Learning K P System

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Dear Friends

 

In Vedic astrology we have to study at least 6 charts Rashi , Hora, Drekkana, navamsha, dasamsa and dwaqdasamsha, where as in KP cusple sub lord as well as planets sub lords will give the clues and dasa,bhukti , antara and sookshma will give the date of events.

 

Before 1986 i was praciting vedic astrology with planeets in the constallation as meema stellar astrology , in 1986 i got KP books and found developed work with sub lord system of prediction. Before and after 1986 i got succeed in so many predictions but since 1995 december night 21-35 hrs i lost sound knowledge in the same.

 

Astrological field I entered as my 10th cusp sub lord Jupiter is lord of 2nd and 11th in the 5th in his own star . From September 1996 Vastu-poster therapy and from February 28th, 1997 onwards i switched on to Vastu-Mirrorology-poster therapy.

 

Quiz will help a lot to lerners i feel and SP khullars as well as K.Bhaskaran's cusple interlinks too will help a lot in kp.

 

Now , i am in little confussion about Ayanamsha as I got succeeded in so many cases by using KP original ayanamsha, but now KPNA has been in practice by many KP followers.

 

Due to Ayanamsha differences sub sub lords will not be same hence it has become tough for me.

 

Regards

Sahhasra Saagara --- On Mon, 12/1/09, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitpRe: Learning K P System Date: Monday, 12 January, 2009, 11:28 PM

 

 

 

Dear Sunil ji,

 

KP readers are wonderful books. I was not recommending them just because those are too detailed to comprehend by a beginner. Nakshatra Chintamani and other books I have mentioned are kind of summary, but if we have to go into the detail of KP system, there is no way other than to study KP readers. More information and more detail meaning more complexity and difficult to understand but without reading KP readers, in my opinion, KP knowledge can not complete.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Swami ji,Precisely the point I made few months ago. I have KP Readers since 1992 and every time I sit down with it I just cannot continue. Without being disrespectful to anyone, I have to say that the language used in 3rd reader is beyond my comprehension at least. In my opinion those volumes should be re-written to be readily understood by beginners.I too tend to agree with reading the books you suggested but where can I get them? I also read a suggestion just now to enrol in correspondence courses which is a welcome idea.RegardsSunil

 

 

 

swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> @gro ups.comMonday, January 12, 2009 5:15:06 PM Re: Learning K P System

 

 

 

 

|| Om Gurave Namah ||Hare Ram Krishna

Dear Punit ji,

Your this opinion is excellentand I gree .I have also find this appoach best one.

However , Students will do well if they read & digest Astrosecrets,Writings of K subramanium ( Sub lord speaks)and V ramamurti( Punarphoo) before reading KP Readers.

KP readers is a must But not for Starters.

 

Application of KP rules is likly to be accurate if your suggestions are followed.

with regards

 

 

OM TATSATRCSrivastava------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Swami_ Astrologer [Teaching & Consultations]http:\\www.cosmogra ce.com http:\\www.kaalvast u.com

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --

 

 

-

Punit Pandey

 

@gro ups.com

Cc: gajender.singh@ sky.com

Monday, January 12, 2009 9:23 PM

Re: Learning K P System

 

 

 

 

Correspondence course is as good as buying KP books and reading them. There is no other benefit of the said correspondence course in my opinion. I am saying that because I myself have participated in Jyotish Visharad course from KPSARI and I would not recommend it to anybody.

 

In my opinion, the best way to learn KP is to read Nakshatra Chintamani and Further Light on Nakshatra Chintamani by Chandrakant Bhatt and asking any question in this forum. Once you have thoroughly studied both the books by Chandrakant Bhatt, then only I would suggest you to read even six readers. This is my personal approach which has changed over a period of time. Other senior KP astrologers may recommend KP 6 readers, but I think those are slightly confusing and little too detailed for the beginner.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

 

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Raakesh Sharma <divsintl > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dr Hariharan , son of our reverend Guruji Late KSK offers correspondence course as well as books.You can contact him at KRISHNAMURTI PUBLICATIONS, F21-A, FIRST FLOOR, SPENCER PLAZA, 769, ANNA SALAI, CHENNAI-600 002.E-mail : kpsari. net.inBest regardsRaakesh K Sharma --- On Mon, 1/12/09, Gajender Singh <gajender.singh@ sky.com> wrote:

 

 

Gajender Singh <gajender.singh@ sky.com>

Learning K P System

@gro ups.com

Monday, January 12, 2009, 3:15 AM

 

 

 

 

 

I would like to learn K P System .

Can I learn this on line?

Can I buy a course and learn ?

If so from where ? Please let me know.Thanks

 

 

 

 

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|| Om Gurave Namah ||Hare Ram Krishna

Dear Abhi and friends,

If permitted, I may mention,SW calculations could be accurate, perhaps more than called for for the system.

Just to quote . If you work out exercises of Sub lord speaks

With KP ayanamsa Chart will come close by Astroloka Software but not by others.

If you work out Charts by any software ,It gives feel of accuracy, but manual calculations From Raphels are poles apart when question of analysis arises.

Guruji worked with Raphel only.It is different matter that These tables are not enough detailed as far as Seconds are concerned.

I have asked some KP successful astrologers in Northern

parts.The common consesus is KP is accurate IF manual calculation are made.Especially IN Horary.

I am not expert,But to me it is a possibility That Software writers are compelled to use algorithim that is avaiable to them from single source or may be from two authers.

If this assumption is correct , Casting by Manual must prove useful as far as cuspal data is concerned.

In my work except for posting on list I rely manual calculations only.

Lastly Books OF Shri C.K.bhatt can be had from loger web site easily.

URL is

 

http://www.loger.com

OM TATSATRCSrivastava------------------------Swami_ Astrologer [Teaching & Consultations]http:\\www.cosmograce.com http:\\www.kaalvastu.com -----------------------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."--

 

-

abhi_ca_2004

Monday, January 12, 2009 10:15 PM

Re: Learning K P System

 

 

DEAR PUNITJI,I'VE LEARNED KP THROUGH BOOKS WRITEEN BY SHRI SURESH SHAHASANE JI -"KRISHNAMURTHY JTOTISH RAHASYA-PHALADESH KHAND,VOL 1 & 2"BUT WHEN I CHECKED HOROSCOPES (THROUGH SOFTWARES) OF VARIUOS EXAMPLES GIVEN IN THAT BOOKS,I FOUND THOSE TO BE INCORRECT.HOW DO U RATE THIS BOOK AS A TOOL TO LEARN KP.PLZ ALSO GIVE DETAILS REGARDING BOOKS OF SHRI Chandrakant Bhatt,FROM WHERE ONE CAN GET THOSE BOOKS.REGARDSABHI , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > Dear Punitji,> > A beautiful unbiased reply, which is eaxctly what I advise all those who> come to me asking how to learn KP. I too recommend Shri Chandrakant> Bhatts books first, and then the Readers. I agree that the readers are> very much confusing.> > I do not know Sons of Kp personally in any manner directly or> indirectly. I remember of sending money for a course 15 year back to> them, and there was no response once the money was gone. Just yesterday> I had a visitor of the Interntional Astronomers forum, at my place, and> he too had a bad experience after sending money - No response. These are> cases from first hand and not on hearsay.> > Some wrong managment of money in hands of wrong staff members or> whatever, I dont know and neither care.> > regards> > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > , "Punit Pandey" <punitp@> wrote:> >> > Correspondence course is as good as buying KP books and reading them.> There> > is no other benefit of the said correspondence course in my opinion. I> am> > saying that because I myself have participated in Jyotish Visharad> course> > from KPSARI and I would not recommend it to anybody.> >> > In my opinion, the best way to learn KP is to read Nakshatra> Chintamani and> > Further Light on Nakshatra Chintamani by Chandrakant Bhatt and asking> any> > question in this forum. Once you have thoroughly studied both the> books by> > Chandrakant Bhatt, then only I would suggest you to read even six> readers.> > This is my personal approach which has changed over a period of time.> Other> > senior KP astrologers may recommend KP 6 readers, but I think those> are> > slightly confusing and little too detailed for the beginner.> >> > Thanks & Regards,> >> > Punit Pandey> >> >> > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Raakesh Sharma divsintl@ wrote:> >> > > Dr Hariharan , son of our reverend Guruji Late KSK offers> > > correspondence course as well as books.> > >> > > You can contact him at> > >> > > KRISHNAMURTI PUBLICATIONS, F21-A, FIRST FLOOR, SPENCER PLAZA, 769,> ANNA> > > SALAI, CHENNAI-600 002.> > > E-mail : kpsari@ net.in> > >> > >> > > Best regards> > >> > > Raakesh K Sharma> > >> > > --- On *Mon, 1/12/09, Gajender Singh gajender.singh@* wrote:> > >> > > Gajender Singh gajender.singh@> > > Learning K P System> > > > > > Monday, January 12, 2009, 3:15 AM> > >> > >> > > I would like to learn K P System .> > > Can I learn this on line?> > > Can I buy a course and learn ?> > > If so from where ? Please let me know.Thanks> > >> > >> > >> > >> >>

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Those who are not aware,

 

Shri Suresh Sahasne ji, has written 2 volumes in marathii and also

translated in Hindi ( these are much better ), with hundreds of Live

examples of the modern day problems, and all of these examples are

explained within 2-3 pages each, in simple language to understand.

 

The books starts with basic introduction of astrology and is good even

for those who have not learn traditional astrology.

 

The examples given here are among the best one could find and have been

explained honestly without trying to do any " fixing astrology " . Many

new techniques which are unconventional have been given too in these two

volumes. When I last purchased them 3 years back they were priced at

Rs.500 MRP but he gave these to us students only for Rs.300- An honest

attempt ahs been made by this author for every student and expert in KP,

to rectify the birth times and solve day to day problems of the present

generation. I recommend these books even for the old generation of KP

astrologers.

 

I am not an agent or relative or a contact ( He does not know me by name

maybe by face he may recognise or not, I do not know) of Shri Sahasne

ji, but have learnt Kp from him, and been able to gain some respect in

astrology field only due to his books and teachings, and also understood

the readers only after going through his books and Shri Chanrakant Bhatt

Sahab books.

 

This is written with a garteful and thankful heart to the author from

whom I have learnt KP.

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

>

> Mr Abhi,

>

> Shri Suresh Sahasne has written the best books in simple language for

> any beginner and expert both to understand. If you cant understand his

> books and find them incorrect then the problem lies with your ownself

> and the software you use, and please do not put blame on the author.

>

> I rate it as a jewel among the finest books to learn KP.

>

> But I have understood with your query how much you can grasp KP. Just

> digest one book before you ask for others.

>

> Bhaskar.

>

>

, " abhi_ca_2004 " abhi_ca_2004@

> wrote:

> >

> >

> > DEAR PUNITJI,

> >

> > I'VE LEARNED KP THROUGH BOOKS WRITEEN BY SHRI SURESH SHAHASANE JI -

> > " KRISHNAMURTHY JTOTISH RAHASYA-PHALADESH KHAND,VOL 1 & 2 "

> > BUT WHEN I CHECKED HOROSCOPES (THROUGH SOFTWARES) OF VARIUOS

EXAMPLES

> > GIVEN IN THAT BOOKS,I FOUND THOSE TO BE INCORRECT.

> >

> > HOW DO U RATE THIS BOOK AS A TOOL TO LEARN KP.

> > PLZ ALSO GIVE DETAILS REGARDING BOOKS OF SHRI Chandrakant Bhatt,FROM

> > WHERE ONE CAN GET THOSE BOOKS.

> >

> > REGARDS

> >

> > ABHI

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@

> > wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Punitji,

> > >

> > > A beautiful unbiased reply, which is eaxctly what I advise all

> > those who

> > > come to me asking how to learn KP. I too recommend Shri

Chandrakant

> > > Bhatts books first, and then the Readers. I agree that the readers

> > are

> > > very much confusing.

> > >

> > > I do not know Sons of Kp personally in any manner directly or

> > > indirectly. I remember of sending money for a course 15 year back

> > to

> > > them, and there was no response once the money was gone. Just

> > yesterday

> > > I had a visitor of the Interntional Astronomers forum, at my

place,

> > and

> > > he too had a bad experience after sending money - No response.

> > These are

> > > cases from first hand and not on hearsay.

> > >

> > > Some wrong managment of money in hands of wrong staff members or

> > > whatever, I dont know and neither care.

> > >

> > > regards

> > >

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " Punit Pandey " <punitp@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Correspondence course is as good as buying KP books and reading

> > them.

> > > There

> > > > is no other benefit of the said correspondence course in my

> > opinion. I

> > > am

> > > > saying that because I myself have participated in Jyotish

Visharad

> > > course

> > > > from KPSARI and I would not recommend it to anybody.

> > > >

> > > > In my opinion, the best way to learn KP is to read Nakshatra

> > > Chintamani and

> > > > Further Light on Nakshatra Chintamani by Chandrakant Bhatt and

> > asking

> > > any

> > > > question in this forum. Once you have thoroughly studied both

the

> > > books by

> > > > Chandrakant Bhatt, then only I would suggest you to read even

six

> > > readers.

> > > > This is my personal approach which has changed over a period of

> > time.

> > > Other

> > > > senior KP astrologers may recommend KP 6 readers, but I think

> > those

> > > are

> > > > slightly confusing and little too detailed for the beginner.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Punit Pandey

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Raakesh Sharma divsintl@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Dr Hariharan , son of our reverend Guruji Late KSK offers

> > > > > correspondence course as well as books.

> > > > >

> > > > > You can contact him at

> > > > >

> > > > > KRISHNAMURTI PUBLICATIONS, F21-A, FIRST FLOOR, SPENCER PLAZA,

> > 769,

> > > ANNA

> > > > > SALAI, CHENNAI-600 002.

> > > > > E-mail : kpsari@ net.in

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Best regards

> > > > >

> > > > > Raakesh K Sharma

> > > > >

> > > > > --- On *Mon, 1/12/09, Gajender Singh gajender.singh@* wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Gajender Singh gajender.singh@

> > > > > Learning K P System

> > > > >

> > > > > Monday, January 12, 2009, 3:15 AM

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I would like to learn K P System .

> > > > > Can I learn this on line?

> > > > > Can I buy a course and learn ?

> > > > > If so from where ? Please let me know.Thanks

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sunilji,

 

Your mail brought a smile upon me. This helplessness which you face,

even I faced hundreds of times for 20 years, when I opened the readers

but closed them after 10 minutes du to not understanding of the same.

Then I was introduced to Nakshatra Chintamani by Chandrakantji Bhatt,

which made me understand Kp, and also luckily was able to attend a

course with Shri Sahasneji for one year, after which there was no

turning back. Now all these same books are like dishes for me to explore

and relish. No question of not understanding them now. I think till the

time comes for one to learn actually, nothing can happen before that

however much he may try. Till the 9th house is not activated in ones

chart, this will not happen.

 

best wishes,

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21

wrote:

>

> Dear Swami ji,

> Precisely the point I made few months ago. I have KP Readers since

1992 and every time I sit down with it I just cannot continue. Without

being disrespectful to anyone, I have to say that the language used in

3rd reader is beyond my comprehension at least. In my opinion those

volumes should be re-written to be readily understood by beginners.

> I too tend to agree with reading the books you suggested but where can

I get them?

> I also read a suggestion just now to enrol in correspondence courses

which is a welcome idea.

> Regards

> Sunil

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> swami swami

>

> Monday, January 12, 2009 5:15:06 PM

> Re: Learning K P System

>

>

>

> || Om Gurave Namah ||

> Hare Ram Krishna

> Dear Punit ji,

> Your this opinion is excellentand I gree .I have also find this

appoach best one.

> However , Students will do well if they read & digest

Astrosecrets,Writings of K subramanium ( Sub lord speaks)and V

ramamurti( Punarphoo) before reading KP Readers.

> KP readers is a must But not for Starters.

>

> Application of KP rules is likly to be accurate if your suggestions

are followed.

> with regards

>

>

> OM TATSAT

> RCSrivastava

> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------

> Swami_ Astrologer [Teaching & Consultations]

> http:\\www.cosmogra ce.com http:\\www.kaalvast u.com

> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------

> " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who

has

> created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "

> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------

--------- --

>

> -

> Punit Pandey

> @gro ups.com

> Cc: gajender.singh@ sky.com

> Monday, January 12, 2009 9:23 PM

> Re: Learning K P System

>

> Correspondence course is as good as buying KP books and reading them.

There is no other benefit of the said correspondence course in my

opinion. I am saying that because I myself have participated in Jyotish

Visharad course from KPSARI and I would not recommend it to anybody.

>

> In my opinion, the best way to learn KP is to read Nakshatra

Chintamani and Further Light on Nakshatra Chintamani by Chandrakant

Bhatt and asking any question in this forum. Once you have thoroughly

studied both the books by Chandrakant Bhatt, then only I would suggest

you to read even six readers. This is my personal approach which has

changed over a period of time. Other senior KP astrologers may recommend

KP 6 readers, but I think those are slightly confusing and little too

detailed for the beginner.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

>

> Punit Pandey

>

>

>

> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Raakesh Sharma divsintl >

wrote:

>

> Dr Hariharan , son of our reverend Guruji Late KSK offers

correspondence course as well as books.

>

> You can contact him at

>

>

> KRISHNAMURTI PUBLICATIONS, F21-A, FIRST FLOOR, SPENCER PLAZA, 769,

ANNA SALAI, CHENNAI-600 002.

> E-mail : kpsari net.in

>

>

> Best regards

>

> Raakesh K Sharma

>

>

> --- On Mon, 1/12/09, Gajender Singh <gajender.singh@ sky.com> wrote:

>

> Gajender Singh <gajender.singh@ sky.com>

>

> Learning K P System

>

> @gro ups.com

> Monday, January 12, 2009, 3:15 AM

>

>

>

>

>

> I would like to learn K P System .

> Can I learn this on line?

> Can I buy a course and learn ?

> If so from where ? Please let me know.Thanks

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Hanu,

 

there is no last straw in learning. One is an eternal learner in

Jyotish. Please go through my previous mail. Someone personally to guide

you alongwith the books which you must read and learn on your own, will

make you move forward. Nobody guides anyone unless one is humble. So

please visit some KP astrologer in your area with humility and tell him

that you wish to learn KP , and let him know beforehand that you will

not be any competetion for him ( No real astrologer gets afraid of

competetion ) . But before you visit him try to do some homework on your

own though books so that you know what he is talking of.

 

regards/Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, hanu bhatia <hanubhatia wrote:

>

> I too intend to learn KP and also have requested Punitji for advising

if anybody based out of Bombay can take private or personal tutions on

KP. I do not mind paying any fee for this but if somebody can advise on

good KP astrologer, that would be great help from this forum. I intend

to learn from basics till the last straw of KP.

> Can anybody help me?? Thanks Hanu

>

> --- On Mon, 1/12/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish

> Re: Learning K P System

>

> Monday, January 12, 2009, 11:42 PM

>

For those lovers of Kp who do not have any KP courses in their city of

> Location, I recommend -

>

> 1) Books by Chandrakant Bhatt.

>

> 2) Books by Suresh Sahasne ( In Hindi and Marathi )

>

> 3) Astrosecrets ( All 3 Parts )

>

> 4) KP Readers

>

> ( All above in that Order ),

>

> and secondly keep friendship with some KP astrologer in your area who

> can guide you once in a while. After that You do not need anybody.

these

> books are enough, This forum is enough and Your experience with charts

> is enough.

>

> Bhaskar.

>

> @gro ups.com, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ ...>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > Oh really? That is an eye opener! I just wrote a reply on this forum

> and wanted to join the correspondence course.

> > As regards KP Readers, I too have the same opinion. They are very

> badly written. Wrote an email to KP Book sellers (two of them) and no

> reply whatsoever. I am going to ask a friend of mine in Chennai to buy

> those books and mail them to someone in Goa who will then send it to

me.

> > Bought KP Astro 3.0 in July/August with great deal of enthusiasm.

Till

> day it is not working. Wrote to Mr. Rangarajan who profers certain

> cosmetic suggestions everytime but it just does not work. And to think

> of it, I was the one who was advocating this software to Mr.

> Sunaparantha and others on various fora, including this very one

> > Regards.

> > Sunil

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

> > @gro ups.com

> > Monday, January 12, 2009 5:09:00 PM

> > Re: Learning K P System

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Punitji,

> >

> > A beautiful unbiased reply, which is eaxctly what I advise all those

> who

> > come to me asking how to learn KP. I too recommend Shri Chandrakant

> > Bhatts books first, and then the Readers. I agree that the readers

are

> > very much confusing.

> >

> > I do not know Sons of Kp personally in any manner directly or

> > indirectly. I remember of sending money for a course 15 year back to

> > them, and there was no response once the money was gone. Just

> yesterday

> > I had a visitor of the Interntional Astronomers forum, at my place,

> and

> > he too had a bad experience after sending money - No response. These

> are

> > cases from first hand and not on hearsay.

> >

> > Some wrong managment of money in hands of wrong staff members or

> > whatever, I dont know and neither care.

> >

> > regards

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > @gro ups.com, " Punit Pandey " punitp@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Correspondence course is as good as buying KP books and reading

> them.

> > There

> > > is no other benefit of the said correspondence course in my

opinion.

> I

> > am

> > > saying that because I myself have participated in Jyotish Visharad

> > course

> > > from KPSARI and I would not recommend it to anybody.

> > >

> > > In my opinion, the best way to learn KP is to read Nakshatra

> > Chintamani and

> > > Further Light on Nakshatra Chintamani by Chandrakant Bhatt and

> asking

> > any

> > > question in this forum. Once you have thoroughly studied both the

> > books by

> > > Chandrakant Bhatt, then only I would suggest you to read even six

> > readers.

> > > This is my personal approach which has changed over a period of

> time.

> > Other

> > > senior KP astrologers may recommend KP 6 readers, but I think

those

> > are

> > > slightly confusing and little too detailed for the beginner.

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards,

> > >

> > > Punit Pandey

> > >

> > >

> > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Raakesh Sharma divsintl@ wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dr Hariharan , son of our reverend Guruji Late KSK offers

> > > > correspondence course as well as books.

> > > >

> > > > You can contact him at

> > > >

> > > > KRISHNAMURTI PUBLICATIONS, F21-A, FIRST FLOOR, SPENCER PLAZA,

769,

> > ANNA

> > > > SALAI, CHENNAI-600 002.

> > > > E-mail : kpsari@ net.in

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Best regards

> > > >

> > > > Raakesh K Sharma

> > > >

> > > > --- On *Mon, 1/12/09, Gajender Singh gajender.singh@ ...* wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Gajender Singh gajender.singh@ ...

> > > > Learning K P System

> > > > @gro ups.com

> > > > Monday, January 12, 2009, 3:15 AM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I would like to learn K P System .

> > > > Can I learn this on line?

> > > > Can I buy a course and learn ?

> > > > If so from where ? Please let me know.Thanks

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Inlight of the additional information in red above, could you please guide me as to the direction I should take to make a success of it. Thanks

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

Dr Hariharan , son of our reverend Guruji Late KSK offers correspondence course as well as books.You can contact him atKRISHNAMURTI PUBLICATIONS, F21-A, FIRST FLOOR, SPENCER PLAZA, 769, ANNA SALAI, CHENNAI-600 002.

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Correspondence course is as good as buying KP books and reading them. There is no other benefit of the said correspondence course in my opinion. I am saying that because I myself have participated in Jyotish Visharad course from KPSARI and I would not recommend it to anybody.

 

In my opinion, the best way to learn KP is to read Nakshatra Chintamani and Further Light on Nakshatra Chintamani by Chandrakant Bhatt and asking any question in this forum. Once you have thoroughly studied both the books by Chandrakant Bhatt, then only I would suggest you to read even six readers. This is my personal approach which has changed over a period of time. Other senior KP astrologers may recommend KP 6 readers, but I think those are slightly confusing and little too detailed for the beginner.

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raichur anant mumbai phone 25062609--- On Mon, 12/1/09, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitpRe: Learning K P System Date: Monday, 12 January, 2009, 11:28 PM

 

Dear Sunil ji,

 

KP readers are wonderful books. I was not recommending them just because those are too detailed to comprehend by a beginner. Nakshatra Chintamani and other books I have mentioned are kind of summary, but if we have to go into the detail of KP system, there is no way other than to study KP readers. More information and more detail meaning more complexity and difficult to understand but without reading KP readers, in my opinion, KP knowledge can not complete.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Swami ji,Precisely the point I made few months ago. I have KP Readers since 1992 and every time I sit down with it I just cannot continue. Without being disrespectful to anyone, I have to say that the language used in 3rd reader is beyond my comprehension at least. In my opinion those volumes should be re-written to be readily understood by beginners.I too tend to agree with reading the books you suggested but where can I get them? I also read a suggestion just now to enrol in correspondence courses which is a welcome idea.RegardsSunil

 

 

 

swami <swami Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 5:15:06 PM Re: Learning K P System

 

 

 

 

|| Om Gurave Namah ||Hare Ram Krishna

Dear Punit ji,

Your this opinion is excellentand I gree .I have also find this appoach best one.

However , Students will do well if they read & digest Astrosecrets,Writings of K subramanium ( Sub lord speaks)and V ramamurti( Punarphoo) before reading KP Readers.

KP readers is a must But not for Starters.

 

Application of KP rules is likly to be accurate if your suggestions are followed.

with regards

 

 

OM TATSATRCSrivastava------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Swami_ Astrologer [Teaching & Consultations]http:\\www.cosmogra ce.com http:\\www..kaalvast u.com

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --

 

 

-

Punit Pandey

 

@gro ups.com

Cc: gajender.singh@ sky.com

Monday, January 12, 2009 9:23 PM

Re: Learning K P System

 

 

 

 

Correspondence course is as good as buying KP books and reading them. There is no other benefit of the said correspondence course in my opinion. I am saying that because I myself have participated in Jyotish Visharad course from KPSARI and I would not recommend it to anybody.

 

In my opinion, the best way to learn KP is to read Nakshatra Chintamani and Further Light on Nakshatra Chintamani by Chandrakant Bhatt and asking any question in this forum. Once you have thoroughly studied both the books by Chandrakant Bhatt, then only I would suggest you to read even six readers. This is my personal approach which has changed over a period of time. Other senior KP astrologers may recommend KP 6 readers, but I think those are slightly confusing and little too detailed for the beginner.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

 

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Raakesh Sharma <divsintl > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dr Hariharan , son of our reverend Guruji Late KSK offers correspondence course as well as books.You can contact him at KRISHNAMURTI PUBLICATIONS, F21-A, FIRST FLOOR, SPENCER PLAZA, 769, ANNA SALAI, CHENNAI-600 002.E-mail : kpsari. net.inBest regardsRaakesh K Sharma --- On Mon, 1/12/09, Gajender Singh <gajender.singh@ sky.com> wrote:

 

 

Gajender Singh <gajender.singh@ sky.com>

Learning K P System

@gro ups.com

Monday, January 12, 2009, 3:15 AM

 

 

 

 

 

I would like to learn K P System .

Can I learn this on line?

Can I buy a course and learn ?

If so from where ? Please let me know.Thanks

 

 

 

 

 

 

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In which, country/place you are residing. Without this Basic information, it may not be possible to write about any KP astrologer who can coach you

raichur anant mumbai phone 25062609--- On Tue, 13/1/09, hanu bhatia <hanubhatia wrote:

hanu bhatia <hanubhatiaRe: Re: Learning K P System Date: Tuesday, 13 January, 2009, 12:06 AM

 

 

 

 

 

I too intend to learn KP and also have requested Punitji for advising if anybody based out of Bombay can take private or personal tutions on KP. I do not mind paying any fee for this but if somebody can advise on good KP astrologer, that would be great help from this forum. I intend to learn from basics till the last straw of KP.

Can anybody help me?? Thanks Hanu--- On Mon, 1/12/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Learning K P SystemDate: Monday, January 12, 2009, 11:42 PM

 

 

For those lovers of Kp who do not have any KP courses in their city ofLocation, I recommend -1) Books by Chandrakant Bhatt.2) Books by Suresh Sahasne ( In Hindi and Marathi )3) Astrosecrets ( All 3 Parts )4) KP Readers( All above in that Order ),and secondly keep friendship with some KP astrologer in your area whocan guide you once in a while. After that You do not need anybody. thesebooks are enough, This forum is enough and Your experience with chartsis enough.Bhaskar.@gro ups.com, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ ...>wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar ji,> Oh really? That is an eye opener! I just wrote a reply on this forumand wanted to join the correspondence course.> As regards KP Readers, I too have the same opinion. They are verybadly

written. Wrote an email to KP Book sellers (two of them) and noreply whatsoever. I am going to ask a friend of mine in Chennai to buythose books and mail them to someone in Goa who will then send it to me.> Bought KP Astro 3.0 in July/August with great deal of enthusiasm. Tillday it is not working. Wrote to Mr. Rangarajan who profers certaincosmetic suggestions everytime but it just does not work. And to thinkof it, I was the one who was advocating this software to Mr.Sunaparantha and others on various fora, including this very one> Regards.> Sunil>>>>> ____________ _________ _________ __> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> @gro ups.com> Monday, January 12, 2009 5:09:00 PM> Re: Learning K P

System>>>> Dear Punitji,>> A beautiful unbiased reply, which is eaxctly what I advise all thosewho> come to me asking how to learn KP. I too recommend Shri Chandrakant> Bhatts books first, and then the Readers. I agree that the readers are> very much confusing.>> I do not know Sons of Kp personally in any manner directly or> indirectly. I remember of sending money for a course 15 year back to> them, and there was no response once the money was gone. Justyesterday> I had a visitor of the Interntional Astronomers forum, at my place,and> he too had a bad experience after sending money - No response. Theseare> cases from first hand and not on hearsay.>> Some wrong managment of money in hands of wrong staff members or> whatever, I dont know and neither care.>> regards>>

Bhaskar.>> @gro ups.com, "Punit Pandey" punitp@ wrote:> >> > Correspondence course is as good as buying KP books and readingthem.> There> > is no other benefit of the said correspondence course in my opinion.I> am> > saying that because I myself have participated in Jyotish Visharad> course> > from KPSARI and I would not recommend it to anybody.> >> > In my opinion, the best way to learn KP is to read Nakshatra> Chintamani and> > Further Light on Nakshatra Chintamani by Chandrakant Bhatt andasking> any> > question in this forum. Once you have thoroughly studied both the> books by> > Chandrakant Bhatt, then only I would suggest you to read even six> readers.> > This is my personal approach which has changed over a period oftime.>

Other> > senior KP astrologers may recommend KP 6 readers, but I think those> are> > slightly confusing and little too detailed for the beginner.> >> > Thanks & Regards,> >> > Punit Pandey> >> >> > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Raakesh Sharma divsintl@ wrote:> >> > > Dr Hariharan , son of our reverend Guruji Late KSK offers> > > correspondence course as well as books.> > >> > > You can contact him at> > >> > > KRISHNAMURTI PUBLICATIONS, F21-A, FIRST FLOOR, SPENCER PLAZA, 769,> ANNA> > > SALAI, CHENNAI-600 002.> > > E-mail : kpsari@ net.in> > >> > >> > > Best regards> > >> > > Raakesh K Sharma> > >> > > --- On *Mon, 1/12/09, Gajender Singh

gajender.singh@ ...* wrote:> > >> > > Gajender Singh gajender.singh@ ...> > > Learning K P System> > > @gro ups.com> > > Monday, January 12, 2009, 3:15 AM> > >> > >> > > I would like to learn K P System .> > > Can I learn this on line?> > > Can I buy a course and learn ?> > > If so from where ? Please let me know.Thanks> > >> > >> > >> > >> >>

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by rewring the KP books?I am sending a copy of KP Diary for your use. It is a New Years Gift I send it usually in DEc

 

raichur anant mumbai phone 25062609--- On Tue, 13/1/09, delhi1955 <delhi1955 wrote:

delhi1955 <delhi1955 Re: Learning K P System Date: Tuesday, 13 January, 2009, 11:32 AM-DearBhaskar ,

--I had attended a short term course a few years ago organised by mr. subramanian son of late sri Kp I could not gain much from the course however i read all the readers and other books brought out by them .The books are very badly produced and badly edited.I regularly buy the annual KP book to find out the daily transits.

I am a publisher by profession and i feelthere is certainly a good book on KP astrology if any one of you canput it togather i would bring it out.

sunil paul chennai

, hanu bhatia <hanubhatia wrote:

>

> I too intend to learn KP and also have requested Punitji for advising if anybody based out of Bombay can take private or personal tutions on KP. I do not mind paying any fee for this but if somebody can advise on good KP astrologer, that would be great help from this forum. I intend to learn from basics till the last straw of KP.

> Can anybody help me?? Thanks Hanu

> > --- On Mon, 1/12/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish

> Re: Learning K P System

>

> Monday, January 12, 2009, 11:42 PM

> > > > > > > > For those lovers of Kp who do not have any KP courses in their city of

> Location, I recommend -

> > 1) Books by Chandrakant Bhatt.

> > 2) Books by Suresh Sahasne ( In Hindi and Marathi )

> > 3) Astrosecrets ( All 3 Parts )

> > 4) KP Readers

> > ( All above in that Order ),

> > and secondly keep friendship with some KP astrologer in your area who

> can guide you once in a while. After that You do not need anybody. these

> books are enough, This forum is enough and Your experience with charts

> is enough.

> > Bhaskar.

> > @gro ups.com, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ ...>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > Oh really? That is an eye opener! I just wrote a reply on this forum

> and wanted to join the correspondence course.

> > As regards KP Readers, I too have the same opinion. They are very

> badly written. Wrote an email to KP Book sellers (two of them) and no

> reply whatsoever. I am going to ask a friend of mine in Chennai to buy

> those books and mail them to someone in Goa who will then send it to me.

> > Bought KP Astro 3.0 in July/August with great deal of enthusiasm. Till

> day it is not working. Wrote to Mr. Rangarajan who profers certain

> cosmetic suggestions everytime but it just does not work. And to think

> of it, I was the one who was advocating this software to Mr.

> Sunaparantha and others on various fora, including this very one

> > Regards.

> > Sunil

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

> > @gro ups.com

> > Monday, January 12, 2009 5:09:00 PM

> > Re: Learning K P System

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Punitji,

> >

> > A beautiful unbiased reply, which is eaxctly what I advise all those

> who

> > come to me asking how to learn KP. I too recommend Shri Chandrakant

> > Bhatts books first, and then the Readers. I agree that the readers are

> > very much confusing.

> >

> > I do not know Sons of Kp personally in any manner directly or

> > indirectly. I remember of sending money for a course 15 year back to

> > them, and there was no response once the money was gone. Just

> yesterday

> > I had a visitor of the Interntional Astronomers forum, at my place,

> and

> > he too had a bad experience after sending money - No response. These

> are

> > cases from first hand and not on hearsay.

> >

> > Some wrong managment of money in hands of wrong staff members or

> > whatever, I dont know and neither care.

> >

> > regards

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > @gro ups.com, "Punit Pandey" punitp@

wrote:

> > >

> > > Correspondence course is as good as buying KP books and reading

> them.

> > There

> > > is no other benefit of the said correspondence course in my opinion.

> I

> > am

> > > saying that because I myself have participated in Jyotish Visharad

> > course

> > > from KPSARI and I would not recommend it to anybody.

> > >

> > > In my opinion, the best way to learn KP is to read Nakshatra

> > Chintamani and

> > > Further Light on Nakshatra Chintamani by Chandrakant Bhatt and

> asking

> > any

> > > question in this forum. Once you have thoroughly studied both the

> > books by

> > > Chandrakant Bhatt, then only I would suggest you to read even six

> > readers.

> > > This is my personal approach which has changed over a period of

> time.

> > Other

> > > senior KP astrologers may recommend KP 6 readers, but I think those

> > are

> > > slightly confusing and little too detailed for the beginner.

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards,

> > >

> > > Punit Pandey

> > >

> > >

> > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Raakesh Sharma divsintl@ wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dr Hariharan , son of our reverend Guruji Late KSK offers

> > > > correspondence course as well as books.

> > > >

> > > > You can contact him at

> > > >

> > > > KRISHNAMURTI PUBLICATIONS, F21-A, FIRST FLOOR, SPENCER PLAZA, 769,

> > ANNA

> > > > SALAI, CHENNAI-600 002.

> > > > E-mail : kpsari@ net.in

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Best regards

> > > >

> > > > Raakesh K Sharma

> > > >

> > > > --- On *Mon, 1/12/09, Gajender Singh gajender.singh@ ....* wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Gajender Singh gajender.singh@ ...

> > > > Learning K P System

> > > > @gro ups.com

> > > > Monday, January 12, 2009, 3:15 AM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I would like to learn K P System .

> > > > Can I learn this on line?

> > > > Can I buy a course and learn ?

> > > > If so from where ? Please let me know.Thanks

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

---

 

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Even after considering your experience of 1.5 years, I would recommend you the same i.e. read Nakshatra Chintamani and then read other KP books. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 2:15 AM, Gajender Singh <gajender.singh wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

While asking for the information yesterday, I did not make it clear that , I am studying the Professional stage of my Vedic Astrology course ( duration 1.5 years ) and hope to finish this in the next 2 months. Therafter I would like to expand my knowledge by learning the K P System from a goo source.

 

Inlight of the additional information in red above, could you please guide me as to the direction I should take to make a success of it. Thanks

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

Dr Hariharan , son of our reverend Guruji Late KSK offers correspondence course as well as books.You can contact him atKRISHNAMURTI PUBLICATIONS, F21-A, FIRST FLOOR, SPENCER PLAZA, 769, ANNA SALAI, CHENNAI-600 002.

 

E-mail : kpsari. net.inBest regards

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3:53 pm (4 hours ago)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Correspondence course is as good as buying KP books and reading them. There is no other benefit of the said correspondence course in my opinion. I am saying that because I myself have participated in Jyotish Visharad course from KPSARI and I would not recommend it to anybody.

 

In my opinion, the best way to learn KP is to read Nakshatra Chintamani and Further Light on Nakshatra Chintamani by Chandrakant Bhatt and asking any question in this forum. Once you have thoroughly studied both the books by Chandrakant Bhatt, then only I would suggest you to read even six readers. This is my personal approach which has changed over a period of time. Other senior KP astrologers may recommend KP 6 readers, but I think those are slightly confusing and little too detailed for the beginner.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

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Dear Pandey ji,Thanks for the reply.

All along I was avoiding a direct remark about KP Readers lest I offend people in this forum through my unsolicited remarks. But let me just say what I wanted to, for a very long time. Teachng is an art and not everyone, irrespective of how learned he/she is, can be a good teacher. On the other hand, a person with ordinary inteligence can explain a point in a manner which students grasp immediately.Professor KSK propounded and was a great exponent of KP theory but his readers, the way they are written (if indeed he wrote them by himself) fail to impress me. Reader III transends to mere recording of his statements as if somebody recorded his voice over a dictaphone and presented in a written manner.I think, one will do a great service to Prof. KSK if he/she re-wrote these readers in a way that is more understanble to everyone, legally ofcourse by obtaining necessary permissions.I respect your view point

(reading Nakshatra Chintamani first) but that is like a "round about approach" rather than attacking the problem itself. In my opinion KP should be learned first and foremost through KP Readers for the simple reason that they are written by late Prof. KSK who gave us the theory. If they have become outdated or whatever, let us amend them and render them conducive to KP learning. I am not a legal expert but I think, like patents, copyright too has a lifespan. May be we should explore this angle and do our bit for the sake of KP.RegardsSunil

 

--- On Mon, 1/12/09, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitpRe: Learning K P System Date: Monday, January 12, 2009, 6:58 PM

 

 

 

Dear Sunil ji,

 

KP readers are wonderful books. I was not recommending them just because those are too detailed to comprehend by a beginner. Nakshatra Chintamani and other books I have mentioned are kind of summary, but if we have to go into the detail of KP system, there is no way other than to study KP readers. More information and more detail meaning more complexity and difficult to understand but without reading KP readers, in my opinion, KP knowledge can not complete.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Swami ji,Precisely the point I made few months ago. I have KP Readers since 1992 and every time I sit down with it I just cannot continue. Without being disrespectful to anyone, I have to say that the language used in 3rd reader is beyond my comprehension at least. In my opinion those volumes should be re-written to be readily understood by beginners.I too tend to agree with reading the books you suggested but where can I get them? I also read a suggestion just now to enrol in correspondence courses which is a welcome idea.RegardsSunil

 

 

 

swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> @gro ups.comMonday, January 12, 2009 5:15:06 PM Re: Learning K P System

 

 

 

 

|| Om Gurave Namah ||Hare Ram Krishna

Dear Punit ji,

Your this opinion is excellentand I gree .I have also find this appoach best one.

However , Students will do well if they read & digest Astrosecrets,Writings of K subramanium ( Sub lord speaks)and V ramamurti( Punarphoo) before reading KP Readers.

KP readers is a must But not for Starters.

 

Application of KP rules is likly to be accurate if your suggestions are followed.

with regards

 

 

OM TATSATRCSrivastava------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Swami_ Astrologer [Teaching & Consultations]http:\\www.cosmogra ce.com http:\\www.kaalvast u.com

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --

 

 

-

Punit Pandey

 

@gro ups.com

Cc: gajender.singh@ sky.com

Monday, January 12, 2009 9:23 PM

Re: Learning K P System

 

 

 

 

Correspondence course is as good as buying KP books and reading them. There is no other benefit of the said correspondence course in my opinion. I am saying that because I myself have participated in Jyotish Visharad course from KPSARI and I would not recommend it to anybody.

 

In my opinion, the best way to learn KP is to read Nakshatra Chintamani and Further Light on Nakshatra Chintamani by Chandrakant Bhatt and asking any question in this forum. Once you have thoroughly studied both the books by Chandrakant Bhatt, then only I would suggest you to read even six readers. This is my personal approach which has changed over a period of time. Other senior KP astrologers may recommend KP 6 readers, but I think those are slightly confusing and little too detailed for the beginner.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

 

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Raakesh Sharma <divsintl > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dr Hariharan , son of our reverend Guruji Late KSK offers correspondence course as well as books.You can contact him at KRISHNAMURTI PUBLICATIONS, F21-A, FIRST FLOOR, SPENCER PLAZA, 769, ANNA SALAI, CHENNAI-600 002.E-mail : kpsari. net.inBest regardsRaakesh K Sharma --- On Mon, 1/12/09, Gajender Singh <gajender.singh@ sky.com> wrote:

 

 

Gajender Singh <gajender.singh@ sky.com>

Learning K P System

@gro ups.com

Monday, January 12, 2009, 3:15 AM

 

 

 

 

 

I would like to learn K P System .

Can I learn this on line?

Can I buy a course and learn ?

If so from where ? Please let me know.Thanks

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Those who are not aware,Shri Suresh Sahasne ji, has written 2 volumes in marathii and alsotranslated in Hindi ( these are much better ), with hundreds of Liveexamples of the modern day problems, and all of these examples areexplained within 2-3 pages each, in simple language to understand.The books starts with basic introduction of astrology and is good evenfor those who have not learn traditional astrology.The examples given here are among the best one could find and have beenexplained honestly without trying to do any "fixing astrology". Manynew techniques which are unconventional have been given too in these twovolumes. When I last purchased them 3 years back they were priced atRs.500 MRP but he gave these to us students only for Rs.300- An honestattempt ahs been made by this author for every student and expert in KP,to rectify the birth times and solve day to day problems of the

presentgeneration. I recommend these books even for the old generation of logers.I am not an agent or relative or a contact ( He does not know me by namemaybe by face he may recognise or not, I do not know) of Shri Sahasneji, but have learnt Kp from him, and been able to gain some respect inastrology field only due to his books and teachings, and also understoodthe readers only after going through his books and Shri Chanrakant BhattSahab books.This is written with a garteful and thankful heart to the author fromwhom I have learnt KP.Bhaskar.@gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>wrote:>>> Mr Abhi,>> Shri Suresh Sahasne has written the best books in simple language for> any beginner and expert both to understand. If you cant

understand his> books and find them incorrect then the problem lies with your ownself> and the software you use, and please do not put blame on the author.>> I rate it as a jewel among the finest books to learn KP.>> But I have understood with your query how much you can grasp KP. Just> digest one book before you ask for others.>> Bhaskar.>>>>>>>>> @gro ups.com, "abhi_ca_2004" abhi_ca_2004@> wrote:> >> >> > DEAR PUNITJI,> >> > I'VE LEARNED KP THROUGH BOOKS WRITEEN BY SHRI SURESH SHAHASANE JI -> > "KRISHNAMURTHY JTOTISH RAHASYA-PHALADESH KHAND,VOL 1 & 2"> > BUT WHEN I CHECKED HOROSCOPES (THROUGH SOFTWARES) OF VARIUOSEXAMPLES> > GIVEN IN

THAT BOOKS,I FOUND THOSE TO BE INCORRECT.> >> > HOW DO U RATE THIS BOOK AS A TOOL TO LEARN KP.> > PLZ ALSO GIVE DETAILS REGARDING BOOKS OF SHRI Chandrakant Bhatt,FROM> > WHERE ONE CAN GET THOSE BOOKS.> >> > REGARDS> >> > ABHI> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Punitji,> > >> > > A beautiful unbiased reply, which is eaxctly what I advise all> > those who> > > come to me asking how to learn KP. I too recommend ShriChandrakant> > > Bhatts books first, and then the Readers. I agree that the

readers> > are> > > very much confusing.> > >> > > I do not know Sons of Kp personally in any manner directly or> > > indirectly. I remember of sending money for a course 15 year back> > to> > > them, and there was no response once the money was gone. Just> > yesterday> > > I had a visitor of the Interntional Astronomers forum, at myplace,> > and> > > he too had a bad experience after sending money - No response.> > These are> > > cases from first hand and not on hearsay.> > >> > > Some wrong managment of money in hands of wrong staff members or> > > whatever, I dont know and neither care.> > >> > > regards> > >> > > Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > >> >

>> > >> > >> > >> > > @gro ups.com, "Punit Pandey" <punitp@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Correspondence course is as good as buying KP books and reading> > them.> > > There> > > > is no other benefit of the said correspondence course in my> > opinion. I> > > am> > > > saying that because I myself have participated in JyotishVisharad> > > course> > > > from KPSARI and I would not recommend it to anybody.> > > >> > > > In my opinion, the best way to learn KP is to read Nakshatra> > > Chintamani and> > > > Further Light on Nakshatra Chintamani by Chandrakant Bhatt and> > asking> > >

any> > > > question in this forum. Once you have thoroughly studied boththe> > > books by> > > > Chandrakant Bhatt, then only I would suggest you to read evensix> > > readers.> > > > This is my personal approach which has changed over a period of> > time.> > > Other> > > > senior KP astrologers may recommend KP 6 readers, but I think> > those> > > are> > > > slightly confusing and little too detailed for the beginner.> > > >> > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > >> > > > Punit Pandey> > > >> > > >> > > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Raakesh Sharma divsintl@ wrote:> > > >> > > > > Dr Hariharan , son of our reverend Guruji Late KSK offers> >

> > > correspondence course as well as books.> > > > >> > > > > You can contact him at> > > > >> > > > > KRISHNAMURTI PUBLICATIONS, F21-A, FIRST FLOOR, SPENCER PLAZA,> > 769,> > > ANNA> > > > > SALAI, CHENNAI-600 002.> > > > > E-mail : kpsari@ net.in> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Best regards> > > > >> > > > > Raakesh K Sharma> > > > >> > > > > --- On *Mon, 1/12/09, Gajender Singh gajender.singh@ * wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Gajender Singh gajender.singh@> > > > > Learning K P System> > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > > Monday, January 12, 2009, 3:15 AM> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > I would like to learn K P System .> > > > > Can I learn this on line?> > > > > Can I buy a course and learn ?> > > > > If so from where ? Please let me know.Thanks> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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Dear Bhaskar ji,What can I say?So, I still can hope to be able to understand the Readers, someday!RegardsSunil--- On Mon, 1/12/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Learning K P System Date: Monday, January 12, 2009, 7:13 PM

 

 

I Purchased these books ( KP Readers) in 1985 but understood them onlyin 2005.That is an honest confession.regards/Bhaskar.@gro ups.com, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ ...>wrote:>> Dear Swami ji,> Precisely the point I made few months ago. I have KP Readers since1992 and every time I sit down with it I just cannot continue. Withoutbeing disrespectful to anyone, I have to say that the language used in3rd reader is beyond my comprehension at least. In my opinion thosevolumes should be re-written to be readily understood by beginners.> I too tend to agree with reading the books you suggested but where canI get them?> I also read a suggestion just now to enrol in correspondence courseswhich is a welcome idea.> Regards>

Sunil>>>>> ____________ _________ _________ __> swami swami @gro ups.com> Monday, January 12, 2009 5:15:06 PM> Re: Learning K P System>>>> || Om Gurave Namah ||> Hare Ram Krishna> Dear Punit ji,> Your this opinion is excellentand I gree .I have also find thisappoach best one.> However , Students will do well if they read & digest Astrosecrets, Writings of K subramanium ( Sub lord speaks)and Vramamurti( Punarphoo) before reading KP Readers.> KP readers is a must But not for Starters.>> Application of KP rules is likly to be accurate if your suggestionsare followed.> with regards>>> OM TATSAT> RCSrivastava> ------------

--------- --------- --------- --------- ---------> Swami_ Astrologer [Teaching & Consultations]> http:\\www.cosmogra ce.com http:\\www.kaalvast u.com> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------> " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being whohas> created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ------------------ -->> -> Punit Pandey> @gro ups.com> Cc: gajender.singh@ sky.com> Monday, January 12, 2009 9:23 PM> Re: Learning K P System>> Correspondence course is as good as buying KP books and reading them.There is no other benefit of the said correspondence course in myopinion. I am saying that because I myself have participated in

JyotishVisharad course from KPSARI and I would not recommend it to anybody.>> In my opinion, the best way to learn KP is to read NakshatraChintamani and Further Light on Nakshatra Chintamani by ChandrakantBhatt and asking any question in this forum. Once you have thoroughlystudied both the books by Chandrakant Bhatt, then only I would suggestyou to read even six readers. This is my personal approach which haschanged over a period of time. Other senior KP astrologers may recommendKP 6 readers, but I think those are slightly confusing and little toodetailed for the beginner.>> Thanks & Regards,>> Punit Pandey>>>> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Raakesh Sharma divsintl >wrote:>> Dr Hariharan , son of our reverend Guruji Late KSK offerscorrespondence course as well as books.>> You can contact him

at>>> KRISHNAMURTI PUBLICATIONS, F21-A, FIRST FLOOR, SPENCER PLAZA, 769,ANNA SALAI, CHENNAI-600 002.> E-mail : kpsari net.in>>> Best regards>> Raakesh K Sharma>>> --- On Mon, 1/12/09, Gajender Singh <gajender.singh@ sky.com> wrote:>> Gajender Singh <gajender.singh@ sky.com>>> Learning K P System>> @gro ups.com> Monday, January 12, 2009, 3:15 AM>>>>>> I would like to learn K P System .> Can I learn this on line?> Can I buy a course and learn ?> If so from where ? Please let me know.Thanks>

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Dear Sunil ji,I can understand your feelings. Though I am not in agreement of most of what you have said. In my opinion, Shri KSK was a great teacher. He knew that learning astrology is much more than knowing a system. Shri KSK wanted to prepare people for astrology rather than just teaching a system. His objective was much bigger. He wanted to prepare people for future research and that is the reason he wanted to share as much as he learnt during his lifetime. When he talks about fundamental principles, karakatwa of planets, houses and signs, Hindu system, western system etc., he wanted to prepare foundation for the future of astrology. He knew very well that the basic principles of KP system are not much useful if not combines with the overall astrological concepts. He also understood very well the need of further development of this system. These were not the objectives for the other books like Nakshtra Chintamani etc. For the books like Nakshatra Chintamani, the objective was to communicate the essential points of KP system in a simple and easy to understand way...... to communicate the core ideas behind KP System.

We all understand the pros and cons of guidebook and textbook based approach. In my opinion, KP readers are not the guide books but the text books. On the other hand, books like Nakshatra Chintamani are guidebook for KP System. It it clear, to the point and talks only what is essential to know. But it doesn't give us the detailed information. According to me, books like Nakshatra Chintamani helps in understanding your textbooks - the KP readers. These are supportive books, but for knowing the real KP, there is no option but to dig into the readers. In my opinion, if we will try to write the amount of important information that we have in KP readers in a new book, we will end up with something very similar to KP readers.

Having said that, I understand that there is one more difficultly with the KP readers that the original books are modified by sons of Shri KSK. The original readers of 1965 and 1971 are not available. Though, as we had a debate few months back, I understand that the most of the books are perfectly usable. I can understand that modification has added some difficulty but it is the best available to us. Even with the modifications, KP readres are the gems. If you can get 1971 edition or 1965 edition, it help in understanding the changes. One can also understand the modifications by checking archive of this forum and also checking this file section (Difference%20in%20Readers/)

Thanks & Regards,Punit PandeyPS: As far as I know, the copyright for books goes for 50 years. If we take that the first set of books were written in 1965, the copyright is going to end in year 2015.

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Pandey ji,Thanks for the reply.

All along I was avoiding a direct remark about KP Readers lest I offend people in this forum through my unsolicited remarks. But let me just say what I wanted to, for a very long time. Teachng is an art and not everyone, irrespective of how learned he/she is, can be a good teacher. On the other hand, a person with ordinary inteligence can explain a point in a manner which students grasp immediately.

Professor KSK propounded and was a great exponent of KP theory but his readers, the way they are written (if indeed he wrote them by himself) fail to impress me. Reader III transends to mere recording of his statements as if somebody recorded his voice over a dictaphone and presented in a written manner.

I think, one will do a great service to Prof. KSK if he/she re-wrote these readers in a way that is more understanble to everyone, legally ofcourse by obtaining necessary permissions.I respect your view point

(reading Nakshatra Chintamani first) but that is like a " round about approach " rather than attacking the problem itself. In my opinion KP should be learned first and foremost through KP Readers for the simple reason that they are written by late Prof. KSK who gave us the theory. If they have become outdated or whatever, let us amend them and render them conducive to KP learning. I am not a legal expert but I think, like patents, copyright too has a lifespan. May be we should explore this angle and do our bit for the sake of KP.

RegardsSunil

 

--- On Mon, 1/12/09, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitpRe: Learning K P System

Date: Monday, January 12, 2009, 6:58 PM

 

 

 

Dear Sunil ji,

 

KP readers are wonderful books. I was not recommending them just because those are too detailed to comprehend by a beginner. Nakshatra Chintamani and other books I have mentioned are kind of summary, but if we have to go into the detail of KP system, there is no way other than to study KP readers. More information and more detail meaning more complexity and difficult to understand but without reading KP readers, in my opinion, KP knowledge can not complete.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Swami ji,Precisely the point I made few months ago. I have KP Readers since 1992 and every time I sit down with it I just cannot continue. Without being disrespectful to anyone, I have to say that the language used in 3rd reader is beyond my comprehension at least. In my opinion those volumes should be re-written to be readily understood by beginners.

I too tend to agree with reading the books you suggested but where can I get them? I also read a suggestion just now to enrol in correspondence courses which is a welcome idea.RegardsSunil

 

 

 

swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> @gro ups.comMonday, January 12, 2009 5:15:06 PM Re: Learning K P System

 

 

 

 

|| Om Gurave Namah ||Hare Ram Krishna

Dear Punit ji,

Your this opinion is excellentand I gree .I have also find this appoach best one.

However , Students will do well if they read & digest Astrosecrets,Writings of K subramanium ( Sub lord speaks)and V ramamurti( Punarphoo) before reading KP Readers.

KP readers is a must But not for Starters.

 

Application of KP rules is likly to be accurate if your suggestions are followed.

with regards

 

 

OM TATSATRCSrivastava------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Swami_ Astrologer [Teaching & Consultations]http:\\www.cosmogra ce.com http:\\www.kaalvast u.com

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --

 

 

-

 

Punit Pandey

 

@gro ups.com

Cc: gajender.singh@ sky.com

Monday, January 12, 2009 9:23 PM

Re: Learning K P System

 

 

 

 

Correspondence course is as good as buying KP books and reading them. There is no other benefit of the said correspondence course in my opinion. I am saying that because I myself have participated in Jyotish Visharad course from KPSARI and I would not recommend it to anybody.

 

In my opinion, the best way to learn KP is to read Nakshatra Chintamani and Further Light on Nakshatra Chintamani by Chandrakant Bhatt and asking any question in this forum. Once you have thoroughly studied both the books by Chandrakant Bhatt, then only I would suggest you to read even six readers. This is my personal approach which has changed over a period of time. Other senior KP astrologers may recommend KP 6 readers, but I think those are slightly confusing and little too detailed for the beginner.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

 

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Raakesh Sharma <divsintl > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dr Hariharan , son of our reverend Guruji Late KSK offers correspondence course as well as books.You can contact him at KRISHNAMURTI PUBLICATIONS, F21-A, FIRST FLOOR, SPENCER PLAZA, 769, ANNA SALAI, CHENNAI-600 002.E-mail : kpsari. net.in

Best regardsRaakesh K Sharma --- On Mon, 1/12/09, Gajender Singh <gajender.singh@ sky.com> wrote:

 

 

Gajender Singh <gajender.singh@ sky.com>

Learning K P System

@gro ups.com

Monday, January 12, 2009, 3:15 AM

 

 

 

 

 

I would like to learn K P System .

Can I learn this on line?

Can I buy a course and learn ?

If so from where ? Please let me know.Thanks

[Guest guest]

Dear Raichur ji,I know for a fact that patent rights expire after a time period. If I am not wrong it is 10 years. I am not a legal professional and even if copyright laws are eternal, we can obtain permission from copyright owners, amend the readers and let the profit accrue to the coyright owners. I am sure a workable agreement can be reached. Imagine the immense benefit that KP Theory and students would derive from such a possibility.RegardsSunil--- On Tue, 1/13/09, Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote:

Raichur-a-r <raichurarRe: Learning K P System , "Sunil Sharma" <sunilsharma21Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 7:25 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Sharma

The rediting or publishing KP,s book are not allowed by Copy Right Laws

Regarding getting books on KP please see todays posting

raichur anant mumbai phone 25062609--- On Mon, 12/1/09, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ > wrote:

Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ >Re: Learning K P System@gro ups.comMonday, 12 January, 2009, 10:51 PM

 

 

Dear Swami ji,Precisely the point I made few months ago. I have KP Readers since 1992 and every time I sit down with it I just cannot continue. Without being disrespectful to anyone, I have to say that the language used in 3rd reader is beyond my comprehension at least. In my opinion those volumes should be re-written to be readily understood by beginners.I too tend to agree with reading the books you suggested but where can I get them? I also read a suggestion just now to enrol in correspondence courses which is a welcome idea.RegardsSunil

 

 

 

swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com>@gro ups.comMonday, January 12, 2009 5:15:06 PMRe: Learning K P System

 

 

 

|| Om Gurave Namah ||Hare Ram Krishna

Dear Punit ji,

Your this opinion is excellentand I gree .I have also find this appoach best one.

However , Students will do well if they read & digest Astrosecrets,Writings of K subramanium ( Sub lord speaks)and V ramamurti( Punarphoo) before reading KP Readers.

KP readers is a must But not for Starters.

 

Application of KP rules is likly to be accurate if your suggestions are followed.

with regards

 

OM TATSATRCSrivastava------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Swami_ Astrologer [Teaching & Consultations]http:\\www.cosmogra ce.com http:\\www.kaalvast u..com ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --

 

-

Punit Pandey

@gro ups.com

Cc: gajender.singh@ sky.com

Monday, January 12, 2009 9:23 PM

Re: Learning K P System

 

 

 

Correspondence course is as good as buying KP books and reading them. There is no other benefit of the said correspondence course in my opinion. I am saying that because I myself have participated in Jyotish Visharad course from KPSARI and I would not recommend it to anybody.

 

In my opinion, the best way to learn KP is to read Nakshatra Chintamani and Further Light on Nakshatra Chintamani by Chandrakant Bhatt and asking any question in this forum. Once you have thoroughly studied both the books by Chandrakant Bhatt, then only I would suggest you to read even six readers. This is my personal approach which has changed over a period of time. Other senior KP astrologers may recommend KP 6 readers, but I think those are slightly confusing and little too detailed for the beginner.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Raakesh Sharma <divsintl > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dr Hariharan , son of our reverend Guruji Late KSK offers correspondence course as well as books.You can contact him at KRISHNAMURTI PUBLICATIONS, F21-A, FIRST FLOOR, SPENCER PLAZA, 769, ANNA SALAI, CHENNAI-600 002.E-mail : kpsari. net.inBest regardsRaakesh K Sharma --- On Mon, 1/12/09, Gajender Singh <gajender.singh@ sky.com> wrote:

 

Gajender Singh <gajender.singh@ sky.com>

Learning K P System

@gro ups.comMonday, January 12, 2009, 3:15 AM

 

 

 

 

 

I would like to learn K P System .

Can I learn this on line?

Can I buy a course and learn ?

If so from where ? Please let me know.Thanks

 

 

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Dear Sunilji,

 

The exact point about the KP readers has been put by Shri Punitji. These

are like text books on KP, but before one understands them, it is better

to ue the guide books like Nakshatra Chintamani etc available in the

markets, before we can hope of understanding the Readers, the way they

are to be understood.

 

regards/Bhaskar

 

 

, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21

wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji,

> What can I say?

> So, I still can hope to be able to understand the Readers, someday!

> Regards

> Sunil

>

> --- On Mon, 1/12/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish

> Re: Learning K P System

>

> Monday, January 12, 2009, 7:13 PM

>

I Purchased these books ( KP Readers) in 1985 but understood them only

> in 2005.

>

> That is an honest confession.

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

>

> @gro ups.com, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ ...>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Swami ji,

> > Precisely the point I made few months ago. I have KP Readers since

> 1992 and every time I sit down with it I just cannot continue. Without

> being disrespectful to anyone, I have to say that the language used in

> 3rd reader is beyond my comprehension at least. In my opinion those

> volumes should be re-written to be readily understood by beginners.

> > I too tend to agree with reading the books you suggested but where

can

> I get them?

> > I also read a suggestion just now to enrol in correspondence courses

> which is a welcome idea.

> > Regards

> > Sunil

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > swami swami@

> > @gro ups.com

> > Monday, January 12, 2009 5:15:06 PM

> > Re: Learning K P System

> >

> >

> >

> > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> > Hare Ram Krishna

> > Dear Punit ji,

> > Your this opinion is excellentand I gree .I have also find this

> appoach best one.

> > However , Students will do well if they read & digest

> Astrosecrets, Writings of K subramanium ( Sub lord speaks)and V

> ramamurti( Punarphoo) before reading KP Readers.

> > KP readers is a must But not for Starters.

> >

> > Application of KP rules is likly to be accurate if your suggestions

> are followed.

> > with regards

> >

> >

> > OM TATSAT

> > RCSrivastava

> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------

> > Swami_ Astrologer [Teaching & Consultations]

> > http:\\www.cosmogra ce.com http:\\www.kaalvast u.com

> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------

> > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being

who

> has

> > created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "

> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------

> --------- --

> >

> > -

> > Punit Pandey

> > @gro ups.com

> > Cc: gajender.singh@ sky.com

> > Monday, January 12, 2009 9:23 PM

> > Re: Learning K P System

> >

> > Correspondence course is as good as buying KP books and reading

them.

> There is no other benefit of the said correspondence course in my

> opinion. I am saying that because I myself have participated in

Jyotish

> Visharad course from KPSARI and I would not recommend it to anybody.

> >

> > In my opinion, the best way to learn KP is to read Nakshatra

> Chintamani and Further Light on Nakshatra Chintamani by Chandrakant

> Bhatt and asking any question in this forum. Once you have thoroughly

> studied both the books by Chandrakant Bhatt, then only I would suggest

> you to read even six readers. This is my personal approach which has

> changed over a period of time. Other senior KP astrologers may

recommend

> KP 6 readers, but I think those are slightly confusing and little too

> detailed for the beginner.

> >

> > Thanks & Regards,

> >

> > Punit Pandey

> >

> >

> >

> > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Raakesh Sharma divsintl >

> wrote:

> >

> > Dr Hariharan , son of our reverend Guruji Late KSK offers

> correspondence course as well as books.

> >

> > You can contact him at

> >

> >

> > KRISHNAMURTI PUBLICATIONS, F21-A, FIRST FLOOR, SPENCER PLAZA, 769,

> ANNA SALAI, CHENNAI-600 002.

> > E-mail : kpsari@ net.in

> >

> >

> > Best regards

> >

> > Raakesh K Sharma

> >

> >

> > --- On Mon, 1/12/09, Gajender Singh <gajender.singh@ sky.com> wrote:

> >

> > Gajender Singh <gajender.singh@ sky.com>

> >

> > Learning K P System

> >

> > @gro ups.com

> > Monday, January 12, 2009, 3:15 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I would like to learn K P System .

> > Can I learn this on line?

> > Can I buy a course and learn ?

> > If so from where ? Please let me know.Thanks

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Pandey ji,I apologize for using the wrong anology. I was alluding to the writing skills of Shri KSK and ended up using the word "teacher" instead, entirely negating his profession itself. The slip up was inadvertant.I fully agree with what you have said in your mail but from my perspective, would like to add my experinece/s.

I have been oscillating between Vedic and KP ever since I got interested in astrology in 1992. I was fortunate to stumble upon KP even in my early days. I bought all the readers and brought them to Nigeria where I reside but could go no further for reasons already mentioned. I did not have access to any teacher till the advent of internet, which, revived my interest in astrology once again. The beauty of KP system is it does away with lots of details like yoga, combustion etc. which makes it simpler to learn and hence attractive to beginners like me. Forgive me if I say this but I do not like to go about persuing an objective in the round about way. My persistence with KP Readers stems from the fact that "Why not learn from KP Readers written by the originator of this theory, why through books written by others". Unfortunately, in the present scenario. I cannot have my way. Not until I, or someone else, decides to change it.

I would love to, but I neither have that intellectual capability nor the insight. May be some day.That is all I have to say and this is my last message on this subject, at least from my side. You may still opt to reply if you so desire as I always value your input.RegardsSunil --- On Tue, 1/13/09, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitpRe: Learning K P System Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 10:44 AM

 

 

Dear Sunil ji,I can understand your feelings. Though I am not in agreement of most of what you have said. In my opinion, Shri KSK was a great teacher. He knew that learning astrology is much more than knowing a system. Shri KSK wanted to prepare people for astrology rather than just teaching a system. His objective was much bigger. He wanted to prepare people for future research and that is the reason he wanted to share as much as he learnt during his lifetime. When he talks about fundamental principles, karakatwa of planets, houses and signs, Hindu system, western system etc., he wanted to prepare foundation for the future of astrology. He knew very well that the basic principles of KP system are not much useful if not combines with the overall astrological concepts. He also understood very well the need of further development of this system. These were not the objectives for the other books like Nakshtra Chintamani etc. For the books like

Nakshatra Chintamani, the objective was to communicate the essential points of KP system in a simple and easy to understand way...... to communicate the core ideas behind KP System. We all understand the pros and cons of guidebook and textbook based approach. In my opinion, KP readers are not the guide books but the text books. On the other hand, books like Nakshatra Chintamani are guidebook for KP System. It it clear, to the point and talks only what is essential to know. But it doesn't give us the detailed information. According to me, books like Nakshatra Chintamani helps in understanding your textbooks - the KP readers. These are supportive books, but for knowing the real KP, there is no option but to dig into the readers. In my opinion, if we will try to write the amount of important information that we have in KP readers in a new book, we will end up with something very similar to KP readers. Having said that, I understand

that there is one more difficultly with the KP readers that the original books are modified by sons of Shri KSK. The original readers of 1965 and 1971 are not available. Though, as we had a debate few months back, I understand that the most of the books are perfectly usable. I can understand that modification has added some difficulty but it is the best available to us. Even with the modifications, KP readres are the gems. If you can get 1971 edition or 1965 edition, it help in understanding the changes. One can also understand the modifications by checking archive of this forum and also checking this file section (http://groups. / group/k_p_ system Difference% 20in%20Readers/)Thanks & Regards,Punit PandeyPS: As far as I know, the copyright for books goes for 50 years. If we take that the first

set of books were written in 1965, the copyright is going to end in year 2015.

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Pandey ji,Thanks for the reply.

All along I was avoiding a direct remark about KP Readers lest I offend people in this forum through my unsolicited remarks. But let me just say what I wanted to, for a very long time. Teachng is an art and not everyone, irrespective of how learned he/she is, can be a good teacher. On the other hand, a person with ordinary inteligence can explain a point in a manner which students grasp immediately.Professor KSK propounded and was a great exponent of KP theory but his readers, the way they are written (if indeed he wrote them by himself) fail to impress me. Reader III transends to mere recording of his statements as if somebody recorded his voice over a dictaphone and presented in a written manner.I think, one will do a great service to Prof. KSK if he/she re-wrote these readers in a way that is more understanble to everyone, legally ofcourse by obtaining necessary permissions.I respect your view point

(reading Nakshatra Chintamani first) but that is like a "round about approach" rather than attacking the problem itself. In my opinion KP should be learned first and foremost through KP Readers for the simple reason that they are written by late Prof. KSK who gave us the theory. If they have become outdated or whatever, let us amend them and render them conducive to KP learning. I am not a legal expert but I think, like patents, copyright too has a lifespan. May be we should explore this angle and do our bit for the sake of KP.RegardsSunil

 

 

--- On Mon, 1/12/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

 

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

Re: Learning K P System

@gro ups.comMonday, January 12, 2009, 6:58 PM

 

 

 

 

Dear Sunil ji,

 

KP readers are wonderful books. I was not recommending them just because those are too detailed to comprehend by a beginner. Nakshatra Chintamani and other books I have mentioned are kind of summary, but if we have to go into the detail of KP system, there is no way other than to study KP readers. More information and more detail meaning more complexity and difficult to understand but without reading KP readers, in my opinion, KP knowledge can not complete.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

 

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Swami ji,Precisely the point I made few months ago. I have KP Readers since 1992 and every time I sit down with it I just cannot continue. Without being disrespectful to anyone, I have to say that the language used in 3rd reader is beyond my comprehension at least. In my opinion those volumes should be re-written to be readily understood by beginners.I too tend to agree with reading the books you suggested but where can I get them? I also read a suggestion just now to enrol in correspondence courses which is a welcome idea.RegardsSunil

 

 

 

 

swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com>

@gro ups.com

 

 

Monday, January 12, 2009 5:15:06 PM Re: Learning K P System

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

|| Om Gurave Namah ||Hare Ram Krishna

Dear Punit ji,

Your this opinion is excellentand I gree .I have also find this appoach best one.

However , Students will do well if they read & digest Astrosecrets,Writings of K subramanium ( Sub lord speaks)and V ramamurti( Punarphoo) before reading KP Readers.

KP readers is a must But not for Starters.

 

Application of KP rules is likly to be accurate if your suggestions are followed.

with regards

 

 

OM TATSATRCSrivastava------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Swami_ Astrologer [Teaching & Consultations]http:\\www.cosmogra ce.com http:\\www.kaalvast u.com

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --

 

 

-

Punit Pandey

 

@gro ups.com

Cc: gajender.singh@ sky.com

Monday, January 12, 2009 9:23 PM

Re: Learning K P System

 

 

 

 

Correspondence course is as good as buying KP books and reading them. There is no other benefit of the said correspondence course in my opinion. I am saying that because I myself have participated in Jyotish Visharad course from KPSARI and I would not recommend it to anybody.

 

In my opinion, the best way to learn KP is to read Nakshatra Chintamani and Further Light on Nakshatra Chintamani by Chandrakant Bhatt and asking any question in this forum. Once you have thoroughly studied both the books by Chandrakant Bhatt, then only I would suggest you to read even six readers. This is my personal approach which has changed over a period of time. Other senior KP astrologers may recommend KP 6 readers, but I think those are slightly confusing and little too detailed for the beginner.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

 

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Raakesh Sharma <divsintl > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dr Hariharan , son of our reverend Guruji Late KSK offers correspondence course as well as books.You can contact him at KRISHNAMURTI PUBLICATIONS, F21-A, FIRST FLOOR, SPENCER PLAZA, 769, ANNA SALAI, CHENNAI-600 002.E-mail : kpsari. net.inBest regardsRaakesh K Sharma --- On Mon, 1/12/09, Gajender Singh <gajender.singh@ sky.com> wrote:

 

 

Gajender Singh <gajender.singh@ sky.com>

Learning K P System

@gro ups.com

Monday, January 12, 2009, 3:15 AM

 

 

 

 

 

I would like to learn K P System .

Can I learn this on line?

Can I buy a course and learn ?

If so from where ? Please let me know.Thanks

[Guest guest]

Dear Sunil Paul

Good Evening.

It appeared from your message that you intend to publish a book and you need an assistant.I wish to offer myself to take up the task.The problem is I reside far away from Chennai. If we could sort out a way I shall be happy to participate.

with regards.

Dr. Luther Rath

13th Jan 2009

 

 

 

Raichur-a-r <raichurar ; delhi1955 <delhi1955Tuesday, January 13, 2009 12:38:26 PMRe: Re: Learning K P System

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Hanu Bhatia

Will one be infringing COPY RIGHT RULES

by rewring the KP books?I am sending a copy of KP Diary for your use. It is a New Years Gift I send it usually in DEc

 

raichur anant mumbai phone 25062609--- On Tue, 13/1/09, delhi1955 <delhi1955 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

delhi1955 <delhi1955 (AT) (DOT) co.in> Re: Learning K P System@gro ups.comTuesday, 13 January, 2009, 11:32 AM-DearBhaskar ,

--I had attended a short term course a few years ago organised by mr. subramanian son of late sri Kp I could not gain much from the course however i read all the readers and other books brought out by them .The books are very badly produced and badly edited.I regularly buy the annual KP book to find out the daily transits.

I am a publisher by profession and i feelthere is certainly a good book on KP astrology if any one of you canput it togather i would bring it out.

sunil paul chennai

@gro ups.com, hanu bhatia <hanubhatia@. ..> wrote:

>

> I too intend to learn KP and also have requested Punitji for advising if anybody based out of Bombay can take private or personal tutions on KP. I do not mind paying any fee for this but if somebody can advise on good KP astrologer, that would be great help from this forum. I intend to learn from basics till the last straw of KP.

> Can anybody help me?? Thanks Hanu

> > --- On Mon, 1/12/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:

> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>

> Re: Learning K P System

> @gro ups.com

> Monday, January 12, 2009, 11:42 PM

> > > > > > > > For those lovers of Kp who do not have any KP courses in their city of

> Location, I recommend -

> > 1) Books by Chandrakant Bhatt.

> > 2) Books by Suresh Sahasne ( In Hindi and Marathi )

> > 3) Astrosecrets ( All 3 Parts )

> > 4) KP Readers

> > ( All above in that Order ),

> > and secondly keep friendship with some KP astrologer in your area who

> can guide you once in a while. After that You do not need anybody. these

> books are enough, This forum is enough and Your experience with charts

> is enough.

> > Bhaskar.

> > @gro ups.com, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ ...>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > Oh really? That is an eye opener! I just wrote a reply on this forum

> and wanted to join the correspondence course.

> > As regards KP Readers, I too have the same opinion. They are very

> badly written. Wrote an email to KP Book sellers (two of them) and no

> reply whatsoever. I am going to ask a friend of mine in Chennai to buy

> those books and mail them to someone in Goa who will then send it to me.

> > Bought KP Astro 3.0 in July/August with great deal of enthusiasm. Till

> day it is not working. Wrote to Mr. Rangarajan who profers certain

> cosmetic suggestions everytime but it just does not work. And to think

> of it, I was the one who was advocating this software to Mr.

> Sunaparantha and others on various fora, including this very one

> > Regards.

> > Sunil

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

> > @gro ups.com

> > Monday, January 12, 2009 5:09:00 PM

> > Re: Learning K P System

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Punitji,

> >

> > A beautiful unbiased reply, which is eaxctly what I advise all those

> who

> > come to me asking how to learn KP. I too recommend Shri Chandrakant

> > Bhatts books first, and then the Readers. I agree that the readers are

> > very much confusing.

> >

> > I do not know Sons of Kp personally in any manner directly or

> > indirectly. I remember of sending money for a course 15 year back to

> > them, and there was no response once the money was gone. Just

> yesterday

> > I had a visitor of the Interntional Astronomers forum, at my place,

> and

> > he too had a bad experience after sending money - No response. These

> are

> > cases from first hand and not on hearsay.

> >

> > Some wrong managment of money in hands of wrong staff members or

> > whatever, I dont know and neither care.

> >

> > regards

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > @gro ups.com, "Punit Pandey" punitp@

wrote:

> > >

> > > Correspondence course is as good as buying KP books and reading

> them.

> > There

> > > is no other benefit of the said correspondence course in my opinion.

> I

> > am

> > > saying that because I myself have participated in Jyotish Visharad

> > course

> > > from KPSARI and I would not recommend it to anybody.

> > >

> > > In my opinion, the best way to learn KP is to read Nakshatra

> > Chintamani and

> > > Further Light on Nakshatra Chintamani by Chandrakant Bhatt and

> asking

> > any

> > > question in this forum. Once you have thoroughly studied both the

> > books by

> > > Chandrakant Bhatt, then only I would suggest you to read even six

> > readers.

> > > This is my personal approach which has changed over a period of

> time.

> > Other

> > > senior KP astrologers may recommend KP 6 readers, but I think those

> > are

> > > slightly confusing and little too detailed for the beginner.

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards,

> > >

> > > Punit Pandey

> > >

> > >

> > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Raakesh Sharma divsintl@ wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dr Hariharan , son of our reverend Guruji Late KSK offers

> > > > correspondence course as well as books.

> > > >

> > > > You can contact him at

> > > >

> > > > KRISHNAMURTI PUBLICATIONS, F21-A, FIRST FLOOR, SPENCER PLAZA, 769,

> > ANNA

> > > > SALAI, CHENNAI-600 002.

> > > > E-mail : kpsari@ net.in

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Best regards

> > > >

> > > > Raakesh K Sharma

> > > >

> > > > --- On *Mon, 1/12/09, Gajender Singh gajender.singh@ ....* wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Gajender Singh gajender.singh@ ...

> > > > Learning K P System

> > > > @gro ups.com

> > > > Monday, January 12, 2009, 3:15 AM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I would like to learn K P System .

> > > > Can I learn this on line?

> > > > Can I buy a course and learn ?

> > > > If so from where ? Please let me know.Thanks

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

------------ --------- --------- ------

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Sunilji,

For God sake do not be disheartened. To learn astrology is not an easy task. But one can and can master it if he has a will to do so. Now in this age of inter-net you can learn through the group or through correspondance course and through books iven if you are at Nigeria or the poles.

Go ahead with hope and endeavor.

Dr. Luther Rath

 

 

 

Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21 Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 4:12:23 PMRe: Learning K P System

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Pandey ji,I apologize for using the wrong anology. I was alluding to the writing skills of Shri KSK and ended up using the word "teacher" instead, entirely negating his profession itself. The slip up was inadvertant.I fully agree with what you have said in your mail but from my perspective, would like to add my experinece/s.

I have been oscillating between Vedic and KP ever since I got interested in astrology in 1992. I was fortunate to stumble upon KP even in my early days. I bought all the readers and brought them to Nigeria where I reside but could go no further for reasons already mentioned. I did not have access to any teacher till the advent of internet, which, revived my interest in astrology once again. The beauty of KP system is it does away with lots of details like yoga, combustion etc. which makes it simpler to learn and hence attractive to beginners like me. Forgive me if I say this but I do not like to go about persuing an objective in the round about way. My persistence with KP Readers stems from the fact that "Why not learn from KP Readers written by the originator of this theory, why through books written by others". Unfortunately, in the present scenario. I cannot have my way. Not until I, or someone else, decides to change it.

I would love to, but I neither have that intellectual capability nor the insight. May be some day.That is all I have to say and this is my last message on this subject, at least from my side. You may still opt to reply if you so desire as I always value your input.RegardsSunil --- On Tue, 1/13/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: Learning K P System@gro ups.comTuesday, January 13, 2009, 10:44 AM

 

 

Dear Sunil ji,I can understand your feelings. Though I am not in agreement of most of what you have said. In my opinion, Shri KSK was a great teacher. He knew that learning astrology is much more than knowing a system. Shri KSK wanted to prepare people for astrology rather than just teaching a system. His objective was much bigger. He wanted to prepare people for future research and that is the reason he wanted to share as much as he learnt during his lifetime. When he talks about fundamental principles, karakatwa of planets, houses and signs, Hindu system, western system etc., he wanted to prepare foundation for the future of astrology. He knew very well that the basic principles of KP system are not much useful if not combines with the overall astrological concepts. He also understood very well the need of further development of this system. These were not the objectives for the other books like Nakshtra Chintamani etc. For the books like

Nakshatra Chintamani, the objective was to communicate the essential points of KP system in a simple and easy to understand way...... to communicate the core ideas behind KP System. We all understand the pros and cons of guidebook and textbook based approach. In my opinion, KP readers are not the guide books but the text books. On the other hand, books like Nakshatra Chintamani are guidebook for KP System. It it clear, to the point and talks only what is essential to know. But it doesn't give us the detailed information. According to me, books like Nakshatra Chintamani helps in understanding your textbooks - the KP readers. These are supportive books, but for knowing the real KP, there is no option but to dig into the readers. In my opinion, if we will try to write the amount of important information that we have in KP readers in a new book, we will end up with something very similar to KP readers. Having said that, I understand

that there is one more difficultly with the KP readers that the original books are modified by sons of Shri KSK. The original readers of 1965 and 1971 are not available. Though, as we had a debate few months back, I understand that the most of the books are perfectly usable. I can understand that modification has added some difficulty but it is the best available to us. Even with the modifications, KP readres are the gems. If you can get 1971 edition or 1965 edition, it help in understanding the changes. One can also understand the modifications by checking archive of this forum and also checking this file section (http://groups. / group/k_p_ system Difference% 20in%20Readers/)Thanks & Regards,Punit PandeyPS: As far as I know, the copyright for books goes for 50 years. If we take that the first

set of books were written in 1965, the copyright is going to end in year 2015.

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Pandey ji,Thanks for the reply.

All along I was avoiding a direct remark about KP Readers lest I offend people in this forum through my unsolicited remarks. But let me just say what I wanted to, for a very long time. Teachng is an art and not everyone, irrespective of how learned he/she is, can be a good teacher. On the other hand, a person with ordinary inteligence can explain a point in a manner which students grasp immediately.Professor KSK propounded and was a great exponent of KP theory but his readers, the way they are written (if indeed he wrote them by himself) fail to impress me. Reader III transends to mere recording of his statements as if somebody recorded his voice over a dictaphone and presented in a written manner.I think, one will do a great service to Prof. KSK if he/she re-wrote these readers in a way that is more understanble to everyone, legally ofcourse by obtaining necessary permissions.I respect your view point

(reading Nakshatra Chintamani first) but that is like a "round about approach" rather than attacking the problem itself. In my opinion KP should be learned first and foremost through KP Readers for the simple reason that they are written by late Prof. KSK who gave us the theory. If they have become outdated or whatever, let us amend them and render them conducive to KP learning. I am not a legal expert but I think, like patents, copyright too has a lifespan. May be we should explore this angle and do our bit for the sake of KP.RegardsSunil

 

 

--- On Mon, 1/12/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

 

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

Re: Learning K P System

@gro ups.comMonday, January 12, 2009, 6:58 PM

 

 

 

 

Dear Sunil ji,

 

KP readers are wonderful books. I was not recommending them just because those are too detailed to comprehend by a beginner. Nakshatra Chintamani and other books I have mentioned are kind of summary, but if we have to go into the detail of KP system, there is no way other than to study KP readers. More information and more detail meaning more complexity and difficult to understand but without reading KP readers, in my opinion, KP knowledge can not complete.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

 

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Swami ji,Precisely the point I made few months ago. I have KP Readers since 1992 and every time I sit down with it I just cannot continue. Without being disrespectful to anyone, I have to say that the language used in 3rd reader is beyond my comprehension at least. In my opinion those volumes should be re-written to be readily understood by beginners.I too tend to agree with reading the books you suggested but where can I get them? I also read a suggestion just now to enrol in correspondence courses which is a welcome idea.RegardsSunil

 

 

 

 

swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com>

@gro ups.com

 

 

Monday, January 12, 2009 5:15:06 PM Re: Learning K P System

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

|| Om Gurave Namah ||Hare Ram Krishna

Dear Punit ji,

Your this opinion is excellentand I gree .I have also find this appoach best one.

However , Students will do well if they read & digest Astrosecrets,Writings of K subramanium ( Sub lord speaks)and V ramamurti( Punarphoo) before reading KP Readers.

KP readers is a must But not for Starters.

 

Application of KP rules is likly to be accurate if your suggestions are followed.

with regards

 

 

OM TATSATRCSrivastava------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Swami_ Astrologer [Teaching & Consultations]http:\\www.cosmogra ce.com http:\\www.kaalvast u.com

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --

 

 

-

Punit Pandey

 

@gro ups.com

Cc: gajender.singh@ sky.com

Monday, January 12, 2009 9:23 PM

Re: Learning K P System

 

 

 

 

Correspondence course is as good as buying KP books and reading them. There is no other benefit of the said correspondence course in my opinion. I am saying that because I myself have participated in Jyotish Visharad course from KPSARI and I would not recommend it to anybody.

 

In my opinion, the best way to learn KP is to read Nakshatra Chintamani and Further Light on Nakshatra Chintamani by Chandrakant Bhatt and asking any question in this forum. Once you have thoroughly studied both the books by Chandrakant Bhatt, then only I would suggest you to read even six readers. This is my personal approach which has changed over a period of time. Other senior KP astrologers may recommend KP 6 readers, but I think those are slightly confusing and little too detailed for the beginner.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

 

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Raakesh Sharma <divsintl > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dr Hariharan , son of our reverend Guruji Late KSK offers correspondence course as well as books.You can contact him at KRISHNAMURTI PUBLICATIONS, F21-A, FIRST FLOOR, SPENCER PLAZA, 769, ANNA SALAI, CHENNAI-600 002.E-mail : kpsari. net.inBest regardsRaakesh K Sharma --- On Mon, 1/12/09, Gajender Singh <gajender.singh@ sky.com> wrote:

 

 

Gajender Singh <gajender.singh@ sky.com>

Learning K P System

@gro ups.com

Monday, January 12, 2009, 3:15 AM

 

 

 

 

 

I would like to learn K P System .

Can I learn this on line?

Can I buy a course and learn ?

If so from where ? Please let me know.Thanks

[Guest guest]

Sunil ji,QUOTEThe Copyright Term Extension Act (CTEA) of 1998 extended copyright terms in the United States by 20 years. Since the Copyright Act of 1976, copyright would last for the life of the author plus 50 years, or 75 years for a work of corporate authorship.

UNQUOTEI have first hand experience talking to KP people and my experience is not very good. I am not optimistic about copyright talks with them. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Raichur ji,I know for a fact that patent rights expire after a time period. If I am not wrong it is 10 years. I am not a legal professional and even if copyright laws are eternal, we can obtain permission from copyright owners, amend the readers and let the profit accrue to the coyright owners. I am sure a workable agreement can be reached. Imagine the immense benefit that KP Theory and students would derive from such a possibility.

RegardsSunil--- On Tue, 1/13/09, Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote:

Raichur-a-r <raichurarRe: Learning K P System

, " Sunil Sharma " <sunilsharma21

Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 7:25 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Sharma

The rediting or publishing KP,s book are not allowed by Copy Right Laws

Regarding getting books on KP please see todays posting

raichur anant mumbai phone 25062609--- On Mon, 12/1/09, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ > wrote:

Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ >Re: Learning K P System

@gro ups.comMonday, 12 January, 2009, 10:51 PM

 

 

Dear Swami ji,Precisely the point I made few months ago. I have KP Readers since 1992 and every time I sit down with it I just cannot continue. Without being disrespectful to anyone, I have to say that the language used in 3rd reader is beyond my comprehension at least. In my opinion those volumes should be re-written to be readily understood by beginners.

I too tend to agree with reading the books you suggested but where can I get them? I also read a suggestion just now to enrol in correspondence courses which is a welcome idea.RegardsSunil

 

 

 

swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com>@gro ups.com

Monday, January 12, 2009 5:15:06 PMRe: Learning K P System

 

 

 

 

|| Om Gurave Namah ||Hare Ram Krishna

Dear Punit ji,

Your this opinion is excellentand I gree .I have also find this appoach best one.

However , Students will do well if they read & digest Astrosecrets,Writings of K subramanium ( Sub lord speaks)and V ramamurti( Punarphoo) before reading KP Readers.

KP readers is a must But not for Starters.

 

Application of KP rules is likly to be accurate if your suggestions are followed.

with regards

 

OM TATSATRCSrivastava------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Swami_ Astrologer [Teaching & Consultations]http:\\www.cosmogra ce.com http:\\www.kaalvast u..com

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. " ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --

 

 

-

 

Punit Pandey

@gro ups.com

Cc: gajender.singh@ sky.com

Monday, January 12, 2009 9:23 PM

Re: Learning K P System

 

 

 

Correspondence course is as good as buying KP books and reading them. There is no other benefit of the said correspondence course in my opinion. I am saying that because I myself have participated in Jyotish Visharad course from KPSARI and I would not recommend it to anybody.

 

In my opinion, the best way to learn KP is to read Nakshatra Chintamani and Further Light on Nakshatra Chintamani by Chandrakant Bhatt and asking any question in this forum. Once you have thoroughly studied both the books by Chandrakant Bhatt, then only I would suggest you to read even six readers. This is my personal approach which has changed over a period of time. Other senior KP astrologers may recommend KP 6 readers, but I think those are slightly confusing and little too detailed for the beginner.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Raakesh Sharma <divsintl > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dr Hariharan , son of our reverend Guruji Late KSK offers correspondence course as well as books.You can contact him at KRISHNAMURTI PUBLICATIONS, F21-A, FIRST FLOOR, SPENCER PLAZA, 769, ANNA SALAI, CHENNAI-600 002.E-mail : kpsari. net.in

Best regardsRaakesh K Sharma --- On Mon, 1/12/09, Gajender Singh <gajender.singh@ sky.com> wrote:

 

Gajender Singh <gajender.singh@ sky.com>

Learning K P System

@gro ups.comMonday, January 12, 2009, 3:15 AM

 

 

 

 

 

I would like to learn K P System .

Can I learn this on line?

Can I buy a course and learn ?

If so from where ? Please let me know.Thanks

 

 

 

Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now.

[Guest guest]

Dear Sirs,

Prof.KSK was a great guru.He taught astrology at Bharathiya Vidya Bhavan in Chennai and other cities.He had students all over the world and his monthly magazine Astrology and

Athrishta was very well received.

In fact I happened to pick up the readers from City library in Bangalore in the early seventies.and read and reread several times. If you find it difficult to follow,it may be you want rush to predictions part even before understanding the basic principles of astrology.

More over Guru bakthi by itself is capable of making one a master even better than one who

learns from the master diretly like Ekalaiva.

I wanted say this with good intentiom and no offence meant.

Good luck.

Jammalamadugu Rangan

 

 

'

 

--- On Tue, 13/1/09, Luther Rath <rathluther wrote:

Luther Rath <rathlutherRe: Learning K P System Date: Tuesday, 13 January, 2009, 5:09 PM

 

 

 

 

Dear Sunilji,

For God sake do not be disheartened. To learn astrology is not an easy task. But one can and can master it if he has a will to do so. Now in this age of inter-net you can learn through the group or through correspondance course and through books iven if you are at Nigeria or the poles.

Go ahead with hope and endeavor.

Dr. Luther Rath

 

 

 

Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ >@gro ups.comTuesday, January 13, 2009 4:12:23 PMRe: Learning K P System

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Pandey ji,I apologize for using the wrong anology. I was alluding to the writing skills of Shri KSK and ended up using the word "teacher" instead, entirely negating his profession itself. The slip up was inadvertant.I fully agree with what you have said in your mail but from my perspective, would like to add my experinece/s.

I have been oscillating between Vedic and KP ever since I got interested in astrology in 1992. I was fortunate to stumble upon KP even in my early days. I bought all the readers and brought them to Nigeria where I reside but could go no further for reasons already mentioned. I did not have access to any teacher till the advent of internet, which, revived my interest in astrology once again. The beauty of KP system is it does away with lots of details like yoga, combustion etc. which makes it simpler to learn and hence attractive to beginners like me. Forgive me if I say this but I do not like to go about persuing an objective in the round about way. My persistence with KP Readers stems from the fact that "Why not learn from KP Readers written by the originator of this theory, why through books written by others". Unfortunately, in the present scenario. I cannot have my way. Not until I, or someone else, decides to change it.

I would love to, but I neither have that intellectual capability nor the insight. May be some day.That is all I have to say and this is my last message on this subject, at least from my side. You may still opt to reply if you so desire as I always value your input.RegardsSunil --- On Tue, 1/13/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: Learning K P System@gro ups.comTuesday, January 13, 2009, 10:44 AM

 

 

Dear Sunil ji,I can understand your feelings. Though I am not in agreement of most of what you have said. In my opinion, Shri KSK was a great teacher. He knew that learning astrology is much more than knowing a system. Shri KSK wanted to prepare people for astrology rather than just teaching a system. His objective was much bigger. He wanted to prepare people for future research and that is the reason he wanted to share as much as he learnt during his lifetime. When he talks about fundamental principles, karakatwa of planets, houses and signs, Hindu system, western system etc., he wanted to prepare foundation for the future of astrology. He knew very well that the basic principles of KP system are not much useful if not combines with the overall astrological concepts. He also understood very well the need of further development of this system. These were not the objectives for the other books like Nakshtra Chintamani etc. For the books like

Nakshatra Chintamani, the objective was to communicate the essential points of KP system in a simple and easy to understand way...... to communicate the core ideas behind KP System. We all understand the pros and cons of guidebook and textbook based approach. In my opinion, KP readers are not the guide books but the text books. On the other hand, books like Nakshatra Chintamani are guidebook for KP System. It it clear, to the point and talks only what is essential to know. But it doesn't give us the detailed information. According to me, books like Nakshatra Chintamani helps in understanding your textbooks - the KP readers. These are supportive books, but for knowing the real KP, there is no option but to dig into the readers. In my opinion, if we will try to write the amount of important information that we have in KP readers in a new book, we will end up with something very similar to KP readers. Having said that, I understand

that there is one more difficultly with the KP readers that the original books are modified by sons of Shri KSK. The original readers of 1965 and 1971 are not available. Though, as we had a debate few months back, I understand that the most of the books are perfectly usable. I can understand that modification has added some difficulty but it is the best available to us. Even with the modifications, KP readres are the gems. If you can get 1971 edition or 1965 edition, it help in understanding the changes. One can also understand the modifications by checking archive of this forum and also checking this file section (http://groups. / group/k_p_ system Difference% 20in%20Readers/)Thanks & Regards,Punit PandeyPS: As far as I know, the copyright for books goes for 50 years. If we take that the first

set of books were written in 1965, the copyright is going to end in year 2015.

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Pandey ji,Thanks for the reply.

All along I was avoiding a direct remark about KP Readers lest I offend people in this forum through my unsolicited remarks. But let me just say what I wanted to, for a very long time. Teachng is an art and not everyone, irrespective of how learned he/she is, can be a good teacher. On the other hand, a person with ordinary inteligence can explain a point in a manner which students grasp immediately.Professor KSK propounded and was a great exponent of KP theory but his readers, the way they are written (if indeed he wrote them by himself) fail to impress me. Reader III transends to mere recording of his statements as if somebody recorded his voice over a dictaphone and presented in a written manner.I think, one will do a great service to Prof. KSK if he/she re-wrote these readers in a way that is more understanble to everyone, legally ofcourse by obtaining necessary permissions.I respect your view point

(reading Nakshatra Chintamani first) but that is like a "round about approach" rather than attacking the problem itself. In my opinion KP should be learned first and foremost through KP Readers for the simple reason that they are written by late Prof. KSK who gave us the theory. If they have become outdated or whatever, let us amend them and render them conducive to KP learning. I am not a legal expert but I think, like patents, copyright too has a lifespan. May be we should explore this angle and do our bit for the sake of KP.RegardsSunil

 

 

--- On Mon, 1/12/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

 

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

Re: Learning K P System

@gro ups.comMonday, January 12, 2009, 6:58 PM

 

 

 

 

Dear Sunil ji,

 

KP readers are wonderful books. I was not recommending them just because those are too detailed to comprehend by a beginner. Nakshatra Chintamani and other books I have mentioned are kind of summary, but if we have to go into the detail of KP system, there is no way other than to study KP readers. More information and more detail meaning more complexity and difficult to understand but without reading KP readers, in my opinion, KP knowledge can not complete.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

 

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Swami ji,Precisely the point I made few months ago. I have KP Readers since 1992 and every time I sit down with it I just cannot continue. Without being disrespectful to anyone, I have to say that the language used in 3rd reader is beyond my comprehension at least. In my opinion those volumes should be re-written to be readily understood by beginners.I too tend to agree with reading the books you suggested but where can I get them? I also read a suggestion just now to enrol in correspondence courses which is a welcome idea.RegardsSunil

 

 

 

 

swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com>

@gro ups.com

 

 

Monday, January 12, 2009 5:15:06 PM Re: Learning K P System

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

|| Om Gurave Namah ||Hare Ram Krishna

Dear Punit ji,

Your this opinion is excellentand I gree .I have also find this appoach best one.

However , Students will do well if they read & digest Astrosecrets,Writings of K subramanium ( Sub lord speaks)and V ramamurti( Punarphoo) before reading KP Readers.

KP readers is a must But not for Starters.

 

Application of KP rules is likly to be accurate if your suggestions are followed.

with regards

 

 

OM TATSATRCSrivastava------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Swami_ Astrologer [Teaching & Consultations]http:\\www.cosmogra ce.com http:\\www.kaalvast u.com

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --

 

 

-

Punit Pandey

 

@gro ups.com

Cc: gajender.singh@ sky.com

Monday, January 12, 2009 9:23 PM

Re: Learning K P System

 

 

 

 

Correspondence course is as good as buying KP books and reading them. There is no other benefit of the said correspondence course in my opinion. I am saying that because I myself have participated in Jyotish Visharad course from KPSARI and I would not recommend it to anybody.

 

In my opinion, the best way to learn KP is to read Nakshatra Chintamani and Further Light on Nakshatra Chintamani by Chandrakant Bhatt and asking any question in this forum. Once you have thoroughly studied both the books by Chandrakant Bhatt, then only I would suggest you to read even six readers. This is my personal approach which has changed over a period of time. Other senior KP astrologers may recommend KP 6 readers, but I think those are slightly confusing and little too detailed for the beginner.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

 

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Raakesh Sharma <divsintl > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dr Hariharan , son of our reverend Guruji Late KSK offers correspondence course as well as books.You can contact him at KRISHNAMURTI PUBLICATIONS, F21-A, FIRST FLOOR, SPENCER PLAZA, 769, ANNA SALAI, CHENNAI-600 002.E-mail : kpsari. net.inBest regardsRaakesh K Sharma --- On Mon, 1/12/09, Gajender Singh <gajender.singh@ sky.com> wrote:

 

 

Gajender Singh <gajender.singh@ sky.com>

Learning K P System

@gro ups.com

Monday, January 12, 2009, 3:15 AM

 

 

 

 

 

I would like to learn K P System .

Can I learn this on line?

Can I buy a course and learn ?

If so from where ? Please let me know.Thanks

 

 

 

 

From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India.

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Dear Pandey ji,Thanks for the information. So, there is no hope of amending KP Readers as such. May be we should then embrace your idea of Wikipedia and who knows, someday, we can publish it as a book.RegardsSunil--- On Tue, 1/13/09, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitpRe: Learning K P System Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 12:44 PM

 

 

Sunil ji,QUOTEThe Copyright Term Extension Act (CTEA) of 1998 extended copyright terms in the United States by 20 years. Since the Copyright Act of 1976, copyright would last for the life of the author plus 50 years, or 75 years for a work of corporate authorship.UNQUOTEI have first hand experience talking to KP people and my

experience is not very good. I am not optimistic about copyright talks with them. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Raichur ji,I know for a fact that patent rights expire after a time period. If I am not wrong it is 10 years. I am not a legal professional and even if copyright laws are eternal, we can obtain permission from copyright owners, amend the readers and let the profit accrue to the coyright owners. I am sure a workable agreement can be reached. Imagine the immense benefit that KP Theory and students would derive from such a possibility.RegardsSunil--- On Tue, 1/13/09, Raichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote:

Raichur-a-r <raichurar >

Re: Learning K P System@gro ups.com, "Sunil Sharma" <sunilsharma21@ >Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 7:25 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Sharma

The rediting or publishing KP,s book are not allowed by Copy Right Laws

Regarding getting books on KP please see todays posting

raichur anant mumbai phone 25062609--- On Mon, 12/1/09, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ > wrote:

 

Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ >Re: Learning K P System

@gro ups.com

Monday, 12 January, 2009, 10:51 PM

 

 

 

Dear Swami ji,Precisely the point I made few months ago. I have KP Readers since 1992 and every time I sit down with it I just cannot continue. Without being disrespectful to anyone, I have to say that the language used in 3rd reader is beyond my comprehension at least. In my opinion those volumes should be re-written to be readily understood by beginners.I too tend to agree with reading the books you suggested but where can I get them? I also read a suggestion just now to enrol in correspondence courses which is a welcome idea.RegardsSunil

 

 

 

 

swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com>@gro ups.com

 

 

Monday, January 12, 2009 5:15:06 PMRe: Learning K P System

 

 

 

 

 

 

|| Om Gurave Namah ||Hare Ram Krishna

Dear Punit ji,

Your this opinion is excellentand I gree .I have also find this appoach best one.

However , Students will do well if they read & digest Astrosecrets,Writings of K subramanium ( Sub lord speaks)and V ramamurti( Punarphoo) before reading KP Readers.

KP readers is a must But not for Starters.

 

Application of KP rules is likly to be accurate if your suggestions are followed.

with regards

 

OM TATSATRCSrivastava------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Swami_ Astrologer [Teaching & Consultations]http:\\www.cosmogra ce.com http:\\www.kaalvast u..com ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --

 

-

Punit Pandey

@gro ups.com

Cc: gajender.singh@ sky.com

Monday, January 12, 2009 9:23 PM

Re: Learning K P System

 

 

 

Correspondence course is as good as buying KP books and reading them. There is no other benefit of the said correspondence course in my opinion. I am saying that because I myself have participated in Jyotish Visharad course from KPSARI and I would not recommend it to anybody.

 

In my opinion, the best way to learn KP is to read Nakshatra Chintamani and Further Light on Nakshatra Chintamani by Chandrakant Bhatt and asking any question in this forum. Once you have thoroughly studied both the books by Chandrakant Bhatt, then only I would suggest you to read even six readers. This is my personal approach which has changed over a period of time. Other senior KP astrologers may recommend KP 6 readers, but I think those are slightly confusing and little too detailed for the beginner.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Raakesh Sharma <divsintl > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dr Hariharan , son of our reverend Guruji Late KSK offers correspondence course as well as books.You can contact him at KRISHNAMURTI PUBLICATIONS, F21-A, FIRST FLOOR, SPENCER PLAZA, 769, ANNA SALAI, CHENNAI-600 002.E-mail : kpsari. net.inBest regardsRaakesh K Sharma --- On Mon, 1/12/09, Gajender Singh <gajender.singh@ sky.com> wrote:

 

Gajender Singh <gajender.singh@ sky.com>

Learning K P System

@gro ups.comMonday, January 12, 2009, 3:15 AM

 

 

 

 

 

I would like to learn K P System .

Can I learn this on line?

Can I buy a course and learn ?

If so from where ? Please let me know.Thanks

 

 

 

 

 

Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now.

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Dear Dr. Rath,Thanks for the encouraging words.RegardsSunil--- On Tue, 1/13/09, Luther Rath <rathluther wrote:

Luther Rath <rathlutherRe: Learning K P System Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 12:39 PM

 

 

 

 

Dear Sunilji,

For God sake do not be disheartened. To learn astrology is not an easy task. But one can and can master it if he has a will to do so. Now in this age of inter-net you can learn through the group or through correspondance course and through books iven if you are at Nigeria or the poles.

Go ahead with hope and endeavor.

Dr. Luther Rath

 

 

 

Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ >@gro ups.comTuesday, January 13, 2009 4:12:23 PMRe: Learning K P System

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Pandey ji,I apologize for using the wrong anology. I was alluding to the writing skills of Shri KSK and ended up using the word "teacher" instead, entirely negating his profession itself. The slip up was inadvertant.I fully agree with what you have said in your mail but from my perspective, would like to add my experinece/s.

I have been oscillating between Vedic and KP ever since I got interested in astrology in 1992. I was fortunate to stumble upon KP even in my early days. I bought all the readers and brought them to Nigeria where I reside but could go no further for reasons already mentioned. I did not have access to any teacher till the advent of internet, which, revived my interest in astrology once again. The beauty of KP system is it does away with lots of details like yoga, combustion etc. which makes it simpler to learn and hence attractive to beginners like me. Forgive me if I say this but I do not like to go about persuing an objective in the round about way. My persistence with KP Readers stems from the fact that "Why not learn from KP Readers written by the originator of this theory, why through books written by others". Unfortunately, in the present scenario. I cannot have my way. Not until I, or someone else, decides to change it.

I would love to, but I neither have that intellectual capability nor the insight. May be some day.That is all I have to say and this is my last message on this subject, at least from my side. You may still opt to reply if you so desire as I always value your input.RegardsSunil --- On Tue, 1/13/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: Learning K P System@gro ups.comTuesday, January 13, 2009, 10:44 AM

 

 

Dear Sunil ji,I can understand your feelings. Though I am not in agreement of most of what you have said. In my opinion, Shri KSK was a great teacher. He knew that learning astrology is much more than knowing a system. Shri KSK wanted to prepare people for astrology rather than just teaching a system. His objective was much bigger. He wanted to prepare people for future research and that is the reason he wanted to share as much as he learnt during his lifetime. When he talks about fundamental principles, karakatwa of planets, houses and signs, Hindu system, western system etc., he wanted to prepare foundation for the future of astrology. He knew very well that the basic principles of KP system are not much useful if not combines with the overall astrological concepts. He also understood very well the need of further development of this system. These were not the objectives for the other books like Nakshtra Chintamani etc. For the books like

Nakshatra Chintamani, the objective was to communicate the essential points of KP system in a simple and easy to understand way...... to communicate the core ideas behind KP System. We all understand the pros and cons of guidebook and textbook based approach. In my opinion, KP readers are not the guide books but the text books. On the other hand, books like Nakshatra Chintamani are guidebook for KP System. It it clear, to the point and talks only what is essential to know. But it doesn't give us the detailed information. According to me, books like Nakshatra Chintamani helps in understanding your textbooks - the KP readers. These are supportive books, but for knowing the real KP, there is no option but to dig into the readers. In my opinion, if we will try to write the amount of important information that we have in KP readers in a new book, we will end up with something very similar to KP readers. Having said that, I understand

that there is one more difficultly with the KP readers that the original books are modified by sons of Shri KSK. The original readers of 1965 and 1971 are not available. Though, as we had a debate few months back, I understand that the most of the books are perfectly usable. I can understand that modification has added some difficulty but it is the best available to us. Even with the modifications, KP readres are the gems. If you can get 1971 edition or 1965 edition, it help in understanding the changes. One can also understand the modifications by checking archive of this forum and also checking this file section (http://groups. / group/k_p_ system Difference% 20in%20Readers/)Thanks & Regards,Punit PandeyPS: As far as I know, the copyright for books goes for 50 years. If we take that the first

set of books were written in 1965, the copyright is going to end in year 2015.

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Pandey ji,Thanks for the reply.

All along I was avoiding a direct remark about KP Readers lest I offend people in this forum through my unsolicited remarks. But let me just say what I wanted to, for a very long time. Teachng is an art and not everyone, irrespective of how learned he/she is, can be a good teacher. On the other hand, a person with ordinary inteligence can explain a point in a manner which students grasp immediately.Professor KSK propounded and was a great exponent of KP theory but his readers, the way they are written (if indeed he wrote them by himself) fail to impress me. Reader III transends to mere recording of his statements as if somebody recorded his voice over a dictaphone and presented in a written manner.I think, one will do a great service to Prof. KSK if he/she re-wrote these readers in a way that is more understanble to everyone, legally ofcourse by obtaining necessary permissions.I respect your view point

(reading Nakshatra Chintamani first) but that is like a "round about approach" rather than attacking the problem itself. In my opinion KP should be learned first and foremost through KP Readers for the simple reason that they are written by late Prof. KSK who gave us the theory. If they have become outdated or whatever, let us amend them and render them conducive to KP learning. I am not a legal expert but I think, like patents, copyright too has a lifespan. May be we should explore this angle and do our bit for the sake of KP.RegardsSunil

 

 

--- On Mon, 1/12/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

 

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

Re: Learning K P System

@gro ups.comMonday, January 12, 2009, 6:58 PM

 

 

 

 

Dear Sunil ji,

 

KP readers are wonderful books. I was not recommending them just because those are too detailed to comprehend by a beginner. Nakshatra Chintamani and other books I have mentioned are kind of summary, but if we have to go into the detail of KP system, there is no way other than to study KP readers. More information and more detail meaning more complexity and difficult to understand but without reading KP readers, in my opinion, KP knowledge can not complete.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

 

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Swami ji,Precisely the point I made few months ago. I have KP Readers since 1992 and every time I sit down with it I just cannot continue. Without being disrespectful to anyone, I have to say that the language used in 3rd reader is beyond my comprehension at least. In my opinion those volumes should be re-written to be readily understood by beginners.I too tend to agree with reading the books you suggested but where can I get them? I also read a suggestion just now to enrol in correspondence courses which is a welcome idea.RegardsSunil

 

 

 

 

swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com>

@gro ups.com

 

 

Monday, January 12, 2009 5:15:06 PM Re: Learning K P System

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

|| Om Gurave Namah ||Hare Ram Krishna

Dear Punit ji,

Your this opinion is excellentand I gree .I have also find this appoach best one.

However , Students will do well if they read & digest Astrosecrets,Writings of K subramanium ( Sub lord speaks)and V ramamurti( Punarphoo) before reading KP Readers.

KP readers is a must But not for Starters.

 

Application of KP rules is likly to be accurate if your suggestions are followed.

with regards

 

 

OM TATSATRCSrivastava------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Swami_ Astrologer [Teaching & Consultations]http:\\www.cosmogra ce.com http:\\www.kaalvast u.com

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --

 

 

-

Punit Pandey

 

@gro ups.com

Cc: gajender.singh@ sky.com

Monday, January 12, 2009 9:23 PM

Re: Learning K P System

 

 

 

 

Correspondence course is as good as buying KP books and reading them. There is no other benefit of the said correspondence course in my opinion. I am saying that because I myself have participated in Jyotish Visharad course from KPSARI and I would not recommend it to anybody.

 

In my opinion, the best way to learn KP is to read Nakshatra Chintamani and Further Light on Nakshatra Chintamani by Chandrakant Bhatt and asking any question in this forum. Once you have thoroughly studied both the books by Chandrakant Bhatt, then only I would suggest you to read even six readers. This is my personal approach which has changed over a period of time. Other senior KP astrologers may recommend KP 6 readers, but I think those are slightly confusing and little too detailed for the beginner.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

 

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Raakesh Sharma <divsintl > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dr Hariharan , son of our reverend Guruji Late KSK offers correspondence course as well as books.You can contact him at KRISHNAMURTI PUBLICATIONS, F21-A, FIRST FLOOR, SPENCER PLAZA, 769, ANNA SALAI, CHENNAI-600 002.E-mail : kpsari. net.inBest regardsRaakesh K Sharma --- On Mon, 1/12/09, Gajender Singh <gajender.singh@ sky.com> wrote:

 

 

Gajender Singh <gajender.singh@ sky.com>

Learning K P System

@gro ups.com

Monday, January 12, 2009, 3:15 AM

 

 

 

 

 

I would like to learn K P System .

Can I learn this on line?

Can I buy a course and learn ?

If so from where ? Please let me know.Thanks

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Thanks Raichurji,

I am based out of Bombay and I think I requested for any KP astrologer based out of Bombay only. Sir- can you take me as your KP student?? I know money is not everything but do not mind- please take whatever your tution fee is, I am ready to pay for 1 year course.

I will try to call you if you permit.

Thanks,

Hanu--- On Tue, 1/13/09, Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote:

Raichur-a-r <raichurarRe: Re: Learning K P System , "hanu bhatia" <hanubhatiaTuesday, January 13, 2009, 12:07 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Hanu Bhatia

In which, country/place you are residing. Without this Basic information, it may not be possible to write about any KP astrologer who can coach you

raichur anant mumbai phone 25062609--- On Tue, 13/1/09, hanu bhatia <hanubhatia > wrote:

hanu bhatia <hanubhatia >Re: Re: Learning K P System@gro ups.comTuesday, 13 January, 2009, 12:06 AM

 

 

 

 

 

I too intend to learn KP and also have requested Punitji for advising if anybody based out of Bombay can take private or personal tutions on KP. I do not mind paying any fee for this but if somebody can advise on good KP astrologer, that would be great help from this forum. I intend to learn from basics till the last straw of KP.

Can anybody help me?? Thanks Hanu--- On Mon, 1/12/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote:

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> Re: Learning K P System@gro ups..comMonday, January 12, 2009, 11:42 PM

 

 

For those lovers of Kp who do not have any KP courses in their city ofLocation, I recommend -1) Books by Chandrakant Bhatt.2) Books by Suresh Sahasne ( In Hindi and Marathi )3) Astrosecrets ( All 3 Parts )4) KP Readers( All above in that Order ),and secondly keep friendship with some KP astrologer in your area whocan guide you once in a while. After that You do not need anybody. thesebooks are enough, This forum is enough and Your experience with chartsis enough.Bhaskar.@gro ups.com, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ ...>wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar ji,> Oh really? That is an eye opener! I just wrote a reply on this forumand wanted to join the correspondence course.> As regards KP Readers, I too have the same opinion. They are verybadly

written. Wrote an email to KP Book sellers (two of them) and noreply whatsoever. I am going to ask a friend of mine in Chennai to buythose books and mail them to someone in Goa who will then send it to me.> Bought KP Astro 3.0 in July/August with great deal of enthusiasm. Tillday it is not working. Wrote to Mr. Rangarajan who profers certaincosmetic suggestions everytime but it just does not work. And to thinkof it, I was the one who was advocating this software to Mr.Sunaparantha and others on various fora, including this very one> Regards.> Sunil>>>>> ____________ _________ _________ __> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> @gro ups.com> Monday, January 12, 2009 5:09:00 PM> Re: Learning K P

System>>>> Dear Punitji,>> A beautiful unbiased reply, which is eaxctly what I advise all thosewho> come to me asking how to learn KP. I too recommend Shri Chandrakant> Bhatts books first, and then the Readers. I agree that the readers are> very much confusing.>> I do not know Sons of Kp personally in any manner directly or> indirectly. I remember of sending money for a course 15 year back to> them, and there was no response once the money was gone. Justyesterday> I had a visitor of the Interntional Astronomers forum, at my place,and> he too had a bad experience after sending money - No response. Theseare> cases from first hand and not on hearsay.>> Some wrong managment of money in hands of wrong staff members or> whatever, I dont know and neither care.>> regards>>

Bhaskar.>> @gro ups.com, "Punit Pandey" punitp@ wrote:> >> > Correspondence course is as good as buying KP books and readingthem.> There> > is no other benefit of the said correspondence course in my opinion.I> am> > saying that because I myself have participated in Jyotish Visharad> course> > from KPSARI and I would not recommend it to anybody.> >> > In my opinion, the best way to learn KP is to read Nakshatra> Chintamani and> > Further Light on Nakshatra Chintamani by Chandrakant Bhatt andasking> any> > question in this forum. Once you have thoroughly studied both the> books by> > Chandrakant Bhatt, then only I would suggest you to read even six> readers.> > This is my personal approach which has changed over a period oftime.>

Other> > senior KP astrologers may recommend KP 6 readers, but I think those> are> > slightly confusing and little too detailed for the beginner.> >> > Thanks & Regards,> >> > Punit Pandey> >> >> > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Raakesh Sharma divsintl@ wrote:> >> > > Dr Hariharan , son of our reverend Guruji Late KSK offers> > > correspondence course as well as books.> > >> > > You can contact him at> > >> > > KRISHNAMURTI PUBLICATIONS, F21-A, FIRST FLOOR, SPENCER PLAZA, 769,> ANNA> > > SALAI, CHENNAI-600 002.> > > E-mail : kpsari@ net.in> > >> > >> > > Best regards> > >> > > Raakesh K Sharma> > >> > > --- On *Mon, 1/12/09, Gajender Singh

gajender.singh@ ...* wrote:> > >> > > Gajender Singh gajender.singh@ ...> > > Learning K P System> > > @gro ups.com> > > Monday, January 12, 2009, 3:15 AM> > >> > >> > > I would like to learn K P System .> > > Can I learn this on line?> > > Can I buy a course and learn ?> > > If so from where ? Please let me know.Thanks> > >> > >> > >> > >> >>

 

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Dear Sagar ji,

 

1. As we've discussed before, you can use the ayanamsa which gives you

better results and it is not a big deal in KP which does not use

sub-sub lord.

 

2. Regarding the cuspal interlinks, one through sub, another through

sub-sub, you may need to use the KP Stright Line Ayanamsa as they are

applying.

 

Regards,

 

Tin Win

 

 

, Sagar S <ssagar86 wrote:

>

> Dear Friends

>  

> In Vedic astrology we have to study at least 6 charts Rashi , Hora,

Drekkana, navamsha, dasamsa and dwaqdasamsha, where as in KP cusple

sub lord as well as planets sub lords will give the clues and

dasa,bhukti , antara and sookshma will give the date of events.

>  

> Before 1986 i was praciting vedic astrology with planeets in the

constallation as meema stellar astrology , in 1986 i got KP books and

found developed work with sub lord system of prediction. Before and

after 1986 i got succeed in so many predictions but since 1995

december night 21-35 hrs i lost sound knowledge in the same.

>  

> Astrological field I entered as my 10th cusp sub lord Jupiter is

lord of 2nd and 11th in the 5th in his own star . From September 1996

Vastu-poster therapy and from February 28th, 1997 onwards i switched

on to Vastu-Mirrorology-poster therapy.

>  

> Quiz will help a lot to lerners i feel and SP khullars as well as

K.Bhaskaran's cusple interlinks too will help a lot in kp.

>  

> Now , i am in little confussion about Ayanamsha as I got succeeded

in so many cases by using KP original ayanamsha, but now KPNA has been

in practice by many KP followers.

>  

> Due to Ayanamsha differences sub sub lords will not be same hence

it has become tough for me.

>  

> Regards

> Sahhasra Saagara   

>

> --- On Mon, 12/1/09, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:

>

> Punit Pandey <punitp

> Re: Learning K P System

>

> Monday, 12 January, 2009, 11:28 PM

>

Dear Sunil ji,

>  

> KP readers are wonderful books. I was not recommending them just

because those are too detailed to comprehend by a beginner. Nakshatra

Chintamani and other books I have mentioned are kind of summary, but

if we have to go into the detail of KP system, there is no way other

than to study KP readers. More information and more detail meaning

more complexity and difficult to understand but without reading KP

readers, in my opinion, KP knowledge can not complete.  

>

> Thanks & Regards,

>

> Punit Pandey

>

>

>

> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@

> wrote:

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>

Dear Swami ji,

> Precisely the point I made few months ago. I have KP Readers since

1992 and every time I sit down with it I just cannot continue. Without

being disrespectful to anyone, I have to say that the language used in

3rd reader is beyond my comprehension at least. In my opinion those

volumes should be re-written to be readily understood by beginners.

> I too tend to agree with reading the books you suggested but where

can I get them?

> I also read a suggestion just now to enrol in correspondence courses

which is a welcome idea.

> Regards

> Sunil

>

>

>

>

>

> swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com>

>

> @gro ups.com

> Monday, January 12, 2009 5:15:06 PM

>

> Re: Learning K P System

>

>

>

>

>  

>

>          || Om Gurave Namah ||

> Hare Ram Krishna

> Dear Punit ji,

> Your this opinion is excellentand I gree .I have also find this

appoach best one.

> However , Students will do well if they read & digest

 Astrosecrets,Writings of K subramanium ( Sub lord speaks)and V

ramamurti( Punarphoo) before reading KP Readers.

> KP readers is a must But not for Starters.

>  

> Application of KP rules  is likly to be accurate if your

suggestions are followed.

> with regards

>  

>

>

>  OM TATSAT

> RCSrivastava

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> http:\\www.cosmogra ce.com    http:\\www.kaalvast u.com

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> " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being

who has

> created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "

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> -

> Punit Pandey

>

> @gro ups.com

> Cc: gajender.singh@ sky.com

> Monday, January 12, 2009 9:23 PM

> Re: Learning K P System

>

>

>

>

>

> Correspondence course is as good as buying KP books and reading

them. There is no other benefit of the said correspondence course in

my opinion. I am saying that because I myself have participated in

Jyotish Visharad course from KPSARI and I would not recommend it to

anybody.

>  

> In my opinion, the best way to learn KP is to read Nakshatra

Chintamani and Further Light on Nakshatra Chintamani by Chandrakant

Bhatt and asking any question in this forum. Once you have thoroughly

studied both the books by Chandrakant Bhatt, then only I would suggest

you to read even six readers. This is my personal approach which has

changed over a period of time. Other senior KP astrologers may

recommend KP 6 readers, but I think those are slightly confusing and

little too detailed for the beginner.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

>

> Punit Pandey

>

>

>

>

> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Raakesh Sharma <divsintl (AT) (DOT)

com> wrote:

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>

>

>

>

Dr Hariharan , son of our reverend Guruji Late KSK offers

correspondence course as well as books.

>

> You can contact him at

>

>

> KRISHNAMURTI PUBLICATIONS, F21-A, FIRST FLOOR, SPENCER PLAZA, 769,

ANNA SALAI, CHENNAI-600 002.

> E-mail : kpsari net.in

>

>

> Best regards

>

> Raakesh K Sharma

>

>

> --- On Mon, 1/12/09, Gajender Singh <gajender.singh@ sky.com> wrote:

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>

>

> Gajender Singh <gajender.singh@ sky.com>

>

> Learning K P System

>

> @gro ups.com

>

> Monday, January 12, 2009, 3:15 AM

>

 

> I would like to learn K P System .

> Can I learn this on line?

> Can I buy a course and learn ? 

> If so from where ? Please let me know.Thanks

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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