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Dear Members

 

Lets assume,in a Horary analysis, planet A is the sublord of VII cusp.

Its(A) star and/or sub lord happen to be the sub lord and/or star lord

of II and XI cusps. In this case as per the Cuspal interlink method ,

it is said the marriage is favorable.

 

At the same time if the star and sub lord of the A is signifying, as

per KP by its occupancy and or ownership , 1,6,10,4 for instance,

then what will be the result?

 

Also The star lord of the Sub lord of the DB happen to be the A or its

star lord.

 

Hence a planet, just being interlinked with the cuspal star and sub,

is signfying the cusps, even if it is denoting unfavoarble

significators through its star and sub lord position and or ownership

as per KP?

 

Can you throw some light on this and clarify?

 

With Regards

Adith

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Dear Adith ji,We should discuss on actual charts and not on hypothetical situation. Would appreciate if you can share some chart(s), where you found this situation. Assuming that you have taken this condition from the real charts, here are some of the pointers that we discussed in the past and can be relevant for the topic under discussion -

1. There are some KP astrologers who take sub lord of a cusp as significator for that house, if there is no planet in its nakshatra. 2. In KP there is 5th level significators (grade E), we should always consider them. Grade E significators are the singificators who aspect grade A-D significators.

3. Some KP astrologers consider 8th house as well in the house grouping for marriage. We had discussion on all these three points in the past in this forum and you can refer to the forum archive for more information.

Thanks & Regards,Punit PandeyOn Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 4:45 PM, gkadithkasinath <gkadithkasinath wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Members

 

Lets assume,in a Horary analysis, planet A is the sublord of VII cusp.

Its(A) star and/or sub lord happen to be the sub lord and/or star lord

of II and XI cusps. In this case as per the Cuspal interlink method ,

it is said the marriage is favorable.

 

At the same time if the star and sub lord of the A is signifying, as

per KP by its occupancy and or ownership , 1,6,10,4 for instance,

then what will be the result?

 

Also The star lord of the Sub lord of the DB happen to be the A or its

star lord.

 

Hence a planet, just being interlinked with the cuspal star and sub,

is signfying the cusps, even if it is denoting unfavoarble

significators through its star and sub lord position and or ownership

as per KP?

 

Can you throw some light on this and clarify?

 

With Regards

Adith

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Dear Adith

There are two type of interlinks. One is KP and other is KB. I am convinced with KP interlink.

The planet will give what the starlord gives. This everyone knows. The planet will also give the result of the houses whose cuspal starlord and cuspal sublord has connection with planet starlord. This is KP and not KB. I have taken it from Mr.Sethunathan's book. It is reliable.

Example

Planet Jupiter is in Venus star. Generally what we say? Jupiter will give the result of Venus.

II Cusp Venus star-Ketu sub

VII Cusp Saturn star-Venus sub

XI Cusp Venus star-Rahu sub

 

Here, Jupiter's starlord Venus has connection with II, VII and XI houses. In the Jupiter period, marriage may materialised.

Dhanabalan--- On Tue, 2/3/09, gkadithkasinath <gkadithkasinath wrote:

gkadithkasinath <gkadithkasinath Sub lord of a cusp is a significator of that cusp? Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 11:15 AM

 

 

Dear MembersLets assume,in a Horary analysis, planet A is the sublord of VII cusp.Its(A) star and/or sub lord happen to be the sub lord and/or star lordof II and XI cusps. In this case as per the Cuspal interlink method ,it is said the marriage is favorable.At the same time if the star and sub lord of the A is signifying, asper KP by its occupancy and or ownership , 1,6,10,4 for instance,then what will be the result?Also The star lord of the Sub lord of the DB happen to be the A or itsstar lord.Hence a planet, just being interlinked with the cuspal star and sub,is signfying the cusps, even if it is denoting unfavoarblesignificators through its star and sub lord position and or ownershipas per KP?Can you throw some light on this and clarify?With RegardsAdith

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Dear Adith Ji

 

Namaskaram

 

In may Opinion or say guess that Planet A Belongs to partner (7th SubLord) and it Signifying 2cusp and 9cusp if you see in the chart 2H is 8th from 7H and in that same manner 9H is 3rd from 7th but 8th from 2H which means 8th and again 8th angle which also means one is going to quit from Salary.

 

" At the same time if the star and sub lord of the A is signifying, asper KP by its occupancy and or ownership , 1,6,10,4 for instance,then what will be the result? "

 

In the above matter you can see 1,6,10,4 here means From the angle of 7H it is 7,12,4,10. Here again it is clear the matter as stated above.

 

" Mano To Bohut Kuchh, Na Mano To Aap Ki Marzee "

 

Thanks

 

Tem Pram Chopra

On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 4:45 PM, gkadithkasinath <gkadithkasinath wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear MembersLets assume,in a Horary analysis, planet A is the sublord of VII cusp.Its(A) star and/or sub lord happen to be the sub lord and/or star lordof II and XI cusps. In this case as per the Cuspal interlink method ,

it is said the marriage is favorable.At the same time if the star and sub lord of the A is signifying, asper KP by its occupancy and or ownership , 1,6,10,4 for instance,then what will be the result?

Also The star lord of the Sub lord of the DB happen to be the A or itsstar lord.Hence a planet, just being interlinked with the cuspal star and sub,is signfying the cusps, even if it is denoting unfavoarble

significators through its star and sub lord position and or ownershipas per KP?Can you throw some light on this and clarify?With RegardsAdith

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Dear Punit ji,Thank you so much for your reply.I do understand your points.I shall come back on this with a sample chart in future, which will be better as you rightly said.I obey your words. Also noted that similar discussions happened in earlier threads before I joined. I shall go through the form archives. It will be more grateful if you could provide me the ref# IF POSSIBLE, it will be more easier for me.Or I shall have a search.

With RegardsAdithOn Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:

 

 

 

 

Dear Adith ji,We should discuss on actual charts and not on hypothetical situation. Would appreciate if you can share some chart(s), where you found this situation. Assuming that you have taken this condition from the real charts, here are some of the pointers that we discussed in the past and can be relevant for the topic under discussion -

1. There are some KP astrologers who take sub lord of a cusp as significator for that house, if there is no planet in its nakshatra. 2. In KP there is 5th level significators (grade E), we should always consider them. Grade E significators are the singificators who aspect grade A-D significators.

3. Some KP astrologers consider 8th house as well in the house grouping for marriage. We had discussion on all these three points in the past in this forum and you can refer to the forum archive for more information.

Thanks & Regards,Punit PandeyOn Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 4:45 PM, gkadithkasinath <gkadithkasinath wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Members

 

Lets assume,in a Horary analysis, planet A is the sublord of VII cusp.

Its(A) star and/or sub lord happen to be the sub lord and/or star lord

of II and XI cusps. In this case as per the Cuspal interlink method ,

it is said the marriage is favorable.

 

At the same time if the star and sub lord of the A is signifying, as

per KP by its occupancy and or ownership , 1,6,10,4 for instance,

then what will be the result?

 

Also The star lord of the Sub lord of the DB happen to be the A or its

star lord.

 

Hence a planet, just being interlinked with the cuspal star and sub,

is signfying the cusps, even if it is denoting unfavoarble

significators through its star and sub lord position and or ownership

as per KP?

 

Can you throw some light on this and clarify?

 

With Regards

Adith

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Dear Dhanapalan,Thank you so much for your reply and explanation.I actually raised the question on the basis of KB only which I did not want to mention the name.But your answer says that such interlinks are also prevailing in our KP also as per Mr.Sethunathan's book. Thanks.

In your example given, in case the Venus is not the significators of 2,7,11 stellar wise but having the connection with the cusps of 2,7,11 as you have given ,then will Jupiter give the combined results of both?Your explanation will be more appreciated.

Thanks and RegardsAdith On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Adith

There are two type of interlinks. One is KP and other is KB. I am convinced with KP interlink.

The planet will give what the starlord gives. This everyone knows. The planet will also give the result of the houses whose cuspal starlord and cuspal sublord has connection with planet starlord. This is KP and not KB. I have taken it from Mr.Sethunathan's book. It is reliable.

Example

Planet Jupiter is in Venus star. Generally what we say? Jupiter will give the result of Venus.

II Cusp Venus star-Ketu sub

VII Cusp Saturn star-Venus sub

XI Cusp Venus star-Rahu sub

 

Here, Jupiter's starlord Venus has connection with II, VII and XI houses. In the Jupiter period, marriage may materialised.

Dhanabalan--- On Tue, 2/3/09, gkadithkasinath <gkadithkasinath wrote:

gkadithkasinath <gkadithkasinath Sub lord of a cusp is a significator of that cusp?

Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 11:15 AM

 

 

Dear MembersLets assume,in a Horary analysis, planet A is the sublord of VII cusp.Its(A) star and/or sub lord happen to be the sub lord and/or star lordof II and XI cusps. In this case as per the Cuspal interlink method ,

it is said the marriage is favorable.At the same time if the star and sub lord of the A is signifying, asper KP by its occupancy and or ownership , 1,6,10,4 for instance,then what will be the result?

Also The star lord of the Sub lord of the DB happen to be the A or itsstar lord.Hence a planet, just being interlinked with the cuspal star and sub,is signfying the cusps, even if it is denoting unfavoarble

significators through its star and sub lord position and or ownershipas per KP?Can you throw some light on this and clarify?With RegardsAdith

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Good example taken and very well explained in a simplified manner, easy

to understand.

 

Thanks and regards,

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan

wrote:

>

> Dear Adith

> There are two type of interlinks. One is KP and other is KB. I am

convinced with KP interlink.

> The planet will give what the starlord gives. This everyone knows. The

planet will also give the result of the houses whose cuspal starlord and

cuspal sublord has connection with planet starlord. This is KP and not

KB. I have taken it from Mr.Sethunathan's book. It is reliable.

> Example

> Planet Jupiter is in Venus star. Generally what we say? Jupiter will

give the result of Venus.

> II Cusp Venus star-Ketu sub

> VII Cusp Saturn star-Venus sub

> XI Cusp Venus star-Rahu sub

>

> Here, Jupiter's starlord Venus has connection with II, VII and XI

houses. In the Jupiter period, marriage may materialised.

> Dhanabalan

>

> --- On Tue, 2/3/09, gkadithkasinath gkadithkasinath wrote:

>

> gkadithkasinath gkadithkasinath

> Sub lord of a cusp is a significator of that

cusp?

>

> Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 11:15 AM

Dear Members

>

> Lets assume,in a Horary analysis, planet A is the sublord of VII cusp.

> Its(A) star and/or sub lord happen to be the sub lord and/or star lord

> of II and XI cusps. In this case as per the Cuspal interlink method ,

> it is said the marriage is favorable.

>

> At the same time if the star and sub lord of the A is signifying, as

> per KP by its occupancy and or ownership , 1,6,10,4 for instance,

> then what will be the result?

>

> Also The star lord of the Sub lord of the DB happen to be the A or its

> star lord.

>

> Hence a planet, just being interlinked with the cuspal star and sub,

> is signfying the cusps, even if it is denoting unfavoarble

> significators through its star and sub lord position and or ownership

> as per KP?

>

> Can you throw some light on this and clarify?

>

> With Regards

> Adith

>

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Dear Dhanabalan ji,This sounds like an interesting idea and we should test it by practical application. Though, in my opinion, this can not be called 'KP Interlinks' because it contradicts a basic teaching of KP. In KP, though cuspal nakshatra and sub lord are used extensively, they have not assigned signification of house. In your example, you have used cuspal nakshatra lord and cuspal sub lord for the selection of singificators for marriage. To keep it simple and avoid confusion, let us call it 'Sethunathan's Interlinks' or 'SN Interlinks', if we wan to give it some fancy name to this theory like KP, KB etc :-)

Thanks & Regards,Punit PandeyOn Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Adith

There are two type of interlinks. One is KP and other is KB. I am convinced with KP interlink.

The planet will give what the starlord gives. This everyone knows. The planet will also give the result of the houses whose cuspal starlord and cuspal sublord has connection with planet starlord. This is KP and not KB. I have taken it from Mr.Sethunathan's book. It is reliable.

Example

Planet Jupiter is in Venus star. Generally what we say? Jupiter will give the result of Venus.

II Cusp Venus star-Ketu sub

VII Cusp Saturn star-Venus sub

XI Cusp Venus star-Rahu sub

 

Here, Jupiter's starlord Venus has connection with II, VII and XI houses. In the Jupiter period, marriage may materialised.

Dhanabalan--- On Tue, 2/3/09, gkadithkasinath <gkadithkasinath wrote:

gkadithkasinath <gkadithkasinath Sub lord of a cusp is a significator of that cusp?

Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 11:15 AM

 

 

Dear MembersLets assume,in a Horary analysis, planet A is the sublord of VII cusp.Its(A) star and/or sub lord happen to be the sub lord and/or star lordof II and XI cusps. In this case as per the Cuspal interlink method ,

it is said the marriage is favorable.At the same time if the star and sub lord of the A is signifying, asper KP by its occupancy and or ownership , 1,6,10,4 for instance,then what will be the result?

Also The star lord of the Sub lord of the DB happen to be the A or itsstar lord.Hence a planet, just being interlinked with the cuspal star and sub,is signfying the cusps, even if it is denoting unfavoarble

significators through its star and sub lord position and or ownershipas per KP?Can you throw some light on this and clarify?With RegardsAdith

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dear kasinath

Please stick to ne and only one method, do not mixup and get confused

If you are following KP then for mariage the PLANET to be considered is 7 th sub lord only

 

If it signifies 7,2,or 11 then answer is Yes. Do not mixup Cuspal method with KP

 

raichur anant --- On Tue, 3/2/09, gkadithkasinath <gkadithkasinath wrote:

gkadithkasinath <gkadithkasinath Sub lord of a cusp is a significator of that cusp? Date: Tuesday, 3 February, 2009, 4:45 PMDear Members

Lets assume,in a Horary analysis, planet A is the sublord of VII cusp.

Its(A) star and/or sub lord happen to be the sub lord and/or star lord

of II and XI cusps. In this case as per the Cuspal interlink method ,

it is said the marriage is favorable.

At the same time if the star and sub lord of the A is signifying, as

per KP by its occupancy and or ownership , 1,6,10,4 for instance,

then what will be the result?

Also The star lord of the Sub lord of the DB happen to be the A or its

star lord.

Hence a planet, just being interlinked with the cuspal star and sub,

is signfying the cusps, even if it is denoting unfavoarble

significators through its star and sub lord position and or ownership

as per KP?

Can you throw some light on this and clarify?

With Regards

Adith

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Dear Punit Pandey

It is not Mr.Sethunathan's concept. It is the concept of Mr.KSK. This type of interlinks are available in KP Readers then and there. I will give you reference from KP Readers.

All are aware that Mr.M.Gopalakrishna Nair, KP stalwart. He has written an article "Kalachakra Dasa System and Stellar Astrology". At the end of the article, he explained the KP principle in a simplified way as "The fundamental principle of Prof.Krishnamurthi's stellar theory, which has revolutionized Indian astrology, is that a planet, in its period (and also during its transit) invoked primarily the results of the constellation in which it is posited, according to the Bhava occupied by the constellation lord and the Bhava(s) and the cuspal constellation owned by it." Mr.M.G.Nair has written many articles based on the above concept. These articles may be available in Astrology and Athirsta.Dhanabalan--- On Wed, 2/4/09, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitpRe: Sub lord of a cusp is a significator of that cusp? Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 5:42 AM

 

 

Dear Dhanabalan ji,This sounds like an interesting idea and we should test it by practical application. Though, in my opinion, this can not be called 'KP Interlinks' because it contradicts a basic teaching of KP. In KP, though cuspal nakshatra and sub lord are used extensively, they have not assigned signification of house. In your example, you have used cuspal nakshatra lord and cuspal sub lord for the selection of singificators for marriage. To keep it simple and avoid confusion, let us call it 'Sethunathan's Interlinks' or 'SN Interlinks', if we wan to give it some fancy name to this theory like KP, KB etc :-)Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Adith

There are two type of interlinks. One is KP and other is KB. I am convinced with KP interlink.

The planet will give what the starlord gives. This everyone knows. The planet will also give the result of the houses whose cuspal starlord and cuspal sublord has connection with planet starlord. This is KP and not KB. I have taken it from Mr.Sethunathan's book. It is reliable.

Example

Planet Jupiter is in Venus star. Generally what we say? Jupiter will give the result of Venus.

II Cusp Venus star-Ketu sub

VII Cusp Saturn star-Venus sub

XI Cusp Venus star-Rahu sub

 

Here, Jupiter's starlord Venus has connection with II, VII and XI houses. In the Jupiter period, marriage may materialised.

Dhanabalan--- On Tue, 2/3/09, gkadithkasinath <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote:

gkadithkasinath <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> Sub lord of a cusp is a significator of that cusp?@gro ups.comTuesday, February 3, 2009, 11:15 AM

 

 

 

Dear MembersLets assume,in a Horary analysis, planet A is the sublord of VII cusp.Its(A) star and/or sub lord happen to be the sub lord and/or star lordof II and XI cusps. In this case as per the Cuspal interlink method ,it is said the marriage is favorable.At the same time if the star and sub lord of the A is signifying, asper KP by its occupancy and or ownership , 1,6,10,4 for instance,then what will be the result?Also The star lord of the Sub lord of the DB happen to be the A or itsstar lord.Hence a planet, just being interlinked with the cuspal star and sub,is signfying the cusps, even if it is denoting unfavoarblesignificators through its star and sub lord position and or ownershipas per KP?Can you throw some light on this and clarify?With RegardsAdith

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Dear Adith

When I had written to Dr kar for rectification of BTR, he had explained the significations of an event by taking house lord, starlord and sublord along with planets planets posited in their stars. e.g.2 7 11are for marriage. in my case 7th cusp is at 26-23 in taurus.So ven mars rah are the significators along with planets in their stars. So cuspal lord, star lord and sublord are significatos. If u like I can send a scan of his letter

Regards

Sujata--- On Tue, 3/2/09, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath wrote:

adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinathRe: Sub lord of a cusp is a significator of that cusp? Date: Tuesday, 3 February, 2009, 10:08 PM

 

 

Dear Dhanapalan,Thank you so much for your reply and explanation.I actually raised the question on the basis of KB only which I did not want to mention the name.But your answer says that such interlinks are also prevailing in our KP also as per Mr.Sethunathan's book. Thanks.In your example given, in case the Venus is not the significators of 2,7,11 stellar wise but having the connection with the cusps of 2,7,11 as you have given ,then will Jupiter give the combined results of both?Your explanation will be more appreciated.Thanks and RegardsAdith

On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Adith

There are two type of interlinks. One is KP and other is KB. I am convinced with KP interlink.

The planet will give what the starlord gives. This everyone knows. The planet will also give the result of the houses whose cuspal starlord and cuspal sublord has connection with planet starlord. This is KP and not KB. I have taken it from Mr.Sethunathan's book. It is reliable.

Example

Planet Jupiter is in Venus star. Generally what we say? Jupiter will give the result of Venus.

II Cusp Venus star-Ketu sub

VII Cusp Saturn star-Venus sub

XI Cusp Venus star-Rahu sub

 

Here, Jupiter's starlord Venus has connection with II, VII and XI houses. In the Jupiter period, marriage may materialised.

Dhanabalan--- On Tue, 2/3/09, gkadithkasinath <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote:

gkadithkasinath <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> Sub lord of a cusp is a significator of that cusp?@gro ups.comTuesday, February 3, 2009, 11:15 AM

 

 

 

Dear MembersLets assume,in a Horary analysis, planet A is the sublord of VII cusp.Its(A) star and/or sub lord happen to be the sub lord and/or star lordof II and XI cusps. In this case as per the Cuspal interlink method ,it is said the marriage is favorable.At the same time if the star and sub lord of the A is signifying, asper KP by its occupancy and or ownership , 1,6,10,4 for instance,then what will be the result?Also The star lord of the Sub lord of the DB happen to be the A or itsstar lord.Hence a planet, just being interlinked with the cuspal star and sub,is signfying the cusps, even if it is denoting unfavoarblesignificators through its star and sub lord position and or ownershipas per KP?Can you throw some light on this and clarify?With RegardsAdith

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Dear Sujata das

Mr.KSK said that 10th cuspal signlord, cuspal starlord, cuspal sublord and the planets close to the 10th cusp will give the profession. It seems Dr.Kar has gone one step further(within the KP principle) and included the planets in their stars.Dhanabalan--- On Wed, 2/4/09, sujata das <sujatadash1 wrote:

sujata das <sujatadash1Re: Sub lord of a cusp is a significator of that cusp? Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 7:10 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Adith

When I had written to Dr kar for rectification of BTR, he had explained the significations of an event by taking house lord, starlord and sublord along with planets planets posited in their stars. e.g.2 7 11are for marriage. in my case 7th cusp is at 26-23 in taurus.So ven mars rah are the significators along with planets in their stars. So cuspal lord, star lord and sublord are significatos. If u like I can send a scan of his letter

Regards

Sujata--- On Tue, 3/2/09, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote:

adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>Re: Sub lord of a cusp is a significator of that cusp?@gro ups.comTuesday, 3 February, 2009, 10:08 PM

 

 

Dear Dhanapalan,Thank you so much for your reply and explanation.I actually raised the question on the basis of KB only which I did not want to mention the name.But your answer says that such interlinks are also prevailing in our KP also as per Mr.Sethunathan' s book. Thanks.In your example given, in case the Venus is not the significators of 2,7,11 stellar wise but having the connection with the cusps of 2,7,11 as you have given ,then will Jupiter give the combined results of both?Your explanation will be more appreciated.Thanks and RegardsAdith

On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Adith

There are two type of interlinks. One is KP and other is KB. I am convinced with KP interlink.

The planet will give what the starlord gives. This everyone knows. The planet will also give the result of the houses whose cuspal starlord and cuspal sublord has connection with planet starlord. This is KP and not KB. I have taken it from Mr.Sethunathan' s book. It is reliable.

Example

Planet Jupiter is in Venus star. Generally what we say? Jupiter will give the result of Venus.

II Cusp Venus star-Ketu sub

VII Cusp Saturn star-Venus sub

XI Cusp Venus star-Rahu sub

 

Here, Jupiter's starlord Venus has connection with II, VII and XI houses. In the Jupiter period, marriage may materialised.

Dhanabalan--- On Tue, 2/3/09, gkadithkasinath <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote:

gkadithkasinath <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> Sub lord of a cusp is a significator of that cusp?@gro ups.comTuesday, February 3, 2009, 11:15 AM

 

 

Dear MembersLets assume,in a Horary analysis, planet A is the sublord of VII cusp.Its(A) star and/or sub lord happen to be the sub lord and/or star lordof II and XI cusps. In this case as per the Cuspal interlink method ,it is said the marriage is favorable.At the same time if the star and sub lord of the A is signifying, asper KP by its occupancy and or ownership , 1,6,10,4 for instance,then what will be the result?Also The star lord of the Sub lord of the DB happen to be the A or itsstar lord.Hence a planet, just being interlinked with the cuspal star and sub,is signfying the cusps, even if it is denoting unfavoarblesignificators through its star and sub lord position and or ownershipas per KP?Can you throw some light on this and clarify?With RegardsAdith

 

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Dear Sujatha ji,Thank you for your reply.I will be obliged if I could get the copy of the same.Thanks and RegardsAdithOn Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 12:40 PM, sujata das <sujatadash1 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Adith

When I had written to Dr kar for rectification of BTR, he had explained the significations of an event by taking house lord, starlord and sublord along with planets planets posited in their stars. e.g.2 7 11are for marriage. in my case 7th cusp is at 26-23 in taurus.So ven mars rah are the significators along with planets in their stars. So cuspal lord, star lord and sublord are significatos. If u like I can send a scan of his letter

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Sujata--- On Tue, 3/2/09, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath wrote:

adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinathRe: Sub lord of a cusp is a significator of that cusp?

Date: Tuesday, 3 February, 2009, 10:08 PM

 

 

Dear Dhanapalan,Thank you so much for your reply and explanation.I actually raised the question on the basis of KB only which I did not want to mention the name.But your answer says that such interlinks are also prevailing in our KP also as per Mr.Sethunathan's book. Thanks.

In your example given, in case the Venus is not the significators of 2,7,11 stellar wise but having the connection with the cusps of 2,7,11 as you have given ,then will Jupiter give the combined results of both?Your explanation will be more appreciated.

Thanks and RegardsAdith

On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Adith

There are two type of interlinks. One is KP and other is KB. I am convinced with KP interlink.

The planet will give what the starlord gives. This everyone knows. The planet will also give the result of the houses whose cuspal starlord and cuspal sublord has connection with planet starlord. This is KP and not KB. I have taken it from Mr.Sethunathan's book. It is reliable.

Example

Planet Jupiter is in Venus star. Generally what we say? Jupiter will give the result of Venus.

II Cusp Venus star-Ketu sub

VII Cusp Saturn star-Venus sub

XI Cusp Venus star-Rahu sub

 

Here, Jupiter's starlord Venus has connection with II, VII and XI houses. In the Jupiter period, marriage may materialised.

Dhanabalan--- On Tue, 2/3/09, gkadithkasinath <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote:

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Sub lord of a cusp is a significator of that cusp?@gro ups.comTuesday, February 3, 2009, 11:15 AM

 

 

 

Dear MembersLets assume,in a Horary analysis, planet A is the sublord of VII cusp.Its(A) star and/or sub lord happen to be the sub lord and/or star lordof II and XI cusps. In this case as per the Cuspal interlink method ,

it is said the marriage is favorable.At the same time if the star and sub lord of the A is signifying, asper KP by its occupancy and or ownership , 1,6,10,4 for instance,then what will be the result?

Also The star lord of the Sub lord of the DB happen to be the A or itsstar lord.Hence a planet, just being interlinked with the cuspal star and sub,is signfying the cusps, even if it is denoting unfavoarble

significators through its star and sub lord position and or ownershipas per KP?Can you throw some light on this and clarify?With RegardsAdith

 

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Dear Mr.Dhanbalan,May I know whethe Jupiter in the star of Venus(which appears as star or sub of of 2/7/11) has to be in the SUB of a planet which is occupant or sign lord or star lord or sub lord of cusps 2/7/11 so that it can give marriage during its period?V.Krishnamurty

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Dear Krishnamurti

Planetary starlord and sublord may or may not indicate marriage. But if the planetary starlord has connection with 2,7,11 cusps through cuspal starlord and cuspal sublord, it should give marriage. It has to be studied further through birth charts. For twins, planetary starlord and sublord are same but there is a change in cuspal sublord and cuspal subsublord. For the same dasa bukthi, the results will be different for twins.Dhanabalan

--- On Wed, 2/4/09, krishnamurti vangapandu <kvangapandu wrote:

krishnamurti vangapandu <kvangapandu Re: Sub lord of a cusp is a significator of that cusp? Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 3:25 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Mr.Dhanbalan,May I know whethe Jupiter in the star of Venus(which appears as star or sub of of 2/7/11) has to be in the SUB of a planet which is occupant or sign lord or star lord or sub lord of cusps 2/7/11 so that it can give marriage during its period?V.Krishnamurty

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Dear Nr.Krishnamurty,Certainly ! Though the star lord is favoring, the sub is the deciding factor. Hence sub lord of Jupiter should be favoring for the marriage to happen!Dear Dhanabalan ji, hope I am correct.

RegardsAdithOn Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 8:55 PM, krishnamurti vangapandu <kvangapandu wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Mr.Dhanbalan,May I know whethe Jupiter in the star of Venus(which appears as star or sub of of 2/7/11) has to be in the SUB of a planet which is occupant or sign lord or star lord or sub lord of cusps 2/7/11 so that it can give marriage during its period?

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Dear Sirs,

Here I find that the Star lord of a cusp is given the position of a significator of the house. I mean to say if VII cusp is ruled by Venus, Moon and Mars as sign lord, star lord and sub lord respectively; Moon is also considered as asignificator of VII house. Am I right? KP?

Dr. Luther Rath.

 

 

 

adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath Sent: Thursday, February 5, 2009 5:58:45 AMRe: Re: Sub lord of a cusp is a significator of that cusp?

 

Dear Nr.Krishnamurty,Certainly ! Though the star lord is favoring, the sub is the deciding factor. Hence sub lord of Jupiter should be favoring for the marriage to happen!Dear Dhanabalan ji, hope I am correct.RegardsAdith

On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 8:55 PM, krishnamurti vangapandu <kvangapandu@ > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Mr.Dhanbalan,May I know whethe Jupiter in the star of Venus(which appears as star or sub of of 2/7/11) has to be in the SUB of a planet which is occupant or sign lord or star lord or sub lord of cusps 2/7/11 so that it can give marriage during its period?V.Krishnamurty

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Dear Adith

For twins born at 2 minutes interval, the dasa bukthi Antharam are same. (Difference in balance dasa is about 5 days). There may not be any change in the planetary position upto SubSublord. But both may not enjoy the same result during the same DBA period. But out of 12 cuspal sublords, one or two sublords may be different. Most of the subsublords differ. Therefore eventhough both twins are running the same DBA, the result will be different according to the DBA lords connection with cuspal sublords and cuspal subsublords.(cuspal signlord and cuspal starlord may be same for twins)Dhanabalan--- On Thu, 2/5/09, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath wrote:

adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinathRe: Re: Sub lord of a cusp is a significator of that cusp? Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 12:28 AM

 

 

Dear Nr.Krishnamurty,Certainly ! Though the star lord is favoring, the sub is the deciding factor. Hence sub lord of Jupiter should be favoring for the marriage to happen!Dear Dhanabalan ji, hope I am correct.RegardsAdith

On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 8:55 PM, krishnamurti vangapandu <kvangapandu@ > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Mr.Dhanbalan,May I know whethe Jupiter in the star of Venus(which appears as star or sub of of 2/7/11) has to be in the SUB of a planet which is occupant or sign lord or star lord or sub lord of cusps 2/7/11 so that it can give marriage during its period?V.Krishnamurty

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Dear Luther

You are correct. Planet will give its star's result and the sub is the decider. Likewise for the cusp, cuspal starlord will give the result of the cusp and the cuspal sublord is the decider.

For example, 10th cuspal signlord and cuspal starlord may indicate the doctor profession. It is the sub to decide whether he is MBBS or Veterinary doctor. Dhanabalan--- On Thu, 2/5/09, Luther Rath <rathluther wrote:

Luther Rath <rathlutherRe: Re: Sub lord of a cusp is a significator of that cusp? Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 7:36 AM

 

 

 

 

Dear Sirs,

Here I find that the Star lord of a cusp is given the position of a significator of the house. I mean to say if VII cusp is ruled by Venus, Moon and Mars as sign lord, star lord and sub lord respectively; Moon is also considered as asignificator of VII house. Am I right? KP?

Dr. Luther Rath.

 

 

 

adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comThursday, February 5, 2009 5:58:45 AMRe: Re: Sub lord of a cusp is a significator of that cusp?

 

Dear Nr.Krishnamurty,Certainly ! Though the star lord is favoring, the sub is the deciding factor. Hence sub lord of Jupiter should be favoring for the marriage to happen!Dear Dhanabalan ji, hope I am correct.RegardsAdith

On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 8:55 PM, krishnamurti vangapandu <kvangapandu@ > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Mr.Dhanbalan,May I know whethe Jupiter in the star of Venus(which appears as star or sub of of 2/7/11) has to be in the SUB of a planet which is occupant or sign lord or star lord or sub lord of cusps 2/7/11 so that it can give marriage during its period?V.Krishnamurty

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Dear Friends,I too can agree with u both.Still I am in analizing the Quiz -02 Birth Chart, to pick up any secret and sufficient evidences are to be collected with it.It is worth to go more on the known factors ie marriage, to see the strongest supporter for the marriage, whether it is STAR LORD of the 7th or Strar Lord of the CSL of 7th.SunaparanthaDhanabalan R

<r.dhanabalan Sent: Thursday, February 5, 2009 5:23:09 PMRe: Re: Sub lord of a cusp is a significator of that cusp?

 

Dear Luther

You are correct. Planet will give its star's result and the sub is the decider. Likewise for the cusp, cuspal starlord will give the result of the cusp and the cuspal sublord is the decider.

For example, 10th cuspal signlord and cuspal starlord may indicate the doctor profession. It is the sub to decide whether he is MBBS or Veterinary doctor. Dhanabalan--- On Thu, 2/5/09, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote:

Luther Rath <rathluther >Re: Re: Sub lord of a cusp is a significator of that cusp?@gro ups.comThursday, February 5, 2009, 7:36 AM

 

 

 

 

Dear Sirs,

Here I find that the Star lord of a cusp is given the position of a significator of the house. I mean to say if VII cusp is ruled by Venus, Moon and Mars as sign lord, star lord and sub lord respectively; Moon is also considered as asignificator of VII house. Am I right? KP?

Dr. Luther Rath.

 

 

 

adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comThursday, February 5, 2009 5:58:45 AMRe: Re: Sub lord of a cusp is a significator of that cusp?

 

Dear Nr.Krishnamurty,Certainly ! Though the star lord is favoring, the sub is the deciding factor. Hence sub lord of Jupiter should be favoring for the marriage to happen!Dear Dhanabalan ji, hope I am correct.RegardsAdith

On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 8:55 PM, krishnamurti vangapandu <kvangapandu@ > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Mr.Dhanbalan,May I know whethe Jupiter in the star of Venus(which appears as star or sub of of 2/7/11) has to be in the SUB of a planet which is occupant or sign lord or star lord or sub lord of cusps 2/7/11 so that it can give marriage during its period?V.Krishnamurty

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Dear Sunaparantha

It is a study whether KP original volume is correct or the present KP Readers are correct.

Dhanabalan--- On Thu, 2/5/09, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha wrote:

Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparanthaRe: Re: Sub lord of a cusp is a significator of that cusp? Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 3:58 PM

 

 

 

 

Dear Friends,I too can agree with u both.Still I am in analizing the Quiz -02 Birth Chart, to pick up any secret and sufficient evidences are to be collected with it.It is worth to go more on the known factors ie marriage, to see the strongest supporter for the marriage, whether it is STAR LORD of the 7th or Strar Lord of the CSL of 7th.

Sunaparantha

 

 

Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >@gro ups.comThursday, February 5, 2009 5:23:09 PMRe: Re: Sub lord of a cusp is a significator of that cusp?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Luther

You are correct. Planet will give its star's result and the sub is the decider. Likewise for the cusp, cuspal starlord will give the result of the cusp and the cuspal sublord is the decider.

For example, 10th cuspal signlord and cuspal starlord may indicate the doctor profession. It is the sub to decide whether he is MBBS or Veterinary doctor. Dhanabalan--- On Thu, 2/5/09, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote:

Luther Rath <rathluther >Re: Re: Sub lord of a cusp is a significator of that cusp?@gro ups.comThursday, February 5, 2009, 7:36 AM

 

 

 

 

Dear Sirs,

Here I find that the Star lord of a cusp is given the position of a significator of the house. I mean to say if VII cusp is ruled by Venus, Moon and Mars as sign lord, star lord and sub lord respectively; Moon is also considered as asignificator of VII house. Am I right? KP?

Dr. Luther Rath.

 

 

 

adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comThursday, February 5, 2009 5:58:45 AMRe: Re: Sub lord of a cusp is a significator of that cusp?

 

Dear Nr.Krishnamurty,Certainly ! Though the star lord is favoring, the sub is the deciding factor. Hence sub lord of Jupiter should be favoring for the marriage to happen!Dear Dhanabalan ji, hope I am correct.RegardsAdith

On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 8:55 PM, krishnamurti vangapandu <kvangapandu@ > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Mr.Dhanbalan,May I know whethe Jupiter in the star of Venus(which appears as star or sub of of 2/7/11) has to be in the SUB of a planet which is occupant or sign lord or star lord or sub lord of cusps 2/7/11 so that it can give marriage during its period?V.Krishnamurty

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DOB jul 6 1958 Karimnagar AP @ 1:00:30 AM

In my case the DB --me ma

 

Me is in star of sa in 8 and sa is star lord of 8th cusp.

 

Can any one analyze and what does strong significance of 8th mean to me?

Ma signifies 8 12 4 1 too. Does it mean i expect an accident in Ma?

 

 

 

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Dear Mr.DhanbalanThank you for your prompt clarification.V.Krishnamurty

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Respected Sir,

I cannot disagree that the lords of sign, star and sub of X indicate the nature of job, whether engineer, doctor or IAS, whether veternary or human etc. But des it mean that the star lord of the cusp shall give job during its period? Should we include the star lord among the significators of X house? As far as I understand the significators are the constellation lord of the occupants, the occupants, the constellation lord of the owner, the owner, Planets conoined with any of them, and the planets close tot he X cusp; besides planets aspected by the aforesaid planets if this is considered as the weakest ones. Will you kindly clerify?

With regards.

Dr. Luther Rath

 

 

 

Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan Sent: Thursday, February 5, 2009 10:46:04 PMRe: Re: Sub lord of a cusp is a significator of that cusp?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Sunaparantha

It is a study whether KP original volume is correct or the present KP Readers are correct.

Dhanabalan--- On Thu, 2/5/09, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > wrote:

Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >Re: Re: Sub lord of a cusp is a significator of that cusp?@gro ups.comThursday, February 5, 2009, 3:58 PM

 

 

 

 

Dear Friends,I too can agree with u both.Still I am in analizing the Quiz -02 Birth Chart, to pick up any secret and sufficient evidences are to be collected with it.It is worth to go more on the known factors ie marriage, to see the strongest supporter for the marriage, whether it is STAR LORD of the 7th or Strar Lord of the CSL of 7th.

Sunaparantha

 

 

Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >@gro ups.comThursday, February 5, 2009 5:23:09 PMRe: Re: Sub lord of a cusp is a significator of that cusp?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Luther

You are correct. Planet will give its star's result and the sub is the decider. Likewise for the cusp, cuspal starlord will give the result of the cusp and the cuspal sublord is the decider.

For example, 10th cuspal signlord and cuspal starlord may indicate the doctor profession. It is the sub to decide whether he is MBBS or Veterinary doctor. Dhanabalan--- On Thu, 2/5/09, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote:

Luther Rath <rathluther >Re: Re: Sub lord of a cusp is a significator of that cusp?@gro ups.comThursday, February 5, 2009, 7:36 AM

 

 

 

 

Dear Sirs,

Here I find that the Star lord of a cusp is given the position of a significator of the house. I mean to say if VII cusp is ruled by Venus, Moon and Mars as sign lord, star lord and sub lord respectively; Moon is also considered as asignificator of VII house. Am I right? KP?

Dr. Luther Rath.

 

 

 

adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comThursday, February 5, 2009 5:58:45 AMRe: Re: Sub lord of a cusp is a significator of that cusp?

 

Dear Nr.Krishnamurty,Certainly ! Though the star lord is favoring, the sub is the deciding factor. Hence sub lord of Jupiter should be favoring for the marriage to happen!Dear Dhanabalan ji, hope I am correct.RegardsAdith

On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 8:55 PM, krishnamurti vangapandu <kvangapandu@ > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Mr.Dhanbalan,May I know whethe Jupiter in the star of Venus(which appears as star or sub of of 2/7/11) has to be in the SUB of a planet which is occupant or sign lord or star lord or sub lord of cusps 2/7/11 so that it can give marriage during its period?V.Krishnamurty

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Dear Friends,It may be worthy to think whether the CSL is a planet and if so, how to consider its signification.As regards to a planet, the matter is seen through the star lord of that planet and the SUBLORD of that planet decides the result & how the matter is altered & enjoyed and suffered by the native. While we take the sub lord of the CUSP (all know the SUB LORD is a planet), we must be more careful, while dealing the subject. As told above, the CUSPAL SUB LORD is a PLANET. Here we must finalise the efficiency of the CUSPAL SUB LORD, by finding out the signification of the CUSPAL SUB LORD and any period runs under that planet signifying that house (CUSP), effects to get altered in those terms. To make it more clear for the students of KP, I like to discuss the following birth chart, as an example…..-K.M. Subramanium (The Sub Lord Speaks LX, K.P. & Astrology 1998 p 69, reprinted in SUBLORD SPEAKS – part 3, p 141)Regards,tw , Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha wrote:>> Dear Friends,> I too can agree with u both.> Still I am in analizing the Quiz -02 Birth Chart, to pick up any secret and sufficient evidences are to be collected with it.> It is worth to go more on the known factors ie marriage, to see the strongest supporter for the marriage, whether it is STAR LORD of the 7th or Strar Lord of the CSL of 7th.> > > Sunaparantha> > > ________________________________> Dhanabalan R r.dhanabalan > Thursday, February 5, 2009 5:23:09 PM> Re: Re: Sub lord of a cusp is a significator of that cusp?> > > Dear Luther> You are correct. Planet will give its star's result and the sub is the decider. Likewise for the cusp, cuspal starlord will give the result of the cusp and the cuspal sublord is the decider.> For example, 10th cuspal signlord and cuspal starlord may indicate the doctor profession. It is the sub to decide whether he is MBBS or Veterinary doctor. > Dhanabalan> --- On Thu, 2/5/09, Luther Rath rathluther > wrote:> > Luther Rath rathluther >> Re: Re: Sub lord of a cusp is a significator of that cusp?> @gro ups.com> Thursday, February 5, 2009, 7:36 AM> > > Dear Sirs,> Here I find that the Star lord of a cusp is given the position of a significator of the house. I mean to say if VII cusp is ruled by Venus, Moon and Mars as sign lord, star lord and sub lord respectively; Moon is also considered as asignificator of VII house. Am I right? KP?> Dr. Luther Rath.> > > > > ________________________________> adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>> @gro ups.com> Thursday, February 5, 2009 5:58:45 AM> Re: Re: Sub lord of a cusp is a significator of that cusp?> > > Dear Nr.Krishnamurty,> > Certainly ! Though the star lord is favoring, the sub is the deciding factor. Hence sub lord of Jupiter should be favoring for the marriage to happen!> Dear Dhanabalan ji, hope I am correct.> > Regards> Adith> > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 8:55 PM, krishnamurti vangapandu <kvangapandu@ > wrote:> > > Dear Mr.Dhanbalan,> May I know whethe Jupiter in the star of Venus(which appears as star or sub of of 2/7/11) has to be in the SUB of a planet which is occupant or sign lord or star lord or sub lord of cusps 2/7/11 so that it can give marriage during its period?> V.Krishnamurty>

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