diseases. And the Edgar cayce handbook for health by Harold reilly and Ruth hagy brod Harold had 43 yrs working with the readings Isdn0-02601960- 4 Obtained from the cayce center ARE or the heritage store, Virginia beach Books and remedies can be obtained from Home Health Products to Request a Catalogue or place a Credit Card Order: 1-800-284-9123 The Heritage Store 314 Laskin Road Virginia Beach, VA 23451 To Request a Catalogue or place a Credit Card Order: 1-800-862-2923 For more information about the A.R.E., visit http://www.edgarcayce.org If you are a member of the A.R.E., you can purchase or borrow a set of Cayce's readings by calling 1-800-333-4499 USA Or the Edgar Cayce centre up in Durham 13 prospect terrace, new stanley, CO Durham, England DH9 7TR 01207 237696 ask for one of the circulating files on arthritis Research from the meridian institute Meridian Institute, 1853 Old Donation Parkway, Suite 1 Virginia Beach, VA 23454 (757) 496-6009 Ran by a team of doctors the meridian institute carried out a brief study on a few of the cayce treatments including Arthritis, a brief summary is here for fuller details please contact them or their website meridianinstitute.com/ Seven individuals participated in a 10-day live-in instructional/treatment program in November 1998, in which they were taught the elements of the Edgar Cayce therapies for arthritis. One person had rheumatoid arthritis, and six had osteoarthritis. Rheumatoid arthritis is characterized by inflammatory changes in the synovial membranes of the joints and the areas around the joints and by atrophy and rarification of the bones. In osteoarthritis there is generally no inflammation and no spreading or migratory type of joint involvement. Rather than a loss of calcium, there is a calcium build-up. The project explicitly did not require participants to change their current therapies or medications. The principal therapies included dietary changes, massage, Atomidine (an iodine supplement), and Epsom salts baths. The participants then returned home to continue these therapies for six months, submitting daily logs of compliance with the protocol. Arthritis symptoms were evaluated at the beginning of the program and after six months. Four of the seven people returned for the six- month follow-up in May 1999. One was unable to attend the April session, and returned in November. Another responded to a questionnaire by mail, and one person dropped out of the study. Of the six participants who submitted information, three had excellent compliance with the protocol. One felt ¡§much improved,¡¨ and two felt ¡§improved.¡¨ Other interesting feedback According to Reba Ann karps book DR Charles Lucas chief of endocrinology and metabolism at Harper grace hospitals Detroit has reported that a diet low in animal fats will ease rheumatoid arthritis pain.with some of his patients reporting that that pain and stiffness nearly disappeared and swelling in joints reduced remarkably. Further substantiating cayce is a study done by the Department of medicine at Wayne State University Detroit Michigan in that fat free diets have been found to produce complete remissions in six patients with rheumatoid arthritis. Bee venom was mentioned by cayce and in the UK experiments have isolated an anti-inflammatory agent within the venom. In the US it has also been found that injecting bee venom into the painful joints activates natural cortisone production in the bones thus relieving the pain of arthritis. Treatment of Arthritis with Rife machine About Royal Raymond Rife Royal Raymond Rife was an inventor and genius who won scientist of the year awards twice. He started looking for a cancer cure in 1920. By 1934 he cured 16 out of 16 (100% success) cancer patients in his clinic, every one within 3 months. What he invented first was a microscope that used prisms and various light types other than white and was so powerful he could watch viruses alive and experiment on them without destroying them in the process. In Australia, a serious placebo (sometimes called double blind) study was made to demonstrate the effectiveness of using audio frequency therapy in the treatment of arthritis using a prototype of the PET Rife-Crane unit. Behind this study is, amongst others, Geoff Baker (B.App. Sci) who spent years of his life and millions of dollars studying and perfecting his PET device. In order to achieve medical approval for the sale of the PET unit in Australia, this Placebo study was made under scientifically controlled circumstances. The Study results suggest that „h Audio Frequency Therapy is highly effective in the treatment of Osteo and Rheumatoid Arthritis. After 36 three-hour treatment sessions of Audio Frequency Therapy, the net mean overall improvement in the arthritic condition of treated volunteers (irrespective of type of arthritis suffered) was approximately 25 percent „h Continued reduction of pain levels under the extended treatment sessions administered to Group C (72 three hour treatment sessions, fig 4) suggest that the benefits of Audio Frequency Therapy are cumulative and in proportion to the number of treatment sessions a patient undergoes. „h Extrapolation of the mean improvement rate of all treated volunteers in considering the " worst case " situation suggests that it may be possible to completely eliminate many Arthritis signs and symptoms in any sufferer of Osteo or Rheumatoid Arthritis in less than twelve months with an AFTU treatment program of three, three hour sessions per week. „h Frequency Therapy may relieve all arthritis symptoms permanently. This may be possible if the underlying causative factors are also dealt with and the patient is given time to heal. A cleansing dietary regimen would be considered essential in all cases. „h Audio Frequency Therapy may relieve pain, swelling and inflammation in all arthritis affected areas, but will leave pain in joints which have suffered major degeneration I.e. moderate to complete breakdown of articular cartilage leaving exposed bone. „h No significant adverse side effects may be expected within the short term i.e. less than 12 months (based on clinical experience) if the above treatment protocol is adhered to and the Audio Frequency Therapy Unit operation manual closely followed. The study was initiated by a private company, BWBGELTECH PTY LTD seeking assistance from an arthritis support organisation, interested doctors, and a commercial laboratory. Placebo study conditions were strictly adhered to, with no volunteer being aware of whether he or she was receiving treatment. Three treatments per week of three hours duration were administered using thirty-four Audio Frequency Therapy Units. These pocket sized computerised devices allowed carefully selected menus of frequency programs to be applied to each chosen volunteer. All participants were regularly monitored by self-evaluation of pain on visual analogue scales, which complied with a standard hospital protocol for monitoring pain in arthritis patients. Also pre and post study HLB testing was provided by Australian Biologics Testing Services (Sydney) for seven randomly selected volunteers from the treated and placebo groups. Similarly, independent post-study appraisal of each volunteer's condition by their referring General Practitioner was requested. On completion of the study, the mean value of percentage reduction in overall pain (of the treated group was 34 percent compared with 13 percent reduction in the untreated group (The mean 13 percent reduction of pain in the untreated volunteers was generally attributable to the emotional benefits received by being involved in the study. This improvement was not evidenced in the blood test results. Long term side effects are unknown but may be similar in nature to TENS therapy. Continuous treatment with Audio Frequency Therapy Units over twelve months is not recommended. After this study was complete, Geoff Baker formed Electromed to build and market a commercial version of the Audio Frequency Therapy unit described here. The commercial version is called PET and it is described on the electromed web site There is a wealth of testimonies on the rife forum website which testify to the effectiveness of this treatment http://www.rife.de/ phill In , " Sarah B " <sabb2 wrote: > > Hi everyone > This is my first post here, I have really found all the information interesting and everyone so caring, it's a great group. > > My main interests are in aromatherapy, reiki, yoga and nutrition. I'm not a qualified therapist but am always reading about these and other subjects and I use much of what I've learnt for myself and my family. > > I would appreciate any comments anyone would like to make on the subject of arthritis...my Mum has been suffering for many years, mainly in her hands, and has decided to make a big effort to tackle the problem. She is planning to change her diet, at least to give it a go for 3 months or more, and I wonder if anyone has any additional suggestions or comments on her approach: > > For a start she'll be taking cider vinegar and honey 3 times a day, as well as molasses and a multivitamin/mineral supplement. > > She's cutting out dairy products, except for cottage cheese (would goats' cheese be ok I wonder?). Also citrus fruits, strawberries, gooseberries, rhubarb and pineapple, all red meats, ham, bacon etc, salt, refined sugar and flour products, alcohol, caffeine, and tomatoes. > > These are the main rules. I think she's also planning to take some epsom salt baths, although she has tried these before and found the subsequent sweating exhausting. (I don't know much about this). > > Many thanks for any recommendations or tips. > Blessings > Sarah > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2006 Report Share Posted May 27, 2006 I use Bromelain Tablets for my ankles.You need to take from 500 to 1000 mg. on an empty stomach.It seems to work slightly the first time and the longer you take it the more the better it works.I got the arthritis from a bad sprain with all the ligemants torn in my ankle.It took 4 months before I could put weight on that ankle.The joints are still in bad shape and I found the longer I take the Bromelain Tablets the less pain I have.I am now able to take only 500 mg first thing in the morning before I eat.It only works if you take it on an empty stomach.Pinapple or juice won't work.Guess it has to do with the sugar. "Louise" <magoo5396herbal remedies To: herbal remedies Subject: Herbal Remedies - ArthritisThu, 25 May 2006 22:28:41 -0000Hi I have ostoarthristis in both my knees and the right one is worse than the left any one know of any remedy that I might try. Thanks LouiseFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2006 Report Share Posted May 27, 2006 I usually don't post and do a lot of reading and filling info since I have joined the goup, but this is so intereting since I have arthritis since I have been in my early 30's and now almost 60. I have done many things including working out/ watching my weight and food that I eat, and taking herbs including Glucosamine-Chondroitin and MSM for several years now. My questions is: who does have a proven combonation that has helped them in them and how much do you take daily of the herbs, and in what form do you take. Any help will sure help me a lot since this is something I have been dealing with over the past years and would love to find something that really does help. Thanks for anyone that can help. desperate in Pa. Have a great weekend!! Donna There are many ways to approach osteoarthritis and what works for one may not work for another. For yrs the I believe that Glucosamine-Chondroitin and MSM have been used. I read recently about Selenium being very good and Devils Claw is good for joints. Other things used are Yucca, Boswellia and Bromelain. I think you have to come up with the combo that works for you Patt "You can lead a man to knowledge,but you can't make him think " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2006 Report Share Posted May 27, 2006 THIS STUFF IS AWESOME! I wouldn't be without it in my cabinet. herbal remedies , " olm " <olmtrader1 wrote: > > yes i and some firneds have had good luck w a chinese topical solution > called..get this...zheng gu shui.......it is dirt cheap and i had a friend > who is a hedge fund mgr..so he is real well heeled and his wife has > artritic knees and she tried it and she swears by it...she told me tht it > was the first time her knees didnt hurt in like 15 years.....wht else can i > say.. > olm > > > - > " Louise " <magoo5396 > <herbal remedies > > Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:28 PM > Herbal Remedies - Arthritis > > > > Hi I have ostoarthristis in both my knees and the right one is worse > > than the left any one know of any remedy that I might try. Thanks > > Louise > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural > > remedy. > > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and > > to > > prescribe for your own health. > > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long > > as > > they behave themselves. > > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any > > person > > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from > > list members, you are agreeing to > > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and > > members free of any liability. > > > > Dr. Ian Shillington > > Doctor of Naturopathy > > Dr.IanShillington > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 In a message dated 5/28/2006 2:39:55 P.M. Central Standard Time, eddonna writes: I usually don't post and do a lot of reading and filling info since I have joined the goup, but this is so intereting since I have arthritis since I have been in my early 30's and now almost 60. I have done many things including working out/ watching my weight and food that I eat, and taking herbs including Glucosamine-Chondroitin and MSM for several years now. My questions is: who does have a proven combonation that has helped them in them and how much do you take daily of the herbs, and in what form do you take. Any help will sure help me a lot since this is something I have been dealing with over the past years and would love to find something that really does help. Thanks for anyone that can help. desperate in Pa. Dear Donna, I am not sure about herbs but I have a friend who had Rheumatoid Arthritis in her early 30s. she took several meds and at times had to be literally carried in for shots. It also affected her breathing and had frequent eye problems. she decided she didn't want to spent the rest of her life like this so she made radical diet changes. She gave up meat and diary and juiced carrots everyday and put a barley green type product in each juice. Today she is 51, looks like she's in her mid 30s, works as a server in an upscale restaurant, doesn't take any meds and works circles around all of us. I have known her thru all of this and I am amazed. She says her only complaint is that if she doesn't drink enough water, her hip hurts like the old days. Edith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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