Learning K P System

January 16, 2009

Dear Raichur

Whether KSK and his sons got the legal permission from Sagar publications for coping the contents of original volumes of 1965 into the KP Readers? If they did not get legal permission to copy, there is no need to get legal permission from KSK's sons.

Dhanabalan--- On Wed, 1/14/09, Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote:

Raichur-a-r <raichurarRe: Learning K P System , "Sunil Sharma" <sunilsharma21Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 5:50 AM

Dear Sharma

Good advice. Can you get the Legal permission from the two sons of KP both in channai?

If you can there are many who would volunteer to rewrite the books

raichur anant mumbai phone 25062609--- On Tue, 13/1/09, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ > wrote:

Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ >Re: Learning K P System@gro ups.comTuesday, 13 January, 2009, 1:40 PM

Dear Pandey ji,Thanks for the reply.

All along I was avoiding a direct remark about KP Readers lest I offend people in this forum through my unsolicited remarks. But let me just say what I wanted to, for a very long time. Teachng is an art and not everyone, irrespective of how learned he/she is, can be a good teacher. On the other hand, a person with ordinary inteligence can explain a point in a manner which students grasp immediately.Professor KSK propounded and was a great exponent of KP theory but his readers, the way they are written (if indeed he wrote them by himself) fail to impress me. Reader III transends to mere recording of his statements as if somebody recorded his voice over a dictaphone and presented in a written manner.I think, one will do a great service to Prof. KSK if he/she re-wrote these readers in a way that is more understanble to everyone, legally ofcourse by obtaining necessary permissions.I respect your view point

(reading Nakshatra Chintamani first) but that is like a "round about approach" rather than attacking the problem itself. In my opinion KP should be learned first and foremost through KP Readers for the simple reason that they are written by late Prof. KSK who gave us the theory. If they have become outdated or whatever, let us amend them and render them conducive to KP learning. I am not a legal expert but I think, like patents, copyright too has a lifespan. May be we should explore this angle and do our bit for the sake of KP.RegardsSunil

--- On Mon, 1/12/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: Learning K P System@gro ups.comMonday, January 12, 2009, 6:58 PM

Dear Sunil ji,

KP readers are wonderful books. I was not recommending them just because those are too detailed to comprehend by a beginner. Nakshatra Chintamani and other books I have mentioned are kind of summary, but if we have to go into the detail of KP system, there is no way other than to study KP readers. More information and more detail meaning more complexity and difficult to understand but without reading KP readers, in my opinion, KP knowledge can not complete.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ > wrote:

Dear Swami ji,Precisely the point I made few months ago. I have KP Readers since 1992 and every time I sit down with it I just cannot continue. Without being disrespectful to anyone, I have to say that the language used in 3rd reader is beyond my comprehension at least. In my opinion those volumes should be re-written to be readily understood by beginners.I too tend to agree with reading the books you suggested but where can I get them? I also read a suggestion just now to enrol in correspondence courses which is a welcome idea.RegardsSunil

swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> @gro ups.comMonday, January 12, 2009 5:15:06 PM Re: Learning K P System

|| Om Gurave Namah ||Hare Ram Krishna

Dear Punit ji,

Your this opinion is excellentand I gree .I have also find this appoach best one.

However , Students will do well if they read & digest Astrosecrets,Writings of K subramanium ( Sub lord speaks)and V ramamurti( Punarphoo) before reading KP Readers.

KP readers is a must But not for Starters.

Application of KP rules is likly to be accurate if your suggestions are followed.

with regards

OM TATSATRCSrivastava------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Swami_ Astrologer [Teaching & Consultations]http:\\www.cosmogra ce.com http:\\www.. kaalvast u.com

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --

-

Punit Pandey

@gro ups.com

Cc: gajender.singh@ sky.com

Monday, January 12, 2009 9:23 PM

Re: Learning K P System

Correspondence course is as good as buying KP books and reading them. There is no other benefit of the said correspondence course in my opinion. I am saying that because I myself have participated in Jyotish Visharad course from KPSARI and I would not recommend it to anybody.

In my opinion, the best way to learn KP is to read Nakshatra Chintamani and Further Light on Nakshatra Chintamani by Chandrakant Bhatt and asking any question in this forum. Once you have thoroughly studied both the books by Chandrakant Bhatt, then only I would suggest you to read even six readers. This is my personal approach which has changed over a period of time. Other senior KP astrologers may recommend KP 6 readers, but I think those are slightly confusing and little too detailed for the beginner.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Raakesh Sharma <divsintl > wrote:

Dr Hariharan , son of our reverend Guruji Late KSK offers correspondence course as well as books.You can contact him at KRISHNAMURTI PUBLICATIONS, F21-A, FIRST FLOOR, SPENCER PLAZA, 769, ANNA SALAI, CHENNAI-600 002.E-mail : kpsari. net.inBest regardsRaakesh K Sharma --- On Mon, 1/12/09, Gajender Singh <gajender.singh@ sky.com> wrote:

Gajender Singh <gajender.singh@ sky.com>

Learning K P System

@gro ups.com

Monday, January 12, 2009, 3:15 AM

I would like to learn K P System .

Can I learn this on line?

Can I buy a course and learn ?

If so from where ? Please let me know.Thanks

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January 17, 2009

please find out/ You can never get reply from the sons of KP

raichur anant mumbai phone 25062609--- On Fri, 16/1/09, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote:

Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalanRe: Learning K P SystemDate: Friday, 16 January, 2009, 4:35 PM

Dear Raichur

Whether KSK and his sons got the legal permission from Sagar publications for coping the contents of original volumes of 1965 into the KP Readers? If they did not get legal permission to copy, there is no need to get legal permission from KSK's sons.

Dhanabalan--- On Wed, 1/14/09, Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote:

Raichur-a-r <raichurarRe: Learning K P System , "Sunil Sharma" <sunilsharma21Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 5:50 AM

Dear Sharma

Good advice. Can you get the Legal permission from the two sons of KP both in channai?

If you can there are many who would volunteer to rewrite the books

raichur anant mumbai phone 25062609--- On Tue, 13/1/09, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ > wrote:

Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ >Re: Learning K P System@gro ups.comTuesday, 13 January, 2009, 1:40 PM

Dear Pandey ji,Thanks for the reply.

All along I was avoiding a direct remark about KP Readers lest I offend people in this forum through my unsolicited remarks. But let me just say what I wanted to, for a very long time. Teachng is an art and not everyone, irrespective of how learned he/she is, can be a good teacher. On the other hand, a person with ordinary inteligence can explain a point in a manner which students grasp immediately.Professor KSK propounded and was a great exponent of KP theory but his readers, the way they are written (if indeed he wrote them by himself) fail to impress me. Reader III transends to mere recording of his statements as if somebody recorded his voice over a dictaphone and presented in a written manner.I think, one will do a great service to Prof. KSK if he/she re-wrote these readers in a way that is more understanble to everyone, legally ofcourse by obtaining necessary permissions.I respect your view point

(reading Nakshatra Chintamani first) but that is like a "round about approach" rather than attacking the problem itself. In my opinion KP should be learned first and foremost through KP Readers for the simple reason that they are written by late Prof. KSK who gave us the theory. If they have become outdated or whatever, let us amend them and render them conducive to KP learning. I am not a legal expert but I think, like patents, copyright too has a lifespan. May be we should explore this angle and do our bit for the sake of KP.RegardsSunil

--- On Mon, 1/12/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: Learning K P System@gro ups.comMonday, January 12, 2009, 6:58 PM

Dear Sunil ji,

KP readers are wonderful books. I was not recommending them just because those are too detailed to comprehend by a beginner. Nakshatra Chintamani and other books I have mentioned are kind of summary, but if we have to go into the detail of KP system, there is no way other than to study KP readers. More information and more detail meaning more complexity and difficult to understand but without reading KP readers, in my opinion, KP knowledge can not complete.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ > wrote:

Dear Swami ji,Precisely the point I made few months ago. I have KP Readers since 1992 and every time I sit down with it I just cannot continue. Without being disrespectful to anyone, I have to say that the language used in 3rd reader is beyond my comprehension at least. In my opinion those volumes should be re-written to be readily understood by beginners.I too tend to agree with reading the books you suggested but where can I get them? I also read a suggestion just now to enrol in correspondence courses which is a welcome idea.RegardsSunil

swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> @gro ups.comMonday, January 12, 2009 5:15:06 PM Re: Learning K P System

|| Om Gurave Namah ||Hare Ram Krishna

Dear Punit ji,

Your this opinion is excellentand I gree .I have also find this appoach best one.

However , Students will do well if they read & digest Astrosecrets,Writings of K subramanium ( Sub lord speaks)and V ramamurti( Punarphoo) before reading KP Readers.

KP readers is a must But not for Starters.

Application of KP rules is likly to be accurate if your suggestions are followed.

with regards

OM TATSATRCSrivastava------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Swami_ Astrologer [Teaching & Consultations]http:\\www.cosmogra ce.com http:\\www... kaalvast u.com

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --

-

Punit Pandey

@gro ups.com

Cc: gajender.singh@ sky.com

Monday, January 12, 2009 9:23 PM

Re: Learning K P System

Correspondence course is as good as buying KP books and reading them. There is no other benefit of the said correspondence course in my opinion. I am saying that because I myself have participated in Jyotish Visharad course from KPSARI and I would not recommend it to anybody.

In my opinion, the best way to learn KP is to read Nakshatra Chintamani and Further Light on Nakshatra Chintamani by Chandrakant Bhatt and asking any question in this forum. Once you have thoroughly studied both the books by Chandrakant Bhatt, then only I would suggest you to read even six readers. This is my personal approach which has changed over a period of time. Other senior KP astrologers may recommend KP 6 readers, but I think those are slightly confusing and little too detailed for the beginner.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Raakesh Sharma <divsintl > wrote:

Dr Hariharan , son of our reverend Guruji Late KSK offers correspondence course as well as books.You can contact him at KRISHNAMURTI PUBLICATIONS, F21-A, FIRST FLOOR, SPENCER PLAZA, 769, ANNA SALAI, CHENNAI-600 002.E-mail : kpsari. net.inBest regardsRaakesh K Sharma --- On Mon, 1/12/09, Gajender Singh <gajender.singh@ sky.com> wrote:

Gajender Singh <gajender.singh@ sky.com>

Learning K P System

@gro ups.com

Monday, January 12, 2009, 3:15 AM

I would like to learn K P System .

Can I learn this on line?

Can I buy a course and learn ?

If so from where ? Please let me know.Thanks

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January 17, 2009

dear punitji and others

j have a copy of kpsk orinial books

the 1st one The page of printin details is missig

in Book2 Page 2 the details are

Oct over 1971

June 1975

This book shoud not be reproduced by any means or translated into any language in whole or paet withot the written permissin of the author

Price Rs 11-00

Ramesh Printing Press T. Nagar Madras-17

raichur anant mumbai phone 25062609--- On Fri, 16/1/09, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote:

Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalanRe: Learning K P SystemDate: Friday, 16 January, 2009, 11:23 AM

Dear Punit Pandey

Copy right of KSK's original KP volumes I & II were sold to Sagar Publications by Mr.KSK. The content of those volumes were copied in the 6 KP Readers published by KSK group from the year 1972 onwards. Is it not violation of copy right?

Dhanabalan --- On Tue, 1/13/09, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitpRe: Learning K P System Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 11:44 AM

Sunil ji,QUOTEThe Copyright Term Extension Act (CTEA) of 1998 extended copyright terms in the United States by 20 years. Since the Copyright Act of 1976, copyright would last for the life of the author plus 50 years, or 75 years for a work of corporate authorship.UNQUOTEI have first hand experience talking to KP people and my

experience is not very good. I am not optimistic about copyright talks with them. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ > wrote:

Dear Raichur ji,I know for a fact that patent rights expire after a time period. If I am not wrong it is 10 years. I am not a legal professional and even if copyright laws are eternal, we can obtain permission from copyright owners, amend the readers and let the profit accrue to the coyright owners. I am sure a workable agreement can be reached. Imagine the immense benefit that KP Theory and students would derive from such a possibility.RegardsSunil--- On Tue, 1/13/09, Raichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote:

Raichur-a-r <raichurar > Re: Learning K P System@gro ups.com, "Sunil Sharma" <sunilsharma21@ >Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 7:25 AM

Dear Sharma

The rediting or publishing KP,s book are not allowed by Copy Right Laws

Regarding getting books on KP please see todays posting

raichur anant mumbai phone 25062609--- On Mon, 12/1/09, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ > wrote:

Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ >Re: Learning K P System

@gro ups.com

Monday, 12 January, 2009, 10:51 PM

Dear Swami ji,Precisely the point I made few months ago. I have KP Readers since 1992 and every time I sit down with it I just cannot continue. Without being disrespectful to anyone, I have to say that the language used in 3rd reader is beyond my comprehension at least. In my opinion those volumes should be re-written to be readily understood by beginners.I too tend to agree with reading the books you suggested but where can I get them? I also read a suggestion just now to enrol in correspondence courses which is a welcome idea.RegardsSunil

swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com>@gro ups.com

Monday, January 12, 2009 5:15:06 PMRe: Learning K P System

|| Om Gurave Namah ||Hare Ram Krishna

Dear Punit ji,

Your this opinion is excellentand I gree .I have also find this appoach best one.

However , Students will do well if they read & digest Astrosecrets,Writings of K subramanium ( Sub lord speaks)and V ramamurti( Punarphoo) before reading KP Readers.

KP readers is a must But not for Starters.

Application of KP rules is likly to be accurate if your suggestions are followed.

with regards

OM TATSATRCSrivastava------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Swami_ Astrologer [Teaching & Consultations]http:\\www.cosmogra ce.com http:\\www.kaalvast u...com ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --

-

Punit Pandey

@gro ups.com

Cc: gajender.singh@ sky.com

Monday, January 12, 2009 9:23 PM

Re: Learning K P System

Correspondence course is as good as buying KP books and reading them. There is no other benefit of the said correspondence course in my opinion. I am saying that because I myself have participated in Jyotish Visharad course from KPSARI and I would not recommend it to anybody.

In my opinion, the best way to learn KP is to read Nakshatra Chintamani and Further Light on Nakshatra Chintamani by Chandrakant Bhatt and asking any question in this forum. Once you have thoroughly studied both the books by Chandrakant Bhatt, then only I would suggest you to read even six readers. This is my personal approach which has changed over a period of time. Other senior KP astrologers may recommend KP 6 readers, but I think those are slightly confusing and little too detailed for the beginner.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Raakesh Sharma <divsintl > wrote:

Dr Hariharan , son of our reverend Guruji Late KSK offers correspondence course as well as books.You can contact him at KRISHNAMURTI PUBLICATIONS, F21-A, FIRST FLOOR, SPENCER PLAZA, 769, ANNA SALAI, CHENNAI-600 002.E-mail : kpsari. net.inBest regardsRaakesh K Sharma --- On Mon, 1/12/09, Gajender Singh <gajender.singh@ sky.com> wrote:

Gajender Singh <gajender.singh@ sky.com>

Learning K P System

@gro ups.comMonday, January 12, 2009, 3:15 AM

I would like to learn K P System .

Can I learn this on line?

Can I buy a course and learn ?

If so from where ? Please let me know.Thanks

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January 17, 2009

i have got the same experience with sons of KSK

i have asked the permission to translate article of KSK and

KM Subramaium(sub-lord speaks) in marathi,but no reply.

-sunil gondhalekar

On 1/17/09, Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote:

please find out/ You can never get reply from the sons of KP

raichur anant mumbai phone 25062609--- On Fri, 16/1/09, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote:

Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan

Re: Learning K P SystemDate: Friday, 16 January, 2009, 4:35 PM

Dear Raichur

Whether KSK and his sons got the legal permission from Sagar publications for coping the contents of original volumes of 1965 into the KP Readers? If they did not get legal permission to copy, there is no need to get legal permission from KSK's sons.

Dhanabalan--- On Wed, 1/14/09, Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote:

Raichur-a-r <raichurarRe: Learning K P System

, " Sunil Sharma " <sunilsharma21

Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 5:50 AM

Dear Sharma

Good advice. Can you get the Legal permission from the two sons of KP both in channai?

If you can there are many who would volunteer to rewrite the books

raichur anant mumbai phone 25062609--- On Tue, 13/1/09, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ > wrote:

Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ >Re: Learning K P System

@gro ups.comTuesday, 13 January, 2009, 1:40 PM

Dear Pandey ji,Thanks for the reply.

All along I was avoiding a direct remark about KP Readers lest I offend people in this forum through my unsolicited remarks. But let me just say what I wanted to, for a very long time. Teachng is an art and not everyone, irrespective of how learned he/she is, can be a good teacher. On the other hand, a person with ordinary inteligence can explain a point in a manner which students grasp immediately.

Professor KSK propounded and was a great exponent of KP theory but his readers, the way they are written (if indeed he wrote them by himself) fail to impress me. Reader III transends to mere recording of his statements as if somebody recorded his voice over a dictaphone and presented in a written manner.

I think, one will do a great service to Prof. KSK if he/she re-wrote these readers in a way that is more understanble to everyone, legally ofcourse by obtaining necessary permissions.I respect your view point (reading Nakshatra Chintamani first) but that is like a " round about approach " rather than attacking the problem itself. In my opinion KP should be learned first and foremost through KP Readers for the simple reason that they are written by late Prof. KSK who gave us the theory. If they have become outdated or whatever, let us amend them and render them conducive to KP learning. I am not a legal expert but I think, like patents, copyright too has a lifespan. May be we should explore this angle and do our bit for the sake of KP.

RegardsSunil

--- On Mon, 1/12/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: Learning K P System@gro ups.com

Monday, January 12, 2009, 6:58 PM

Dear Sunil ji,

KP readers are wonderful books. I was not recommending them just because those are too detailed to comprehend by a beginner. Nakshatra Chintamani and other books I have mentioned are kind of summary, but if we have to go into the detail of KP system, there is no way other than to study KP readers. More information and more detail meaning more complexity and difficult to understand but without reading KP readers, in my opinion, KP knowledge can not complete.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ > wrote:

Dear Swami ji,Precisely the point I made few months ago. I have KP Readers since 1992 and every time I sit down with it I just cannot continue. Without being disrespectful to anyone, I have to say that the language used in 3rd reader is beyond my comprehension at least. In my opinion those volumes should be re-written to be readily understood by beginners.

I too tend to agree with reading the books you suggested but where can I get them? I also read a suggestion just now to enrol in correspondence courses which is a welcome idea.RegardsSunil

swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> @gro ups.com

Monday, January 12, 2009 5:15:06 PM Re: Learning K P System

|| Om Gurave Namah ||Hare Ram Krishna

Dear Punit ji,

Your this opinion is excellentand I gree .I have also find this appoach best one.

However , Students will do well if they read & digest Astrosecrets,Writings of K subramanium ( Sub lord speaks)and V ramamurti( Punarphoo) before reading KP Readers.

KP readers is a must But not for Starters.

Application of KP rules is likly to be accurate if your suggestions are followed.

with regards

OM TATSATRCSrivastava------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Swami_ Astrologer [Teaching & Consultations] http:\\www.cosmogra ce.com http:\\www... kaalvast u.com

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --

-

Punit Pandey

@gro ups.com

Cc: gajender.singh@ sky.com

Monday, January 12, 2009 9:23 PM

Re: Learning K P System

Correspondence course is as good as buying KP books and reading them. There is no other benefit of the said correspondence course in my opinion. I am saying that because I myself have participated in Jyotish Visharad course from KPSARI and I would not recommend it to anybody.

In my opinion, the best way to learn KP is to read Nakshatra Chintamani and Further Light on Nakshatra Chintamani by Chandrakant Bhatt and asking any question in this forum. Once you have thoroughly studied both the books by Chandrakant Bhatt, then only I would suggest you to read even six readers. This is my personal approach which has changed over a period of time. Other senior KP astrologers may recommend KP 6 readers, but I think those are slightly confusing and little too detailed for the beginner.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Raakesh Sharma <divsintl > wrote:

Dr Hariharan , son of our reverend Guruji Late KSK offers correspondence course as well as books.You can contact him at KRISHNAMURTI PUBLICATIONS, F21-A, FIRST FLOOR, SPENCER PLAZA, 769, ANNA SALAI, CHENNAI-600 002.E-mail : kpsari. net.in

Best regardsRaakesh K Sharma --- On Mon, 1/12/09, Gajender Singh <gajender.singh@ sky.com> wrote:

Gajender Singh <gajender.singh@ sky.com>

Learning K P System

@gro ups.com

Monday, January 12, 2009, 3:15 AM

I would like to learn K P System .

Can I learn this on line?

Can I buy a course and learn ?

If so from where ? Please let me know.Thanks

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January 17, 2009

Thanks Dhanbalan jiRegardsSunil

Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 6:38:46 AMRe: Learning K P System

Dear Sunil

You can go through KSK's original KP Volume I & II of 1965. It may satisfy your need. It may be out of print but you may get photocopies from Sagar publications, Delhi.

Dhanabalan--- On Tue, 1/13/09, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ > wrote:

Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ >Re: Learning K P System@gro ups.comTuesday, January 13, 2009, 10:42 AM

Dear Pandey ji,I apologize for using the wrong anology. I was alluding to the writing skills of Shri KSK and ended up using the word "teacher" instead, entirely negating his profession itself. The slip up was inadvertant.I fully agree with what you have said in your mail but from my perspective, would like to add my experinece/s.

I have been oscillating between Vedic and KP ever since I got interested in astrology in 1992. I was fortunate to stumble upon KP even in my early days. I bought all the readers and brought them to Nigeria where I reside but could go no further for reasons already mentioned. I did not have access to any teacher till the advent of internet, which, revived my interest in astrology once again. The beauty of KP system is it does away with lots of details like yoga, combustion etc. which makes it simpler to learn and hence attractive to beginners like me. Forgive me if I say this but I do not like to go about persuing an objective in the round about way. My persistence with KP Readers stems from the fact that "Why not learn from KP Readers written by the originator of this theory, why through books written by others". Unfortunately, in the present scenario. I cannot have my way. Not until I, or someone else, decides to change it.

I would love to, but I neither have that intellectual capability nor the insight. May be some day.That is all I have to say and this is my last message on this subject, at least from my side. You may still opt to reply if you so desire as I always value your input.RegardsSunil --- On Tue, 1/13/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: Learning K P System@gro ups.comTuesday, January 13, 2009, 10:44 AM

Dear Sunil ji,I can understand your feelings. Though I am not in agreement of most of what you have said. In my opinion, Shri KSK was a great teacher. He knew that learning astrology is much more than knowing a system. Shri KSK wanted to prepare people for astrology rather than just teaching a system. His objective was much bigger. He wanted to prepare people for future research and that is the reason he wanted to share as much as he learnt during his lifetime. When he talks about fundamental principles, karakatwa of planets, houses and signs, Hindu system, western system etc., he wanted to prepare foundation for the future of astrology. He knew very well that the basic principles of KP system are not much useful if not combines with the overall astrological concepts. He also understood very well the need of further development of this system. These were not the objectives for the other books like Nakshtra Chintamani etc. For the books like

Nakshatra Chintamani, the objective was to communicate the essential points of KP system in a simple and easy to understand way...... to communicate the core ideas behind KP System. We all understand the pros and cons of guidebook and textbook based approach. In my opinion, KP readers are not the guide books but the text books. On the other hand, books like Nakshatra Chintamani are guidebook for KP System. It it clear, to the point and talks only what is essential to know. But it doesn't give us the detailed information. According to me, books like Nakshatra Chintamani helps in understanding your textbooks - the KP readers. These are supportive books, but for knowing the real KP, there is no option but to dig into the readers. In my opinion, if we will try to write the amount of important information that we have in KP readers in a new book, we will end up with something very similar to KP readers. Having said that, I understand

that there is one more difficultly with the KP readers that the original books are modified by sons of Shri KSK. The original readers of 1965 and 1971 are not available. Though, as we had a debate few months back, I understand that the most of the books are perfectly usable. I can understand that modification has added some difficulty but it is the best available to us. Even with the modifications, KP readres are the gems. If you can get 1971 edition or 1965 edition, it help in understanding the changes. One can also understand the modifications by checking archive of this forum and also checking this file section (http://groups. / group/k_p_ system Difference% 20in%20Readers/)Thanks & Regards,Punit PandeyPS: As far as I know, the copyright for books goes for 50 years. If we take that the first

set of books were written in 1965, the copyright is going to end in year 2015.

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ > wrote:

Dear Pandey ji,Thanks for the reply.

All along I was avoiding a direct remark about KP Readers lest I offend people in this forum through my unsolicited remarks. But let me just say what I wanted to, for a very long time. Teachng is an art and not everyone, irrespective of how learned he/she is, can be a good teacher. On the other hand, a person with ordinary inteligence can explain a point in a manner which students grasp immediately.Professor KSK propounded and was a great exponent of KP theory but his readers, the way they are written (if indeed he wrote them by himself) fail to impress me. Reader III transends to mere recording of his statements as if somebody recorded his voice over a dictaphone and presented in a written manner.I think, one will do a great service to Prof. KSK if he/she re-wrote these readers in a way that is more understanble to everyone, legally ofcourse by obtaining necessary permissions.I respect your view point

(reading Nakshatra Chintamani first) but that is like a "round about approach" rather than attacking the problem itself. In my opinion KP should be learned first and foremost through KP Readers for the simple reason that they are written by late Prof. KSK who gave us the theory. If they have become outdated or whatever, let us amend them and render them conducive to KP learning. I am not a legal expert but I think, like patents, copyright too has a lifespan. May be we should explore this angle and do our bit for the sake of KP.RegardsSunil

--- On Mon, 1/12/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

Re: Learning K P System

@gro ups.comMonday, January 12, 2009, 6:58 PM

Dear Sunil ji,

KP readers are wonderful books. I was not recommending them just because those are too detailed to comprehend by a beginner. Nakshatra Chintamani and other books I have mentioned are kind of summary, but if we have to go into the detail of KP system, there is no way other than to study KP readers. More information and more detail meaning more complexity and difficult to understand but without reading KP readers, in my opinion, KP knowledge can not complete.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ > wrote:

Dear Swami ji,Precisely the point I made few months ago. I have KP Readers since 1992 and every time I sit down with it I just cannot continue. Without being disrespectful to anyone, I have to say that the language used in 3rd reader is beyond my comprehension at least. In my opinion those volumes should be re-written to be readily understood by beginners.I too tend to agree with reading the books you suggested but where can I get them? I also read a suggestion just now to enrol in correspondence courses which is a welcome idea.RegardsSunil

swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com>

@gro ups.com

Monday, January 12, 2009 5:15:06 PM Re: Learning K P System

|| Om Gurave Namah ||Hare Ram Krishna

Dear Punit ji,

Your this opinion is excellentand I gree .I have also find this appoach best one.

However , Students will do well if they read & digest Astrosecrets,Writings of K subramanium ( Sub lord speaks)and V ramamurti( Punarphoo) before reading KP Readers.

KP readers is a must But not for Starters.

Application of KP rules is likly to be accurate if your suggestions are followed.

with regards

OM TATSATRCSrivastava------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Swami_ Astrologer [Teaching & Consultations]http:\\www.cosmogra ce.com http:\\www.kaalvast u.com

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --

-

Punit Pandey

@gro ups.com

Cc: gajender.singh@ sky.com

Monday, January 12, 2009 9:23 PM

Re: Learning K P System

Correspondence course is as good as buying KP books and reading them. There is no other benefit of the said correspondence course in my opinion. I am saying that because I myself have participated in Jyotish Visharad course from KPSARI and I would not recommend it to anybody.

In my opinion, the best way to learn KP is to read Nakshatra Chintamani and Further Light on Nakshatra Chintamani by Chandrakant Bhatt and asking any question in this forum. Once you have thoroughly studied both the books by Chandrakant Bhatt, then only I would suggest you to read even six readers. This is my personal approach which has changed over a period of time. Other senior KP astrologers may recommend KP 6 readers, but I think those are slightly confusing and little too detailed for the beginner.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Raakesh Sharma <divsintl > wrote:

Dr Hariharan , son of our reverend Guruji Late KSK offers correspondence course as well as books.You can contact him at KRISHNAMURTI PUBLICATIONS, F21-A, FIRST FLOOR, SPENCER PLAZA, 769, ANNA SALAI, CHENNAI-600 002.E-mail : kpsari. net.inBest regardsRaakesh K Sharma --- On Mon, 1/12/09, Gajender Singh <gajender.singh@ sky.com> wrote:

Gajender Singh <gajender.singh@ sky.com>

Learning K P System

@gro ups.com

Monday, January 12, 2009, 3:15 AM

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January 17, 2009

Dear Group,Wonder if we can find out from Sagar Publications whether the permission was granted, if possible.RegardsSunil

sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 1:40:35 PMRe: Learning K P System

i have got the same experience with sons of KSK

i have asked the permission to translate article of KSK and

KM Subramaium(sub- lord speaks) in marathi,but no reply.

-sunil gondhalekar

On 1/17/09, Raichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote:

please find out/ You can never get reply from the sons of KP

raichur anant mumbai phone 25062609--- On Fri, 16/1/09, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:

Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >Re: Learning K P System@gro ups..comFriday, 16 January, 2009, 4:35 PM

Dear Raichur

Whether KSK and his sons got the legal permission from Sagar publications for coping the contents of original volumes of 1965 into the KP Readers? If they did not get legal permission to copy, there is no need to get legal permission from KSK's sons.

Dhanabalan--- On Wed, 1/14/09, Raichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote:

Raichur-a-r <raichurar >Re: Learning K P System@gro ups.com, "Sunil Sharma" <sunilsharma21@ >Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 5:50 AM

Dear Sharma

Good advice. Can you get the Legal permission from the two sons of KP both in channai?

If you can there are many who would volunteer to rewrite the books

raichur anant mumbai phone 25062609--- On Tue, 13/1/09, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ > wrote:

Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ >Re: Learning K P System@gro ups.comTuesday, 13 January, 2009, 1:40 PM

Dear Pandey ji,Thanks for the reply.

All along I was avoiding a direct remark about KP Readers lest I offend people in this forum through my unsolicited remarks. But let me just say what I wanted to, for a very long time. Teachng is an art and not everyone, irrespective of how learned he/she is, can be a good teacher. On the other hand, a person with ordinary inteligence can explain a point in a manner which students grasp immediately.Professor KSK propounded and was a great exponent of KP theory but his readers, the way they are written (if indeed he wrote them by himself) fail to impress me. Reader III transends to mere recording of his statements as if somebody recorded his voice over a dictaphone and presented in a written manner.I think, one will do a great service to Prof. KSK if he/she re-wrote these readers in a way that is more understanble to everyone, legally ofcourse by obtaining necessary permissions.I respect your view point

(reading Nakshatra Chintamani first) but that is like a "round about approach" rather than attacking the problem itself. In my opinion KP should be learned first and foremost through KP Readers for the simple reason that they are written by late Prof. KSK who gave us the theory. If they have become outdated or whatever, let us amend them and render them conducive to KP learning. I am not a legal expert but I think, like patents, copyright too has a lifespan. May be we should explore this angle and do our bit for the sake of KP.RegardsSunil

--- On Mon, 1/12/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: Learning K P System@gro ups.comMonday, January 12, 2009, 6:58 PM

Dear Sunil ji,

KP readers are wonderful books. I was not recommending them just because those are too detailed to comprehend by a beginner. Nakshatra Chintamani and other books I have mentioned are kind of summary, but if we have to go into the detail of KP system, there is no way other than to study KP readers. More information and more detail meaning more complexity and difficult to understand but without reading KP readers, in my opinion, KP knowledge can not complete.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ > wrote:

Dear Swami ji,Precisely the point I made few months ago. I have KP Readers since 1992 and every time I sit down with it I just cannot continue. Without being disrespectful to anyone, I have to say that the language used in 3rd reader is beyond my comprehension at least. In my opinion those volumes should be re-written to be readily understood by beginners.I too tend to agree with reading the books you suggested but where can I get them? I also read a suggestion just now to enrol in correspondence courses which is a welcome idea.RegardsSunil

swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> @gro ups.com Monday, January 12, 2009 5:15:06 PM Re: Learning K P System

|| Om Gurave Namah ||Hare Ram Krishna

Dear Punit ji,

Your this opinion is excellentand I gree .I have also find this appoach best one.

However , Students will do well if they read & digest Astrosecrets,Writings of K subramanium ( Sub lord speaks)and V ramamurti( Punarphoo) before reading KP Readers.

KP readers is a must But not for Starters.

Application of KP rules is likly to be accurate if your suggestions are followed.

with regards

OM TATSATRCSrivastava------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Swami_ Astrologer [Teaching & Consultations] http:\\www.cosmogra ce.com http:\\www.. . kaalvast u.com

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --

-

Punit Pandey

@gro ups.com

Cc: gajender.singh@ sky.com

Monday, January 12, 2009 9:23 PM

Re: Learning K P System

Correspondence course is as good as buying KP books and reading them. There is no other benefit of the said correspondence course in my opinion. I am saying that because I myself have participated in Jyotish Visharad course from KPSARI and I would not recommend it to anybody.

In my opinion, the best way to learn KP is to read Nakshatra Chintamani and Further Light on Nakshatra Chintamani by Chandrakant Bhatt and asking any question in this forum. Once you have thoroughly studied both the books by Chandrakant Bhatt, then only I would suggest you to read even six readers. This is my personal approach which has changed over a period of time. Other senior KP astrologers may recommend KP 6 readers, but I think those are slightly confusing and little too detailed for the beginner.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Raakesh Sharma <divsintl > wrote:

Dr Hariharan , son of our reverend Guruji Late KSK offers correspondence course as well as books.You can contact him at KRISHNAMURTI PUBLICATIONS, F21-A, FIRST FLOOR, SPENCER PLAZA, 769, ANNA SALAI, CHENNAI-600 002.E-mail : kpsari. net.in Best regardsRaakesh K Sharma --- On Mon, 1/12/09, Gajender Singh <gajender.singh@ sky.com> wrote:

Gajender Singh <gajender.singh@ sky.com>

Learning K P System

@gro ups.com

Monday, January 12, 2009, 3:15 AM

I would like to learn K P System .

Can I learn this on line?

Can I buy a course and learn ?

If so from where ? Please let me know.Thanks

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January 17, 2009

Dear Raichur

I have the KSK’s original volumes of 1965 edition, published by Sagar. I am reproducing the copy right of the publisher. In the first volume, in page ii, “ ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. This book may not be reproduced by any means, in whole or part without the permission of the publisher. Published under arrangement with the author. Published by M.K.Sagar, for Sagar publications, New Delhi.”

Mr.KSK has violated the copy right by reproducing the books in six volumes by adding the articles of KP astrologers.

Dhanabalan--- On Sat, 1/17/09, Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote:

Raichur-a-r <raichurarRe: Learning K P System Cc: "Punit Pandey" <punitpSaturday, January 17, 2009, 11:41 AM

dear punitji and others

j have a copy of kpsk orinial books

the 1st one The page of printin details is missig

in Book2 Page 2 the details are

Oct over 1971

June 1975

This book shoud not be reproduced by any means or translated into any language in whole or paet withot the written permissin of the author

Price Rs 11-00

Ramesh Printing Press T. Nagar Madras-17

raichur anant mumbai phone 25062609--- On Fri, 16/1/09, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:

Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >Re: Learning K P System@gro ups..comFriday, 16 January, 2009, 11:23 AM

Dear Punit Pandey

Copy right of KSK's original KP volumes I & II were sold to Sagar Publications by Mr.KSK. The content of those volumes were copied in the 6 KP Readers published by KSK group from the year 1972 onwards. Is it not violation of copy right?

Dhanabalan --- On Tue, 1/13/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: Learning K P System@gro ups.comTuesday, January 13, 2009, 11:44 AM

Sunil ji,QUOTEThe Copyright Term Extension Act (CTEA) of 1998 extended copyright terms in the United States by 20 years. Since the Copyright Act of 1976, copyright would last for the life of the author plus 50 years, or 75 years for a work of corporate authorship.UNQUOTEI have first hand experience talking to KP people and my

experience is not very good. I am not optimistic about copyright talks with them. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ > wrote:

Dear Raichur ji,I know for a fact that patent rights expire after a time period. If I am not wrong it is 10 years. I am not a legal professional and even if copyright laws are eternal, we can obtain permission from copyright owners, amend the readers and let the profit accrue to the coyright owners. I am sure a workable agreement can be reached. Imagine the immense benefit that KP Theory and students would derive from such a possibility.RegardsSunil--- On Tue, 1/13/09, Raichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote:

Raichur-a-r <raichurar > Re: Learning K P System@gro ups.com, "Sunil Sharma" <sunilsharma21@ >Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 7:25 AM

Dear Sharma

The rediting or publishing KP,s book are not allowed by Copy Right Laws

Regarding getting books on KP please see todays posting

raichur anant mumbai phone 25062609--- On Mon, 12/1/09, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ > wrote:

Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ >Re: Learning K P System

@gro ups.com

Monday, 12 January, 2009, 10:51 PM

Dear Swami ji,Precisely the point I made few months ago. I have KP Readers since 1992 and every time I sit down with it I just cannot continue. Without being disrespectful to anyone, I have to say that the language used in 3rd reader is beyond my comprehension at least. In my opinion those volumes should be re-written to be readily understood by beginners.I too tend to agree with reading the books you suggested but where can I get them? I also read a suggestion just now to enrol in correspondence courses which is a welcome idea.RegardsSunil

swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com>@gro ups.com

Monday, January 12, 2009 5:15:06 PMRe: Learning K P System

|| Om Gurave Namah ||Hare Ram Krishna

Dear Punit ji,

Your this opinion is excellentand I gree .I have also find this appoach best one.

However , Students will do well if they read & digest Astrosecrets,Writings of K subramanium ( Sub lord speaks)and V ramamurti( Punarphoo) before reading KP Readers.

KP readers is a must But not for Starters.

Application of KP rules is likly to be accurate if your suggestions are followed.

with regards

OM TATSATRCSrivastava------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Swami_ Astrologer [Teaching & Consultations]http:\\www.cosmogra ce.com http:\\www.kaalvast u....com ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --

-

Punit Pandey

@gro ups.com

Cc: gajender.singh@ sky.com

Monday, January 12, 2009 9:23 PM

Re: Learning K P System

Correspondence course is as good as buying KP books and reading them. There is no other benefit of the said correspondence course in my opinion. I am saying that because I myself have participated in Jyotish Visharad course from KPSARI and I would not recommend it to anybody.

In my opinion, the best way to learn KP is to read Nakshatra Chintamani and Further Light on Nakshatra Chintamani by Chandrakant Bhatt and asking any question in this forum. Once you have thoroughly studied both the books by Chandrakant Bhatt, then only I would suggest you to read even six readers. This is my personal approach which has changed over a period of time. Other senior KP astrologers may recommend KP 6 readers, but I think those are slightly confusing and little too detailed for the beginner.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Raakesh Sharma <divsintl > wrote:

Dr Hariharan , son of our reverend Guruji Late KSK offers correspondence course as well as books.You can contact him at KRISHNAMURTI PUBLICATIONS, F21-A, FIRST FLOOR, SPENCER PLAZA, 769, ANNA SALAI, CHENNAI-600 002.E-mail : kpsari. net.inBest regardsRaakesh K Sharma --- On Mon, 1/12/09, Gajender Singh <gajender.singh@ sky.com> wrote:

Gajender Singh <gajender.singh@ sky.com>

Learning K P System

@gro ups.comMonday, January 12, 2009, 3:15 AM

I would like to learn K P System .

Can I learn this on line?

Can I buy a course and learn ?

If so from where ? Please let me know.Thanks

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January 18, 2009

Dear Shri Raichur,

1. Yours seems later edition. Mine is the one published in 1965 (as

per date of preface letter) by Sagar Publications.

2. The price for both 2 vol in 1965 was Rs 25 and for 2nd vol in 1971

was Rs 11. 1st vol has 544 pages and 2nd vol 432.

3. It appears copyright was changed and so KP Reader II was published

exactly as in 1965 original one.

4. Talking about copyright is nothing to do with learning KP and

accusation without proof is strange.

Regards,

tw

, Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote:

>

> dear punitji and others

> j have a copy of kpsk orinial books

> the 1st one The page of printin details is missig

> in Book2 Page 2 the details are

> Â

> Oct over 1971

> June 1975

>

> Â

> Â Â Â Â This book shoud not be reproduced by any means or

translated into any languageÂ in whole or paet withot the written

permissin of the author

> Â

> Price Rs 11-00

> Â

> Ramesh Printing Press T. Nagar Madras-17

>

> raichur anant mumbai phone 25062609

>

> --- On Fri, 16/1/09, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote:

>

> Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan

> Re: Learning K P System

>

> Friday, 16 January, 2009, 11:23 AM

>

Dear Punit Pandey

> Copy right of KSK's original KP volumes I & II were sold to Sagar

Publications by Mr.KSK. The content of thoseÂ volumes were copied in

the 6 KP Readers published by KSK group from the year 1972 onwards. Is

it not violation of copy right?

> Â

> DhanabalanÂ

>

> --- On Tue, 1/13/09, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:

>

> Punit Pandey <punitp

> Re: Learning K P System

>

> Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 11:44 AM

>

> Sunil ji,

>

> QUOTE

> The Copyright Term Extension Act (CTEA) of 1998 extended copyright

terms in the United States by 20 years. Since the Copyright Act of

1976, copyright would last for the life of the author plus 50 years,

or 75 years for a work of corporate authorship.

> UNQUOTE

>

> I have first hand experience talking to KP people and my experience

is not very good. I am not optimistic about copyright talks with them.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

>

> Punit Pandey

>

> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@

> wrote:

>

Dear Raichur ji,

> I know for a fact that patent rights expire after a time period. If

I am not wrong it is 10 years. I am not a legal professional and even

if copyright laws are eternal, we can obtain permission from copyright

owners, amend the readers and let the profit accrue to the coyright

owners. I am sure a workable agreement can be reached. Imagine the

immense benefit that KP Theory and students would derive from such a

possibility.

> Regards

> Sunil

>

> --- On Tue, 1/13/09, Raichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote:

>

> Raichur-a-r <raichurar >

>

> Re: Learning K P System

> @gro ups.com, " Sunil Sharma " <sunilsharma21@

>

> Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 7:25 AM

>

Dear Sharma

> The rediting or publishing KP,s book are not allowed by Copy Right Laws

>

> Regarding getting books on KP please see todays posting

> raichur anant mumbai phone 25062609

>

> --- On Mon, 12/1/09, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ > wrote:

>

> Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ >

> Re: Learning K P System

>

> @gro ups.com

>

> Monday, 12 January, 2009, 10:51 PM

>

> Dear Swami ji,

> Precisely the point I made few months ago. I have KP Readers since

1992 and every time I sit down with it I just cannot continue. Without

being disrespectful to anyone, I have to say that the language used in

3rd reader is beyond my comprehension at least. In my opinion those

volumes should be re-written to be readily understood by beginners.

> I too tend to agree with reading the books you suggested but where

can I get them?

> I also read a suggestion just now to enrol in correspondence courses

which is a welcome idea.

> Regards

> Sunil

swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com>

> @gro ups.com

>

> Monday, January 12, 2009 5:15:06 PM

> Re: Learning K P System

>

Â

> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â || Om Gurave Namah ||

> Hare Ram Krishna

> Dear Punit ji,

> Your this opinion is excellentand I gree .I have also find this

appoach best one.

> However , Students will do well if they read & digest

Â Astrosecrets,Writings of K subramanium ( Sub lord speaks)and V

ramamurti( Punarphoo)Â before reading KP Readers.

> KP readers is a must But not for Starters.

> Â

> Application of KP rules Â is likly to be accurate if your

suggestions are followed.

> with regards

> Â

>

> Â OM TATSAT

> RCSrivastava

> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------

> Swami_ Astrologer [Teaching & Consultations]

> http:\\www.cosmogra ce.comÂ Â Â http:\\www.kaalvast u..com

> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------

> " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being

who has

> created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "

> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------

--------- --

>

> -

> Punit Pandey

> @gro ups.com

> Cc: gajender.singh@ sky.com

> Monday, January 12, 2009 9:23 PM

> Re: Learning K P System

>

> Correspondence course is as goodÂ as buying KP booksÂ and reading

them. There is no other benefit of the said correspondence course in

my opinion. I am saying that becauseÂ I myself have participated in

Jyotish Visharad course from KPSARI and I would not recommend it to

anybody.

> Â

> In my opinion, the best way to learn KP is to read Nakshatra

Chintamani and Further Light on Nakshatra Chintamani by Chandrakant

Bhatt and asking any question in this forum. Once you have thoroughly

studied both the books by Chandrakant Bhatt, then only I would suggest

you to read even six readers. This is my personal approach which has

changed over a period of time. Other senior KP astrologers may

recommend KP 6 readers, but I think those are slightly confusing and

little too detailed for the beginner.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

>

> Punit Pandey

>

> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Raakesh Sharma <divsintl (AT) (DOT)

com> wrote:

>

Dr Hariharan , son of our reverend Guruji LateÂ KSK offers

correspondence course as well as books.

>

> You can contact him at

>

> KRISHNAMURTI PUBLICATIONS, F21-A, FIRST FLOOR, SPENCER PLAZA, 769,

ANNA SALAI, CHENNAI-600 002.

> E-mail : kpsari net.in

>

> Best regards

>

> Raakesh K Sharma

>

> --- On Mon, 1/12/09, Gajender Singh <gajender.singh@ sky.com> wrote:

>

> Gajender Singh <gajender.singh@ sky.com>

>

> Learning K P System

>

> @gro ups.com

> Monday, January 12, 2009, 3:15 AM

>

Â

> I would like to learn K P System .

> Can I learn this on line?

> Can I buy a course and learn ?Â

> If so from where ? Please let me know.Thanks

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January 18, 2009

so be it. We cannot do anything about it can WE?

raichur anant mumbai phone 25062609--- On Sat, 17/1/09, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote:

Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalanRe: Learning K P SystemDate: Saturday, 17 January, 2009, 8:37 PM

Dear Raichur I have the KSKâ€™s original volumes of 1965 edition, published by Sagar. I am reproducing the copy right of the publisher. In the first volume, in page ii, â€œ ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. This book may not be reproduced by any means, in whole or part without the permission of the publisher. Published under arrangement with the author.. Published by M.K.Sagar, for Sagar publications, New Delhi .â€ Mr.KSK has violated the copy right by reproducing the books in six volumes by adding the articles of KP astrologers. Dhanabalan--- On Sat, 1/17/09, Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: